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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: K Frame on October 10, 2014, 10:00:23 AM
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Over the past couple of weeks the price of crude oil has been slipping quite a bit, as have gasoline futures.
Oil's down nearly $20 a barrel, and gasoline futures are down nearly 35 cents. (Home heating oil is also dropping, but not nearly as much).
Slowly we're seeing prices move lower at the pump.
At the station nearest me, a Citgo, the price for regular is $3.15 a gallon, which is about as low as I've seen it in my area.
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Noticed this morning here in Tulsa that gas is getting close to $2.80 a gallon for regular and then premium (91 octane) that I use in my bike is at $3.10. I would guess there might be a few places in the area where it is nearing $2.75 for regular.
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It's down around 2.90 here, with some places as low as 2.80.
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Ames, IA
I run premium in my supercharged pickup truck, so I paid $3.64 for 91 octane last night.
87 E-10 is $3.06 and 87 non E is $3.26
Des Moines, IA (35 miles south) I went there for work in afternoon yesterday.
87 E-10 $2.99
87 no E $3.19
91 $3.29
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Here 25 miles north of Seattle, I filled the motorcycle up at Costco yesterday for $ 3.24/gallon of regular. Which is down five cents per gallon from when I filled up the Ford at Costco last week.
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$2.88 (down from $2.91 overnight) at the RaceWay (independent, cheapest available) down the street from me, and matched by the Shell and BP stations nearby. Down the road about 5 miles it's $2.81.
The talking heads are predicting even lower prices "as we get into the winter months when people are driving less." You'd think refineries and the rest of the system would know to cut back production in anticipation and keep the supply/demand ratio about stable.
stay safe.
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Closest to the house is $3.09.9/gal for 87 octane this AM. Very handy for many folk, so that can charge a bit more.
Can get as low as $2.90/gal or so at Sams/Costco for 87 octane.
FTR: Newer automobiles will advance/retard ignition to accommodate whatever octane gasoline is poured into them. The admonition to use Premium is how the manuf games CAFE and EPA rules. Likely you will not notice hte slight dip in top end performance if you use 87 octane vs more expensive 93 octane.
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FTR: Newer automobiles will advance/retard ignition to accommodate whatever octane gasoline is poured into them. The admonition to use Premium is how the manuf games CAFE and EPA rules. Likely you will not notice hte slight dip in top end performance if you use 87 octane vs more expensive 93 octane.
I wish I could in my pickup, lowest I can go without pinging is 89 octane, which some oil supplier where I live deemed too expensive to offer about a year ago, so that disappeared from all the pumps in Iowa.
I'm never going to have a supercharged/turbocharged gasoline engine daily driver ever again, well unless I get a Ford with an ecoboost.
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2.95 here
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2.89 in SC.
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I sort of feel old doing the "$3 for gas and we're happy about it!!!11!!", since I can remember when a gallon of gas was under a dollar and milk was under $2.
It's just kind of feeling old though, since it was only 15 years ago.
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$4.12 for regular, $3.99 for diesel.
While the entire rest of the country sees lower prices, starting in JAN2015, CA is going to add a "carbon tax" (signed into law by the great conservative Schwarzenegger) that is going to drastically increase the per gallon price to the highest in the country. Apparently the law allows for a range for the increase.
No news source seems to give the same figure (partly because of the poorly written law, or maybe they did it on purpose), but the aggregate range is anywhere from $0.16 - $1.30 per gallon. This would be on top of the $0.68/gal tax we already pay. The smart money seems to be betting that they'll start at around $0.20-$0.30/gal, then play the "frog in the pot" game and slowly raise the tax to their maximum over a few years.
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I remember when gasoline was 56 cents a gallon, but that was when I was a kid.
When I started paying for gasoline, I think 87 was in the 80 cents a gallon range and hi test was about a buck.
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I sort of feel old doing the "$3 for gas and we're happy about it!!!11!!", since I can remember when a gallon of gas was under a dollar and milk was under $2.
It's just kind of feeling old though, since it was only 15 years ago.
Hell, I can remember filling up my '65 Impala for about $5 :facepalm:
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I remember when gasoline was 56 cents a gallon, but that was when I was a kid.
When I started paying for gasoline, I think 87 was in the 80 cents a gallon range and hi test was about a buck.
It was around 50 cents just when I started driving in 1976. It had just shot up from hovering around 25 cents for many years. This was right after "gas rationing" where you got gas on certain days based on your license plate being odd or even. Shortly after I started driving it jumped up to around 75 cents.
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S.E. Az @ $3.25 for regular. Tucson, regular @ $3.15 which is the standard difference. When I started filling my own car, reg was $.15 a gallon.
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I wish I could in my pickup, lowest I can go without pinging is 89 octane, which some oil supplier where I live deemed too expensive to offer about a year ago, so that disappeared from all the pumps in Iowa.
I'm never going to have a supercharged/turbocharged gasoline engine daily driver ever again, well unless I get a Ford with an ecoboost.
OK, turbo/super-charged is the exception, I'd guess. Only so much the bitty computer can do, I suppose.
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Charby,
I talked with my friend in Cedar Rapids metro last week and he said that regular is now under $3 a gallon there.
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Portsmouth, NH
$3.25 for 85 E-10. Can't find ethanol-free around here. 87 octane is about $3.34
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$3.27 at COSTCO here in the Chicago burbs
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$3.19 this morning in NW Illinois. Filled up yesterday across the river with Iowa gas $290.9 at Sam's Club
I still need to fill the little sport coupe with hi octane before I put it away for winter. should be almost $1 per gal less than last year.
With the mid term elections coming up, are we sposed to thank our liar in chief and his minions for the relief?
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FTR: Newer automobiles will advance/retard ignition to accommodate whatever octane gasoline is poured into them. The admonition to use Premium is how the manuf games CAFE and EPA rules. Likely you will not notice hte slight dip in top end performance if you use 87 octane vs more expensive 93 octane.
My '13 Focus is like that. The manual says it will work on 87, but higher octane is better. Folks on the Focus forums have noticed better dyno numbers with premium fuel. My "seat-of-the-pants" dyno indicates slightly better performance with premium as well. Not a huge difference, but a bit more solid off the line (tis a 5spd). I pay about $3.59 for Premium around here. With a 12gal fill from "running on fumes" level, it's still not an expensive gas bill compared to my old 4Runner on 87octane.
Chris
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I remember putting gas in my bike at $0.55. It was in the .70- .80 range when I graduated high school.
In '98 for a while it was back under $1.00 but it didn't last long.
I filled my company van last night at $2.89 but the closer to Tulsa you get the lower it goes.
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2.88
2.85 at Sam's Club
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I saw $2.88 at a couple of stations. I put regular in the beater Saturn and the lawnmower, but the Mustang takes premium.
I guess Obama's drilling policy is working.
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$3.19 this morning in NW Illinois. Filled up yesterday across the river with Iowa gas $290.9 at Sam's Club
I still need to fill the little sport coupe with hi octane before I put it away for winter. should be almost $1 per gal less than last year.
With the mid term elections coming up, are we sposed to thank our liar in chief and his minions for the relief?
Damn don't even think JP fuel is that high. >:D
Find it interesting that out in Cali diesel is lower than gas but here in the middle part of the country it runs more than gas.
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$3.09 Monday when I filled up. MPG seems to be down around 36 again, so I guess it's time to clean the plugs and intake, and do another pistons soak to get it back up to 38.6.
I certainly didn't expect this back in the days when I could fill up my 1983 Fairmont from dead empty, get a 44oz soda and a pack of Camels, and still get change from a $20. Took a bit longer to earn that tank of gas, but then I was also a high school student working part time entry level minimum wage jobs too.
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"In '98 for a while it was back under $1.00 but it didn't last long."
I remember that. Late summer early fall, IIRC.
87 octane dropped back to about 85 cents a gallon for maybe a week or two, then started a long progressive climb.
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Find it interesting that out in Cali diesel is lower than gas but here in the middle part of the country it runs more than gas.
I can't figure our diesel prices out. There's a seasonal component of course, but it also fluctuates within that. A couple of weeks ago it was higher than regular, and a couple of weeks before that it was lower. There are also county level aspects regarding taxes. The next county over always has higher diesel than mine, even when their gas is lower, and mine is the one that hates petroleum. I'm pretty sure that's because of their local tax on diesel.
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At the "local" station the premium is ethanol free.
I bought five gallons a while back (Aug/Sep ?) for the chain saw - it was well over $4 dollars/gallon at that time =(
I read somewhere online somebody put premium in their Suburban and got 28mpg :O ??? =|
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$2.9X around these parts.
One bastard gas station in Troy had theirs at $3.50. lol.
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$2.9X around these parts.
One bastard gas station in Troy had theirs at $3.50. lol.
Ran across that in Benbrook last week; Racetrac was $3.45, when all the other stations were under $3.10.
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Racetrac was $3.45, when all the other stations were under $3.10.
Around here Racetrac is almost always the cheapest gas in the region. Even when it isn't, it's very close.
Chris
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Around here Racetrac is almost always the cheapest gas in the region. Even when it isn't, it's very close.
Surprised the heck out of me too; I'd already pulled in because they're usually cheaper than everybody except QT, but even the Mobil across the street was $3.09.
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I always fill up in VA when I drive through because they are cheaper. I have been paying <3 for the last couple months. Locally in NC we are at 3.15ish.
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In '98 for a while it was back under $1.00 but it didn't last long.
That was one benefit to be driving through Indiana to get to college. I saw under $1.00 gasoline for most of my college years. (Late 90s.)
Incidentally, I forgot to mention, we are at $2.85 for 87 octane here. (Kroger, pre-discount)
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Bunch of whippersnappers! Gas wars! Used to be there was a gas station on every corner of major intersections and not only did someone in a snappy uniform - which included a clip-on bowtie and some sort of bus driver hat - pump gas into your tank, they checked your oil, topped up the water in your radiator (we didn't have no stinkin' antifreeze back then), and handed you either a box of laundry detergent that had either or a drinking glass or a dish towel inside right after they blew air into your tires.
Gas was $0.27.9/gal before the war was declared. It could go down as low as whatever the federal excise tax was. Cars would line up around the block and some junior hose jockey in that snappy uniform would be passing out cold sodas (the 5-ounce size) or maybe even ice cream on a stick. Eventually 3 stations would fall but prices did not go up much above the starting price, if they went up at all.
stay safe.
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Bunch of whippersnappers! Gas wars! Used to be there was a gas station on every corner of major intersections and not only did someone in a snappy uniform - which included a clip-on bowtie and some sort of bus driver hat - pump gas into your tank, they checked your oil, topped up the water in your radiator (we didn't have no stinkin' antifreeze back then), and handed you either a box of laundry detergent that had either or a drinking glass or a dish towel inside right after they blew air into your tires.
Gas was $0.27.9/gal before the war was declared. It could go down as low as whatever the federal excise tax was. Cars would line up around the block and some junior hose jockey in that snappy uniform would be passing out cold sodas (the 5-ounce size) or maybe even ice cream on a stick. Eventually 3 stations would fall but prices did not go up much above the starting price, if they went up at all.
stay safe.
yea but what the average annual salary then?
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yea but what the average annual salary then?
min wage was about $1.25/hr IIRC
So - 3 to 4 gallons of gas at least, vs what - 2 gallons today =|
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yea but what the average annual salary then?
Forget the average annual salary unless you are converting way-back-then dollars to today dollars and adjust the cost of living figures as well. In 1953 it was possible to rent a room for $5/week and for another $5/week you could get (admittedly rather meager) breakfast and dinner. OTOH there were far fewer luxury items that the average working stiff could afford.
The real fun of nostalgia is the selective memory - only to good things get mentioned, while the rest of the stuff that made life back then the same rat-race hellhole as today is ignored.
stay safe.
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2.79, now.
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I remember buying gas for 17 cents a gallon when I was sixteen. At that time I worked as a dishwasher making 95 cents an hour. So, I could buy 5.58 gallons for an hour of work. Maybe this is where the minimum wage movement gets the idea of $15 an hour. If so, they're wrong, as gas prices aren't a good measure of inflation.
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Haven't driven in 2 months bit the last station I saw it was 2.99 for 85 octane here.
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Do a lot of you guys have 85 octane? The only place I've ever seen it is in Idaho.
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87 octane is the lowest I have ever seen in Ohio.
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Do a lot of you guys have 85 octane? The only place I've ever seen it is in Idaho.
I've seen it in Colorado, Montana and Wyoming also.
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$3.09 at the Wilco-Hess here in Hickory, NC. Filled up yesterday.
I expect we'll dip just under $3/gal and then it will head back up.
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I drove past two sets of stations last nigth, where it was 2.99 one place, and 2.79 just a 1/4 mile down the road; or 2.93 and 2.73 at the other place (may have been with a car wash, though).
Weird.
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Gas is suddenly cheaper?
Ahh, there must be an election coming up soon. I expect it to bounce back by 2015.
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7,44 Dollars for a gallon of .95 octane gas in the south of France =(
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7,44 Dollars for a gallon of .95 octane gas in the south of France =(
Doesn't seem like pries have gone up much there. I remember being in France in 99 and gas was about $5/gal while at home it was probably in the mid $1 range. Worst I've ever paid was in Norway, Think it worked out to around $6,50/gal. Of course the obligatory hot dog and coke to go with the fill-up set me back another $8-9.
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Saw a story the other day that oil would likely not drop much further. A barrel of oil was up by $1.15 at close of trading yesterday. It's up by $1.17 in current trading. That is a fairly significant move. Methinks the bottom has been reached.
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Forget the average annual salary unless you are converting way-back-then dollars to today dollars and adjust the cost of living figures as well. In 1953 it was possible to rent a room for $5/week and for another $5/week you could get (admittedly rather meager) breakfast and dinner. OTOH there were far fewer luxury items that the average working stiff could afford.
The real fun of nostalgia is the selective memory - only to good things get mentioned, while the rest of the stuff that made life back then the same rat-race hellhole as today is ignored.
stay safe.
The Draft =(
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$2.88 (down from $2.91 overnight) at the RaceWay (independent, cheapest available) down the street from me, and matched by the Shell and BP stations nearby. Down the road about 5 miles it's $2.81.
The talking heads are predicting even lower prices "as we get into the winter months when people are driving less." You'd think refineries and the rest of the system would know to cut back production in anticipation and keep the supply/demand ratio about stable.
stay safe.
Haven't read the rest of the thread, but I rather suspect it's more like there's an election in a month. .gov arm twists to get gas prices down so the proles think all is good (or at least getting better) and they're less angry and vote for the incumbent instead of the new guy.
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I guess this would be a good time to go fill up the Suburban ... might get it under $100 =|
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Within the past few days, I've seen "name brand" gas (Shell, Exxon) around the Austin area as low as the $2.959 - $2.999 range, though some stations are still up around $3.199.
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, ALL the local gas has been diluted with ethanol.
Worse, I think the EPA is meddling with mandated "seasonal blends" since MPG of both of my cars is down over past years. (Neighbor had noticed the same thing with his cars.)
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Haven't read the rest of the thread, but I rather suspect it's more like there's an election in a month. .gov arm twists to get gas prices down so the proles think all is good (or at least getting better) and they're less angry and vote for the incumbent instead of the new guy.
Yeah... no.
A lot of people think this, but it has nothing to do with reality.
Crude oil and gasoline are internationally traded commodities, with prices affected primarily by supply and demand levels both in the United States and internationally.
How little the government can affect the price of those commodities can be seen in the relative recent oil releases from the strategic petroleum reserves. The effect on prices was extremely limited and very short lived.
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$2.89 at Costco. $2.95 to $2.99 everyplace else. OTOH, my gas mileage just went to hell, so it's that winter mix that has a lot of butane in it (not many BTU's) and it's cheaper to produce.
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I've seen anything from $3.29 to $3.55 around here. Although it's only $3.07 at the Pilot (where I also get another $.03 off) in Gary, IN. However, the next time I'll be through there is 23 Oct. I'm down to a little more then 1/2 a tank, so I'm going to have to buckle down and buy gas in Illinois. I guess I could fill up from the gas cans in the garage. I probably will as it's time to rotate the gas.
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Regular dropped to $3.95 today. Diesel is still $3.99.
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$3.05 for 87 octane here in east bum f#ck Michigan.
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3.41 for regular in Eastern WA. +10 cents each grade up from regular. Probably 15-20 cents cheaper a gallon 45 minutes east of here in Idaho, that is normal.
bob
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2.919 here in W. Michigan.
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I saw it at 2.69 at one Quiktrip, maybe 20 or 30 miles south of St. Louis. I think one sign read 2.67, near Eureka, but it was hard to tell.
At a couple of places, it was 2.68, for cash customers.
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Regular dropped to $3.95 today. Diesel is still $3.99.
$3.95?
Where are you? California?
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$3.95?
Where are you? California?
Heh. Yup. See my first post in the thread for all the fun.
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3.05 of regular gas and 3.30 for diesel. That at a Hess station in NJ.
Gypsies gas is a little less.
I should be able to fill the truck for under a 100 bucks soon.
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Just saw 2.67.
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Paid 2.93 today in Cedar Falls, IA for 87 E-10.
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2.67... balls!
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2.67... balls!
I thought balls generally were in whole-numbers.
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Just paid $2.89 at the Bucees near San Marcos
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$2.77 for regular and $3.03 for premium here in Tulsa at most QT's.
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It's not the .gov (well, it is. But in a round about way). The economy is contracting (or in Obamaspeak, "Not growing fast enough"), and not just here, but worldwide. Therefore, less overall demand and all the refineries are at +95% percent operations.
But contracting here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/more-businesses-are-closing-than-starting-can-congress-help-turn-that-around/2014/09/17/06576cb8-385a-11e4-8601-97ba88884ffd_story.html
Money Quote:
Consequently, for the first time in 30 years*, business deaths now outnumber business births,
Since small businesses produce 90+% of all new jobs and they are no growing, hence unemployment continues to grow/remain stagnant. No matter what bullcaca numbers flow from Washington.
*- While the Washingate Pest says "30 years" That would put it in the middle of the Reagan years. However, the actual (Brookings Institute !!) study points to 1978-1979 (not 1984) as the last time more closed then opened. The Carter years. Yep, the "Reagan Hatred" knows no bounds.
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$3.09 this morning in Savannah.
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$3.29 up here.
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Just topped off at 2.64.
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http://www.stlouisgasprices.com/
I don't know how this website looks on your browser, but I'm seeing one gas station in the city of St. Louis selling for
$2.59.
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Paid 3.11 this morning. Gas prices are continuing to slip on the commodities market.
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Saw $2.75 this morning for regular and $3.01 for premium.
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Saw $2.75 this morning for regular and $3.01 for premium.
I figured Okie would be cheaper since they make the stuff there.
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I figured Okie would be cheaper since they make the stuff there.
Well there are a couple of refineries here in Tulsa but not sure what their output is.
As for oil production there seems to be more natural gas than oil production. Plus as I think most here know but not a lot of people do is that most of the oil pulled from the ground here in the states isn't even refined here it is exported. We import most of our oil in from South America such as Venezuela.
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I figured Okie would be cheaper since they make the stuff there.
Not necessarily an indicator of interstate or intrastate oil prices:
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/07/28/the-10-most-oil-rich-states/
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Saw gas for $2.99 a gallon at a station very near my house. First I've seen it below $3.
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Filled the wife's car at $2.59.
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Well there are a couple of refineries here in Tulsa but not sure what their output is.
As for oil production there seems to be more natural gas than oil production. Plus as I think most here know but not a lot of people do is that most of the oil pulled from the ground here in the states isn't even refined here it is exported. We import most of our oil in from South America such as Venezuela.
Isn't there a ban on exporting domestic crude from the 1970's energy crisis? I think I remember recently a little bit of domestic crude was allowed to be exported.
here it is.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-ruling-would-allow-first-shipments-of-unrefined-oil-overseas-1403644494
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Just filled up at $2.84 today
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I saw $3.49 in interior CA today.
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$3.19 this morning in NW Illinois. Filled up yesterday across the river with Iowa gas $290.9 at Sam's Club
I still need to fill the little sport coupe with hi octane before I put it away for winter. should be almost $1 per gal less than last year.
With the mid term elections coming up, are we sposed to thank our liar in chief and his minions for the relief?
$3.15/gal in Rockford, IL Monday.
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$2.99 down the street at the Racetrac.
Oil has been volatile lately. Up a couple of bucks a few days ago, then down to $80 this morning, now back up to over $83 this evening. Still thinking it's bouncing along the bottom, getting ready to head back up.
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Falling still. Here's the latest national map (I think the link should update to whenever you click on it, but check the date/time):
http://www.californiagasprices.com/Price_By_County.aspx
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We're in the $2.9x range here in Manassas.
Chris
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$2.99 down the street at the Racetrac.
Oil has been volatile lately. Up a couple of bucks a few days ago, then down to $80 this morning, now back up to over $83 this evening. Still thinking it's bouncing along the bottom, getting ready to head back up.
I think it going to hover where it is for a while. WTI and Brent are within $2 of each other as of 6:27am CDT, 10-17-14 and Saudi have taken the big box store method of oil, high volume/low prices.
We got an Ebola scare, ISIS running wild and other nastiness around the world, yet oil isn't spiking.
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I saw $2.77 for 87 octane the other day. I didn't look today, but the gas station I normally go to was around $2.80 last I saw.
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$ 3.09 at the south Everett Costco just now. This is down 15 cents per gallon from eight days ago at the same Costco.
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$2.94 for 87 E-10 in Ames, IA at 6:50 AM.
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The downward pressure on oil seems to have stalled. Yesterday oil and gas were both sharply up, today not as bad, but still up.
If prices stay in the $81 a barrel range for awhile, it will take a couple of weeks for gas prices to level off, but they should stay under $3 a gallon for at least while.
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Filled up for 2.55 tonight.
It's been a while since my tank's been under 3/4. Every time the price slips a bit lower, I go ahead and buy some, just for the braggin' rights.
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Your gas prices are falling a lot faster than they are here.
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Saw $3.08 this morning in BOS.
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$4.50 at the dock. Port of Marquette, ia.
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Hovering right about $3.00/gallon in the Salt Lake valley.
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in the $2.70s here.
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Saw $2.85 at a Citgo in Rutherford College, NC this evening. That's about 12 cents/gallon less than the rest of the stations in the area. Not that I would buy from Citgo.
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Down to 2.65 at the cheaper stations here
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Topped off the gas gauge backup (2 gallon can I carry in the trunk for when I miss my guess on the wonky gas gauge) for $2.91.
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My son, who's left this area recently to find work in Odessa/ Midland, mentioned tonight that due the $80-ish a barrel prices a few wells have already shut down.
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$4.50 at the dock. Port of Marquette, ia.
Ouch.
Gotta call my marina and see what it is. Might get a full up if it's dropped enough.
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$2.82 yesterday, in Birmingham AL
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Jumped up overnight $2.79 for regular and then I just paid $3.05 for premium for the bike.
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Ouch.
Gotta call my marina and see what it is. Might get a full up if it's dropped enough.
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Near the end of the season, popular port, about all the reasons why it is high there.
A couple friends got back from Canada and they said fuel was close to $9 a gallon at the marina they fished out of.
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Prices are rising here again, back up to $2.99.
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Near the end of the season, popular port, about all the reasons why it is high there.
A couple friends got back from Canada and they said fuel was close to $9 a gallon at the marina they fished out of.
Most I paid at the dock this year was 4.10.
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Not sure the other cheaper side of town, but all the stations right around me are now in the upper 60's.
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Checking online, the Pilot in Gary, IN where I will be topping off on Thursday enroute to Indy, is a $2.92, but with my card will be $2.87.
Meanwhile it's anything from $3.18 to $3.49 around here where I live.
I really hate Illinois.
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Checking online, the Pilot in Gary, IN where I will be topping off on Thursday enroute to Indy, is a $2.92, but with my card will be $2.87.
Meanwhile it's anything from $3.18 to $3.49 around here where I live.
I really hate Illinois.
Could be worse, you could be in California. :)
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Could be worse, you could be in California. :)
Scout is only paying slightly less than California prices, where 87 octane is $3.30 to $3.50.
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Scout is only not paying slightly less than California prices, where 87 octane is $3.30 to $3.50.
I rarely buy gas in Illinois. If I top off in Gary before crossing back into Illinois, I will generally still have 1/4-1/2 a tank left when I cross the border again on my next trip to my parents.
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Road my bike to work today, passed by a station 3.0000 for 87 E-10. Never seen fuel ever on a whole dollar price before.
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The prices are still trending down in some places just outside the metro area, but only slightly. I still scored 2.55 gas today, though. =)
So are the gas prices going to keep going up, or is it just a slight uptick, before they dip down again?
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Hard to say.
There's speculation that the worst of the fall in oil prices is done. For the last few days crude prices have held stead in the $81-82 a barrel range; same with gasoline futures.
Some analysts say that we're going to mill at this level for awhile, others are saying they expect the price to drop down to the $75 range. All of that is speculative based on what they expect OEPC to do at their meeting in a few weeks (cut production). If they don't come to a production agreement, though, prices could continue to drop.
Also...
The weekly stockpile report came back showing an unexpected build up in crude reserves and a lower than expected drawdown in refined gasoline stockpiles, so prices are trending lower this morning.
I paid $2.95 a gallon this morning, and I've seen it as low as $2.91.
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$2.83 at the somewhat seedy Cefco station on my way to work.
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$2.59 last night in CenTex
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Gold is tanking also, some "experts" are speculating $700 for a bottom.
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Never thought I'd see it again, but I filled up for $2.89 at a CA Costco yesterday. Diesel is still hovering near four bucks.
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Down around 2.77 or so in the Tulsa area. Saw in the OKC area some places as low as 2.49.
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$ 2.79 at the local Costco three days ago.
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Trying to decide if I should top off today for roughly 300 miles this weekend, or wait and see if it drops another $.08-.10 since we're usually a few days behind and a few cents above the price trend for the metroplex.
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Never thought I'd see it again, but I filled up for $2.89 at a CA Costco yesterday. Diesel is still hovering near four bucks.
$2.84 is the last price I paid on Friday in Marshalltown, IA.
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The stations around me right now are in the $2.79 - 2.85 range.
I was out in Mtnbkr's neck of the woods last week and saw $2.67.
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Just paid $2.74/gallon in N. Alabama here.
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2.509 last night at Sheetz for the standard ethanol crap. Next few weeks I am going to get my truck on the road and appropriate a few 55 gal drums from my dad. If I can find no ethanol for close to $2.50 then two drums with sta-bil are going into the barn.
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$3,09 around here. We are headed to Peoria this weekend for Pheasant hunting, so I will have to buy gas in Illinois, However, it is$2.71 at the Pilot on Bloomington, which makes it $2.66 after my $.05/gal discount.
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2.509 last night at Sheetz for the standard ethanol crap. Next few weeks I am going to get my truck on the road and appropriate a few 55 gal drums from my dad. If I can find no ethanol for close to $2.50 then two drums with sta-bil are going into the barn.
One of the news stations here in Tulsa did a story on stations claiming 100% gas. A couple of them were actually at about 10% ethanol. Of course when asked who was at fault everyone was pointing fingers at everyone else. As it is you really don't know what crap is going into your tank unless you "brew" it yourself.
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Saw $2.69 at a station near the interstate.
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Trying to decide if I should top off today for roughly 300 miles this weekend, or wait and see if it drops another $.08-.10 since we're usually a few days behind and a few cents above the price trend for the metroplex.
On a 15gal tank, that .10 is a whopping $1.50.
Chris
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Paid 2.47 a few days ago but it's gone up a hair since then. Probably had water in it
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One of the news stations here in Tulsa did a story on stations claiming 100% gas. A couple of them were actually at about 10% ethanol. Of course when asked who was at fault everyone was pointing fingers at everyone else. As it is you really don't know what crap is going into your tank unless you "brew" it yourself.
It's easy to test for.
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Paid $2.75 Sunday at the Raceway up the road.
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It's easy to test for.
See if it tastes like Old Smuggler?
No...never mind; that's how to check if your diesel has gone bad.
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$2.95(.9) here in southwest Michigan.
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Today it was $2.53. Last week it had been $2.58, for the better part of a week, then overnight it went to $2.68. A couple days later it started dropping again, to today's low.
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I paid $3.049 for 93 octane today to fill up the Mustang.
Regular is $2.45 down in Montgomery, but I don't want to drive 170 miles to get gas.
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Gas is headed back up fast. Up 12 cents in two days this week. Oil is up almost $10 a barrel over the last two weeks due to US rigs being taken out of production. Most curious because oil production is still rising in the US, and so are oil and distillate stocks.
The oil price rise does not appear to be a dead cat bounce, though. Back to $3-something a gallon by June?
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Labor dispute
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/08/steelworkers-union-expands-strike/23080273/
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$1.999 last night. Going to take the other cans in and refill the stash soon.
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The labor dispute is part of it, but from what I've read only a small part. It's apparently the large number of rigs being taken out of production in the US. Even the Permian Basin fields that don't rely on as much fracking are seeing a significant drop in rig count.
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Labor dispute
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/08/steelworkers-union-expands-strike/23080273/
Hahahaha, they are bitching about the high out-of-pocket and health insurance costs.
YOU VOTED FOR THE *expletive deleted*er, AND NOW YOU ARE GETTING IT GOOD AND HARD. SUCKS TO BE YOU.
Anyway, fire them and hire the replacements. Given the economy (and the location of Whiting near Chicago), I bet there's a Revload of folks that would love to have those jobs.
But yeah, production is dropping as prices drop. HELLO Supply and Demand !! I figure it will settle at around $2.50/gal. Maybe a bit lower. It's $219-$2.39 around here. I filled up for $2.19/gal on Saturday. Still pretty cheap compared to what Obama and Chu wanted back in 2008-09. ($9-$10+ per gallon)
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Saw it at $1.999 this morning here in Tulsa.
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shot up 11 cents per gallon here in the past day. $2.14 a gallon now the cheapest in town. North Florida.
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It's going to be popping again, unfortunately. The price of oil is pushing higher.
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This morning when I got to work it was $1.91, two hours later it was $2.09.
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Over the past week, the local Costco has gone up to $ 2.15, an increase of 16 cents.
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$1.99 in Wellman, IA
$2.05 in Des Moines, IA
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And the morons down here are calling to "raise the gas tax to improve the roads" aka- giving the money to the state DOT who will squander it just like they do with the money they get now...
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$1.84 earlier today
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There's a tremendous range of prices here, from one station to another. Like a 50 cents per gallon spread. Fortunately, the station with the lowest prices within 25 miles of me happens to be right on my way home. Last Wednesday the price bottomed out at $2.11. Friday it was up to $2.13. I'm sure tomorrow it'll be a few cents higher than that.
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(http://i.imgur.com/r0ItpoR.jpg)
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Right at $3.00 per gallon in Honolulu.
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2.36 to 2.39 in my Mother's town in Central Pennsylvania.
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Up to $2.09 here in Tulsa this morning.
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2.03 in fredericksburg
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I drove a Nissan Altima from home in AL to Atlanta and back this weekend, about 600 miles round trip. One tank of gas, and it cost me $31.78. That's impressive.
I think it helped that I did 75 mph the whole way, instead of my usual 85-95-100 mph.
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$1.95 for 87 octane "ethanol enriched" last night
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2.249 in Rochester, MN.
It's 2.099 at Costco; don't know if they will be going up too or pull the others down a little.
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$2.26 in Gary, IN both Friday and Sunday. $2.28-2.29 in Indy. $2.49 around here.
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We paid $ 2.09 this morning to fill up the rental car in Tempe, Arizona. When we got home this evening, it was $ 2.21 at Costco.
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but have any of you heard about the oil refinery strikes going on? I hadn't even realized it was happening until someone at work mentioned it.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/managers-bunk-down-at-us-refineries-as-united-steelworkers-strike-enters-third-week/
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Yep. I think they shoudl fire them all and hire new non-union guys. I'd bet there are more then enough smart, trainable people out there willing to work full time at what the union guys are currently making.
Oh, and as the "FunFact" of the day. The reason they are on strike isn't wages, but the cost of Healthcare Insurance. Seems their Gold-plated union policies have been "Grubered" and they are not happy about.
YOU aholes VOTED FOR FOR HIM....TWICE....
SUCKS.
TOO.
BE.
YOU.
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$2.66 for 91 no E tonight.
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Looks like it's time to fill the tank. Double digit increases are predicted for most of the country over the next week. I checked Gasbuddy right after I watched the report, and they already went up 10 to 20 cents locally from yesterday, when I coincidentally happened to fill up (at $3.09).
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a dime more on Sunday since the gas tax was just raised $0.10 by law earlier this week. Actually pushed by republicans (in state house and senate) and signed into law by longest serving governor in the US.
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a dime more on Sunday since the gas tax was just raised $0.10 by law earlier this week. Actually pushed by republicans (in state house and senate) and signed into law by longest serving governor in the US.
And what is that funding? Do you support the increase?
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And what is that funding? Do you support the increase?
Road fund. I do support it because our fuel taxes go right back into road construction/improvements. Because vehicles are more fuel efficient then they were with the last increase in 1989, money was really starting to shrink and our roads/bridges are getting really bad in a lot of rural areas. Also it is a consumptive tax, you only pay it if you purchase road fuels.
I wish they would have made it a graduated tax: .03 this year, .04 next year and .03 in year 3.
I'm glad they didn't raise vehicle taxes/registration instead.
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Up 32 cents here in the last four weeks, a dime just last weekend. This is not a blip, it's on the way back up. Anybody else but me want to predict four bucks a gallon by the end of the third quarter?
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Road fund. I do support it because our fuel taxes go right back into road construction/improvements. Because vehicles are more fuel efficient then they were with the last increase in 1989, money was really starting to shrink and our roads/bridges are getting really bad in a lot of rural areas. Also it is a consumptive tax, you only pay it if you purchase road fuels.
"Lockbox" ;/
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So for the first time since I've owned my diesel, fuel is 50 cents/gal cheaper than regular gas around these parts. Right around $2.90-$3.00/gal.
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2.34
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$3.55-$3.79 for 87 octane out here in on my way to work tonight. It'll probably be higher on my way home this morning.
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Up 32 cents here in the last four weeks, a dime just last weekend. This is not a blip, it's on the way back up. Anybody else but me want to predict four bucks a gallon by the end of the third quarter?
Part of the jump has been the expected seasonal jump in price caused by the change over from winter to summer blend gasolines.
The price of crude oil is still the primary driver for the cost of gasoline and other distillates, and the price of crude isn't going up all that quickly right now.
We're still experiencing a significant oversupply of crude (US stores are at or near record levels).
Unrest in Yemen is playing on the price of crude, and the Saudis appear to be winning somewhat in their game of brinksmanship with the shale producers in the US and Canada.
Another factor driving prices right now are speculators who are anticipating the biggest driving season in nearly a decade in the US, which means burning a LOT more gasoline.
Then there's the fact that hedge funds and speculators took an absolute reaming over the past year, and now they're trying to get back into the markets low to hopefully recoup some of their losses.
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$ 2.89 at the local Costco, around $ 2.93-2.95 at the other local gas stations 25 miles north of Seattle.
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$3.55-$3.79 for 87 octane out here in on my way to work tonight. It'll probably be higher on my way home this morning.
I think among all the regular stuff, we're being hit because of the stupid CA special blend thing and a few current refinery problems. I'm pretty sure that's why my diesel is only relatively lower when compared to CA gasoline.
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There are various plans afoot to increase our fuel tax here in SC for "roads improvement". Across the board I do not support them because the SC DOT is a financial black hole...money goes into it and is never seen again.
But anybody against increasing the taxes is labeled as against improved/safer roads. "For the roads! Why do you hate better roads?" is the equivalent of "For the children!"
I am not against improving the roads, I am very much against pointless increases of taxes that pour yet more money into a broken state government where it will be used for anything BUT it's stated purpose. How about they take the money we already give them and use it to do their *expletive deleted*ing jobs and improve the roads...show me THAT happening and then maybe, just maybe, we can talk about an increase in taxes to fund it.
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There are various plans afoot to increase our fuel tax here in SC for "roads improvement". Across the board I do not support them because the SC DOT is a financial black hole...money goes into it and is never seen again.
But anybody against increasing the taxes is labeled as against improved/safer roads. "For the roads! Why do you hate better roads?" is the equivalent of "For the children!"
I am not against improving the roads, I am very much against pointless increases of taxes that pour yet more money into a broken state government where it will be used for anything BUT it's stated purpose. How about they take the money we already give them and use it to do their *expletive deleted*ing jobs and improve the roads...show me THAT happening and then maybe, just maybe, we can talk about an increase in taxes to fund it.
It's a problem from the local to the Federal level. I think most people would not have much of a problem with the taxes if they all went to road infrastructure. The fact that on the Federal level, they can't account for nearly 50% of the tax revenue does not make we want to jump on the "raise the tax to improve roads" bandwagon. First show me what you can do with 100% of the current tax being devoted to infrastructure, then we can talk.
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There are various plans afoot to increase our fuel tax here in SC for "roads improvement". Across the board I do not support them because the SC DOT is a financial black hole...money goes into it and is never seen again.
But anybody against increasing the taxes is labeled as against improved/safer roads. "For the roads! Why do you hate better roads?" is the equivalent of "For the children!"
I am not against improving the roads, I am very much against pointless increases of taxes that pour yet more money into a broken state government where it will be used for anything BUT it's stated purpose. How about they take the money we already give them and use it to do their *expletive deleted*ing jobs and improve the roads...show me THAT happening and then maybe, just maybe, we can talk about an increase in taxes to fund it.
That's why I vote against every school tax increase. I don't care how much they need the money; they are wasting the all money that they have (mostly on superfluous highly-paid do-nothing administrators and their staffs.)
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That's why I vote against every school tax increase. I don't care how much they need the money; they are wasting the all money that they have (mostly on superfluous highly-paid do-nothing administrators and their staffs.)
But it's for the chillruns! Why do you hate chillruns?
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$2.33 or so here in Tulsa.
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$2.33 or so here in Tulsa.
Must be nice, $2.59 here for 10% ethanol 87 octane.
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So here is my gripe...why are there so many summer blends? Why can't we have a winter blend and a summer blend that is consistent across the entire US?
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Probably a lot to do with seasonal air quality and EPA requirements.
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Probably a lot to do with seasonal air quality and EPA requirements.
winner winner chicken dinner.
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So here is my gripe...why are there so many summer blends? Why can't we have a winter blend and a summer blend that is consistent across the entire US?
Probably a lot to do with seasonal air quality and EPA requirements.
winner winner chicken dinner.
I have asked the same question myself. My point is why can't all gas be refined to the cleanest level required? Oh I know, that makes too much sense. :facepalm:
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"I have asked the same question myself. My point is why can't all gas be refined to the cleanest level required? Oh I know, that makes too much sense."
"cleanest" has nothing to do with it. Its creating blends that supposedly address specific air quality issues in those regions.
The air quality issues affecting LA are different from those affecting DC or Albuquerque.
One size doesn't fit all.
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Honest question: Have any of these different seasonal blends ever improved air quality enough to justify the costs of their implementation wherever they have been tried?
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Honest question: Have any of these different seasonal blends ever improved air quality enough to justify the costs of their implementation wherever they have been tried?
How dare you ask such a thing!
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Honest question: Have any of these different seasonal blends ever improved air quality enough to justify the costs of their implementation wherever they have been tried?
You have not been assimilated. You MUST be assimilated.
As with everything, the jury is out, but when I first moved to DC in 1990 it wasn't uncommon for us to have a significant number of air quality alert days, sometimes as many as 20-30 a summer.
I remember more than once seeing a brown smog haze over DC.
Don't see that anymore.
Here's an article that talks about it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/05/30/code-orange-air-quality-alert-for-d-c-area-first-of-2013/
And here's an article from 2014: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/10/03/d-c-air-quality-just-keeps-getting-better-zero-code-red-days-in-2014/
2014 was extra special in DC because it was one of the mildest summers in decades.
Winter air quality has also gotten better with the introduction of oxygenated fuels.
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As with everything, the jury is out, but when I first moved to DC in 1990 it wasn't uncommon for us to have a significant number of air quality alert days, sometimes as many as 20-30 a summer.
I suspect this has more to do with catalytic converters removing NOx. Very few cars on the road without that tech now vs the early 90's.
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I suspect this has more to do with catalytic converters removing NOx. Very few cars on the road without that tech now vs the early 90's.
That would be my guess also but now I wanna really know if it can be proven one way or the other
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I suspect this has more to do with catalytic converters removing NOx. Very few cars on the road without that tech now vs the early 90's.
And the gasoline was formulated to further enhance the performance of catalytic converters at various times of the year as well as account for those vehicles that didn't have them.
The primary summer pollutant is ozone in the DC metro area, with oxygenated gasolines being used in winter to cut down on carbon monoxide, which is the primary winter pollutant.
Very few things are ever "the one, the only, THE solution!", and this is one of them. It's a multi-tiered approach. You want to see what can happen when there's little to none of this approach? Beijing.
I'm personally not a big fan of a lot of what the gub does, but in the case of gasoline enhancements, I'm pretty much all for it.
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Not a comprehensive test but I will keep looking for one on the oxygenated winter blends
http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/e85-vs-gasoline-comparison-test.html
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I have not read beyond highlights in this
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-421
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Oh, and everyone get ready for a spike in gasoline prices in the next few days.
Oil and gasoline futures are on a rocket sled today.
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What's spooked the market?
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What's spooked the market?
Supposedly $60 a barrel is one of the magic prices to get many of the domestic rigs to start pumping again.
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What's spooked the market?
Yesterday was a small drop in the huge glut of US supplies.
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Supposedly $60 a barrel is one of the magic prices to get many of the domestic rigs to start pumping again.
I read a few days ago that two of the major frackers plan to dip into their fracklog in the June-July timeframe if prices remain above $60/barrel. That makes me wonder if we won't see price oscillations over months long cycles become the norm.
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"That makes me wonder if we won't see price oscillations over months long cycles become the norm."
Friend and I were discussing that, and we both think that's correct.
Most of it will be driven by the retarded monkeys who trade oil, either through direct commodity tenders or via the large hedge funds. Many of them were hurt pretty badly in the drop over the last few months.
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Down to $2.28/$2.29 in my parts.
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Got this in my e-mail today:
Hey Scout,
Great news! It’s time. Your new and improved BP Driver Rewards program is here. And to celebrate, we’re pumping it up even more with a limited-time offer.
Limited-time offer:
Earn 25¢ off per gallon
for every $100 spent on BP fuel at participating locations from now until September 1st, 2015.* After September 1st, 2015, you will receive 10¢ off per gallon.**
You don’t need to do a thing. Just head to your participating local BP station, and start earning today.
No need to get a new card either – use the one you have. Or use your registered phone number at the pump to earn and redeem rewards.â€
The only reason I got the card was that I running low and needed to buy gas in Illinois. Pulled into my local BP (as it was enroute and I didn't have time to drive the 5 miles to the cheapest place per gasbuddy.com), Saw their "Say $.20 per gallon on your first fill-up and $.05 per gallon after. Grabbed one of the cards from the flyer holder on the pump. Used my phone to register it, and got my $.20 off. I've used it once since to get my $.05 (I also get $.05 off at Pilot stations, but the closest one is Gary, IN on the way to my folks, which is also $.20-$.40 cheaper due to the lack of Illinois taxes.) So this will be handy around here, should the need arise. And also this summer when we travel.
If there are BP's in your area, $.20 off per gallon is pretty good deal.
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Oh, and I forgot that the USAA Mastercard has a $.05 per gallon cashback award program.
I figure at some point, I'll be getting paid to fill-up. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Irag announced they are going to increase production by 26%, curious what that will do to global oil prices.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-flood-oil-market-front-143746722.html
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There is a lot of uncertainty amongst oil speculators caused by how poorly Iraq is doing against ISIS. The resulting fear factor will probably offset any potential drop in prices caused by the extra oil coming on the market.
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Oil took a hard hit today.
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Oil took a hard hit today.
WTI was down a $1.69 during the day, but has recovered .32 in after hours electronic trading as of this writing. The Iraq announcement will wear off in a day or three and oil will recover to the $60.50-61.50 range where it's been hovering lately (in my non-expert opinion).
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Irag announced they are going to increase production by 26%, curious what that will do to global oil prices.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-flood-oil-market-front-143746722.html
I wonder what it will do to OPEC. I bet, it will be Katy-bar-the-door on Production. Venezuela is probably going to ramp up also as it's economy hits bottom and starts to dig. And even ISIS is selling the oil from the areas it seizes, so there's no net loss when they take over.
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WTI was down a $1.69 during the day, but has recovered .32 in after hours electronic trading as of this writing. The Iraq announcement will wear off in a day or three and oil will recover to the $60.50-61.50 range where it's been hovering lately (in my non-expert opinion).
As of right now your non-expert opinion sucks. :rofl:
Brent and WTI are both down, and gasoline and heating oil (the one that I really stress over because of Mom's house) are down sharply again.
Now that we're through the first major travel day of the season gasoline prices should hopefully stabilize a bit. To be honest, I expected the prices to rise harder than they did.
Gasoline at the station near my house is $2.67, at the station near CastleKey's house is $2.61, and in Pennsylvania between $2.75 and $2.89 where I was traveling this past weekend.
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It was $2.53 when I was in Indy over weekend, and that was before I got $.20 off at BP, and another $.05 for using my USAA card. So my net cost was $2.28.
Gas Stations here are $3.25 as of Tuesday. I sooooooo hate Illinois.
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Of the three gas station close by the house, two raised their prices .10 for the holiday to $2.59. The third station left theirs at $2.45. Of course, they got most of the business over the weekend. Those two stations that raised their prices have yet to drop them back to pre-holiday levels as of Wednesday. I'm starting to think they may have been a regular price increase having nothing to do with the holiday weekend. If the third station raises their prices in a few days we'll know for sure.
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As of right now your non-expert opinion sucks. :rofl:
Brent and WTI are both down, and gasoline and heating oil (the one that I really stress over because of Mom's house) are down sharply again.
I wonder if I could get paid for my predictions? They 're often just as good have the same level of accuracy as those from the professional types. =D
edited for clarity.
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Might be some SERIOUS spikes in gas prices over the next week or so.
WTI and Brent were both up in excess of 4%.
Gasoline futures were up over 5%, and heating oil futures were up over 4.5%
All for a US draw down of 2.8 million barrels of crude over the last week...
Still leaving inventories in the record breaking territory. *expletive deleted*ing traders are such bitches.
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Still leaving inventories in the record breaking territory. *expletive deleted*ing traders are such bitches.
I think there needs be a law that commodity traders have to have the facilities for full possession of the entire product to be able to trade.
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I think there needs be a law that commodity traders have to have the facilities for full possession of the entire product to be able to trade.
I agree completely. If you can't take full possession of the commodity, you can't trade in the commodity.
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Of the three gas station close by the house, two raised their prices .10 for the holiday to $2.59. The third station left theirs at $2.45. Of course, they got most of the business over the weekend. Those two stations that raised their prices have yet to drop them back to pre-holiday levels as of Wednesday. I'm starting to think they may have been a regular price increase having nothing to do with the holiday weekend. If the third station raises their prices in a few days we'll know for sure.
Yep, the third gas station raised their prices today 12 cents to $2.57. They always hover 2¢ or so under the other two stations.
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WTI was down a $1.69 during the day, but has recovered .32 in after hours electronic trading as of this writing. The Iraq announcement will wear off in a day or three and oil will recover to the $60.50-61.50 range where it's been hovering lately (in my non-expert opinion).
Almost there. WTI closed at $60.30 today, up $2.62.
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Might be some SERIOUS spikes in gas prices over the next week or so.
WTI and Brent were both up in excess of 4%.
Gasoline futures were up over 5%, and heating oil futures were up over 4.5%
All for a US draw down of 2.8 million barrels of crude over the last week...
Still leaving inventories in the record breaking territory. *expletive deleted*ing traders are such bitches.
So much for the law of supply and demand.
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Actually it is supply and demand. They are trying to forecast both in the futures martkets. A lot of factors go into that, various wars, current and projected production levels, projected demand (like summer driving season and how the low prices may affect that), along with a large variety of other factors.
So if commodity traders have to have the ability to "possess" the commodity, then travel websites have own airlines and hotels? NVOCC's need to own ships and airplanes? What about retailers that don't maintain any inventory, but drop ship instead? Should they be allowed to do it?
That wasn't a bad idea, Wash, but eliminating the middle man is never simple as it sounds.
About fifty percent of the human race is middle men and they don't take kindly to being eliminated.
This quadrant, we play nice. We got enemies enough as it is.
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On my trip from Florida to NJ over the last two days I've got 4. Prices are for Super. New Port Richey, Fl $2.89 Wentsworth, Ga $3.06
Rocky Mount, NC $3.22, and in Gettysburg it was $3.15.
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Yeah, Pennsylvania spiked their gas tax a few years ago. Last week I drove up to my Mom's, and in Lewistown the price for regular is $2.89. A few miles down the road, near Harrisburg, it's $2.75.
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Actually it is supply and demand. They are trying to forecast both in the futures martkets. A lot of factors go into that, various wars, current and projected production levels, projected demand (like summer driving season and how the low prices may affect that), along with a large variety of other factors.
Ideally, yes they are. In practice they are trying to corner the market. Think Hunt brothers and silver. That's why the rules were changed in that market years ago requiring possession.
So if commodity traders have to have the ability to "possess" the commodity, then travel websites have own airlines and hotels? NVOCC's need to own ships and airplanes? What about retailers that don't maintain any inventory, but drop ship instead? Should they be allowed to do it?
Uh, no. Not even close to the same thing. A fruit salad comparison.
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I paid $2.55 in Wisconsin last Thursday, $2.64 in Gary (also Thursday), and $2.32 in Indy on Sunday.
All prices are before BP/Pilot discount card reductions and the $.05 credit I get on from my credit card.
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$3.29 for 91 Octane, did get a discount of $1.45 a gallon from the fuel saver at the grocery store. So 17 gallons was right at $30.
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We're still in the high 2.60s to almost $3.00, depending on the station and area, here in Northern Virginia, which is pissing me off to no end.
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Gas has been $2.42 at Costco and $2.65 everywhere else for a couple of weeks. Costco jumped to $2.55 today but nobody else has raised their prices yet.
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It's been dropping for a few weeks, though I wonder how long that will continue. Paid $2.41 Saturday at the Hess/Wilco down the street.
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2.37 for regular
3.10 for no ethanol premium
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As we come to the end of the driving season I suspect gasoline will continue to drop in price.
Right now wholesale futures are down almost 4 cents a gallon.
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$2.23 here in Shreveport, LA yesterday.
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$ 2.93 this morning at the local Costco as I headed up to the new house with a car full of clothes from the closets.
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$2.55 I think here in the Tulsa area. Read where they predict below $2 after the summer.
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Just paid $2.739 to fill up.
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It's ranging from $3.259 to $3.599. The price went up 13¢ right after the news said prices should go down. =|
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That is your fault for living on the left coast with all those damn tree huggers.
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That is your fault for living on the left coast with all those damn tree huggers.
Yea, but can buy her high ABV beer cold.
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Yea, but can buy her high ABV beer cold.
I can too if I go to the air base, or drive an hour or so to Missouri.
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Yea, but can buy her high ABV beer cold.
$2.429 and real beer in Texas.
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Yea, but can buy her high ABV beer cold.
Please to be explaining. What is that all about?
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Please to be explaining. What is that all about?
Oklahoma blue laws on high point beer.
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Oklahoma blue laws on high point beer.
But what's the purpose of not selling it cold? They want a "waiting period" or something?
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^^^I have heard it explained that it cuts down on people drinking the beer as they drive away from the store. Who wants to drink warm beer while driving?
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Who wants to drink warm beer while driving?
The Germans. =D
If they still sell lower ABV beer cold, seems like all you have to do is drink more of it as you drive away.
Funny, I have a friend who lived in Puerto Rico for a while, and she said all the gas stations sold alcohol in containers that looked like kids juice containers for drinking on the road. I forget the name the locals called it, but something akin to "road beer".
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^^^I have heard it explained that it cuts down on people drinking the beer as they drive away from the store. Who wants to drink warm beer while driving?
When the local city council was debating drive through alcohol sales, it was brought up that in a town 5 miles by 3 miles and bounded on all sides by 45-55mph highways, even if one could instantaneously swallow an entire case of beer, they shouldn't be able to absorb much of it before getting home. Thus, the real concern for DUI would still come from bars and from stores well outside the city.
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$2.129 per gallon at Costco today, down about 40¢ from last week.
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I think we're back down to $2.31 or so.
As to Oklahoma liquor laws.... :facepalm:
You can't buy beer higher than 3.2 abv other than at a liquor store and they can't sell it cold. Cause folks might buy it and drink and drive. Of course nothing stopping them from buy a bottle wine or cheap vodka and drinking and driving.
We should have a ballot measure to fix that in November. Your guess is as good as mine if it will pass.
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Fricking gas prices are not going down like they should be in Northern Virginia. Wholesale is sitting at $1.67 a gallon right now, and we're paying an average of about $2.75. I'm seeing it lower in Arlington, $2.61, but it's much higher in other areas.
Heating oil wholesale is down to $1.539 a gallon, but the price in Pennsylvania doesn't seem to be slipping all that much, either.
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locally, it's about $2.40 for regular. Over in Alabama last week, I was buying for $2.13 in Birmingham.
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Haven't seen it myself but heard reports of less the $2 in OKC. Paid $2.68 for 91 octane for the bike yesterday. Regular is running $2.38 I believe this morning.
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$2.05 yesterday.
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Short article on the recent crash in commodities prices...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-05/commodities-meltdown-hits-2008-levels-of-bearishness
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GasBuddy(tm) says the current price at Costco is $1.91, and $1.94 at the KwikTrip across the street. (they're prices are usually not that close)
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They're finally building the gas station at our WalMart, so it'll be interesting to see if we finally get close to the prices 30 miles away in a town with a third of our population. (Usually a 10-12 cent spread, though I've seen as much as 27 cents difference when it was $2.529 here. They have a couple of overpriced stations, but three along the main US highway tend to be the lowest prices.) That one is sort of on my way to DFW, (Adds about 5 miles on a 150 mile round trip to DFW, or 10 when going to aikido class in Weatherford to go through there and fill up. Worth it with 35-38 mpg, especially when filling a couple of 5 gallon cans in addition to the 12 gallon tank.)
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GasBuddy(tm) says the current price at Costco is $1.91, and $1.94 at the KwikTrip across the street. (they're prices are usually not that close)
Which would be where? There are a lot of Costcos and KwikTrips...
About 10 years ago the WalMart in my Mom's town put in a big fueling plaza.
Less than a year later they yanked out out.
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Which would be where? There are a lot of Costcos and KwikTrips...
About 10 years ago the WalMart in my Mom's town put in a big fueling plaza.
Less than a year later they yanked out out.
But how many Costcos and KwipTrips are right across the street from each other?? =)
(Rochester, MN)
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Roaming around Charleston, prices seem to be a pretty consistent $2.09 with a few as low as $2.04 (BP), which with my $.20 discount with my BP card and $.05 for using my USAA Mastercard puts me right at $1.79 a gallon. Hello 1980's !!!!
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I'd be thrilled to see prices below $3 around here!
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2.13 right by Casa del Lupi. Was up in Greenville today though and saw 2.03
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Not sure where you guys are, but regular is up around $2.79 in Montana.
And we have three refineries locally :facepalm:
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$ 2.87 this morning at the Arlington Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Roaming around Charleston, prices seem to be a pretty consistent $2.09 with a few as low as $2.04 (BP), which with my $.20 discount with my BP card and $.05 for using my USAA Mastercard puts me right at $1.79 a gallon. Hello 1980's 2003!!!!
FIFY
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Gasoline and heating oil futures are spiking today. Up around 3%.
Most likely it will be a short term blip in a trend of lower prices.
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Richmond VA last weekend (8/1), I saw $2.35-ish. NoVa today, $2.75-ish. Down a few cents from last weekend up here.
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Reports out of China today that independent refiners have started buying more oil recently.
Plus, Chinese and US stocks are spiking today, as well.
We're paying about $2.28 a gallon in Hickory, NC right now. It's been trending down about 3 cents/week lately. I wonder if that will pause, or even reverse, with the increasing Chinese oil purchases?
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$2.17-$2.19 in the Tulsa area, under $2 in OKC.
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$2.399 last night locally. Got to go up to Weatherford tonight, so I may swing through Granbury on the way back to top off the tank and cans. GasBuddy showing $2.189 there as of an hour ago. Says 2.179 at the Pilot in Weatherford though. I'll pass that on my way in, so we'll see if I get lucky. Doesn't really save any distance, but not going through Granbury it's all interstate and 75mph US highway with only one stop sign and one short slowdown.
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I filled up for $1.89 yesterday.
The local Buccees was having a deal with a 15 cent/gallon discount using a credit union credit card. 10 cents more for getting a car wash. Regular price was about $2.14.
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Yesterday gasoline and heating oil both spiked hard, and crude rose, based on reports from China that they've been buying more oil and their economy seems to be kick starting.
Today the situation is almost completely reversed, with oil dropping hard, and gasoline and heating oil futures giving back almost everything that they gained yesterday, apparently because late yesterday the Chinese devalued the Yuan.
I'm starting to think the unthinkable...
That crude oil could slip below $40 a barrel in the coming weeks, and with the end of the driving season and the switch back to cheaper blendstock gasoline the price at the pump could drop quite a bit more.
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Well, Pilot was $2.349, but Granbury Racetrac was $2.189. Just seems crazy to have that much variation in about 20 miles, especially given that there was a $2.529 station along the interstate in Weatherford with a $2.399 one right across from it. Have to wonder if people are really not willing to cross the street to save $0.13/gallon.
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"Just seems crazy to have that much variation in about 20 miles,"
It's not uncommon in this area to see that much variation in stations that are across the street from each other.
When I first moved to the DC area there was one station, an Exxon, near the intersection of the George Washington Parkway, Route 123, and near the Chain Bridge.
Not a remote area by any stretch of the imagiation, and not that far from any number of gas stations less than a mile away...
Yet the gas at that Exxon was always 40 to 60 cents a gallon more than any other station in the area.
There was also an Exxon near where Mtnbkr and I used to work. VERY heavily traveled area in the heart of Tysons Corners, near a lot of office buildings, I66, and major auto dealerships. That one always had a 20 to 40 cent mark up over the Shell station that was literally right across the street.
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The town I grew up near is on I-10 West of Houston. The stations along the interstate were always 5 to 10 cents higher than anything even a couple hundreds yards off the interstate.
There was also an Exxon service station there. They were always 10 cents higher than everyone else. Few local people ever went there. It is out of business and torn down now.
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"Just seems crazy to have that much variation in about 20 miles,"
It's not uncommon in this area to see that much variation in stations that are across the street from each other.
When I first moved to the DC area there was one station, an Exxon, near the intersection of the George Washington Parkway, Route 123, and near the Chain Bridge.
Not a remote area by any stretch of the imagiation, and not that far from any number of gas stations less than a mile away...
Yet the gas at that Exxon was always 40 to 60 cents a gallon more than any other station in the area.
There was also an Exxon near where Mtnbkr and I used to work. VERY heavily traveled area in the heart of Tysons Corners, near a lot of office buildings, I66, and major auto dealerships. That one always had a 20 to 40 cent mark up over the Shell station that was literally right across the street.
Yup. Another example - There's a Hess at the corner of John Marr and Little River Tpk/236 in Annandale; just up John Marr at Columbia Pike is a BP. The BP is *ALWAYS* about $0.40/gal higher than anywhere else, including the Hess a block away.
I don't know that I've ever seen a car there, in the 9 years I've lived in NoVA. No idea how they stay open.
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Yup. Another example - There's a Hess at the corner of John Marr and Little River Tpk/236 in Annandale; just up John Marr at Columbia Pike is a BP. The BP is *ALWAYS* about $0.40/gal higher than anywhere else, including the Hess a block away.
I don't know that I've ever seen a car there, in the 9 years I've lived in NoVA. No idea how they stay open.
It's funny when passing through Mineral Wells on US281; there's a pair of stations, one on the north side and one on the south that are regularly $0.15 cheaper than the others, but they use old mechanical pumps so you have to go in and prepay. There's never a line for the two pumps at each of them. Even with MW's relatively poor population, (the averages don't do it justice, as there are a couple of disproportionately expensive neighborhoods where house values are 7-8 figures, but most of the town is in the low to very low five figures) people won't take an extra minute to save $2 on a fillup.
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Oil continues to drop. What...$43.00 bbl now? Yet gas here is $2.57 which is 50 cents higher than when oil was $60.00 a bbl. Guy on the radio said it would be over $3.00. smh.
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I saw $2.18 over night.
Interesting times.
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Went from $2.15 to $2.29 overnight for no good reason.
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That's not quite correct...seems some refinery in Indiana had some trivial problem...
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I said a good reason damn it.
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$ 2.83 this morning at the Arlington Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Still $2.19 in Claremore at the Come and Go.
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Oil continues to drop. What...$43.00 bbl now? Yet gas here is $2.57 which is 50 cents higher than when oil was $60.00 a bbl. Guy on the radio said it would be over $3.00. smh.
Sometime back before 2007 there was a great article about separation of price of gasoline and price of oil per barrel. I wish I could remember the reasoning they gave, but it made sense.
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Was 2.17 in fredericksburg on monday as high as 2.80 as i went cross to minnesota 2.49 in minnesota now
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Sometime back before 2007 there was a great article about separation of price of gasoline and price of oil per barrel. I wish I could remember the reasoning they gave, but it made sense.
Oil of course forms the base for the price of gasoline and all other distillates, but gasoline itself is a traded commodity, which adds another pricing mechanism into the mix.
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Another "why's it so more expensive here" story.
The station near my house, a Citgo, is about $2.65 a gallon right now. Around the corner, on a very busy road, are a number of stations. The Sunoco is about the same price as the Citgo, the Shell a bit higher.
Near Castlekey's house about 10 miles away prices are running about $2.51 a gallon (there are 4 stations in very close proximity - Liberty, Sunoco, BP, and Shell. The Liberty is usually the cheapest by a few pennies, and the Shell the most expensive by a few pennies. A half mile away on the same road is an Exxon, which is normally about 15 cents a gallon more expensive. It's the only station that's visible in that area, so that probably drives the price somewhat.
Near where I shop, on a very busy road, is an Exxon. Again, it's the only visible station for about a mile or more in either direction, but certainly not isolated at all. Last night it was still sitting at $2.99 a gallon, and I suspect that it's going to be at that price for a long time.
It seems that in this area if a gas station isn't in eyeshot of another station, the price immediately jumps by 10 to 15 cents a gallon.
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Just saw that prices jumped again overnight. Up to $2.45, 30 cent jump in just a couple of days.
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Just saw that prices jumped again overnight. Up to $2.45, 30 cent jump in just a couple of days.
Where are you? Prices are continuing to drop here (albeit slowly).
There've been issues with a refinery in Indiana, IIRC, which has impacted supplies to part of the midwest.
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Yesterday I saw $2.08 at one station and $2.15 at another.
There's a station near me with clerks too lazy to go out and change the numbers on the sign. It still says $2.89.
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Oil of course forms the base for the price of gasoline and all other distillates, but gasoline itself is a traded commodity, which adds another pricing mechanism into the mix.
Also something about how oil is a multiuse commodity, like for chemical feedstocks, not just fuels.
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Also something about how oil is a multiuse commodity, like for chemical feedstocks, not just fuels.
Uhm... Yeah. That's what this means: "all other distillates"
Crude oil, by itself, has virtually no applications other than being converted into refined materials.
Here's the generalized breakdown of what crude oil is turned into:
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=41&t=6
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Saw 1.99 last night on the way home from Greenville, at the sketchy looking station. Local to me is still floating around 2.10
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WTI just broke below $43 a barrel.
Gas futures are also down, but still are above where they were a week ago.
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Where are you? Prices are continuing to drop here (albeit slowly).
There've been issues with a refinery in Indiana, IIRC, which has impacted supplies to part of the midwest.
In Tulsa and I think they are using the refinery issues in Indiana as the excuse. Funny thing is there are two refineries right here in Tulsa. ;/ [tinfoil]
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There's a refinery in Bradford, Pennsylvania. Same thing. Gas is a chunk more expensive in town than it is in the surrounding communities.
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Local prices jumped well above $3 yesterday in my area due to the Indiana refinery problem. I filled up at ~$2.50 2 days before.
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Local prices jumped well above $3 yesterday in my area due to the Indiana refinery problem. I filled up at ~$2.50 2 days before.
We are dealing with the same refinery problems here in Ohio. Ohio stations are at $2.99/gallon for gas, since I work in Kentucky I filled up at lunch for $2.35/gallon.
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WTI and gasoline futures are getting pummeled today.
Gasoline has slipped below $2.50 a gallon at a couple of stations in my area.
I heard an industry analyst on WTOP radio saying that he expects gasoline to drop below $2 a gallon in the National Capitol Region.
The recent headline that absolutely killed me is here: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/algeria-calls-for-non-opec-output-cut-to-stop-oil-price-slump
Essentially, the head of Alergia's oil production (I think) has called on NON-OPEC producers to cut production to shore up prices.
In other words, he wans non OPEC producers to surrender market share that will be immediately grabbed by OPEC.
Nice try!
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$3.29 here in Illinois. I was paying anywhere from $1.99-2.09 last week in SC.
I really hate this state.
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WTI and gasoline futures are getting pummeled today. Gasoline has slipped below $2.50 a gallon at a couple of stations in my area.
I heard an industry analyst on WTOP radio saying that he expects gasoline to drop below $2 a gallon in the National Capitol Region.
The recent headline that absolutely killed me is here: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/algeria-calls-for-non-opec-output-cut-to-stop-oil-price-slump
Essentially, the head of Alergia's oil production (I think) has called on NON-OPEC producers to cut production to shore up prices.
In other words, he wans non OPEC producers to surrender market share that will be immediately grabbed by OPEC.
Nice try!
I wouldn't put it past Obama to do just that. And maybe have the EPA shut down a few refineries just for giggles.
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I wouldn't put it past Obama to do just that. And maybe have the EPA shut down a few refineries just for giggles.
And just HOW would the "Big Bad 'Bama" do that?
Everyone seems to think that the President, PERSONALLY (and no matter who the President is) has a big valve in the Oval Office that he can turn to control the supply of fuel and crude oil.
Because there's no state agency that controlls production, as there is in Russia and Venezuela or the other OPEC nations, the government can't arbitrarily screw with production to produce a short-term event.
If EPA tried to shut down refineries on an arbitrary whim, the Federal court injunction stopping that action would take maybe 8 hours to be issued. It's happened before, in the 1970s, when Carter's Energy Czar (IIRC it was him) tried to do a massive quasi-nationalization of production, storage, and refining in response to the OPEC embargos.
It didn't work.
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Oh, and just for grins and giggles...
Crude oil is now under $1 a gallon.
The break point is 42 gallons, which is the amount in a "barrel" of oil.
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Everyone seems to think that the President, PERSONALLY (and no matter who the President is) has a big valve in the Oval Office that he can turn to control the supply of fuel and crude oil.
Mike makes a great point. Obama had to put on his wetsuit to go down and fix the gulf oil leak a few years back.
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I paid a high of 3.29 to a low of 2.27 as I drove from Minnesota to va
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It's looking very possible that crude oil might break through the $40 a barrel barrier today.
Gasoline futures are continuing to drop, nearly 15 cents a gallon in the last two days.
China's stock market/economy continues to wallow, and we're getting ready for another big selloff in the early going for the Dow.
I'm beginning to think that the world is slipping right back into recession.
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I'm beginning to think that the world is slipping right back into recession.
(http://reactionimage.org/img/gallery/313259498.jpg)
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We've dropped below $2.20 a gallon at a few local stations.
Noticed that oil has dropped well below the $40/barrel level finally. I wonder if the drop will accelerate now that that psychological barrier has been crossed?
Stocks are taking a pounding. Down over 1k points at the opening bell. They has since recovered some, down about 550 now.
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The true drop in gas prices are going to come right after Labor Day, aka "Everyone Stops Driving Because All The Little Shits Are Back in Skool Day."
I think oil has an outside shot at closing below $38 a barrel today, but more likely above $38, maybe even slightly above $39.
Gasoline and heating oil futures are getting absolutely pummeled right now, down 6 cents and almost 5.5 cents, respectively. The heating oil number is the one that really interests me because of Mom.
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The station near me was $2.08 last night. Probably $2.44 today.
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The station near me was $2.08 last night. Probably $2.44 today.
Why would it have gone up?
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I saw something about the possibility of oil going all the way down to under $20 a barrel. That's less the $.50 a gallon.
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I saw something about the possibility of oil going all the way down to under $20 a barrel. That's less the $.50 a gallon.
I bet pump gas will never go below $1.75 nationwide average.
When gas was $.99-1.17 gallon, oil was at $10-$15 a barrel. Also fuel taxes have increased in a few state since those days.
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Oil, gas,and heating oil futures were slaughtered today.
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Topped off at 2.089 last night in Granbury. Still 2.349 here.
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Still in the $2.25 range around here.
Liking the lower gas prices but even though we all hate them the US oil producers are starting to feel the pinch. I don't see them going too much longer without additional major workforce reductions. If OPEC and friends can hold out long enough to shut down our domestic production then just a little longer so that it won't be just a matter of flipping a switch and turning it back on and we'll see $100 a barrel again.
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The lowest price I've seen locally is $2.52 for regular. Other stations in the area range from $2.57 (two) up into the $2.80s. Saw one station up-state a couple of weeks ago that was $2.41.
For awhile the price was dropping about 2 cents a day. The $2.52 price has been in place for a week or two now, so I sort of think it may have bottomed out.
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If you are in OH, IN, IL, MI, WI or MN then your prices should start falling to what the current national average is.
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"If OPEC and friends can hold out long enough to shut down our domestic production then just a little longer so that it won't be just a matter of flipping a switch and turning it back on and we'll see $100 a barrel again."
Except... there's absolutely no sign of any will within OPEC to do anything more tham pump. And Iranian oil hasn't even been factored in.
OPEC members are engaged in a huge amount of infighting over market share right now, which gives them even less incentive to cut production.
Some of the headlines coming out of OPEC have been hysterical bordering on inane.
Algeria last week called for non-OPEC members to cut production... in other words, cut their own production and allow OPEC members to re-establish a stranglehold on production.
Then, just a few days ago, Iran called on OPEC to take steps to secure and bolster oil prices... while at the same time saying that they're going to pump every drop of crude that they can to grow their market share.
I'm sure I know what Saudi Arabia's response to that would be... MOAR OILZ! PUMPZIES! PUMPZIES! FASTER, PUSSYCAT, PUMP! PUMP!
Over the last 20 or so years OPEC has stopped being an effective framework for controlling oil prices, or even supply and demand.
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"If OPEC and friends can hold out long enough to shut down our domestic production then just a little longer so that it won't be just a matter of flipping a switch and turning it back on and we'll see $100 a barrel again."
Except... there's absolutely no sign of any will within OPEC to do anything more tham pump. And Iranian oil hasn't even been factored in.
OPEC members are engaged in a huge amount of infighting over market share right now, which gives them even less incentive to cut production.
Some of the headlines coming out of OPEC have been hysterical bordering on inane.
Algeria last week called for non-OPEC members to cut production... in other words, cut their own production and allow OPEC members to re-establish a stranglehold on production.
Then, just a few days ago, Iran called on OPEC to take steps to secure and bolster oil prices... while at the same time saying that they're going to pump every drop of crude that they can to grow their market share.
I'm sure I know what Saudi Arabia's response to that would be... MOAR OILZ! PUMPZIES! PUMPZIES! FASTER, PUSSYCAT, PUMP! PUMP!
Over the last 20 or so years OPEC has stopped being an effective framework for controlling oil prices, or even supply and demand.
Also many nations need the crude oil money to pay for social programs to keep civil wars from happening.
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Saw $2.07 last night.
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2.45-2.55 depending upon station and location to I-35 or US Hwy 30.
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Gasoline futures have taken a huge pump (see what I did there?) this afternoon, now down over 8 cents a gallon.
In other words, wholesale gasoline is now 3 cents a gallon cheaper than wholesale home heating oil.
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Update: The station that was charging $2.52 yesterday is charging $2.48 today. One of the two stations along my commute that were $2.57 yesterday has dropped to $2.53 -- the other is still at $2.57.
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Oil is back above the $40 psychological barrier this morning and still rising. Gas is up six cents wholesale and climbing.
China's government intervened in some fashion in the market (the story did not say what form the intervention took) and the Shanghai Composite went from a .7% loss to a 5.3% gain in the last hour of trading.
If China's stock market truly stabilizes, then the oil and gas markets have likely hit their bottom as well. Much of the downward pressure on oil prices has been driven by perceived weakness in Chinese demand. It would not surprise me if this is where the speculators get their herd mentality back in sync and drive oil prices slowly upward again.
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Gas was at $1.99 here, yesterday.
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"It would not surprise me if this is where the speculators get their herd mentality back in sync and drive oil prices slowly upward again."
Except that there are several other gorillas in the room right now, too:
1. Massive global stockpiles.
2. Continuing overproduction, which will generally only get worse with a rise in the price of oil, which makes it more profitable for marginal producers to produce.
3. Iran. Iran has already said that once its markets reopen it's going to pump as much as it can as fast as it can to establish and capture market share. The likely Saudi response to that is going to be PUMPZ MOAR OILZ! It's very likely that they'll get tied into a supply war with Iran.
What we're seeing today, I believe, is a move by traders to get into any commodity class that they can to grab some quick profits. Same with precious metals today, and most other traded commodities. I suspect that this is nothing more than a rather temporary upwards correction.
US gasoline prices should continue to decline in the near term because we're very close to the move to winter blendstock, which is cheaper, and Labor day is the end of the heavy use driving season.
In other words, I may not be bearish, but I'm certainly not bullish.
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Paid $2.52 for 91 octane this morning. The "regular" gas was $2.22. Interesting that usually Oklahoma has some of the cheapest gas in the nation but right now we are lagging behind.
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If you are in OH, IN, IL, MI, WI or MN then your prices should start falling to what the current national average is.
Not likely just yet as long as the BP refinery in Indiana is still offline. $2.73 locally this morning.
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Not likely just yet as long as the BP refinery in Indiana is still offline. $2.73 locally this morning.
Really? I just did an Google News search and the only thing I can find is that the refinery has been restarted.
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A couple of the stations that I pass regularly on my commute are at $2.419 as of yesterday evening. The Citgo nearest my house is $2.459.
I'm working in an office in Springfield, Virginia, today, and a few of the stations that I passed on the way here are still in the $2.60s.
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Also many nations need the crude oil money to pay for social programs to keep civil wars from happening.
It's working great in Venezuela!
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Paid $1.949 today. :P
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2.89 for 91 Octane in Ankeny, IA.
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2.77 for diesel, 2.83 for regular in Spokane
bob
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Just saw $1.95 this morning and Walmart had $1.89 last night.
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$2.039 at the Weatherford WalMart last night.
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$ 2.61 at the Arlington Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I filled up for $2.399 on Arlington Boulevard in Arlington, VA, this morning.
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$2.15 this afternoon at the local Hess.
Get it while you can. It will start back up soon with the $8/barrel increase in oil the last three days.
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$2.68 at the Lihue Costco. That's nearly a dollar cheaper than the CA average.
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$2.15 this afternoon at the local Hess.
Get it while you can. It will start back up soon with the $8/barrel increase in oil the last three days.
Maybe, maybe not. There's a strong overcost bias built into the price of gasoline right now.
With oil trading in the $40-45 a barrel range you'd normally expect to see the price about 50 cents a gallon lower on average.
If this recent jump in prices of both wholesale oil and gasoline is, as I suspect, rather short lived with the pending end of the summer driving season, I'm thinking any jump in prices will be minimal and short lived.
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If this recent jump in prices of both wholesale oil and gasoline is, as I suspect, rather short lived with the pending end of the summer driving season, I'm thinking any jump in prices will be minimal and short lived.
I hope you're right, Mike. However, most of the recent rise in oil prices was, in my opinion, speculators reacting to the govt's fiddling with GDP growth numbers last week to make them look better than they truly are. I suspect we have hit bottom for this go-around. Oil will be going up for a while until the reality of .gov's fiddling with GDP numbers becomes apparent and market forces reassert themselves on prices. How far prices will rise is anybody's guess.
At some point gas will have to follow if the rise in oil prices continues. Perhaps with the downward pressure caused by the end of the summer driving season, we'll see gas prices stabilize rather than increase.
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Yes, it was. And that desire to rush into the oil markets based on a positive report in the US can be quashed by yet more economic woe coming out of China, more reports on how glutty the oil market is, how big US stockpiles are, etc. Happened before, it will happen again.
Right now we're still in a situation that favors a downward trend, especially if Congress approves the Iranian nuke deal and they start moving oil into the global markets.
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Forgot to mention that the station I filled up at yesterday morning for $2.399 had dropped to $2.359 yesterday afternoon.
And the Citgo near my house had raised the price from $2.499 to $2.519. But, on the weekends, they knock 6 cents a gallon off, so right now it should be $2.459.
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$2.22 on the Florida Turnpike Wednesday. $2.27 here in North Florida last night.
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Yes, it was. And that desire to rush into the oil markets based on a positive report in the US can be quashed by yet more economic woe coming out of China, more reports on how glutty the oil market is, how big US stockpiles are, etc. Happened before, it will happen again.
Right now we're still in a situation that favors a downward trend, especially if Congress approves the Iranian nuke deal and they start moving oil into the global markets.
Your analysis may be closer than mine. I was reading this afternoon that Chinese investors have little confidence in their government's ability to continue propping up their stock market. There are a lot of international investors with the same sentiment. It could get interesting.
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Every analyst report I saw/read over the weekend considers what happened last week to be a momentary blip in the general downward trend for oil.
A few are even predicting low $30s high $20s as the eventual bottom.
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ABC News has reported gas prices of around $9/gallon.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/29/flashback-abc-news-envisioned-apocalyptic-world-triggered-by-climate-change-video/#ixzz3kGG02y3L
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OPEC blinked, wants to talk to other producers about achieving "fair pricing", and "The Energy Information Administration trimmed its U.S. production forecast by as much as 130,000 barrels a day for the first five months of the year as it switches to a new survey, the agency said on its website."
Oil immediately spiked $2.22 over where it had started the day, after being down $1.60 a barrel earlier.
The ride gets bumpy from here on out as OPEC loses their influence over pricing, and US oil production cycles up and down with the bouncing oil prices.
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Yep. Didn't see that one coming.
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I figured OPEC would have to slow their pumping at some point. They've been eating into their currency reserves at a substantial rate. And while they have enormous reserves, more than the other OPEC members, those reserves won't last forever. There comes a time when their fight for market share becomes too expensive.
It's going to be interesting, following oil prices after this.
Wholesale gasoline and other refined product prices shot up today, too. Well, the cheap gas was nice while it lasted.
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$1.93/gallon in Spotsylvania, Va this afternoon. Self serve and the you-don't-have-hold-the-lever-thing was removed.
Back in the day :old: when we were still squeezing petroleum products out of the dinosaurs as they lumbered past, there were things known as "gas wars". Anywhere from 2 to 4 stations at an intersection and all of a sudden one of them would start trying to force the others out of business by lowering prices, increasing service, and increasing the premium giveaways. One of the better ones got down to charging only the federal tax (some stupid law prevented them from paying even a portion of it), three 3 guys in snappy uniforms with clip-on patent leather bow ties and pisscutter or bus driver hats charging out at the sound of the bell to wash your windshield front and back plus at least the driver's side window, check your oil and scald themselves pouring water from a galvanized can into your radiator, deflate your tires to the recommended cold pressure even though you had been driving all day, and hand you a box of laundry detergent with a part of a dinnerware set, a box of dishwashing detergent with a dish towel inside, toys for the kiddies, and if you went to the right station a new toothbrush in crinkly plastic and what we now call a travel size tube of either Ipana or Colgate toothpaste. After all that was taken care of the head guy of the crew would ask if you wanted any gas, and if so ethyl or the other stuff.
Of course, this might involve waiting in a line that made the 70s embargo conga lines look like speed skating.
Those were the days when you could ride your bike down to the gas station and drive over the air hose repeatedly until the owner came out and threatened to call your parents. And when you could either bring your leaky inner tube and get it patched and filled for anywhere from free to a nickle, or buy an inner tube (that might or might not burst on you when you were out over your head at the beach) for a dime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZngGIw5ONWE
stay safe.
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there were things known as "gas wars". Anywhere from 2 to 4 stations at an intersection and all of a sudden one of them would start trying to force the others out of business by lowering prices, increasing service, and increasing the premium giveaways.
I worked at one of those stations around 1968 at a corner in Lawton OK. We didn't have a station across from us but in order to pull the business from closer to town we would lower prices. We got down to 12.9 cents per gallon for about 2 days before we had business and could start raising prices again.
I didn't wear a spiffy tie but I was expected to show up in clean clothes and a button up shirt ( I am not sure we had anything else back then). Pump the gas, wash the windshield and offer to check the oil and tires.
bob
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"I figured OPEC would have to slow their pumping at some point."
OPEC really isn't saying anything about slowing pumping right now. The want to enter into discussions with non-OPEC producers to "support a fair price for oil."
What that really means is "You MoFos get the fudge out of the oil business and let OPEC sell all the world's oil."
Personally I have a very hard time seeing that this will go anywhere quickly, and I think a lot of analysts are feeling the same way. While OPEC is a block and professes unity, each nation desperately wants to protect its piece of the market. OPEC has production limits in place, which are routinely violated by almost all of its members because they're trying to capture as much market share as they can.
Remember, back when the price of oil started falling, Saudi Arabia made it very clear that their intention was to pump like hell, let the price fall, and hopefully drive North American rigs, especially shale oil, out of production.
I think the ONLY reason that they're broaching this right now is because Iran is getting ready to jump back on line if the nook agreement is signed and sanctions are eased, and Iran is the only nation that can really give Saudi Arabia a run for its money production wise.
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Saudi Arabia is between a rock and a hard place with regard to oil. At some point they are going to have to cut back on pumping to drive prices back up. With Iran about to jump back into the market (if the nuke deal is signed, which is a definite maybe), they may have decided to forgo the market share war and move to cut production and prop up prices. They need the money for all the reasons discussed previously.
Also, SA has hit the bond market recently to fund their budget deficit to lessen the draw down on currency reserves.
One of the articles I read mentioned SA has already internally decided to cut production and wants to get the rest of OPEC on board through these discussions. Another said that SA just wants to start the discussion in that direction, with no indication a decision has been made. It would be nice to know which was the more accurate.
I suspect most OPEC members would like to see a production cut to drive prices higher as many of them are in much more serious budget straits than SA. I would bet SA could pretty easily herd all those cats in the same direction right now, with the exception of Iran. Iran is a wild card, as they desperately want more market share to make up for what they have lost due to the embargo, but they also want prices to rise. Somewhat mutually exclusive desires given the current market (and very dependent on the nuke deal). Iran needs pricing north of $100/barrel for their own budget reasons, but that goal may not be attainable.
Can OPEC exert as much clout to maintain higher prices long term? Probably not, what with increased production world wide by non-OPEC members, including the US. OPEC's influence is certainly waning.
At this point I am wondering if this price spike event will mark the beginning of the long term oil price oscillation we discussed earlier in this thread.
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Saudi Arabia figures that they're sitting on more than enough hard cash right now that they can push smaller producing nations and independents like US drillers out of business, or at least make it so costly for them to do business that they'll shutter wells, and they can swoop in and pick off the market share.
They know exactly what they're doing is an enormous game of brinksmanship. They're not dumb people.
So far its working to a degree. Venezuelan oil production is plummeting at a staggering rate due to socialist lack of maintenance (can't spend money maintaining the rigs, we gotta give the people lots of free *expletive deleted*it!), Russia is getting to the same position, a bunch of US wells have been shuttered, etc.
Right now it's complete and total speculation as to what the Saudis are going to do. When they want to be, they can be very cagey.
"Can OPEC exert as much clout to maintain higher prices long term?"
We're seeing entirely new language in the oil discussion -- fair price.
That's only started popping up in the last few months or so.
I have no doubt that I know the Saudi definition of "fair price" -- a price more than enough for us to make a profit and control market share, but not high enough to make it profitable for US/Canadian and non-OPEC drillers to make a profit.
As I said, they are playing a very fine game of brinksmanship. It's a game they know how to play, and one that they're pretty good at.
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Oh, by the way...
Oil, Gas, and Related Products (what I call OARP, and which includes heating oil) are dropping HARD today.
China continues to be the multibillion pound economic gorilla in the room.
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One thing for sure, Mike, whatever happens will be interesting to watch. That "fair price" language is new. I hadn't made that connection yet, even though it was in the stories I read.
While they still have enormous currency reserves, SA has still hit them pretty hard waging this war for market share. I don't recall the details of the last projection I read, but there was mention that SA would likely not maintain this gambit for more than a couple of years at the outside. I think that is behind their recent large bond sales, the first since 2007.
Another concern for them is that they have no other real industry to fall back on when the oil runs out. Diversification is something they are only now beginning to look at. SA is going to be in real trouble long term if they don't figure something out.
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Of course they've been hit hard. They factored that in. They knew that they'd have to draw down their currency reserves. They want to replace the money they made with $100 a barrel oil with money they make from $72 a barrel oil AND the extra market share that they capture.
Their bond sales are another indication that they're digging in for the long term. By financing debt, as opposed to paying it, they get money up front, which keeps them from making even bigger drawdowns on their hard currency, and spread the cost over a longer period of time. Yes, they pay more, but they're figuring they're going to win this, or at least come out in a very advantageous position.
The fact that they can play this game for a couple of years is a LOT longer than anyone else can play it. If you're going to war, you generally want to go from a position of strength, and that's what they've done.
As of right now OARP has given up most of yesterday's gains.
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Oh, and the price per gallon at the stations I pass in Arlington, VA, has gone down another couple of cents to $2.33.
Which is still higher than it should be.
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$2.14 in Starke Florida, yesterday
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Was kicking myself for not having poured off the 5 gallons in the trunk can into one of the long-term cans in the garage when I spotted $1.989 and only had room in the tank for 3 gallons.
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2.33 in Grand Marias MN
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OARP was absolutely slaughtered today.
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Down to $2.14 a gallon here in Tulsa, $2.44 for 91 octane.
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Heading to Pennsylvania today for the holiday weekend. Going to be interesting to see what the prices are along the way in Maryland and PA.
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2.35 to 2.49 on the way up. 2.41 at the station near Mom's.
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$2.94/gallon for 87 octane in Golden CO. last night. Up ~ 20 cents from prior purchase about 2.5 weeks ago.
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$2.12 for 87 octane, $2.42 for 91 octane this morning here in Tulsa.
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2.259 Emporia KS
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Paid $2.19 in Indy last week. $2.49 out at Waterman, IL on Sat. It's $2.79-$2.83 here around me.
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Paid $2.19 in Indy last week. $2.49 out at Waterman, IL on Sat. It's $2.79-$2.83 here around me.
$2.19 in Wichita, KS should have waited but I needed fuel.
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$2.21 for 87 octane in west Michigan. I'm heading up to Copper Harbor, MI to do some mountain biking next week, I can pretty much guarantee a refinery accident and $3.00 a gallon for the week of my trip! :P
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$2.19 in Wichita, KS should have waited but I needed fuel.
The six cent difference, say for a 20 gallon tank, means a $1.20 difference.
I don't worry about getting the absolute lowest price around for that little bit of difference. I know people who will drive all over town finding the absolute lowest price gas station, in the process burning up more gas.
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1.99 down the road from me. Saw it for as low as 1.86 over the weekend down around my evil sister in laws house.
Sent from my iPhone. Freaking autocorrect.
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The six cent difference, say for a 20 gallon tank, means a $1.20 difference.
I don't worry about getting the absolute lowest price around for that little bit of difference. I know people who will drive all over town finding the absolute lowest price gas station, in the process burning up more gas.
I was trying to be funny, I'm driving my wife's Honda Accord, so like a 13 gallon tank. I don't let my tank get below 1/4, so it was a 10 gallon fillup, so I would have saved .60. I was driving to Wichita.
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1.99 down the road from me. Saw it for as low as 1.86 over the weekend down around my evil sister in laws house.
Sent from my iPhone. Freaking autocorrect.
With a .30 cent discount per gallon I filled up for $1.57 per gal on Friday. That was pretty sweet.
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Paid $1.95 the other night in OKC.
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$1.94
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Under $2/gal in DFW over the weekend at Costco.
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Still getting screwed at the pump in Eastern WA. 2.79 for both regular and diesel. Idaho usually runs 10-15 cents a gallon cheaper.
bob
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2.29 Eagleville MO
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$2.59 near Milwaukee,WI.
It sucks but beats the $3+ we had a month ago.
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Saw $2.04 this afternoon, of course I filled up yesterday at $2.09
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Filled at $2.11 today. It was $2.09 just down the road a bit.
The lowest I saw during the last downturn was $1.97 at the station selling for $2.11 today.
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The six cent difference, say for a 20 gallon tank, means a $1.20 difference.
I don't worry about getting the absolute lowest price around for that little bit of difference. I know people who will drive all over town finding the absolute lowest price gas station, in the process burning up more gas.
Yup. I'll go to Costco if there's only a small line, but when it's a 15-20 minute wait with a line out and into the street, I'll go to the guy that's 20 cents a gallon more just because my time is more valuable to me than that.
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$2.58 here, but Missoula tacks on a lot of gas taxes because "cars bad" or something
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Down to $2.43 at the station near my house, and down to $2.27 at the station I get at occsionally (and which I use for repairs) in Arlington, Va.
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$2.25 here...the refinery shutdown is now just a memory.
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Down to $1.99 here in Tulsa at most places.
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Made it home (Ames, IA) last night after 11 days on the road to $2.459 for 87 no E fuel.
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I had to make a run up to Sedan, KS overnight. I was seeing $2.29 just across the state line.
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$1.87 at Costco just north of Dallas.
Costco Gas Stations: All the gas, none of the skeeve.
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$2.99 at a Costco in So Cal.
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1.89 today! And below $2.00 in GA.
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$1.87 and $1.92 around here.
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$1.85 for 87 octane and $2.15 for 91 octane this morning
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The station nearest me is still at $2.33.
In Arlington, VA, the stations I pass are in the $2.19/$2.23 range now.
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$ 2.36 at the Arlington Costco this morning.
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$2.65 in Central CA. Never thought I'd see under $3 for gasoline in CA ever again.
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I filled my truck this morning for $1.87. I filled the company car earlier for $2.21, I had to look a while to find a place that high. Of course if I had been driving my company van instead of the boss' freaking Prissus because he can't see his way clear to get the repairs done on mine like he's supposed to I wouldn't have been in that situation, I also wouldn't have had to stick his budget for $150 in overtime this morning either. :)
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$ 2.36 at the Arlington Costco this morning.
Arlington, Virginia, or Arlington, Texas?
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Arlington, Virginia, or Arlington, Texas?
Millcreek is in WA, so I would assume Arlington, WA.
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Didn't even know there was an Arlington in Washington.
Normally it's a good day when you learn something new.
I'll make an exception here, though. :rofl:
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Arlington is about 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$1.76 yesterday...$1.69 last weekend.
I literally can't remember the last time I saw gas at $1.69. 1999 maybe?
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$1.89 for regular yesterday in Bluefield, Va. $2.04 for ethanol free in Princeton, WV. $2.36 here on the mountain in Ghent, WV (exit 28, I-77), 20 miles north of Princeton!?!?!
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It's dropped to $2.17 at the stations in Arlington, Virginia, but is still holding on at $2.33 at my station in Fairfax. :mad:
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$2.04 at my usual station down the road. $2.03 where my wife usually goes.
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2 frigging 69 at the one station near where I shop.
Insane.
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Was able to get diesel for 2.61 a gallon today, I don't think WA, at least Eastern WA will ever get below 2 dollars again. Too many taxes.
bob
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$1.76 yesterday...$1.69 last weekend.
I literally can't remember the last time I saw gas at $1.69. 1999 maybe?
2003-2004 IIRC.
1999 gas in Iowa was $1.17-1.34. I was self employed as a carpenter, so I kept records of all my expenses.
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$2.08 here today, and drifting up. (was $2.05 yesterday, and briefly hit $2.00 a week ago)
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Ah yes, the thread I come to when I want to get pissed!
With a little hunting, I can still find gas for under $3. Filled up on the way home from work yesterday for $2.99.9. And thank you, Ben for letting me know I could have actually GOTTEN IT CHEAPER IN CALI@&%*NIA. [ar15] [ar15] [ar15] [ar15] [ar15]
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Ah yes, the thread I come to when I want to get pissed!
With a little hunting, I can still find gas for under $3. Filled up on the way home from work yesterday for $2.99.9. And thank you, Ben for letting me know I could have actually GOTTEN IT CHEAPER IN CALI@&%*NIA. [ar15] [ar15] [ar15] [ar15] [ar15]
That's unexpected. Do you guys have some extra gas taxes now or something? I would have figured the Vegas area would be one of the cheapest areas in NV.
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Okay, you just provoked me into logging on to "Gas Buddy". They show Costco prices at $2.45. We dropped our Costco membership years ago when the closest one to us became a "business center." Sam's Club is showing up at $2.49 to $2.75. Except at the one close to us. Then there are a few at 10 to 15 cents less than $2.99, but they are all far enough of that I'm not going to spend the time (traffic!) and miles to get to them. Especially with an 11 gallon tank. I put 7 gallons in it yesterday. Driving across town to save a buck or less ain't gonna happen.
Gas Buddy shows the highest prices (regular) running from $3.21 at a 7-11 to a Sinclair at $3.39.
In or near MY turf, $2.99 is the best I'm gonna get at the moment. I would find it hard to believe that we pay more because we're in a higher income area. Our household is pretty average.
ETA: From an article in the Las Vegas Review Journal in March
After Southern Nevada’s four-month honeymoon with reduced gasoline prices, motorists now have been hit with the perfect storm.
Refinery maintenance. Preparations to manufacture “summer blend” fuel. A refinery workers strike. Gasoline supply speculation. An explosion and fire at yet another refinery.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/energy/here-s-why-southern-nevada-gasoline-prices-skyrocketed-again (http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/energy/here-s-why-southern-nevada-gasoline-prices-skyrocketed-again)
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I filled up for 1.95 outside of Winston-Salem yesterday. Here around Raleigh it's still 2.09.
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$3.02 for 91 No E in Ames, IA.
$2.29 for 87 10% E
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Down to $2.13 at the one station in Arlington, VA.
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$2.33 this morning at the Arlington Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.02 yesterday at the Wilco-Hess down the hill. Wifey reports under $2 up the highway at a couple of places in Caldwell County.
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Interesting the prices are going down in some places but up in others. Back up to $2.09 here in the Tulsa are yesterday, lowest I saw it was $1.85 on Friday.
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Interesting the prices are going down in some places but up in others. Back up to $2.09 here in the Tulsa are yesterday, lowest I saw it was $1.85 on Friday.
Wondering if we're close to the bottom here, as well. The last bottom we hit $1.97 at the Wilco-Hess. It's $1.99 today; noticed the truck making a delivery as we drove by on the way to the local Asian market.
Paid $1.99 at the Raceway late this morning filling the truck.
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Here in the Western Suburbs of Mordor, where apparently we suck less then Las Vegas, it's $2.55-$2.59 when I was out running errands (not that I bought any...)
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Seen the low 1.80's here. Diesel is still 2.40 ish.
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$2.24 per gallon for reg unleaded today after work.
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Here in the Western Suburbs of Mordor, where apparently we suck less then Las Vegas, it's $2.55-$2.59 when I was out running errands (not that I bought any...)
Well, yeah! Look at all the hookers we got out here.
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2.27 here in Cincinnati.
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$4.29 in Lee Vining, CA
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$4.29 in Lee Vining, CA
Jesus Christ we are paying less than two bucks a gallon in SC
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Jesus Christ we are paying less than two bucks a gallon in SC
Well to be fair, is $2.65 on the other side of the mountain. Eastern Sierra is a long haul for the fuel trucks. I still have to fill the tank once with the expensive stuff though.
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Saw it for less than $2 a gallon Saturday in Haymarket, Va.
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Just bought for $1.81 last night. No special discounts to get there, either.
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$2.15 in Clear Lake, IA. 87 10%-E.
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Last week is was 2.23. Then jumped to 2.46. Prices seem to go up and down by a quarter or so at any given moment.
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$2.35 in Waterman IL when I topped off on Saturday.
Hey Doggy Daddy !!! What's gas going for in Hookerville USA?
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oil and gas futures fell nicely today.
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$2.35 in Waterman IL when I topped off on Saturday.
Hey Doggy Daddy !!! What's gas going for in Hookerville USA?
One of my go-to stations (path to/from work, usually the lowest price in my travels) was $2.89 this morning. ARCO, Decatur and Washington.
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2.90 for No E 91
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Back down to $2.04
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$1.90 in Keller, TX. I assume it is 10% ethanol.
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Time to revive this.
The price had been holding pretty steady for a couple of weeks, but it's now on the way down again.
The station near my house is still at $2.15, but the stations near where Castlekey lives are down to $2.03 after having been stalled around $2.13 for the better part of a month.
Even better, the price of heating oil is down significantly this year. Last year it was costing Mom upwards $3.70 a gallon, now it's under $2.00. Still way too damned expensive.
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$ 2.18 yesterday morning at the Arlington Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I paid $1.719 a few days ago. It's back to $2-something now.
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Saw $1.99 this morning.
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Posted price at the Bucees down here was 1.78 yesterday. They still have a 15 cent discount for using the Dow Employee credit union card also.
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"They still have a 15 cent discount for using the Dow Employee credit union card also."
NICE!
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It had stalled for the last three weeks at $1.99 at the Hess just down the hill. Dropped to $1.95 on Thursday.
Some of the stations in the next burg north on US 321 are a few cents cheaper.
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$1.94 here in the Tulsa area
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$2.05 in Mason City, IA at Mills Fleet Farm
$2.35 in Ames, IA
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Looks like the price of oil is going to drop some more
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-plans-sell-down-strategic-100009222.html
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OARP is dropping today. West Texas was down well over $1 a barrel earlier today, and gasoline and heating oil were both down over a penny a gallon, but all are recovering somewhat now.
Selling some of the strategic oil reserve isn't going to have much impact now. By 2018 most analysts suspect that the glut will largely be gone and prices will be back up.
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Posted price at the Bucees down here was 1.78 yesterday. They still have a 15 cent discount for using the Dow Employee credit union card also.
15 cents per gallon or per tank?
(Imagining some station pulling the dick move of a $.15/tank discount, and me filling my tank in $.15 increments.)
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15 cents per gallon or per tank?
(Imagining some station pulling the dick move of a $.15/tank discount, and me filling my tank in $.15 increments.)
Per gallon. The price showing on the pump changes. I filled up for less then $40. They have had that going for a couple months now. Maybe I should ask if the credit union should be raising the savings account interest rates instead. I am not sure who is eating that cost.
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It's nice getting change from a ten when filling a five gallon can. (Or more often, putting the few remaining cups in the car's tank.) It's even nicer that $20 will pretty much fill my tank unless I had to push the car to the pump, and that that's enough for over 400 miles of open road driving. Even with my long weekend drives to north Dallas, I rarely do over 250-300 in a weekend, and that would assume either two activities in very different places, or a not-very-convenient place to sleep on someone's couch...and nobody to carpool with from Granbury or Weatherford.
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Holy freaking crap, the market price of oil, gasoline and heating oil is absolutely skyrocketing today.
And I can't freaking figure out what's driving it.
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I just filled up at $1.84 last night (before my discounts.)
Looks like that was good timing.
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It finally broke below $2.00 a gallon at the station near my house.
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Holy freaking crap, the market price of oil, gasoline and heating oil is absolutely skyrocketing today.
And I can't freaking figure out what's driving it.
Gotta pay for this LNG station in Afganistan somehow.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/02/afghanistan-43m-gas-station-colossal-waste-us-taxpayer-money/?intcmp=hpbt1
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You do realize that gasoline and CNG are not the same thing, and the market price of oil and related products are not impacted by what the DOD spends to build local infrastructure, right?
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You do realize that gasoline and CNG are not the same thing, and the market price of oil and related products are not impacted by what the DOD spends to build local infrastructure, right?
Yes. You do realize.your sarcasm meter needs adjusting, right?
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Work car is required to have E-85 (I work for a state governmental agency now) so $1.59 a gallon for it at the pump in Nevada, IA.
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Went from $1.87 to $2.09 overnight here in Tulsa.
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Work car is required to have E-85 (I work for a state governmental agency now) so $1.59 a gallon for it at the pump in Nevada, IA.
Nevada or Iowa, which one is it? Make up your mind! :P =D
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Yes. You do realize.your sarcasm meter needs adjusting, right?
Given some of the previous comments about how the Obamanator was going to turn the big, secret valve under his desk, the one that controls the supply of oil and gasoline, as we get closer and closer to elections, I'd have to say that assuming anything to be sarcasm in this thread is a... well... bad move.
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Nevada or Iowa, which one is it? Make up your mind! :P =D
Even worse, it's in Chicago Albany Santa Fe County...
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So much for that. Local station is back to 2.09. Stations in Arlington are at 1.99.
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I work for a state governmental agency now.
I didn't realize you were Ron Dunn, from Parks and Recreation.
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Nevada or Iowa, which one is it? Make up your mind! :P =D
By way of Wyoming, IA.
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I didn't realize you were Ron Dunn, from Parks and Recreation.
Nicely played.
Actually I didn't go the recreation route, I got hired in a regulatory capacity.
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I always imagined him as being a more annoying, less effective Michael Scott kind of individual...
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I always imagined him as being a more annoying, less effective Michael Scott kind of individual...
I'm definitely more effective/productive that that character. Annoying? Depends what side of the situation you are on that I am tasked with. On my team, no. If you are the problem and don't respond in a timely manor, I'm the burr under your saddle.
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And back up to 2.159 at the station near my house.
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Up to $2.09 from $1.93 overnight at many of the stations in the area. Oddly, the local Exxon is still at $1.97, but I doubt that will last.
At least the low this time was four cents lower than the last dip in prices. I wonder how far the increases will go this time?
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$2.70 for regular at a Costco in So Cal...
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$1.85 at the Shell station near me yesterday.
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$1.85 at the Shell station near me yesterday.
Price war between the brand new Murphy and the Allsups next to it. Murphy is still at $1.579 after a couple days of $1.439.
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Damn... Nice!
Gasoline and crude have started dropping again over the last week or so, and I'm already seeing prices in NoVa starting to slip.
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Heard it is as low as $1.73 at a couple places around Tulsa.
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$2.70 for regular at a Costco in So Cal...
$2.59 for both reg and diesel in Central CA at Valero. $2.39 at Costco this morning, but holy hell, the line!
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Heard it is as low as $1.73 at a couple places around Tulsa.
A friend of mine posted a pic of a QT at Admiral and Memorial showing $1.679.
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A friend of mine posted a pic of a QT at Admiral and Memorial showing $1.679.
Just saw that this morning. I live just about a mile or so from that station. They are in a price war with a Murphy (Wal-Mart) right across the street. QT will win.
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AAA is now predicting that the US will hit sub $2 a gallon gasoline prices.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gas-prices-plummeting-1-50-191652012.html
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Just saw that this morning. I live just about a mile or so from that station. They are in a price war with a Murphy (Wal-Mart) right across the street. QT will win.
Clean bathrooms, bigass drinks and relatively good food always win for me, even if they are a couple cents more than someone else nearby. They're rarely more than a nickel higher, and my car only holds 12 gallons.
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Clean bathrooms, bigass drinks and relatively good food always win for me, even if they are a couple cents more than someone else nearby. They're rarely more than a nickel higher, and my car only holds 12 gallons.
QT is always clean and as you say cheap drinks and with their new kitchen concept the food is getting better.
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This morning I filled up for 1.81. Was across town the other day and saw it for 1.79
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I paid $2.10 here in Wheaton the other day. Today a friend of mine posts a picture of the pump price of $1.99.....in Cook County !!!!
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$1.65, but I hear it's $1.63 just a few miles down the road.
(St. Louis County, MO)
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I paid $1.25 yesterday. Normal price was $1.67 but QT has a promotion with a local grocery chain to earn points for money spent at that store. Helps that our daughter is an employee at the grocery store so we not only get her 10% discount, we save on gas.
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"I paid $1.25 yesterday."
sweet!
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Not sure on the gas but I just paid 2.14 for diesel.
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I just paid $1.63, losers. :P
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$1.85 in Effingham on my way to Johnson County to go deer hunting this weekend.
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I just paid $1.63, losers. :P
Still $.38 behind what I paid. :-*
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$ 2.25/gallon at the Arlington Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Dropped to $1.99 at a station near Castle Key's house, and also $1.99 at the station down the street from me.
Within a day or two at least two of the three other stations near Castle Key will be at $1.99. The Shell station is always a couple of pennies more, but they have the gas rewards program with Giant food in the area, so I'm sure people are paying a lot less.
I'd get my gas there, but when I'm going through in the correct direction it's always way too early for it to be open.
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Haven't seen what it is right now but the place I paid $1.25 for is in a price war with the Murphy/Wal-Mart across the street. This morning it was $1.64.
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Haven't seen what it is right now but the place I paid $1.25 for is in a price war with the Murphy/Wal-Mart across the street. This morning it was $1.64.
Just filled this morning and you are correct its $1.64 for a premium gas.
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Still $.38 behind what I paid. :-*
Special Secret Squirrel Club promotional discounts do not count. :-*
Advertised price only; no "with a car wash it's only this much" deals.
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Just filled this morning and you are correct its $1.64 for a premium gas.
Welcome Cornerrow to our little corner of the interwebz. =D =D I it take you are in Tulsa also?
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Special Secret Squirrel Club promotional discounts do not count. :-*
Advertised price only; no "with a car wash it's only this much" deals.
As long as people identify it as being a special price, there's no issue with them posting (gloating?) the actual price that they paid.
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As long as people identify it as being a special price, there's no issue with them posting (gloating?) the actual price that they paid.
There is when it's lower than what I paid.
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Special Secret Squirrel Club promotional discounts do not count. :-*
Advertised price only; no "with a car wash it's only this much" deals.
There is nothing Special Secret Squirrel Club discount. Everyone has the opportunity to take advantage of the price break. :-*
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Still in the $2.20s here in Central Pennsylvania.
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$1.80 in Effingham on the way back from Deer Camp. Topped off in Monee for $1.92.
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$1.75.9 here in Shreveport LA for Regular today
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Down to $1.98 here in W. Michigan.
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$1.61 in Lubbock this afternoon.
Brad
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I have a work provided car with my new job and I can get tax free fuel for it since I work for the state gov. Well I can't get it tax free everywhere but we have a few fuel depots throughout the state and the one near the capital posts the price on the pump. E-10 was 1.395 and E-85 was 1.279.
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$1.64 in Liberty,MO yesterday.
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$1.60 in Liberty, MO on Friday, $1.64 same place on Sun. $1.84 at the Pilot next to the Iowa 80 Truck stop on Sun.
* - All of the above were after my $.03 discount for using my Pilot RV owners card. Happy Fistful? :P :P :P
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It was 1.99 when I left NC last week. It's easy to find 1.79 here in Dover-New Philli Ohio.
A couple of years ago I would have bet we would never see gas below 2. Surprisingly, people here are not happy about it, since the oil money has been a large economic force for the past 5 years, and as oil prices fall, all the exploitation business is drying up.
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Jumped to $1.75 overnight.
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Jumped to $1.75 overnight.
From what?
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Haven't seen what it is right now but the place I paid $1.25 for is in a price war with the Murphy/Wal-Mart across the street. This morning it was $1.64.
Not sure if it's just local, but the one here had $0.10/gallon off up to 15 gallons if you bought 3 20oz Big Red sodas for $4.75. I wanted a Big Red anyway, and my car only holds 12gallons so I got the gas for $1.439/gallon.
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Down to $1.93 at the local Raceway, $1.94 at the Wilco/Hess. $1.92/$1.93 was the last bottom. It's been dropping a penny or two every few days for a while. I wonder if we'll hit the previous low price?
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From what?
$1.65 I think.
Not sure if it's just local, but the one here had $0.10/gallon off up to 15 gallons if you bought 3 20oz Big Red sodas for $4.75. I wanted a Big Red anyway, and my car only holds 12gallons so I got the gas for $1.439/gallon.
The reward cards here work on a point system based on how much you spend at the grocery store. When you redeem you are held to a 20 gallon limit.
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We've dropped back below $2 a gallon at a lot of places in Northern Virginia. Of course, there's one station near me that's still $2.50 a gallon, an Exxon with no other stations on that strip for a couple of miles in each way.
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The reward cards here work on a point system based on how much you spend at the grocery store. When you redeem you are held to a 20 gallon limit.
If you've got the points, is there anything to stop you from shutting off at 20 gallons and starting again with the next batch of points?
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If you've got the points, is there anything to stop you from shutting off at 20 gallons and starting again with the next batch of points?
I think there's a timeout limit on transactions at one station on one card within one day.
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If you've got the points, is there anything to stop you from shutting off at 20 gallons and starting again with the next batch of points?
Once you swipe the card however many points that are on the card are used up. You then have to accumulate them again.
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Once you swipe the card however many points that are on the card are used up. You then have to accumulate them again.
Good reason for each person in the household to have a separate card and divide up the shopping list to put points on each.
Not that it would ever be relevant to me; the car only holds 12 gallons, and I rarely carry more than the 5 and 2 gallon can, so I max out at 19 plus what the filler neck holds.
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I paid $1.56 at Costco in Grand Rapids, MI today.
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West Texas Intermediate crude has broken below $40 a barrel, and it looks like it's going to stay there; down almost 5% for the day. Pretty much the same for Brent.
Even better, both gasoline and heating oil futures are down over 6 cents a gallon.
Unless something happens at the OPEC meeting Friday, I think we'll be seeing prices at the pump and home fuel oil tank dropping again.
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I'm heading to Charlottesville to a friends housewarming this afternoon. Going to be interesting to see what gasoline prices are. I've got about 130 miles range left on the tank of gas I have in the Outback, I'm thinking I'm going to hold off as long as I can to fill up.
There's a Sheetz on the way to Charlottesville that usually has pretty good gas prices.
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Holding steady in the mid to high 1.60's here.
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Bummer. Looks as if prices have tightened up considerably between here and there.
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$1.90 tonight. That's the lowest I've seen in many years.
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My favorite local station hit $1.91 today, two cents below the previous bottom. It's $1.89 just a couple miles up US321 in Caldwell County.
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I paid $1.82 at the Southern States station south of Warrenton, Virginia. Best I saw on the drive was $1.79.
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Oil, gasoline, and heating oil futures are dropping hard today.
The OPEC meeting Friday essentially turned into an untamed monkey circus, and adjourned in chaos.
A number of analysts are now predicting sub $60 a barrel oil into 2017 or even longer.
And the wheels are really starting to come off Venezuela's oil revolution.
Happy news on all fronts!
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$1.65 this week.
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Oil, gasoline, and heating oil futures are in absolute free fall right now. Oil's in the high $37 range, and gasoline and heating oil are both in the $1.20s per gallon range.
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I saw E-85 for $1.55 on I-35 near Ames, IA.
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$1.82 if I drive across the border into VA
$1.89 if I support the local station right by my house in NC
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Our trip from Michigan to Florida 10 days ago was a joy when it came to gas prices. Gas was under $2.00 all the way.
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Running $1.60 - $1.64 or so a gallon at the QT's around town.
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I filled up both vehicles at $1.65/$1.63 this week, but the price came up today.
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Dropped to $1.89 the other day at my usual station in Hickory, NC. I expect it will drop another couple of pennies in the next day or so.
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Jumped 15 cents or so overnight.
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1.76
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Jumped 15 cents or so overnight.
There was apparently a relatively minor issue at a refinery somewhere in the country, and the panicky investor monekys started flinging poo.
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Saw 1.90 for E-10 87 octane near my house.
Filled up the work car at the company pump for $1.11 for E-85. Of course that is the non Fed/Iowa road tax price.
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I paid $1.92 on Wednesday, drove past the same place yesterday and it $2.09.
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Paid $1.75 in Momence yesterday. Saw in the news that WTI is below $35bbl. And with sanctions coming off Iran in January, most expect it to go below $30bbl, as Iran increases production.
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WTI is above $36 right now, with a day gain of $1.01 a barrel at the moment. But it's been quite volatile, so that might not last. Or, it might skyrocket.
Seemingly innocuous bits of news are causing monkey madness on the commodities markets.
The one I'm particularly happy about is heating oil. It's at $1.14 and change a gallon right now on the futures market. It was in the lower half of $1.09 a gallon earlier. If this warm winter weather holds out in the North East (largest market by far) it should continue its downward trend very nicely.
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Hard to believe but it is 1.68 the last time I rode by the Claypool Hill VA Walmart. Several places in the low 1.70 range.
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It's really pissing me off that it's still so much more expensive in Northern Virginia.
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$ 2.07 this morning at the Arlington Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I paid $1.91 for 91 octane this morning, 87 octane was $1.61.
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This afternoon at a Murphy gas station in north TX, using a Walmart credit card (to get the $0.05/gal discount), I paid $1.57 for 87 octane.
Which is why, according to OPM, I'm not getting a COLA for 2016.
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I drove by a place in Lebanon TN that had regular listed at $1.64. The cheapest I've personally paid so far is $1.69 in Smyrna TN.
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$1.79 US 30, Ames IA
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We paid around an average of 1.95 from Mich to SW Florida. Now we're in KW. $2.35 a gal.
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$2.19/gallon at the Arlington Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I paid $1.59 today at Pilot in Lebanon TN. Saw the same price at other station in Murfreesboro. Most places around here it's running $1.63-$1.72ish.
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During the price hikes of a few years ago, prices on consumer goods and food rose. Will they fall again, or are they too sticky?
Grain prices are down too, making some farmers a bit nervous.
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During the price hikes of a few years ago, prices on consumer goods and food rose. Will they fall again, or are they too sticky?
Grain prices are down too, making some farmers a bit nervous.
If other commodity prices are any indication, no. Copper prices are now down by what, 40% from their last peak? Finished copper containing goods like wire haven't budged. I keep looking at SEU for installing a new meter base at the house, plus Cat6 cable for some network stuff. SEU actually increased over the last few months while commodity copper moved down significantly.
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The primary reason why wire prices haven't budged yet is because housing starts have been pretty steadily picking up, so there's not been a tremendous slackening of demand.
When something is based on a traded commodity -- copper is used to make pipe, wire, etc. -- those products don't fall in price nearly as quickly as when both the base product AND the finished product -- crude oil and gasoline -- are both market traded commodities.
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During the price hikes of a few years ago, prices on consumer goods and food rose. Will they fall again, or are they too sticky?
Grain prices are down too, making some farmers a bit nervous.
If input prices would drop it wouldn't be so bad.
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Gas dropped to $1.79 on Saturday at our usual stations in Hickory, NC. IIRC, that is a dime a gallon lower than last year's price dip.
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Gas prices are all over the board around here. While out and about they ranged from $1.97 (1.77 with car wash) to $2.27. If there's still a $.20 difference then I might just get a car wash when I fill up. Espscially since they have been salting the roads around here.
And then I came across this (http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-saudi-arabia-says-cut-flights-trade-iran-150946423.html).* Which will probably send gas prices every which way again. Up - due to more ME "tensions". And Down - due to SA and Iran trying to undercut each other on oil prices.
*- Dude in the picture does not look Arabic to me. My first thought was "He looks 'normal'." ;)
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I paid $1.57 just now.
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1.55 in town today.
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$1.95 still. We have a lot of local gas taxes though.
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I paid $1.57 just now.
And I paid $2.39 about 5 hours ago. :mad:
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It's been stalled in the $1.90 a gallon range here in Northern Virginia for the past month or so.
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Down to $1.49 a week or so ago, now at $1.59.
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I-35 at Clear Lake, IA
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/1923320_10103002511030790_6890364463864824764_n.jpg?oh=8d7c8cd6292a009d5f1973ef3e048939&oe=5719049E)
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WTI crude dropped $2.00 today to $33.97. Gasoline futures (RBOB) for February delivery dropped 9.49 cents today due to a wholly unexpected 10.6 million barrel build in stockpiles.
That should be good for prices next month.
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I didn't realize this thread was over a year old.
I filled up for $1.49 today. I bragged to my wife, and she said she got gas for $1.46. She said she saw $1.45, later on down the road.
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Gasoline has finally moved some at the stations in the area. The Citgo near my house dropped from $1.89 to $1.84. I expect the stations in Arlington to drop in the next few days.
I paid $1.689 for heating oil for my Mom this afternoon. Even better, heating oil futures are now below $1 a gallon.
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Gasoline has finally moved some at the stations in the area. The Citgo near my house dropped from $1.89 to $1.84. I expect the stations in Arlington to drop in the next few days.
I paid $1.689 for heating oil for my Mom this afternoon. Even better, heating oil futures are now below $1 a gallon.
Retail propane is under $1 per gallon.
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Retail propane is under $1 per gallon.
Wow. Time to top off.
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Retail propane is under $1 per gallon.
Say what? I'm not seeing anywhere in the country where retail propane is even close to that.
Wholesale, yes, it's averaging about 65 cents a gallon right now, but depending on the area of the country, retail propane is between $1.40 and $2.50.
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$1.49 here in the greater Tulsa area.
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$1.49 here in the greater Tulsa area.
Gasoline or propane?
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Lowest price in my area of operations is $1.95 as of 1/12. A few competing stations are ar $1.97, most are around $2.01.
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Say what? I'm not seeing anywhere in the country where retail propane is even close to that.
Wholesale, yes, it's averaging about 65 cents a gallon right now, but depending on the area of the country, retail propane is between $1.40 and $2.50.
It is here in Iowa, big news all over the state about it over the weekend. Now this is the price off the truck, small retail outfits that fill grill bottles are going to charge more because they don't go through inventory like the residential/commercial delivery folks do.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=W_EPLLPA_PRS_SIA_DPG&f=W
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Yeah, national retail prices are for home heating and water heating, not small tank prices.
Very interesting.
I may spring for a Buddy heater after all and get a 100 pound tank.
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Yeah, national retail prices are for home heating and water heating, not small tank prices.
Very interesting.
I may spring for a Buddy heater after all and get a 100 pound tank.
Ag marketers are urging farmers to buy propane now for next year's grain drying. When you go through 100,000+ gallons of propane for drying, nickels and pennies make a difference on your bottom line.
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Down to $1.84 now
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My propane tanks for the house were topped off on January 8th, and I just got the bill: $ 1.2491 per gallon. This is 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Jumped from 1.49 to 1.79, overnight.
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Filled up last night for 1.62.
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Buck eighty this morning,
Gainesville, FL
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Central CA, $2.45 for regular and diesel, except holy cow, diesel was $2.07 at Costco this morning. I usually shine on the line at Costco for the lousy couple of bucks, but for that cheap for diesel, I think I'm going to get in line.
I need to check and see what propane is right now. The guy didn't fill up the tank when he was out last week (which he usually does, once a month except in Summer) so I have to wonder if they're waiting to see if the price goes back up so they can charge more next month.
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I saw regular gas and diesel with matching prices this morning. 1.97 a gallon. I can't remember the last time I saw diesel below 2 dollars a gallon.
bob
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1.77 in Des Moines. Seems to have increased over the day.
Oil dropped hard today, I wonder if is a little run up on wholesale price to make a bit before a crash?
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Oddly enough, the price at the station near me went back to 1.89 a gallon (from 1.84.)
Don't understand that. Crude is down a helling, gasoline is right behind.
Only thing I can figure is it was a result of the draw down figures.
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On the propane, the guy came out yesterday afternoon and it was $1.92/gal delivered.
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I expect by next week, Costco will be paying me to take their gasoline.
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The QT app on my phone is showing prices in the Tulsa area running $1.41 - $1.46.
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I filled up on Monday and it was $1.91 ($1.95 before my $.04/gallon BP Card Discount)*. Price as I drove by today was $1.93. If it wasn't so damn cold I could get a car wash* and pay $1.73.
* - I'm Scout26 and this post is in compliance with Irwin Rule that requires any and all discounts to be clearly stated.
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On the propane, the guy came out yesterday afternoon and it was $1.92/gal delivered.
Got weird propane taxes?
Contracted price? Price off the truck?
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Got weird propane taxes?
Contracted price? Price off the truck?
Nope, that's the bulk price for a leased tank, local delivery. Delivery can add up depending on where you are relative to the facilities.
http://www.checkpropaneprices.com/
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Nope, that's the bulk price for a leased tank, local delivery. Delivery can add up depending on where you are relative to the facilities.
http://www.checkpropaneprices.com/
Damn...
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Paid $1.679 in Manassas, VA, on my way to scare hell out of Mtnbkr and family.
Cheap gas AND I got to terrorize people.
Win-win Sunday!
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Paid $1.679 in Manassas, VA, on my way to scare hell out of Mtnbkr and family.
Cheap gas AND I got to terrorize people.
Win-win Sunday!
$1.55 in Clear Lake tonight.
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Still $2.18 in KW.
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Wait for Iranian oil to hit the market.
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$1.38 north of Tulsa today.
While I like the low prices on gas it is playing hell on the Oklahoma economy.
Iran's oil hitting the market in a couple weeks will play even more hell with US producers. The question will be how long will they let the corpse of US production rot before they start cutting off the supply to jack up prices again.
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$1.38 north of Tulsa today.
While I like the low prices on gas it is playing hell on the Oklahoma economy.
Iran's oil hitting the market in a couple weeks will play even more hell with US producers. The question will be how long will they let the corpse of US production rot before they start cutting off the supply to jack up prices again.
Makes you wonder if that was Obama's plan all along with the pipeline. "See, if we had approved the pipeline, it wouldn't have been completed" or some malarkey.
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$1.38 north of Tulsa today.
While I like the low prices on gas it is playing hell on the Oklahoma economy.
Iran's oil hitting the market in a couple weeks will play even more hell with US producers. The question will be how long will they let the corpse of US production rot before they start cutting off the supply to jack up prices again.
Just checked the QT app and prices running $1.29 - $1.36.
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$1.38 north of Tulsa today.
While I like the low prices on gas it is playing hell on the Oklahoma economy.
I just heard a customer complaining about low fuel prices. You just can't win. Time for the conspiracy-mongering. Must be some Bush/Cheney/Haliburton/NRA/ISIS/Satan/FOX-News plot.
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At the BP I go past everyday, it was $1.85, $1.65 if you bought the car wash, which, if it wasn't -2F, I'd do. I've probably got another 2 days before I hit 1/2 tank and have to fill up.
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Makes you wonder if that was Obama's plan all along with the pipeline. "See, if we had approved the pipeline, it wouldn't have been completed" or some malarkey.
I'm pretty sure the president doesn't have that much power over oil prices.
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I'm pretty sure the president doesn't have that much power over oil prices.
I'll take that bet, I can imagine several scenarios where just a few words from him/her would drive prices up or down.
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I'll take that bet, I can imagine several scenarios where just a few words from him/her would drive prices up or down.
Which would be a momentary blip.
The president (any president) has the same control over oil prices as he does over the stock market, which is virtually none.
Far too many mouth breathers think that there's a great big valve in the Oval office, and at a whim the President can go in and turn it to control prices.
Oil, gasoline, and heating oil are internationally traded market commodities, the prices of which are set by the actions of market traders. Yes, they can be influenced by the words of a national leader, but unless that national leader is the head of one of the heavyweight oil producing nations, the influence isn't going to be all that dramatic.
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Which would be a momentary blip.
The president (any president) has the same control over oil prices as he does over the stock market, which is virtually none.
Far too many mouth breathers think that there's a great big valve in the Oval office, and at a whim the President can go in and turn it to control prices.
Oil, gasoline, and heating oil are internationally traded market commodities, the prices of which are set by the actions of market traders. Yes, they can be influenced by the words of a national leader, but unless that national leader is the head of one of the heavyweight oil producing nations, the influence isn't going to be all that dramatic.
Mostly agree, though there is the small valve connected to national reserves that can and has been turned on before. There's only so much a president can drain from the reserves though. I don't know what the maximum price effect that it can have time-wise is, but I would suspect not more than a year or so, and that would still be tied to market forces. I can't remember how big an effect it had when the last Bush did it.
Also, I think the strategic reserve valve only turns one way, to artificially reduce prices in a high market.
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Which would be a momentary blip.
The president (any president) has the same control over oil prices as he does over the stock market, which is virtually none.
Far too many mouth breathers think that there's a great big valve in the Oval office, and at a whim the President can go in and turn it to control prices.
Oil, gasoline, and heating oil are internationally traded market commodities, the prices of which are set by the actions of market traders. Yes, they can be influenced by the words of a national leader, but unless that national leader is the head of one of the heavyweight oil producing nations, the influence isn't going to be all that dramatic.
He's done a fantastic job of destroying the coal industry. :mad:
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He's done a fantastic job of destroying the coal industry. :mad:
Yep, and remember his goal was $8-10/gallon gasoline. Which is where we would be at if the Saudi's and the Iranians didn't hate each other with a passion...
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So, the question becomes.... How low can it go ?
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-boosts-oil-output-foreign-firms-eager-deals-180338769--sector.html
(Meanwhile, Venezuela continues to implode. 4 months is over/under on full blown civil war or a coup.)
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$1.69 when I filled up this afternoon.
Adjusted for inflation, that's pretty much the same price as the $1 gas that I was buying when I first started driving.
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47 cents a gallon in my parents' hometown, Houghton, MI.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-gas-station-hits-47-cents-price-war/story?id=36358859
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$1.29 for the most part now here in T-town.
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$1.429 last night. At this rate, going to Odessa (270 miles each way) for a weekend with the pretty lady there doesn't sound so bad. $50 would easily handle the gas.
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He's done a fantastic job of destroying the coal industry. :mad:
Cheap natural gas killed coal.
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47 cents a gallon in my parents' hometown, Houghton, MI.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-gas-station-hits-47-cents-price-war/story?id=36358859
Wow!
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$1.85/gal for Unleaded Plus last fillup here in Indy.
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Wow!
Yeah, except as of this morning, the price war is over and the price is back to the area-prevailing $1.50ish, according to national news.
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Yeah, except as of this morning, the price war is over and the price is back to the area-prevailing $1.50ish, according to national news.
Well, a buck fity is still "wow" territory compared to what I'm paying. :laugh:
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BP was a $1.85 last night on the way home and $1.83 this morning as I went by. I figure they'll be giving it away here in a couple of weeks.
I just need it to warm up so I can wash the road salt off my car and get an additional $.20 off per gallon.
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I can get non-ethanol premium for $1.75.
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$ 2.02/gallon unleaded this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle. I would not be surprised to see it below the $ 2.00 mark in the next few days.
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1.58ish now, plus or minus a couple cents depending what area you drive through.
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Mostly agree, though there is the small valve connected to national reserves that can and has been turned on before. There's only so much a president can drain from the reserves though. I don't know what the maximum price effect that it can have time-wise is, but I would suspect not more than a year or so, and that would still be tied to market forces. I can't remember how big an effect it had when the last Bush did it.
Also, I think the strategic reserve valve only turns one way, to artificially reduce prices in a high market.
More than a YEAR?
BBBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahah!
The last two releases from the reserve were in 2005 (Hurricane Katrina supply domestic pumping interruption) and 2011 (disruptions caused by the Arab Spring movement, and matched by a similar release by IEA nations).
In both cases the price of oil was trending sharply higher. The releases only slowed the upward spiral, and only for less than a week, if that.
The reality is that a release from the SPR will do nothing to contain oil when it's in a climb mode being fueled by level production and rising demand.
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More than a YEAR?
BBBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahah!
The last two releases from the reserve were in 2005 (Hurricane Katrina supply domestic pumping interruption) and 2011 (disruptions caused by the Arab Spring movement, and matched by a similar release by IEA nations).
In both cases the price of oil was trending sharply higher. The releases only slowed the upward spiral, and only for less than a week, if that.
The reality is that a release from the SPR will do nothing to contain oil when it's in a climb mode being fueled by level production and rising demand.
Hence why I said "small", NOT more than a year, and tied to market forces.
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Yep, sorry, I misread your post.
But still...
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahahahahha!
And WTI is, once again, falling like a stone. $27 and change a barrel right now.
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Prices jumped to $1.43 overnight.
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Yep, sorry, I misread your post.
But still...
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahahahahha!
And WTI is, once again, falling like a stone. $27 and change a barrel right now.
No problemo. Also, I wasn't promoting their use (not that you said I was). I think using the strategic reserves in that way is stupid. They're called strategic for a reason, so I don't like to see administrations using them for crap like temporary price relief for consumers. It's a short-term solution that ends up making free market corrections take longer.
If you were to calculate in the costs of dragging out a price rise by slowing it down, it might actually end up costing consumers more money.
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While people in the past have called for releases from the SPR to smooth out prices, the reality is that that has never been done.
The two most recent releases were done for strategic reasons relating to interruption of supply.
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While people in the past have called for releases from the SPR to smooth out prices, the reality is that that has never been done.
The two most recent releases were done for strategic reasons relating to interruption of supply.
Which is one of the very few reasons it should be opened up.
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A more routine transaction involves short-term borrowing from the reserve.
Companies can make withdrawals from the reserve to smooth out ripples in their supply and production schedules so that they don't have to reduce operations, or even shutter, a refinery. Shuttering a refinery is bad juju, because it can take weeks to get one fully operational again.
Those withdrawals are then "paid back" to the reserve from shipments.
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The two most recent releases were done for strategic reasons relating to interruption of supply.
Huh. I had thought Bush did it because foreign producers reduced what they were giving us for price control. I need to go back and read about it. I agree if there are infrastructure interruption reasons it should be carefully used.
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Nope.
http://energy.gov/fe/services/petroleum-reserves/strategic-petroleum-reserve/spr-quick-facts-and-faqs
There was one general release under the Bush Administration, in 2005 in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
This page has a list of SPR transactions: http://energy.gov/fe/services/petroleum-reserves/strategic-petroleum-reserve/spr-quick-facts-and-faqs
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47 cents a gallon in my parents' hometown, Houghton, MI.
Is it bad that I started thinking if I still had the Saturn (or better yet, the 45MPG Suzuki Swift I used to have) and enough cans, I could have made the trip worthwhile?
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Nope.
http://energy.gov/fe/services/petroleum-reserves/strategic-petroleum-reserve/spr-quick-facts-and-faqs
There was one general release under the Bush Administration, in 2005 in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
This page has a list of SPR transactions: http://energy.gov/fe/services/petroleum-reserves/strategic-petroleum-reserve/spr-quick-facts-and-faqs
Thanks!
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Currently 695.1 million barrels in the SPR, as of the 15th.
edited for forgetting the million :facepalm: :old:
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Currently 695.1 barrels in the SPR, as of the 15th.
That's not much of a strategic reserve...
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It's a freaking bloodbath all across the financial markets today...
West Texas crude is down over 7%, heating oil is down over 5%.
Early last year when it became evident that there was going to be a long-term down trend in oil prices, I NEVER though we'd hit this point. I thought we'd level off in the $45-$50 range.
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That's not much of a strategic reserve...
That was my first "WTH?" thought. Until I clicked on your link and saw it's the total in millions of barrels. :)
It looks like the current infrastructure capacity is 714 million barrels, so we're nearly topped out right now. I haven't found charts on historical averages yet.
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That's not much of a strategic reserve...
That was my first "WTH?" thought. Until I clicked on your link and saw it's the total in millions of barrels. :)
It looks like the current infrastructure capacity is 714 million barrels, so we're nearly topped out right now. I haven't found charts on historical averages yet.
fixed
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Gasoline futures are now at 101 cents and a few hundredths. It's conceivable that it will drop below $1 a gallon today or tomorrow.
Heating oil futures?
Well, they're at 85 cents and a few hundredths a gallon, and they're also continuing to fall.
I am saving so much money this year with Mom's home heating bills...
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The BP I pass every day was down to $1.79. $1.59 for the Car wash.
I'll be filling up tonight on the way home...
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OARP (Oil and related products) are stabilizing and rising today.
I think it's a blip.
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Went back and looked over this thread. The price of gas here (BP in Glen Ellyn) has dropped $.16 in 6 days. I've never seen it drop that much, that fast.
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Paid $1.73 at my usual station today on the way home from work.
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The station near my house was at $1.45 this morning.
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I am SO GLAD I chose to play quality guru at a company that makes oil and natural gas fracking equipment. :facepalm:
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So you'll have some time off to make a run to Illinois to pick up some lead? =D =D
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If things keep going the way they are, I'll probably have oodles of time.
"Come work for us, we'll meet your salary demand, good benefits, 401K, plenty of vacation, etc"
My commute is a whopping 5 minutes from the new house I bought last June.
And of course, it was all on the Bakken Shale boom, which was supposed to be "temporarily" deflated by the Saudis.
Thank goodness my military pension will cover the mortgage while I look for another McJob... :mad:
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Meanwhile in CA...regular gas in my area is $2.43-$2.75. Gas under $2 a gallon is only a myth out here. =(
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Meanwhile in CA...regular gas in my area is $2.43-$2.75. Gas under $2 a gallon is only a myth out here. =(
Yeah, but the rest of the country has such terrible gun violence. =)
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At the local Murphy diesel's $1.65, low octane is $1.55 - at least it was 2 hours ago.
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I've seen 1.37 and 1.38 at a couple of places, but $1.44 everyplace else.
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1.45 in clear lake iowa
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And it looks like the bottom is falling out of the market. Gas around here is down to $1.48- $1.52. Over the border in Indiana it's $1.42. There used to be a $.30-$.60 a gallon difference between the two states...
Oil was at $33/barrel and falling according to the news on the ride in this morning.
Doing some cyphering, if they could get 55gallons of gas from a barrel of oil, that's a cost of $.60/gal, figure refining, transport and taxes and "BIG OIL !!!" is making jack squat these days...
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Meanwhile in CA...regular gas in my area is $2.43-$2.75. Gas under $2 a gallon is only a myth out here. =(
And we're close enough here in Las Vegas that the effect carries on the breeze to us. :laugh:
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Down to $1.68 at a couple of the stations the wife and I use. The closest Exxon dropped two cents last night, and that usually leads our favorite stations dropping a cent or three by a couple of days.
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$1.69 at Kroger, but I used $0.50 of fuel points so it was $1.19.
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Today it is at $1.43 or so. Guy here at work used his discount points card the other day and got it at 58 cents.
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I filled up Monday for $2.239 a gallon cash price for regular (it's $2.339 if you swipe a card). I was feeling pretty good about that until...
Today it is at $1.43 or so. Guy here at work used his discount points card the other day and got it at 58 cents.
What?!? :O
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There is a convenience store chain, Quik Trip that has a promotion with the local grocery store chain that for every so many dollars you spend at the grocery store your get cents off a gallon of gas, up to 20 gallons.
There is no limit as far as I know as to the number of points you can accumulate, but once you swipe the card you lose the points and have to start over.
My daughter works at one of the grocery stores and she gets a 10% discount at the store and her purchases counts to for points. So we win both ways. =D
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Finally saw under two bucks in CA. $1.96 at Costco today.
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Giant Food in Washington, DC, metro has the same kind of rewards program with Shell, I think. I don't take advantage of it nearly as much as I should, but most of the Shell stations around me are a pain in the butt to get to and their prices are higher than most of the other stations.
The Safeway near me has its own fuel plaza, and you get rewards for shopping there that can be used at the fuel plaza, but I hate shopping at Safeway, so I rarely do unless I need something specific.
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1.409 at Mills Fleet Farm in Mason City, IA. 1.98 for 91 No E fuel.
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I paid a buck-fifty in Gary over the weekend.
And $1.43 here in Illinois.
I have never paid less for gas in Illinois then in Indiana.
The world has turned upside down....
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And $1.43 here in Illinois.
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I saw $1.38 again yesterday, but the going rate is 1.45 here right now.
And this morning, $1.38 everywhere.
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I paid 1.799 this morning at the station near my house. When I got into Arlington, the stations I see/use there had dropped from 1.839 to 1.779 overnight.
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Tuesday I paid $1.45 a gallon to fill up the rental car.
Today going past the BP in Glen Ellyn. $1.39.
Although oil prices rose slightly yesterday, back to over $30/bbl. Gasoline stocks are at all time highs and Iranian oil is beginning to flood the market.
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I paid $1.17 with rewards card last night, discounted down from $1.41.
Running $1.38 today.
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So, now that we're filling up cheaply, the White House wants to add a $10 surcharge to every barrel of oil. For the environment.
http://twitchy.com/2016/02/04/any-mention-of-unicorns-looks-like-obama-wants-to-take-us-for-another-ride/
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1.359 in mason city, ia.
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So, now that we're filling up cheaply, the White House wants to add a $10 surcharge to every barrel of oil. For the environment.
http://twitchy.com/2016/02/04/any-mention-of-unicorns-looks-like-obama-wants-to-take-us-for-another-ride/
I'm not well versed on things like this, but can the Emperor do that without going through Congress? Given what has happened the last 7 years, doesn't mean I don't think he won't try to.
I know he can't change the tariff rates, those are setup by Congress and petroleum products are too well defined in the Harmonized Tariff Schedule for Obama to start calling Oil "Elephant tusks" or some other such thing to get it bumped into a higher tariff category.
But can he use the EPA or perhaps some other minor agency to do to oil what he's doing to coal?
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$1.31 today.
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$ 1.81 this morning at the Everett Costco 25 miles north of Seattle.
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$1.26-$1.31 in the greater Tulsa area.
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$1.26-$1.31 in the greater Tulsa area.
Damn, nice. Lowest I've seen in Northern Virginia is $1.69.
It just broke below $2 a gallon in my areas of Pennsylvania.
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Dropped a penny overnight to 1.349.
Last year our state tax went up a dime, so it could be $1.249, so it also most to the average price range of 1980-2001.
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Damn, nice. Lowest I've seen in Northern Virginia is $1.69.
It just broke below $2 a gallon in my areas of Pennsylvania.
Down to a buck and a quarter.
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1.41 here
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Down to a buck and a quarter.
Where's that again?
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Where's that again?
Tulsa...Just checked around and in a couple of Kansas City suburbs on the Missouri side it is $1.21.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/31175411/gas-is-near-1-a-gallon-in-some-places
As you read the article is states that there is a place in OKC at $1.11 and most at $1.14.
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Sweet jeebus! I'm moving to the midwest!
Well, like hell I am.
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Tulsa...Just checked around and in a couple of Kansas City suburbs on the Missouri side it is $1.21.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/31175411/gas-is-near-1-a-gallon-in-some-places
As you read the article is states that there is a place in OKC at $1.11 and most at $1.14.
That's what I'm talkin' about.
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Sweet jeebus! I'm moving to the midwest!
Well, like hell I am.
you'd probably like after the 6 month long culture shock.
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This morning WTI crude is dropping hard, and is sitting just above $26 a barrel.
I really didn't expect that we would see that kind of price again in my lifetime.
Also this morning I passed the local independent cash-only station, where the price had dropped to $1.639. I stopped at one of my regular stations and topped my tank for $1.759.
Saw one analyst report yesterday that posited that gasoline will remain below $2 national average at least into 2017.
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you'd probably like after the 6 month long culture shock.
That's what my friends in Cedar Rapids keep telling me.
Funny, but I've been in Washington, DC, metro for almost 26 years now....
AND I'M STILL NOT OVER THE DAMNED CULTURE SHOCK!
But at least I can get really good Thai food.
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I filled up the company van for $1.209 this morning, radio was reporting $1.18 in Tulsa
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I filled up the company van for $1.209 this morning, radio was reporting $1.18 in Tulsa
Lowest I have seen so far is $1.19.
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1.36 here
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I'm shocked. Last I checked we were still $1.55
Usually we're pretty low on the prices for gas.
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1.289 in Mason City, IA. 1.55 in Ames, IA.
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In the $1.95 zone for several stations I drove by today. Once again the barrier is broken for "never thought I'd see below 'x' in CA". Going to Costco tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the $1.80s there.
Edit: Wow. Just jumped over to Gasbuddy for the heck of it. Costco and a bunch of the mini-mart places here are all at $1.79.
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Usually the local Murphy is $.05 to $.10 less than the Valero & Exxon, but today they're all the same at $1.47. Guess Murphy doesn't want to go any lower than that.
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Down in OKC yesterday and saw it at $1.15.
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Lowest price here in Mom's town is $1.88. Most of the stations are right around $1.95.
Crude, heating oil and gasoline futures have a rocket up their asses today.
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We are in Tucson for a week, and gas here is $ 1.50 plus or minus 5 cents a gallon. Except we also drove by a Wal-mart with a Wal-Mart gas station where it was $ 1.27 per gallon.
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Down in OKC yesterday and saw it at $1.15.
Party like it's 1999.
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Jumped to $1.29 overnight.
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$1.69 yesterday for 87 in Great Falls, MT
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Iran and Saudi's are talking about playing nice, hence the rise.
However, it's doubtful it will rise too much. Everyone is pumping as much as they can to make money. Russia, to prop up the ruble, American drillers are pumping just to cover their debt service, Iran needs cash to build infrastructure, and Venezuela is a basket case.
Prices will probably stay low for the foreseeable future...
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1.279 in mason city, ia. 20 miles west in Garner, ia 1.449.
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Down to $1.659 at the station near my house.
Which means that this weekend it will be $1.579, when the weekend bonus kicks in.
But remember, American didn't drill its way to lower gas prices. That's simply not possible.
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Heard a report on the radio this afternoon that prices are most likely as low as they're going to get, since it's almost time for the companies to start making the more expensive "summer blend".
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Heard a report on the radio this afternoon that prices are most likely as low as they're going to get, since it's almost time for the companies to start making the more expensive "summer blend".
That's right, it is almost time for the gas companies to switch from the more expensive winter blends to the more expensive summer blends.
Oh, wait...
(At least that's what we are told every season.)
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Looks like Saudi is going to start playing hardball. Looking at keeping production at January levels as long as everyone else agrees.
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Looks like Saudi is going to start playing hardball. Looking at keeping production at January levels as long as everyone else agrees.
Iraq and Iran will pick up the slack.
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That's the big if. The Iranians have already said that they're not giving up any attempt to capture market share, which is a pretty good indication that they're not going to be onboard with this any time soon and they're going to pump like hell.
And, the Russian-Saudi-Quatari-Venezuelan agreement was to keep pumping at January levels, which are just a skosh below record production territory, which is going to tend to keep the glut, well, glutty.
Then there's also the fact that coming out of February and overall oil demand drops pretty hard for two to three months until the start of the summer driving season.
Finally, Venezuela is in such desperate financial straits right now that their only true option is to pump as much oil as they can, even if it means the per-barrel price continues to go down, and they know that they're screwed on that front, too, because their production has been plummeting.
They're facing the perfect *expletive deleted*it storm that could literally drive them to collapse, all because everyone knows that the Socialist cronies of the president can do a MUCH better job at running an oil company than can those bourgeoisie capitalist pig "experts!" And maintenance money? Screw that, you don't need to maintain this stuff! Give it to the people in the form of more free *expletive deleted*it!
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Whelp... Iran just paid lip service to price supports, and the price of oil, gasoline, and heating oil are skyrocketing.
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In the $1.95 zone for several stations I drove by today. Once again the barrier is broken for "never thought I'd see below 'x' in CA".
Right after I filled up yesterday for $2.119, I saw a Shell station down the road that had regular for $1.90 if you get the $6 car wash, $2.05 without.
I'm standing up as I type this because I'm still kicking myself in the butt.
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Right after I filled up yesterday for $2.119, I saw a Shell station down the road that had regular for $1.90 if you get the $6 car wash, $2.05 without.
I'm standing up as I type this because I'm still kicking myself in the butt.
Need to leave Kalifornia and move to a "free" and less expensive state.
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I was out of town for three days and it's back up .20!
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Jumped another 10 cents overnight, now $1.39.
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Whelp... Iran just paid lip service to price supports, and the price of oil, gasoline, and heating oil are skyrocketing.
I have a feeling this is a short term bump, too many countries have oil dependent treasuries. They don't want any civil wars.
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Yeah, it's back up to $1.69-$1.79 around here also.
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Need to leave Kalifornia and move to a "free" and less expensive state.
Thinking about it. I heard Flint is cheap about now.
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Thinking about it. I heard Flint is cheap about now.
I know you have more integrity than to go live in a cesspool such as that.
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$1.299 this morning at Murphy, without a WalMart gift card.
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$1.59 at the two local stations we frequent.
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$1.559 this morning. The one local station has 6 cents off weekends and that carried over to this morning.
Oil's rising pretty hard this morning. IEA came out with a pretty pessimistic report on the state of shale oil and drilling rigs.
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OK, dropped to $1.559 at the closest station to me in the middle of the week, which means that it will be $1.499, or lower, Saturday.
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$1.69 in Dubuque, IA. I got tax free fuel yesterday, it was under a dollar a gallon at $.97
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It's running from $1.63 ($1.60 with the car wash) at Delta Sonic to $1.79 at various stations. It seems to have stabilized at that price for now.
Meanwhile Saudi Oil Minister goes to Houston and tells US and Canadian Oil Industry to FOAD.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/saudi-oil-minister-in-houston-1.3459539
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Saw it bumped to $1.49 this morning.
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Went by my favorite station at about 1:30 this afternoon on the way to a meeting at work. The price was $1.59. Passed by again on the way home at about 3:15 PM and it had jumped to $1.74. Immediately went and filled up across the street where it was still $1.61.
No idea if this is a temporary bump or a permanent trend upward. Most likely a refinery went into a meltdown or something.
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The local Murphy's been at $1.47 for the last 4 days, Valero & Exxon have stayed steady at $1.59.
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RBOB has gone from 0.92 to 1.07 over the last week or so. It's the refineries switching from the more expensive winter blends to the more expensive summer blends. Or they are shutting down for maintenance. Or someone accidentally spilled some gas at the local ARCO station. Who knows?
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Gasoline's starting to creep upwards in Northern Virginia.
The price of crude has risen a bit over the last few weeks, as have gasoline futures.
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$1.59 here in Tulsa
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Supposed to be taking a 20-30 cent jump here in the next couple of weeks as Summer blend comes back into play.
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Yep, when they replace the more expensive winter blend with the more expensive summer blend.
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Yep, when they replace the more expensive winter blend with the more expensive summer blend.
I just know what I read on Gasbuddy. :)
https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/California-Gas-Prices-Seesaw-on-Rocky-Seasonal-Switch/1715-638798-3588.aspx
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And another day off at the races. Oil is closing in on $40 a barrel and heating oil and gasoline are absolutely *expletive deleted*ing skyrocketing today.
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Gas jumped another 17 cents here today. In total we're up about 30 cents a gallon since we hit bottom at $1.54-$1.56 a few weeks ago. If the trend continues, we'll be back over $2.00 a gallon in two weeks.
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Jumped big time at the stations around me too.
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Sitting around $1.79 here.
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I think the summer blend is hitting the stations, and that's why the price has been jumping up randomly, and right after the most recent shipment.
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It jumped to $2.05 at a station in Newton where I buy lunch some days. It was $1.85 or so yesterday.
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The lowest priced station in my normal area of operations jumped from $1.73 yesterday to $1.77 today.
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About $1.43 a couple days ago.
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Same here at $1.79. Up from $1.49 about 10 days ago.
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Welp, national average is back over $2 a gallon, and more of the stations near my house have broken through the $2 mark.
Sigh.
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$1.79 87 E-10 Mason City, IA at Mills Fleet Farm.
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$1.85 to $1.95 here. (a lot more $1.95's than there was yesterday) Will probably break $2 next week.
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About $1.43 a couple days ago.
Ours started bumping up also.
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$1.85 to $1.95 here. (a lot more $1.95's than there was yesterday) Will probably break $2 next week.
I've been watching it drop slowly for the last week.
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I've been watching it drop slowly for the last week.
It dropped here from $1.88 to $1.85, then jumped to $1.95. (maybe the jump won't stick, that happens occasionally)
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It dropped from $1.85 to $1.79 here, then quickly bumped to $1.89. We will be over $2.00 in a week or so at this rate.
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The lowest priced station in my normal area of operations jumped from $1.73 yesterday to $1.77 today.
And it's up to $2.05 today ...
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Down a penny today to 1.78. I thought markets were closed today, so the price shouldn't of moved.
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Down a penny today to 1.78. I thought markets were closed today, so the price shouldn't of moved.
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Local prices depend more on when deliveries occur.
It's been hovering between $1.90 and $2.05 around here for the past couple of weeks...
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Local prices depend more on when deliveries occur.
It's been hovering between $1.90 and $2.05 around here for the past couple of weeks...
I'm also 6 miles from a pipeline terminal, so fuel tends to be a dime cheaper than other areas.
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1.69 and still dropping.
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$1.60 - $1.65
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*expletive deleted*it. We're in the 195 to 205 range.
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Dropped from $1.89 to $1.83 over the last two weeks
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*expletive deleted*it. We're in the 195 to 205 range.
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Yea, but you city folks get paid more than us county bumpkins, so you can afford it. =)
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$ 2.07 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of downtown Seattle.
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I paid $1.88 today here in Grand Rapids. On our return from KW last week gas was $2.30 in KW and went down to an average of $2.00 ($1.95-$2.05) once we got out of the Keys through Georgia/Alabama/Tennessee/Kentucky/Indiana and Michigan.
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It bottomed out here at around $1.76, it's back up to $1.83 and holding for the last week or so.
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Up to 1.79 today, it was 1.59 a week and a half ago.
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It jumped 16 cents to $1.99 here today. It happened during the time I had been called in to work on my vacation no less. Drove into work today and it was at $1.83. It was at $1.99 when I finally got smart and headed home to recover at least an hour of my vacation day.
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Up to $1.74 or so.
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Went up .11 from 1.68 to 1.79 yesterday.
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Jumped another dime to $2.09 today. That's 26 cents in two days. Oh, joy.
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Oil and gasoline futures have been on a frigging rocket the last week or so. Lots of freaking investor chimps who have taken a pummeling in the futures markets the last year or so just hoping beyond hope that oil producers are going to start setting production limits at the meeting coming up Sunday.
But none of them are taking into account Iran, which has categorically stated that they're going to do everything they can to pump their wells to capacity, and if anyone else surrenders market share by adopting quotas, they're going to grab it.
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Was at $1.89 this morning
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Production ceiling talks in Dhoa collapsed this afternoon after Saudi Arabia refused to agree to any deal that didn't include Iran.
Iran wasn't at the meeting, and has categorically stated they intend to pump as much crude as they can to capture market share after sanctions were lifted earlier this year.
This could get really sporty in the futures markets over the next couple of days...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-17/oil-freeze-talks-end-in-failure-amid-saudi-demands-over-iran
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Saw the news on Doha earlier. I wonder if current Nigerian and Kuwaiti output problems will temper any price drop on Monday? Granted the actual drop in production is probably minimal in total market terms, but speculators are easily spooked.
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Oil is down a buck and a quarter in early trading post Doha.
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1.759/gal regular at Super 1 Grocery, Shreveport, LA
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$2.09 in Waterman on Saturday. $2.19-$2.29 everywhere else.
Also saw an empty BNSF oil tanker train headed west bound....
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$1.82
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$ 2.05 this morning at the Arlington Costco, 40 miles north of downtown Seattle. Down two cents since last week.
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I don't understand this at all.
There's not even a hint of an oil output deal being finalized after it collapsed yesterday, there's no strong indications that oil usage is going to go up any time soon, and Iran is planning on pumping as much as they can, and the monkey brained aholes who do futures trading are trying their damndest to erase the losses in overnight trading.
There's simply no fundamental support for it. Oil should have continued its drop, and yet it's stabilizing.
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Oh hell, there's an oil workers strike in Kuwait.
That's what's providing the support today.
Damnit.
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1.829
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$1.96 yesterday
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Oh hell, there's an oil workers strike in Kuwait.
That's what's providing the support today.
Damnit.
Today being the operative word. Everyone is still pumping as much as they can as fast as they can for cashflow reasons.
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Oh hell, there's an oil workers strike in Kuwait.
That's what's providing the support today.
Damnit.
And some issues in Nigeria and Canada that are dropping their respective outputs for a while. I think all are contributing.
Kuwait's output is supposedly down by a third or more. I say "supposedly" because their oil folks are claiming otherwise. The accuracy of the information is questionable.
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Up to $2.09-$2.15 at the stations in my area, and the 'tardmonkey oil traders keep pushing everything higher.
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1.82 but seems over the last two weeks, it will bounce to 1.89 for three days then back down to 1.82.
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1.85
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Oil has climbed up to $44 a barrel. We'll see how the Saudi respond to USA industry re-start.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-energy-ceos-ready-drilling-oil-prices-plot-055502639--finance.html?nhp=1
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Shot to 1.92.
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In the last two weeks it's gone from ~$1.87 to $2.07.
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I'm more interested in seeing how the Saudis respond long-term to Iran's plans to pump like hell.
And then pump some more.
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Jumped 16 cents here overnight. Up to $2.29 at the local stations.
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We've been sitting in the 2.25-2.40 range here in Northern Virginia for the past couple of weeks.
The station near my house went up to 2.35, but yesterday dropped back to 2.29, which seems to be the average around here.
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Running $1.95-$2.00 range right now.
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$2.05
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$2.35 at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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The price out here ranges from $2.519 to $3.099.
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$2.65 yesterday. I found it interesting just now reading through the 30+ pages and seeing the price fluctuations.
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Aside from the holiday weekend price hike were sitting around 1.99 +/- a few cents.
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Gas was a couple bucks in April when we got home to Michigan. It was up to $2.53 the other day and today it was $2.48. About a 50 cent increase over the last couple months.
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Prices have gone up here, not too bad, only about $0.20/gal. Cheap stuff's around $2.19.
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Around here the average seems to be in the $2.50-$2.60 range. Most places offer $.20 per gallon discount with car wash and few give an extra $.05 for cash.
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Thought I'd resurrect this...
Gasoline in my area stalled in the high 2.20s to low 2.30s, and has started retreating.
Still in the mid 2.20s at most of the stations near my house, but yesterday I paid 1.999 per gallon in Mtnbkr's home town, which is about 15 miles from mine.
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I haven't bought fuel this month yet but I know it will cost me more than it did on June 30th. :(
Effective July 1, 2016, the Washington state rate for gasoline and diesel increases by 4.9 cents per gallon, to $0.494. New combined state and federal tax rates are as follows:
Gasoline: $0.678
Diesel: $0.738
bob
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$1.85-$1.88 or so
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I haven't bought fuel this month yet but I know it will cost me more than it did on June 30th. :(
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$ 2.35 at the Marysville Costco this morning, 40 miles north of Seattle. The same that I paid last week, before the increase in the state gas taxes.
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Its been hovering around $2.60 here for several weeks.
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Wow. Crude oil, gasoline, and heating oil futures are being absolutely savaged today.
WTI crude is down over $2 a barrel, and heating oil and gasoline are both down over 7 cents a gallon.
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We're around $2.03 a gallon, trending downward from about $2.19 a few weeks ago.
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1.93 for 87 e 10
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Ocala was $2.09 yesterday, and here in Gainesville, it's currently $2.12. Dropping a few cents per day. Never know when to fill up. lol
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Terminal prices in Des Moines was $1.39 for 87 e10, this is the wholesale no tax price.
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Last weekend in Indy I paid $1.85. Most places there were $1.85-$1.89 as I drove around.
Of course, up here in the Chicagoland area, it's $2.19-$2.29 where I live (higher in Cook County and even higher in Chicago proper.)
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Last weekend in Indy I paid $1.85. Most places there were $1.85-$1.89 as I drove around.
Of course, up here in the Chicagoland area, it's $2.19-$2.29 where I live (higher in Cook County and even higher in Chicago proper.)
We keep telling you to move to a place that has a little more freedom. Notice how the more free a location is the cheaper the gas.
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We keep telling you to move to a place that has a little more freedom. Notice how the more free a location is the cheaper the gas.
I'd suggest Virginia, but we seem to be moving away from freedom, currently.
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I'd suggest Virginia, but we seem to be moving away from freedom, currently.
Which makes South Carolina the obvious choice, obviously.
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Prices went the, opposite of what I'd expected for the 4th, a couple weeks before the weekend prices where around $2.20, the closer it got to the weekend the lower prices went. They bottomed out at $1.92 on the 3rd & 4th, they're back up to $1.95 today.
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Nice.
The prices in my area have barely budged.
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$2.15 to $2.19 cash price north of Boston.
Still around $2.25 in NH.
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$2.07 here in north florida this morning
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Running $1.75-1.80 for regular unleaded.
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Dropped 8 cents a gallon at the Citgo near me today.
$2.27 when I went to work, $2.19 when I came home.
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1.87, should drop more because of election of new PM.
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$2.33 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Paid $2.099 for 91 octane this morning for the bike.
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1.87, should drop more because of election of new PM.
Nope, OARP is up hard today.
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1,86
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Nope, OARP is up hard today.
Bastards
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And today it's losing much of what it gained yesterday.
Rollercoaster!
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We're back down below $2 a gallon. $1.99 at my usual station as of yesterday, but the Exxon across the street has dropped to $1.99 also. That usually presages another drop at my usual place.
Saw $1.94 over in Newton last night when I went for dinner before work.
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Prices have been slowly sliding the last couple of weeks in my area. Yesterday the Citgo near my house went from $2.11 to $2.05. The stations in Arlington that I talk about regularly have also dropped, but are in the $2.09-$2.11 range still. I figure it will be a couple of days before they drop, as well.
The crude and gasoline futures are taking a complete pummeling this afternoon.
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1.78 yesterday. It's supposed to be several cents cheaper on the south side of town.
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1.78 yesterday. It's supposed to be several cents cheaper on the south side of town.
Nice, 1.859 here
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$2.16 here in W. Michigan today. Odd thing last week. Gas was $2.32 here in Grand Rapids. We drove up to Charlevoix, Mi which is in the heart of wealthy money and tourism. (On Lake Michigan and a couple of the largest inland lakes are nearby, Lake Charlevoix right there and a couple others to the NE and SE. 100 foot lots go for a couple million) Gas was $2.16. Gas has to be trucked up there through the GR area and tankers are dry going back down. Go figger.
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Again I curse the influence of California on Southern Nevada. We've been bouncing around the $2.50 mark for a while now.
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Prices here are still dropping too. The cheap stuff at Murphy's is down to $1.829, diesel's at $2.039. The more expensive places (Valeros & Exxon) are advertizing $1.929.
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I paid $2.02 here in the lovely People's Democratic Republic of Illinois where the Sun is always shining. (we had set different Thunderstorms move through today dumping about 4" of rain in over 3 hours.)
All Hail Speaker Madigan !!!
Now that that is out of the way. =|
It's been hovering around $2.25-$2.30. I only paid $2.02 because I used my new Fuel Rewards card and got $.25 off per gallon. I need to explore how to earn fuel discounts with that card more....
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Saw $1.999 cash price in Saugus, MA last night. First time I've seen it below $2 in many years.
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Dropped a penny yesterday
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2.23 here at Moms.
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I paid $2.01 today at Sams Club, Jackson, Mi.
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Dropped a penny yesterday
Just keep looking. You'll find it. =)
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$1.88 here in Hickory today.
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Just keep looking. You'll find it. =)
Only if it is heads up.
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1.83
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$1.98 in several places in NH. Surprises me, since gas is usually high priced up here.
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Filled up Saturday about an hour from home for 1.76. Closer to home was low 1.80s. Been fairly steady around the house
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WTI crude dropped below $40 a barrel for a time today, and closed just above $40.
Gasoline and heating oil futures (very important to me, because Mom heats with fuel oil) dropped quite a bit today.
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Running around $1.79 here in the Tulsa area.
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And, gasoline and heating oil futures have gained quite a bit more today than what they lost yesterday.
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Now WTI futures are down 68 cents on the day, below $40/bbl at $39.38. Anybody's guess if it holds.
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Yep, OARP really turned around and dropped like a stone about an hour and a half ago.
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Saw 1.99 diesel at the filling station near my house.
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Saw Oil was at $39 and change today. Also an article the other day talked about how the technology of fracking is evolving and pushing the cost of fracking down. Thus American oil reserves are massive and obtainable for less money. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-a-standstill/
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I'm sure once president Hillary gets her hand in it fracking will be a thing of the past.
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Prices jumped 10 - 12 cents a gallon overnight.
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Prices jumped 10 - 12 cents a gallon overnight.
Where are you? What hell? New taxes kick in or something?
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Tulsa, and no....
Still running 1.89ish.
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$1.94 today. That is about the lowest I have seen it in Florida for many years.
going to go even lower, since fracking and shale oil have kicked the Saudi's butts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/31/texas-shale-oil-has-fought-saudi-arabia-to-a-standstill/
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Still 1.839
K- 1 is under $3 at 2.99
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$2.25 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.05 at the Hugo Chavez Mart near my house.
$2.07 around the corner at the Shell.
$2.59 at that station I've talked about before, the one near where I shop, and the only gas station on that stretch for a couple of miles. I laugh every time I pass it.
That kind of crap may have cut it in the old days, but now days it's...
(driver running low on gas)
Siri, I need gas, and there's a VERY expensive Exxon right here. Tell me where there's a station close that's NOT run by wallet robbing arseholes...
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Murphy's was $1.87, Valero & Exxon were $1.92 for the cheap stuff. Didn't notice the price of diesel.
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Paid $1.859 in Mtnbkr's town last night.
Finally saw it below $2.00 nearer my place. If things keep going, it should drop below $2 at the Hugo Chavez-o-mart near my house in a few days.
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Up to $1.99 in the Tulsa area.
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$2.29 for 87 with ethanol last night. Lots of local gas taxes here...
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I don't understand gasoline pricing at all.
The lowest price I've seen in the last week or ten days in my usual area of operations is $2.04, at a station that sells name-brand gas and is one of a regional chain of convenience stores. Today I went by another outlet of the same chain, about 15 miles north, and their price was $2.26.
Tuesday, I went to a meeting upstate, about 25 miles from home as the crow flies. Entering town from the west, I went by four or five stations that were all at $1.98. I stopped and filled up at one that's a regional brand name. On the other side of the same town, not more than three miles away, another station of the same brand was at $2.06.
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$1.91 near the terminal, 2.09 elsewhere.
I have a pipeline terminal 7 miles from my house.
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Price dropped to 1.999 at the Citgo near my house.
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Price went up a dime overnight here in Hickory.
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Paid 1.73 in SC over the weekend.
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Back up to $2.05 at the Citgo this afternoon.
Futures rose HARD yesterday, and rose again today.
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Is Venezuela even pumping, much less shipping, oil these days?
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2.10 for e-10 at the COOP in Hanlontown, IA. 1.39 for e-85
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Everything jumped 11 cents overnight to about $1.99. I think the refineries are starting to shut down for seasonal maintenance.
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I was in Pennsylvania this past weekend. Prices along the way ranged from $2.13 to $2.29 in Mom's town.
Yesterday I saw $1.99 at one station in Arlington, VA, in the afternoon. By the time I drove past again yesterday evening, the price had gone up 6 cents.
All of this is a response to the recent run up in oil prices caused by the panicky f*expletive deleted*tards stampeeding to buy oil when Saudi Arabia said "well, maybe a setting some controls would be a good thing..."
Of course, those buttmunches are totally ignoring Iran, which has repeatedly said "Go ahead, you infidel-loving pig mongers! Freeze your production and we'll waltz in and take over your market share!"
And, now, all of a sudden there's some REALLY ominous supply news coming out of China, the peak gasoline/oil usage season in America ends in a few weeks, more American rigs are reopening, and all those monkey *expletive deleted*ers are going "OMG! I was a fool! Why don't these buildings have windows that open so I can leap to my shameful death?"
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2.10 for e-10 at the COOP in Hanlontown, IA. 1.39 for e-85
$1.39? Wow, ethanol is cheap subsidized!
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$1.39? Wow, ethanol is cheap subsidized!
It's Iowa. Everything is made out of corn, and is heavily subsidized.
You should see their sex shops.
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And, I have no clue what the hell has hit the markets, but OARP has, in the last 40 minutes, done a complete 180 from strongly down to strongly up.
Goddamn it.
Oh hell...
The Iranians are indicating that they may be willing to play ball with production output limits...
*expletive deleted*it. Prices are going to rocket through the close today.
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It's Iowa. Everything is made out of corn, and is heavily subsidized.
You should see their sex shops.
Especially the Amish run ones.
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$1.39? Wow, ethanol is cheap subsidized!
POET biorefinery is across the hwy from that particular pump. Why it is so cheap, at least .20 higher elsewhere.
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It's Iowa. Everything is made out of corn, and is heavily subsidized.
You should see their sex shops.
I've been to the Naughty Niblet.
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I've been to the Naughty Niblet.
:rofl: :rofl:
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Especially the Amish run ones.
Sheep powered vibrators? Are you in Iowa or West Virginia?
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Sheep powered vibrators? Are you in Iowa or West Virginia?
Just an ear of dent corn.
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"dent corn"
Pleasure Pockets!
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"dent corn"
Pleasure Pockets!
Or....
(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server3500/faf06/products/435/images/3543/_57_2__86291.1441824401.1280.1280.JPG?c=2)
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I don't recall if we've brought it up before in this thread, but when people are posting prices for regular, are we assuming 87 octane unless someone specifically states 85? Until I take trips out of state, I always forget that you can get 85 as regular in a lot of places, and 87 is mid-grade in those states.
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The Lesbaru is optimized for 87 octane. I put 89 in once and lost about 6 MPG. That was an expensive test.
Paid $2.02 in Waterman, IL last weekend after teaching Hunter Safety Ed.
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I don't recall if we've brought it up before in this thread, but when people are posting prices for regular, are we assuming 87 octane unless someone specifically states 85? Until I take trips out of state, I always forget that you can get 85 as regular in a lot of places, and 87 is mid-grade in those states.
87 with 10% ethanol is the gasoline I have been giving a price for. 87 sans the ethanol is about .30 more per gallon.
We used to have 87 sans E, 89 with 10% E and 90-92 with or without E. A few years ago, they said the 89 10E was too expensive to mix 87 + 10% E, so they went to 85 base and added 10% to bring it up to 87. 89, 90 and 92 octane went away, now we have 91 and it varies from station to station is it is pure gas or 10% E.
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Everything in Illinois and Indiana is 10%E. I think the only place you can get sans ethanol go-juice is at a marina or the like.
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87 with 10% ethanol is the gasoline I have been giving a price for. 87 sans the ethanol is about .30 more per gallon.
We used to have 87 sans E, 89 with 10% E and 90-92 with or without E. A few years ago, they said the 89 10E was too expensive to mix 87 + 10% E, so they went to 85 base and added 10% to bring it up to 87. 89, 90 and 92 octane went away, now we have 91 and it varies from station to station is it is pure gas or 10% E.
In CA we have 87 (up to 10% ethanol),89,91 (or maybe 92?). Don't know if we have any other octanes in BFE locations. Those are what I normally see off the highways, etc. I know there are E85 stations around, but I don't think that many. I remember back at work the enviros always wanted to use E85 but there were never any stations near the office.
In Idaho a lot of pumps have four gasoline grades: 85,87,89,91 (or maybe 92, I can never remember the top in these parts).
I used to use 85 in the Trooper when on road trips and it ran fine. I haven't tried it in the 4Runner, and the new truck with the turbos has an 87 minimum.
But back to my original point, depending on the octane and composition of the regional "regular", I reckon that's going to affect a lot of our comparisons here.
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Odd... at the Citgo station near my house the price went from $2.03 to $2.09 on Monday...
As I was passing by this morning, I noticed that the price was back to.... $2.03.
And yes, 87 octane.
I don't think that they sell 85 in Virginia or most of the East Coast. Maybe in the agricultural regions...
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Here in Tulsa it is 87, 89, and 91.
Use 87 in everything but the bike which gets 91. The bike will run ok on 87 but I get better mileage using 91.
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Odd... at the Citgo station near my house the price went from $2.03 to $2.09 on Monday...
As I was passing by this morning, I noticed that the price was back to.... $2.03.
And yes, 87 octane.
I don't think that they sell 85 in Virginia or most of the East Coast. Maybe in the agricultural regions...
85 octane is usually found at higher elevations, I only see it in the Rocky Mountain West.
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Price here in Tulsa jumped from $1.99 to $2.09-$2.12 overnight.
Guy at work used a rewards card and paid 63 cents a gallon yesterday, 20 gallon limit.
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$2.29 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Been rising here in Northern Virginia.
The stations near Castle Key's house are all in the $2.12 to $2.19 range.
The Citgo near my house was $2.03 (weekend price) and $2.09 weekday price for the last few days.
The Sunoco around the corner from it is a few cents higher.
I used grocery store rewards points at a Shell on Saturday to bring the price down to $1.999.
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$2.19 in Waterman, IL yesterday after Hunter Safety class.
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The price of regular at the cheapest station I frequent was $2.359 a gallon last Friday morning. When I went there after work Friday night, it had jumped to $2.459.
Did a butterfly flap its wings in the Middle East again?
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There is some really weird stuff going on with gasoline prices here in Northern Virginia.
The station near me is currently sitting at $2.14. It's been bouncing around like mad the past few weeks, but has been trending upward.
The one station near CastleKey where I'll get gas was at $2.15 a week ago, and is now at $2.03.
Oil prices have been bouncing around lately -- they shot up last week when Saudi Arabia and Russia started getting all huggy and kissy and started talking about production limits...
Of course the monkey brained aholes who trade crude started pissing their pants that "OMG! OIL'S GOING TO GO UP AND UP AND UP AND NEVER COME BACK DOWN AGAIN!!!" and drove the price up accordingly.
Then reality set in, nothing came out of the OPEC meetings or the Borscht-Sand Dune confederation, and prices have been pulling back.
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Filled the company car for $1.88 overnight, Just North of Tulsa.
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There is some really weird stuff going on with gasoline prices here in Northern Virginia.
The station near me is currently sitting at $2.14. It's been bouncing around like mad the past few weeks, but has been trending upward.
The one station near CastleKey where I'll get gas was at $2.15 a week ago, and is now at $2.03.
Oil prices have been bouncing around lately -- they shot up last week when Saudi Arabia and Russia started getting all huggy and kissy and started talking about production limits...
Of course the monkey brained aholes who trade crude started pissing their pants that "OMG! OIL'S GOING TO GO UP AND UP AND UP AND NEVER COME BACK DOWN AGAIN!!!" and drove the price up accordingly.
Then reality set in, nothing came out of the OPEC meetings or the Borscht-Sand Dune confederation, and prices have been pulling back.
Also 3 more billion barrels of crude was discovered in Texas.
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Also 3 more billion barrels of crude was discovered in Texas.
But that was offset by some dork in Nebraska accidentally spilling a quart of oil in his driveway.
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Also 3 more billion barrels of crude was discovered in Texas.
Once the Hillary is in power I'm sure she/it/they will find a way to stop all that nonsense
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But that was offset by some dork in Nebraska accidentally spilling a quart of oil in his driveway.
:rofl:
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But that was offset by some dork in Nebraska accidentally spilling a quart of oil in his driveway.
That seems to be a hell of a lot closer to the truth than not these days!
I wonder how oil prices are going to be affected by the guy who blew his engine and coated my Subaru with a fine oily mist this morning?
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Don't forget the shenanigans up in NorDak with the pipeline.
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Price on the local Citgo station near my house dropped from $2.14 to $2.05.
Prices in Arlington are scraping $2 again.
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Don't forget the shenanigans up in NorDak with the pipeline.
Warren is making his money with rail.
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Warren is making his money with rail.
I saw a pic on FB of all the protestors. Looked like there was at least 40 acres of 'em. My first thought was " A couple JDAM's or several rounds of DPICM would sure solve a lot of this country's problems..."
Meanwhile I paid $2.09 because I needed a car wash anyway and that "saved" me $.20/gallon
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I saw a pic on FB of all the protestors. Looked like there was at least 40 acres of 'em. My first thought was " A couple JDAM's or several rounds of DPICM would sure solve a lot of this country's problems..."
Meanwhile I paid $2.09 because I needed a car wash anyway and that "saved" me $.20/gallon
That picture floating around is of Woodstock.
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That picture floating around is of Woodstock.
The sentiment stands.....
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The sentiment stands.....
I'm just happy we live in a country where people can protest without being shelled by the government.
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Gas jumped 18 cents this afternoon in Hickory. The pipeline break in Alabama is already having an effect.
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I'm just happy we live in a country where people can protest without being shelled by the government.
I'm willing to do it myself... ;)
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Gas jumped 18 cents this afternoon in Hickory. The pipeline break in Alabama is already having an effect.
We had a little jump followed by a bigger jump in the last day or so and average seems to be about 2.09.
And some stations have actually ran out of gas.
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Gas jumped 18 cents this afternoon in Hickory. The pipeline break in Alabama is already having an effect.
Not here, still 1.98. Will fill up tomorrow because Monday it will jump.
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There are reports of stations in the area running out of gas. The latest news story I read today says the pipeline is still weeks away from being operational.
I need to fill the truck as I'm down to a quarter tank.
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Still 2.09 this morning when I ran to the store. Station that ran out yesterday was still out when I passed it on the way to the store. Was getting a delivery when I passed it about fifteen minutes later on the way home.
Looks like any outages should be temporary and most if not all of the effected states have waived driving hours rules for delivery trucks, which should make getting gas trucked in a bit easier and more reliable.
We've assumed no reason to panic, but fill it up at a half tank or top off when reasonable and we see a good price protocols. I fully expect if stations running out of gas becomes a little bigger problem, that there will be more issues with idiots swarming a station every time they see a tanker making a delivery than actual problems caused by the disruption in the pipeline itself.
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1.96 for 87 e10 today, filled up today because prices my shoot up tomorrow nation wide when the markets open.
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Prices around here range from $2.01 at the Speedway on North Ave near I-355 to $2.39 at a Shell on Rt53 in Lisle. (with a BP across the street at $2.25 ;/)
The place local to me are all $2.27-2.39.
So there is no "gas panic" around here. Does anyone know who owns (and is a big donor to the Dems) CSX and will be getting rich off of shipping POL by train ??
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Prices around here range from $2.01 at the Speedway on North Ave near I-355 to $2.39 at a Shell on Rt53 in Lisle. (with a BP across the street at $2.25 ;/)
The place local to me are all $2.27-2.39.
So there is no "gas panic" around here. Does anyone know who owns (and is a big donor to the Dems) CSX and will be getting rich off of shipping POL by train ??
CSX is a publicly traded company. Are you sure your not thinking of BNSF?
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CSX is a publicly traded company. Are you sure your not thinking of BNSF?
Yes, I know that Warren Buffet owns BNSF and managed to convince two of his favorite donee's to oppose various pipelines. Since this latest POL problem is in the southeast and that's CSX's territory, I was wondering if another big Dem donor had a controlling or large interest in that railroad.
When you have to explain the joke...
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Yes, I know that Warren Buffet owns BNSF and managed to convince two of his favorite donee's to oppose various pipelines. Since this latest POL problem is in the southeast and that's CSX's territory, I was wondering if another big Dem donor had a controlling or large interest in that railroad.
When you have to explain the joke...
Wasn't a very good joke.
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Gas around here is in the $2.07-$2.33 range (although you can get $.20 per gallon for a car wash at the higher priced places.)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-idUSKCN12O02S
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Been meaning to kick start this thread...
Prices in my neck of Virginia are now pretty well settled in at the $2.19 -- $2.25 mark. They've come down a few cents in the last few days.
Not sure when the switch is from the more expensive summer blend to the more expensive winter blend...
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It's been right around $2.50 here for weeks if not a couple of months by now.
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1.959 here
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Right around $2.00- $2.04
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Gas prices here have been odd, the past week. Most stations are at ~2.12. There's just a few that are at ~1.96 (and a whole bunch that are at 1.75, down south of town). There's two gas stations on either side of the road from each other, and they've been at 2.12 and 1.96 for a week.
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The two gas stations I pass by daily (Brookshires (grocery) & Murphy) usually have the same prices. Prices at both have been jumping around the last week - up to $2.05, next morning down to $1.95, next morning back to $2.04 and again back down to $1.94. Today it was back up to $2.07.
Of course I needed gas on the day it was at $2.05.
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Gas prices here in the KC area are running $1.95 - $2.05 range depending on which side of the state line you're on. Taxes a little less on the Missouri side.
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Colonial pipeline workers managed to blow up their pipeline yesterday in central Alabama. This time it was about a mile from where the same pipeline broke in September, driving gas prices much higher in the SE.
Seven workers were injured, hopefully not too seriously, but there is no word on their conditions. Homes were evacuated up to three miles from the site of the explosion.
Prices still haven't recovered to their original levels from the last time that pipeline went down.
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Yep...
Wholesale gasoline prices this morning are up almost 16 cents per gallon at the moment.
Going to see that reflected in the pump price today or tomorrow.
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Yep...
Wholesale gasoline prices this morning are up almost 16 cents per gallon at the moment.
Going to see that reflected in the pump price today or tomorrow.
Yikes is right. Definitely filling up the truck's 36 gallon tank this morning.
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Meanwhile, here in the midwest prices have dropped to around $2.15 today...
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Meanwhile, here in the midwest prices have dropped to around $2.15 today...
$1.929 for the last couple days.
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$1.94 - $1.99 depending on which side of the state line.
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$2.019 per gallon here in Decatur AL. this afternoon. That for the 87 octane stuff.
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It looks like this explosion might not have the legs that I thought it might.
Gasoline futures were up almost 20 cents in mid-day trading yesterday, but by afternoon had started falling and ended up with only a minimal gain.
This morning futures are down over two cents a gallon.
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Gasoline, crude, and heating oil futures are getting pummeled today.
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$1.76
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I paid $2.01 at a station near Mtnbkr's place yesterday.
At the station near my house it's still $2.15 (2.09 weekend price), and still in the $2.20s near Castlekey's house.
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No spike here from the pipeline disruption. Interesting.
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I was kind of surprised, too.
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Still going down, 1.899
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$2.41 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Quite surprised, no spike here in Hickory, NC after the pipeline explosion. It's supposed to be back online today. Haven't seen any updates to confirm, though.
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Down in Tulsa over the weekend for drill and was seeing prices a low as $1.74.
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$2.159 last... Friday? Up in MD on my way home from work, a Sunoco about a mile off the Beltway on 29. It's usually higher there than at home in Fairfax, but has been at or below Fairfax prices that I've seen for a week or two now.
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Filled up the company car for $1.80 a gallon overnight.
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$1.64 here.
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$1.64 here.
Nice.
1.829 here
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Dropping again here. $1.99 yesterday at our two usual stations, down from $2.03.
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OARP has been dropping since the election. Apparently even bets right now that the Saudi brokered production deal is going to fail and crude is going to go back below $40 a barrel.
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$ 2.29 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.07 tonight
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Interesting station near my office in the Springfield/Newington area of Virginia. At night, the price for gasoline goes up 10 cents, and is currently $2.49 a gallon. When I pass it on my way home in the afternoon, it's $2.39 a gallon.
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OARP has been dropping since the election. Apparently even bets right now that the Saudi brokered production deal is going to fail and crude is going to go back below $40 a barrel.
Saudi's are probably trying to figure out how to get their $25M back that they backed Hillary with.
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OARP turned around yesterday and futures on crude, gasoline, and heating oil were screaming hot.
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1.819
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$2.25 at my local Valero (high quality regional place) right now. I'm quite surprised that a CA gas price is comparable to what some of you from other states are posting. In general, we always seem to be 20-30 cents higher than the next highest state. In fact looking at gasbuddy, I'm even seeing Chevron and Shell prices about fifty miles East of me down to $2.10.
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Supposedly according to a news article another 40 billion barrels of oil was discovered in Texas.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/article114931993.html
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Boy have I seen a HUGE variance in prices in Northern Virginia the last couple of days....
Right now the Citgo near my house is $2.07.
The Sunoco, Shell, Libery, and BP near CastleKey's house are in the $2.11-$2.15 range.
The Exxon I've mentioned a number of times, the one near where I shop, is at $2.59.
But the winner of the "Are you out of your *expletive deleted*ing mind" price is the Exxon station on Dolly Madison Boulevard in McLean, Virginia, near the entrance to the CIA campus and the George Washington Parkway. It's the only station for several miles, so they think the have a captive audience, I guess...
They want $3.19 a gallon for regular unleaded, and $3.69 a gallon for premium. Those are both, by far, the highest prices in the entire Commonwealth. My guess is that they have the concession to fuel the CIA fleet, so they are taking advantage of it.
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According to Internet, gas is in the $1.50s, just south of St. Louis. Here on the north side, it's in the $1.60s.
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OARP has been heading back up the last few days.
More rumblings about OPEC finally working together as a unit to limit production.
Absolute fantasy, if you ask me.
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OARP has been heading back up the last few days.
Ohio Association of Radon Professionals?
$1.95 this AM, it's been $2.02-2.05 recently.
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"Ohio Association of Radon Professionals?"
We've had that discussion.
It was found to be.... lacking....
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The local Murphy & Brookshire's (grocery chain) have dropped $0.12 in the last week - they were at $1.99, today it's down to $1.87 for the cheap stuff. Even the Exxon & Valero stations are down to $1.95.
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$1.649 this morning north of Tulsa.
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$2.05 at the Citgo near my house.
Tomorrow it will be $1.99 with the 6 cent weekend discount.
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$1.82 at the Shell at Roosevelt and Kirk Rds in Geneva yesterday. I almost crashed as I couldn't believe it was below $2.00
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And gas is still dropping here too. The cheap stations are now at $1.83, the expensive stations are $1.86. It's strange that the Exxon & Valero at only $0.03 above the other two, normally they're closer to $0.10 more.
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In Indy this weekend, I paid $1.97. Most places were $1.95-$2.05. Costco was $1.84.
Back in Chicago, it's $2.20 +/-$.10
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$1.97, is the cheapest here in Gainesville FL
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Doesn't seem to be a Tday weekend pop here (yet). I paid $2.27 this morning. About the same as it has been the last couple of weeks.
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We just got back from Tyler TX (50 mi from here). Just off Hwy 20 is a Race Trac and Murphy's - both of which were selling the cheap stuff at $1.69.
The Chevron station in town (4 mi away) was at $2.29.
We filled up in Tyler.
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Paid $1.92 yesterday on the way to church.
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I'm going to tank up this morning as I leave town. Looks like it's still $2.05.
Probably 30 to 40 cents more a gallon in Pennsylvania now that they've got a full-bore communist as governor.
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Creeped back up to 1.899
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And dropped a dime this am. 1.789
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Jumped to 2.09 this morning.
2.45 here in Mom's town.
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2.09 for regular at the Arco I passed yesterday.
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On my way back yesterday I paid $2.29 a gallon. Once you get out of Mom's county the price drops by over 10 cents a gallon, or more, depending on where you are. Never understood that.
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And back up to 1.859
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I saw $1.72, yesterday. De Soto, MO, I think.
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On my way back yesterday I paid $2.29 a gallon. Once you get out of Mom's county the price drops by over 10 cents a gallon, or more, depending on where you are. Never understood that.
Perhaps that county has a gas tax?
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Perhaps that county has a gas tax?
No. No independent county/town fuels taxes in Pennsylvania.
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OARP took a big hit last week, and today it's trying to recover everything it lost.
On the plus side, the price at my local station dropped a dime today, to $1.99 a gallon.
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Gas jumped 18 cents this area today. Granted it's a little early, but I wonder if it is in response to the rise in oil prices and the OPEC production cuts.
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Gas prices in the KC area seem to be running $1.89 - $1.99 a gallon depending on which side of the state line you are on.
Missouri having the cheaper prices due to less taxes.
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OPEC reached an agreement today to start cutting production in an effort to bring the glut down.
Oil, gas, and heating oil futures went through the roof.
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I like this article!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oil-price-rally-likely-short-lived-opec-deal-102013182--finance.html?ref=gs
Essentially it says that the price spike is not going to last because the cuts that OPEC enacted, if they are followed to the letter, aren't enough to end the glut AND it's likely that the price rise will, in the short term, lead to reactiviation of US wells that had been shuttered due to low prices.
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Price jumped 10 cents a gallon at the station near my house, to 2.09.
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3 cents up here to 1.879
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$ 2.21 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I paid $2.03 a gallon this morning at the Sunoco station in Arlington on my way to Castlekey's to drop Seren off for daycare.
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Prices had been slowly dropping around here. Wednesday I filled up at one of the two lowest price stations in my area of operation. Today (Friday) at 06:30 a.m. the price at one was up 4 cents since Wednesday evening. I'm sure that's due to the OPEC announcement, but it's obviously an artificial bump because the oil that will really be subject to the higher OPEC prices is still in the ground.
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And this evening the Citgo near my house is back down to $2.05.
And tomorrow, it will go back down to $1.99 with the 6 cents off weekends they do.
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Prices had been slowly dropping around here. Wednesday I filled up at one of the two lowest price stations in my area of operation. Today (Friday) at 06:30 a.m. the price at one was up 4 cents since Wednesday evening. I'm sure that's due to the OPEC announcement, but it's obviously an artificial bump because the oil that will really be subject to the higher OPEC prices is still in the ground.
And at 5:45 Friday evening the price at that same station had jumped another 6 cents. That's 10 cents in 48 hours.
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Left W. Michigan on Monday for Ft. Myers Beach. Gas was around 2.20. Went through Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida on old federal hiways, state roads and county roads. Arrived yesterday, Thursday. Gas outside of Michigan went from around 2.19 to 1.99 and averaged around 2.09 most of the time.
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$2.30's here in the Western Suburbs of Chicago.
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Prices had been slowly dropping around here. Wednesday I filled up at one of the two lowest price stations in my area of operation. Today (Friday) at 06:30 a.m. the price at one was up 4 cents since Wednesday evening. I'm sure that's due to the OPEC announcement, but it's obviously an artificial bump because the oil that will really be subject to the higher OPEC prices is still in the ground.
I don't get why people expect the oil/gas already purchased to remain at the lower price. If the commodity is worth more, it's worth more, right? What does it matter if it was worth less before? What's artificial about the price increase?
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I don't get why people expect the oil/gas already purchased to remain at the lower price. If the commodity is worth more, it's worth more, right? What does it matter if it was worth less before? What's artificial about the price increase?
Only that when the price of oil drops, the price of gas already in the pipeline does not fall immediately. The hysteresis only works in one direction.
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Only that when the price of oil drops, the price of gas already in the pipeline does not fall immediately. The hysteresis only works in one direction.
Exactly. It's the old addage of up like a rocket, down like a feather.
The retail gasoline market has very thin margins.
When the price goes up, companies are quick to raise the price because they make more on the gasoline that's on hand.
When the price goes down, they don't want to drop the price quickly because then they'd be upside down on the gas that they have on hand.
It's not uncommon at all to see the price drop right after a tanker finishes filling the in ground tanks.
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Exactly. It's the old addage of up like a rocket, down like a feather.
The retail gasoline market has very thin margins.
When the price goes up, companies are quick to raise the price because they make more on the gasoline that's on hand.
When the price goes down, they don't want to drop the price quickly because then they'd be upside down on the gas that they have on hand.
It's not uncommon at all to see the price drop right after a tanker finishes filling the in ground tanks.
So it's not an artificial bump. It's just a rational response to the situation?
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Been out of the news loop for 4 days. I knew OPEC was meeting. What was the announcement?
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Been out of the news loop for 4 days. I knew OPEC was meeting. What was the announcement?
Cut Production by 1.5 million bbls per day.
Rumour has it that will last about a week before everyone starts cheating...
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Rose to 1.95 over night
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Cut Production by 1.5 million bbls per day.
Rumour has it that will last about a week before everyone starts cheating...
And about 2 weeks before US shale starts rolling again.
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It wasn't long ago that it was profitable to mine oil shale at about $40.00 a bbl.
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I paid $2.79 for super in Jersey last night. The biggest spike I've seen was when they bumped the gas tax about a month ago. It was presented as a 23 cent hike everywhere from Christie's mouth, to every media outlet I saw. It was however written as a percentage, so it was only 23 cents when gas was $2. As bad as that bump was, when they switched to winter gas last week I immediately lost 40 miles per tank.
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It's interesting. Last week when the OPEC agreement was announced, gas at my favorite station jumped 18 cents overnight. It dropped back down a dime to $1.99 a few days later. It jumped 20 cents today to $2.19.
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Yep. Prices are bouncing all over the place right now.
OARP is dropping pretty good today. West Texas Intermediate is down over $1 a barrel right now.
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Yep. Prices are bouncing all over the place right now.
OARP is dropping pretty good today. West Texas Intermediate is down over $1 a barrel right now.
They are here. Favorite station went from $1.92 to $1.88 to $1.82 to $1.99 in 4 days. And, of course, it's again time to fill the 30 gal tank.
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Citgo near me is now up to $2.09.
Many of the other local stations are well into the $2.20s or even $2.30s.
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Yesterday I paid 180.9 but 20 miles away it was 2,20
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Jumped to $2.15 at the Citgo near my house.
In the high $2.20s to $2.30s near Castlekey's place.
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Down here. $2.05 at Costco yesterday.
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Gas is up again over here in CA. It was $2.799 Monday morning and $2.859 Monday afternoon.
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Been meaning to update this...
It's been on the rise here in Virginia, as well. The Citgo near my house hit $2.29 yesterday, and the stations in Arlington near Castle Key's are into the $2.30s or even $2.40s.
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Spent $2.699 for 91 octane last night.
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$2.49 in my part of CA yesterday.
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Diesel went from 2.79 to 2.85/gal overnight in my part of E WA.
bob
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$2.50ish to a max of $2.61 around here in the western Suburbs of Mordor...
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Prices have been creeping up around here too (50mi from Dallas). Yesterday it was up to $2.14 from a low in the $1.80's.
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Prices jumped 15 cents a gallon today at most of the stations in the area near my house.
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$2.69 to $2.79 here in KW.
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Up to $2.35-ish (or more) most places I drive by lately.
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We bumped twenty cents to $2.25 today at my favorite station. Others nearby went up a dime or more. Don't know what prompted the increase.
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2.09 for e10. 1.79 for e85
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It was $2.01 for e10 today, down from $2.05 last week. The drop's due to this weekend being "First Monday", when the entire town becomes one huge flea market.
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$2.47/gallon at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Was just thinking about this thread as I tanked up this morning.
Prices in my area of Northern Virginia have been slowly slipping over the past few weeks.
Citgo near my house is back down to $2.19, and the stations in Arlington are running anywhere between $2.19 to $2.39.
The cluster of 4 near Castlekey's house are in the 2.22-2.25 range.
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$2.47/gallon at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
$2.49 at my Costco. I'm surprised the prices are so close. Did WA or Seattle metro increase gas taxes?
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$2.26 at the BP in Glen Ellyn. $2.06, if I had gone with a car wash.
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Prices seem to have stabilized around $2.19-$2.25 at the stations I frequent.
Prices at some of the higher priced stations in the area are slowing backing down towards that mark.
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Prices are slowly backing down in this area, as well. I see anything from $2.09 to $1.99 depending on who's chain it is.
Heard on the radio the other day that prices will likely start heading back up soon as we switch from the more costly winter blends to the more costly summer blends of gasoline. I am still not sure how that works.
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"as we switch from the more costly winter blends to the more costly summer blends of gasoline. I am still not sure how that works."
PROFIT!
Yeah, that's a running joke.
The problem is that refineries are going to be shutting down for spring maintenance starting very soon. But that coincides with the rise in demand because people start driving a lot more as it heads toward spring.
The combination of the two generally sends prices up. So it's not a more expensive spring blend (the winter formulations are more expensive because they're oxygenated, IIRC), it's just a supply/demand capitalism kind of thing.
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Prices have been bouncing around like crazy. One day the BP I go past is $2.39, the next day it's $2.25. It's like playing a roulette wheel, when it's time to buy gas.
Then I go past the Shell station about a half mile, in the same town and the their prices are the exact opposite.
But I do have gas discount cards for both that gets me anywhere from $.03 to $.10 off per gallon.
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When I left work last evening gas was $1.99. This morning it was $2.05. This afternoon it was down to $2.03. At the local Murphy's for E10 85 octane.
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Price is continuing to drop very slowly.
The station near my house has been sitting on $2.15 for a little over a week.
The stations near Castle Key's place are ranging from $2.11 to $2.13.
Over the weekend I paid $1.89 per gallon after my grocery store points were factored in.
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Prices have been bouncing around like crazy. One day the BP I go past is $2.39, the next day it's $2.25. It's like playing a roulette wheel, when it's time to buy gas.
Then I go past the Shell station about a half mile, in the same town and the their prices are the exact opposite.
Just up the road in Comanche, there's a Mobil two blocks from a Valero, and the Valero never fails to be at least ten cents cheaper. At this point, I'm thinking the Mobil must be a front for something, because nobody buys anything from it but they're still paying to have someone at the counter anyway.
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Going up in these parts. $2.59 at the home AO. I'm in Santa Barbara today, and I just filled up for $3.09.
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Going up in these parts. $2.59 at the home AO. I'm in Santa Barbara today, and I just filled up for $3.09.
Isn't there a refinery in or near Santa Barbara? I know around here the closer you get to Joliet, Lemont, or Whiting, IN. The cheaper gas gets (lets expense hauling it from the refinery.)
Meanwhile prices bounce around like a rubber ball. $2.19 to $2.43 have been seen at the prior mentioned BP and Shell this week.
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Isn't there a refinery in or near Santa Barbara? I know around here the closer you get to Joliet, Lemont, or Whiting, IN. The cheaper gas gets (lets expense hauling it from the refinery.)
Ha ha. You forget it's pinko central. High local gas taxes. There's a few processing plants, but they don't make gasoline. It's all first stage oil processing and natgas.
But yeah, otherwise what you said usually holds. Gas is cheaper in Bakersfield for sure (not sure they're cheap enough to live there =D ). Places like up through the 395 corridor above Bishop it gets crazy because those are some long hauls. I just looked at Gasbuddy and it's $3.50 in Mammoth and $3.99 in Bridgeport.
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Gas prices have been holding fairly steady here in Virginia. There's been a slight downward movement at some stations, slight upwards at others.
The big news is that OPEC's attempts to whittle away at the surplus is looking more and more like it's a failure. US stockpiles, as reported yesterday, were at their highest level since the 1980s, and crude, gas, and heating oil futures paid big time. WTI was down over 5%. The downward swing is continuing today.
Another critical factor is that it's now appearing that US shale oil production is becoming financially viable in the $50 a barrel range now that all of the low volume, high cost producers have been weeded out and their assets and fields sold to the more economical large-scale producers.
You have to wonder if there's some middle east OPEC oil sheik just crying his eyes out, knowing that the middle east stranglehold on oil prices is close to being broken for good.
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We've been in KW since 1-1-17. Gas was $2.61 when we arrived. It still is. I would suspect that gas would be in the $2.30 or so range back in the American Florida mainland.
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Paid $2.34 here yesterday. I catch snippets on the radio of Oil being in the $53 a barrel range.
And Mike is right. The US oil industry is consolidating as the high-cost inefficient producers have either been bought outright or the assets sold via bankruptcy to lower cost producers.
With DAPL and Keystone moving ahead, along with the prospect of a Trump administration literally open the floodgates to production in areas previously off limits, the price of oil will probably stabilize if not drop a bit as more production makes it to market.
I'm looking forward to a return to "Free Collectors Glass with every fill-up" days... ;)
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$1.97 in Houston. I paid average $2.15 on the drive down.
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With DAPL and Keystone moving ahead, along with the prospect of a Trump administration literally open the floodgates to production in areas previously off limits...
Literally. :P
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WTI is now under $50 a barrel. Not by much, but that's a real psychological barrier.
Gasoline and heating oil futures are both down nearly a dime over the past two days. That's big movement.
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We jumped from ~$1.99 to $2.09 on average about two weeks ago. It's since dropped back down to $2.05 on average. It's been in the $1.99 to $2.19 range for the last couple of months.
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Not seeing a price drop yet. It's holding steady out here at $3.09. =(
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Prices in Northern Virginia over the last month have jumped between 20 and 40 cents a gallon, depending on where you are.
Doesn't look like they're finished going up, either.
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Thanks to gov Moonbeam, we in CA will soon be paying an extra 12 cents in base gas tax with an additional "variable" 17 cents. Also around an average of $100 more on annual vehicle registration. All ostensibly to fix the roads even though they refuse to guarantee the money won't go into the general fund (where it will likely be used to help pay for the damn train and bail out the state employee retirement fund).
I'm glad I sold my diesel last year because that's going up 20 cents. Electric cars will pay $100 per year to use the roads (which actually, it's about time they paid something).
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Well obviously all of the disadvantaged dreamer immigrants need good roads on which to walk while they flood across the border.
So, how much does it cost to register a simple 4 door Toyota or Honda mid-level sedan?
Here in Virginia I think it's about $50 a year.
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Paid $2.659 for premium on Tuesday.
If I don't use premium vehicle knocks harder than a Chicago Airport Police Officer.
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Well obviously all of the disadvantaged dreamer immigrants need good roads on which to walk while they flood across the border.
So, how much does it cost to register a simple 4 door Toyota or Honda mid-level sedan?
Here in Virginia I think it's about $50 a year.
New, newer or older?
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Well obviously all of the disadvantaged dreamer immigrants need good roads on which to walk while they flood across the border.
So, how much does it cost to register a simple 4 door Toyota or Honda mid-level sedan?
Here in Virginia I think it's about $50 a year.
CA is probably one of the highest states in the country. It's a progressive (or maybe regressive?) tax. Both my vehicles cost in the mid $30Ks new and first year registration was around $350 on the 4Runner and $450 on the truck (commercial registration). It goes down from there every year to some base (which I don't remember, but it's not cheap either). I paid $279 for the 2014 4Runner this year. Guess it'll be around $350 next year, back to where I started. The new "additional fee" is based on the value of the vehicle and runs from I think $25 - $175.
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CA is probably one of the highest states in the country. It's a progressive (or maybe regressive?) tax. Both my vehicles cost in the mid $30Ks new and first year registration was around $350 on the 4Runner and $450 on the truck (commercial registration). It goes down from there every year to some base (which I don't remember, but it's not cheap either). I paid $279 for the 2014 4Runner this year. Guess it'll be around $350 next year, back to where I started. The new "additional fee" is based on the value of the vehicle and runs from I think $25 - $175.
Seems like it would make a lot more sense to go by weight, with possibly some extra fee over a certain horsepower, since those are the factors that determine its actual wear on the roads. Of course, that would have a lot of motorcycles paying under $10/year, (and would put an instant BS flag on any bicycle registration scheme, because under $1/year would obviously not cover even the paperwork printing costs) so we can't have that.
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New, newer or older?
Registration is pretty much the same no matter what you have (as long as it's a passenger car). Right now it's about $40 a year.
Motorcycles are just under $30 a year.
Where they get us is the annual personal property tax (cars, boats, motor homes, etc.).
That varies from county to county, and is based on a set fee per $100 value of the car that year. The county where I live sets the rate at $4.75 per $100 assessed value. Fortunately, some years ago we got car tax relief, which cut the amount we pay back considerably.
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In Michigan, on Jan. 1, The Stupid Party, which is in charge of the legislature and governors office, added about a 30% bump to license plates, so I'll be paying nearly $40.00 MORE per year for each of my 2 vehicles. Plus they increased the gas tax by about a dime a gallon. Here's the rub. We voters turned down a ballot proposal a year ago by a 75% margin for that exact plan. Part of the reason was that the legislature and governor would not guarantee that 100% of that increase in taxes and fees would go into road repair exclusively, which is obviously necessary. They wanted to divert about half of the money into horse trails, hiking trails, bicycle paths inter alia. Duh.
Give you 3 guesses what they are doing now with this increase that we said a resounding NO to. About half of the increase in going to road repairs. The other half is going into the general fund and now they are whining that they are a couple billion dollars short of road repair money. I'm not a violent person but beatings, whippings, being put in stocks and having garbage thrown at them and then being tarred, feathered and carried down to the local river and chucked in sounds pretty good to me right now.
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Paid $2.42 at the Pilot in Carol Stream today . That include my $.03/gallon discount. So list was $2.45. Yeah, prices have been steadily rising here in the western burbs the last 2-3 weeks.
Passenger car registration is $101 (plus $2 "convenience fee") for the renewal sticker. $196 if it's a plate for a new vehicle.
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Last Monday low grade ethanol was $2.09, yesterday it was $2.19.
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$2.56/gallon today at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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CA is probably one of the highest states in the country. It's a progressive (or maybe regressive?) tax. Both my vehicles cost in the mid $30Ks new and first year registration was around $350 on the 4Runner and $450 on the truck (commercial registration). It goes down from there every year to some base (which I don't remember, but it's not cheap either). I paid $279 for the 2014 4Runner this year. Guess it'll be around $350 next year, back to where I started. The new "additional fee" is based on the value of the vehicle and runs from I think $25 - $175.
Looks like we are higher here in SC. Gas tax is lower (more on that in a minute) but personal property taxes/registration...I paid $660 for my truck ($32k purchase) for the first year. Back when I got my last truck, it was already 9 years old but still $280 for the first year and then would only a little each year till it finally dropped off the "rape the owner in the ass" age and dropped down to $75ish the last year I had it on the road. Next year my truck is supposed to drop down to around $400 but then I get to pay an additional $60 since I moved into a small town...
In Michigan, on Jan. 1, The Stupid Party, which is in charge of the legislature and governors office, added about a 30% bump to license plates, so I'll be paying nearly $40.00 MORE per year for each of my 2 vehicles. Plus they increased the gas tax by about a dime a gallon. Here's the rub. We voters turned down a ballot proposal a year ago by a 75% margin for that exact plan. Part of the reason was that the legislature and governor would not guarantee that 100% of that increase in taxes and fees would go into road repair exclusively, which is obviously necessary. They wanted to divert about half of the money into horse trails, hiking trails, bicycle paths inter alia. Duh.
Give you 3 guesses what they are doing now with this increase that we said a resounding NO to. About half of the increase in going to road repairs. The other half is going into the general fund and now they are whining that they are a couple billion dollars short of road repair money. I'm not a violent person but beatings, whippings, being put in stocks and having garbage thrown at them and then being tarred, feathered and carried down to the local river and chucked in sounds pretty good to me right now.
Raising the gas tax is exactly what they want to do here too. The politicians and their supporters claim that it will "collect more revenue from the tourists" and they also claim the roads are in such dire shape so as to be the worst in the nation. And if you dare object to paying more then it becomes "WELL WHY DO YOU HATE GOOD ROADS???" and so on. Of course not only do the politicians want to give more money to the black hole that is our state DOT, they want to get their hands on that revenue stream for all their pet bullshit projects.
If they actually needed more money to fix the roads, I am not opposed to giving them some more ONCE THEY SHOW SOME RESULTS WITH WHAT THEY GET. Use what they get already up, THEN we can talk about additional fund raising...that MUST be spent on roads. Until them I am not voting to raise taxes in exchange for vague promises.
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Illinois has the worst roads. The roads in SC remind me of the roads of Germany, they are very well maintained and pothole free.
One thing we did that infuriated TPTB is pass a constitutional amendment last November that requires that all monies collected "for Roads" (Bonds, gas taxes, etc) can only be spent on roads. There has to be a separate fund (they money can't go into the General Fund and squandered). So their hands are tied.
When you want to bitch about paying $310 for tags, it's $103 here no matter the age of the vehicle. http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/vehicles/basicfees.html
Where we get nailed in on sales tax (10% in Cook County, 8-9% in the collar counties), and property tax. My 3Bdrm, 2Bath ranch on .28 is $6,000 a year. And that's AFTER the Disabled Veteran's and Homestead discounts. A quick search of the Milton Township assessor's website shows that my neighbors, all will fairly similar sized homes, are paying anywhere from $7,500 to $10.2k in property taxes alone.
We do have a flat 3% income tax, but TPTB want a "Grand Bargain" to raise the income tax (either to 4 or back to 5%) while they "freeze" the property tax (rates), which for those of us paying attention is a pig in poke. Yes, the rates for each taxing body are frozen, but we'll keep raising the assessed value of your home to squeeze you for more money.
Back in January 2011 they pushed through a record temporary income tax increase that raised the income tax rate on individuals to 5 percent from 3 percent, and on corporations to 7 percent from 4.8 percent. They promised that they would use the extra money to pay down the debt. The debt was around $50billion in 2011, the increase expired in 2015 and the state is now $154billion in debt. https://www.illinoispolicy.org/policy-points/illinois-31-6-billion-tax-hike-where-did-the-money-go/
The only reason the tax increase expired is because Pat Quinn lost the election for governor. Had he won, he would have been dumb enough to sign legislation making it permeant. Then Speaker Madigan could pin it on Quinn and call it the "Quinn tax increase", However, Republican Bruce Rauner won. He would veto any increase, and even though Madigan and Senate President Cullerton had Super Majorities in both houses, if they overrode the Governor's veto, they would then won the increase and the D's would get killed in the next election.
But they are back at it, trying to raise the rate once again, in this "Grand Bargain" they are trying to hammer out. Meanwhile, we haven't had a budget in going on 3 years. Madigan is trying to paint it as Rauner doing this, but under our Constitution the House creates the budget. THe Governor can only make recommendations. But the Governor does have the line item veto, so that's the main reason Madigan won't send him a budget. Because Rauner has pledged to cut the pork and waste, and Madigan would have to override and then explain why spending $12 million on studying cow farts and other such bushwah is a priority.
Meanwhile life goes on with no budget. http://www.mystateline.com/news/illinois-state-legislators-sue-to-get-paid-their-salaries/614842886
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Looks like we are higher here in SC. Gas tax is lower (more on that in a minute) but personal property taxes/registration...I paid $660 for my truck ($32k purchase) for the first year. Back when I got my last truck, it was already 9 years old but still $280 for the first year and then would only a little each year till it finally dropped off the "rape the owner in the ass" age and dropped down to $75ish the last year I had it on the road. Next year my truck is supposed to drop down to around $400 but then I get to pay an additional $60 since I moved into a small town...
Raising the gas tax is exactly what they want to do here too. The politicians and their supporters claim that it will "collect more revenue from the tourists" and they also claim the roads are in such dire shape so as to be the worst in the nation. And if you dare object to paying more then it becomes "WELL WHY DO YOU HATE GOOD ROADS???" and so on. Of course not only do the politicians want to give more money to the black hole that is our state DOT, they want to get their hands on that revenue stream for all their pet bullshit projects.
If they actually needed more money to fix the roads, I am not opposed to giving them some more ONCE THEY SHOW SOME RESULTS WITH WHAT THEY GET. Use what they get already up, THEN we can talk about additional fund raising...that MUST be spent on roads. Until them I am not voting to raise taxes in exchange for vague promises.
Wow. I would have never guessed SC having registrations that high.
I would theoretically not have much of a problem paying gas taxes or registration fees for transportation infrastructure, but whether local, state, or federal, it never happens. You can never get the politicians to guarantee that they will only use road taxes for roads, nor would you ever get them to reduce taxes if they build a surplus. Further, you can never get them to show how 100% of previous infrastructure taxes were used for infrastructure. Mostly because they weren't. Between bloated administration and bait and switch on the money, I would guess only 25% or so of the tax money collected for roads goes to roads.
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I was in Pennsylvania over the weekend.
Prices ranged from $2.55 to $2.69 a gallon for regular unleaded.
It used to be that Pennsylvania and Virginia had virtually identical gasoline prices.
Then Pennsylvania started electing a series of communist dicks to the Gub's mansion who started ramming through moar taxes on gasoline because, well, it's a good thing! Believe me, I'm from the gubmint and I'm here to help you!
I think the latest several rounds of Democratic tax increases goes a long way towards explaining why Trump won Pennsylvania.
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Prices are starting to drop again.
Crude oil and gasoline futures prices have been dropping fairly steadily, but slowly, but and today are getting absolutely hammered on news that US production is up, the OPEC cuts are ineffective, and China is looking as if it's moving into a government regulated slow-down.
Prices peaked about 2 weeks ago at the Citgo near my house at $2.35.
Since then they've fallen back to $2.25 a gallon for regular unleaded.
Some analysts are now saying that OPEC's only hopes are to extend their production cuts pretty much indefinitely, make even deeper cuts, or a combination of the two, while other analysts are still saying that the market will balance out and the glut will ease by end of the year.
Then there are there contrarians who are saying that OPEC is screwed no matter what, because there's more than enough free capacity in the American market to counteract pretty much any move OPEC makes.
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$2.28 today without any discounts (The Fistful Rule). So that's down $.14 since mid-April when I last topped off the tank.
I was very surprised by the price.
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1.94 today in upstate SC.
Feels like this is the longest in my lifetime for stable prices like this.
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The cheap stuff here's been dropping for the last week or so. Today it was down to $1.97.
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Oddly enough, the Citgo near my house had dropped to 2.25 a gallon.
Two days ago it jumped to 2.29 a gallon.
But, I'm getting ready to cash in 417 gas points on my Giant card. That's 40 cents a gallon off.
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I paid $2.62 yesterday for 93 octane. Regular unleaded was $2.02.
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What do you drive that you need to pay for premium?
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Aaaannnnddddd the *expletive deleted*ers passed the tax increase. Governor vetoed it and then they overrode the veto
I'm going to go ahead and make the prediction that the roads do not get any better and that money disappears down a black hole of unaccountability
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$ 2.49 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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The gas station by my house (Sheetz) was $1.99 last night.
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I paid $2.13 a gallon near where I drop Seren off for doggy day care.
At the Citgo near my house? The price went back UP to $2.29 a gallon.
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I paid $2.13 a gallon near where I drop Seren off for doggy day care.
At the Citgo near my house? The price went back UP to $2.29 a gallon.
3 minutes from the Sheetz are two gas stations that are right off the interstate. $2.29 at them.
I'm amazed that they can make money. It can't be local business, given people can drive 3 minutes in any direction to find a cheaper gas station and I wouldn't think there were that many travelers to make the extra 30¢ profit per gallon worthwhile.
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3 minutes from the Sheetz are two gas stations that are right off the interstate. $2.29 at them.
I'm amazed that they can make money. It can't be local business, given people can drive 3 minutes in any direction to find a cheaper gas station and I wouldn't think there were that many travelers to make the extra 30¢ profit per gallon worthwhile.
Oh hell, that's nothing.
There's an Exxon Station here in Northern Virginia. It's outside the smallish town proper, near the CIA headquarters, near the entrance to the George Washington Parkway, and the last gas station before you cross the Potomac and the only gas station in sight.
OK, given all that you know it will carry a premium.
The stations in the small town proper, less than 2 miles away, run $2.19 to $2.30 for regular.
This little Exxon?
Unleaded regular is THREE NINETEEN a *expletive deleted*ing gallon.
I've heard it said, but have never seen it confirmed, that that station is, far and away, the most expensive station in Virginia.
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What do you drive that you need to pay for premium?
(http://www.stupidhumans.org/image/stupidhumans/1105/-stupid-human-1305930546.jpg)
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Today the cheap stuff was down to $1.96.
The little (1,350 pop.) town near us has 3 gas stations - a Chevron across the street from a no-name w/grocery store, 2 miles down the road at the other end of town is another no-name with a restaurant & snack shop. The Chevron and 1st no-name are consistently $0.40 to $0.50 more per gallon than the second no-name. And there are always cars at the pumps of the first two.
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3 minutes from the Sheetz are two gas stations that are right off the interstate. $2.29 at them.
I'm amazed that they can make money. It can't be local business, given people can drive 3 minutes in any direction to find a cheaper gas station and I wouldn't think there were that many travelers to make the extra 30¢ profit per gallon worthwhile.
You must be wrong. They don't price gasoline "wrong" nowadays, not for long. Gasoline pricing is very sophisticated. I would say if the price is 0.30 higher in that location...then the price really is 0.30 higher.
https//www.wsj.com/articles/why-do-gas-station-prices-constantly-change-blame-the-algorithm-1494262674
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Paid $3.09 for super in Denville NJ yesterday. They keep saying on the news that crude has dropped and that the prices of gas are dropping. Apparently that info hasn't hit stations around here, gas is up 50 cents over the last month... Boomhauer, my parents moved to Anderson in December and were a bit shocked by the registration costs for their cars. I had to remind them that their property taxes were less then 10% of what they were in NJ, and on a bigger house at that. Plus, next year once they qualify for the senior exemption, they'll be around 5% of what they paid up north. At least you guys get an offset.
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Filled up for 1.87 yesterday. And like boomhauer I'm ready to flog people over the gas tax increase they just rammed through.
Out DOT is corrupt enough Chicago could take notes and they waste money left right and center on top of being about as corrupt as humanly possible.
I doubt a single extra pot hole gets filled, and if it does it'll be in the lower 2/3's of the state.
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When I flew out of Charlotte last Tuesday, gas prices were $2.06 at some stations in the area. Here in the Portland area they are as high as $2.79.
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$2.46 in Southern Idaho.
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Prices seem to have stabilized in Northern Virginia in the $2.20 to $2.40 range, depending on where you are.
Oil and related products are taking a huge beating today, though, with WTI falling below $45 a barrel.
Looks like all of Saudi Arabia/Russia/OPEC efforts to cut production and bring the price of oil up to the $60 a barrel level are generally failing, as it's just giving American producers a re-entry level.
And this is my sad face for OPEC... :rofl:
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Prices seem to have stabilized in Northern Virginia in the $2.20 to $2.40 range, depending on where you are.
Over here, they've been bouncing between about $1.99 and $2.27. Been that way for a few months, I think.
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$ 2.39 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I paid $1.99 in Peoria last weekend.
I haven't seen it below $2.00 in Illinois in decades..
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Here in the Ukraine it looks to be around a $1 a liter.
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Here in the Ukraine it looks to be around a $1 a liter.
I am so jealous. It's just now starting to dip below $3 a gallon out here.
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$2.05 to $2.09 around here. Since our gas prices locally are somewhat disconnected from oil price per barrel, I expect it to jump at least 10 cents fairly soon. We usually get a large bump after a few weeks of falling prices.
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$1.99 in North Aurora,Il today.
G-d bless Donald Trump, Keystone XL, and the NDAPL !!!!!
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last I saw yesterday was $1.78
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Looks like prices may continue downward for a while. Apparently Libya and Nigeria have managed to re-start production, adding a total of 500,000 barrels a day to global (specifically Atlantic) output. China is buying less than what they have in the past. And there's a large tanker filled with crude floating off the west coast of Africa looking for a place to off-load. Which is a sign that the glut is nowhere near ending.
http://gcaptain.com/a-laden-supertanker-sitting-idle-signals-opecs-struggle/
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Here in the Ukraine it looks to be around a $1 a liter.
I am so jealous. It's just now starting to dip below $3 a gallon out here.
$1 a liter is about $4.50 a gallon. You might want to rethink being jealous.
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OARP is getting pummeled again this morning and as of right now is under $43 a barrel.
I weep for Russia, OPEC, and Venezuela...
I can't remember the last time gasoline prices were in a general falling trend at this time of the year.
I think it's been over a decade.
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$1.89 here.
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Despite the pummeling the last week or so, gas prices here are being surprisingly resistant to movement even though oil is down over $2 a barrel and wholesale gasoline is down I think in the 5% range.
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Lowest I saw yesterday was 1.79.
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Still no bump in gas prices. In fact, they have continued their slow creep downward, around $2.02-$2.04/gal. in the area.
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We took a different route home from the doc today (~120 mi rt) through a bunch of small towns off hwy 80 and saw prices anywhere from $1.92 to $2.15.
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Still holding at $2.44 in Wheaton. But I paid $2.01 in Indiana today.
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$1 a liter is about $4.50 a gallon. You might want to rethink being jealous.
Wow, and I thought CA prices were bad. Jealousy re-thunk. ;)
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California is relatively cheap in comparison...
Gasoline is roughly $5.73 a gallon in Britain.
In the Netherlands it's roughly $6.47 a gallon.
Here's a pretty neat website that will make you weep with jealousy or catatonic with shock at the average price of gasoline around the world.
This view should show US dollars per US gallon, but you might need to mess with the settings... http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
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Why thank you, Mr. Irwin. =)
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$2.35 here. But we also have a pretty high tax burden on gas, but contrasting that is our vehicle registration is comparatively cheap.
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$ 2.35 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Best I've seen here in Northern Virginia is $2.15 at a couple of the independent chain stations.
The best price I've seen from one of the major chains is $2.19 at the Citgo by my house.
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Just filled up for 1.76
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$1.98 at Costco. $2.03 or $2.09 everyplace else. A lot more 2.03's than there were yesterday.
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$1.89 at Kroger this afternoon.
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I think the only thing that's keeping pump prices up right now is the impending 4th of July holiday. Expectations are for a HUGE driving holiday this year.
I just have a hunch that if OARP doesn't skyrocket this coming week we're going to see a big drop off in pump prices right after the holiday.
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I just hope they stay down come December/January when I'm back and having to feed my beast.
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$1.93 ($1.90 after using the card) at a Pilot on I-70 east of Indy on our way back from the USAF Museum this weekend. $2.12 ($2.09 after the loyality) at the Pilot in Gary. (Another parent on the trip was looking a bit nervous and asked "Are we in Gary Indiana?" Yep, this where I usually switch over from Concealed to Open Carry, but since I'm in Uniform, I can't carry. Her: :O :O :O :O)
Not sure what it is around here. I've been sleeping most of the day...
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Oil's been going up the last few days, and gasoline is following.
I'm seeing prices start to rise at the pumps.
The Citgo near my house is still $2.11, but a lot of the stations in the area are now in the 2.20s.
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Three days ago the local Murphy was at $1.99. Yesterday it bumped to $2.04 and today dropped to $2.03.
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Somewhat related, last time I drove to Ohio I got 26mpg. I filled up with E85 as an experiment and got only 21mpg. That actually required me to stop for gas one extra time so I wasn't thrilled. I have seen E85 as cheap as $1.6x out in the country but only slightly cheaper in town where I presume they gouge for the green cred. Either way I don't think I'll be running it.
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Started jumping around here today. Up about a dime most places. Those that didn't bump will likely rise tomorrow or Wednesday.
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Paid $2.08 at the new Thorton's in West Chicago after my Doc appointment last Tuesday. Paid $2.28 in Indy on Friday, and $2.32 in Gary on Sunday.
Prices around here are running $2.34-$2.49,
And I'm really pissed at Indiana Republicans for putting on a $.10/gallon tax. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Running $2.30-ish these days, +/- $0.05 or so, most places I pass in NoVA and central MD.
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Prices are really starting to jump in Northern Virginia.
Sigh.
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Prices are really starting to jump in Northern Virginia.
Sigh.
$2.06 in Mason City.
NPR news said oil is going to increase due to the craziness in Venezuela.
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$2.06 in Mason City.
NPR news said oil is going to increase due to the craziness in Venezuela.
Latest number I can find is that we import 7.2% of our oil from VZ. IIRC, Conoco Phillips is the main Supplier from VZ to the US.
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Late last week the local Murphy went from $2.05 to $2.15 overnight for the cheap stuff.
Went out today for some non-ethanol, that cost $2.85 per gallon.
Two different towns, about 10 mi. apart.
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Around here, the regular grade had dropped to $2.25 at the cheapest station in my normal circuit as of two weeks ago. Then it started creeping up again. On Friday it was $2.33 there, and $2.39 at the two next-best stations.
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Prices have been jumping pretty hard locally.
My one station went from $2.09 (IIRC) to $2.31 in a matter of days. Yesterday it dropped back to $2.29.
The other stations in the area seem to be between $2.19 (Liberty) to $2.59 (the ridiculous Exxon near my house)
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What the hell is going on ???
I paid $2.12 at the Pilot acros from Iowa-80 on my way to and from KC. I paid $2.07 at the Walmart on Flintlock (I think) in Liberty,MO. I saw it for $2.11 at the Speedway station in Warrenville, on the way to Waterman, thinking that it would be $2.00 or less at the Casey's in Waterman (It's always about $.20 less there then it is around me.) Nope, $2.29 in Waterman, IL. Today I topped off at Thornton's in West Chicago after my Dr's. Appointment for $2.03.
Donald Trump is making the entire world insane...
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Around $2.70 in western wy, eastern id. I heard people grumbling, but for me it's what I'm paying at home. It was $2.30 in southern utah, but for 85. I never use less than 87 though.
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Prices have been starting to slip a bit here in NoVa.
The Citgo near my house topped out at $2.31, then slipped back a day or two later to 2.29.
This morning it's down to $2.19.
The stations near Castle Key are still in the $2.35 to $2.39 range.
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Latest number I can find is that we import 7.2% of our oil from VZ. IIRC, Conoco Phillips is the main Supplier from VZ to the US.
King so and so farty pants, from scratch-my-butt-istan, is 10 minutes late on his morning poop and oil goes up. It's a global commodity, not just local.
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King so and so farty pants, from scratch-my-butt-istan, is 10 minutes late on his morning poop and oil goes up. It's a global commodity, not just local.
I get that, but since it's a global commodity we can (and do import less, we used to import over 20% of our oil from Commiezuela.) And since it's a global commodity, we can import from other sources and/or produce more of our own. And once DAPL is on-line, the through put from the Dakota's will increase, as it'll be no longer rail car capacity dependent.
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"produce more of our own"
NO! NO!
We have it on the highest and best authority that we cannot drill our way to lower prices!
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"produce more of our own"
NO! NO!
We have it on the highest and best authority that we cannot drill our way to lower prices!
There wasn't a single word to come out of that man's mouth that was true, to include "the", "a", "and", "we", "I" and "that".
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Prepare for a spike in gas prices.
Gulf coast refineries are shutting down production because of Harvey.
Gasoline futures have been rising most of the week.
This afternoon one station I pass regularly had jumped a dime.
Yesterday my local Citgo was $2.25, this morning around 5:30 when I stopped it was down to $2.21; this afternoon when I passed it on the way home it was up to $2.26.
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And this morning the Citgo near my house had gone up 13 cents a gallon over yesterday afternoon.
I think the prices are only going to get worse until they get the refineries along the gulf coast back in operation. As long as there's no major damage it shouldn't be too long of a spike, especially with the end of the driving season coming.
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And this morning the Citgo near my house had gone up 13 cents a gallon over yesterday afternoon.
I think the prices are only going to get worse until they get the refineries along the gulf coast back in operation. As long as there's no major damage it shouldn't be too long of a spike, especially with the end of the driving season coming.
Yep. The lowest-price station along my usual routes jumped 6 cents between 8:30 a.m. and 4:30 p,m. on Monday.
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Funny thing is, the prices will drop quick once the refineries are back (although that may be awhile). On the radio this morning is that crude prices are dropping because the refineries are off line. So there's a bottleneck now in the market. Producers have no place to sell/send the crude, expect to see more ULCC's and VLCC's swinging at anchor.
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Yep.
Ultimately, that is going to keep gasoline prices in check, because something like 70% of the cost of a gallon of gasoline is the cost of the crude oil.
And, it will be a triple whammy for gasoline prices, really...
Post Labor Day, refineries coming back on line, and the crude overabundance of crude isn't going down nearly as much or as quickly as OPEC had hoped.
And, possibly a fourth whammy in there... It's looking like compliance with OPEC's pumping freeze is at 75% and falling.
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Well, gasoline futures are up going on 12 more cents today...
Nearly 30 cents a gallon since last week.
Home heating oil is also rising.
This is going to sting for awhile.
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I had an 8:30 appointment at the VA hospital today. Went by my second preferred station at 8:00, price was $2.36.
Stopped for gas on my way back, at 10:00 -- price was $2.43.
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Up another 15 cents at my Citgo.
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BP on Roosevelt Rd yesterday morning 8:30ish am.
$2.37...$2.17 with car wash.
At 5:00ish pm yesterday
$2.59... $2.39 with car wash.
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$2.19 last I looked but that was 2 days ago.
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Price only jumped a few cents here in NoVA, at least where I live. Not sure how long that will last, but I'll get two work weeks out of my full tank anyways, including at least one trip out of my local area.
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I had an 8:30 appointment at the VA hospital today. Went by my second preferred station at 8:00, price was $2.36.
Stopped for gas on my way back, at 10:00 -- price was $2.43.
And I went by the same station again at 2:00 p.m. and the price had jumped to $2.46. And I find it difficult to believe that they received a second delivery (at a higher price) within the span of 4 hours.
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We've gone up at least 45 cents since two days before Harvey made landfall. The biggest parts of the increase was just in the last three days.
Several more refineries in Texas announced they were shutting down today due to more flooding, including the two biggest players.
I expect gas will be north of $4 a gallon in this area before it starts heading back down.
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Get ready for even more and faster hikes, it looks like.
Futures are already up another 6% this morning, and there's no indication that it's going to be stopping any time soon.
Wholesale prices are up over 40 cents a gallon in about a week and a half. Some are predicting by the time this all shakes out wholesale prices will be in the $2.25 to $2.50 range, and average US pump prices will be topping $3 a gallon.
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I still have 3/4 tank of gas. I think there are stations that have gas now. Also, our company had a Hurricane prep action of getting a portable gas tank and diesel tank delivered and filled prior to landfall. Those are available for employees.
It will be interesting to see how fast everyone gets started up. If the plants didn't get flooded, they can restart more quickly. If they got equipment or motors submerged, those will take some time to get back running. I wonder how many maintenance and motor shops got flooded. Motiva in Port Arthur is one of the large refineries and they shut down pretty abruptly when Harvey made landfall over there.
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As of this moment, gasoline futures are up almost 25 cents a gallon.
And they seem to be dragging oil and heating oil with them.
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I had an 8:30 appointment at the VA hospital today. Went by my second preferred station at 8:00, price was $2.36.
Stopped for gas on my way back, at 10:00 -- price was $2.43.
And at 07:30 this morning it was at $2.46.
At this point the stations are just gouging. The gas in the ground, in the delivery trucks, and in the tank farms waiting to be trucked to the stations has all been there since well before Harvey and before the refineries shut down. It didn't cost 13 cents per gallon more for the gas they're selling this morning than it did for the gas they were selling yesterday morning.
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"At this point the stations are just gouging."
You give the stations far too much credit for being able to set their own prices.
Most often they can't, or they only have a penny or two's ability to vary the price based on the price it's charged by the wholesale supplier.
Independent stations have the most flexibility to set their own prices (naturally), while those tied to a large national refiner/distributor network (Shell, Exxon) have the least flexibility and often receive the price they're going to charge at a given time from a regional office.
And, fluctuating prices for a market traded commodity is a hallmark of a capitalist market driven economy.
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True, but gas is becoming scarce. Which means the price will rise. Basic economics. Supply and demand. So that gas that is in the ground, in the trucks in the tank farms is mostly all there is. No more is coming to them via pipelines, because there's no more (or a lot less) being produced. The rising price will encourage them to get back on line faster.
Remember during the Ammo Panic. You could take ammo that you had paid $X for to a Gun Show (or On-line) an sell it for (many) multiples of $X. Same with retail stores, as supply remained stagnant, but demand skyrocketed, prices got stupid crazy.
Economics.
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"At this point the stations are just gouging."
You give the stations far too much credit for being able to set their own prices.
You're right, I did write "the stations," and I should have left it more open-ended. Someone is gouging when the price of any product that has already been manufactured and is already far down the distribution chain suddenly jumps in price.
On the other hand:
Most often they can't, or they only have a penny or two's ability to vary the price based on the price it's charged by the wholesale supplier.
I don't think the station I was driving by had one delivery between 08:00 and 10:00 yesterday, another delivery between 10:00 and 2:00, and yet another delivery between 2:00 p.m. yesterday and 07:30 this morning. It's a busy station, but it's not three deliveries within 24 hours busy.
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$ 2.59 per gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle. Up ten cents since my last fillup two weeks ago.
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Gas isn't becoming scarce... yet.
And, there's been a huge surge in the amount of European gasoline being loaded onto tanker ships and sent to the US. That will help cover at least some of the short-term supply issues.
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"I don't think the station I was driving by had one delivery between 08:00 and 10:00 yesterday, another delivery between 10:00 and 2:00, and yet another delivery between 2:00 p.m. yesterday and 07:30 this morning. It's a busy station, but it's not three deliveries within 24 hours busy."
Agreed.
But that still says absolutely nothing about the station's management/ownership structure.
Are they part of a regional group, a small independent, a national franchise?
Were the prices going up out of synch with other stations in the area?
For example, during the 9-11 attacks there were verified reports of gas stations around the country suddenly raising prices by as much as 5 DOLLARS a gallon. IIRC, for the most part every one of those instances was an individual manager seeing the news and trying to capitalize, and virtually none of them were part of a distributor plot.
That's gouging.
What you're seeing?
You're seeing an interesting little exercise called (IIRC) Capitalized Replacement Price.
Sure, the gasoline in the ground has been paid for, but with wholesale prices rising by 10 cents a gallon or more a day, and when your profit margin on a gallon of gasoline is often less than 1% per gallon, you need to think about whether you can actually afford to replace the gasoline that's now in the ground.
That's why you're seeing prices rise.
In short, I guess boils down to this...
Everyone things capitalism is wonderful.
Until capitalism actually starts acting like capitalism acts.
Then they all become screaming market interventionist commies.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Gas isn't becoming scarce... yet.
And, there's been a huge surge in the amount of European gasoline being loaded onto tanker ships and sent to the US. That will help cover at least some of the short-term supply issues.
It's becoming scarce in San Antonio for the time being which is a bit troubling. My work truck and my wife's car are both topped off, but depending on my schedule, I could burn through a tank of gas or two in a day easily.
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This chart http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ that Mike Irwin linked to awhile back says gas is only three cents per gallon in Venezuela. Road trip!
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2,29 in mo at closest station on this side. I need to run over to the one in Kansas tomorrow and get about 40 gallon guessing might be 2.50 a gallon by then.
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This chart http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ that Mike Irwin linked to awhile back says gas is only three cents per gallon in Venezuela. Road trip!
Not many people have (working) cars anymore....so very low demand...Except for Molotov Cocktails..
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What was $2.45 this morning is now $2.55 this evening. We're up over 60 cents in some places in the last two weeks.
Four bucks a gallon, here we come!
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If we are going to Venezuela we need to stock up on toilet paper before we cross the border.
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If we are going to Venezuela we need to stock up on toilet paper before we cross the border.
Just use their currency.
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Not many people have (working) cars anymore....so very low demand...Except for Molotov Cocktails..
At prices that cheap I'm surprised no one is using a tanker ship to haul the gas up here or somewhere else.
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What was $2.45 this morning is now $2.55 this evening. We're up over 60 cents in some places in the last two weeks.
Four bucks a gallon, here we come!
It'll bubble only as long as it takes the refineries in Houston to get pumping again.
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Here (between Dallas & Tyler TX) the local Murphy was $2.19 at 1000hrs. Two hours later I went outside for a break, the price was still at $2.19. As I was getting ready to exit the truck 15 min. later the price jumped to $2.25, before I was able to shut the door it was $2.35 - with long lines.
Seems as if someone had started a rumor about a gasoline shortage, due to the refineries down south being shut down, and there were higher prices and long lines all over the DFW & outlying areas. From what I heard, the problem with that rumor (beside the chaos caused) is that the gasoline in this area comes from Oklahoma.
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Oooops....retracted. wrong thread
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$2.39 at noon north of Tulsa.
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Today starts a new options contract period, and prices are backing off a bit.
Colonial says that their pipelines in Texas are going to be fully restored in a few days and the first refineries have begun the restart procedure. Still going to be a long haul as it won't be known for at least a few days how much damage there is at refineries that were in the major strike area.
But, I think the worst of the price jumps are over for the moment. We're probably going to see residual jumps in pump prices for a couple of weeks but, hopefully, by mid to late September we should see pump prices start to slip.
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It'll bubble only as long as it takes the refineries in Houston to get pumping again.
This is true. The unknown is how long it will take to get the refineries and pipelines back in shape. Motiva, the largest refiner in the country, is refusing to predict how long it will take them to get back online. They just don't know the condition of their plant at this point, and won't know until they can get their teams back onsite to evaluate and start repairs. It's likely the same for all the refiners that were forced to shut down.
Another unknown is the spare parts and materials situation. Will there be a shortage of replacement parts needed to get the plants back up and running? What kind of stockpile of day-to-day spares and SPOF parts did the various refiners maintain? Did their spare parts stock suffer damage from the flooding? What is available off-the-shelf from distributors and manufacturers? Manufacturing lead times and transportation issues will also play a part in how soon many of the refineries get back up and running.
Lots of unknowns to figure out in the next few weeks.
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Also prices would have probably gone up some, although not as much, this weekend anyways since it is Labor Day weekend.
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Today starts a new options contract period, and prices are backing off a bit.
Colonial says that their pipelines in Texas are going to be fully restored in a few days and the first refineries have begun the restart procedure. Still going to be a long haul as it won't be known for at least a few days how much damage there is at refineries that were in the major strike area.
But, I think the worst of the price jumps are over for the moment. We're probably going to see residual jumps in pump prices for a couple of weeks but, hopefully, by mid to late September we should see pump prices start to slip.
My $4 buck a gallon prediction may have been hasty, but gas north of $3 gallon wouldn't surprise me at the rate it's been increasing. Most of our gas around here comes via pipeline from the gulf coast. Prices spiked pretty good when the pipeline went down twice last year. Once because it started leaking, and once because a heavy equipment operator damaged the line and caused an explosion. He died in that incident if I remember correctly.
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"but gas north of $3 gallon wouldn't surprise me at the rate it's been increasing."
As I said yesterday, there are those who are predicting that, especially if damage to the refineries is severe, or the re-entry to production becomes a problem.
You'll definitely see areas where it goes over $3 a gallon. Hell, there's a station in Virginia, an Exxon, where regular unleaded hasn't been below $3 a gallon in over a decade. They're the only gas station for about 3 miles in any direction and sit right before the entrance to the GW Parkway, so they're trying for the desperation gas purchase, is my guess. But that's neigh on gouging as far as I'm concerned, when your average daily spread is north of $1.20 a gallon as compared to other stations in the area.
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Up around $0.30 overnight, on my trip to work from NoVA to central MD. Around $2.65, generally. I expect the Exxon on the corner by my office is pushing $3, but didn't get a chance to see the sign this morning.
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I tanked up at $2.55 this morning on my way in.
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I started this thread on 10 October 2014.
Didn't think it was that long ago...
But on that date the price for a gallon of regular at the Citgo near my house (where I tanked up this morning, was $3.15.
The high for WTI crude in 2014 was $105 and change a barrel.
When I started this thread it had dropped into the lower to mid $80s, and since the end of 2014 has consistently traded below $60 a barrel, even dropped into the high $20s for a short period.
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This chart http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/ that Mike Irwin linked to awhile back says gas is only three cents per gallon in Venezuela. Road trip!
For some reason, I doubt the gas in Venezuela meets US standards for emissions and other stuff. I am not sure I want to put that in my truck.
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For some reason, I doubt the gas in Venezuela meets US standards for emissions and other stuff. I am not sure I want to put that in my truck.
I thought I read somewhere that gasoline in Venezuela comes from the US? They ship crude to the US and Citgo sends back the refined products(s).
Yep, 95 Octane most US would run like crap as they need at least 97-98 Octane.
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-citgo-increases-exports-to-venezuela-giving-pdvsa-a-breather-2016-11
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Yep, 95 Octane most US would run like crap as they need at least 97-98 Octane.
I think they use a different system for octane ratings in South America.
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2.12 this am for e-85. 1.85 yesterday for e-85
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Up another dime (at least) to $2.65 - $2.75 in this area, and spot shortages developing. A cow-orker had to go through three stations on the way to work today to find one that had gas. I ran across a station today that would only sell for cash, no debit or credit.
Bought some extra gas cans and filled them today in case spot shortages get worse next week. We'll start topping off our vehicles after every drive until this blows over.
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Went from 2.29 this morning to 2.59 this afternoon.
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My "go to" station was $2.42 when I drove past it on the way to work this morning. This afternoon I stopped for gas on the way home ... $2.75.
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Crude was slightly up, and gasoline futures slight down, yesterday.
That's apparently from the news that the one pipeline company, Colonial, is saying that their pipelines weren't damaged badly and that they're getting gas flowing again as well as news that at least a couple of refineries have begun to restart operations.
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While driving around yesterday:
Waterman- $2.49
Dupage County- $2.57 seemed to be the price at the majority of stations I saw.
Elmhurst - $2.77 (I believe that was just over the Cook County line)
Prices seemed to have stabilized. I would hope given that there are three refineries in the Chicagoland area; Exxon Mobil in Joliet, Citgo in Lemont, and BP in Whiting, IN., I would think this area wouldn't be very hard hit when it comes to shortages and huge rice increases.
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Shortages continue in this area. More stations running out of 87 octane unleaded.
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Just ran across another station out of regular unleaded.
And strangely enough, one station out of everything but regular unleaded.
Folks next to us discussing how they have had to check multiple stations to find gas.
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Where do you live?
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I live in Hickory, NC., Mike. Moved here from Orygun about 3.5 years ago primarily so my wife could look after her aging parents.
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Not seeing any shortages here.
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Still seeing $2.39 and no shortages around here.
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Gasoline futures are falling hard this morning. Hopefully that's a good sign, as refineries come back on line. I've not heard anything about major damage at any of the refineries.
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Most of our gas comes via the Colonial pipeline out of Texas. It was shut down for a period post Harvey from what I read, though it's since been cranked back up.
As a precaution Friday I increased my stock of gas in storage just in case there were still shortages this week. I have to get to work, and my wife needs to visit her Dad twice a day to look in on him. He has Alzheimer's.
I expect the shortages will let up later this week as more gas is shipped up this way via the pipeline.
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Up to $2.50 here in NoVA in my area.
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We've been holding steady around $2.55 to $2.65 for the last three days. Maybe it's the pipeline coming back online.
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We've been holding steady around $2.55 to $2.65 for the last three days. Maybe it's the pipeline coming back online.
Yep, same here. Citgo near my house has topped out at $2.55 since last Thursday.
Gasoline futures are moving down again today, but unfortunately crude is moving up.
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Prepare for spikes following Irma. If you can stockpile, now would be the time to do it...
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Prepare for spikes following Irma. If you can stockpile, now would be the time to do it...
I would, but all the cans are full of $2.85 non-ethanol gas.
For the last 4 days prices around here have been at $2.45 - $2.49 for the cheap stuff.
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Paid $2.46 at the Pilot one exit south of the Mobil refinery in Joilet coming back from Peoria this weekend. Gas in and around Peoria was $2.49ish to $2.57ish. Still $2.55-2.77 around here.
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My "go to" station was $2.42 when I drove past it on the way to work this morning. This afternoon I stopped for gas on the way home ... $2.75.
September 5, 4:00 p.m.
Holding at $2.75
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Citgo went up to $2.59 yesterday afternoon.
The station near my office has always been expensive, but it's now up to $2.98.
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Seems to have settled in the high $2.70's here. Most stations are $2.75-2.79. There are a handful in the $2.80's, but they are always higher then all the others...
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We obviously are not pro-Trump enough and have pissed off the Russians....
It also appears they are horning in on Jamis' magic unicorn and fairey dust health foods. Great, a pissed off midget little person starting a war with the Russians. Isn't it bad enough we're about to have a war with an entire nation of starving xenophobic midgets...with nuclear weapons.
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My "go to" station was $2.42 when I drove past it on the way to work this morning. This afternoon I stopped for gas on the way home ... $2.75.
My second choice station was $2.87 at 10:30 this morning when I went past it on the way home from the VA hospital. At 3:00 p.m. it was $2.84.
My go-to station was still at $2.75 at 6:30 this evening.
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Da hell is that *expletive deleted*it?
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Da hell is that *expletive deleted*it?
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Russian, in the Cyrillic alphabet.
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Ah cheeze, will Meuller be investigating APS now?
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Ah cheeze, will Meuller be investigating APS now?
Only those who voted against Hillary for Trump.
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Russian, in the Cyrillic alphabet.
That I know.
I'm more wondering why an obvious spammer pushing a message for a muscle rub is still on the board.
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That I know.
I'm more wondering why an obvious spammer pushing a message for a muscle rub is still on the board.
He/It managed to post 4 messages in rapid succession before being hit with the banschwerk. 3 of those messages have been memory-holed. I left this one there since it's a non sequitur in this thread (about the only thread on APS without thread drift), plus a chance to tweak Jamis a bit.
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I abhor the lack of thread drift, but I applaud tweeking Jamis.
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Prices appear to be dropping a bit in my neck of the woods.
Hopefully we'll see much of the recent rise fade away by October.
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We were pretty steady here in W. Michigan in the mid $2.40's till the storm in Texas. Jumped to $2.79 a couple days after.
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The station near my office that topped out at $2.98 is down to $2.89.
I've seen a smaller drop at stations in Arlington, VA.
The Citgo near my house is holding at $2.61, but I'm thinking that's going to drop a bit the next time they have fuel delivered, which judging by the patterns should be either this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
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Prices here are in the $2.60's. The BP I pass when I'm out and about was at $2.67 this morning down from $2.79 last week.
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A couple of stations have dropped a penny around here. Otherwise, prices are stable in the mid-$2.60s, no real change over the last week.
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Well, I was right. The Citgo dropped last evening... a whole 2 cents.
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2.49. It's kind of funny as most stations were 2.49 +/- a few cents with a few outlayers upwards of 2.69.
Before Irma the gov mentioned reporting price gouging, iirc anyone over 4 bucks a gallon. Almost instantly and EVERY station seemed to settle on exactly 2.49. Even in the different sections of town where you tend to get a cluster of this price or that price.
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91 no E was 2.89 a gallon tonight. 87 no E was 2.69
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Most stations are still in the $2.60's. (there was one still at $2.79 ;/) Pilot up on North Avenue was $2.53, which became $2.50 after my $.03/gal discount.
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My AAA MasterCard gets me a 5% discount on gas. Not restricted to any particular brand. That adds up when we are going back and forth from Michigan and Florida.
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Went past my second choice station on the way to work this morning: $2.68
Went past my usual first choice station on the way home from work this afternoon: $2.69
Both trending down since the first of this month. I hope the trend continues.
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Gas prices are dropping here. It's $2.24 at Costco, just dropped to $2.29 at a station a few blocks from Costco, and $2.39 and $2.44 everywhere else.
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Starting to edge down here finally. The local Speedway that I often use dropped four cents to $2.61. There's a new Love's at the exit to NC10 from US321 where I get off for work. They've dropped 20 cents to $2.49 in the last few days. I may start buying gas there on the way to work.
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The stations in Arlington near Castle Key have finally started to drop. They were edging into the $2.70s, but are now $2.59 to $2.63 as of Friday.
The Citgo near me is also very slowly dropping... It's at the 6 cents off weekend price of $2.51 (it will go up to $2.57 after the weekend) but I'm hoping it should drop again tomorrow.
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Normally the Exxon and Valerjo are ~$0.05 more than Brookshire's (supermarket) and Murphy. The last week or so all 4 have been at the same price for the cheap 10% stuff - $2.43, which is down from the high around $2.49.
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I finished fueling up at Citgo this morning at $2.57.
As I was getting ready to pull out, the supply tanker was pulling in. We'll see if it also brought a price drop.
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While out and about over night I saw a low of $2.25 and a high of $2.39, Northeast of Tulsa.
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For 87 over the last couple of days, $3.10 in Galt, CA; $2.87 in Winnemucca, NV; $2.87 in Caldwell, ID. The Caldwell station also had ethanol free for $3.02.
If I see ethanol free on my next fillup, I might try it to see if I can notice any difference.
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According to GasBuddy, this morning's delivery at the Citgo brought with it a 6 cent a gallon price drop on 87 octane.
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Last Thursday (9/14) my second choice station was at $2.68 for regular. This morning (9/18) it was $2.66.
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Whoever reported my Citgo station to GasBuddy lied. The price was unchanged at $2.57 when I went past last evening.
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Mobil on Roosevelt in Wheaton was $2.43/$2.23 (w/carwash), BP in Glen Ellyn was $2.45/$2.35 w/CW. Shell was $2.43.
That's a $.20 drop in about a week.
The Circle K/Shell and the Citgo near Danada are both still at $2.57 ;/ ;/
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1.47 for e85 in kenset iowa
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Forgot to report last weekend, I paid $2.24 after $.20 to get a carwash and $.05 with Shell Fuel rewards card.
Since then prices have gone down to $2.39ish.
I'll be out in Waterman tomorrow, so I'll be topping off at the Casey's out there as they are generally $.10- $.20 less than around here locally.
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It's dropping VERY slowly here in Northern Virginia.
The station near my house is now at 2.41, which is about as cheap as I've seen in the area.
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We're seeing a slow, steady decrease in prices in this area. Most stations in Hickory are around $2.41 - $2.44 right now. We have a handful though that are below $2.30 just south of here around Newton, NC.
I wouldn't be surprised if we get a small, quick bump in prices with Nate going through the Gulf and some oil platforms being shut down and evacuated.
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Haven't checked in on this in a while...
Prices have been going up in my area over the past 2 months as the price of oil has gone up. Now averaging about $2.45 a gallon for regular.
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Up a bit here. Actually a good bit because the new gas taxes went into effect 01NOV. However, that date was carefully planned by the commies because that's also the day that stations in CA can start selling the cheaper Winter blend, so the increase doesn't look as bad. IIRC, there will be another tax hike next year, and that, coupled with Summer blends, will be much more noticeable to the sheep.
My go-to gas station is at $2.93 for 87 right now. According to Gasbuddy, the average price in CA is currently $3.25.
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A couple weeks ago I got gas for $2.24 at Thorton's in West
Chicano Chicago...
Went by the next day and it was up to $2.57.
I haven't been looking at specific stations, but most seem to be in $2.57-$2.74 range... And I'm almost down to 1/2 a tank and we're headed to Southern Illinois later today, so I just need to get out of the Chicagoland area to avoid all the extra taxes.
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We'd dropped to an average $2.22 around the area about three weeks ago, when it jumped 15 cents to $2.37 overnight. It's slowly dropping again, about a penny each drop, right now hovering around $2.34. My guess is for a bottom this go-around of $2.29.
OPEC and the IEA released conflicting forecasts for oil demand today. The IEA expects demand to drop next year by roughly 100K barrels/day, while OPEC expects demand to increase by a similar amount. Oil futures are down $1.28 for WTI the last I looked today. I expect prices will recover next week with WTI back to $58 or so a barrel.
OPEC is expected to announce later this month the extension of production cuts through at least March 2018, and perhaps to the end of next year. That should get us to around $60 or so for WTI early next year.
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I don't know why I clicked on this thread. It's too depressing
$3.41 up here. :'(
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It's creeping back up around here, also. A week or ten days ago my go-to station was at $2.50. Yesterday (15 November) it was at $2.56.
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And today (16 November) the same station is at $2.49.
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Up a bit here. Actually a good bit because the new gas taxes went into effect 01NOV.
Prices in my area are hovering around $3.29 a gallon.
Also, I hope everyone knows we Californians did not vote for that gas tax. It was imposed on us.
I've been reading about repeal efforts taking place. Now that's something I would vote for. They use that "But we need the money to repair the roads" excuse every year to jack up taxes on something or other. :mad:
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H&H Fuel in Goreville, IL was $2.49 last weekend. (which was $.10 cheaper then Aces)
Paid anywhere from $2.30 Pilot in Marion, IL and $2.43 at Pilot in Monee on the trip home yesterday. (prices include $.03 discount for their loyalty card)
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2.33 on Saturday for e-10
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Price came down 4 cents a gallon, to 2.41, at my local station today.
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We're down to $2.28 at a few stations in the area. Kind of surprised, as I thought it would bottom at $2.29.
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$ 2.75/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Filled up this morning for $2.19
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Used to be the Exxon & Valerjo stations were ~$0.10 higher than Murphy's and Brookshire's (grocery chain), here lately they've all been within a couple pennies of each other. The cheap stuff's holding around $2.26 +/- a couple cents.
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Paid $2.70 for premium last night.
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My #1 station was at $2.49 for regular yesterday (Nov. 27). #2 station is at $2.56.
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Holding at $2.28 in this area, save for the new Love's on US321 and NC10 at $2.25.
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$2.10 last I noticed
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Price is coming down a little bit here in NoVA. Station near my house went from $2.45 to $2.39 over the span of about 2 weeks.
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And.... the price of gas jumped 11 cents over last night. $2.39 a gallon now in many places.
I'd predicted the bottom would be $2.29 a week or two ago. I wasn't far off, since it reached $2.28 before the bump.
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Saw it at $2.09 this evening.
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And.... the price of gas jumped 11 cents over last night. $2.39 a gallon now in many places.
I'd predicted the bottom would be $2.29 a week or two ago. I wasn't far off, since it reached $2.28 before the bump.
Where's that? That's one hell of a jump based on current market conditions.
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Where's that? That's one hell of a jump based on current market conditions.
Hickory, NC. Several other stations followed that jump today to $2.38-$2.39, but the ones that jumped yesterday fell back 13 cents today to $2.26. Like you said, no market reasons for the changes. Maybe a glitch in the pipeline, short term strike at the depot, who knows?
It's weird in any event.
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$2.67 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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I should start calculating my cost per mile for McDoubles. Got 73 miles on a Taco Casa burrito and three large sodas (and at least 6L of water) once.
Unfortunately, I haven't managed to get rid of the oversized tank yet, so it may throw the numbers off a bit.
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$2.06 this evening.
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$2.39 in NC yesterday. Flew to LA: $3.48.
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Two gas stations a half mile apart on US 29, on my way into work in MD this morning right off the Capital Beltway:
BP, $2.559/gal
Sunoco, $2.419/gal. You can literally see the Sunoco up the hill from before you get to the BP.
Really, BP???
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"Really, BP???"
They've got to pay off those Gulf oil spill fines and judgments somehow.
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That's also really weird, because in Arlington, near where I drop Seren for doggy daycare, the Shell is $2.49, the Liberty and Sunoco are $2.39, and the BP is at $2.33.
All four are within a block of each other. The Liberty and Shell are literally next door to each other.
The independent station near my office came down from $2.79 to $2.69 yesterday. Their gas prices have always been the highest in the area, but for some reason the Springfield, Virginia, area is typically 10 to 15 cents more than other areas I travel in the state.
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Gas has been crazy around here. It goes up to 2.69, then down to 2.50, then down to 2.40's and back up to 2.69. It's around 2.35 now. We took a drive over toward Lake Michigan on Monday. We went through a little town called Zeeland. One station on the corner was. 2.29 and the one across the street was 2.72. I've noticed that the smaller towns out in the counties have gas cheaper than in the Grand Rapids municipal area.
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Crude dropped some today, let's see of Trumps embassy plan erases that loss.
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Saw it at $1.99 yesterday.
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Was 2.32 this morning. 2.51 this afternoon.
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Holy crap! A 20 cent a gallon rise in a day?
That's nuts.
Around here it's slowly dropping at other stations, as well.
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$1.94 for unleaded is the cheapest in my area yesterday (SE TN). The $0.20 per gallon increase has been fairly common in my area. Seldom is it $0.01 or $0.02/gallon any more. It is $2.17 at the station that is close to my house. Gas tends to be higher along the main highway I live off.
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Paid $2.69 for premium last night.
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I had to drive to Fresno yesterday, where the cheapest brand name gas I found was $3.07 at Valero for 87. It's running about $2.87 here.
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$2.229 for E-10 at the cheapest place in town.
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Slowly falling here, with many stations at $2.23-$2.24. Love's at the US321 and NC10 exit is at $2.20.
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Still $1.99 yesterday when I filled up.
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My go-to station was at $2.45 today, down from $2.49 earlier in the week. A station a couple of miles down the road was at $2.55, down from $2.59.
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Another weird price bump here. My usual station went from $2.21 to $2.31 overnight, and has now dropped back to $2.19 two days later.
Most other stations followed suit. And those that lead on the price increase have now dropped back to where they were previously just two days later.
A small few never increased their prices at all. The Love's at US231 and NC10 just dropped from $2.20 to $2.16, with no interim increase.
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Yeah, I've had something of a weird bump, too, locally...
The stations near my house has always been pretty close to others. The Citgo went from $2.39 to $2.41 the other day, while the stations in Arlington near Castle Key have all been dropping, and are now in the low $2.20s. I don't understand that one.
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Filled for 2.08 yesterday
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2.52, yesterday.
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2.52, yesterday.
Well, there's a blast from the past. How have you been, sir?
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My 'go to' station dropped from $2.17 to $2.11 overnight.
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I was in Central Pennsylvania last weekend, and man, the communists in charge of the state's finances have really put the screws to the subjects.
Lowest price I saw was in the $2.60s, highest price I saw was $2.89, both for regular.
Pennsylvania, by a pretty wide margin, has the highest state gas taxes in the nation -- 58.2 cents a gallon, which is far higher than even California's -- and that's on top of the Federal tax, and every time you turn around the commie in chief is bitching about how the gas tax needs to go up again to pay for all the *expletive deleted*it he wants to give away for free, I guess.
And you wouldn't believe how much higher PA's diesel fuel tax is... It's insane.
I'm seriously rethinking my desire to move back to PA after I retire.
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It was $1.91 this morning south of Houston.
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My "go to" station that dropped to $2.11 Monday has now risen to $2.21. The Love's rose from $2.16 to $2.18. I don't know yet if other stations have followed suit.
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My "go to" station was at $2.45 on Monday morning (December 18), and it was $2.40 this morning (December 20). Took a different route home th8is evening, and found that my number two station is at $2.38.
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$2.32 this AM. $2.61 heading home from dinner at a local pub tonight. Must be getting close to a holiday or something.
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$2.39 at Thornthon's in West Chicago after my Dr appt this morning.
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$2.32 this AM. $2.61 heading home from dinner at a local pub tonight. Must be getting close to a holiday or something.
It's interesting that we didn't have much of a run-up in prices here due to the Thanksgiving holiday. It's possible that what we're seeing now is a Christmas bump, though.
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The station near my house has been considerably higher than the stations in Arlington where I drop Seren for day care. I paid $2.21 in Arlington yesterday morning. When I passed the station near my house yesterday morning it was $2.35 a gallon.
Last evening when I got home? It had gone up to $2.39.
Just not sure what's going on with gas prices, as it's NEVER been that far out of whack, and the gas in Arlington is normally more expensive.
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"Go to" place is up another six cents today to $2.27. The Love's that is almost always the cheapest in the area is up to $2.30 today.
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Uh. Here's it's dropped from ~$2.12 last weekend to $2.04 this evening.
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And it's now back down to $2.35.
Whatever.
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I was in Central Pennsylvania last weekend, and man, the communists in charge of the state's finances have really put the screws to the subjects.
Lowest price I saw was in the $2.60s, highest price I saw was $2.89, both for regular.
Pennsylvania, by a pretty wide margin, has the highest state gas taxes in the nation -- 58.2 cents a gallon, which is far higher than even California's -- and that's on top of the Federal tax, and every time you turn around the commie in chief is bitching about how the gas tax needs to go up again to pay for all the *expletive deleted*it he wants to give away for free, I guess.
And you wouldn't believe how much higher PA's diesel fuel tax is... It's insane.
I'm seriously rethinking my desire to move back to PA after I retire.
Saw gas in PA as low as $2.35/gal in a couple of places; passed one and had to fill up a little while later for $2.46.
Diesel was $3.40+ everywhere I looked there.
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Ugh. Price is starting to creep up again with the rise in oil prices.
Station near me had stalled at $2.35, but has gone up to $2.41.
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Paid $2.33 in Gary, IN on Sunday and Monday. $2.56 in Indy on Monday.
I haven't been out and around since getting home on Monday, since it's been so farking cold out.
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Still right around $2.80 for 87 here.
I hadn't been paying much attention to diesel prices since I sold my diesel, but holy moly, at Costco today I saw they were selling it for $3.49. That means regular stations are likely closer to $3.60-3.70. I think for a good while before this, it was neck and neck with 87.
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Paid $2.36 at the Pilot in Carol Stream last night. (That's after my $.03 discount).
THe Mobil on the way to work was $2.48, the BP $2.49. The Shell by me was $2.64, the Marathon $2.59, and the Exxon $2.51.
Meanwhile Venezuela's Oil Industry continues to auger in (https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-oil-industry-takes-a-fall-1516271401). Forecast is for output to drop another 300,000 barrels per day. Which is enough to make them unable to service their debt.
Meanwhile, OPEC producers are salivating at the chance to increase production without violating the cartel's output agreement. US Producers are also ramping up to seize market-share.
Meanwhile, US Oil Production will surpass Saudi Arabia's: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-crude-production-expected-to-surpass-saudi-arabia-in-2018-1516352405?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1
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I paid 2.849 for 91 no ethanol the other day in Mason City, IA.
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Prices have been creeping up around here, too. I paid $2.43 p.g. this morning. The Citgo near my house is up to $2.49 p.g.
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Prices went from $2.21 to $2.39 in Hickory, NC last week. Still creeping up.
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Holy hell. Last week my go-to station was $2.83. This morning it was $3.17. The Valero near it was $3.19 (in the $2.80s last week as well).
My first thought was that %*&*$ California snuck another gas tax in (given it's the first of the month and last week was still JAN, but I couldn't find anything on that.
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Prices have been going up all over with the rise in crude.
Up to the $2.50s and $2.60s at most stations near me.
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Prices have started to drop here in Northern Virginia.
The Citgo near my house went as high as $2.55, now it's back down to $2.41.
The price of oil has backed off some, as have gasoline futures, but WTI is still over $60 a barrel right now.
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We had seen prices fall to the $2.24 area last week, only to see them climb back up to $2.39 or more overnight. Now they are dropping again, down a few cents to $2.35.
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Gas finally crept back down to $2.27. It went back up to the $2.39 - $2.49 range last week, depending which station you were passing. Then again creeping back down just a few cents, as low as $2.37. Back up to $2.49 yesterday at my "go to" station,
and then it shot up to $2.64 today. I read the sign wrong. It's still $2.37 at my go to station. However, across the street at the other two stations it's $2.44 and $2.45. At the Love's down by the DC it's $2.49
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It's really starting to jump around here. Closing in on $2.60 average price.
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Earlier this week my go-to station was $2.49 for regular unleaded. Friday morning it was $2.55.
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I signed up for the Gas Buddy card. Linked to my debit card account. Gives me an automatic $.05 off every gallon. Sadly, I can't use my other discount cards (like at Pilot) with it. :'( :'(
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Gas was 2.39 when we got to Ft. Myers, Fl in Jan. When we left last week it was 2.59. It was 2.59 Through Ga, Tn, Ky, 2.69 in In and finally 2.79 in Michigan.
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Price jumped from $3.15 to $3.26 in the past week at Arco out here. Chevron's up to $3.65-3.89 in the 'burbs.
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Sort of plateaued out here in Northern Virginia in the $2.55-$2.59 range.
The Citgo near my house was up to $2.65 last week but dropped back to $2.59.
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It's been steadily creeping up around here. I paid $2.72 the other day. There are many stations that are at $2.99. mostly because they are afraid to break that $3.00 psychological barrier.
Meanwhile, Russia and OPEC agree to continue production cuts (which is killing Russia's economy as Oil exports are down and that's a big part of Russia's economy).
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-oil-minister-president-trump-spar-over-oil-prices-1524243020?ns=prod/accounts-wsj
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Slow creep here, too. I paid $2.65 a gallon this morning. It's at $2.99 at the one expensive station near me.
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It hit $2.65 around here yesterday. Love's was at $2.74 briefly last week, then went back down to $2.64.
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$3.60ish in CA most of the way up to Nevada today. $2.90 in Northern NV. All for 87, brand name. I'm on my way to Idaho tomorrow, so we'll see what it is up there.
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Holy crap. $3.15 in Southeastern Idaho. I couldn't believe it so did some news searches. Idaho is apparently the 10th highest state right now and the highest in the Rocky Mountain region. Prices went up nearly 50 cents in the last month.
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I saw a couple stations at $3.04 and $3.05 yesterday. Oil continues to creep up. Time to buy more Diamond Offshore and Trans-Ocean.
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Lovely, prices are moving up just in time for my trip to Iowa.
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Man, I think I'm selling half of my BP today and taking profits. Three year high and I bought it for $28.60 during that mini-crash in FEB of '16. I'd consider selling it all, but it has that juicy 5% dividend. I'll buy some back if oil takes a big drop again, otherwise just hold it and see if the other half hits that high of 2007 again.
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I paid $2.80 in Gary, In and $2.75 in Indy over the weekend. Gas around here is hovering between $2.90 and $3.0x
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It's up into the $2.70s here at most stations in Northern Virginia, with some of them pushing over $3. Jumping gas prices, just in time for my driving trip to Iowa. Wheeeee....
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$ 3.15/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.69 this morning. Lubbock, TX.
Brad
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$2.95 at my go-to station, both this morning and this afternoon.
Friday (May 11), it was $2.84 when I went by at around 8:00 a.m. Went by at around 3:00 p.m. and it was $2.95, so the price jumped 11 cents in 7 hours. That's the biggest fluctuation I've seen (in either direction) for as long as I can remember.
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On Friday, May 18, my go-to station was at $2.99 for regular. Monday, May 21, it was $3.02.
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I'm on i70 in Ohio. Paid 2.85 a gal, but am now seeing it pushing 300.
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Everyplace is well over $3.00 with most in the $3.1x's. I did manage to get fuel for $2.72 a week ago at the Pilot in Carol Stream. I should have filled up all the gas cans in the garage... :facepalm:
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$2.67 to $2.71 around here and still rising.
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I filled up for $2.57 yesterday.
The little bait, beer and gas station by the lake where I get my sailboat gas has "no alcohol" gas for $3.10, It was under $3.00 when I got 2 gallons for the boat last Friday.
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I'm on i70 in Ohio. Paid 2.85 a gal, but am now seeing it pushing 300.
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If you can, fill up before you cross Illinois and fill up again a couple exits into Iowa. Iowa City, IA has some of the highest gas prices in Iowa.
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My go-to station is still at $3.02. Curiously, my number two station was at $2.96 this morning (May 22). I was low driving home from a meeting this evening and I stopped at a station that's not on any of my usual routes. They were at $2.99.
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I paid 2.289 for e-85 this am
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Prices are well over $3 a gallon at most stations in Northern Virginia.
When I was in Iowa prices actually started to slip a little bit. Oil has slipped quite a bit off its high over the last week or so.
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May 30, 2018, mid-day:
Price at my usual "go to" station was $3.059 for unleaded regular. Price at what I consider my second choice was $3.129 (Exxon a half mile down was $3.119.) Found a no-name station near the VA hospital at $2.999.
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Down to $2.60 now that we're over the Memorial Day spike.
Predicted to drop some more in coming days.
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paid $2.75 at the Iowa-80 truckstop, then $2.79 near Bumblefark, IA*. The stations here in Kearney, NE are at $2.89
* - Just below 1/2 tank. Ohhhh, there's a Flying J. Get gas, and we're back on the road....
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I passed that truck stop on my way to Cedar Rapids and on the way home. Didn't stop.
Suitably impressed at how big it is.
What really surprised me is how good the coffee is at the Casey's General Store chain.
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May 30, 2018, mid-day:
Price at my usual "go to" station was $3.059 for unleaded regular. Price at what I consider my second choice was $3.129 (Exxon a half mile down was $3.119.) Found a no-name station near the VA hospital at $2.999.
And, one day later, the "go to" station is back down to $2.999, the [now former] second choice is UP to $3.159, and the no-name near the VA hospital is $2.979.
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Stations near me at between 2.56 and the mid 2.60's depending what part of town I'm going through.
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I passed that truck stop on my way to Cedar Rapids and on the way home. Didn't stop.
Suitably impressed at how big it is.
What really surprised me is how good the coffee is at the Casey's General Store chain.
- The one on I-80?
- That's what she said.
- In Minnesota, the coffee at KwikTrip convenience stores is amazingly good. Supposedly in Iowa the same stores are called KwikStar and sell the same coffee, but they must be in the eastern part of the state cuz I haven't seen any.
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$3.07 in St George Utah today for 87.
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Yes, the world's largest truck stop on I-80.
I didn't see any KwikStar convenience stores...
The only other ones I noticed (that weren't part of a gas station chain) were Kum & Go (that's what she said!) and Kwik Stop.
I also stopped at a couple of Love's Travel Stops in Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio. They had decent coffee, but nothing to write home about.
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What really surprised me is how good the coffee is at the Casey's General Store chain.
We are blessed here in Iowa several gas station brands that serve good coffee.
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Prices have started to ease just a bit here in Northern Virginia, now in the low to mid $2.80s at most stations.
The unreasonable ones are still well above $3.00
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Dropping in Jersey too. Paid $3.33 for super last night, down about 20 cents since Memorial Day.
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June 6: Go-to station $2.999. [Former] #2 station $3.129. I wasn't in the area of the station below the VA hospital so no report on that.
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Saw $2.51 for regular today.
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We've dropped a nickle or so in my area of NC over the last couple of weeks.
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After several months of going up, gasoline is finally going down at SOME of the stations in the area.
I paid $2.69 this morning. The Citgo near my house, though, is still stuck at $2.83, and the Exxon near where I do my shopping is still at $3.29 (ludicrous).
OPEC is meeting today to talk about expanding production limits.
So, of course, crude prices are going up today, which makes no sense because it's a given that OPEC will expand output, just not by how much.
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So, of course, crude prices are going up today, which makes no sense because it's a given that OPEC will expand output, just not by how much.
Just heard on the news while reading your post, 1 million barrels per day.
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Yep, and crude, gasoline, and heating oil futures are continuing to go up in spite of the prospect of increased supply.
Not sure what the hell that's all about.
And it still doesn't factor in the increasing American production.
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June 21 -- My usual "go to" station was $2.979 for regular unleaded. The two no-name stations near the VA hospital were both $2.999.My [former] second choice station was $3.129. That's a Gulf station, operated by a quick stop type franchise. Curiously, I also went past another of that same franchise's stations about 20 miles north, and that one was at $2.999. I have no idea why two stations run by the same company and selling the same brand of gas would be so far apart on price.
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Prices had been creeping up again around here, slowly, to where they were a few months ago -- in the $2.70s for most stations to in the $3s for the unreasonable ones.
Well, that may change somewhat suddenly.
The increasing trade war has WTI crude and gasoline futures down by over 5 percent each today, and more than a few of the analysts I'm reading think that's going to continue for a while as prospects of the trade war harming production become clearer.
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$2.60 -ish around here now .
Been driving a Ford CNG Fucos at work. What a piece of crap set up.
Only has a 200 mile range and the nearest CNG station is almost 10 miles out of my usual route in town.
The car is gutless on the highway.
OK for in the city I suppose. Plus side is it only costs around $8 to fill it.
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$2.90 in Northern Nevada. $3.10 in the Boise area. Down around $0.15 from what I paid in those areas last month
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July 11 -- My "go to" station was at $2.929. My (former) #2 station was at $3.129. I passed several other stations that were in between those two (as well as some that were higher than $3.129 :eek:
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Everything around here is $2.96 to $3.05 with $2.99 being the sweet spot.
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July 26: My "go to" station was 2.859 for unleaded regular. Two other stations were at $2.899.
My [now former} #2 was at $3.099 (down from $3.129 a couple of days before).
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We're hovering around $2.53 at the stations we frequent the most. Love's at the US321 where I turn off for work bumped up five cents to $2.66. They are pretty volatile for some reason, going up and down out of sync with the rest of the stations in the area.
edited to correct Love's gas price
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Prices around here have been kind of weird lately.
Some stations are going down while other stations are going up. They seem to be on different sine curves. It's odd.
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In the last week we've been in Dallas, Tyler and quite a few small towns between, all the stations I can recall were pricing the cheap stuff between $2.40 & $2.49.
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Bumped up about 12 cents in the area today, averaging $2.65 at our usual stations. Wish I had filled up the truck yesterday.
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I've know folks to drive an additional 15-20 minutes to save $0.10 per gallon, in a car with a max tank size of 15 gal. It's just not worth it to me - a $1.50 or less savings ain't worth that much. Even saving $2.50 for the truck isn't worth the time & aggravation.
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$2.59 as of yesterday afternoon.
Was $2.48 Yesterday morning, I planned to wait till the drive home to fill up.
:facepalm:
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Yesterday the Mobil and BP were at $2.81 and $2.83 respectively.
Today the Mobil is unchanged and the BP is at $3.15.
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I just drove through IL, IN, OH, WV and VA. $2.76 was the price in IL. Shockingly, IN was higher (growing up it was ALWAYS cheaper than IL, taxes must have gone up.) OH was cheaper at 2.71. WV was more expensive.
VA was $2.41.
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Depends on where in Illinois. The Northeast corner is part that jacks you with county and city taxes in addition to the usual Federal, State and Sales taxes.
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$2. 77 at the Pilot in Gary Indiana Saturday $2.85 at the pilot on Handing in Indianapolis today then $2.85 again at the Pilot in Gary Indiana
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Gas had been going down for awhile... It had dropped back into the $2.50s...
Now it's going up again.
Sigh.
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Been hovering between $2.73-$2.77 for a while here. Since It's the off season and I'm not traveling much, I fill-up about once a month.
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It's been hovering around $2.51 here for about three weeks. That usually indicates the current decline in prices is over. I expect it will climb 10-12 cents any day now.
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My "go to" station was $2.89 yesterday, and another station across town was $2.89 today. Most others are around $3.05. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that it has gone well above $3.00 everywhere by now.
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This morning, it was $2.99/gallon unleaded at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle. The price has gone up five cents per gallon since last week.
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Most stations here (S.E. MN) are 2.69 per gallon. Costco and Fleet Farm are 2.61.
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2.43 at my local Sam's club last Saturday.
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$2.63 last I noticed.
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I passed one station the other day in my area of Northern Virginia where it was $3.27.
That's 50 cents a gallon higher than the station near me. The reason I think they can get away with that at that station is that it's the only one along about a 5 mile stretch of major road.
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Gas jumped six cents here yesterday to $2.57. It usually jumps 10-12 cents at a whack, but sometimes the increases come multiple smaller increments. I expect we'll see another six or seven cent jump in a few days.
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$2.68 at the pump at Thornton's in West Chicano...err West Chicago. With $.05/per gallon off for using my Gasbuddy card and $.06 off per gallon using my Thornton's discount card, I effectively paid $2.57. Which is $.40-$.50 less then just about everywhere else around here.
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Most places are in the high $2.80's with some as much as $3.05. I paid $2.65 at Pilot in Carol Stream. List price was $2.73, but $.03/gallon off for using my Pilot discount card and $.05/gallon for using the Gas Buddy card linked to my debit account, and I saved $1.04 on the 13 gallons I bought.
Highly recommend the Gas Buddy card. I save $.05 per gallon every time I use it to buy gas.
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I paid $2.61 this morning. It's bouncing around in a fairly tight band the last couple of weeks. But, it will be going up soon because the price of crude has been creeping up.
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Prices are continuing to trend upward in this area. Depending on the station, $2.57 to $2.74.
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$ 2.99 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Mammoth, CA:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1919/43219304930_a1c0fdcccf_z.jpg)
Luckily I figured it where I should only have to fill up one more time while I'm here and then will be able to just make it to where it's almost $1 cheaper.
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Don't you know that high gas prices are a BENEFIT to living in California?
Along with insanely high prices for everything else?
And all for perhaps the least responsive, least beneficial level of state services in the nation?
WHY DON'T YOU FEEL BLESSED?
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Oil is over $80 a barrel, and OPEC is standing pat on production even with the upcoming loss of Iranian oil in the market. Venezuela is a basket case and only getting worse. Illinois probably produces more oil then VZ.
Anyway at $80 the small(er) American producers will be pumping out oil along with the shale producers. Just what the Saudi's fear most. The good news is that there's been a lot of consolidation so American producers don't need insanely high prices to make a profit. Their breakpoint is around $55-$60 a barrel (or less in some cases), so the glut that OPEC is worried about come spring, may happen a bit sooner...
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Brent's over $80 a barrel, but WTI, which sets the US trading standard, is $73 and change right now, so given our ramped up production, prices aren't as bad as they could be.
But, I'm expecting oil prices to stay high for the time being, unfortunately.
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Went to Atlantic City, New jersey this weekend. I'll tell you what I'm NOT paying for gas, is $3.05 for someone else to pump my gas.
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$2.619 for e-15 this morning in Clear Lake, IA
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Prices are continuing to trend upward in this area. Depending on the station, $2.57 to $2.74.
The range bumped up to $2.64 to $2.84 last Tuesday.
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Yeah, the price at the station nearest my house went from $2.61 to $2.75 on Tuesday, as well.
I guess that was the change over from the more expensive summer gasoline to the more expensive winter gasoline...
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Around here for the last month the prices have seesawed back and forth from around $2.80 to $3.10 every couple days.
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2.689 for e-15 today in Clear Lake, IA.
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Filled up for $2.33 last night. I drive passed about 1/2 a dozen QTs on my way to work. Prices ranged from $2.33 to $2.69 for the same chain of stores.
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2.81 for E-15 yesterday in Charles City, IA.
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I saw "no alcohol" gas for $2.66
=D
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I saw "no alcohol" gas for $2.66
=D
No E is over $3 here. I only buy that for the air-cooled engines.
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Two days ago (October 12), my usual #1 station was closed for alterations. The [now former] #2 was at $3.129 (which went down to $3.109 a day later). The no-name station down the hill from the VA hospital was $2.939, as was a Shell station on the same block.
By the way, this is all for E-10, regular grade. There is no ethanol-free gasoline sold at automotive pumps anywhere in my state. A few hardware stores sell it in sealed 5-gallon cans -- for around $25/can.
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It's running around $2.89 here. I filled up last week for $2.71 at the Pilot in Carol Stream (Net after card discounts).
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By the way, this is all for E-10, regular grade. There is no ethanol-free gasoline sold at automotive pumps anywhere in my state. A few hardware stores sell it in sealed 5-gallon cans -- for around $25/can.
There has to, I have not seen a marina that doesn't sell non E gas. What about premium fuel, that is normally E free.
What state do you live in?
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There has to, I have not seen a marina that doesn't sell non E gas. What about premium fuel, that is normally E free.
That's why I stated "automotive" pumps. I don't know what the marinas sell. I do know the airports will not (maybe cannot) sell to anyone except directly into an aircraft.
ALL [automotive] pump gasoline here is E-10. Your "normally E free" may be normal for your state, but it isn't "normal" everywhere.
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$ 3.15/gallon yesterday at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Costco. Ethanol-free gas is very hard to come by here in Washington. There are a few listings on pure-gas.com, but last time I checked, there was only one auto pure gas supplier in the state, who gets it from a refinery in Wyoming, or something like that. Airports and marinas will generally not sell it if it is not being pumped directly into your airplane or boat.
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$ 3.15/gallon yesterday at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Costco.
Fascinating.
=D
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That's why I stated "automotive" pumps. I don't know what the marinas sell. I do know the airports will not (maybe cannot) sell to anyone except directly into an aircraft.
ALL [automotive] pump gasoline here is E-10. Your "normally E free" may be normal for your state, but it isn't "normal" everywhere.
what state do you live in?
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. Airports and marinas will generally not sell it if it is not being pumped directly into your airplane or boat.
Never had a problem with an "legal" red gas can. I just tell them it is for my boat and I have an small outboard engine.
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That's why I stated "automotive" pumps. I don't know what the marinas sell. I do know the airports will not (maybe cannot) sell to anyone except directly into an aircraft.
ALL [automotive] pump gasoline here is E-10. Your "normally E free" may be normal for your state, but it isn't "normal" everywhere.
From my time there I don't there is much of anything "normal" about Connecticut.
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Hmm, Gas prices today. on Roosevelt Rd in Wheaton/Glen Ellyn. Mobil and BP $2.65/gal. Shell $2.63. WTI is just below $70 and Brent is just over $80.
Interesting articles in the WSJ a few days back. There plenty of oil, it's just in the wrong places. Not enough transport (both pipeline and rail) to get Canadian oil to the East.
Meanwhile, China has cut back on imports from the US. From 350,000 bbl per day to almost zero. Oil is not subject to Chinese tariffs.
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$ 3.25/gallon at the Marysville Costco this morning, 40 miles north of Seattle. It has gone up $0.15/gallon over the past two weeks.
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I filled up last night for $2.33 for E10.
Non-ethanol was $2.65.
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It's been dropping here a bit the last 2 weeks.
It's still $2.75 at my local Citgo, but it's down to the low $2.60s at the stations I pass regularly in Arlington.
WTI dropped below $70 a barrel this week, so hopefully we'll see some additional reductions.
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Oh crap, I just remembered I need to fill up the car with gas tonight cuz I gotta give an old lady that lives across town a ride to church in the morning. Seeing this thread reminded me. Thanks!
...wait, it's Friday isn't it? Nevermind.
2.779 at Costco. On the way there I saw E15 for 2.509, which is a good price but I don't like to put that much ethanol in the 2010. (I do use it sometimes in the 2015 if the prices difference is that much)
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$2.879 for regular at a station in the opposite direction from where I usually get gas.
Had an appointment at the VA hospital on Wednesday morning. On the way to the hospital, price at the former #1 station was $3.099. On the way home two hours later, the same station was $3.069. Prices do seem to be dropping, even while the media tell me that prices are going up because TRUMP!!!!
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$2.62 last Saturday at Sam's Club.
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I've been driving around 110 mi round trip the last week, taking a couple different routes between Canton & Tyler TX. Been seeing prices anywhere from $2.39 to $2.89 for E10, from $2.89 to $3.29 for diesel.
We recently got a car that'll use E85, but I haven't seen any available on any of the routes.
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What's E85? 85 percent alcohol? Thank G-d that hasn't found its way into my state ... yet.
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What's E85? 85 percent alcohol? Thank G-d that hasn't found its way into my state ... yet.
To the best of my knowledge, Yep. I don't recall ever seeing a pump marked for it, but I haven't been out of the local area in a few years.
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$2.56 net after $.08 in discounts at Pilot in Carol Stream tonight
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What's E85? 85 percent alcohol? Thank G-d that hasn't found its way into my state ... yet.
Yes, 85% ethanol for flex fuel vehicles. My last work car was a flex fuel and since I work in agriculture I was required to only use e85 in it. It is still fairly rare to find in Iowa. I wore that car out and got issued a new one, it isn't a flex fuel, but has e10/15 label in the fuel cap. So work requires me to burn e10 or e15 depending on availability at the gas stations.
Since new flex fuel vehicles are getting harder to get, the e85 pumps may no expand as quickly as they were.
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There's a lot of E85 in Minnesota. Not sure why it's more prevalent here than in Iowa. It's a decent source of denatured alcohol, but I haven't tried using it for shellac thinner.
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There's a lot of E85 in Minnesota. Not sure why it's more prevalent here than in Iowa. It's a decent source of denatured alcohol, but I haven't tried using it for shellac thinner.
Minnesota is more progressive than Iowa.
Most BP, Kwik Star and Hyvee gas have e85 here, but not every town has those. I live in a town of 27,000 and there is only one e-85 station in the city limits. There are 8 ethanol plants within 45 miles of town and a pipeline terminal 5 miles away.
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I noticed $2.59 today. A couple weeks ago it was $3.13. The over $3 prices don't usually last long, only a day or so. It usually jumps from around $2.79 when it jumps over $3. Been steadily declining over the last week.
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When I was working, Obama passed some dumb ass regulation that required 75% of all fed.gov vehicle fleets to be composed of some kind of "alternative fuel" vehicles. I ended up having to order E85 vehicles from GSA to comply, even though there were no E85 stations within 1000 miles AFAIK.
It looked good for his alternative energy policies though, plus considering how many vehicles the gov buys, they were able to show an uptick in sales for flex fuel vehicles, even though probably only 5% of them actually used the "flex" fuel.
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My brother's car is E85 and he's had no problems finding it in Central & North Central Pennsylvania.
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E85 is garbage. Used it in my old truck once and the milage was lower and power sucked.
Speaking of PA...gas up in PA is 40 cents more expensive than here. No apparent reason. Just more expensive.
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E85 is garbage. Used it in my old truck once and the milage was lower and power sucked.
Speaking of PA...gas up in PA is 40 cents more expensive than here. No apparent reason. Just more expensive.
I wonder if they actually built an engine designed to run on e85 if mileage would be a lot better? There is so much loss with a gasoline engine compared to the energy value of the fuel (gasoline) used. There has to be a better way.
My experience with running 90% E-85 for 140,000 miles was lower MPG, but I had more power at the wheels. I had a 2013 Chyrsler 200 with the V6. I had close to 300hp and it loved he higher octane of E-85.
I got a buddy who builds twin turbo 4 cylinder cars, gets over 700 horsepower of then, loves e-85 to power his cars.
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"gas up in PA is 40 cents more expensive than here. No apparent reason. Just more expensive."
No apparent reason?
Well, when you realize that Pennsylvania has the HIGHEST gasoline taxes in the nation, at 58.2 cents a gallon on top of the Federal 18.4 cent per gallon tax, it becomes very apparent.
In 2014 the state gas tax was 31 cents.
Compare that to Virginia's gas tax, which is 22.4 cents per gallon.
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"gas up in PA is 40 cents more expensive than here. No apparent reason. Just more expensive."
No apparent reason?
Well, when you realize that Pennsylvania has the HIGHEST gasoline taxes in the nation, at 58.2 cents a gallon on top of the Federal 18.4 cent per gallon tax, it becomes very apparent.
In 2014 the state gas tax was 31 cents.
Compare that to Virginia's gas tax, which is 22.4 cents per gallon.
Wow. I thought for sure it would be CA (which the googles says in second). Even Hawaii's is lower. I can see states like WA being in the top five, but I would not have even considered PA being there, let alone #1.
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I filled up for $1.69/ gal on Saturday.
...because a BJ's just opened up here and had a special discount for new members.
I pretty much made back the cost of membership just by filling up both our cars.
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"gas up in PA is 40 cents more expensive than here. No apparent reason. Just more expensive."
No apparent reason?
Well, when you realize that Pennsylvania has the HIGHEST gasoline taxes in the nation, at 58.2 cents a gallon on top of the Federal 18.4 cent per gallon tax, it becomes very apparent.
In 2014 the state gas tax was 31 cents.
Compare that to Virginia's gas tax, which is 22.4 cents per gallon.
Jesus. And yet they still have toll roads and shitty roads.
*expletive deleted*ck gas taxes.
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The entire purpose of raising the gas tax so high was specifically to address the road issues in Pennsylvania. They were neglected for decades by a long string of both Democratic and Republican administrations.
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The entire purpose of raising the gas tax so high was specifically to address the road issues in Pennsylvania. They were neglected for decades by a long string of both Democratic and Republican administrations.
Government at all levels has been kicking the can down the road on everything they possibly can.
We've had (collectively) the worst governance in the history of the country, running off of accumulated capital and borrowing against the future to spend as much as possible in the now.
Apparently, we're planning to screw over the succeeding generations as much as we possibly can.
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The entire purpose of raising the gas tax so high was specifically to address the road issues in Pennsylvania. They were neglected for decades by a long string of both Democratic and Republican administrations.
And when times get lean, governments have proven repeatedly they're not beneath raiding funds dedicated to other projects.
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"...because a BJ's just opened up here and had a special discount for new members."
Errmm, you can get memberships for blow jobs where you live? Weird.
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$2.52 in Effingham county on Sunday ($2.47 after card discount)
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"...because a BJ's just opened up here and had a special discount for new members."
Errmm, you can get memberships for blow jobs where you live? Weird.
HEY! The first rule about BJ club is you don't talk about BJ club!
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"...because a BJ's just opened up here and had a special discount for new members."
Errmm, you can get memberships for blow jobs where you live? Weird.
THREE hours. It took 3 hours for that joke to be made.
I'm ashamed of all of you.
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Stations in Arlington where I go to drop off Seren are sitting at $2.59. The station near my house is refusing to budge, however, and is still at $2.75.
Better than where I work, though. The stations near my office are at $2.91 and $2.99.
Best of all, OARP got pummeled yesterday. WTI lost almost $3 a barrel, and it's looking like it's going to trend down again today. Gasoline futures also got smacked pretty hard.
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I paid $2.29 this morning.
Of course, to get that price I had to rack up $300 in groceries at my local chain that is partnered with Shell.
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I topped-off the tank yesterday with E15 for 2.479. No discounts, that was the price on the pump. Car was 3/4 full already; I'm starting a long trip today and wanted to start with a full tank.
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My go-to station is open again. Price for regular (E10) yesterday (25 October) was $2.819.
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$ 3.25/gallon yesterday afternoon at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle. It has remained at that price for the past two weeks now.
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Jumped up from $2.57 to $2.89 Wednesday here in W. Michigan. Fortunately, I filled 3 six gal tanks for my mower and snowblowers and SWMBOs car in the AM at $2.57. A couple hours later I went to top of my truck and $2.89.
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Got a tank full of E10 for $2.389 today.*
ETA*per gallon that is.
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2.559 for e-10 in Ankeny, IA
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Filled up for $2.29 for E10 about 20 minutes ago.
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Filled up for $2.29 for E10 about 20 minutes ago.
I did too, this morning at a Shell station in Oklahoma City. I saw it at another off-brand station for 2.219.
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Prices are continuing to slowly drop here in Northern Virginia. I paid $2.51 for regular this morning on my way to work. It's still at $2.65 at the Citgo near my house, though.
Prices should continue to move lower over the near term, I think, given that crude had its worst month in 2 years in October. That's being primarily pushed by concerns that the trade war with China will drive economic growth lower plus Saudi Arabia's plans to pump more crude.
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$2.79ish around me.
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It's dropped to around $2.53 to $2.57 in this area, with an outlier of two stations in Newton at $2.42. One is a Kangaroo, the second is a Chevron across the street. The Chevron is normally a dime higher than the Kangaroo. I think they may be engaged in a price war.
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Dropped four cents to $2.75 at the usual stations near me today...
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Paid $2.57 at the Pilot near me after $.08 in discounts.
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$ 3.19/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle. Down $0.06/gallon since last week.
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The stations near Castle Key's house that I talk about have dropped into the $2.40s.
The Citgo near my house? Still $2.60.
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The entire purpose of raising the gas tax so high was specifically to address the road issues in Pennsylvania. They were neglected for decades by a long string of both Democratic and Republican administrations.
They didn’t wait till the ink was dry on the tax hike bill before they started raiding it here in SC. I haven’t seen one *expletive deleted*ing single road project start yet that wasn’t already underway or scheduled long before it.
The governor vetoed it (he’s pretty good about looking out for the taxpayer) but he gets overridden by the foxes in the state house helping themselves to the funds
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$3.96 for the cheap stuff on Van Ness in Sand Clam Disco this morning. The smell of human urine is free, as always.
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$2.239 for e10 this morning.
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$2.759 at my go-to station this afternoon. The former go-to (and more recently #2 but rapidly taking themselves farther down the list) was $3.099
This was for E10 regular.
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E10 was $2.29, diesel was $2.90 today at Murphy's.
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The price had dropped overnight so it was $2.51 at my go-to station this afternoon when I filled up my truck. And about $1.50 worth of E10 spewed out on the ground when the auto-shutoff failed to work. It had gone back up to $2.53 when I passed by the station later in the evening. I wonder if they had to pay for the pump repairs.
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Filled up for $2.179 for E10 this morning.
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$2.41 at Pilot on North Ave, after $.08/gallon card discounts.
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Still dropping around here. Down to $2.42 - 2.46 at the lowest price stations in the area.
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I filled up this afternoon (E10/87) for $2.159 at a RaceTrac just off the freeway in Lindale.
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$2.21 at the Pilot in Effingham yesterday, $2.44 at Acee's in Goreville today.
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2.37 for E10 Mason City, IA
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Saw E10 for $2.08 this evening NE of Tulsa.
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This past weekend I went to Mathew County, Virginia, to visit friends who just moved there.
Gas prices were between 20-30 cents cheaper per gallon over Northern Virginia. Before I left town I tanked up for $2.24 a gallon.
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For God's sake...
Gas prices in Arlington, near Castle Key's old house, are on par with prices in Mathews county. I paid, IIRC, $2.27 a gallon to tank up at the BP on Saturday.
Prices in Fairfax, including the Citgo near me? $2.65.
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Saw $2.05 this morning
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$2.17 at the Pilot in Effingham (net $2.09 after discounts), $2.47 (net $2.39) at the Pilot in Bourbonais yesterday.
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WTI and Gasoline futures are in absolute free right now.
Heating oil, too.
Oil has dropped below $54 a barrel for the first time in months.
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$ 2.99/gallon 15 minutes ago at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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2.09/gal for Regular at Super 1 grocery yesterday.
Shreveport, LA
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WTI and Gasoline futures are in absolute free right now.
Heating oil, too.
Oil has dropped below $54 a barrel for the first time in months.
This headline says it all
"Oil extends sharp losses after Trump signals US won't punish Saudi Arabia after Khashoggi killing"
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I saw $2.03 on the way home tonight.
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It's amazing that less then a month ago, the WSJ column on energy prices was predicting higher oil prices due to the loss of Iranian oil, the continued decline in Venezuelan production and the Saudis hitting their ceiling of maximum production ability and now, oil prices are in free fall.
China has stopped import of US oil (IIRC 300,000 barrels per day), s we have that "glut" on the market. In addition, the consolidation of shale and domestic producers after the previous price collapses "thinned the herd", and allowed the more efficient producers to obtain those assets.
Now we have this: http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/texas-is-about-to-create-opecs-worst-nightmare/ar-BBPWgMM?ocid=ientp
Plus when we went through southern Illinois going to and from Johnson County, I saw every pump running. Usually they only are pumping when oil prices are high and they are shut down when prices are low. So here we are with prices dropping and they are still pumping. That's a real change.
Oh, and I prices I saw at the usual stations I pass on the way to work today were uniformly $2.29. I will not be surprised if prices drop below $2.00 in the near future.
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$1.99 NE of Tulsa tonight. Still seeing $2.09 in Tulsa metro.
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$2.29 at Pilot in Carol Stream (net $2.21 after card discounts).
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Paid $3.09 for super last night in northern NJ. Down 20 cents at the same station from three days ago. Unfortunately, now that they've switched to winter gas I'm getting about 40 fewer miles per tank in either car.
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Oil was slaughtered in trading today.
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$2.73 for 91 No E in Mason City, IA
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Was listening to local radio today and there are reports of it dropping below $2 a gallon in some areas of Virginia.
I saw it at $2.14 on my drive on Thursday
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$1.96 last night.
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$2.23 at the three stations on Roosevelt on my way to work today. Down $.06 from 3 days ago.
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saw 2.16 on the way home from bird hunting for e15
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$2.19 at the pilot in Carol Stream on the way home from work tonight.
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$2.01 posted in SE TN yesterday. Price has been steadily coming down. Don't know what it is today. You add the membership discounts and you can approach $1.90 or there abouts. $0.03 is a pretty easy discount to get.
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$2.00 at my local station and my AAA Master Card gives me 5% off in addition to that. I've been filling up at 3/4 full for the last couple days. Too bad my five 5 gal tanks for the snowblower got filled up a couple weeks ago at $2.83.
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According to gasbuddy it's still in the $2.50s at the station near my house, while a few miles away in Arlington it's $2.19.
I'm going to start tanking up in Arlington if this keeps up.
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I filled up at a Murphy's for $2.06 for E10. Went shopping in Walmart, the price had dropped to $2.03 by the time I came out of the store.
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Station nearest the house was at 1.98 this morning
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How long before the policritters take this opportunity to raise the fuel taxes? [ar15]
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$1.90 for E10.
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Buck ninety three as of this morning. Lubbock, TX.
Brad
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Saw quite a few stations under $2.00 for E10, the lowest was $1.91 in Lindale TX at the Raceway by I20. Lowest diesel was around $2.80ish.
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The Citgo near my house finally dropped to $2.49 a gallon in the last day or so.
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I saw $2.01-$2.02 at a couple of stations having a price war in Newton the other day. Other stations in the area are in the $2.23 range for the most part.
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$1.89 This morning
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$1.90 here in Shreveport, LA
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Saw $1.85 last night.
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I paid 2.149 last night.
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$1.97
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$2.93/gallon this evening at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.19 at Pilot in Carol Stream, IL ($2.11 net after discounts). I got a report from Gas Buddy that says by using their card, I saved $20 this year. That's ~10 gallons of free gas. All for doing more then swiping a card.
"Keep track of the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves" - Ben Franklin.
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Below $3 a gallon, at $2.99 for the first time in a long time.
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$1.89
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1.859/gal. Bossier City, LA
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Nice.
The station near my house is now down to $2.43. Still WAY too damned expensive. I'm thinking it's a case of "rich county/town" pricing.
The Exxon near where I do my grocery shopping, which is the only station on that strip for several miles in either direction, is still sitting at $2.99 a gallon.
According to GasBuddy the lowest gas prices in Virginia is $1.77 a gallon and the average is $2.22. That's for regular.
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In the last two trading days WTI, the US benchmark for crude oil, has shed almost $6 a barrel and at the moment is trading at $46.17, its lowest in a year.
Gasoline and heating oil futures are following the price of oil and both are also at near lows for the past year.
And, there's really nothing on the horizon to really turn it around.
The guy in this video is talking about a hold point that's almost $1 in the rearview mirror, so I'm not sure that we've seen the bottom of this. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-18/oil-dives-lower-as-surging-u-s-output-overshadows-opec-curbs
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1.98 this am for e10
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We're at $2.11-$2.13 at our usual go-to stations. The two stations in Newton are still having their price war, but their prices have held steady at $1.98 for the last week.
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Holy hell. $4.13 driving through Kettleman City, CA this morning (no, I did not get gas). Still $2.99 at home. I'm in Santa Barbara today where it's $3.60.
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Holy hell. $4.13 driving through Kettleman City, CA this morning (no, I did not get gas). Still $2.99 at home. I'm in Santa Barbara today where it's $3.60.
Another joy of California -- the mandate that only gasoline refined in California can be sold in California. Add in California's gasoline cleanliness standards, taxes, and some charges that no one can can really explain (https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/01/why-are-gas-prices-so-high-in-california/) and you have the highest gasoline prices in the contiguous United States...
But what's the response? BLAME EVIL OIL COMPANIES!
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What was $2.03 at the three stations late last week, and Monday of this week is now $2.35 the weekend before the Christmas travel holiday...
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Citgo near my house has dropped 15 cents in the past 2 weeks, most of that in the last 3 days. Now down to $2.35.
Going to be interesting to see what it is where I'm heading for Christmas...
Actually, Gas Buddy says that at least one station in that area has dropped below $2 a gallon, and several others are at the bitter edge.
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Last week regular at my go-to station was $2.519. Early this week it was $2.579. Yesterday it was back to $2.519 ... and I drove by a recently re-branded no-name station in an area of town I rarely go through that was at $2.499 yesterday.
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Just paid $2.06 at my usual go-to station on the way home from work. Down from $2.11 in last few days.
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Locally we had dropped to $1.84 then it spiked back to $1.99 a few days ago. Filled up this morning and its dropped back.to $1.93.
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Just spent the past week in central Coastal Virginia. Most of the stations were in the mid to high $1.90s, but a few were still over $2 a gallon.
Best price I saw on my drive home was $1.86.
Now that I'm back home in DC metro the Citgo near my house is $2.25.
Joy.
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1.85 for E-10, 2.40 for 91 no E, Mason City, IA.
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I paid $1.79 today.
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I paid $1.79 today.
Same.
Brad
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New station opened in the area just before Christmas. They have been selling gas really cheap, all the way down to $1.17, which started a bit of a price war in the immediate area. In general, prices are a bit higher than that. Paid $1.49 on the way to work this morning. Last week at the in-laws in upstate New York, paid $2.89.
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Prices are stuck at $1.99 here, except I've seen E15 at $1.75.
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Saw $1.77 this morning.
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it was 2.65 last time - near Fernley NV
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Thortons on Roosevelt Rd in West
Chicano errr, Chicago. $1.94*. First time since the 1990's, I've seen gas under $2.00 in Illinois.
(before any discounts. I ended paying $1.88/gal net.)
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1.78 e-10 Ankeny, Ia
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New station opened in the area just before Christmas. They have been selling gas really cheap, all the way down to $1.17, which started a bit of a price war in the immediate area. In general, prices are a bit higher than that. Paid $1.49 on the way to work this morning. Last week at the in-laws in upstate New York, paid $2.89.
Forgot to post yesterday. Price war over. Prices jumped on the 3rd to $2.09. This morning they were at $1.98. So much for the cheap gas...
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The Citgo near my house dropped from $2.25 to $2.19 yesterday.
But, crude oil and gasoline are on the move up, so we may be seeing the last of the downward trend for awhile.
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This past Monday all the local stations jumped about 14 cents to $2.09 on average. The rising price of oil finally caught up with us.
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We're at $2.10. Last week I filled both vehicles. One at $1.93 and other at $1.83. We pay 60.8 cents a gallon in state and fed tax per gallon.
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It's slowly creeping up here in Northern Virginia.
The Citgo near my house bottomed out at $2.09 and has since risen to $2.17.
The Exxon near where I do most of my shopping? Still at $2.99. Absolutely ludicrous, but it's the only gas station on about a 5 mile stretch of road.
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$ 2.49/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle. The last time it was this low was in October 2017.
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Interestingly the Citgo near my house dropped 2 cents.
WTI is still in the $52-54 a barrel range right now, and has been hovering there for a bit. I'm actually sort of surprised, as I expected it to be about $10 a barrel higher right now.
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Saw it was $2.73 here in Vegas on Monday.
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Average price around here jumped 17 cents yesterday to $2.25.
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Well, prices have been on the move. I don't think that's a surprise to anyone. Crude is pushing $60 a barrel and it's time to switch the more expensive winter blend gasoline for the more expensive summer blend gasoline.
Prices have gone up about 20 cents a gallon in the past 3 weeks here in Northern Virginia.
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Volatile is right. We're in the $2.35 to $2.55 range all over the local area. That's up from around $2.18 just a couple of weeks ago.
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Up over 20 cents per gallon over the past two weeks here north of Seattle. I paid $2.73/gallon at the Marysville Costco today.
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Up to $2.45 here this morning
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Was 2.999 last week, now $3.199 this week. And that's for the cheap stuff.
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Thought I'd revisit this...
Since the last post a couple of months ago prices topped out in the $2.79 range at the Citgo near my house and have retreated to $2.69. There are still some outlier stations, like the Exxon I've talked about, where the price is still over $3 a gallon because it's the only station for about a 4 mile stretch of busy road.
Over the past 2 months crude has drawn back, dropping almost $10 a barrel, and gasoline futures have been trading consistently lower. In mid to late April it topped out around $2.10 a gallon. Today futures are trading around $1.75 a gallon.
Even better, Bloomberg energy is now predicting that not only will prices start to slump in the coming weeks, finally catching up with falling futures, but given the softening international economy and ongoing trade issues, the IEA is expected to predict a much lower demand in 2020 than was previously expected...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-09/bulls-beware-the-2020-oil-market-is-quickly-turning-ugly
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It's been $3.25 in southwest Idaho for the last few weeks, but I just now filled up at Costco for $3.05 for 87.
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It's been $3.25 in southwest Idaho for the last few weeks, but I just now filled up at Costco for $3.05 for 87.
Wow, Idaho is expensive.
We've been at $2.40-ish for most places, but BJs (Costco competitor) is at $2.22 today.
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Wow, Idaho is expensive.
We've been at $2.40-ish for most places, but BJs (Costco competitor) is at $2.22 today.
Idaho, like WA likes to tack on the taxes to gas. :(
Not the most but far from the lowest.
bob
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Idaho, like WA likes to tack on the taxes to gas. :(
Not the most but far from the lowest.
bob
Also, at least if the news is to be believed, refineries in the Rockies always shutting down for one thing or another create spikes.
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Also, at least if the news is to be believed, refineries in the Rockies always shutting down for one thing or another create spikes.
I still fill up every time I go to Idaho, it runs an avg of 15-20 cents less a gallon than right across the border in WA.
bob
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I still fill up every time I go to Idaho, it runs an avg of 15-20 cents less a gallon than right across the border in WA.
bob
Yeah, everytime I drive to Ontario, OR, I see it's about $0.25 more per gallon as soon as you cross the border. Though with OR, I'm not sure how much of that is enviro taxes and how much is paying for someone to pump your gas.
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$ 3.09 on last Saturday at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle. That is a drop of about $ 0.15/gallon over the past two weeks.
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$2.27 this morning around the Tulsa area.
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We peaked at around $2.85 at a small number of stations in the Hickory area, though $2.69 was more the norm. Now we're around $2.29 most places that we buy.
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Also, at least if the news is to be believed, refineries in the Rockies always shutting down for one thing or another create spikes.
Too qoute someone here, "They are switching over from the more expensive winter blend to the more expensive summer blend."
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Too qoute someone here, "They are switching over from the more expensive winter blend to the more expensive summer blend."
I was referring to outside of blend switches. The week of the switch to Summer blend, we went from $2.70 to $3.00, then slowly up from there.
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I just filled up at Costco a half hour ago for 2.499 a gallon. I don't remember exactly what it was, but about $2.65 last week.
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2.499 in town, probably 2.30 something out on the interstate. We're weird because the filling stations on the interstate have a constant gas war with each other. Town is 7 miles from I-35, so no gas war here.
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I was referring to outside of blend switches. The week of the switch to Summer blend, we went from $2.70 to $3.00, then slowly up from there.
Probably maintenance. The WSJ has been reporting that the stocks of crude and especially distillates here in the US have been climbing for the past several weeks, putting pressure on storage capacity (and prices). If they have full tanks, they can shut down until stocks deplete, and they can get some maintenance in.
I paid $2.70 at the Pilot in Carol Stream on Monday.
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Crude and gasoline futures are getting pummeled this morning. Apparently the markets are gearing up for a big jump in the US stockpile figures.
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$3.96 for regular in downtown San Francisco.
The smell of pot, urine, and *expletive deleted*it is still free, though.
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$3.96 for regular in downtown San Francisco.
The smell of pot, urine, and *expletive deleted*it is still free, though.
And all the hypodermic needles you can step on !!!
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We've been bouncing around between $2.95 and $2.70 for several weeks. The nearby gas station I go to, has been price cutting everybody by at least 30-40 cents a gallon. It was $2.77 at 3 places I drove by today and $2.48 at my station. The other day he was $2.54 and everyone else was $2.95.
This morning I hit it just right and got into an empty bay before 3 other guys could. Filled up the truck and 3 gas cans for the mower. Usually every time I drive by the 4 bays are full with at least 3 vehicles waiting behind in each bay. I am a bit puzzled by that tactic and the owner of the station has been doing that for over a month now. Maybe he's laundering drug money and can afford to take a big loss on gas...or the other guys are gouging.
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We've been bouncing around between $2.95 and $2.70 for several weeks. The nearby gas station I go to, has been price cutting everybody by at least 30-40 cents a gallon. It was $2.77 at 3 places I drove by today and $2.48 at my station. The other day he was $2.54 and everyone else was $2.95.
This morning I hit it just right and got into an empty bay before 3 other guys could. Filled up the truck and 3 gas cans for the mower. Usually every time I drive by the 4 bays are full with at least 3 vehicles waiting behind in each bay. I am a bit puzzled by that tactic and the owner of the station has been doing that for over a month now. Maybe he's laundering drug money and can afford to take a big loss on gas...or the other guys are gouging.
Gets people in the store to buy the high profit returns like coffee, fountain drinks and hot dogs.
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Well, so much for yesterday's drop.
Apparently overnight two tankers were damaged in what is being called attacks, and oil and gasoline futures have recovered everything they lost yesterday.
Anyone want to take a bet on who did it? Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?
Da Jooze? That's right! Thank you, Rep. Omar... (she's not said anything, actually, but if she does...)
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I paid $3.25 for super last night leaving the golf course, roughly 25 cents less than when I filled up there three days ago. Apparently that station owner doesn't watch the news...
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$2.37 at Costco
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Yeah, everytime I drive to Ontario, OR, I see it's about $0.25 more per gallon as soon as you cross the border. Though with OR, I'm not sure how much of that is enviro taxes and how much is paying for someone to pump your gas.
So I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm sure I saw that price difference over the last month at least, but going there yesterday it was only three cents higher than here.
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I filled up Friday morning for $2.22. On my way home it had dropped to $2.18. ;/
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$2.119 at WalMart's Murphy Oil yesterday. Had a discount on top of that for using their "Murphy Drive" app!
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Last Thursday I paid 2.479 a gallon at a station near Mtnbkr's place. It's still $2.699 at the Citgo near my house.
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Dropped.to $2.14 in Tulsa. I've got to fill up this evening so I'm expecting it to jump up.
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Dropped a dime. 2 59.
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$ 3.09/gallon this morning at the Woodinville Costco on Seattle's Eastside.
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Dropped.to $2.14 in Tulsa. I've got to fill up this evening so I'm expecting it to jump up.
I was pleasantly surprised, $2.16 where I usually fill up.
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Dropped a bit more to $2.19 at our go-to stations in Hickory right now.
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Only a very slight drop here in the last week. $2.99 at Costco this morning. On the bright side, it's the first time we've been below $3 since mid-May.
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$2.07 spotted this morning on my commute, which is refreshing.
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NPR news yesterday said that there is a glut of oil, but Saudi's are trying to keep the barrel price just under the price where US fraking operations start kicking in, iirc is around $65 a barrel.
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2.06.9 at Murphy Oil (WalMart) in Shreveport, LA.
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So, Iran shoots down a US Navy drone and oil prices are going ape *expletive deleted*it this morning.
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Saw $2.09 this morning in Tulsa, my luck it'll spike by the time I need to fill up this evening.
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Jumped from $2.18 to $2.65 in one shot at my usual station just after I filled up this morning. Other local stations went to $2.39 or thereabouts yesterday.
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Holy crap! I was moaning about a 10 cent a gallon jump at the Citgo near my house... It's up to $2.699.
All of the long-term predictions are that it's still a bleak outlook for oil producing nations and that we should see steadily declining prices once the Iran thing settles down.
Of course members of the Free Government Cheese party are screeching about how Trumpy Bear is single handedly pulling us into a war with Iran.
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Up to $2.39 from $2.16 four days ago.
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Seems to be holding steady right now ahead of the 4th of July.
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$ 3.03 this morning at the Marysville Costco 45 miles north of Seattle.
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Back up to $3.36 today. I guess they're trying to raise it before the holiday weekend so they don't get in trouble for gouging... That was my first $55 fill up in quite a while.
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Filled up today at Pilot for $2.85 a gallon, tomorrow the Illinois Fuel tax goes up $.19 per gallon.
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Been awhile since we've looked at this.
Oil prices have been bouncing around quite a bit this summer and fall, but gasoline prices haven't really moved that much.
The Citgo near my house is still sitting at $2.55 a gallon. I found a Sunoco near my new office that had it at $2.34 a gallon, but after the Saudi refinery attack and price jump a few weeks ago it went up into the .$2.40s.
What really surprised me is that after the Saudi attack crude and gasoline futures prices skyrocketed. I was expecting a fast run up in gasoline prices, but that never really happened.
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We saw a bump of ten to twenty cents after the attack on the Saudi facilities, but like in your area Mike, it took a week or better to kick in. The bump wasn't consistent, with differing increases around the area, and some stations took quite a bit longer to raise their prices than others.
It was strange given that historically price increases due to supply disruptions have been pretty much immediate.
We reached high thirties, low forties for prices, and they have since dropped back to low thirties, high twenties pretty much everywhere.
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In my area, Costco is at the low end at $ 2.91 and Chevron/Shell/Union is at the high end at $ 3.49-3.60.
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Last I looked was $2.22.
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We've been pretty steady for the last several weeks here. Around $2.75 in my podunk town and around $2.65 at the Costco.
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$2.22 in town for 10% E
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$4.30 on the mean streets of San Francisco.
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Shot up to $2.90 ($2.80 at Costco) here last week. I guess Winter blend switch? I should check that. I need tractor fuel and don't want to fill up on the last of the Summer diesel blend.
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2.149 for e10 here
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Filled up.for $2.139 this morning.
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$ 3.13/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Back to $2.36 at the station near my office, and dropped to $2.45 at the Citgo near my house.
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We jumped 23 cents to around $2.45 late last week. I'm sure they're switching over from the more expensive summer blends to the more expensive winter blends.
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We jumped 23 cents to around $2.45 late last week. I'm sure they're switching over from the more expensive summer blends to the more expensive winter blends.
:laugh:
I just got back from a grocery run into town, and dang if it isn't $2.97 now.
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Gas prices continue to move in very weird ways... And the price of oil has been sine waving between about $53 and $57 for a couple of weeks.
The Citgo near my house seems to be in an odd cycle of randomly changing the price between $2.39 and $2.45 a gallon. Only those two prices, nothing in between. And it seems that it will change 2 and 3 times in a single day.
The Exxon near my office, which is one of the cheapest stations I've found in my area, jumped up to $2.44 a gallon last week. This week it started out at $2.39.
Yesterday it dropped to $2.34.
Today it's $2.29.
The Sunoco a street nearer to my office?
It's been sitting resolutely at $2.59 for the past 2 weeks.
And the Exxon near my house, the one that's the only station on about a 5 mile stretch of road?
Still over $3 a gallon.
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Filled up for $2.12 this morning.
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$ 3.09 yesterday at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$3.10 in pondunkville, $2.95 at the Costco.
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$2.35 at Costco here. $2.39 to 2.46 everywhere else locally, according to minnesotagasprices.com
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2.08 today at QT.
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Gas has been bouncing up and down around here, too. Some stations up, some down, with little apparent rhyme or reason. Our go to stations are $2.19 at the moment. No telling what they will be next week (or even tomorrow).
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Bouncing around here in W. Michigan too. Last week gas was going for $2.12 to $2.31 depending on what part of town. This week nearly every station is at $2.49.
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Wow, 2 months since this was last looked at, mainly because gasoline prices have been incredibly stable despite a slow rise in the price of oil.
That's turned around the last few days...
Oil has been dropping steadily over fears of the Chinese economy under the threat of Kung Flu, and heating oil and gasoline futures have been plummeting.
Still, the Citgo near my house is stuck at $2.35, but given the week's movement I don't see that holding much longer.
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In the $2.50ish range here.
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$2.199 for e-10 as of yesterday
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$ 2.73/gallon yesterday at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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In the past couple of weeks, and due mainly to the fears of the Corona virus, the price of oil has dropped around $10 a barrel, and the wholesale price of gasoline has dropped by about 25 cents a gallon.
On Tuesday, FINALLY, the price of gasoline started creeping down... a whole 3 cents a gallon at the station near my house, to $2.32 a gallon. I'm still wondering WTF is going on that crude and refined gasoline can drop that much and there be virtually no movement at the pump.
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Still in that $2.50ish range here, with places like Costco around $2.40ish.
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In the $2.teens here.
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Costco $1.96
Louisville
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$1.99 in Tulsa this morning.
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$2.11-ish around these parts.
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1.98 here today
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$2.439 at my usual station yesterday (2/5/2020). I went to a meeting up-state this evening (2/6/2020) and saw a non-name station at $2.419.
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For now, ours is around $2.20.
But, GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! The Democrats are working hard to run this state into the ground and have proposed a $.12 gas tax hike.
Woohoo!
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as long as everyone remembers that we can't drill our way to lower prices, we'll be fine.
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Every time the price dips the dems start calling for another tax increase
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Yesterday I left Illinois with 1/4 tank of its 2.49 high tax gas and arrived in Iowa with an empty tank.
I filled up at Costco for 2.05
I'm going back next week and taking gas cans with me.
I hate Illinois
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$ 2.65/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle. It has been within a band of $ 2.69-2.65 for the past month, according to my Fuelly data.
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$1.95 at Buc-Ees recently. I get a 10 cent discount if I use a certain credit card to buy it.
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$1.99 at a little station 15 miles away should be .05-.10 less in Nevada if I had a need to drive down there
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So what's everone paying for gasoline?
I usually use a credit card, but sometimes I pay in gold bullion. :P
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I usually use a credit card, but sometimes I pay in gold bullion. :P
What? No fiat currency?
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What? No fiat currency?
Only when I buy Italian cars.
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$2.07 at my wife's goto station today.
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$2.15 at the cheapest station, which happens to be the closest one to my house.
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$2.18 here in the shadow of Mordor a stones throw from Cook County.
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Filled up for $1.98 yesterday just North of Tulsa.
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Finally saw a little movement at the Citgo near my house... went from $2.35 to $2.29. Wooo....
The bigger move was at the station near my office... went from $2.49 to $2.34.
Oil prices are slowly creeping back up, though, so this may be transitory.
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Gas prices increased 10-11 cents here overnight. We're paying $2.17 to $2.19 at the stations I passed today.
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Dropped to 2.13 yesterday.
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According to the web, the station where I usually get gas is still about $1.91 per gallon.
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And yesterday at the Citgo the price went right back to $2.35 a gallon, only to drop this morning to $2.29 for their "6 cents off weekend"
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In North STL County it's been $1.95 for at least a week.
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Despite the general softness in the oil market the past couple of weeks fueled by Corona, gasoline, at least in my neck of the woods, has remained stubbornly sitting right in the $2.25 to $2.45 range, with one outlier station (the Exon I've talked about) still sitting at $2.99 a gallon.
Hopefully that might change in the next few days because, despite OPEC efforts to reach a broad agreement to cut 1.5 million barrels of production a day until the end of the year to prop up prices, it's being reported that the effort has failed because the Russians wouldn't agree to it.
Right now WTI is down 7.5% and flirting with dropping below $42 a barrel, and I'm seeing some short term predictions that, if OPEC doesn't reach some kind of agreement and Corona keeps spread, it could drop into the mid 30s.
Of course, that could all change in a heartbeat if OPEC and its nonmember partners reach an agreement.
Some are suggesting that this is a strategic move on the part of the Russians to help thin out some of the competition, including US oil shale. Those Ruskies wouldn't play that kind of hardball, would they?
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Our gas has been bouncing up and down for several months from 2.40-2.60. The last few days it's dropped to around 2.19.
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Gas just started going up here, by about a dime. I heard this morning that barrel price is low enough as of today, that US producers are in "costs more to produce than we can get for it" territory.
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Last I saw was $1.96. I've seen facebook posts showing $1.94 locally.
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Saw $1.99 at one of our local stations today. It's also $1.99 up the road at the place we usually tank up.
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2.11 at closest town but 2.24 10 miles away think they are making some extra on this
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The OPEC+ talks collapsed with no agreement and crude finished down over 10%.
Gasoline futures finished down over 13 cents a gallon, and heating oil futures were down over 10 cents. Both are sitting at $1.38 wholesale right now, the cheapest they've been in a long time.
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$2.14 at Costco
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Crude oil has fallen off a cliff over night. Saudi Arabia and Russia have both indicated their intention of conducting a price war.
WTI crude is currently sitting at 31.84, down over 20% from Friday's close.
Brent crude is down about the same.
Gasoline futures are off 24 cents a gallon.
This could get really interesting over the next couple of weeks.
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We're at $1.97 now at a few local stations. I'm curious about how this will shake out over the next few weeks. Saudi doesn't have as much clout as it once had to conduct oil price wars.
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"Saudi doesn't have as much clout as it once had to conduct oil price wars."
Well they would if we had just listened to St. Obama when he told us that we couldn't drill our way to lower gasoline prices and that the US energy sector should get used to being a has been and never will be again.
We're such bastards to think that we can be deterministic.
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Went to 1.99 here today. I also have a AAA Master Card that gives me a 5% discount on gasoline.
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I saw $1.85 per gallon in Muskogee yesteday, and $1.86 just south of Denison, Texas (north of Dallas) today. It was about $2 between those two and further south.
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No movement here in Northern Virginia, but I didn't expect any so soon.
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Wholesale gasoline has dropped below $1 a gallon for the first time since 2016.
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I filled up for $1.80 yesterday afternoon North of Tulsa.
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Prices here in Northern Virginia still have no budged.
This is ludicrous. Wholesale prices have been tanking for weeks and our prices are staying put.
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Prices here in Northern Virginia still have no budged.
This is ludicrous. Wholesale prices have been tanking for weeks and our prices are staying put.
I was about to post the same. Wholesale is practically free, and we actually went up a dime a week or so ago.
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Well remember...
It's almost time to switch the more expensive winter gasoline for the more expensive summer gasoline.
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Finally starting to see price movement. Station near my office is down 4 cents to $2.24.
Meanwhile, gasoline futures have plummeted to 85 cents a gallon....
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I filled up four days ago at the Marysville Costco for $ 2.65/gallon. GasBuddy tells me that it is the same price now.
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Finally starting to see price movement. Station near my office is down 4 cents to $2.24.
Meanwhile, gasoline futures have plummeted to 85 cents a gallon....
Saw my first sub-$2 today at an Exxon. $1.99 this morning.
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$1.85 today!
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Usually the Murphy's I use and the Brookshire's (grocery store) are the same price. Brookshire's is down to $1.98 for E10/85, Murphy's decided to tear out the tanks just this week.
The Vallero around the corner is usually the better part of a dime more than Brookshire's, today they're at $1.99.
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Man, something screwy is going on. Where I live gas is still ~$2.60. Where my dad lives in CA? $2.70. CA is usually at least a dollar more there than here. I wonder what's going on? Did CA suspend their gas tax because of the virus or something?
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$1.679 on I-35 in Clear Lake, IA
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$1.99-2.09 here
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Gasoline still has not *expletive deleted*ing budged in Northern Virginia. WTF?
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This article talks about the falling gas prices in CA, but I haven't found an explanation for the now relatively high prices in Idaho.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Coronavirus-California-gas-prices-to-drop-as-15118715.php
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$1.73 at Sam's today. Gas stations elsewhere at $1.85
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Still around $1.97 to $1.99 here in Hickory, NC. Saw a Love's along I-70 today on the way to Statesville advertising $1.86. Love's does tend to bounce around out of sync with everyone else, however.
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The price at the Citgo near my house FINALLY dropped yesterday, from $2.29 to $2.19. That's the first solid drop I've seen in gas prices in Northern Virginia. All of the other stations are sitting where they've been for weeks, even though the price of oil, and the wholesale price of refined gasoline, have dropped by nearly 50%.
I know industry people will say "well, the cheaper oil/gas have to work their way through the system. The product that's in the system now is the higher priced product so we can't drop prices yet.
But... that sure as *expletive deleted*ck don't keep them from ratcheting up prices fast as anything when wholesale prices go up, even though the cheaper product is still in the system.
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$1.75 yesterday evening. That was with a 10 cent per gallon discount Buc Ee's gives using a local bank credit card.
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Filled up for $1.85 on my way in to work this morning. Saw it at $1.83 at a different station last night.
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$1.72 at Costco.
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Still over $2 in my area.
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I'll believe it when I see it C19 or not.
Gas prices could hit 99 cents in some states due to coronavirus, supplies expert says
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/gas-prices-could-hit-99-cents-in-some-states-due-to-coronavirus
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My old truck driver contacts remember when crude was $30/bbl, and diesel was $1.20. Of course they think it's a conspiracy that it's been hovering around $30/bbl for quite a while but diesel prices haven't dropped much.
I still remember when diesel was always cheaper than gas, so people bought diesel vehicles because the fuel was cheaper. Diesel has been more expensive than gas for how long? So the economics changed somehow for some reason.
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Hell, I remember when crude was $12 a barrel and gasoline was 59 cents a gallon in the 1970s.
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My old truck driver contacts remember when crude was $30/bbl, and diesel was $1.20. Of course they think it's a conspiracy that it's been hovering around $30/bbl for quite a while but diesel prices haven't dropped much.
I still remember when diesel was always cheaper than gas, so people bought diesel vehicles because the fuel was cheaper. Diesel has been more expensive than gas for how long? So the economics changed somehow for some reason.
Did .Gov step in and jack up taxes on diesel when people started buying diesel cars and pickups?
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Did .Gov step in and jack up taxes on diesel when people started buying diesel cars and pickups?
I thought it was due to the change to ultra-low sulfur.
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I thought it was "Because we can".
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Hell, I remember when crude was $12 a barrel and gasoline was 59 cents a gallon in the 1970s.
I started driving in 1978 and paying for my own gas. I recall that it was around 63 cents per gallon in the Seattle area.
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West Texas Intermediate is trading at $25 and change right now and it's looking like it could drop below that today.
Several companies/analysts have predicted that oil could, for a period of time, drop into the teens if the Saudis and Russians don't come to some sort of agreement and also if Corona hasa a big impact on the summer driving season.
Gas buddy says that they lowest price in Virginia right now is $1.49 a gallon.
Northern Virginia? Average is still in the $2.20s.
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ULSD is more expensive to produce from what I hear
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Just filled up at $1.88 at the Sheetz near my house.
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Is your house over there, or its it over there in the other direction?
Terry would like to know. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Is your house over there, or its it over there in the other direction?
Terry would like to know. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
it's over yonder. *pointing that way*
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Is your house over there, or its it over there in the other direction?
Terry would like to know. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Well, you can't get there from here.
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Well, you can't get there from here.
Can you get here from there? And how much will that cost per gallon?
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Saudi Arabia just went shock and awe in their price war with Russia.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-17/oil-extends-slump-as-virus-spread-threatens-global-recession
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I filled up here in the Northeast corner of I.T. for $1.73 yesterday.
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$1.63 Sam's Club Louisville
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Dropped a whole three cents here today. This is ridiculous.
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Saw it in Tyler TX just off I20 for $1.71. Did I stop? No - instead I drove another 40 miles or so and paid $1.92.
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I saw $1.79 in Fargo, ND today.
It’s hovering around the $2 mark in rural Minnesota.
JB
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Saw it at $1.63 today. $1.49 if you are a BP member, whatever that entails.
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Citgo near my house?
Went UP 6 *expletive deleted*ing cents a gallon. WTF?
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Saw a second station over in Statesville along I-40 advertising $1.86. Still around $1.94 to $1.99 in my neck of the woods. Very little movement in price, a penny or two down each week or so.
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Just filled up at Costco $1.53
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Saw $1.68 this afternoon somewhere NE of Tulsa.
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And the station near my house that went from $2.29 to $2.19 and then the next day back to $2.25?
It's now dropped to $2.21.
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Interwebs say $1.80 in Nevada,MO
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I agree there are more useful sources for actual information on the net. So don't look at me, I didn't start this thread.
The OP:
Over the past couple of weeks the price of crude oil has been slipping quite a bit, as have gasoline futures.
Oil's down nearly $20 a barrel, and gasoline futures are down nearly 35 cents. (Home heating oil is also dropping, but not nearly as much).
Slowly we're seeing prices move lower at the pump.
At the station nearest me, a Citgo, the price for regular is $3.15 a gallon, which is about as low as I've seen it in my area.
The takeaway? Pump prices have fluctuated, but seem to have dropped about a buck/gal in 5-1/2 years.
=D
Terry, 230RN
REF:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/buck
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" I agree there are more useful sources for actual information on the net."
I agree, as well. Gas buddy is particularly useful.
My intent on starting this thread was to just see what our members were seeing where they live.
Information resource quite low.
Interest resource quite high.
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And finally I'm seeing drops at more stations in my area in Northern Virginia. A few stations have dropped by a dime in the last few days.
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My intent on starting this thread was to just see what our members were seeing where they live.
No, I think your intent was to get me pissed off regarding all the APS members paying under $2/gal. :laugh:
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Filled up for $1.45 last night. Haven't seen the price yet today. This is in small-town, SE Wisconsin.
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$1.77 at BJs (Sam's/Costco competitor) last night.
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No, I think your intent was to get me pissed off regarding all the APS members paying under $2/gal. :laugh:
OK, so there was that element of amusement factor built in...
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Tomorrow on my way south I'll be passing through Fredericksburg, Virginia.
Looks like most of the stations proximate to I-95 at the exit where I get onto state routes are in the $1.70s.
According to the range meter on the new Subaru I have 210 mile range on the just over half tank I have right now, so I'll probably get gas on the way.
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If Cheaper Than Dirt was a gas station
Gas: $29.99
Gas Cans: $199.99
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If Cheaper Than Dirt was a gas station
Gas: $29.99
Gas Cans: $199.99
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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West Texas Intermediate Crude just dropped below $20 a barrel.
Wholesale RBOB gasoline is about to drop below 60 cents a gallon.
Jesus.
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West Texas Intermediate Crude just dropped below $20 a barrel.
Wholesale RBOB gasoline is about to drop below 60 cents a gallon.
Jesus.
Can't be oil, we ran out of that stuff in the early 80s right after the start of the new ice age.
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Saw $1.59 today.
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WTI recovered a bit, closed at somewhat over $22 a barrel.
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Quote from: Mike Irwin on Today at 12:41:20 PM
West Texas Intermediate Crude just dropped below $20 a barrel.
Wholesale RBOB gasoline is about to drop below 60 cents a gallon.
Jesus.
Can't be oil, we ran out of that stuff in the early 80s right after the start of the new ice age.
:rofl:3
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We're still around $1.92 in this area, with the exception of a Citgo I saw on the way home from work at $1.71, and Sam's Club at $1.63.
Don't know why there is a wide difference between them.
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Hasn't dropped at all here. Dammit.
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$1.45 at Costco today in Louisville
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The Citgo near my house has finally dropped a bit more. It's now sitting at $2.15.
I've seen a couple of places in Northern Virginia that are as low as $2.09.
The Exxon near where I shop? I've mentioned before that it's an isolated station, the only one for several miles in either direction so they think they have a monopoly?
Still sitting at $2.99 a gallon.
Meanwhile, in Castle Key's neck of the woods, it's generally around $1.79 a gallon.
I paid $1.89 in Fredericksburg, VA, right off I-95 on my way down, but it was 10 or more cents a gallon cheaper at several other stations on that stretch.
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$1.79 this AM in WI
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Saw $1.559 last night for E-10 at Mills Fleet Farm in Mason City, IA.
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$1.63 this morning NE of Tulsa.
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Filled up at $1.70 in rural SW Virginia. Even cheaper than the discount stores here.
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$ 2.40 this morning at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Next to I20 in Lindale, TX it was $1.60, filled up 45 miles later (west of there) for $1.86.
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1.76 In Shreveport, LA today
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1.69.9 yesterday in West Point Virginia. Lowest I've seen it in this century.
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Price at the Citgo near my house finally hit $1.99. The Sunoco around the corner is $1.97.
The Liberty across the way from it (which I never use because it's very inconvenient to get into) is also at $1.99.
According to GasBuddy, the cheapest gas in Virginia right now is $1.19 a gallon in Buckingham.
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Wow. Back when I started this thread in 2014, the Citgo near my house was sitting at $3.15 a gallon...
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Man, as of yesterday my local station is at $2.55 - only a 5 cent drop since this crash started. I just don't get it.
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Gas has finally made a bigger drop locally. We're at a $1.85 now at some of our go to stations.
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$1.49 around here in the Milwaukee Metro locally. And even cheaper at Costco in the further out burbs where it was $1.28.
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Man, as of yesterday my local station is at $2.55 - only a 5 cent drop since this crash started. I just don't get it.
How far does fuel need to be trucked in and how many times is station replenished each week? Shorter trucking distances and fuel turnover will allow for faster drop in prices. Also depends upon the prices at the terminal.
Our cheapest stations probably have fuel delivered every 2-3 days and our fuel terminal is 7 miles from my house, ethanol plant is 2 miles form my house. About as cheap as you're going to get for trucking.
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Local Brookshire's grocery store dropped about $.20 over the last couple of days. Last Sun it was ~$1.85, today it was $1.68.
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I just topped off my tank for $1.67.
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Back home in MN, gassbuddy says gas is $1.59 at Costco, $1.65 at Fleet Farm and the KwikTrip close to Fleet Farm, and all over the place but less than $1.90 everywhere else. Most stations at $1.85
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1.469 in Mason City
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$1.49 here.
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1.439 this afternoon
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Damn! It's still $1.68 here!
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Gas buddy says the cheapest gas in Virginia is 99 cents a gallon. I never thought I'd see that again in my lifetime.
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Pack it up Mabel! We're moving to Virginia!
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Haven't even looked at gas. Filled up last week, along with 4 of my 5 gallon cans. Have barely driven anywhere...
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Pack it up Mabel! We're moving to Virginia!
There's supposedly 99 cent gas in quite a few states. The cheapest I've found on Gassbuddy is a station in Kentucky (89 cents)
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I ran to the store the other evening and passed the Exxon I've talked about, the one that's on its own stretch of road with no stations within a couple miles of it. It's always had a pretty high price because of its isolation...
The price of regular unleaded at that station hasn't moved. It's still sitting at $2.99 a freaking gallon.
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FINALLY seeing some downward movement here. My local station has gone from $2.55 to $2.45, and Costco is at $2.30.
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1.399, broke the 1.40 threshold
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$1.76 at a station up in Hudson where my FIL lives, and near where we go to church.
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It's $1.25 at my station in SE WI. I'm told it was .99 at a station in a nearby town. I haven't verified it, but I believe it.
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Holy crap...
This is literally unprecedented...
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/dan-yergin-aprils-oil-demand-may-plunge-by-20-million-barrels-a-day.html
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Not sure what's up with Gasbuddy...
The Citgo near my house is sitting at $1.89 for regular unleaded. Has been since Saturday morning. I've reported that price several days in a row.
Yet multiple people, according to GB, have reported the price as being $2.15 as recently as this morning.
If that GB price isn't accurate, are any of them?
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Cumberland, Virginia.
Unleaded regular at 87 cents a gallon.
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Paid $1.73 yesterday in western MO.
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It's $1.25 at my station in SE WI. I'm told it was .99 at a station in a nearby town. I haven't verified it, but I believe it.
Wow! I'm going to pick up lunch today and I'm curious what the prices are in town now.
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Is the world running out of oil?
I know we've heard that many times over our lives, and it's never quite worked out that way for the Howler Monkeys of Doom.
But this is a more immediate threat in some ways.
The world is running out of places to store oil...
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-oil-prices-could-turn-negative-as-storage-nears-capacity.html
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As of this morning, still $ 2.29 at the Marysville Costco 40 miles north of Seattle.
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It's actually popped up a few cents a gallon at the stations near my house the last couple of days.
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$1.329 3-31-2020, Mason City, IA for E-10
Cheap gas and no where to go.
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When SWMBO and I were defying the state lockdown order yesterday, we saw gas as low as $1.61 at a few stations in the county just north of us. We're still around $1.81-$1.83 in our county.
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It just dropped another $0.04 around here - down to $1.64 at the grocery store.
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/28/california-oil-prices-coronavirus/
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Paid $1.62 yesterday. Used some fuel points, brought it down to $1.12.
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Seeing it for $1.48 NE Oklahoma
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Paid $1.79 yesterday to fill my truck at one of our local go-to stations.
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1.209 yesterday in Mason City, IA
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Finally coming down here. $2.19 in town, $2.09 at Costco.
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Niece posted a picture of a station near Henderson, KY - $0.95/gal.
Still holding at $1.58 here.
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We're holding at 1.19 around here . . . .
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1.169 in Clear Lake, IA. Feels like the 1980s and 1990s again.
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I paid 1.069 this AM, only needed 6.5 gallons, but I haven't gotten gas that cheap since 2001.
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Still $ 2.29/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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That Exxon I've talked about many times, the one near my grocery store?
STILL at $2.99 a gallon for regular unleaded.
:rofl: :rofl:
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Lord it's a miracle, we're finally below $2 here.
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Lake City, MN 4-8-2020
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Lake City, MN 4-8-2020
Wow. It's about a buck more here, but still lower than it has been in years.
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Nothing my wife won't let me go anywhere. We are up to four cases in our county and none of them close to us but I guess that gives me more time to be online.
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Oh, it's getting real interesting in OPEC+ land...
Supposed earlier today the Saudis and Russians and everyone else agreed to cuts of up to 20 MILLION barrels a day. Then 10 MILLION barrels a day. Still huge...
Crude was skyrocketing...
Then, things seemed to hit a snag, and the price start falling...
Mexico refused to agree to its share of the cuts.
By close of trading, the price was off 7.5%, back to $23.19 a barrel for WTI.
And they're heading back tomorrow for another day of talks, but reports are that there's still a lot of trouble in paradise...
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Nothing my wife won't let me go anywhere. We are up to four cases in our county and none of them close to us but I guess that gives me more time to be online.
You just keep hanging tough, buddy. I'm thinking of you and praying for you.
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WTI oil prices have collapsed this morning. Now just above $11 a barrel, and likely to drop even more as there is now no available bulk storage for oil.
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WTI oil prices have collapsed this morning. Now just above $11 a barrel, and likely to drop even more as there is now no available bulk storage for oil.
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Are the dems still blocking topping off the Strategic Oil Reserves? Because there's lots of room there at a taxpayer steal of $11/barrel.
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Saw a $1.59 at a Citgo station up in Granite Falls Sunday morning. Otherwise, it's between $1.63 to $1.69 most places.
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WTI oil prices have collapsed this morning. Now just above $11 a barrel, and likely to drop even more as there is now no available bulk storage for oil.
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At those prices our fracking industry is likely near collapse, if it's not already dead. And I doubt we're a self-sufficient oil exporting nation anymore. But that's all fodder for a different thread.
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We're down to .99 per gallon for "unleaded 88," .89 for flexfuel. Here's the breakdown from a local station:
Unleaded E 87 - 1.049
Unleaded 88 - 0.999
Premium 93 - 1.849
Premium 91 - 1.699
E85 - 0.899
Diesel - 2.049
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Been stuck on $1.099 for a few weeks here. Not sure if it will drop much further since about 1/2 of that is fuel taxes. 32.5 IA tax, 18.4 fed tax.
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We're down to .99 per gallon for "unleaded 88," .89 for flexfuel. Here's the breakdown from a local station:
Unleaded E 87 - 1.049
Unleaded 88 - 0.999
Premium 93 - 1.849
Premium 91 - 1.699
E85 - 0.899
Diesel - 2.049
Dang. Almost half of what I'm paying. $1.90 in town.
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$.95/gallon at Costco this past Friday.
Canadian oil went negative (pay you to take it?) for a little bit over the weekend.
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Oil is now sitting at a bit over $8 a barrel...
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Oil is now sitting at a bit over $8 a barrel...
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I wish I could pre pay for 2000 gallons of fuel at my favorite gas station chain.
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Wait, I thought $150 per barrel was the new norm???
Ongoing concerns over swelling oil inventories pushed West Texas Intermediate crude for May delivery down by as much as 77 percent to $4.05 per barrel.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/us-stocks-april-20-2020
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WTH?
Now $2.30
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WTI just hit 21 CENTS a barrel.
Complete and total market collapse.
Brent is still around $26 a barrel...
This is an expiring contract. It could jump back up with the new contract cycle.
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-$36/barrel. Yes, MINUS.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/oil-price-crashes-record-low
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That's for May delivery. Actual physical delivery of the oil. The storage tanks are nearly full and no one wants to take delivery, so the price tanks.
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Still. Negative is still....weird.
That said the range in my aoe is largely 1.49-1.53. Gonna be hitting the road in a few, will make note of what it's like a bit north of me.
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So much for $150 a/barrel being the norm :rofl:
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I wonder how many pumps will be idle in the coming weeks, or have a very short daily quota.
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So if I go fill my tank up they owe me money right? =D
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So if I go fill my tank up they owe me money right? =D
Good luck on that...the .gov still wants its pound of fleshlight.
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$ 2.09/gallon this afternoon at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Last Friday I had to go back home.
Gas prices in Mathews and through on to Saluda, Virginia, were in the $1.59-$1.65 range.
I tanked up in Tapahannock, Virginia, for $1.47.
In Fredericksburg, VA, right next to I-95, the price was hovering around $1.59.
In Fairfax at the Citgo near my house it was about $1.85.
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Last weekend low-test was $1.48 at 3 stations I drive by daily. Today they were all at $1.49.
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1.50/gal, Shreveport, LA, yesterday.
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$1.29 here in Cincinnati
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SOMEBODY FILL THE STRATEGIC OIL RESERVES! God Dammit! :mad:
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SOMEBODY FILL THE STRATEGIC OIL RESERVES! God Dammit! :mad:
Someone is playing the game better.
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SOMEBODY FILL THE STRATEGIC OIL RESERVES! God Dammit! :mad:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/with-oil-below-zero-trump-to-top-off-strategic-petroleum-reserve
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WTI just hit 21 CENTS a barrel.
Complete and total market collapse.
Brent is still around $26 a barrel...
This is an expiring contract. It could jump back up with the new contract cycle.
Rush Limbaugh was discussing this on his April 20th show. In the immediate future, oil has plummeted .... but if you go farther out into the future they recover. It's believed that demand will rise again with recovery, which isn't unreasonable.
But things sure hurt now. J. R. Ewing must be more nervous than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs... [popcorn]
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/with-oil-below-zero-trump-to-top-off-strategic-petroleum-reserve
Great news if it happens. When I recently complained about it (again), I learned Trump doesn't have carte blanche to just do it. So hopefully congress cooperates on this. I mean, it's a win for the fiscal hawks, and even a win to the AOCs that want to stick it to the oil companies.
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Great news if it happens. When I recently complained about it (again), I learned Trump doesn't have carte blanche to just do it. So hopefully congress cooperates on this. I mean, it's a win for the fiscal hawks, and even a win to the AOCs that want to stick it to the oil companies.
Does he really need permission from congress if the oil is free? (or the receiver is paid to take it)
Appropriations bills need to start in the House, but if the amount is $0 I'd think he could do that out of petty cash. Certainly he has a small descretionary budget. Or he could solicit a donation from someone stuck with May oil contracts and no place to put it.
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Does he really need permission from congress if the oil is free? (or the receiver is paid to take it)
Appropriations bills need to start in the House, but if the amount is $0 I'd think he could do that out of petty cash. Certainly he has a small descretionary budget. Or he could solicit a donation from someone stuck with May oil contracts and no place to put it.
I'm guessing the amount won't be $0. My understanding is negative prices factor in having to build additional storage plus transport costs. The SOR would handle the storage part, but I'm betting the gov will pay transport costs. Which seems reasonable to me.
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Since this is the Federal government, the cost of $0/bbl oil will probably be $100/bbl or more.
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Is there actual storage facilities for the strategic reserves, or do they just buy oil to be left in the ground? I heard about salt domes in LA being used for storage, but it could just be hearsay.
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Crude is cheaper than TP, and more abundant!
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Is there actual storage facilities for the strategic reserves, or do they just buy oil to be left in the ground? I heard about salt domes in LA being used for storage, but it could just be hearsay.
See the wiki. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve_%28United_States%29) The oil is stored in underground salt caverns mostly in Louisiana and Texas.
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97 cents a gallon today
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97 cents a gallon today
I got .50 off a gallon at Kwik Star/Trip, that will make for a cheap fill up, now if I can use up my tank before the .50 expire.
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I got .50 off a gallon at Kwik Star/Trip, that will make for a cheap fill up, now if I can use up my tank before the .50 expire.
.50 off? Where'd you get that, from buying all those packs of bacon last month? (I'm serious) I have not seen any good discounts, but I was out of the state for over a month so may have missed the flyer.
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Filled up for $1.25 today just North of Tulsa.
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.50 off? Where'd you get that, from buying all those packs of bacon last month? (I'm serious) I have not seen any good discounts, but I was out of the state for over a month so may have missed the flyer.
Saturday was a one day buy 2 Cheese Mountain Pizzas get .50 off fuel
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Saturday was a one day buy 2 Cheese Mountain Pizzas get .50 off fuel
Thanks. I didn't miss much then. Their pizza is okay but not that great and a bit overpriced, and my tank only holds 12 gallons. Not worth it to save at most $6. :) A good deal if you really like their pizza. Or have a 30 gallon tank.
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I filled up in Reno for the first time in yrs, usually its fifty cents cheaper 25 to 30 miles out of town.
1.87
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Thanks. I didn't miss much then. Their pizza is okay but not that great and a bit overpriced, and my tank only holds 12 gallons. Not worth it to save at most $6. :) A good deal if you really like their pizza. Or have a 30 gallon tank.
My truck holds 18, I'll fill up all my gas cans at the same time. Have my lawn care fuel covered for the season.
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Best I've seen has been $1.24.
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I paid $0.419 today, but that was with some Kroger discounts. $1.319 without.
Filled up the truck and two 5 gallon gas cans for under $15.
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The station that'd gone up $0.01 last Thurs or so dropped from $1.48 to $1.38 yesterday. Right now I don't anticipate it going much lower around here (N. TX) - but who knows?
Posted by: cordex
Filled up the truck and two 5 gallon gas cans for under $15.
For that price I'd have bought a couple more cans.
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We're seeing $1.49 to $1.59 around here, with the exception of one station up in Caldwell County near my FIL. SWMBO saw them at $1.40 yesterday after she had already bought gas elsewhere.
That station has been a bit of a maverick with their pricing recently.
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Ticking back up, my 1.089 price has gone up to 1.349
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$1.70 here. Still 50 cents too high if you ask me.
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We're back up to $1.19 here. Like the wife said last night "It drops by pennies but increases by dimes."
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Still $ 2.09 at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle. Although Costco has a new sticker on the pumps, and I can now see that with State and Federal gas taxes, $ 0.694 cents per gallon goes to taxes. Approximately a third of the cost of a gallon here goes to taxes. I had read elsewhere that Washington state has something like the first or second highest state gas taxes in the country.
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Washington is number 3, behind Pennsylvania and California.
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Paying a 1.98 at Costco last week.
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TFerguson - Welcome to APS!
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TFerguson - Welcome to APS!
Thanks, looking forward to the discussions.
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Jumped to 1.599 over night in old River City, IA.
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I paid $1.439 per gallon in Tapahannock, Virginia, this morning.
It was still $1.799 a gallon 75 miles north in Fairfax.
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Small town just off Hwy 80 in N TX was $1.48 this afternoon, 15 mi away on the other side of I20 it was $1.45 - for the cheap stuff at both.
Looks as if it's going to settle around there for now, prices have been up and down only by a penny or two over the last couple of weeks or so.
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Filled up today for 1.34
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Still over $1.85 in my area, closer to $2 at most stations. Not very far west of here it's supposed to be much cheaper, though. Living in Northern VA comes with a lot of unnecessary premium costs.
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Well, the two stations I mentioned last night proved me wrong.
Today they're at $1.38 & $1.39.
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I was in Tyler TX yesterday. The prices there were quite varied, from $1.21 to $1.58. And those two stations were less than 5 miles from each other.
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And prices are on the rise.
Citgo down the street from me jumped 10 cents a gallon, to $1.89, yesterday.
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We're already all the way back up to $1.65 . . . .
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It has been $ 2.09 here for over a month.
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Still a buck seventy here.
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In the $1.54 to $1.59 range around here, with a few outliers that are higher.
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That Exxon station I've talked about numerous times in the past?
The one with ridiculously high prices because it's the only station on a several mile stretch of road?
Their price NEVER moved a penny.
It's still sitting at $2.99 a gallon for regular unleaded.
Not that far away the price is over $1 a gallon less.
I'm betting they sell VERY little gasoline.
I can't imagine why stations would pull that crap when finding a gas station with a reasonable price is just a Siri/Google shoutout away.
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$1.558 per gallon in Decatur Alabama. Wow. My wallet is happy. I suspect Shell Oil's wallet is not.
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$1.89 at Costco, while it jumped to $2.29 at my local stations. What the hell, man?
It's usually about 15 cents more at my station than Costco - 40 cents is wack. All I can figure is because both the stations in town are on a minor artery that people take through Idaho and to a couple of neighboring states, maybe the stations want to cash in on Holiday traffic.
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We've seen price increases of about 21 cents/gallon in this area. We're now up to $1.73-$1.75 around here.
Kind of expected since oil has gone back up over $30 a barrel.
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$1.65/gal at Shell in Bossier City, LA
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Price at my local Citgo is now at $1.95 a gallon. I think as things slowly start to reopen and people start to travel again the price is going to jump pretty quickly.
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Midway between Dallas & Tyler it's gone up ~$0.20/gal in the last week & a half. That puts it back about where it was before the price drop.
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Last couple of times I've been past that turbo expensive Exxon?
The price sign has been out/off for at least 2 weeks now.
Pretty bad when your price is so high that you have to dupe people in to try to sell them gas...
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Last couple of times I've been past that turbo expensive Exxon?
The price sign has been out/off for at least 2 weeks now.
Pretty bad when your price is so high that you have to dupe people in to try to sell them gas...
Perhaps that station is really a front for a money laundering operation, drug lab, human trafficking, etc. They don't want customers; just a very few (and stupid ones at that) to maintain the image.
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Beats me, but the sign was on again this morning when I passed by.
Still sitting at $2.99 a gallon.
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Jumped back up to 1.65. Comes down slow goes,up quick.
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Filled up yesterday for 1.42
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We're back up to $2.00.
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$1.54 Tulsa area. The lowest I saw locally was $1.38 and it sort of hung there through the bottom falling out and once the bottom was over it jumped up to $1.54 and has stayed there for several weeks. Typical for around here is at least weekly fluctuations but rock solid for longer than normal.
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Oddly enough, last weekend the price at my local Citgo went from $1.95 to $1.89. Well, that's not odd because they do 6 cent off weekends.
But that IS odd is that the price never went back up. It's sitting at $1.89 (or $1.83 if the 6 cent weekend is in force).
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We dropped from $1.73 to $1.69 at some of the stations in the area.
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Just 'cause it's been forever since I last saw this:
They just refurb'ed the local Murphy's station. Fewer pumps to make room for a small store rather than the original shack.
They added non-methonal nozzles to all the pumps, at about $0.50/gal more than the 10% stuff. The 10% is at $1.89.
The odd thing is the price for diesel is at $1.70. I don't remember the last time I saw diesel for less than gasoline.
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$2.40 here right now. I had to stock back up on offroad diesel today. That stuff was only $1.60.
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Wow good price on the red. I need to get some fuel tomorrow or next day will see what it is here.
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I haven't bought any in almost a month. My Jeep has been parked since 6/14, the day before my shoulder surgery.
I did see $1.76 the last time my wife relented and took me to town a few days ago.
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It's been ever so slowly creeping up here in Northern Virginia.
$2.09 for regular unleaded at the Citgo near me, $2.07 at the Sunoco around the corner, and $2.18 at the Shell across from the Sunoco.
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We got up to around $2.09 in this area a couple weeks ago. We've since crept back down to $1.89 - $1.90.
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Murphy's was down to $1.71 for 85 octane, $1.70 for non-farm diesel.
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Dropped 4 cents a gallon for regular at the Citgo around the corner from my house. I didn't expect that.
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1.779 at Murphy's/Mao-Mart when I went to go look at the comet last night.
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$2.19 today at the Nampa Costco.
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$1.83 at the local Murphy's/Mao-Mart Sunday morning on the way to breakfast before church.
(Liked what you called Wally World so much I stole it, Charby.)
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$1.89 today, $2.39 for no ethanol premium.
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Still around $1.68 for 10% 87 octane at the local Murphy's; it'll vary a couple pennies up and down every few days, but stays in that general area.
They semi-recently finished a re-mod of the entire station and starting offering non-ethanol gas. Haven't checked the pricing on it yet.
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It's crept up to $2.25 at the Citgo near my house here in Virginia.
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I saw $1.73 on my drive to work this morning. About 10 miles further down the road at a station from the same chain it was $1.83.
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$1.99 at the Costco. I can't remember the last time it was under two bucks here.
Oh wait, yes I can. Looking back a page, it was $1.89 in May.
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$1.83 yesterday at the small misery town east of me.
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In my little town it is 2.009 for regular, over the hump in the big city today it was 2.489. Our gas comes through there, it must lose value when out of the city. ;)
bob
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Weird thing here in NoVa...
The Citgo near my house fell last week to $2.05. Today, with their 6 cent off weekends, it's $1.99.
None of the other stations fell. They're all sitting between $2.17 and $2.21.
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I filled up last week for $1.85. First time I'd had to put gas in the Jeep since the middle of October.
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And, for whatever reason, Sunday the price of gasoline at the Citgo near my house was back up to... $2.19.
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The local Murphys has been at $1.98 (+/- ~ $0.04) for the last 3 or 4 months. Yesterday, it was still at $1.98. This morning it's $2.17 for the cheap stuff.
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$1.88 for E-15, my supercharged truck loves that stuff.
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Price is skyrocketing around here. I drove to the VA hospital on Saturday for the coronavirus inoculation. One station, where I used to buy gas, was at $2.23 for regular. I went again on Thursday to have blood drawn -- price at the same station was up to $2.43 for regular.
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$2.08 looks like the norm in NE Oklahoma.
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$2.06 at the Costco, but it's up to $2.31 in my town.
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Price of oil has been pretty steadily rising over the last month. Saudis instituted more production cuts, which is also helping prop up the price.
It's back to $2.35 at the Citgo near my house.
I can only imagine what it's going to get up to when Biden starts punishing the oil producers for proving that yes, you CAN drill your way to lower prices.
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I paid 1.86 per gallon yesterday. I think it was 1.65 or so last time. I think those are with a 10% discount as well.
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And up to $2.40 today in town. At this rate it will easily be over $3 by June.
*expletive deleted*ing 46.
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Dropped down to $1.99 from $2.08 earlier in the week. I still expect $4.00+ by Fall.
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$2.40ish around me.
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$2.60.
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Regular was 2.33/2.23 credit/cash here the other day, diesel is pumping out at 2.50.
bob
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It went back up over $2.00 when Biden got elected. It's holding $2.14-2.20 for the last week.
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It's still holding at $2.03 here.
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In southwestern Illinois, most prices are around $2.499/gal for regular and have been there for about 2 weeks.
Looking at stlouisgasprices.com, St. Louis City has prices running $2.079 - $2.199 depending on location. Oddly enough, about 2 weeks ago, prices in St. Louis County were lower (by $.05-.15) than in the city but are now ranging from $2.069 - $2.259/gal.
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Prices have been hard on the move for the last couple of weeks all across the US. I saw yesterday that the national average is now $2.70 a gallon for unleaded. It's hit $2.75 at the Citgo near my house.
Seeing a lot of people clammoring about how this is Biden's doing... well, it's not. At least most of it's not. But what could come later? Yeah, he'll have a big hand in continuing higher prices if he continues to clamp down on drilling and exploration. As I've continually said, the Democrats are in full punish the American people with outlandish energy prices because they had the audacity to prove the great and glorious Jesusbama wrong... we COULD drill our way to lower gas prices.
And now you've got the chief Saudi oil minister taunting the US that our shale oil industry can no longer wield the hammer that it did over the last decade. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04/saudis-bet-drill-baby-drill-is-over-in-push-for-pricier-oil
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Filled up for $2.599. While biden can't take all the blame for the recent price increases he's certainly doing all he can to make them even higher.
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Because I do mainly diesel that is what I look at.
In my little burg diesel was 2.85 if you paid cash or debit. In Las Vegas I saw it for as much as 3.09 yesterday but most were 3.03.
You can add 10 cents per gallon for credit.
Regular Unleaded in town was 2.69 cash price.
bob
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Holy crap, it feels like CA here. $2.94 at the local station when I filled up this morning. I can't remember the last time I broke $50 for a fill up. The Costco is $2.75. Most of the area seems to be $2.90ish.
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Murphy's gas here is still on the low side at $2.43 for 10%, $2.93 for non-ethanol.
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The Citgo near my house has always been on the low side for my immediate area... it's still sitting at $2.75.
The Sunoco around the corner is at $2.77.
The Shell across the street from the Sunoco is at $2.84... BUT! They participate in a rewards points program with the local grocery chain. Right now I can get 40 cents off a gallon. After my shopping trip Saturday that should be 60 cents off a gallon.
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$2.54 here in central Ky.
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Seems to be running about $2.65 in the KC metro.
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I had to tank up this morning, so I only saved 40 cents a gallon. Brought the price down to $2.449 a gallon.
Still hurt to see that meter click past $30...
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$2.60 south of KC. It was about $55 to fill the truck yesterday.
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About a week ago, prices in this area of IL-ANNOY just east of St. Louis rose almost $0.40/gal to $2.999. :O
Two days afterwards, there was a news story that we might see prices at $3/gal by April. ;/
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$2.699 locally.
:mad:
On the bright side I'm not spending $80 a week to go to work.
=D
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About a week ago, prices in this area of IL-ANNOY just east of St. Louis rose almost $0.40/gal to $2.999. :O
Two days afterwards, there was a news story that we might see prices at $3/gal by April. ;/
That was because the more expensive winter blend was replaced with the more expensive summer blend...
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We just broke $3 here. I wouldn't be surprised if we're back on our way to 2014 prices.
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$ 2.91/gallon yesterday at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle. According to my Fuelly app, it has gone up ten cents since the last time I filled up the Tacoma two weeks ago.
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We just broke $3 here. I wouldn't be surprised if we're back on our way to 2014 prices.
As I keep saying, our sin as a nation was proving Our Glorious Leader Jesus Bama wrong when we did drill our way to lower prices...
And Biden and the Democrats are bound and determined to punish us for our blasphemy.
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The Green Energy Movement that the Democrats represent is like what the progressive liberals always do; they destroy what they don't like before having any alternative that works, or makes sense, or is consumer friendly or actually has harmful consequences.
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Didn't you know that paying triple for your green produced electric, along with the inevitable power outages that will result due to lack of backup reserve generation, are fundamental human rights?
I mean, what are you? Some kind of... conservative?
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The Green Energy Movement that the Democrats represent is like what the progressive liberals always do; they destroy what they don't like before having any alternative that works, or makes sense, or is consumer friendly or actually has harmful consequences.
Destroy or simply make the most efficient fuel too expensive. At $6/gal gasoline, it's easier to push the more expensive, even when gov subsidized, alternatives. The new admin wants to push electric out well ahead of what is operationally sensible. To do that, you have to kill the more convenient energy sources and take away choices.
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Wonder what size diesel generator I will need to tow around to charge my new green ride?
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The cheap stuff went up $0.10 overnight. It's now up to $2.58.
Not that long ago it was <$1.98.
Bastards.
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More than 2 days ago, less than 2 days from now!
bob
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$2.74 yesterday ~$1 more than it was when the Covid Slayer first walked back into the WH
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Up to $2.799 here -- it seems to have gone up about 10 cents per week since Biden took office. Since COVID-19 and self-isolation, I don't drive much any more. I filled up my Cherokee yesterday for the first time in several weeks. Sticker shock! The fill-up cost me $46. I haven't spent more than $30 for a fill-up since Trump took office.
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Up to $2.799 here -- it seems to have gone up about 10 cents per week since Biden took office. Since COVID-19 and self-isolation, I don't drive much any more. I filled up my Cherokee yesterday for the first time in several weeks. Sticker shock! The fill-up cost me $46. I haven't spent more than $30 for a fill-up since Trump took office.
Sounds familiar. We are at about 2.75 here. I filled up my Jeep Patriot yesterday near the VA hospital I go to at $2.99 and it cost me $34.05 because my tank is smaller than a Cherokee. At this rate it will cost more to get to and from Az (1600 miles one way) than what it will cost to be there.
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So how to blame Trump? You know they will figure out a way.
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Filled up for $2.679 this morning.
Thanks Joe!
:mad:
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The price jump isn't Joe... yet.
Oil prices have been slowly rising since they bottomed out last April. The overall economy never quite crapped out the way it was expected it would in the face of the Kung Flu, and now that vaccines have been released, there's more anticipation that life is going to be getting back to a more normal footing sooner rather than later, and that's driving expectations that oil usage is going to really start to spike as people start to commute back and forth to work and travel again.
It remains to be seen just how badly Joe is going to crush oil production in the US. And that's where it could get REALLY real price wise.
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About a week ago, prices in this area of IL-ANNOY just east of St. Louis rose almost $0.40/gal to $2.999. :O
Two days afterwards, there was a news story that we might see prices at $3/gal by April. ;/
Two days after posting this, most of the stations in this area jumped to $3.099 but have since dropped back to $3.059 - 3.079.
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A week ago it was $2.83. I filled up yesterday at $2.55.
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The price jump isn't Joe... yet.
Oil prices have been slowly rising since they bottomed out last April. The overall economy never quite crapped out the way it was expected it would in the face of the Kung Flu, and now that vaccines have been released, there's more anticipation that life is going to be getting back to a more normal footing sooner rather than later, and that's driving expectations that oil usage is going to really start to spike as people start to commute back and forth to work and travel again.
It remains to be seen just how badly Joe is going to crush oil production in the US. And that's where it could get REALLY real price wise.
I know, I'm just being proactive.
=D
I do have to wonder how much of an effect the Keystone shut down has had on oil futures though.
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Crude got absolutely crushed yesterday, down over 7% at one point.
Still sitting at $60 a barrel for WTI.
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$2.799 yesterday, here in SW OH/NKY.
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Local cheap station here is $3.039 cash for regular. 10 cents a gallon extra to use a card (debit or credit doesn’t matter).
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Do any of you have stations called "Circle K" near you? They have a "preferred customer" price that, in this area, is 6 cents lower than their normal price. They charge the same "normal" price for cash, credit, or debit transactions. The "preferred customer" price is because they are electronically tied in to your checking account and deduct it directly from there themselves.
BTW - a couple of stations I saw this morning were back to $2.999 while two others (one a Circle K) were at $2.989 and $3.089 and those two were less than 1 mile from each other.
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Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.
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Yeah we have circle Ks I don’t shop at them very often though so never noticed the preferred customer deal. A local gas station chain does a similar thing. I try to buy all my fuel from my local small town stations it’s usually a little lower than surrounding areas as we are only a few miles from a major fuel terminal.
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Ticking ever so much closer to $3 a gallon at the Shell station near my house.
That Exxon station I've talked about in the past, the one with no visible competition for a couple of miles, which never dropped its price from $2.999 the entire time other stations in the area were in the high $1 range?
Well it's very happily running its price up... it's now sitting at $3.499 for regular. I just don't see how you can support a gas station with 8 or 10 pumps and a crappy Exxon convenience store with a business model that's based on customer desperation or stupidity. If it were along a major commuter route or near an interstate that would be one thing, but this is a local commuter route and people know that gas prices are significantly cheaper just a mile or two down the road.
I hardly ever see cars at the pumps there.
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If you have a Costco or Sam's Club nearby check out their prices. The price different over a short bit of time depending on how often you fill up will usually more than pay for a membership. I often find their prices to be anywhere from 0.10 to 0.40 cents cheaper.
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If you have a Costco or Sam's Club nearby check out their prices. The price different over a short bit of time depending on how often you fill up will usually more than pay for a membership. I often find their prices to be anywhere from 0.10 to 0.40 cents cheaper.
The Costco card also gives you 4% cash back on gas purchases anywhere. I always try to fill up there when I can, but it's a ways from the house, so I only end up hitting it every other tank or so, usually when going there to shop. Currently $3.09 at the local station, $2.93 at Costco.
EDIT: 4%, not 5%.
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My local Costco is seven miles away and is conveniently located at a freeway interchange. I try to time things so when I fill up, it is at 0630 on my way to work and the 20 mile cruise on the freeway to the office is good for the MPG figures. No waiting then. My wife generally fills up on the weekend during the day and she constantly bitches about the wait at the Costco pumps then. Somehow the concept of leaving at 0650 rather than 0700 on a work day to fill up seems to escape her.
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Ticking ever so much closer to $3 a gallon at the Shell station near my house.
That Exxon station I've talked about in the past, the one with no visible competition for a couple of miles, which never dropped its price from $2.999 the entire time other stations in the area were in the high $1 range?
Well it's very happily running its price up... it's now sitting at $3.499 for regular. I just don't see how you can support a gas station with 8 or 10 pumps and a crappy Exxon convenience store with a business model that's based on customer desperation or stupidity. If it were along a major commuter route or near an interstate that would be one thing, but this is a local commuter route and people know that gas prices are significantly cheaper just a mile or two down the road.
I hardly ever see cars at the pumps there.
Front for money laundering.
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Front for money laundering.
Sounds like.
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$2.669 but I had to drive over twice as far to get it. The station just west of me was out of no lead only had diesel.
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Paid $2.69 for 93/premium on Friday. Costco, Webster, Texas.
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Put 3/4 tank in the truck this afternoon, cost over $50. I haven't paid that much in I don't know how long.
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We've been in the $2.59 to $2.69 range in this area for about a week now.
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$3.07 at the Costco this morning, $3.19 in town.
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3.10 on the Illinois side but I paid $2.54 at Costco on the Iowa side a few days ago.
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Still below $3 a gallon at my location stations, but not by much.
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Colonial Pipeline company was hit with a cyberattack. No prediction yet as to impact on gas prices on the East Coast.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/colonial-pipeline-cyberattack-closure (https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/colonial-pipeline-cyberattack-closure)
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I had an appointment at the VA hospital on Tuesday. Price for regular when I drove by one of the stations I use as a reference was $2.959. I had another appointment on Thursday. Price at the same station was $2.999.
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Prices have pretty much not budged here in Northern Virginia for the past month and a half. The station nearest my house is at $2.859, the Shell down the street is at $2.939, but I buy from there because I have rewards points on my grocery card. Filled up last week for 80 cents off a gallon.
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Even with the high taxes here in Michigan we hovered around $2.20's-$2.30's with a bump up and then down again. We've been celebrating Creepy Joe's first hundred days by having it creep up...$2.90 today.
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$3.29 in town, $3.19 at the Costco. Usually there is a bigger difference between Costco and my town station. Usually closer to $0.20.
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Seeing a bump of about 15 cents to $2.64 in the last week or so.
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The local Murphy went up $0.20/g over the last week, $2.48 to $2.68.
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$2.68 in the Tulsa area.
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Expect prices to spike
One of the nation’s largest pipelines, which carries refined gasoline and jet fuel from Texas up the East Coast to New York, was forced to shut down after being hit by ransomware in a vivid demonstration of the vulnerability of energy infrastructure to cyberattacks.
The operator of the system, Colonial Pipeline, said in a vaguely worded statement late Friday that it had shut down its 5,500 miles of pipeline, which it says carries 45 percent of the East Coast’s fuel supplies, in an effort to contain the breach. Earlier Friday, there were disruptions along the pipeline, but it was not clear at the time whether that was a direct result of the attack or of the company’s moves to proactively halt it.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/05/10/why-gas-prices-could-spike-big-league-soonand-will-bidens-crew-address-it-today-n2589189
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IL-ANNOY just east of St. Louis, MO, jumped to $3.199 several days ago. Some have gone down a few cents but others have gone even higher to $3.239. Today, they range from $3.059-$3.219/gal.
St. Louis city has prices ranging from $2.689-$2.799 (stlouisgasprices.com - use ZIP code 63110 and pick a station).
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Just filled up at Sam's Club in Louisville $2.84
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Sounds like it's gonna take a short term jump for part of the South and East after that ransomware hack. I saw Biden signed an emergency declaration for 17 states.
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AV gas went up .50 cents last month.
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My house is about 8 miles from a huge pipeline terminal/storage for the upstate of SC. It’s fed by the Colonial pipeline. Our wonderful *expletive deleted*ing reporters just couldn’t resist running their damn mouths about it today so as of this evening everybody and their cousin is filling up every car and jerrycan they own. This will of course create an immediate shortage as all the stations go dry.
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Have fun walking to work.
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Made a ~250 mile circle through E Texas today. I couldn't keep track of every station we passed, but I don't recall seeing any that were above ~$2.90 for regular.
If only it will stay in that price range....
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Wow, I must be in a bad spot. I just drove from Idaho to Utah to Nevada. Locally it's 3.10-3.20, but the stations out in the remote places are 3.50 or so.
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https://twitter.com/GSuskinWSOC9/status/1391929316242563073
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Will trade sheet of plywood for gas
Just kidding
Will trade gas for a sheet of plywood
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2020 - Toilet paper
2021 - Gas
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$3.38 this morning in town.
Side note, I guess because the New York Times can't see any gas stations from their downtown NYC high rise windows, they are saying that there are no gas lines and no stations are running out of gas. That's all just conservative lies! :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/05/11/absolute-garbage-liars-nyt-blasted-for-gaslighting-like-nobodys-business-in-desperate-piece-whitewashing-obvious-gas-shortage/
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Tried to check GasBuddy and it's jammed
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As I am typing this, my wife is waiting in line at the gas station waiting for her turn at the pump. She is back just a couple of cars, fortunately. A gas truck is making a delivery and the attendants are taking the bags off the pump nozzles. I expect they will run out again pretty fast.
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Tried to check GasBuddy and it's jammed
Interesting. I tried here and all the stations near me are showing dashes where the price should be (using the map function). Prices closer to Boise are showing around $3.10, but I'm wondering if that's right, because Costco is showing $3.15, and places like Chevron are never cheaper than them. I guess prices are fluctuating too fast for the software.
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I can't even get into it, all I get is the loading graphic followed by a Try Again button.
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No problem at all getting into GasBuddy for me. I've seen stations near me rise a couple of cents a gallon over the last 48 hours, but nothing explosive.
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I filled up last weekend, and I've still got 3/4rs of a tank. And, being so close to work right now, a tank is lasting me nearly a month so I should be good through this mess.
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$2.89 here in the NE corner of Indian Territory.
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$2.77 out here in middle of nowhere. Up almost ten cents from last week.
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$2.59 just now. Jumped about ten cents last week but came back down over the weekend. Nothing out of the ordinary at any stations I passed on the way in after lunch.
Brad
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Today is the first time I ever put premium in a car.
I wish this happened last week. If this happened last week I could have just laughed. Instead, I had to get premium *expletive deleted*ing gas. *sigh* $3.19 a gallon.
I predict that what little was left in C-ville is probably gone by now (or will be by 5 pm)
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Secretary Pete Buttigieg
@SecretaryPete
We can fix our roads, guarantee broadband access, expand transit, and connect communities to good-paying jobs. What are we waiting for?
12:56 PM · May 11, 2021
Margot Cleveland
@ProfMJCleveland
Gas?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/05/11/gas-transportation-secretary-pete-buttigieg-asks-what-were-waiting-for-gets-his-answer/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1JLK7SWUAATLuS?format=jpg&name=large)
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Post on Nextdoor
Erica Pease my wife just showed me a video of a woman literally pumping gas into a garbage bag and putting it into her trunk. There was no container inside the bag but atleast she did double bag it! OMG!
Would like to see that video
Edit: Think I found it and it's from Dec 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7784271/Woman-pumps-gas-plastic-bag-puts-trunk-car.html
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The one station near my house went from $2.89 to $3.06 overnight. Screw them.
The others haven't budged over the last 2 days. The Citgo did go up 4 cents on Sunday, I believe.
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Filled up yesterday. $2.53 per gallon. Much higher than a year ago.
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Always use the proper container.
(https://i.imgur.com/gaGqO9E.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/COwOPiOpvb3/?igshid=15ehl58u0tco0
Better than a plastic bag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRjNdgAetQE
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This is much better.
(https://i.imgur.com/acMA1cg.jpg)
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You can't make this ___ up
US Consumer Product Safety Commission
@USCPSC
·
9h
Do not fill plastic bags with gasoline.
https://twitter.com/USCPSC/status/1392482092823502849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1392482092823502849%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2021%2F05%2F12%2Fwatch-the-us-consumer-product-safety-commission-tweeted-out-handy-tips-and-an-amazing-video-on-how-to-hoard-gasoline-safely%2F
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Patrick De Haan ⛽️📊
@GasBuddyGuy
Gasoline Outages by state, percent of all stations without gasoline:
AL 7%
WASH DC 10%
FL 11%
GA 43%
KY 2%
MD 11%
MS 5%
NC 65%
SC 43%
TN 16%
VA 44%
WV 4%
2:14 PM · May 12, 2021
NBC News
@NBCNews
BREAKING: Colonial Pipeline, operator of the largest U.S. fuel pipeline, says it is restarting operations after being shut down for 5 days due to a cyberattack that led to gas shortages and temporary price hikes.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/05/12/colonial-pipeline-back-online-n2589350
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Quite a few of the stations around my house are out of gasoline right now.
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Quite a few of the stations around my house are out of gasoline right now.
No they aren't. That's white supremacist propaganda. Get an electric car.
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Quite a few of the stations around my house are out of gasoline right now.
Did you show them your white card? ;)
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No they aren't. That's white supremacist propaganda. Get an electric car.
And hope the power grid doesn't get hacked or the windmills don't freeze up.
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And hope the power grid doesn't get hacked or the windmills don't freeze up.
I saw yesterday that a reporter set up Biden's energy secretary with a softball question that led to her saying (paraphrased) "If we had more electric cars, this wouldn't be happening". These people. ;/
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8-Bit Guy on YT made a good point in his house got ruin in Texas video about the Chevy volt. Say what you will about the car but you do have the option of either filling it or charging it or both.
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NBC News
@NBCNews
BREAKING: Colonial Pipeline, operator of the largest U.S. fuel pipeline, says it is restarting operations after being shut down for 5 days due to a cyberattack that led to gas shortages and temporary price hikes.
I call BS on the "temporary" part.
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Is there a gas shortage in Portlan?
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Is there a gas shortage in Portlan?
Don't know, but Mrgunsngear (posted it on instagram) declared the KS47 the official gas station security gun.
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https://www.firehouse.com/operations-training/news/21222794/fl-hummer-catches-fire-after-driver-fills-up-several-gas-cans
Citrus County firefighters put out a burning Hummer H2 that caught fire soon after the driver had filled up four 5-gallon gas cans at a Homosassa station.
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Looking at the embedded video, do you think the fire started at the gas cans? I would have thought they would be burned up. Maybe they put it out pretty fast.
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Looking at the picture, my first thought is a fire starting in the engine compartment.
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Just got gas at a station near my house. It was out this morning, but this afternoon when I passed there was a tanker there.
Line wasn't bad, but the damned pumps were trickling fuel. Took me nearly 10 minutes to get 10 gallons.
People were doing some stupid *expletive deleted*it, too. One idiot was filling a bunch of individual disposable water bottles, no bigger than 1 quart. He was mostly managing to spill gas everywhere.
I'm really shocked that I've not seen someone shoving the nozzle up their ass to colon a few quarts home.
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Dang, at least have the presence of mind to go buy some 1 gallon water jugs and use those.
They probably also thought they fill them all the way up. I don't do that with 5 gallon cans.
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We had a local POS in a car with stolen plates get or steal gas in containers in her trunk and the cops tried to pull her over after getting a hit on the plates and she chose to run until she crashed and burned. Being a cockroach of society she’s still alive in a burn center being paid for by us taxpayers of course.
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I overheard a woman at PT that was talking about how the line to an empty gas station was blocking the tanker from getting in. :rofl:
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I think I figured out why the pumps were trickling gasoline last night...
I bet the station slowed the pumps down so that people filling unapproved containers like water bottles wouldn't be spraying gas all over themselves, their cars, the ground, the pumps when they tried to fill them.
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I think I figured out why the pumps were trickling gasoline last night...
I bet the station slowed the pumps down so that people filling unapproved containers like water bottles wouldn't be spraying gas all over themselves, their cars, the ground, the pumps when they tried to fill them.
When the underground tanks are low on gas, the pumps slow down. I've seen that many times. Don't ask me why they slow as I have no idea. Someone else on here may have the answer.
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Probably reduces the air they suck up with the gas.
Lots of the internet sources for quality gas cans have been hit hard. Just when I was going to order a few Wavian Jerry cans. I ended up going with some old Czech milsurp cans for $25 each to try out and a couple of the Valpo manufactured Midwest Jerry cans for immediate use.
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Probably reduces the air they suck up with the gas.
Lots of the internet sources for quality gas cans have been hit hard. Just when I was going to order a few Wavian Jerry cans. I ended up going with some old Czech milsurp cans for $25 each to try out and a couple of the Valpo manufactured Midwest Jerry cans for immediate use.
https://majorsurplus.com/20-liter-military-style-fuel-can.html
I think I have one of these. I had to look up the Wavian. Those look good. They show in stock on their website (smaller cans only).
https://wavianusa.com/
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When the underground tanks are low on gas, the pumps slow down. I've seen that many times. Don't ask me why they slow as I have no idea. Someone else on here may have the answer.
I have a good guess; the pumps have pretty good volume but not a lot of head, and when the level in the tanks gets low they have a few more feet to lift the gas and might be approaching their limit on suction head. (the absolute max is less than 30' lift on the suction side.
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$2.75-2.85 here in central Ky but we are above the pipeline and get our gas from a Marathon tank yard. No shortage and no lines.
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With so many people getting their gas while - or shortly after - a tanker unloads, I wonder how many will end up having engine problems later from all the dirt and condensation that gets stirred up in those underground tanks and pumped into their tanks? :facepalm:
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With so many people getting their gas while - or shortly after - a tanker unloads, I wonder how many will end up having engine problems later from all the dirt and condensation that gets stirred up in those underground tanks and pumped into their tanks? :facepalm:
We seem to agree on a lot of issues. I find myself nodding my head when I read your posts. Since I am considered as being way out there in my take on things, I have to wonder what your folks think.
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I have a good guess; the pumps have pretty good volume but not a lot of head, and when the level in the tanks gets low they have a few more feet to lift the gas and might be approaching their limit on suction head. (the absolute max is less than 30' lift on the suction side.
That sounds like a reasonable explanation.
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That sounds like a reasonable explanation.
Actually since gasoline is lighter than water, the theoretical limit is probably a little more than 30 feet. :-[ I forgot that part. But I still think that's the reason the pumps slow down; they are working harder to lift the column of liquid up from the tank.
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When the underground tanks are low on gas, the pumps slow down. I've seen that many times. Don't ask me why they slow as I have no idea. Someone else on here may have the answer.
Except the tanks had been filled, literally that afternoon.
I'm also hearing from a bunch of other people who have hit other stations that the pumps have been slowed down. I still think it has more to do with idiots filling water bottles than anything else.
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I don't buy the head lift explanation.
Most gas station tanks are no bigger than 24,000 gallons, which is a mean dimension of 9 feet in diameter by about 48 feet long (not all stations have tanks that big, either).
Gas station tanks are buried between 5-10 feet deep, depending on ground conditions, but the average seems to be about 7 feet. So, 7 feet plus 9 feet means the bottom of the tank is 16 feet. And those tanks don't draw off the bottom, they either use dip tubes or side draw with the pipe a few feet from the bottom of tank, so realistically a vertical lift of between 12-14 feet.
There are a couple of different kinds of pumps -- tank submerged impellers and push fuel up, and more standard suction pumps that sit outside the tank and pull fuel out.
Neither style has much trouble dealing with a 14 foot vertical lift. The amount of lift the pump needs to generate also doesn't change. It remains static because the pump and dip tube locations don't change relative to the level of gas in the tank.
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I don't buy the head lift explanation.
Most gas station tanks are no bigger than 24,000 gallons, which is a mean dimension of 9 feet in diameter by about 48 feet long (not all stations have tanks that big, either).
Gas station tanks are buried between 5-10 feet deep, depending on ground conditions, but the average seems to be about 7 feet. So, 7 feet plus 9 feet means the bottom of the tank is 16 feet. And those tanks don't draw off the bottom, they either use dip tubes or side draw with the pipe a few feet from the bottom of tank, so realistically a vertical lift of between 12-14 feet.
There are a couple of different kinds of pumps -- tank submerged impellers and push fuel up, and more standard suction pumps that sit outside the tank and pull fuel out.
Neither style has much trouble dealing with a 14 foot vertical lift. The amount of lift the pump needs to generate also doesn't change. It remains static because the pump and dip tube locations don't change relative to the level of gas in the tank.
The lift does change with the level of gas in the tank; doesn't matter whether you draw from the bottom or the top, and it does affect the flow rate out of a suction pump. I don't know if it's a significant amount or not.
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Please tell me this is fake
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Please tell me this is fake
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It would make more sense if there was a trash bag used as a liner. Not a lot more sense, but more than zero.
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$2.80 today in Springfield Ohio
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The lift does change with the level of gas in the tank; doesn't matter whether you draw from the bottom or the top, and it does affect the flow rate out of a suction pump. I don't know if it's a significant amount or not.
OK, I was thinking about this a bit more, and I realized that the head lift would change if the tank used a top mounted suction tube, but it wouldn't change if it used a side draw tube.
And no, I don't think a change in a couple of feet would make much of a difference at all.
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OK, I was thinking about this a bit more, and I realized that the head lift would change if the tank used a top mounted suction tube, but it wouldn't change if it used a side draw tube.
And no, I don't think a change in a couple of feet would make much of a difference at all.
Yes it would, yes it does. Physics be like it is, yo.
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Answers from the ducks of knowledge seem to indicate that turbulence in the main tank caused by a fuel delivery will fool the leak detectors in the pump system. This causes the pumps to go into a slower mode to limit any leakage.
Slow pumping can also occur after pumps haven't been used for a while. Sitting overnight without much use can also allow air into the system that fools the leak detectors. This causes slow pumping for the first few gas buyers in the morning.
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Slow pumping seems to occur for me every time two or more people are using the pumps at the same time. It is most obvious when two people are using opposite sides of the same pump.
As for the pump(s), is there just one or two pumps that supply pressure to all of the dispensers or does each dispenser get its own pump?
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Yes it would, yes it does. Physics be like it is, yo.
Ok, exactly what are you referring to? That side siphon would change the head lift? How?
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Slow pumping seems to occur for me every time two or more people are using the pumps at the same time. It is most obvious when two people are using opposite sides of the same pump.
As for the pump(s), is there just one or two pumps that supply pressure to all of the dispensers or does each dispenser get its own pump?
I believe that the standard design is that each storage tank has the main pump. Individual fueling stands may have a small booster pump designed to regulate pressure through the delivery pump meter.
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Ok, exactly what are you referring to? That side siphon would change the head lift? How?
You measure the lift from the liquid level in the tank; doesn't matter whether you draw from the top, middle, or bottom. As the level drops, the pump has to work harder. When the lift equals the atmospheric pressure the flow stops completely (unless you pressurize the tank) The lift is nowhere near the limit here -- it might be approaching half the limit -- so I don't know if the effect is significant or not.
If there's a submersible pump in the tank, it's not the issue.
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OK, that's interesting. Seems counterintuitive to me, but I'll go with it as this is not an area in which I have a lot of knowledge.
I'm trying to find some specifications regarding how high a pump can lift a column of fluid, but I'm not sure that I'm searching the correct terms. The only thing I've found is for well jet pumps. Depending on the pump, they can lift water upwards 100 feet.
But no mater what, I'm really thinking that the amount of lift found in your average gas station is basically negligible.
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OK, that's interesting. Seems counterintuitive to me, but I'll go with it as this is not an area in which I have a lot of knowledge.
I'm trying to find some specifications regarding how high a pump can lift a column of fluid, but I'm not sure that I'm searching the correct terms. The only thing I've found is for well jet pumps. Depending on the pump, they can lift water upwards 100 feet.
But no mater what, I'm really thinking that the amount of lift found in your average gas station is basically negligible.
A suction pump can lift water approximately 29 feet. Full stop. A jet pump is something else; I just vaguely know how they work. :)
On the pressure side, whatever the maximum output pressure is you multiply that by 2 for approximately how high it can pump water. The higher you pump it, the lower the pressure will be at the discharge end of the pipe/hose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d05oqOXXSdw
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President Joe Biden is putting the spotlight Tuesday on the electric vehicle future he envisions for the United States, as a way to tackle climate change and create jobs.
https://www.wave3.com/2021/05/18/biden-spotlight-electric-vehicle-future-he-sees-us/
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Gas prices are starting to slip back a little bit here in Northern Virginia from the spike they took when Colonial's IT security team *expletive deleted*it the bed.
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$3.40 in town, $3.25 at the Costco.
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$2.70 roughly here in Central Ky.
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Gas prices went down a few pennies last week, but have popped back to where they jumped to when the pipeline shut down. Wheee...
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https://www.wave3.com/2021/05/18/biden-spotlight-electric-vehicle-future-he-sees-us/
Yeah it’ll create jobs in Mexico and overseas and feed lots of graft into politicians pockets.
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69.18 to fill up the truck today. I didn't look at price but this is the first time in a long time it took over fifty.
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Gas is holding steady here at 2.899 a gallon at most stations, and 2.799 at Costco, Fleet Farm, and the big KwikTrip across the highway from Fleet Farm.
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$3.35~ in Oregon.
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$2.60 at the Murphy's in the Wal-Mart lot yesterday in Shreveport, LA NOT using any membership discounts.
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$2.84 Sam's Club Louisville
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$ 3.19 at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.68 around Tulsa.
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Just drove rt from Dallas to Gilbert AZ, I20 to I10. Prices ranged from $2.70 to $3.40. There was one station I paid $3.55, but it was out in the middle of nowhere so it being a bit higher was expected. AZ had the highest prices overall, very few stations there were less than $3.00, I found a couple at ~$2.97. TX & NM both have about the same pricing, in the $2.90 range.
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Ahead of this holiday weekend, prices spiked from as low as $2.899 to as much as $3.299.
Some stations have already dropped today to as low as $3.159, now that everybody that was driving for this weekend had gotten suckered and shafted.
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It's $3.65 in town right now. All these jackass Californians moving here are bringing their gas prices with them. Also, thanks 46, who just announced he wants to raise taxes on fossil fuel companies by $90 billion. That should be a big additional help after returning us to oil beggar status from oil producer status.
Also, what the hell, BP? I bought your stock so that when oil starts going through the roof I can use the profit to cover my increased fuel costs. You're not supposed to go down while oil is going up. :laugh:
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I didn't look at the price Saturday but $75.00 sure hurt to fill the truck up.
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I sold my car and started driving my truck full time last month.
If I let it get under a quarter of a tank, it won't fill before the pump shuts off for max dollar/purchase. Nothing like having to swipe the card twice to fill up.
Around here we're seeing $2.89-$3.09/gal on average
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Yesterday Murphy's was $2.69. I do hope it doesn't go up overnight - tomorrow's the day I fill the 6 x 5gal cans & the truck's at 1/4 tank. Definitely gonna be a double-swipe at the pump.
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We're $3.15. A year ago it was a buck cheaper.
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$2.789 here
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Now at $3.60'ish in the middle of the left coast.
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Wide range here. Two days ago I paid $2.879 for regular at BJ's discout club. Prices at non-discount stations along my route ranged from $3.209 to $3.299.
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I paid $2.859 a gallon near where Castle Key lives in Virginia. Back home, it's looking to be about $3.099 a gallon.
Yep, a buck more expensive than it was a year ago.
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If I let it get under a quarter of a tank, it won't fill before the pump shuts off for max dollar/purchase. Nothing like having to swipe the card twice to fill up.
That's actually a pretty good indicator on gas prices. I think the last time that happened to me was around 2012 in CA, when gas prices were $4+. I recall a lot of gas stations having to up their cutoff limits because of complaints not just from people driving trucks with big tanks, but complaints from car drivers as well.
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Well, they raised the price at Murphy's. Went from $2.69 to $2.74. 53.8 gals total.
Maybe that'll last to the end of summer, doubt it though.
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Oddly enough, the price at the Citgo near my house dropped to $2.999 yesterday.
I just looked at my grocery store rewards points, and I'll be getting about $1 a gallon discount on my next fill up.
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$2.89 just North of Tulsa this morning. Filled up a few days ago for $2.71.
Thanks Joe!
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$ 3.39/gallon unleaded this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle. Costco is running $ 0.25 - .35 cents less per gallon than the surrounding gas stations.
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Gas price was $2.80 per gallon at Bucees this afternoon for regular. I haven't seen it that high here in some time. Been higher that last few times I filled up.
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$3.69 in town, $3.59 at the Costco. Usually the delta at Costco is what Millcreek posted. Don't know what's going on there.
$3.75 for diesel. Don't know what the offroad is. That's what I usually get, but I was totally out and didn't want to waste the 1.5 hour round trip to the closest place that sells it, which I usually hit when I'm combining errands out thataway.
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Stations on the I-5 corridor are knocking on $4's door.
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$ 3.45/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco 45 miles north of Seattle. I just bought a used mint condition 2011 Yamaha Zuma 125 scooter to go puttering around the local back roads. It is recommended to use premium, and I like to use Chevron gas with Techron in the motorcycles. The closest Chevron to me is charging $ 4.50/gallon for premium unleaded.
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Off-road is hard to find here in the middle of farm country. Not sure what that is about.
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$3.00 is hitting here. I don’t even know why the *expletive deleted*ck I get up and go to work in the morning with the cost of everything shooting up and these non working mother *expletive deleted*ers in this state living the good life on my back.
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In southwestern IL-ANNOY (just east of St. Louis), prices jumped yesterday from about $3.059 for the lowest prices to some stations charging $3.399/gal.
I just checked "stlouisgasprices.com/" and the lowest is now $3.199 with most $3.299-3.399.
And we just had a new gas tax added on as of 7/1/21 due to an "automatic annual increase" Gov. "Jabba" snuck into the budget in 2019. It doubled the gas tax last year and now, the legislators don't have to vote on a tax increase and explain it to voters. [barf] :facepalm:
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The Citgo near my house is, oddly enough, still $2.999 a gallon.
The Sunoco around the corner is $3.069, and the Shell across the street is $3.149 a gallon.
But, I get reward points from my local grocery store that convert into gas savings... My next fill up, later this afternoon or tomorrow morning, will be at the Shell... I'll be getting 80 cents a gallon off, for $2.349 a gallon.
Haven't paid that little for gasoline since last year some time.
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We are around $2.80 here in North Central Kentucky. It fluctuates some outside of Louisville, which is usually 30-40 cents higher than the rest of the state.
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My friends from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, are in town. They stopped by to see me after a family trip back to Pennsylvania after a death in the family.
He says that gasoline in Iowa is in the $2.80 to $2.90 range.
Oil prices have come down a bit in the past few days, but nothing substantial enough to bring the price of gasoline down anytime soon.
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WTI is down over $5 a barrel, dropping into the $66 a barrel range.
RBOB Gasoline is down 14.5 cents a gallon right now.
Yikes.
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Paid $3.90 today. Never thought I'd see $4 gas in Idaho, but it looks like I will before Summer's end. Thanks 46. Jackass.
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$2.75 Costco, Louisville
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Over the hill from Vegas where it hit hit 4 dollars or more a gallon we are paying 3.45 a gallon for regular, 3.55 for diesel.
bob
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Gasoline prices have pretty much stabilized in Northern Virginia.
The Citgo near my house is sitting at $2.999.
The Sunoco around the corner is at $3.049.
The Shell across the street from it is at $3.149.
I normally tank up at the Shell because I get rewards points at my local grocery store and they are paired with Shell.
Two weeks ago when I got I paid $2.349 with my points off.
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Running around $2.80 here in the NE corner of Indian Territory.
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I paid $2.149 a gallon Saturday...
I loves me my bonus points!
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Holding at $3.60 for 87 octane.
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For some reason, Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah are way above the national average. According to the article, Idaho is normally 20-30 cents above the average, but is now ~60 cents above the average. Idaho apparently gets much of its gas from Utah. I was surprised to see that gas stocks are low in Wyoming though.
https://www.kivitv.com/news/gas-prices-nearing-4-in-the-treasure-valley
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We were in west and north Michigan last week. In Holland, gas was $ 3.12. In the upper peninsula, gas was $ 3.29.
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$2.86 in Bardstown Ky
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Just east of St. Louis, the prices around here range from $3.279 to $3.499/gal. That high price is at a BP station near a major shopping mall while the majority of the stations range from $3.329 - $3.399/gal. :mad:
And IL-ANNOY had a gas tax increase on 7/1/21 and will now have one every year ! "Jabba" got a law passed in 2019 that allows this tax increase every year without the legislature having vote on it at all. By not voting on it, they don't have to face the wrath of the voters. [barf]
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$ 3.43/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.99 yesterday evening in Ky 40 miles south of Louisville.
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We've been holding at ~$3.90. An article this morning indicates this is ~$1.40 higher than this time last year. Thanks again, 46.
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$2.75-$2.80 here in NE Oklahoma.
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Holding at $2.89-$2.99 here in Tampa. At least they changed the auto shutoff at the station I normally go to so I can fill up in one swipe of the Credit Card now.
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$2.86 as of this morning. Sam's Club, Louisville
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Prices here in Northern Virginia have been stable for about 2 months now. $2.999 at the Ctigo around the corner, $3.149 at the Shell where I use my grocery store rewards points.
Price of oil has been slumping the last week, so we may see a little easing at the pumps unless it shoots back up.
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Prices here in Northern Virginia have been stable for about 2 months now. $2.999 at the Ctigo around the corner, $3.149 at the Shell where I use my grocery store rewards points.
Price of oil has been slumping the last week, so we may see a little easing at the pumps unless it shoots back up.
Shhhh, don't wake Joe
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I paid $3.98 for super this morning in northern NJ. That was my first $60 fill up in quite a while. Might be time to start taking it a little easier on the throttle, the Challenger only did 15.2 mpg that tank. :O
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Up to $2.89 this afternoon.
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2.80ish a gallon
God I miss $35 fillups. I’m so happy I was liberated from the terror of cheap gas and hefty pay raises by the Dems it was a holy terror
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The old truck would get up to 18mpg. The new (to me '08) has maxed out at 16.3 - usually closer to 15mpg.
And prices for regular 10% are ~$1 more per gal this year at $2.78.
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The old truck would get up to 18mpg. The new (to me '08) has maxed out at 16.3 - usually closer to 15mpg.
And prices for regular 10% are ~$1 more per gal this year at $2.78.
What kind of truck?
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What kind of truck?
The old one was a 1990 GMC 2500 long bed std cab, 2wd, 4spd auto, throttle body injection, 350ci, IIRC 3.73 gears & a camper shell.
The "new" one is a 2008 RAM 1/2 ton, 4 door, short bed, 4wd, (at least) 4spd auto, 350ci HEMI, no idea what the gear ratio is.
Really didn't want to get rid of the old truck, lots of good times with it and less than 190k miles. But in the last year and a half I had to replace the fuel pump, window regulator, brakes & water pump. The radio stopped working (complete dash remodel to replace - not your standard radio), the AC condenser needed replacing 'cause all the fins were bent, tires were getting close, tranny wasn't shifting properly. Parked in the yard it's last day and the radiator sprung a leak. And there was water in the oil. Didn't/don't have the time or shop to rebuild (another) small block, thought about having a junk yard motor installed but SWMBO didn't want to go that route. So... I'm driving my first ever Dodge.
The RAM does have a bit going for it, the ride's smoother & quieter, there's a bit more get up & go and the 4 doors are nice. Don't like the short bed & miss the camper shell though. And it's not as easy to get in & out of since it sits higher. That's going to get worse as I get older. Haven't had to use the 4wd yet, but it's nice knowing it's there if/when I do.
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The old one was a 1990 GMC 2500 long bed std cab, 2wd, 4spd auto, throttle body injection, 350ci, IIRC 3.73 gears & a camper shell.
The "new" one is a 2008 RAM 1/2 ton, 4 door, short bed, 4wd, (at least) 4spd auto, 350ci HEMI, no idea what the gear ratio is.
Your Ram has a 5 speed, and Dodge actually recommends running 89 octane in their 5.7 Hemi. That switch might get you the bit of extra mileage you’re looking for. If nothing else, it’ll keep the engine from pulling too much timing and costing you horsepower. A friend of mine had that same truck new, and I remember it being pretty picky about the gas he put in.
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I'll have to give the 89 octane a try. Just about time for a fill up anyway.
It would be nice to pick up a couple hp. The truck has a bit of a time towing an enclosed 12' trailer with just a riding mower in it. I can watch the mileage drop when pulling the trailer; it's dropped from 15.8 to the mid 13's in about 15 miles at 55 - 60mph.
I haven't even looked at the price of the higher grade gas.
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Gas is actually down here. Not a lot. $3.90 in town, $3.75 at the Costco.
I never know what to believe regarding things affecting gas prices anymore, but a local news story said gas didn't drop here as much as usual post-Labor Day due to Hurricane Ida. We get our fuel from a completely different region, so operationally (vs markets) I don't know how that would affect us.
The story further suggested that oil will hit $100/barrel this Winter.
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We went up a few cents. $3.00. Over $70 to fill the truck sucks. Propane is up over 50% from last year and we are still on summer prices.
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I just paid like $1.90 for propane for the house tank and was thinking it was cheaper than last year. I'll need to check my records. I think the last time I filled a 20# tank it was like $2.30.
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We're still in the very tight band we've been in since spring.
The Citgo near my house has been stuck at $2.99, the Sunoco around the corner at $3.06 (although it's wavered between $3.04 and $3.06 several times), and the Shell across the street was at $3.14, but has dropped to $3.09.
I need to fill up in the next day or so, and I'll hit the Shell because I have gas rewards points that will will get me 60 cents a gallon off the pump price.
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Prices have started to rise here in Northern Virginia.
The Citgo near my house, which had been at $2.999 for months, jumped up to $3.099 Saturday.
The other stations around my house have also started to creep up.
WTI is now over $81 a barrel and is gaining hard for the day. I don't expect this run up to back off any time soon, either, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us closing in on $100 a barrel oil by the end of the year.
On the plus side, US drillers are activating more wells, but I'm sure Uncle Joe will have something to say about that and will do everything he can to cripple US crude production even more than he already has.
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We're on both sides of $3 a gallon in this area. Some stations just under, some just over.
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Last couple of weeks we've been bouncing between $2.75 - $2.90, hasn't broken the $3.00 point yet.
Thanks Joe. :mad:
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We're on both sides of $3 a gallon in this area. Some stations just under, some just over.
That's where it was here for the past few weeks, but now everything is just over $3, even the E15 blend.
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$ 3.47/gallon yesterday at the Marysville Costco 45 miles north of Seattle.
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Murphy is still at $2.77, but the gas station down the street is now at $2.84. I expect Murphy to go up before noon tomorrow, the 2 of them stay at the same price most of the time.
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Okayfine - I looked at the gas gauge for the first bit of the Knob Creek trip... I was close to 20mpg going through Illinois. 3/4 ton 1995 Chevy, 350 V8, tow package, no tow, tires were 35 for the fronts, 38 for the rears. 87 Octane from Quik Trip.
55-62 mph, set with cruise control, according to traffic level.
Folks got there faster than I did. Except that I kept seeing several of 'em passing me.
"Keep the left door closed."
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$3.149 in Waterloo, IA for E-10 87 octane.
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Citgo jumped another 6 cents yesterday. Now at $3.159.
We're going to get close to $4 a gallon here in Northern Virginia, I'm afraid.
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$3.85 in town, $3.67 at the Costco.
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Heh.
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A year ago, iirc, gas was back and forth mostly between 1.90 and 2.25, with a little spike for a few days at times. I filled up yesterday at 3.37.
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$100 a barrel and $4.00 a gallon by the holidays won't surprise me at all.
Let's go Brandon.
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Just went up to $3.29 here in Ohio…. :facepalm:
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$4.09 for super today in NJ. That was my first ever $60 fill up in the Challenger. My wife ran the new Jeep down below a quarter tank over the last couple of days, now I’ll have to go fill it in the morning before she leaves on a weekend girls’ trip. I’m sure that 20+ gallon fill up will have me whispering “let’s go Brandon” before I’m even out of their parking lot.
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2.9995 at the Shreveport Raceway on Bert Kouns.
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In May of 2020, gas price bottomed out locally at 1.499.
Here's this year's gas price paid just outside Austin, TX (Regular, Shell)
01/07/2021 1.899
10/14/2021 2.799 (Up 47%. Highest price per gallon since 2014)
Yesterday I saw regular at our local Texaco station advertised at 3.09, but they're ALWAYS 20-30 cents higher than other local stations, probably because they're the ONLY local gas station that does auto repair as well.
In any case, seeing as who the culprit is for all rising prices (not just gas) . . . Let's Go Brandon!
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Still flirting with $3 gas in this area.
Some oil traders are getting their crazy on, too.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/crazy-bets-200-oil-options-market (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/crazy-bets-200-oil-options-market)
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Filled up yesterday for $2.99. A week ago I filled up for $2.71. Sure glad not to be making the 500 mile a week commute anymore.
Let's go Brandon!
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Up to $3.239 at the local Citgo.
Even more expensive at the stations around the corner.
And oil continues to rise.
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I paid $3.05 for 87 octane at a Virginia Costco on Saturday. While I was pumping, the attendant was notified that the price would increase to $3.09 later in the day.
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$2.85 per gallon here for the lower octane. That is at Bucees which is usually cheaper than most.
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$3.20 here. Sucked filling up today.
Let's go Brandon.
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$4.22 for super this morning, and that’s after our gas tax just dropped $.08…
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Southwestern IL-ANNOY (just SE of St. Louis) has jumped over the last 2 days with an increasing number of stations going up to $3.559.
According to stlouisgasprices.com, there were a few stations around $3.279 but none were close to me. I was lucky to find one station that was still $3.369 this morning. :facepalm:
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I paid $3.255 yesterday. Over $40 to fill up because I was down to under 1/4 of a tank. That smarted.
The next fill up should be between 60 and 70 cents off the pump price (whatever that's going to be) due to my accumulated rewards points I get at my grocery store.
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We just went over the $3 mark last night. Yesterday gas was $2.87. This morning it was $3.06 for the cheap stuff.
I've got 50 gallons worth of empty cans sitting here waiting to be filled. I'd have filled them yesterday, but the doc said I shouldn't drive.
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We are in the 3.05 range in SC. I love paying $65 a week just to get to work and back.
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Costs me 2 gallons a day to commute.
That $1/hr raise isn't going to go far....
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It's $3.86 in town and $3.65 at Costco. I read a local news story that apparently Idaho prices are slightly dropping while the rest of the country is going up. It's possible. The Eastern Pacific Northwest is weird with gas prices.
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Different kind of fuel. $620.00 to fill my propane tank from 30% to 80%. That's a lot more than a 54% increase from last year and it's not even cold yet.
Let go Brandon. I would so love to shove my boot up the butt of whoever is actually running this country. It sure isn't Biden.
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I'd hold 'em still for you.
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I'd hold 'em still for you.
Thanks. My aim is not what it used to be. I might kick them in the nutz a couple of times before I find the right spot.
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That's fine, take as many shots as you need.
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Wife said gas jumped to 3.20 in the small city she works in. I went and filled up tonight at 3.02 just down the corner from the house. As I was pulling out the tanker pulled in so I expect their price will rise by tomorrow to $3.15-3.20.
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And people were wondering why I didn't want to move to a desk at the nice, new facility about 12 miles from my house.
Well, because I had a pretty damned good idea we were going to see hard spiking gasoline prices sooner rather than later and because I live right around 2 miles from the office where I chose to stay and work.
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$3.09 here yesterday, unfortunately I was buying the pure gas premium at $3.84 a gallon 2 5 gallon cans and 5 gallons for the M715.
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We bumped about 30 cents a gallon in the last week. Most stations in this area are at least $3.25, many are $3.29 or higher.
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$3.09 in Kansas City. Not awesome, not crippling.
A rather left wing acquaintance told me he'd like to see gas a $10 a gallon, because the resulting market forces would help push electric cars. I countered that the folks most hurt by that are working people who are just trying to get by. Folks that probably drive used cars, can't afford $10 gas, and certainly can't afford a new electric car. I also said that until we get reliable zero carbon electricity in the form of nuclear power, we really haven't fixed anything. His perspective was that any form of economic, cultural or infrastructure change inevitably leads to hardship for some people. But, that that those hardships are in this case worth it, because the alternative is extremely severe - climate change that threatens the survival of all humanity within a few generations. He did agree that we needed to be building nuclear power plants.
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$3.81 for regular at the ARCO by I-5.
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$3.09 in Kansas City. Not awesome, not crippling.
A rather left wing acquaintance told me he'd like to see gas a $10 a gallon, because the resulting market forces would help push electric cars. I countered that the folks most hurt by that are working people who are just trying to get by. Folks that probably drive used cars, can't afford $10 gas, and certainly can't afford a new electric car. I also said that until we get reliable zero carbon electricity in the form of nuclear power, we really haven't fixed anything. His perspective was that any form of economic, cultural or infrastructure change inevitably leads to hardship for some people. But, that that those hardships are in this case worth it, because the alternative is extremely severe - climate change that threatens the survival of all humanity within a few generations. He did agree that we needed to be building nuclear power plants.
Did you ask him for a plan for China and India?
As someone that has to drive a truck to be able to work tell him I'm sure he will get used to my size 11 boot in his butt after a few days. We all have to sacrifice.
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A rather left wing acquaintance told me he'd like to see gas a $10 a gallon,
Not to mention the $10-$15 a gallon jug of milk, the $12 loaf of bread, $20 a pound hamburger that goes with those fuel prices... If we're lucky.
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SO glad for that 5.9% COL raise in our Social Security/VA Disability!
(and I'm not even kidding!!!)
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Stopped at the gas station on the way home. Prices had dropped $0.02 since yesterday, down to $3.04 for the cheap stuff. I had six empty 5 gallon cans and 1/4 tank in the truck.
I was able to get away from there for only $156.00.
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3.10 for regular unleaded at the Shreveport Raceway on Bert Kouns.
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$3.09 in Kansas City. Not awesome, not crippling.
A rather left wing acquaintance told me he'd like to see gas a $10 a gallon, because the resulting market forces would help push electric cars. I countered that the folks most hurt by that are working people who are just trying to get by. Folks that probably drive used cars, can't afford $10 gas, and certainly can't afford a new electric car. I also said that until we get reliable zero carbon electricity in the form of nuclear power, we really haven't fixed anything. His perspective was that any form of economic, cultural or infrastructure change inevitably leads to hardship for some people. But, that that those hardships are in this case worth it, because the alternative is extremely severe - climate change that threatens the survival of all humanity within a few generations. He did agree that we needed to be building nuclear power plants.
Waiting for someone to declare the push to elec cars is racist because POC are the ones least able to afford it.
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$2.98 at Sam's Club this afternoon
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Up to $3.33 a gallon at the Citgo near my house.
Price of oil seems to have stabilized a bit this past week, but that can change. OPEC+ is having a meeting this coming week, and I don't know if FJB intends to beg the Arabs and the Russians to produce more oil or not.
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$ 3.57 at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle.
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3.20/gal where last year it was $1.50-1.65
Jimmy Carter’s Second Term sure is grand.
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Too much.
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3.20/gal where last year it was $1.50-1.65
Barrack Obama's Third Term sure is grand.
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(https://img.patriotpost.us/01FMHW45VQG3PK6SYSAB72FG0N.jpeg)
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Look at the bright side - a molotov cocktail costs about $0.80 today, where last year, it was just $0.50...
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Filled up @ $3.12 a gallon yesterday afternoon. 20 miles down the road the same chain had it for $2.91. :mad:
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Time to revive this given what's happening with prices...
Gas at the Citgo near my house had gone up to $3.39 a gallon.
Last week it dropped to $3.29 a gallon.
Yesterday it rose to $3.35 a gallon.
Let's Go Brandon!
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$2.82 Sam's Club
Everyone else in the area are north of $3
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Local Murphy had been up to ~$3.10. Yesterday it was $2.71, today it was at $2.66.
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I hate you guys. Still $3.70ish here.
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It's 3.09 at closest station. Went to KC area today and it was 2.99. Still over 70.00 to fill the truck tank.
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$3.59/gallon at the Marysville Costco.
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Just bought 5 gallons of no E 91 octane at $3.319 for the generator
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And this morning the price at the Citgo down the street has dropped back to $3.29.
SNIFFY JOE'S DEFT ECONOMIC STEWARDSHIP HAS SAVED ME ONCE AGAIN!
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Waiting for someone to declare the push to elec cars is racist because POC are the ones least able to afford it.
Your wait is over.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2020/09/24/california-assemblyman-says-states-push-for-electric-vehicles-fuels-environmental-racism/?sh=7c57294a2b9a
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$2.82 around me.
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Your wait is over.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2020/09/24/california-assemblyman-says-states-push-for-electric-vehicles-fuels-environmental-racism/?sh=7c57294a2b9a
The guy isn't wrong. As fewer new gasoline vehicles are sold in California, that will push the price up on used gasoline vehicles.
As for the grid issues, California has already had to issues "no charge" orders for electric vehicles a number of times in the past year because the grid was so overtaxed.
Everyone in California seems to be ignoring that and there isn't, from what I can tell, any talk about expanding the grid OR power supplies. And it's not going to get better all by itself.
I can't wait to see the encroaching fall out from this in coming years as electric demand absolutely skyrockets.
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I can't wait to see the encroaching fall out from this in coming years as electric demand absolutely skyrockets.
They have only to look to Germany for a preview. Nukes are looking pretty good again, aren't they you stupid krauts?
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Local Murphy dropped their price again. It's now down to $2.61. The Brookshire's (grocery store) down the street has the same pricing.
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2.70 yesterday
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Biden's on the news right now, I guess he made an address today, touting how gasoline has dropped 10 cents nationally under his watch.
Wow... thanks, Brandon
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I just put $25 worth of the watered-down E15 stuff in my truck. $2.95 a gallon. Gee, thanks FJB
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Biden's on the news right now, I guess he made an address today, touting how gasoline has dropped 10 cents nationally under his watch.
Wow... thanks, Brandon
You ought to be thankful. He didn’t work hard to double the price of gasoline and then save you ten cents a gallon for you to be an ungrateful heel.
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$2.95 for e10.
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I'm at my friends' place in rural Virginia for the holiday. Their gas down here is running $2.999 a gallon.
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$2.95 for 87 octane at a Costco in Virginia on Saturday.
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I think we're about $3.00-3.10 here in South City - but if you're fueling, it is advised to have a hand on your firearm.
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$3.59 for 87 octane in Mesa, AZ. Plus we have to have the alcohol added version.
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$3.72 down the road here, $3.49 there at the Costco.
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Still hovering around $2.99 to $3.06 in this area.
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And there is a fire at a Houston, TX refinery. Just in time for everyone driving to grandma's house for Christmas.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/fire-exxon-refinery-baytown-texas-houston-injuries (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/fire-exxon-refinery-baytown-texas-houston-injuries)
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And there is a fire at a Houston, TX refinery. Just in time for everyone driving to grandma's house for Christmas.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/fire-exxon-refinery-baytown-texas-houston-injuries (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/fire-exxon-refinery-baytown-texas-houston-injuries)
I guess our local $2.66/gal is going to go up.
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$3.659 for 87 at Fred Meyers in Eugene, Oregon today.
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Seems I was wrong in my last post.
Murphy's down to $2.63 as of yesterday.
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Gas was at the 2.89ish mark.
I say was because over the past couple of days it’s jumped to $3.22. Thanks you dusty old fart…
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It was 2.80 when we got to Ft. Myers Fl the end of December. It is 3.49 today.
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$3.05 yesterday at a Costco in Virginia.
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I'm mostly hoping that my local U-Haul outfit has propane tomorrow. Usually the most cost-effective place locally.
And I'm gonna flip the filler a twenty when I fill my three pigs... I wanna get some workshop work done...
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$2.999 Monday. Down from $3.059 last week.
Let's go Brandon.
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2/1/2020
3.07 in hometown.
3.59 45 miles away in Las Vegas
Unleaded regular
bob
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Gas at the Global (formerly the Citgo) near my house went from $3.39, where it had been for quite some time, to $3.43 this week.
I tanked up Sunday and got it for $2.64 a gallon because of my grocery store rewards points.
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$3.60 in town, $3.39 at the Costco.
Anyways, oil has reached a seven year high of $91 a barrel. Lets go Brandon.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/oil-tops-90-7-year-high-gas-prices-aaa
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Locally gas had been around $3.06 for a couple weeks, just recently it went down to $2.99, then to $2.98 where it's been for about 5 days now.
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When I passed the Global yesterday afternoon, gas was back down to $3.39.
The Exxon station I've mentioned a number of times over the years? The one with no other stations around it on that stretch of road so... LAST GAS!!!! TANK UP OR DIE SCREAMING!
They're sitting at $3.99 for regular, and $4.79 for high test. I laugh every time I pass that station. It's a damned rare thing to see someone actually getting gas there.
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West Texas Intermediate just topped $92 a barrel.
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$2.93 for unleaded today at a small pop and mom convenience store. Near Fort Knox, Ky
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At Sam's Club
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Gas went up 20 cents a gallon overnight after Russia invaded the Ukraine. It had already gone up 30 cents over the last three weeks. We're at $3.59 on average locally.
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Just checked Gas Buddy.
Prices have spiked HARD.
All of the local stations are over $4 a gallon now except one, and it's at $3.999.
Glad that I tanked up this past weekend.
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I just got back from Costco and it was $3.39 there, and $3.62 in town. I filled up in town a few days ago and it was $3.58, so the spike hasn't hit here yet.
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I just got back from Costco and it was $3.39 there, and $3.62 in town. I filled up in town a few days ago and it was $3.58, so the spike hasn't hit here yet.
I should go fill up the truck before the prices go up. Or at least put 20 gallons in (it's pretty low. OTOH I have not been driving it)
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$3.21 at Louisville Sam's
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At Sam's Club
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Stickers are still there :rofl:
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Low test at Murphy's is at $3.15 today. It was $3.06 two days ago. $3.19 at a couple other stations.
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I'm not sure what was going on with Gas Buddy yesterday. It showed prices had spiked to well over $4 a gallon all over Northern Virginia.
When I went home last night prices at all of the local stations were... completely unchanged from what they had been earlier in the week. $3.45 to $3.65 range depending on the station and location.
Gas Buddy is STILL showing prices over $4 a gallon, including at the Global station down the street from me (used to be the Citgo). Price on the sign when I passed it less than an hour ago was $3.49 a gallon.
Prices are also showing over $4 a gallon in Mathews, Virginia, where Castle Key lives, and that really makes me wonder if someone isn't attacking Gas Buddy's pricing information. The price in Mathews is always 40 to 50 cents less than here in Northern Virginia.
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Prices are also showing over $4 a gallon in Mathews, Virginia, where Castle Key lives, and that really makes me wonder if someone isn't attacking Gas Buddy's pricing information. The price in Mathews is always 40 to 50 cents less than here in Northern Virginia.
Could very well be. Gasbuddy prices here match my reporting. Manipulation is always an issue with crowdsourcing though.
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Up 10 cents today to 3.39
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Gas went up 20 cents a gallon overnight after Russia invaded the Ukraine. It had already gone up 30 cents over the last three weeks. We're at $3.59 on average locally.
Overnight - yeah. The stuff in their storage tanks suddenly cost them more. Instant price hike. But once oil prices go back down, it will take 8 weeks for the cost at the pump to go down due to the length of the supply chain.
This kind of crap has been going on since the '70s.
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$3.20 per gallon yesterday.
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$3.90 in central IL. Chepeast I've seen in a month was $3.65.
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$4.19 for 91 no E
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OK, after 2 or 3 days, the prices being reported on Gas Buddy for my area of Northern Virginia are once again matching what the station signs are actually showing.
Still not sure what that was about, but I did notice the same user names reporting the higher prices for multiple stations.
Prices have gone up 5 to 10 cents a gallon over the past few days, though, but nothing near approaching the $4+ prices that were being reported in the wake of Donald Trump's invasion of Ukraine. Thank God we have Brandon in charge!
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FWIW, my gas expenses:
2021 Jan $209.11 Feb $97.16
2022 Jan $209.57 Feb $160.69
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$3.29 pretty much everywhere in my part of NE Oklahoma.
Thanks Joe, you feckless piece of *expletive deleted*it.
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In the last 2 weeks, prices here have gone up $.60/gal., from $3.399 to $3.999 for most stations. A few are still at $3.699 or $3.799 but most are higher. This is in SW IL-ANNOY near St. Louis, where we have to use that "special gas" during the summer. [barf]
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I had been paying $3.299 at BJ's for several weeks. I filled up Thursday at the same BJ's and it was up to $3.409. Other stations along my commute are charging $3.899.
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Gas actually came down a little here at many stations
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$3.47 in rural Ky today.
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$3.69 here in Kansas City. Highest I think I've ever seen it.
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It's starting to spike here in DC metro.
Sunoco near my house is up to $3.69.
Exxon a few miles down the road (one on either side of the road, oddly enough) and the shell across the street are up to $3.85 this morning.
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Headed up to $3.69. Was holding at 3.49 for a few days.
But ya know opening up US production will have no effect on lowering prices. Said by the same people who believe presidential policy has no effect on prices.
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$3.49 at the Costco, $3.69 in town. We seem to not be going up as quickly as other areas of the country.
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They want high gas prices:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/03/this-is-a-transition-bidens-energy-secretary-jennifer-granholm-basically-tells-americans-to-suck-it-up-over-high-gas-prices-watch/
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They want high gas prices:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/03/this-is-a-transition-bidens-energy-secretary-jennifer-granholm-basically-tells-americans-to-suck-it-up-over-high-gas-prices-watch/
They want high gas prices:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/03/this-is-a-transition-bidens-energy-secretary-jennifer-granholm-basically-tells-americans-to-suck-it-up-over-high-gas-prices-watch/
Of course they want high gas prices. I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Dems want to punish America for proving to St. Barak the First of his Name that yes, you CAN drill your way to lower prices.
This is going to provide another huge shot in the arm for Republicans in the upcoming elections--if they're smart enough to use it the way it should be used.
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^
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This is going to provide another huge shot in the arm for Republicans in the upcoming elections--if they're smart enough to use it the way it should be used.
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:rofl:
Oh, wait, wait...you are joking... right?
Terry, 230RN
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Monday I paid $3.35 for regular. I suspect it has gone up since then.
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3.85 for 89 Octane here yesterday, I think the 87 was 3.65. I would imagine it is 4.00+ over the hill in Las Vegas.
bob
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$3.49 at the Costco, $3.69 in town. We seem to not be going up as quickly as other areas of the country.
Holy crap. An hour after I posted that I drove to Boise. Two hours later, I'm driving back home and all the rural stations on my route just jumped from $3.69 to $3.76.
Let's go Brandon.
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Holy crap. An hour after I posted that I drove to Boise. Two hours later, I'm driving back home and all the rural stations on my route just jumped from $3.69 to $3.76.
Let's go Brandon.
If only we had more windmills
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Don't worry, uncle pete says we can buy oil from Iran.
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Don't worry, uncle pete says we can buy oil from Iran.
Pete would be wise to not take the ayatollah up on a penthouse suite, if such a thing were to be offered.
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Look, he's flying...
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Now $3.85 here in SW Ohio
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San Francisco is the first major metro to break $5/gal.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/first-us-city-breaches-5-a-gallon
Also I see that Brandon is pretty much draining the strategic reserve dry to bring gas down a couple of cents for a couple of weeks. Somehow they'll manage to blame Trump for an empty reserve.
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$3.59 in my little town today according to the Mrs.
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Kimball, Tn. Shell Station. 3.99.9
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I see the lefties have distributed a new talking point for their politicians and the MSM: Buy oil from Iran.
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Next will be rebuild Venezuela and buy their oil. We can't drill here anymore, that's not green. Idiots.
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I had to fill both cars today. It came in at $4.09 for plus in the Grand Cherokee, and $4.35 for super in the Challenger. $110 gone, and they both had about half a tank… I miss mean tweets.
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$3.399 for E-15. $56 fillup.
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Several stations around me have jumped like mad.
Shell is $3.79.
Sunoco across the street from it is $3.89.
The Global (used to be the Citgo) around the corner is $3.69.
I'm expecting all of those prices to have gone up by the time I get home from work this afternoon.
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Up 30 cents overnight to 3.73
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My prediction?
By the time this finally starts to back the hell off, we're going to be paying over $5 a gallon for gasoline.
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Can't trust Gas Buddy
They showed a Circle K station near me at $3.32.
I get there and it's $3.99.
Before pumping the gas I enter into GB it's3.99.
After pumping the gas GB shows it at 3.32 again.
I enter 3.99 again.
An hour later GB is showing 3.32 again.
I think the station is changing it to lure people there.
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Oh, and everyone here jumped to $3.99 and up as of yesterday afternoon. A jump of 50-60 cents in one day. :facepalm:
Except for Sam's and Costco. Sam's was $3.44 but when I got there there was a line going down the road.
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My prediction?
By the time this finally starts to back the hell off, we're going to be paying over $5 a gallon for gasoline.
Unfortunately, that sounds like a reasonable prediction.
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$3.229 for e15 in Story City, IA
I'm 102,626 miles of running every tank of E15 fuel and I average 32mpg in a 2018 Ford Fusion.
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And $3.86 in town this morning. If the last few days are an indication, we should be over $4 here by Tuesday.
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Most stations in this area of IL-ANNOY have now gone to $4.199!! [barf]
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WTI up $8.15 a barrel today, now sitting above $115 a barrel.
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I’m going to ask on Monday at work if we can go to 4 10s to cut a day of driving out.
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Someone ask Biden how to fit a windmill on a car
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Sunoco station is at $3.99.
Up 40 cents in the last 3 days.
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(https://i.imgur.com/N8jGM25.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c77JgJcrO9s
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Seemed pretty consistent down I-75 from Cincinnati to Atlanta at around $3.69. Will be in Florida tomorrow and see if things go up.
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My prediction?
By the time this finally starts to back the hell off, we're going to be paying over $5 a gallon for gasoline.
Five dollars? That's cute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM-1hbBVEAA9IlR?format=jpg&name=small)
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Five dollars? That's cute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM-1hbBVEAA9IlR?format=jpg&name=small)
Yeah, for APS members in the REAL world, not those in the worker's paradise that is California.
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Yeah, for APS members in the REAL world, not those in the worker's paradise that is California.
And they'll keep jacking the taxes up, writing new expensive to impediment regs, and ban new drilling until the oil companies learn their lesson to not hurt the working man/woman/trans/it/they/them/something/dog/cat/Speckled 12 leg spider..........
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I filled my gas cans with non-ethanol this morning for $4.04 a gallon, I also filled a can with diesel for $3.99 a gallon.
I always run a few gallons from the shared hose into the truck to clear ethanol so I bought a total of 25 gallons of fuel and spent just a little over $100 dollars.
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Sunoco near my house is now up to $4.19 a gallon. It went up 60 cents in I think 4 days.
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Double holy hell. I just got back from picking up a burger in town. $3.86 yesterday. $4.16 today. I'm glad I filled up yesterday.
*expletive deleted*ck you, Brandon!
Edit: Interesting - I was just looking at Gasbuddy and the Costco closest to me, one hour ago was at $3.68. Another Costco maybe 10 miles from that one, 36 minutes ago was at $3.78. I would assume that Costcos that close to each other would have the same pricing, so this is all changing very rapidly.
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I bought 5 gallons of diesel this morning for $3.99, this afternoon it's $4.29.
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When I arrived at work this morning, the local Murphy station was selling e10 for $3.56. When I left this evening, the price was $3.79.
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I'll be driving from Minnesota to Texas next week. I expect gas prices to be about $4 a gallon on the way down, and almost $5 when I come back a week and a half later. I'll be driving the Ford Focus rather than the pickup. (Wife actually thought we could get rid of the Focus when I got the truck) :facepalm:
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I just fueled at a South City Quik Trip - $3.59 for 87 octane.
And... My pump had a partially-peeled off "I did this!" sticker on it. Neighborhood has a LOT of progressives, so I thought that was interesting.
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(https://i.imgur.com/N8jGM25.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c77JgJcrO9s
It's getting close to costing me an hour of wages for the round trip to work.
I'm betting the price on gas-sipping cars and motorcycles will escalate even faster than they have been.
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3.16 on the 25th. 3.29 on the 1st. 3,59 today.
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Cost us $188 in fuel yesterday to drive from Dayton Ohio to Orlando in my daughters Chevy Equinox that gets ~32 mpg….
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Doubling fuel prices hits the poor hardest... If you go from spending $40/week on fuel to $80/week on fuel, but you're not making more, and you were already living paycheck to paycheck...
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Well the poor can just buy electric cars and their fuel expense problems will be over! See, we don't need fossil fuels! -- Every hard left Democrat ever.
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I just heard on the newz that we are expected to pass the all time national high by tomorrow. That is $4.11, which we hit ~11 years ago. I forget - who was in charge the last time we broke this record? ;/
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Politics does not trump physics... I asked one of the progressive folks a week or so ago about what they thought would happen if everyone got home from work at about 5-6 o'clock, and plugged their cars in to charge... Got a blank look...
This neighborhood, most of the houses have garages, so I figure that a lot of people think that the can install their own charging stations... But... The on-street parking is also usually mostly full.
Now, I've planned routes with fuel stops (sticking with one truck-stop chain has its benefits)... But some of these folks are going to end up sitting by the side of the road somewhere, miles and miles and miles from the nearest charger...
Solar is basically a way to visually virtue signal - And I don't see a lot of that here, which sort of surprises me.
"But electricity just comes out of the wall!"
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Brandon has emptied another 30 million barrels from the Strategic Reserve. A little over a day's worth of oil in normal times when everyone is driving, from a reserve that is supposed to be used for critical transport in critical times. And we are fast approaching possible critical time.
And the MSM is making him a hero for doing it.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/06/derp-biden-admin-really-thinks-well-believe-theyre-combatting-rising-fuel-prices-by-releasing-30m-barrels-of-crude-oil-from-our-reserve/
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Politics does not trump physics... I asked one of the progressive folks a week or so ago about what they thought would happen if everyone got home from work at about 5-6 o'clock, and plugged their cars in to charge... Got a blank look...
This neighborhood, most of the houses have garages, so I figure that a lot of people think that the can install their own charging stations... But... The on-street parking is also usually mostly full.
Now, I've planned routes with fuel stops (sticking with one truck-stop chain has its benefits)... But some of these folks are going to end up sitting by the side of the road somewhere, miles and miles and miles from the nearest charger...
Solar is basically a way to visually virtue signal - And I don't see a lot of that here, which sort of surprises me.
"But electricity just comes out of the wall!"
I like to ask what about apartment and condo complexes? You going to put a charging station in every parking spot? Yeah, that's going to be an installation and maintenance nightmare.
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Somehow my newsfeed is always popping up articles about public charging stations, including reddit and other "forum" conversations. While the few public charging stations I see in my region are empty more often than not, apparently in urban areas the lack of them is already an issue.
I guess there are ecar drivers who will pull up to a charging station, plug in, then take off for hours to eat lunch or shop or whatever. There are ongoing debates on if it's acceptable to unplug someone else's car to charge yours if the other car's owner has disappeared. I don't know if there is some way to look at the charging station to see if the other guy's car is fully charged or not.
Seems like if you want to prevent people from taking off after they plugged their car in, you'd need fast chargers that are 5min or under, and that may not even be possible. If charging takes 15min or more, there are simply always going to be people who take off and do other stuff for an hour because they don't want to stand there for 15 minutes or more. Maybe an app that alerts you when your car is charged, but then you have to count on the person being polite enough to immediately return.
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I like to ask what about apartment and condo complexes? You going to put a charging station in every parking spot? Yeah, that's going to be an installation and maintenance nightmare.
This is a big issue. We rent, and can’t even get get the development to fix a section of sidewalk they tore up 2 years ago to fix a leaking water line. This is despite them raising everyone’s rent by $105/ month last year, and likely at least that much again this year. There’s no way they’ll spend the money to put in chargers for 300 apartments. Super here is up 30 cents in two days to $4.65.
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Went by a station on my way home from Lowe's this afternoon with a posted price for unleaded regular of $4.379. On Friday on the way home from work I saw two stations at $4.099 and I thought that was bad.
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$3.79 for regular unleaded, $4.39 for diesel.
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$3.79 around these parts. Up another 20 cents from the last time I posted on 2/24.
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Yesterday E88 was at $3.54 in the morning when we topped off, and at 3.79 later in the afternoon.
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$ 4.19/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$4.20 in town today.
I'm usually very lackadaisical about the "don't let it get under 1/2 tank" rule when I'm just driving locally, but I'm going to start keeping the tanks full, not just because of the rapidly increasing prices, but because we could very well be heading back to the gas lines and "only on certain days" that I remember from my youth.
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I've got rewards points at my local grocery store that give me $1.10 off a gallon of gasoline (up to 20 gallons).
I think the max that I can use in one transaction is $1.50 a gallon off, but the way prices are rising it might just even out to what it was a week ago.
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Most stations in this area of IL-ANNOY have now gone to $4.199!! [barf]
That didn't last very long. Three stations I passed today have gone up to $4.599 !! :mad: >:D [barf]
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Me thinks they're more worried than we are
Rejection of Russian oil would be 'catastrophic' - Russia
Western leaders, like British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, are pushing for less dependency on Russia's oil supplies across Europe.
In response, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak says that replacing Russian oil deliveries to Europe would take more than a year.
Novak says a ban on Russian oil would lead to "catastrophic consequences" for the global market and could push prices to over $300 per barrel.
For comparison, that's more than double current prices. After peaking at $139.13 a barrel early on Monday, the price of Brent crude - an international benchmark - fell back to around $125.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60635927
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The should be worried. Oil and gas are pretty much the only true "crops" the Russians have. With them being increasingly isolated from the world's financial mechanisms embargoing their oil and possibly gas would be absolutely catastrophic to their economy.
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(https://i.imgur.com/PeLDbXu.jpg)
Even better, Brandon's Department of Energy said once again today that increasing US oil and gas production is not, and will not be, considered.
Damn it, I saw the headline earlier today and now I can't find it again.
I wonder how soon Brandon will come up with an fuel assistance program for the poor to help them pay their gasoline bills?
Oh, wait, he'll just give them electric cars. That will solve the problem.
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3.99 this am, 4.09 on the way home.
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Somehow my newsfeed is always popping up articles about public charging stations, including reddit and other "forum" conversations. While the few public charging stations I see in my region are empty more often than not, apparently in urban areas the lack of them is already an issue.
I guess there are ecar drivers who will pull up to a charging station, plug in, then take off for hours to eat lunch or shop or whatever. There are ongoing debates on if it's acceptable to unplug someone else's car to charge yours if the other car's owner has disappeared. I don't know if there is some way to look at the charging station to see if the other guy's car is fully charged or not.
Seems like if you want to prevent people from taking off after they plugged their car in, you'd need fast chargers that are 5min or under, and that may not even be possible. If charging takes 15min or more, there are simply always going to be people who take off and do other stuff for an hour because they don't want to stand there for 15 minutes or more. Maybe an app that alerts you when your car is charged, but then you have to count on the person being polite enough to immediately return.
A sensible way to solve the problem would be related to the auto-fill feature on gas pumps, how the pump shuts off once the fuel level is high enough.
For electric charging, negotiation between the car and charge terminal tells the terminal when charging is complete. The terminal has an electronic latch, and visual lock indicator, that can be disconnected by the car user or a charge terminal technician by authenticating appropriately (unlocking the car would be a simple way for the user to do this). But the latch stops anyone else from disconnecting the car while it is charging. And since charge speed decreases the closer you get to 100% charge, perhaps either the car owner or the terminal owner sets parameters for how close to 100% the car gets to charged before unlock happens. Busy times and all terminals are under high demand? Maybe you only get 80% charge. Low demand lazy afternoon? Go ahead and sit and charge to 100%.
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Gas Buddy keeps timing out
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Even better, Brandon's Department of Energy said once again today that increasing US oil and gas production is not, and will not be, considered.
Damn it, I saw the headline earlier today and now I can't find it again.
I wonder how soon Brandon will come up with an fuel assistance program for the poor to help them pay their gasoline bills?
Oh, wait, he'll just give them electric cars. That will solve the problem.
CNN is already blaming no increase in production on the oil companies, not the administration that is doing everything it can to interfere.
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last week 3.43 a gallon, yesterday 4.25 ... at the cheapest place for miles and miles. - most places are around 5 a gallon
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SW Minnesota:
Friday, 04 MAR, gas was $3.49 and Diesel $4.09.
Today, Monday, 07 MAR, $3.99 and $4.68, respectively.
Jon
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Apparently Peppermint Patty got really snippy with a reporter yesterday when she was asked about increasing oil production. Not sure what the question was, but I'm sure it was pretty innocuous.
Were I a reporter, my first and only question would be "How will the administration, and you, deflect blame to Donald Trump when people freeze to death this coming winter because they're too poor to afford heating oil?"
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Apparently Peppermint Patty got really snippy with a reporter yesterday when she was asked about increasing oil production. Not sure what the question was, but I'm sure it was pretty innocuous.
She was blaming the oil producers, saying that there are 9000 gov approved leases and the oil companies are dropping the ball. What she failed to say, either through ignorance or lying, is that those leases are only approved for exploration. It can take years to explore a lease to find enough oil to produce. Then you have to go through the gov to get production drilling permits, which can take years longer, especially when enviros sue for additional environmental impact statements.
If we wanted producing oil from many of those leases, exploration should have started years ago, with some guarantee to the oil producers that they wouldn't be Keystoned in the middle of lease development.
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Gas around here went from $3.99 on my way home last night to $4.19 on the way to work this morning.
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US expected to ban imports of Russian oil
US President Joe Biden is expected to announce a ban on US imports of Russian oil later today.
The announcement is expected to come as the latest sanction in response to Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.
The White House said Biden is set to speak at 15:45 GMT to "announce actions to continue to hold Russia accountable for its unprovoked and unjustified war on Ukraine" .
Biden's administration has been under increasing pressure from US lawmakers to take this step.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60657155
Now my question is. How much of this has already been factored in before hand in current prices?
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The Commies.... er Russians... and now threatening to shut down all gas supply to Europe if an embargo on Russian oil is carried out.
US is probably going to embargo Russian oil this afternoon.
Oil is up almost $10 a barrel right now.
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$3.79 around these parts. Up another 20 cents from the last time I posted on 2/24.
$4.19 for regular UL today. $4.99 for diesel. Biden is doing a fine job. :facepalm:
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Apparently Peppermint Patty got really snippy with a reporter yesterday when she was asked about increasing oil production. Not sure what the question was, but I'm sure it was pretty innocuous.
Were I a reporter, my first and only question would be "How will the administration, and you, deflect blame to Donald Trump when people freeze to death this coming winter because they're too poor to afford heating oil?"
I hate that bitch more than Pelosi.
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When crude oil prices go down, the oil companies say you don't see price reductions at the pump for around 8 weeks since that's roughly the length of time it takes the product to go through the supply chain.
When crude oil prices go up, the price at the pump goes up immediately - sometimes only a few days, but other times, just a few hours. Amazing supply chain, that.
Or - AS USUAL - we're being lied to.
Blatantly.
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When crude oil prices go down, the oil companies say you don't see price reductions at the pump for around 8 weeks since that's roughly the length of time it takes the product to go through the supply chain.
When crude oil prices go up, the price at the pump goes up immediately - sometimes only a few days, but other times, just a few hours. Amazing supply chain, that.
Or - AS USUAL - we're being lied to.
Blatantly.
It's even worst than that
As we reported a short while ago, the US is suspending its imports of Russian oil and gas. Here's what that means:
New contracts to purchase Russian crude oil and certain petroleum products, liquefied natural gas (LNG) and coal will be banned effective immediately.
Existing contracts must wind down within 45 days.
Still have 45 days before the tap is shut off but the price goes up NOW
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It's even worst than that
Still have 45 days before the tap is shut off but the price goes up NOW
Probably a coincidence but ... isn't that exactly what happened with Russian ammunition? Existing contracts were allowed to be fulfilled, but the prices went up immediately, as if the flow from Mother Roosha had stopped overnight.
Capitalism at work, a.k.a. "the law of supply and demand" (as in, gouge the consumer any way you can, using whatever flimsy excuse sounds good at the moment).
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Probably a coincidence but ... isn't that exactly what happened with Russian ammunition? Existing contracts were allowed to be fulfilled, but the prices went up immediately, as if the flow from Mother Roosha had stopped overnight.
Capitalism at work, a.k.a. "the law of supply and demand" (as in, gouge the consumer any way you can, using whatever flimsy excuse sounds good at the moment).
Actually the price hadn't gone up. At least it hadn't when I last checked before Putin put the Chicken Kiev in the oven.
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Okay just checked
I seem to recall Wolf 7.62x39 being ~$350 1k which was roughly the price before the "ban".
With the Chicken Kiev in the oven it's gone up to $380-$400
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$4.25 NW Indiana
If we all just park our cars and trucks for two weeks we can flatten the curve!
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$4.25 NW Indiana
If we all just park our cars and trucks for two weeks we can flatten the curve!
I put a mask on my car
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I put a mask on my car
I had a car bra on a couple of my cars back in the late 80's early 90's.
It didn't keep bugs out of the radiator any more effectively than masks... oh never mind...
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I had a car bra on a couple of my cars back in the late 80's early 90's.
It didn't keep bugs out of the radiator any more effectively than masks... oh never mind...
I love how when people took them off they often discovered the paint underneath was now a different color shade from the rest of the car.
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So what's everone paying for gasoline?
Are you looking for daily, twice daily or hourly updates to the rising prices? ;)
bob
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quote]So what's everone paying for gasoline?
Are you looking for daily, twice daily or hourly updates to the rising prices? ;)
bob
No kidding. Watching Gas Buddy is getting to be more entertaining than watching Youtube.
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I love how when people took them off they often discovered the paint underneath was now a different color shade from the rest of the car.
I only used mine on the long road trips. Even with that there were spots that had to be polished out.
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$3.80 per gallon down here on the Gulf Coast this afternoon.
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I saw an Instagram comment: "If everyone just doesn't drive for two weeks, we can flatten the curve!"
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4.18 for regular here in Shreveport, LA
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$4.50 for regular at Fred Meyers middle of Oregon.
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Prices have stabilized the last few days in Northern Virginia, it seems.
Crude is dropping, down $4 a barrel, and DOW futures are up 500 points.
For now.
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Well here's your solution to high gas prices
https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/1501387584877989898
And people thought I was kidding when I brought up the subject of windmills on cars.
Yes Virginia, they are that stupid.
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Biden’s Deputy National Security Advisor Daleep Singh: "Even if we drilled as much as we could" it wouldn't affect the price of oil pic.twitter.com/AHOmiyfWLl
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) March 9, 2022
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/03/09/biden-econ-advisers-claim-about-domestic-drilling-gas-prices-overheats-bs-detectors/
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https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/03/09/biden-econ-advisers-claim-about-domestic-drilling-gas-prices-overheats-bs-detectors/
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Maybe he should go ask Biden why he was begging OPEC to up production after his policies sent to futures market into overdrive.
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I just did a top off. Pretty much every pump at the station had the sticker. :rofl:
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I read that the Biden administration saw how well shutting down pipelines hobbled our economy so they decided they had to get Nord Stream shut down to hobble Russia's economy as well =D
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$4.09 in Lubbock as of this morning. It was 3.39 two weeks ago.
RBOB spot is down 42 cents from yesterday, $3.31 vs $3.73. Maybe the market is settling a little.
I can usually take RBOB spot, add 15% for retailer margin, then tack on 38.6 cents in tax and that'll be within a nickel or so of local pump price in 3-5 days. I say usually because that's when prices are more or less stable with a couple percent daily fluctuation or some general gentle trend. When spot swings are this nuts, all bets are off.
Brad
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White House is getting desperate over oil prices, gas prices and inflation.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-blames-russia-record-high-gas-prices
WH is also saying it will do everything it can to shield Americans from pain at the pump.
But does that include actively encouraging more US production?
WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF RACIST SHITLORD WHO HATES AMERICAN BROWN AND BLACK PEOPLE OF COLOR AND WHO WANTS TO SEE THE WORLD BURN AND DROWN AT THE SAME TIME?
I wonder whom the White House is going to blame when poor Americans freeze to death this coming winter because they can't afford to heat their homes?
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But does that include actively encouraging more US production?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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But does that include actively encouraging more US production?
Actually...
Hurry up and open the spigot and get us out of the mess we made, you stupid US oil companies!!!!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/03/09/energy-secretary-granholm-implores-oil-industry-to-ramp-up-output-because-were-on-a-war-footing/
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Actually...
Hurry up and open the spigot and get us out of the mess we made, you stupid US oil companies!!!!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/03/09/energy-secretary-granholm-implores-oil-industry-to-ramp-up-output-because-were-on-a-war-footing/
Oh yeah, I know about that....
News flash -- Jennifer Granholm has been fired as US Secretary of Energy...
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Oil down to $110
Oil prices plunge as UAE supports supply boost
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60680787
So maybe we'll see gas come down a nickel in 2-3 months.
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News flash -- Jennifer Granholm has been fired as US Secretary of Energy...
From your mouth to God's ears. But Brandon would replace her with someone just as clueless.
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Just goes to prove that Brandon is a racist who is more than willing to perpetuate fossil fuel violence against brown people, as long as they're not OUR brown people.
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$4.40 for regular here in Minneola Florida, just NW of Orlando today.
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Diesel is $5.19 a gallon and on its way to almost $6 at some of the stations around here. Gas is $4+.
And this is at one of the cheapest states in the nation.
But Hollyweird elite are busy telling us we should be grateful to be able to make the sacrifice of paying more.
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Diesel is $5.19 a gallon and on its way to almost $6 at some of the stations around here. Gas is $4+.
And this is at one of the cheapest states in the nation.
But Hollyweird elite are busy telling us we should be grateful to be able to make the sacrifice of paying more.
Don't you love how people who make 50 million in a year by looking pretty tell us that inflation and gas prices are not a problem.
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The wife put $33 in our little SUV today. Yesterday, it had a half a tank. It only holds 12 gallons...
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I wonder whom the White House is going to blame when poor Americans freeze to death this coming winter because they can't afford to heat their homes?
Probably start with Trump and the NRA then move on to white nationalists and militias.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/amish-man-smiles-smugly-as-he-rides-by-gas-station-with-6-prices
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Got gas last night.
Pump price was $4.349 a gallon.
I had $1.20 a gallon off due to grocery store card rewards.
A bit over 13 gallons at $3.149 a gallon.... my first ever $40+ fill up.
Thank God a tank of gas lasts me 3 to 4 weeks these days given that I live so close to the office.
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I could swear that during the Obama gas debacle, gas taxes were suspended for a while. Am I misremembering? Or maybe it was just CA that did it and not the feds?
I notice they have not been on the table at the fed level, though I saw CA (who I think currently has the highest gas taxes in the country) is talking about a "tax rebate" or something.
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$50 to fill up a Ford Fusion from a little below a 1/4 tank. I know there is absolutely nothing I can do about the price of fuel, but I was shocked when I saw the price when the pump kicked off.
I'm also curious if high prices of fuel will change people's driving habbits. I know in my truck that even driving 70 mph vs 75 mph will gain me an extra 1 mpg.
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I could swear that during the Obama gas debacle, gas taxes were suspended for a while. Am I misremembering? Or maybe it was just CA that did it and not the feds?
I notice they have not been on the table at the fed level, though I saw CA (who I think currently has the highest gas taxes in the country) is talking about a "tax rebate" or something.
I'm sure at least a dem or two will propose jacking the tax UP to punish the oil companies.
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I just got back from Costco. I didn't need gas today, but it looks like we're riding into the situation where I'll be deciding if it's worth 20min to wait in line to save 20 cents/gal on gas, or to pay the "going rate" elsewhere to get in and out. Because the lines were pretty dang long. Last time this happened I did not have the patience for it. :laugh:
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I just got back from Costco. I didn't need gas today, but it looks like we're riding into the situation where I'll be deciding if it's worth 20min to wait in line to save 20 cents/gal on gas, or to pay the "going rate" elsewhere to get in and out. Because the lines were pretty dang long. Last time this happened I did not have the patience for it. :laugh:
Ran into that at Sam's where there was a line going down the road to the pumps.
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Just buy an electric car, you stupid hillabilly subjects!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501709925168431111
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Just buy an electric car, you stupid hillabilly subjects!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501709925168431111
Free 1,000ft elec cords for everyone who lives in an apartment or has to park on the street?
Oh, and while you're at it put every fire house on emergency stand by for when the wires start melting.
The absolute smugness with the way she said that makes me want to punch her in the face.
A Let them eat cake moment
Idiots
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These people are running the country straight into the ground and blaming you the whole way
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Just hit $4 at a St. Louis Quik Trip yesterday.
The electric trike I'm thinking of could get "fueled" with a regular 12 gauge cord... But...
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Nice song and dance there, Patty.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501987767487803402
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Nice song and dance there, Patty.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501987767487803402
Notice the little smirk she gets on her face? I think she actually enjoys this.
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$3.79
Let's go Brandon.
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Another good one:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1501693602124255237
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Progressives are on fire this week with just absolutely great ideas for getting around high gas prices.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/03/10/retired-huffpost-writer-has-several-solutions-to-high-gas-prices-including-moving-closer-to-work-and-getting-solar/
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I am now trying to work from home as much as possible, and only go into the office one day per week. One round trip to the office is about 2.5 gallons.
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Reg unl is $4.00 near the Bozeman airport. Diesel is $4.80.
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4.25 here in W. Michigan
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At current local prices, $3.79, I would be spending just over $100 a week just commute to my former job.
#FJB
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I bought gas on the way home from work today. $4.199 for unleaded regular at BJ's discount club. I'm pretty sure this is the first time in my life that I've spent more than $50 at a single gas stop -- and I only took 13.5 gallons.
Drove by an Exxon station on the way home with a posted price of $4.699.
Prices in this state have never been higher.
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We drove through Tyler & Jacksonville TX yesterday. Prices were pretty much the same everywhere at ~$3.79 for regular. Filled up her car @$3.79.
Same station this morning? $3.99. I really should have filled the truck Monday instead of waiting until today....
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We are driving back from Orlando Satand I’m sure we’ll spend more than the $188 we spent on the way down last Saturday.
Leaving Ohio and driving down to Panama City Florida in 2 weeks for nieces wedding. From there we’re driving to Tucson Arizona for my sons wedding the weekend after then back to Ohio. Pretty sure I’ll spend we’ll over $500 for gas on that trip.
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AP: It's not Biden's fault
High gas prices falsely attributed to a shutdown of US oil production
https://www.wave3.com/2022/03/11/high-gas-prices-falsely-attributed-shutdown-us-oil-production/
Gas prices are rising for several reasons, including higher demand after the easing of pandemic restrictions, experts said.
Uhhh, what were gas prices before the pandemic restrictions?
and of course they blame Putin
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Uhhh, what were gas prices before the pandemic restrictions?
I'd say there is likely something to the argument that two years of pent up demand for travel especially in areas that were tightly locked down is at least partially responsible for increased gasoline demand and therefore higher pricing.
Obviously, making it more difficult to produce oil domestically, or import from Canada also impacts things on the supply side, especially when you're going toe to toe with a major petrostate.
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I'd say there is likely something to the argument that two years of pent up demand for travel especially in areas that were tightly locked down is at least partially responsible for increased gasoline demand and therefore higher pricing.
I'll except that
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Someone thinks it's easier to buy a Tesla than vote.
Anyone remember paying $80,000 to vote?
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/11/dude-wat-green-living-guy-makes-a-tool-of-himself-claiming-its-easier-to-buy-a-new-tesla-than-it-is-to-vote-and-lol/
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I'll except that.
Accept that explanation, or except, as in disagreeing?
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I see a LOT of people who have "non-driver" ID...
And they are driving anyway.
They can get the ID, but taking the test is too hard...
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"I'd say there is likely something to the argument that two years of pent up demand for travel especially in areas that were tightly locked down is at least partially responsible for increased gasoline demand and therefore higher pricing."
There certainly is.
But there's also a lot to be said for the fact that during the Campaign the entire Democratic party and all if its dozens of candidates kept going out of their way to declare war on fossil fuels, a stance that Brandon institutionalized on his very first day in office and has continued to do so.
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I'd say there is likely something to the argument that two years of pent up demand for travel especially in areas that were tightly locked down is at least partially responsible for increased gasoline demand and therefore higher pricing.
Not really. It's the end of the winter heating season, so this is when refineries typically switch over a lot of their production from heating oil to gasoline. I don't know anyone who is suddenly driving more or farther to release "pent up" desires to travel.
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Not really. It's the end of the winter heating season, so this is when refineries typically switch over a lot of their production from heating oil to gasoline. I don't know anyone who is suddenly driving more or farther to release "pent up" desires to travel.
Oh, well if you don’t know anyone like that then I’m sure they don’t exist. It was a good theory until you provided the counterfactual.
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4.59 in Mesa AZ this afternoon
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Crude oil is falling HARD today.
WTI is down almost $7.20 a barrel and is flirting with $102.
Wholesale gasoline is also down today, currently off 15 cents a gallon.
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So gas at the pump will be fall from $4.25 to $4.23 by June?
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So gas at the pump will be fall from $4.25 to $4.23 by June?
No, it will go up another 25 to 30 cents because we're just about ready to change the more expensive winter gasoline over to the more expensive summer blend gasoline.
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No, it will go up another 25 to 30 cents because we're just about ready to change the more expensive winter gasoline over to the more expensive summer blend gasoline.
Yeah, *expletive deleted*ck
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I started calling the the summer "reformulated" blend the Greta blend. Costs more, makes your gas mileage drop, car runs like *expletive deleted*it, while really doing nothing to help the environment.
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Hum....
WTI is now seriously looking like it's going to drop back below $100 a barrel.
This is apparently on word of Ukraine/Russia talks and the Kung Flu re-emerging in China.
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$100.8 right now
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I started calling the the summer "reformulated" blend the Greta blend. Costs more, makes your gas mileage drop, car runs like *expletive deleted*it, while really doing nothing to help the environment.
I'll disagree with the last part.
Summer blend gasolines have had a marked positive effect on summer air quality in the Washington DC metro area over the last 20+ years.
When I first moved down here it wasn't unusual to have half or more of our summer days hitting poor air quality levels.
Since the adoption of summer blend gasolines the number of poor air quality days is rarely above single digits.
You can also see the better air quality in that there's no longer a smog haze sitting over DC in the summer.
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I'll disagree with the last part.
Summer blend gasolines have had a marked positive effect on summer air quality in the Washington DC metro area over the last 20+ years.
When I first moved down here it wasn't unusual to have half or more of our summer days hitting poor air quality levels.
Since the adoption of summer blend gasolines the number of poor air quality days is rarely above single digits.
You can also see the better air quality in that there's no longer a smog haze sitting over DC in the summer.
I'm on the fence on that since I wonder how much of that is due to tighter and more effective emission controls on newer cars. Also cars in the past 20 years have gotten far more efficient which means less gas burnt for a given number of miles. Like I say I'm not sure.
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"I'm on the fence on that since I wonder how much of that is due to tighter and more effective emission controls on newer cars."
All of it contributes.
There are still one hell of a lot of the older, less efficient cars on the road, and the summer blend gasoline has a big effect on their emissions.
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Stop you belly aching gas has only gone up 22% in the past two weeks
By my math gas has gone up 46% here
Average US gas price rises 22% in two weeks to record $4.43
https://www.wave3.com/2022/03/13/average-us-gas-price-spikes-79-cents-over-2-weeks-443/
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Gas in Florida leaving Saturday was $4.39 on average. Closer we got to Ohio the cheaper it was and ended around $3.99 near home.
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Cheapest gas I found over the weekend was $3.679 at Olds, Iowa on the Avenue of the Saints.
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Holding Steady at $4.29 here in Tampa. My Wife's Alfa takes high test, she said that was $5.09 this morning.
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$101.7
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Wrong direction!
102.9
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$3.75 in Tulsa.
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$4.44 in town. I was gonna gas up when I was getting my tires rotated at Costco today, but the line was way too long, so I don't know their (cheapest place around) current price.
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I'm on the fence on that since I wonder how much of that is due to tighter and more effective emission controls on newer cars. Also cars in the past 20 years have gotten far more efficient which means less gas burnt for a given number of miles. Like I say I'm not sure.
I question this.
There were a lot of 40-50mpg cars on the market in the 90's, that are gone today. Nothing on par with a Geo Metro, for instance. It's not fair to compare ICE/electric hybrids to a pure ICE vehicle like the Metro.
Larger displacement vehicles have been able to churn out more power and institute fuel saving operations inside of a very narrow power band, but if you don't live somewhere flat as a checker board then you don't get to drive in the manner needed to stay in that band.
I get the impression, watching cars since the 90's to today, that fuel economy has mostly stagnated because of the increased demand for more features in cars, and/or increased emissions standards that do not generate more power. The Metro wasn't the safest car in a crash, for sure, and it would be challenged to sell today when its crash ratings were compared to a 2020's Corolla or other competitor. And despite sipping gas like a Victorian Socialite at Tea, it probably had substandard emissions management by today's standards.
A 1995 Ford Taurus 3.0L V6 got 17city/26hwy mpg.
A 2015 Ford Taurus 3.5L V6 gets 18/26.
That's just one car and I don't have the patience to check a wide swathe of different makes and models, this just came to my head because it's what my dad drove when I was in high school, and it's still made recently.
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And yet average fuel economy in the US has been on a steady (albeit slow) climb from the 90's to today.
https://www.bts.gov/content/average-fuel-efficiency-us-light-duty-vehicles
This is in spite of increased weight from safety standards and gizmos. It's true that there are no cheap, very efficient shitboxes anymore (The Metro, the Honda CRX, to a lesser extent the Omni) I think there are just less shitboxes in general. We often talked about how due both to regulation and market forces cars are much more expensive then they used to be, they are also heavier. That manufacturers have managed to make the fleet on average more efficient even though cars are heavier, and sedans have been all but replaced by crossovers says a lot about the current state of engine efficiency.
Put it this way: in 1990 GM put a 1.0L, 3 cylinder engine making 49HP in a 1600lb Metro and got 41MPG. Now Daimler puts a 1.0L, 3 cylinder engine making 89HP in a 2000lb Smart fortwo and still gets 40 MPG.
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There were a lot of 40-50mpg cars on the market in the 90's, that are gone today. Nothing on par with a Geo Metro, for instance. It's not fair to compare ICE/electric hybrids to a pure ICE vehicle like the Metro.
But they were a small faction of cars sold back then. Overall avg mpg has gone up since.
In my case
2007 Focus SES (what I drive now) 32mpg
For comparison 2016 42mpg
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WTI has dropped below $100 a barrel.
Now sitting at $97 and change.
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95.01
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$3.95 to $3.99 here in rural Ky. The cities and interstate areas are .40 or more higher.
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$3.95 to $3.99 here in rural Ky. The cities and interstate areas are .40 or more higher.
$4.19-4.25 at most stations in Louisville this morning. Actually seem to be creeping down a bit at some. Nearly 100% of them were $4.25 yesterday.
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$93
Expect Biden and gang to do something to reverse that trend
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This isn't good. We can't let Uncle Joe get credit for dropping gas and oil prices.
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This isn't good. We can't let Uncle Joe get credit for dropping gas and oil prices.
Like asking a knee not to jerk.
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Filled up yesterday for $3.79. Sucks, but beats the heck out of $4.19 from same time last week.
Brad
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Yours went down? Nice.
Ours is exactly where it was a week ago, which is good, I guess, because it's not continued to jump.
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CNN headline
"Oil prices dropped 30% in a week. What gives?"
Over a picture of Biden
The article doesn't even mention Biden but it's clear what mental image they're trying to put in your head.
Most people won't go pass the headline and they know it.
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Canada stepping up to the plate.
Canada is discussing a boost in its oil exports to make up for banned Russian volumes, for both the United States and Europe, the country’s natural resources minister has said.
Jonathan Wilkinson spoke to his counterparts from the G7 group last week, saying “In the context of the discussions, not just with the Americans, but the Europeans as well, we have essentially asked each other, those of us that are oil and gas producers, to look at whatever we can do,” in an interview with the Canadian Press.
Wilkinson appears to be optimistic that the way to increase oil exports to countries that need more oil could be finalized by March 23, when European and North American energy ministers meet in Paris at an event organized by the International Energy Agency.
Canada Ready To Ramp Up Oil Exports To Europe And The U.S.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Canada-Ready-To-Ramp-Up-Oil-Exports-To-Europe-And-The-US.html
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Was down to 93 thanks to Biden
Now at 97 thanks to Putin
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Was down to 93 thanks to Biden
Now at 97 thanks to Putin
Now you're getting it!
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$3.71 this morning, down a whopping 4 cents.
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Currently $ 4.39 at the local Costco, and I think that is a drop of 20 cents since last week.
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$3.89 per gal in the Minneapolis - St. Paul area.
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Crude is continuing to drop, but it's really slowed down today. Moving a lot more tentatively and waiting for results of the Ukraine-Russia talks.
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Last week, IL-ANNOY just east of St. Louis rose to $4.599 but has dropped back to $4.539 now. [barf]
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Haven't seen any price movement here in Northern Virginia.
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(https://i.imgur.com/8m5krN2.jpg)
Holding at 3.99 here
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If you have a drill, funnel and a few gas jugs it is cheap.
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$4.97 for 93 octane. Cost $73.03 and 14.667 gallons to fill the Mercedes. Thankfully it get 34 mpg.
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If you have a drill, funnel and a few gas jugs it is cheap.
(https://i.imgur.com/hm5sXQt.jpg)
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$4.97 for 93 octane. Cost $73.03 and 14.667 gallons to fill the Mercedes. Thankfully it get 34 mpg.
I simply won't buy a car that requires premium gasoline.
My ex wife had a 1986 Crapstang, one of the still very neutered Ford Mustangs. She was absolutely convinced that it was some sort of super high performance speciality sports car and absolutely REQUIRED premium gasoline or the engine would explode.
I showed her the book -- premium not required.
I showed her various industry articles on how premium is a waste of money if your car doesn't require it.
Nope. Absolutely HAD to have premium, or death, destruction, and debasement.
I NEVER put premium in it. And she never knew the freaking difference.
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My last several cars required premium fuel. When I finally switched to a truck that ate 87 Octane, my wife switched to an SUV that requires 93. (technically 91, I think, but it gets 93).
Honestly it wasn't that much of a difference back when I started with the Mustang (Unlike your wife's, mine did require 93 or it would detonate) Back then it was like 20 or 30 cents a gal more, so not that big a deal. Now it's like 60 cents a gal difference. That's like $10 for the wife's tank. But even that isn't that much when you start looking at the price of "fast car" brakes, tires, and other consumables.
[shrug] You gotta pay money for a performance car.
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Crude is skyrocketing again today, up above $100 a barrel again.
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I simply won't buy a car that requires premium gasoline.
My ex wife had a 1986 Crapstang, one of the still very neutered Ford Mustangs. She was absolutely convinced that it was some sort of super high performance speciality sports car and absolutely REQUIRED premium gasoline or the engine would explode.
I showed her the book -- premium not required.
I showed her various industry articles on how premium is a waste of money if your car doesn't require it.
Nope. Absolutely HAD to have premium, or death, destruction, and debasement.
I NEVER put premium in it. And she never knew the freaking difference.
Know a guy who had a Civic Sport that required prem gas. He loved the car but hated paying for the gas and said it ran like crap on anything but premium. He said that was the main reason he sold it.
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Crude is skyrocketing again today, up above $100 a barrel again.
It would be dropping if the dems wouldn't have shot down the drill baby drill bill.
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I simply won't buy a car that requires premium gasoline.
All good. Right now I’m getting about 3 days to the gallon since I’m still working from home…lol
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It would be dropping if the dems wouldn't have shot down the drill baby drill bill.
This is my shocked face.
America Iran, Venezuela, China, Saudi Arabia, anyone but America First.
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Know a guy who had a Civic Sport that required prem gas. He loved the car but hated paying for the gas and said it ran like crap on anything but premium. He said that was the main reason he sold it.
When Subaru brought out their first round of US H-6 engines back in the late 1990s/early 2000s they all required premium gas, right at the time that gas prices were starting to go through the roof. That really hindered the sale of 6 cylinder Subarus for a couple of years until 2006 when the engines would finally fun on 87 octane.
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It would be dropping if the dems wouldn't have shot down the drill baby drill bill.
Just goes to show that energy production is racist, but only when production is happening in the US.
When Biden is groveling and begging the good brown peoples of South America and the Middle East to ramp up oil production to take the well-deserved domestic election blowtorch off his party, well that's not energy production racism, that's bolstering the lives of those repressed peoples! And if you disagree, well you're just a big racist!
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$3.90 at Costco in Cincinnati today.
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I remember previous price see-saws of crude oil.
When the crude price went DOWN, gas prices at the pump took quite a while to go down as well - the reason given by the industry was that there was about an 8-week supply chain between crude purchases and the gas pump.
On the other hand, when the crude price went UP, gas prices at the pump went up very quickly - usually within days, sometimes within hours. That 8-week supply chain became considerably shorter.
Funny how that works.
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Down six to ten cents in this area over the last few days. We're at $4.09 to $4.13 around here.
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Over $5 per gallon in Las Vegas. Mostly $4 to $4.50 in West Texas and Arizona last weekend.
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"Down six to ten cents in this area over the last few days. We're at $4.09 to $4.13 around here."
Cue Democrats and Uncle Joe taking credit for falling gas prices in 3... 2... 1...
I think the only ones who believe that crap are Nancy Pelosi, much of the left-leaning media, and Joe himself.
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My last several cars required premium fuel. When I finally switched to a truck that ate 87 Octane, my wife switched to an SUV that requires 93. (technically 91, I think, but it gets 93).
Honestly it wasn't that much of a difference back when I started with the Mustang (Unlike your wife's, mine did require 93 or it would detonate) Back then it was like 20 or 30 cents a gal more, so not that big a deal. Now it's like 60 cents a gal difference. That's like $10 for the wife's tank. But even that isn't that much when you start looking at the price of "fast car" brakes, tires, and other consumables.
[shrug] You gotta pay money for a performance car.
Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?
Prices are down around $0.10 per gallon.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1504625069506666498
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Station getting sued for having gas too cheap
Gas Station facing lawsuits over cheap prices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM9LUl_baSU
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The Global (old Citgo) near my house dropped 4 cents a gallon to $4.159.
That's the only downward movement I've seen in Northern Virginia.
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$110 barrel
And this news
The Yemeni Houthi rebels launched a ballistic missile and drone attack on Saudi energy targets, affecting oil processing rates at a refinery.
A drone attack on Saturday targeted an oil products distribution center in Jizan, in southeastern Saudi Arabia, the Saudi Press Agency reported. A day later, two drones were sent to a natural gas plant in Yanbu and to facilities owned by the Yanbu Aramco Sinopec Refining Company, or YASREF, the Saudi Ministry of Energy said.
Houthi Rebels Target Saudi Energy Infrastructure Again
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Houthi-Rebels-Target-Saudi-Energy-Infrastructure-Again.html
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Diesel in Pahrump NV
3/21 4.749 a gallon
3/22 4.999 a gallon
Cash/Debit price
Credit card add 10 cents per gallon to the above.
This is the second time I have noticed it this high. I don't get out much. ;)
bob
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3.79 a gallon. 70 to fill up from a 1/4 tank.
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OMG! WE'RE DOUBLE SAVED!
GLORY BE TO BRANDON!
The price at the Global down the street dropped to $4.09 from $4.15.
Of course, the price of crude has been skyrocketing the past couple of days.
And the price hasn't moved by a penny at any other station in the area that I can tell.
BUT THANK GOD FOR BRANDON!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euNx2IXSirY
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Crude prices are down over $3 a barrel for WTI right now, but are still north of $111.
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$3.69 a few minutes ago. Mid-grade was $4.19.
RBOB is down a little on the day. $3.36 as of mid-afternoon.
Brad
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https://twitter.com/FINALLEVEL/status/1506998392328794117?cxt=HHwWisC9vbXD9-kpAAAA
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Wow, the Shell down the street, which is normally the most expensive of the stations near me, dropped from $4.34 to $4.15.
Nice.
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About to pay $4.70 for regular at Fred Meyers. Chevron's diesel topped $6.10
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$3.73 at the local Murphy's.
The pump automatically stopped at $75.00 - just enough for the gauge to read full.
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$3.999 at BJ's discount club this evening.
Two weeks ago it was $4.199.
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Lovely
Huge explosion in Jeddah as 'Saudi Aramco storage facility is hit'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFj5nDL0y7o
#BREAKING: Initial reports and video circulating about an #Iran-backed #Houthis attack on a Saudi Aramco facility in Jeddah. #OOTT pic.twitter.com/7TB56eycQq
Oil Rises As Videos Emerge Of Attack On Saudi Oil Facility
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Oil-Rises-As-Videos-Emerge-Of-Attack-On-Saudi-Oil-Facility.html
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This is three weeks in a row they have been hit by the group Biden took off watch list. And they say it's not true that they won't take Bidens call.
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This is three weeks in a row they have been hit by the group Biden took off watch list. And they say it's not true that they won't take Bidens call.
I’m telling y’all this *expletive deleted*it is on purpose. Working class Americans voted in droves for Trump so how can Biden retaliate and hit them hard?
Completely *expletive deleted*ck gas prices and grocery prices up and refuse to take any sensible actions to relieve prices. Red staters/voters are the ones who live out in rural and semi rural areas, small towns, and have to drive to get to work. Take that 30-45 minute each way drive and *expletive deleted*ck them good. Take that service truck, tractor trailer or delivery truck and really increase the costs of them doing business..
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(https://i.imgur.com/PeLDbXu.jpg)
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$3.98 in Ohio and as I drove I to Pennsylvania it went up to about $4.35. Ended up in WV where it’s $3.93 around Morgantown
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Pennsylvania is turning into the California of the East tax wise, especially with fuel taxes.
I was going to retire back to Pennsylvania, but nope, no longer.
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The Global went from $4.09 to $4.19.
The Shell went from $4.15 to $4.24. Of course, NONE of that is Joe's fault. He's only responsible for the price dropping. Greedy oil corporations are responsible for the price rising.
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Regular @ Costco was $3.89 this morning in Virginia.
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Wow. With news that Shanghai is being locked down over COVID traders are apparently flashing back to the "OMG!!!" portion of the pandemic... crude is down almost $8 a barrel right now.
Still over $100 a barrel, though.
And I'm sure tomorrow will bring some mildly supportive news and the prices will rocket right the *expletive deleted*ck back up.
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Heeeeer's Kamala
"How do we get to a solution for [gas prices]?"
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1508479856220246025
:O
We are so *expletive deleted*ed
Kamala Harris lays out Biden admin’s solution to high gas prices and offers some words of encouragement for struggling Americans [audio]
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/03/28/kamala-harris-lays-out-biden-admins-solution-to-high-gas-prices-and-offers-some-words-of-encouragement-for-struggling-americans-audio/
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One heartbeat away.
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"And I'm sure tomorrow will bring some mildly supportive news and the prices will rocket right the *expletive deleted*ck back up. "
Oh boy! The rocket is armed and launching!
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Houston, we have a negative on that orbit trajectory...
Wow. Talk about a quick turnaround. WTI is now down $5 a barrel, sitting at $100.
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And there's our rocket up oil's ass...
Most of yesterday's declines slowly decayed. Today? Up over $4 a barrel because... something something possibly bad possibly not something something! OMG!
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A couple of days ago we took a round trip from N. TX to San Antonio.* Prices (that I saw) ranged from $3.56 to $4.09 for the cheap stuff. Diesel was about $1.00/gal more.
I, of course, didn't need gas when near the cheap prices, but I didn't pay more than $3.80 either time I filled up.
*Hwy 34 to 35 down, Hwy 35 to 171/31 to 19 back.
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Crude prices are falling like a freaking stone today...
Because Brandon is supposedly looking at tapping the ever loving hell out of the strategic petroleum reserve....
Upwards 1 million barrels a day for several months.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/31/oil-markets-us-strategic-petroleum-reserve.html
Of course, let's NOT address the problem of global production shortfalls by making it easier for US producers to actually *expletive deleted*ing produce oil... :facepalm:
And, given that the SPR only holds about 715 million barrels of oil, and right now it's well off it's capacity (as of 4 December is was down to about 550 million barrels...
Well, you do the math.
What's even more interesting is that there's no word of what Brandon's plan is to replenish the reserve. Of course, we can't do that, because fossil fuel is bad!
Christ, this has absolute disaster written all over it, and I hope the Republicans go to town on this decision.
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Because Brandon is supposedly looking at tapping the ever loving hell out of the strategic petroleum reserve....
Upwards 1 million barrels a day for several months.
He's such a dumb *expletive deleted*ing ahole. AFAIC, using the Strategic Reserves like this (especially when you're the one who caused the problem on day #2 in office) should be an impeachable offense, no matter who's in charge.
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I haven't had to pay over $3.999 for gas (local Texaco) during this run-up. I've seen a few stations a little cheaper.
As for the SPR . . . wasn't it Trump who bought a lot of oil for the SPR when prices collapsed a few years back?
Maybe Brandon figures it's one more good thing Trump did that he can break.
Stupidity or senility is no longer sufficient to explain his actions - malice is beginning to look much more apt. Brandon could do better for this country if he made every decision by coin flip.
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"As for the SPR . . . wasn't it Trump who bought a lot of oil for the SPR when prices collapsed a few years back?"
Yes, and a good chunk of it was American produced oil, IIRC.
What's lesser known is that since at least 2015 the Government has been quietly selling off tranches of the SPR as a means of reducing the deficit. :mad:
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About to drive down to Florida, across to Arizona and back to Ohio in the next 2 weeks. Will let ya all know how much it hurt at the gas pump.
Taking the Explorer that gets roughly 20 mpg.
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Why aren't oil companies doing their patriotic duty and producing more oil?!?
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/03/31/insanity-watch-joe-biden-try-to-lie-and-gaslight-his-way-out-of-responsibility-for-the-energy-crisis-he-and-dems-have-caused-videos/
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I ran on destroying your whole industry why won't you pump more oil and invest millions in new projects?
Oh and OPEC, I've turned Iran loose on you so why don't you pump more oil.
Wait, my card says I need to shut up and walk away. I'll be at my beach house because global warming and all that.
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Under $100
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1510478505343176705
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/04/03/muh-green-energy-pete-buttigieg-says-tough-ttty-to-americans-struggling-with-crazy-expensive-prices-at-the-pump-watch/
Yeah, right. We'll be immune to price hikes for "clean energy" even while our adversaries are the ones selling us cobalt, lithium, etc. for clean energy technology. ;/
Because "domestic clean energy production" still means "NIMBY" to these bozos.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1510478505343176705
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/04/03/muh-green-energy-pete-buttigieg-says-tough-ttty-to-americans-struggling-with-crazy-expensive-prices-at-the-pump-watch/
Yeah, right. We'll be immune to price hikes for "clean energy" even while our adversaries are the ones selling us cobalt, lithium, etc. for clean energy technology. ;/
Because "domestic clean energy production" still means "NIMBY" to these bozos.
aka Those who like buying paintings
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Highest so far was $4.15 in Panama City Beach Florida. Today we drove thru Florida panhandle, Lower Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana and it averaged $3.95 until we got into Texas. Port Arthur area (with several refineries) is $3.79 per gallon.
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/x383/WLJohnson1/.highres/-comic-1341334295_zpsb3b5ae56.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
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Most of Texas along I-10 was $3.79 to $3.99 with a few over $4 between San Antonio and Ft. Stockton.
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$3.79 in the closet Kansas town to me. I saw my first Biden sticker. A few months ago, someone put a Let's Go Brandon side next to the station.
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$96 barrel
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/california-gas-stations-insane-prices-will-make-your-jaw-drop
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2022/04/1440/810/image-145.png?ve=1&tl=1)
I presume that once the price/gal hits double digits, the decimal point moves one place to the right on the display.
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I saw a pic that had $10.99 for diesel.
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$3.69 here in North Central Ky
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Two days ago the Global down the street from me went from $4.09 to $4.19 a gallon.
Yesterday the Shell (also VERY close to me and within spitting distance of the Global) went from $4.29 to $4.19.
Brandon doesn't know whether to take credit for saving Americans or blame the oil companies for gouging.
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We've been around $4.59 for probably two weeks now.
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$97
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$3.55 for regular unleaded yesterday.
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$3.59 for standard grade as of noon today.
RBOB spot is flirting with going sub-$3 today.
Brad
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$4.39 at Costco this morning. I'm back to getting gas there since the panic lines seem to have subsided. I was able to drive straight to a pump at 0930.
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And the price at Global is back to $4.09!
BRANDON HAS SAVED US AGAIN! HUZZAH!
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$3.85 to $3.96 in these parts.
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Jusr saw $3.44 on the way home.
Brad
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Just paid $4.47 today in Tucson Arizona.
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OH GLORIOUS DAY AND PRAISE BE UNTO BRANDON, FROM WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOW!
PRICE AT THE GLOBAL IS NOW $3.99!
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OH GLORIOUS DAY AND PRAISE BE UNTO BRANDON, FROM WHOM ALL BLESSINGS FLOW!
PRICE AT THE GLOBAL IS NOW $3.99!
So put you down for 5 Biden votes ?
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Nah, I think I'll give them all to Nancy! She needs them more than Sniffy Joe what with all his glorious big wins lately!
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#3.339 at a BP in Old, IA for e-15.
It is a filing station out in the middle of nowhere on the Avenue of the Saints (US Hwy 218, IA Hwy 27) between Iowa City and Mt. Pleasant, IA. I've been by it a few times lately heading for my hometown, it really is the cheapest gas I have seen lately.
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I paid $3.29 a gallon this morning, but that was only because I had 90 cents a gallon off in rewards points.
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When I went to lunch the local Murphy's was $3.64 for low test. When I left work this afternoon it was $3.56.
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Crude is down over $4.50 a barrel right now on the recent stockpile release and lockdown news from China.
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$3.42 in town last night.
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$94 barrel
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And today the same Murphy's is down to $3.48.
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$3.49 today. Still a long way from $1.89.
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This is CNN
Opinion: The best solution to high gas prices: tax the oil companies
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/11/perspectives/windfall-profits-tax-oil-companies/index.html
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Biden is increasing E15 output. At a time when farmers are paying top dollar for fertilizer, and not long after he talked about "expecting food shortages". So yeah, lets use more land for fuel corn instead of feed and people corn.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-to-announce-e15-gasoline-use-to-help-increase-fuel-supply-reduce-gas-prices
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And crude regains pretty much everything it lost yesterday.
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Biden is increasing E15 output. At a time when farmers are paying top dollar for fertilizer, and not long after he talked about "expecting food shortages". So yeah, lets use more land for fuel corn instead of feed and people corn.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-to-announce-e15-gasoline-use-to-help-increase-fuel-supply-reduce-gas-prices
I can't see it helping much if any. This year will be the first time ever that my area will grow more soybeans than corn due to fertilizer cost.
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$3.29 this morning.
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... for E85. >:D
I run a couple tanks of corn squeezin's every few months to de-carbon the combustion chambers and (hopefully) minimize intake valve carbon deposits. The dual-mode injection system in current 5.0 engines isn't as bad about it as the single-mode GDI engines, but why take chances. It also smells nice and the truck really, really likes it. Not so much in overall power but it's noticeably more responsive at part throttle. I presume it's due to a combination of intake charge temp/density and the computer using E85's 104 octane rating as an excuse to max out low-RPM timing and ramp up the throttle response curve. I certainly don't mind.
Mornings are a little cooler than I normally like for running E85, but single-digit RH the next few days means I shouldn't have issues with intake icing.
Brad
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Oil's up over $6 right now, back to above $100 a barrel.
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$3.33 here on I-44 between OKC and Tulsa. Cheapest we paid in Arizona was $4.19.
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RBOB spot is up twelve cents today, too.
Brad
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$3.33 here on I-44 between OKC and Tulsa. Cheapest we paid in Arizona was $4.19.
Filled up for $3.34 this morning north of Tulsa.
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Back over $100 barrel
$101.30 at time of posting
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So we have E-10 in the Seattle area. If it goes up to E-15, is that going to have negative implications for the lawnmower and the Yamaha scooter? I am assuming that the cars (2016 Tacoma and 2020 Santa Fe) are new enough such that they won't have any issues.
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Final tally for us.
Ohio —-> Florida —-> Arizona —-> Ohio 31 March-12 April
Miles traveled = 4652
Fuel cost = $758.03
Airbnb in Florida $425 for 2 days
Hotels = $688.49
$1871.52 + food costs to attend 2 weddings….My niece was married in Florida and my son in Arizona.
Gas was in the high $3 range for most of the trip, even down in Florida. Arizona was the highest with West Texas close to, and sometimes right around the $4.10 range. Eastern Texas stayed below $4.
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So we have E-10 in the Seattle area. If it goes up to E-15, is that going to have negative implications for the lawnmower and the Yamaha scooter? I am assuming that the cars (2016 Tacoma and 2020 Santa Fe) are new enough such that they won't have any issues.
There are only 2300 stations setup to pump E-15 so if you don't have it now I don't see them changing over. I hate to even put E-10 in any of my 2 strokes but don't always have the option.
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$3.84 Sam's Club
Oil back over $100 at $101.3
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4.12!
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OK, recent posters, are the prices you seeing in your areas up, down, or the same?
The prices in my area have been pretty stable the last couple of weeks, most above $4 a gallon, but the Global down the street keeps bouncing back and forth between $3.99 and $4.09.
They're at $4.09 right now.
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Bouncing back and forth between $3.59 and $3.79 for the last couple of months here.
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OK, recent posters, are the prices you seeing in your areas up, down, or the same?
The prices in my area have been pretty stable the last couple of weeks, most above $4 a gallon, but the Global down the street keeps bouncing back and forth between $3.99 and $4.09.
They're at $4.09 right now.
Seems to vary up or down $0.20 to 0.30 depending upon the day.
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Been stable here for the past 2 to 3 weeks ~$3.94
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Here (in N TX) it's been between $3.79 $ $4.09 for the last few weeks. The last week or so it's been hovering around the $3.79 mark.
That's for the cheap stuff. Diesel & non-ethanol are usually $0.50 more.
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Gas is likely to get more expensive. Another Texas refinery closing permanently.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/oil-refineries-shutter-amid-hostile-fossil-fuel-policies-pain-at-the-pump (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/oil-refineries-shutter-amid-hostile-fossil-fuel-policies-pain-at-the-pump)
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Gas is likely to get more expensive. Another Texas refinery closing permanently.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/oil-refineries-shutter-amid-hostile-fossil-fuel-policies-pain-at-the-pump (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/oil-refineries-shutter-amid-hostile-fossil-fuel-policies-pain-at-the-pump)
But But Biden can't do anything that effects gas prices
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We're back up to the $3.95 to $3.99 range. Not much spread between different stations.
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We're back up to the $3.95 to $3.99 range. Not much spread between different stations.
Similar for me filling up this morning.
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$ 4.19 at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle, this morning.
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$3.869 today at the Charlottesville, VA Costco.
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Prices are all over the place from $3.59 to $4 in north Houston and the surrounding area. There can be 20¢ difference between two stations on the same block. Most are probably close to $3.69
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Here gas jumped from ~$3.84 to ~$4.14-$4.19 in just a couple of days
Oil at $102/barrel right now
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Joe set another record. National average is now the highest it's ever been.
Lets Go Brandon.
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"Oil at $1.02/barrel right now"
I wish oil were at $1.02 a barrel.
Gasoline would be about a half cent a gallon.
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"Oil at $1.02/barrel right now"
I wish oil were at $1.02 a barrel.
Gasoline would be about a half cent a gallon.
Bit of a typo there.
Besides we all know it would go down about 2 cents :P
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$4.00 for regular here now.
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Global down the street from me went from $4.09 last week to $4.29 today.
The Shell where I trade in my grocery store rewards points is up to $4.39 and the Sunoco across the street is up to $4.42.
The Global (formerly Citgo) is one of the few stations around that carries kerosene. For years it had been at $3.99 a gallon.
Noticed yesterday that it's now $5.99 a gallon.
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In the Tyler TX area I found gas from $3.85 (where I filled up)* to $4.15, diesel was $5.19 +/- $.10 everywhere I saw.
*I remember when, not too long ago, it cost ~$20 to fill the car, today was $58.00. Let's go Brandon! You *expletive deleted*ing Liberal ahole!
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$4.60 at fred meyers, $5.00 at Chevron.
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If i was still commuting to Tulsa every day my monthly fuel bill would be over $500 a month.
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$3.74 at sams club.
That said, I think my MPG won't be so good on this fill up, on account of the 33 gallons I added being too heavy for the corroded fuel tank strap... Efffff
(https://i.imgur.com/txLx0lb.jpg)
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Man, that sucks!
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If i was still commuting to Tulsa every day my monthly fuel bill would be over $500 a month.
You retired at the right time.
And that's why I'm glad that I dragged my feet about going to the new office when it opened last August.
That facility is 11-12 miles from my house.
The office where I'm working is literally 2 miles up the street.
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I haven't thought much about fuel cost for going somewhere as a retired bum. The other day though, I was thinking with most stuff being around a 60 mile round trip from me and the low 20s MPG of my vehicles, that's a ~$12 trip every time. It makes it very worthwhile to spend $10 on some nuts and bolts at the local hardware store even if they're only $6 at the home despot.
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There has not been a new greenfield refinery opened in this country since 1977, due mostly to federal and state regulatory burdens. Older refineries are being permanently taken offline (two so far that I have read about this year, others in the northeast in recent years). Fewer oil field pipelines to carry oil to shipping points are being approved, forcing drillers to truck oil to major pipeline head ends or even to refineries.
Given those and other factors, I wonder if we may have finally entered a phase where POL prices will only rise in the future?
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Just hit $4.35 here in SW Ohio. Gonna be an expensive trip this weekend dragging the RV to WV for some trout fishing in the mountains east of Elkins….
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And the Shell station this morning is at $4.49 a gallon.
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$3.99 most places in town this morning. Couple of truck stops on the interstate are $4.09.
Brad
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It takes me 2.25 gallons of gas to make my round trip commute of 49 miles. So lately, I think about each trip to the office costing me $ 10.
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From Instagram:
"Are you sweating while putting petrol in your car? Feeling sick when paying for it?"
"You've got the carownervirus."
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BJ's discount regular this evening was $4.119. Last Friday it was &3.869
I expect it will keep going up.
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This may have been posted here already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euNx2IXSirY
$4.19 locally. Replaced the fuel pump in my truck last weekend, no more leaks when it's running.
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Two days ago, prices in IL-ANNOY just east of St. Louis were running around $4.459/gal.
Yesterday, many stations jumped to $4.759, compared to the national "average" of $4.40/gal.
From what I have heard, it is even worse up around Chicago. [barf]
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$30.26 for 7 Gallons @ $4.329/gal at one of the cheaper places in town.
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The Biden admin just can't understand why these greedy oil companies don't start drilling domestically. ;/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-oil-gas-lease-sale-record-high-prices
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The Biden admin just can't understand why these greedy oil companies don't start drilling domestically. ;/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-oil-gas-lease-sale-record-high-prices
Fits a pattern
We keep releasing violent criminals but can't under stand why violent crime keeps going up.
We keep relaxing penalties but can't under stand why shoplifting keeps going up
We keep raising taxes and fees but can't understand why they now want to charge more
We keep paying people not to work but can't understand why people don't want to work
We keep lowering education standards but can't understand why people are getting dumber
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Well this just proves that Uncle Joe is right! 100% right!
Just buy an electric car you white privilege cis normal racist!
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/biden-resuming-federal-drilling-wont-help-gas-prices-for-over-a-year-lipow
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The Biden admin just can't understand why these greedy oil companies don't start drilling domestically. ;/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-oil-gas-lease-sale-record-high-prices
See what repealing Roe v Wade did!
Or was it Putin?
Or Trump?
It was Trump Putin Roewade!
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See what repealing Roe v Wade did!
Or was it Putin?
Or Trump?
It was Trump Putin Roewade!
You mean "Was it the MAGA King?"
=D
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The bugaboo is "Ultra MAGA" now.
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From the article
"Due to lack of industry interest in leasing in the area, the Department will not move forward with the proposed Cook Inlet OCS oil and gas lease sale 258," a DOI spokesperson told FOX Business in a statement Thursday.
"The Department also will not move forward with lease sales 259 and 261 in the Gulf of Mexico region, as a result of delays due to factors including conflicting court rulings that impacted work on these proposed lease sales," the spokesperson added.
The spokesperson also told FOX Business that "there are 10.9 million acres of offshore federal waters already under lease to industry," and "of those, the industry is not producing on more than three-quarters (75.7% or 8.26 million acres)."
Sounds like lack of demand from the industry for those leases.
Anger should be directed at all the big mergers of oil companies 15-25 years ago.
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From the article
Sounds like lack of demand from the industry for those leases.
Anger should be directed at all the big mergers of oil companies 15-25 years ago.
Lack of demand, or lack of demand due to regulations? It's easy for the gov to use the "lack of demand" line without mentioning their egregious regulations that cause the lack of demand.
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Lack of demand, or lack of demand due to regulations? It's easy for the gov to use the "lack of demand" line without mentioning their egregious regulations that cause the lack of demand.
"Just a few more environmental impact statements (that say the same thing as the last seven) and we can release that permit."
"By the way, my 'friend' has a company that does those impact statements. They do a really good job on them." wink-wink.
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Who would want to invest a butt load of money when this admin might change it's mind tomorrow ?
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Lack of demand, or lack of demand due to regulations? It's easy for the gov to use the "lack of demand" line without mentioning their egregious regulations that cause the lack of demand.
People keep spittlescreeching (thanks bogie) about regulations, but rarely does anyone credibly say exactly what these choking regulations are or give examples of anecdotal stories. Usually, a lot of blather that appeals to the intended audience that keeps the advertisers happy and the ratings up for that demographic.
Speaking of regulations and oil production on US government land.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/regulatory-changes-over-us-oil-gas-leases-not-hampering-output-barclays-2022-03-23/
Also remember that 6% of US oil production comes for US government land. That means that 94% comes from state and privately held land. Even with the royality increase from 12%-18% on new leases on Fed ground, that is still less than most oil royalties on state and private land.
I think oil companies don't want to get caught with their dick in the door when prices crash in the future like that happened after the oil run-up in the mid to late 2010's. I believe the oil companies are trying to maximize their profits now and buying back as much stock as they can.
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We're saved
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
PELOSI: "Price gouging needs to be stopped...the Putin tax cut hike at the pump is part of this."
Yes that's what she actually said, watch the video
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1524770605932892163
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Pelosi is talking about implementing price fixing on gas/diesel if that happens we are *expletive deleted*ed
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How would "they" determine the price to set in every county in the country?
And are "they" planning to set the price the fuel station pays for their product?
Will "they" set the price for the crude delivered to the refinery?
What about the wages paid at the drill site?
I can see this spiraling out of control - fast.
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How would "they" determine the price to set in every county in the country?
Everyone gets California prices.
To be equitable of course
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$4 friggin 35 here in West By God Virginia. That’s WVA for you utherns
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Should I mention I have to make a road trip in a week? The gas that should have cost about $400 will likely be more than $1000 when I'm done. I'm sure glad I will have to fork out an extra $600 for no damn reason other than Brandon's puppeteers canceled the keystone pipeline. Our gas costs have more than doubled because of politics alone, remember that.
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It just jumped about $0.25-30 here...
And the woke folk keep saying that it is to encourage people to buy electric cars.
Guess what? Electricity is gonna go up too.
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Electricity is going up, and so is the cost of electric cars. Lose, lose, lose situation.
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Plus we would have to spend $$$$$ to upgrade our house supply.
Not to mention our electrical grid just can't handle the load. Expect the dems to introduce a $$$$$$$$ upgrade bill.
And what about apartments and condos?
But that's okay, the elites pushing this don't even notice the 3k+ electric bill every month just for their 10 car garage so what 's your problem?
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Well if they'd just tax one billionaire at a fair share this country could afford to upgrade the whole electrical grid and give everyone a free electric vehicle and electric charger!
And it would cure inflation, too!*
*Brought to you by Democrats don't understand the first *expletive deleted*ing thing about economics.com
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Well if they'd just tax one billionaire at a fair share this country could afford to upgrade the whole electrical grid and give everyone a free electric vehicle and electric charger!
And it would cure inflation, too!*
*Brought to you by Democrats don't understand the first *expletive deleted*ing thing about economics.com
Usually if I get into a discussion with one of those if you take rich people's money you can pay for everything.
Me: What about the next year. How are you going to pay for everything afterwards.
Them: You take their money
Me: What money? You already took their money.
Some get it some don't.
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Well if they'd just tax one billionaire at a fair share this country could afford to upgrade the whole electrical grid and give everyone a free electric vehicle and electric charger!
And it would cure inflation, too!*
*Brought to you by Democrats don't understand the first *expletive deleted*ing thing about economics.com
You must have read Brandon's latest statement:
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
United States government official
You want to bring down inflation?
Let’s make sure the wealthiest corporations pay their fair share.
4:02 PM · May 13, 2022·Sprout Social
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$80 a week for me to get to/from work, $60 a week for my wife. Almost $600 a month.
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Now some democrats are talking about price controls on gasoline. Who the hell is running policy - someone they hired out of Zimbabwe?
I'm not a fan of Big Oil, but I'm pretty sure the profit Exxon/Shell/BP/Etc make on each gallon of gasoline sold is less than the taxes collected on each gallon.
Imposing price controls would only assure shortages on gas that make the current shortages on baby formula look trivial. So we'd be trading expensive gas for NO gas.
With this administration . . . maybe that's the point. :facepalm:
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Now some democrats are talking about price controls on gasoline. Who the hell is running policy - someone they hired out of Zimbabwe?
I'm not a fan of Big Oil, but I'm pretty sure the profit Exxon/Shell/BP/Etc make on each gallon of gasoline sold is less than the taxes collected on each gallon.
Imposing price controls would only assure shortages on gas that make the current shortages on baby formula look trivial. So we'd be trading expensive gas for NO gas.
With this administration . . . maybe that's the point. :facepalm:
With this, plus shortages on critical items like baby formula*, it certainly seems we are trying to emulate Venezuela.
*[tinfoil hat firmly in place] It was interesting to see a map on the baby formula shortages and see that many liberal coastal states are not as affected as other areas. Oh, also that there is plenty of formula at the Southern border.
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Usually if I get into a discussion with one of those if you take rich people's money you can pay for everything.
Me: What about the next year. How are you going to pay for everything afterwards.
Them: You take their money
Me: What money? You already took their money.
Some get it some don't.
Well obviously they'll just make more money that we can take again, you racist homophobic fascist!
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Saw a range of $4.16 to $4.39 while running around today after church.
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Just checked, gas is ~$5.25 to $6 in Sacramento right now.
So for a gun you get 8-9 or so gallons of gas
Yeah....
Sacramento Wants You to Turn In Your Gun for a $50 Gas Card
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/sacramento-wants-you-to-turn-in-your-gun-for-a-50-gas-card/
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Question just popped into my head.
Will they even bother to try to catch let alone arrest you for stealing 8-9 gallons of gas in CA?
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I just drove from SE Texas to SE Minnesota. Got back this afternoon. Gas prices in Texas were about $4.20 a gallon. Texas was the most expensive state, but not a lot higher than the others. In Arkansas I filled up for $4.05 a gallon. And in Missouri and Iowa I saw gas occasionally at $3.99 or even $3.89, but only when I had a mostly-full tank already. I think I paid $4.09 in Missouri. It's higher in Minnesota but I haven't seen that many stations so don't have a feel for it; maybe $4.20? gasbuddy.com says it's $4.09 at Costco and Fleet Farm, and $4.24 at most other local stations in Rochester.
Most of the Texas stations had separate prices for cash and credit. Usually 10 cents difference, but sometimes 20.
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Is it going to get worse? Yes
https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/12/united-states-diesel-fuel-inventories-prices/
American diesel stockpiles have been depleted while prices have surged to record highs, leading to higher prices for consumers.
“I wouldn’t be surprised to see diesel being rationed on the East Coast this summer,” John Catsimatidis, the CEO of United Refining Co., told Bloomberg on Wednesday. “Right now inventories are low and we may see a shortage in coming months.”
“What we’ve seen this year has been the capabilities to turn oil into diesel and gasoline and jet fuel have diminished,” Jacques Rousseau, a managing director at Clearview Energy Partners, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview.
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Oh joy
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Isn't the answer obviously?
Electric big rigs!
Get with the green program, you racist bastards!
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I just drove from SE Texas to SE Minnesota. Got back this afternoon. Gas prices in Texas were about $4.20 a gallon. Texas was the most expensive state, but not a lot higher than the others. In Arkansas I filled up for $4.05 a gallon. And in Missouri and Iowa I saw gas occasionally at $3.99 or even $3.89, but only when I had a mostly-full tank already. I think I paid $4.09 in Missouri. It's higher in Minnesota but I haven't seen that many stations so don't have a feel for it; maybe $4.20? gasbuddy.com says it's $4.09 at Costco and Fleet Farm, and $4.24 at most other local stations in Rochester.
Most of the Texas stations had separate prices for cash and credit. Usually 10 cents difference, but sometimes 20.
Never noticed any credit/cash separation where I get gas. I mostly pay at the pump, but I would think that would be posted. I will have to look for it.
I traveled from Nevada back to Texas in early April. Texas was the cheapest by far. Gas was up near $5/gallon in Vegas. A little better in Arizona and New Mexico, but not much. Guess it depends on where you are.
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Never noticed any credit/cash separation where I get gas. I mostly pay at the pump, but I would think that would be posted. I will have to look for it.
I haven't paid attention, but I don't think I have seen the cash/credit thing here. In CA it was all over the place.
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I haven't paid attention, but I don't think I have seen the cash/credit thing here. In CA it was all over the place.
I see cash/credit prices for diesel at Pilot truck stops on I-35 in Iowa.
I remember when I was younger Standard Oil/Amoco stations has cash/credit prices on all the pumps. This is before pay at the pump was an option.
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I don't usually stop at the Pilot stations. I may have to check next time I see one.
It does make sense to do it. I just hadn't noticed it. The Buc-ee's stations give a discount for using my bank's Mastercard so I use that normally.
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I haven't paid attention, but I don't think I have seen the cash/credit thing here. In CA it was all over the place.
See it all the time in Ky
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Don't see the cash/credit thing here in NC very often. There are a few of them around, but not at the stations we frequent. I know of a Pilot on US321 south of Hickory that does that.
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Don't worry the government is going to pay for more bike lanes.
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday announced the availability of money over five years under his department’s new Safe Streets & Roads for All program.
The aim will be to provide a direct infusion of federal cash to communities that pledge to promote safety for the multiple users of a roadway, particularly pedestrians and bicyclists.
Federal data being released this week by the Transportation Department is expected to show another big jump in U.S. traffic deaths through 2021, reflecting continued risky driving that began with the coronavirus pandemic in March 2020. Fatalities among pedestrians and cyclists have been rising faster than those within vehicles.
And BTW: About that increase in risky driving. Maybe that's because the police have largely stopped pulling people over for it for, you know, reasons.
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I live just west of Austin, TX. I haven't seen any cash/credit discounts locally, but I DO know of some stations that offer a discount if you use THEIR credit card.
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I occasionally see cash v credit pricing in Virginia, but I saw it a lot more frequently in Pennsylvania when I lived there.
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$4.49 here in SW Ohio now.
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Still "only" $3.89 here in NE Oklahoma this morning.
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$5.05 at fred meyers for 87 octane ethanol
$5.50 at chevron for the same
$6.05 at local for 87 octane clear gas
~$6.10 diesel most places
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Global station down the street from me, which is generally 10 to 20 cents cheaper than the Shell and the Sunoco around the corner, just price matched them at $4.49 a gallon.
That means that Shell and Sunoco will be price jumping in a day or two.
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Whoops, pardon me...
The price at the Global, which was $4.49 a gallon when I went to work this morning, is now $4.59 a gallon.
I'm so glad that we have that selfless paragon of for the people virtue President Brandon in our corner fighting greedy big oil.
Who knows what the price might be had he not declared war on big fossil fuel, all to keep us safe and sound!
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Looks like Washington State is catching up to California:
https://twitchy.com/foundersgirl-313133/2022/05/18/record-high-gas-prices-washington-state-spots-new-digits-at-the-pump/
Interestingly, I saw a story on "working class" Mono County in CA topping $7/gal. "Working class" is a bit of s stretch. Mono includes the resort town of Mammoth, which especially in recent years, with telecommuting, is full of rich people buying $700K condos. I used to go fish in Mammoth at least once a year, and gas has always been outrageous there, a big part of it being transporting the gas there in the first place.
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Remarkably, gas here continues to hover in the $4.55ish region at the local stations. Costco is only ten cents cheaper (usually closer to twenty cents).
Diesel is about $1 higher here at around $5.60. I just saw a report that it's running $7+ in New Jersey. Transportation is just going to keep going through the roof. I was looking at maybe having to go to CA for a couple of days soon, and checking airfares, they are close to double compared to last Summer. Obviously covid fear somewhat depressed airfares last year, but double is whack.
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Greedy goddamned oil companies...
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Greedy goddamned oil companies...
Yep, we need to raise the gas tax to punish them
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That will show them!
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$5.21 for super duper unleaded.
Related note: lobster meat is $68/pound.
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I'm scared!!!!
I am flying to Iowa tomorrow to pick up my new truck. I sure hope they put a full tank of diesel in it for me!!
Then I will be in Estes Park Friday and Saturday, winter storm warning, some forecasts are for 5-8 inches of snow!
This may turn into quite the expensive adventure!
bob
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Related note: lobster meat is $68/pound.
Holy crap! Kinda sucks I'm not 1/2 mile from the ocean anymore. I used to get my lobster for free. :laugh:
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Despite the electioneering stunts by Gov. "Jabba" in Illinois of "temporarily" dropping the gas tax, most stations in this area are now up to $4.899 with one station (for the moment) already at $4.999. This shouldn't surprise anybody but that station is a BP station. [barf]
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The jump in fish prices that started when the world started to shut down was pretty dramatic.
When I was spending time with Castle Key at his place in coastal Virginia in March through May 2020 the local fish monger was having lots of problems getting fish, and what he was getting was jumping hard in price. And it's not really backed off much at all.
The price of crab meat last Christmas was just freaking eye watering.
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And, North Pacific Cod fillets are on sale at my local grocery.
Price is now $7.99 a pound on sale.
Up a dollar a pound since the last time they were on sale several weeks ago.
Sigh.
Let's go Fishy Brandon.
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$5.03 for 93 octane here today. Cost $80 to fill up the Mercedes today.
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"Mercedes"
You have a MERCEDES?
Well obviously you can afford to be taxed at 195% of your total assets, you privileged rich bastard.
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"Mercedes"
You have a MERCEDES?
Well obviously you can afford to be taxed at 195% of your total assets, you privileged rich bastard.
I buy lease trade ins at half the cost….. =D
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Holy crap! Kinda sucks I'm not 1/2 mile from the ocean anymore. I used to get my lobster for free. :laugh:
I'm only 10 miles from the ocean. Plenty of lobster here, but they are about $15/lb live.
A friend in CT sent me a photo of king crab legs for $60/lb. Guess it is good I don't like lobster or crab.
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I buy lease trade ins at half the cost….. =D
Fine! We'll tax you at 193.5%!
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Murphy's (usually the lowest around) was at $4.27 w/diesel at $4.99 when I drove by today. The Exxon & Valerjo (sp) were less at $4.19.
Watching a bit of Hannity this evening, he mentioned that gas rationing was being discussed "at the highest levels of government". Wonder what they're gonna say when I show up with six 5 gallon cans to fill. Mowing my yard takes a lot of gas. (30 gal is about 1/2 what we use per year).
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It was still $3.89 a gallon for regular unleaded North of Tulsa yesterday. $3.92 in Tulsa.
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I think this admin put the names of the stupidest people they could find in a hat and just started pulling them out and putting them in charge. We are headed to $10 plus a gallon.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/05/19/manchin-exposes-insane-biden-plan-on-oil-leases-during-haaland-testimony-n567194
Make sure to watch all the short videos.
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I think this admin put the names of the stupidest people they could find in a hat and just started pulling them out and putting them in charge. We are headed to $10 plus a gallon.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/05/19/manchin-exposes-insane-biden-plan-on-oil-leases-during-haaland-testimony-n567194
Make sure to watch all the short videos.
The oil companies need to be punished for this.............getting out
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I think this admin put the names of the stupidest people they could find in a hat and just started pulling them out and putting them in charge. We are headed to $10 plus a gallon.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/05/19/manchin-exposes-insane-biden-plan-on-oil-leases-during-haaland-testimony-n567194
Make sure to watch all the short videos.
She must have gone to school with Kamala Harris. I wonder what her student loan debt is? :laugh:
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WATCH: Sen. Manchin asks Interior Secretary Deb Haaland about memo cancelling oil drilling leases.
MANCHIN: "It looks like you all are going to shut everything down."
HAALAND: “I am sorry. I am sitting in this hearing..."
MANCHIN: "My God."
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1527411444035244039
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Nope! Nope nope nope! Not the administration driving up gas prices! That's a chimera to protect the greedy oil companies!
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Meanwhile at the Dept of "Energy"
The Department of Energy said Thursday it will release $3.5 billion to groups developing direct air capture and other technologies that remove carbon dioxide, which when released into the atmosphere causes global warming.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/05/20/biden-dept-of-energy-investing-3-5-billion-on-machines-they-hope-will-do-the-job-of-trees/
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I just put $45.01 of regular, the "cheap stuff", in my ¼ full 2013 Ford Escape, WTF?!?!?!?!
(Shreveport, LA, Raceway at Buncombe and the bypass)
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Meanwhile at the Dept of "Energy"
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/05/20/biden-dept-of-energy-investing-3-5-billion-on-machines-they-hope-will-do-the-job-of-trees/
Air capture on a terraforming scale is a scam.
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$227.01.
Had to fill the gas cans. Hit the $75 mark 3 times. The fourth time was disappointing - pump shut off at $2.01. 53.425 gals at 4.249/gal.
That may be enough to keep the lawn under control for the rest of this year, but I doubt it.
I may end up doing some controlled burns this year.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1528712761554903040
Jackass.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1528712761554903040
Jackass.
Let them eat cake buy an electric car
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E-15 is back under $4 at $3.979
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$3.89 yesterday afternoon.
RBOB spot is at $3.81 this morning.
Brad
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$227.01.
Had to fill the gas cans. Hit the $75 mark 3 times. The fourth time was disappointing - pump shut off at $2.01. 53.425 gals at 4.249/gal.
That may be enough to keep the lawn under control for the rest of this year, but I doubt it.
I may end up doing some controlled burns this year.
If I was using that much gasoline to mow, I'd be checking at a farmers coop type establishment to buy dyed off-road gasoline.
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If I was using that much gasoline to mow, I'd be checking at a farmers coop type establishment to buy dyed off-road gasoline.
I don't believe I've ever seen offroad gas around my AO, or I would have bought some. Offroad diesel is already not that common. I have to drive 45 min for it. Ethanol free gas is a lot more common.
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$227.01.
Had to fill the gas cans. Hit the $75 mark 3 times. The fourth time was disappointing - pump shut off at $2.01. 53.425 gals at 4.249/gal.
That may be enough to keep the lawn under control for the rest of this year, but I doubt it.
I may end up doing some controlled burns this year.
At some point, would it be cheaper to get a cow and deal with the manure?
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At some point, would it be cheaper to get a cow and deal with the manure?
Goats are probably easier and don't mind eating the weeds that cows won't touch. I've been thinking about a couple of wether goats to handle some of the stuff I have to use the brush hog, rather than the lawn mower on.
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Oh, by the way, gas is supposed to be under $3/gal.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/05/23/ouch-ron-klains-2021-tweet-bragging-about-gas-prices-soon-tumbling-below-3-makes-new-brutally-hilarious-rounds-on-twitter/
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I saw $4.15 at the station near my house. That's a record, I've never seen over $4 gasoline in the KC area before.
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I don't believe I've ever seen offroad gas around my AO, or I would have bought some. Offroad diesel is already not that common. I have to drive 45 min for it. Ethanol free gas is a lot more common.
I do live in corn and soy country, probably no more than 20 miles from any given direction where one can get dyed off road fuels. Also about every gas station will have some sort of ethanol free gasoline for sale.
I only mow 15k sq feet of turf, on a rainy year when I mow twice a week in May and June, I might use 8 gallons of fuel between my rider and push mower. Normally I around 5 gallons. The 14hp Kawasaki engine in my John Deere rider sips the fuel.
I almost bought an 15 acre acreage when I was looking for a new residence, I didn't because it needed way too much money thrown at it to make it habitable. If I would of bought it I would of gotten a 100 gallon fuel tank and had the Coop deliver off road fuel for on acreage use.
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I hope we don't have a real emergency come up. He's going to tap the diesel reserve next.
I use about 4-6 gallons doing my yard and driveway. I need to get some more today I'll see what it's going for.
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Up to $4.65 at the Global down the street.
The Shell and Sunoco are going to be more expensive.
I'm thinking mid to high $5 a gallon here in Northern Virginia by Labor Day.
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I almost bought an 15 acre acreage when I was looking for a new residence, I didn't because it needed way too much money thrown at it to make it habitable. If I would of bought it I would of gotten a 100 gallon fuel tank and had the Coop deliver off road fuel for on acreage use.
I should probably look into this.
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I should probably look into this.
I was thinking about it at my place, but I only use maybe 150-200 gallons of gasoline a year for equipment and ATVs, and didn't want to be maintaining the tank, worrying about condensation, etc. I just keep four 5 gallon gas jugs and four 5 gallon diesel jugs, and just fill them as needed when I'm doing a trip to the offroad diesel place.
If I had a bigger tractor and used it more than the 4-5 hours a week that I do, I might have considered a diesel tank.
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I should probably look into this.
Check with your state, you may need to apply for a permit with the state to purchase tax exempt fuel. If 100 gallons is too little of an amount for a delivery, you could look into a 100-200 gallon tank on a trailer and go get it.
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Still hanging in at $3.86 for regular.
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$ 4.79 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle. Up $0.40/gallon in the past two weeks.
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Yep, the Sunoco station near my house is at $4.79.
My GOD I'm so glad that the Democratic party is protecting me from ultra high inflation and ultra high gasoline prices!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
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Yep, the Sunoco station near my house is at $4.79.
My GOD I'm so glad that the Democratic party is protecting me from ultra high inflation and ultra high gasoline prices!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
Look, you deplorable insurrectionist, quit your whining and embrace "the incredible transition." If you won't get rid of your dinosaur car and buy an electric vehicle, that's your problem.
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WAY TO TELL ME OFF, BENDON!
:P
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Yep, the Sunoco station near my house is at $4.79.
My GOD I'm so glad that the Democratic party is protecting me from ultra high inflation and ultra high gasoline prices!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
At least they are consistent and we can know what to expect with this crowd.
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On a local forum I'm on people are reporting stations out of gas.
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On a local forum I'm on people are reporting stations out of gas.
So? How does that affect you and your electric unicorn powered car, comrade?
=D
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Wonder if I can put the cats to work on a cat sized hamster wheel under the hood?
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Wonder if I can put the cats to work on a cat sized hamster wheel under the hood?
You would then be the first person in the known universe to make a cat do anything it was told to do.
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You would then be the first person in the known universe to make a cat do anything it was told to do.
I used to have a cat that would play fetch.
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I saw diesel yesterday for 4.959 in Kensett, IA.
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$4.70 gas / $5.60 diesel here.
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$4.09 for regular here.
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I used to have a cat that would play fetch.
My ex and I had a cat that would, without protest, take pills. Three treats and 1 pill in the palm of your hand and he would down them all.
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Have several that will go for walks with me around the neighborhood.
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If I was using that much gasoline to mow, I'd be checking at a farmers coop type establishment to buy dyed off-road gasoline.
I'll have to check into that. There's a coop just behind the Goodwill store.
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$4.249 yesterday at Charlottesville Costco.
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You would then be the first person in the known universe to make a cat do anything it was told to do.
At Disney World a quite few years ago, we saw a trained animal act. I don't remember a lot about it, except that one of the performers was a housecat. I was amazed that they could get a cat to do anything.
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S4.34 at Sam's
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Down from $4.49 to $4.35 here in SW Ohio today.
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$3.89 for regular yesterday afternoon.
Brad
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Just did the drive from IA to NV. The cheapest diesel I bought was 5.099 in Nebraska and the most expensive I bought was 5.789 in Green River, Colorado.
bob
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I filled up my truck yesterday with the cheapest watered-down gas I could find. $4.04 a gallon for E15. Cost me $103.75 and the gauge wasn't even on "E" yet. (I paid over $5 a gallon last week for some non-ethanol premium for the small engines, but I only got 2 gallons)
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Seeing $4.79 around town
$4.44 at Sams
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$4.79 here now as well.
Freakin' Brandon...
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Low test has actually gone down over the last week or so; it's down to $4.13 as of last evening.
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Low test has actually gone down over the last week or so; it's down to $4.13 as of last evening.
The calm before the bore hogging...
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$4.19 so $101.52 to fill up and I still had six gallons left.
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Up 30 cents today to 4.59, 5.29 for the no ethanol premium that my Kawasaki C14 needs.
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Gotta take another cross-country trip; this time to Alabama. We'll be driving the Honda, which gets pretty good gas mileage but not as good as the Ford Focus. I just topped off the tank with E15 for $4.04 a gallon; that's the cheapest price in town. Most gas here is about 4.25 for regular. Really not looking forward to this trip, and the gas prices are a big part of it.
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Up $0.40 here today. From $4.39 to $4.79 just like that. :facepalm:
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Spent time in six states this weekend. Lowest I saw was $3.79 but I have a feeling that price wasn’t current. Lowest I believe was $4.07. Most was ~$4.29.
Came home to $4.75-$4.89.
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Just for kicks, I looked at California on Gasbuddy. Well over half the state is over $6. Some places are over $7. The places under $6 are closer to $6 than to $5.
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$4.09 tonight. Couple of store around pushing $4.30. One place across town at $3.99 but not worth the drive to save two bucks.
Brad
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$4.99 around town now
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Stores on the main drag near me went up thirty cents yesterday.
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I paid 4.99 for regular in Metropolis, IL yesterday. That's the most I've ever paid in my life, even in Hawaii. (FJB!, but part of that is probably just Illinois) It was a little cheaper when I got to Kentucky, and now in NE Alabama it's about 4.39 to 4.59
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$4.84 a gallon at the Sunoco near my house. The other stations will be following along in a few days.
And the price of both crude and RBOB continues to move higher, even after OPEC said it would expand production to take pressure off the markets.
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A couple of days ago, stations in this area jumped to $5.099 !! :facepalm: [barf]
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Up 30 cents today to 4.59, 5.29 for the no ethanol premium that my Kawasaki C14 needs.
$4.69 for the 89 octane mid grade grade unleaded I filled my BMW RT with yesterday. The nonethanol was $5.09.
BMW says I can run 87 octane with max 15% ethanol but my preference is nonethanol
I couldn't tell any loss of performance but I'm not running it hard.
Regular unleaded was $4.299.
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If I use non-ethanol, I notice a very nice boost in mileage. Not really performance, but hey... Likely 10% or more...
When I was driving over the road, if I had a chance to fill with standard diesel, not biodiesel, I would also get a nice boost in fuel economy.
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If I use non-ethanol, I notice a very nice boost in mileage. Not really performance, but hey... Likely 10% or more...
When I was driving over the road, if I had a chance to fill with standard diesel, not biodiesel, I would also get a nice boost in fuel economy.
Advocates for ethanol dilution of gasoline claim there's only a 3% loss of fuel economy . . . they lie.
When mandatory ethanol dilution was first phased in, both I and ALL my colleagues - at least, those paying attention - found roughly a 10% fuel economy penalty.
I WISH I could get undiluted gasoline locally. :mad:
In any case, during my last fill up I was soaked $4.199 for regular. I saw diesel was over $5. FJB.
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...aaaaaaand RBOB just hit $4.30.
Brad
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Chevron CEO says there may never be another refinery built in the US.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-ceo-oil-refinery-built-u-s (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-ceo-oil-refinery-built-u-s)
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Chevron CEO says there may never be another refinery built in the US.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-ceo-oil-refinery-built-u-s (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-ceo-oil-refinery-built-u-s)
Frigin' big oil! This is why our leader has to go to Arabia to beg for oil. If only these evil oil tycoons would do what the government over-regulates, we wouldn't be in this fix!
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Low test here went up again - from $4.13 to $4.45. Non-ethanol is available at the same station, for an additional $0.50 per gallon.
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Chevron CEO says there may never be another refinery built in the US.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-ceo-oil-refinery-built-u-s (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/chevron-ceo-oil-refinery-built-u-s)
"The Biden administration has sought to ease the rising prices by releasing a record 180 million barrels from the already-depleated Strategic Petroleum Reserve over six months starting in March, and by urging both foreign and domestic producers to increase output."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The Biden mantra...
"Please produce more oil.... SO WE CAN TELL EVERYONE WHAT *expletive deleted*ing EVIL BASTARDS YOU ARE FOR DESTROYING OUR PLANET! WE DECLARE WAR ON YOU!"
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Frigin' big oil! This is why our leader has to go to Arabia to beg for oil. If only these evil oil tycoons would do what the government over-regulates, we wouldn't be in this fix!
Now now, everyone knows that Uncle Joe is a friend of the average man who feels your pain at the pump... (and revels in it).
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Even if it means higher gas for me, I really hope the Arabs tell Brandon to *expletive deleted*ck right off.
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Even if it means higher gas for me, I really hope the Arabs tell Brandon to *expletive deleted*ck right off.
They did, repeatedly, last year. At one point the Saudi oil minister apparently refused to take Biden's phone call where Biden was going to delivery yet another completely racist plea for the apparently less human brown Saudis to pump more oil so the more human white Americans wouldn't have to pay so much (and we wouldn't produce more here, because, you know, I'm Joe Biden, and I'm going to DESTROY fossil fuel!)
Hell, last summer the Saudi oil minister said there was an easy solution to American needing more oil... we could pump it ourselves. What did the Biden administration do in response? Made it even harder for American producers to... produce.
But of course Joe Butt.... Butter... Buttery... Buttinbutt... whatever his name is... has the solution... Just buy an electric car! Electricity grows on trees! It will be free!
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But of course Joe Butt.... Butter... Buttery... Buttinbutt... whatever his name is... has the solution... Just buy an electric car! Electricity grows on trees! It will be free!
I'm still looking for a free electric car tree let alone a free electricity tree to plug to it into.
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I'm still looking for a free electric car tree let alone a free electricity tree to plug to it into.
That sounds like straight white gay hating racist talk! You're a horrible person for doubting the Joes!
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Low test here went up again - from $4.13 to $4.45. Non-ethanol is available at the same station, for an additional $0.50 per gallon.
And yet, the cost of producing ethanol is higher than the cost of refining oil into gasoline - ethanol-diluted gas drove prices UP when it was introduced.
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And yet, the cost of producing ethanol is higher than the cost of refining oil into gasoline - ethanol-diluted gas drove prices UP when it was introduced.
Government thumb is on the scale via subsidies.
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I always fill the cars up on the first of the month. When I filled the first one, it was 4.74. when I came back 10 minutes later to fill up the second one, it was 4.79.
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My wife filled up at the Marysville Costco today at $ 4.89/gallon. I filled up today at a Chevron station in Marysville five miles from Costco at $ 5.45/gallon. Fortunately, I was filling up the Zuma 125, so it only cost me a bit over $ 6.00.
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Well, I have a source for most of the rear end for a trike "motorcycle."
Probably going to try to set it up to have "wheel hub motors" to drive the thing.
And a bunch of batteries. Will probably start with some big lead-acid suckers, but as I have the time/cash, will move to lithium ion...
First I gotta move the damn milling machine from in front of my garage door, while getting my van in shape for an interstate drive...
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The lying sacks of trash in the EPA and the Brandon administration gotta lie.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/corn-lobby-wins-big-as-epa-finalizes-record-ethanol-blending-requirement (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/corn-lobby-wins-big-as-epa-finalizes-record-ethanol-blending-requirement)
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$5.37 for 87 oct in Mesa AZ
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Some place near San Francisco is charging $10/gal.
That's like from dystopian future movie from the 70s where they thought they were way exaggerating that possibility for artistic effect. Now we're living it.
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Anyone play Deus Ex? A dystopian computer game set in 2052?
One level featured a gas station. =(
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VYJHzF5136Y/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Gas prices are actually cheaper during the apocalypse
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Gas prices are actually cheaper during the apocalypse
Uh . . . with doddering old President Hunter Biden in office, maybe they're selling it by the pint in 2052?
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$4.469 for E-15.
$5.209 for 91 no E.
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Joe, The Corn Pop Slayer, Biden is on the case
With Solyndra part ][
Gas should start coming down in a couple of hours
:facepalm:
Biden will take executive action to ramp up domestic energy production (no, not of oil & gas)
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/06/06/biden-will-take-executive-action-to-ramp-up-domestic-energy-production-no-not-of-oil-gas/
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Joe, The Corn Pop Slayer, Biden is on the case
With Solyndra part ][
Gas should start coming down in a couple of hours
:facepalm:
Biden will take executive action to ramp up domestic energy production (no, not of oil & gas)
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/06/06/biden-will-take-executive-action-to-ramp-up-domestic-energy-production-no-not-of-oil-gas/
Will "The Big Guy" be getting his 10% I wonder? Will Hunter be involved in any negotiations with the Chinese commies?
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E-10 is $5.049 this AM, finally broke $5 here.
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$4.49 for E10
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$4.89 here now. I read this morning that we will likely break $5 average locally by the end of the week.
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Still $4.69 on average in the Hickory, NC area, though one Murphy station we buy gas at bumped up four cents overnight to $4.68.
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5.199 here in W. Michigan today.
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$4.96 at the Sunoco near my house.
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I guess we didn't last till the end of the week. Gasbuddy shows that we broke $5 most everywhere first thing this morning.
"The best economy in the history of the United States!"
- Brandon
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July 2008 price of oil hit $147 a barrel and national average at the pump was around $4 per gallon.
Why is $120 barrel oil equating to near $5 per gallon pump prices?
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July 2008 price of oil hit $147 a barrel and national average at the pump was around $4 per gallon.
Why is $120 barrel oil equating to near $5 per gallon pump prices?
Inflation impacts oil refiners as it does everyone else. Their costs do not remain constant. Neither does the significant regulatory burden they work under.
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Up to $5.09 here in SW Ohio. A gas station down the road still had it for $4.69 and the line was over a block long waiting to fill up. Needless to say they emptied the stations tanks. First sign of desperation here…
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90+% of the stations here still sitting at $4.99. The rest a little under.
Seems like no one wants to be first in town to go over the $5 mark.
Got a feeling once someone does go over the $5 mark it will open the flood gates
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Filled up with regular yesterday at a Texaco station for $4.49. The local Texaco station - always more expensive - had it for $4.69.
I haven't seen any of the "I DID THAT" Biden stickers on the pumps locally, but there was evidence that some pumps HAD been so adorned and the stickers had been (mostly) removed.
Diesel was over $5. Anyone know what furnace oil is going for? Years ago I talked to a guy who had a Mercedes diesel, and he used to run furnace oil in it - according to him, the car ran fine and it was a lot cheaper than diesel.
FJB
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Filled up with regular yesterday at a Texaco station for $4.49. The local Texaco station - always more expensive - had it for $4.69.
I haven't seen any of the "I DID THAT" Biden stickers on the pumps locally, but there was evidence that some pumps HAD been so adorned and the stickers had been (mostly) removed.
Diesel was over $5. Anyone know what furnace oil is going for? Years ago I talked to a guy who had a Mercedes diesel, and he used to run furnace oil in it - according to him, the car ran fine and it was a lot cheaper than diesel.
FJB
Fuel oil will about the same price as diesel minus the road use taxes.
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Welp... I just got word that my employer wants me to move offices, which will make my daily commute about 5 times farther each day (about 4 miles round trip to 22 or so).
I'm not sure that I'm willing to do that.
So I think I'll be looking for a new job. Not sure if with my current company or with someone else.
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Welp... I just got word that my employer wants me to move offices, which will make my daily commute about 5 times farther each day (about 4 miles round trip to 22 or so).
I'm not sure that I'm willing to do that.
So I think I'll be looking for a new job. Not sure if with my current company or with someone else.
They seem to like doing that.
In 2018 I got moved to downtown Tulsa. I had been working out of an office 2 miles from my house for 13 years. The Tulsa office was 48 miles from home.
I went from taking 5 days to burn a gallon of gas to burning 5 gallons a day. And, there were people there.
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I've been work from home since the start of covid. There are some impending changes at the company: I hope I'm not going to have to start going back into the office. Too much fuel and time spent for no value realized.
I did some monkey math about my secondary evening teaching gig. Teaching a full semester course will cost me over $200 in fuel at current prices. The math still makes sense, but that's not a trivial cost of doing business.
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Yep. Maybe it's time to seriously think about pulling up stakes, moving further south in Virginia to near my friends, and getting a remote job.
But, given the projects I'm working on right now, and the clearances I have, I literally cannot work from home.
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Welp... I just got word that my employer wants me to move offices, which will make my daily commute about 5 times farther each day (about 4 miles round trip to 22 or so).
I'm not sure that I'm willing to do that.
So I think I'll be looking for a new job. Not sure if with my current company or with someone else.
That sucks - I know. During the tech melt down, my employer told me my permanent office was being moved from the main center to the plant, adding around 25 miles a day to my round trip commute. Since there were layoffs going on (tech meltdown, remember) as unhappy as I was, I decided to keep my mouth shut, since I was still going to have a permanent office - and a job. Stayed at that location around 5 years before I was able to transfer to another division and move back to the main center. (Where instead of being in a cube farm, I got an office with a door. =D )
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RBOB spot is creeping down a bit this morning. Closed yesterday at $4.19. Currently sitting at $4.06. I want to be optimistic that it's the beginning of a trend but reason tells me it's profit taking and the price will begin to tick back up by day's end.
Brad
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RBOB spot is creeping down a bit this morning. Closed yesterday at $4.19. Currently sitting at $4.06. I want to be optimistic that it's the beginning of a trend but reason tells me it's profit taking and the price will begin to tick back up by day's end.
Brad
Oh please...
take a look at the performance over the past several months.
Every time there's a slight fall in crude, RBOB, or both, it's followed by a strong panic-monkey fueled price run up.
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I turned down the regional director job since they were thinking that I would have to be in an office in downtown Seattle a minimum of three days per week, and the additional pay did not offset the 90 mile and four hour per day roundtrip commute. I told them to talk to me again if it could be one day a week downtown and I would think about it.
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Filled up with regular yesterday at a Texaco station for $4.49. The local Texaco station - always more expensive - had it for $4.69.
I haven't seen any of the "I DID THAT" Biden stickers on the pumps locally, but there was evidence that some pumps HAD been so adorned and the stickers had been (mostly) removed.
Diesel was over $5. Anyone know what furnace oil is going for? Years ago I talked to a guy who had a Mercedes diesel, and he used to run furnace oil in it - according to him, the car ran fine and it was a lot cheaper than diesel.
FJB
Furnace oil should be the same thing as off-road diesel (which would be fine to run other than the possibility of getting caught by DOT) and prices similarly but I’d be wary about the quality of it. Fresh diesel of either kind should be trustworthy to run.
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https://abc13.com/houston-refinery-lyondellbasell-news-closing-in/11777968/
This ain't gonna help.
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https://abc13.com/houston-refinery-lyondellbasell-news-closing-in/11777968/
This ain't gonna help.
Doubtful that there is any replacement capacity coming online to offset that closure.
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https://abc13.com/houston-refinery-lyondellbasell-news-closing-in/11777968/
This ain't gonna help.
Well, it is an established petroleum refinery, some existing refiner should snatch it up to increase their own refining capacity.
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Sitting in the truck yesterday afternoon, taking my last break (@ 1535) before clocking out (@ 1600). Looked at the Murphy stations' sign - $4.55. Looked away for a few minutes, glanced at the sign as I was getting out of the truck - gas had jumped to $4.69.
The tank was reading 1/4 full. Hit the $75 limit. Ran the card again and put another $11.01 in the tank.
By being real careful with the throttle I've gotten the fuel mileage up to ~ 18.5mpg. I'm pissing off a lot of people on the two lane road (1 each direction) I travel to/from work. There are 3 places it's almost safe to pass, and the other travelers aren't liking the 45mph I usually drive nowadays. But I can get 2 weeks out of a tank.
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Basically, furnace diesel is the old regular diesel, before they messed with it. And if you can find #2 diesel, without all the "biodiesel" stuff, etc., fill up.
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I'm both glad and hurt that my station doesn't have a $75 shutoff. Hitting over $100 sucks.
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Well, it is an established petroleum refinery, some existing refiner should snatch it up to increase their own refining capacity.
I’m sure the feds will have some ridiculous regulatory burden in place to ensure that does not happen because that’s what Leviathan is good at.
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Just had a talk with my boss. She said she's going to have a chat with our PM and tell him that she has no problems with me staying in my current office and that it would be "in the program's best interests" to not pull me to the new building. That would be very cool if he agrees to it. If not, that's when I seriously look at leaving the program.
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I’m sure the feds will have some ridiculous regulatory burden in place to ensure that does not happen because that’s what Leviathan is good at.
The refinery should be current in all the permits, I'm not sure the fed process on change of ownership with an active permit related to oil.
In the work I do for the EPA in my niche area, it's just a matter of submitting a few pages of paperwork to explain the change of ownership.
I'm guessing it's an old refinery that is probably years behind on necessary maintenance or upgrades. Other words, all the goody is gone out of it.
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I'm guessing it's an old refinery that is probably years behind on necessary maintenance or upgrades. Other words, all the goody is gone out of it.
That's my guess too. If it were profitable to run (especially at today's prices) the company that owns it would probably be trying to keep it operational.
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The refinery should be current in all the permits,
DC: Be a shame if some new regulations suddenly appeared. hahahahahaha
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DC: Are they now? New regulations coming right up.
They wouldn't even have to come up with new regulations. Just cancel one or more existing existing necessary permits.
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"EVs will save us from our current high gas prices!!!!!" (In 2030, hopefully, if we get enough charging stations built).
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/09/pete-buttigieg-accidentally-admits-evs-are-not-a-short-term-answer-to-the-gas-crisis/
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And when do they start building the nuc plants to power them?
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And when do they start building the nuc plants to power them?
Solar is technically nuclear
http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00170.htm
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Maybe they can build mini suns over all the solar fields so the power is always flowing.
Oh, I know, we could cover all of flyover land with solar panels and strip mined batteries and we would have plenty of power. We wouldn't have any food so we would have to eat our EV's.
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Oh, I know, we could cover all of flyover land with solar panels and strip mined batteries and we would have plenty of power. We wouldn't have any food so we would have to eat our EV's.
You can buy food at the grocery, duh!
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$ 5.09/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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Just saw my first $5+ price -- $5.09 at the Shell station near my house.
The Sunoco across the street is still $4.99, but my guess is by tomorrow afternoon it will match the Shell.
And this isn't over yet, folks. It's going to get a lot worse.
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High prices are hitting law enforcement too:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/michigan-sheriff-limit-responses-gas-prices
I wonder how long before the fire department starts picking and choosing their responses.
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High prices are hitting law enforcement too:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/michigan-sheriff-limit-responses-gas-prices
I wonder how long before the fire department starts picking and choosing their responses.
We are a volunteer department here. There are a couple of people that will fill them up when we run out of money but this fall will suck.
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$5.09/gal and $106 to fill up the truck this morning. I needed some ethanol free gas too, and that's up to $5.49/gal.
You suck, Brandon.
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5.689 for diesel in Pahrump. 30-50 cents higher in Las Vegas. 110 dollars to fill up the truck @ not quite half empty. I try to fill up around the half empty mark to keep from having to swipe my card 3 or 4 times. :mad:
bob
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ONLY $4.599 at the cheapest place around here. $20 to fill the mower for the weekend. Lucky for me my truck broke down Monday and I just got it done last night. Saved some gas but almost $300 in parts and three long afternoons wrenching.
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Biden: Exxon. Start investing. Start paying your taxes. Thanks.”
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$114 for 22.5 gallons.
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Prices are nuts around here. They range from $5.089 to $5.399. Fortunately, the majority are closer to that bottom - but for how long isn't known. [popcorn]
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I turned down the regional director job since they were thinking that I would have to be in an office in downtown Seattle a minimum of three days per week, and the additional pay did not offset the 90 mile and four hour per day roundtrip commute. I told them to talk to me again if it could be one day a week downtown and I would think about it.
What? You have that reversed! You MUST be in the office FOUR days a week, only out 1 day! We simply can't function in more of a remote environment than that.
Didn't the pandemic teach you anything about office dynamics? The old ways MUST BE RETURNED! WORKERS MUST BE UNDER THE CRUSHING GAZE OF THEIR MANAGERS AT ALL TIMES! OTHERWISE HIERARCHY WILL COLLAPSE!!!
I've seen (I'm sure we all have) a number of articles over the past few months about employers trying to force people back into the the offices full time with varying degrees of success and more than a bit of employee rebellion.
My situation is a bit different -- I MUST be in a dedicated, secure office, but I can be in any number of dedicated secure offices, including the one 2 miles from my house. Yet the PM/APM apparently think I'm incapable of doing my job unless I'm sitting with the rest of my coworkers.
Somehow they apparently view all of the work I did over the previous two years, the accolades I received from my peers, the problems I solved for the program, the immense amount of work I did, as a fluke. That's the only thing I can figure.
They either need to refigure that, or they'll lose me, and my direct boss, who said she is going to bat for me on this, says that as far as she's concerned, I'm a core employee who needs to be retained at all costs.
We'll see if her management agrees.
Yeah, I'm a little salty about this.
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Apparently we're suppose to choose between cheap gas and democracy
Serious question for Republicans and independents: What would you rather have, $2.50/gallon gas or a democracy?
— Andy Ostroy (@AndyOstroy) June 11, 2022
Claims it was bait. You decide.
I think it was a case of an idiot trying to sound smart
Proud Democrat Andy Ostroy REKT so much for asking if people want cheap gas OR democracy he claims it was ‘bait’ … gets REKT again
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/13/proud-democrat-andy-ostroy-rekt-so-much-for-asking-if-people-want-cheap-gas-or-democracy-he-claims-it-was-bait-gets-rekt-again/
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https://www.thegazette.com/news/police-say-iowa-city-woman-offered-sex-for-gasoline/
Police say Iowa City woman offered sex for gasoline
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I just now bought four sacks of Quickcrete at the local hardware store for $38 instead of driving ~60 miles round trip to Home Despot and paying $24, because three gallons of gas = $15.
This is the first time since I've been driving that I've started doing math on the gas delta.
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$4.45 per gallon at the Buc-ees near me. Right on the Gulf Coast. Usually one of the cheaper prices around.
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Dropped to $4.55 from around $4.66 this week. Color me shocked and amazed. Don't expect it to last, however.
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In San Diego right now. We filled up at a little town called Alpine on I-8, about 30 miles shy of San Diego proper. $7 a gallon. Prior to that we filled up in Yuma, AZ, for something around $5.40 a gallon, I don't remember exactly. Both of those were for premium though.
Regardless of CA gas prices, we're keeping the car topped off so that if things really go sideways while we're out here, we have gas to get back home to Phoenix.
Judging by the number of homeless people living in cars right off the beach here, I think CA is one more global catastrophe away from being a cascaded secondary catastrophe. Well... worse than it already is, I mean.
It's pretty amazing how little ICE traffic there is here, in the little enclave of Mission Beach. Lots of e-bikes, lots of rental scooters that get heavily used, a disproportionate number of Teslas to what I'm used to seeing in AZ.
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I just now bought four sacks of Quickcrete at the local hardware store for $38 instead of driving ~60 miles round trip to Home Despot and paying $24, because three gallons of gas = $15.
This is the first time since I've been driving that I've started doing math on the gas delta.
Been doing that myself lately. A dollar now only buys me about 6.6 miles in my little econobox, and less than three miles in my pickup.
I mow a fair amount of grass - even that's starting to add up.
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The White House has unveiled a new plan to deal with rising gas costs by installing a wacky inflatable tube man in front of every price sign across the country.
"Wow, look how much fun it is to go to the gas station now!" said Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. "These wacky guys are going to turn frowns upside-down at pumps everywhere. Sure is hard to be depressed about canceling your family vacation when those arms are flailing in the wind!"
White House Attempts To Distract From High Gas Prices By Putting Up Wacky Inflatable Tube Men In Front Of Price Signs
https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-attempts-to-distract-from-high-gas-prices-by-putting-up-wacky-inflatable-tube-men-in-front-of-price-signs
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White House Attempts To Distract From High Gas Prices By Putting Up Wacky Inflatable Tube Men In Front Of Price Signs
https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-attempts-to-distract-from-high-gas-prices-by-putting-up-wacky-inflatable-tube-men-in-front-of-price-signs
With the idiot administration we currently suffer under in office, I had to check twice to make sure that was a Babylon Bee story.
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With the idiot administration we currently suffer under in office, I had to check twice to make sure that was a Babylon Bee story.
Well, yeah.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.the-sun.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2021%2F08%2FNINTCHDBPICT000672364617.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
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$5.09 yesterday, $5.15 today. Though I was still able to get it for $4.99 at Costco this morning. I doubt that will last till tomorrow though.
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If he doesn't have any knee pads to take with him I'm sure ______ can spare a set or two
Joe Biden to visit Middle East allies amid strains
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61803192
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Dropped to $4.55 from around $4.66 this week. Color me shocked and amazed. Don't expect it to last, however.
Amazingly, it dropped another three cents to $4.52 at our go-to station this week. Color me even more shocked and amazed.
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As I suspected, the Sunoco station is now at $5.09, matching the Shell across the street.
And the Global around the corner from them is up to $4.99.
The Exxon from hell near my office that I've talked about at various times is up to, IIRC, $5.69 for regular unleaded.
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It’s going to be ok. Brandon is essentially threatening to nationalize refineries today so I am sure that they will make more gas.
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It’s going to be ok. Brandon is essentially threatening to nationalize refineries today so I am sure that they will make more gas.
More taxes
More regulations
Then suspend their license for some obscure environmental reg
Then haul the CEO before congress to grill him on why they're hurting the American people
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It’s going to be ok. Brandon is essentially threatening to nationalize refineries today so I am sure that they will make more gas.
He going to do that with an executive order?
I haven't seen any details. My understanding is the crude oil market is high. Refineries making more gasoline won't necessarily lower prices.
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Something tells me that the Supreme Court would knock that down so quickly that Biden wouldn't even have time to have some kids rub his hairy legs.
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First he blames Putin
Then he blames the oil companies
Then says he going to punish the oil companies
Biden threatens oil companies with 'emergency powers' if they don't boost supply amid inflation spike
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-threatens-oil-companies-emergency-powers-supply-inflation
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Political theater. The president needs to be seen by the public as addressing their concerns about fuel prices.
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Meanwhile
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1537049590251147264/photo/1
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Did a 3 state loop ride on my RT today. I topped off with corn free premium @ $5.39. Regular was $4.49 at that station and that price was fairly common in rural NE oklahoma. Saw $4.56 to $4.63 in SW Missouri and SE Kansas
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Once you hit Pittsburg you were only 40 miles or so from the house. It was $4.69 on the Kansas side up here today. I need to run to Butler in a few days and will see what it is there.
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Biden Energy Secretary’s Message to Americans Suffering Because of High Gas Prices: Brazilians Pay the Same Amount For Gas (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/biden-energy-secretarys-message-americans-suffering-high-gas-prices-brazilians-pay-amount-gas-video/
“If you were in Brazil, you’d be paying the same amount for gas…” Granholm said.
The video is just a few seconds. It is pretty much as bad as it sounds.
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The Biden admin: It's the oil companies fault for not drilling
Also the Biden Admin: We don't need no stinking drilling we need more refinery capacity
Also Also the Biden Admin: You can't build no stinking refineries
Jean-Pierre on drilling more in the US: 'We don't need to do that'
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/jean-pierre-drilling-more-us-we-dont-need-that
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We're all glad the adults are in charge, and have restored normalcy and norms and normativity.
Also, no mean tweets, just drag queens reading us story-books.
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Once you hit Pittsburg you were only 40 miles or so from the house. It was $4.69 on the Kansas side up here today. I need to run to Butler in a few days and will see what it is there.
Didn't make it any farther North than Baxter Springs. Haven't been to Pittsburg in year's. Made a few late night trouble calls to the telco CO there.
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We're all glad the adults are in charge, and have restored normalcy and norms and normativity.
Also, no mean tweets, just drag queens reading us story-books.
They are not reading them to us, they are reading them to 2nd graders. (not sure if they are still wearing strap-on dildos while doing so or not)
It does beg the question, why are we not reading story-books to 2nd graders. And would we even be allowed to? Maybe you have to be an obvious pervert to be allowed access to kids.
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It does beg the question, why are we not reading story-books to 2nd graders. And would we even be allowed to? Maybe you have to be an obvious pervert to be allowed access to kids.
Sounds about right for 2022.
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^^^My wife tells me that her school district welcomes volunteers to do things like reading to the kids. There is probably nothing stopping you from volunteering.
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I was just talking to my cow guy, who drove to my place from the gas station. $175 in his little one ton diesel before the pump shut off, and he was only 2/3 full.
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Oil and RBOB are in a huge fall right now.
Crude is down over $6 a barrel on recession fears, according to CNBC.
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Oil and RBOB are in a huge fall right now.
Crude is down over $6 a barrel on recession fears, according to CNBC.
Praise be to Biden, his plan is working to lower gas prices.
Just required wrecking the economy
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Sorry if this might have been posted before. It's an article from some greedy, oil industry types, explaining why lowering prices is easier to talk about than to actually do.
https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/refining-capacity-101-what-understand-demanding-restarts
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Page not found errors. The disinformation has been removed, apparently.
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Edited the above link. Hopefully, it will work now.
And another one.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/06/16/bidens-energy-secretary-oil-companies-need-to-step-up-while-we-shut-them-down-or-something-n476682
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Fits an all too common pattern nowadays
White House officials exploring sending Americans rebates cards to offset gas costs ran into another problem — the chips shortage, which meant US couldn’t physically produce enough cards to make the plan work even if lawmakers tried to do it, per sourceshttps://t.co/k1YNcZN1eq
— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) June 17, 2022
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/17/dumbest-admin-ever-biden-white-houses-super-genius-plan-to-offset-gas-costs-for-americans-foiled-by-another-crisis-they-created/
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Fits an all too common pattern nowadays
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/17/dumbest-admin-ever-biden-white-houses-super-genius-plan-to-offset-gas-costs-for-americans-foiled-by-another-crisis-they-created/
The stupid burns with this administration.
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=D =D =D
https://twitter.com/i/status/1538533685728669696
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=D =D =D
https://twitter.com/i/status/1538533685728669696
One look and I didn't even want to turn on the sound
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One look and I didn't even want to turn on the sound
Same here.
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Down a few more cents, surprisingly. Market forces doing their thing. Not sure how long this will keep up. From $4.39 to $4.59 was the range we saw while running around after church today.
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still holding at 4.79
(https://img.patriotpost.us/01G60FR0RSTWKJVGJ174XFW7GN.jpeg)
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Down a few more cents, surprisingly. Market forces doing their thing. Not sure how long this will keep up. From $4.39 to $4.59 was the range we saw while running around after church today.
Never fear Biden will do something to fix that tomorrow
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Never fear Biden will do something to fix that tomorrow
He already did. More lease sales got postponed to maybe never.
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Crude is getting hammered today. Right now it's down just shy of $7 a barrel.
RBOB is off 13 cents to $3.66 a gallon. Still WAY too freaking high, but a start.
But, I don't want it to drop too much too quickly... Otherwise Brandon might get delusions that his policies are actually bringing the price of gas down, and worse, people might actually buy that complete crock of festering dementia bullshit.
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Saw $4.19 at Sam's last night.
Brad
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$4.79 at Sams here
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Cheapest I've seen here in Northern Virginia is $4.93.
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He pushing hard to get congress to do a gas tax holiday. That would save me about $4 a tank and probably screw things up worse.
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and probably screw things up worse.
Never stopped them before
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I saw something this morning: the IRS is implementing some sort of federal tax on hydrogen production from methane. Most hydrogen is made from natural gas. Not sure what effects this will have. As far as fuel is concerned, hydrogen is used as part of the sulfur removal process among other uses throughout the chemical industry.
Here is an article I dug up. May be other chemicals affected. The hydrogen part affects my employer.
https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/superfund-chemical-excise-taxes-once-again-back-to-run-the-show
Superfund Chemical Excise Taxes: Once Again, Back to Run the Show
On Nov. 15, 2021, President Joe Biden signed into law the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act—or Jobs Act—which reinstated and expanded the Superfund chemical excise taxes under sections 4661 and 4671 of the tax code. Prior to their expiration in 1995, the Superfund chemical excise taxes were used to fund the Hazardous Substance Superfund. Expenditures were administered by the Environmental Protection Agency and used to clean up hazardous waste sites around the United States. Reinstated, the Superfund excise taxes will apply to a long list of chemicals and chemical-containing substances, effective July 1, 2022 through Dec. 31, 2031, absent extension.
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Goddamn it, oil is really cutting its losses for the day.
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He pushing hard to get congress to do a gas tax holiday. That would save me about $4 a tank and probably screw things up worse.
Lot of economists say it could really ramp up inflation.
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And he is planning on printing the money to replace the uncollected taxes to keep the highway fund on track.
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Lot of economists say it could really ramp up inflation.
Not that it won't, but I'm not sure I understand how.
Personally, I think a "gas tax holiday" makes more sense than depleting the strategic reserves. Depleting the reserves got us like two cents savings for a few weeks and the oil was gone. A gas tax holiday at least gives us a noticeable drop (especially if states do it too) without leaving us with our oil pants around our ankles. Plus at some point we have to replenish the reserves at much higher prices, so the federal budget takes a hit either way.
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Problem with a gas tax holiday is that it only masks the problem without actually addressing it. Plus, at some point the holiday will end and we'll be right back where we are. It's certainly better than nothing, at least short-term, but the fundamental problem still remains.
In addition, it may well make the problem worse. A sudden drop in fuel prices will likely result in a corresponding surge in demand, driving commodity prices up. With that, and the eventual reinstatement of fuel taxes, the price ends up being even higher.
Brad
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It's certainly better than nothing, at least short-term, but the fundamental problem still remains.
Short-term? More like mid-term, am I right?
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Not that it won't, but I'm not sure I understand how.
Personally, I think a "gas tax holiday" makes more sense than depleting the strategic reserves. Depleting the reserves got us like two cents savings for a few weeks and the oil was gone. A gas tax holiday at least gives us a noticeable drop (especially if states do it too) without leaving us with our oil pants around our ankles. Plus at some point we have to replenish the reserves at much higher prices, so the federal budget takes a hit either way.
Here, this Forbes article outlines the feared intersection between a gas tax holiday and higher inflation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2022/06/22/why-bidens-federal-gas-tax-holiday-would-be-bad-for-america/?sh=2b1a524436b6
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Instead of a "gas tax holiday" how about abolishing the ethanol dilution mandate and removing the EPA's authority to meddle with gasoline formulations both seasonally and geographically?
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Here, this Forbes article outlines the feared intersection between a gas tax holiday and higher inflation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2022/06/22/why-bidens-federal-gas-tax-holiday-would-be-bad-for-america/?sh=2b1a524436b6
Thanks, Mike.
Also, to be clear, I'm not in favor of the tax holiday, but rather was saying in my post that it's a better alternative than draining STRATEGIC reserves for a negligible result. I realize that I harp on this a lot, but they're called STRATEGIC for a reason, dammit.
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Also, to be clear, I'm not in favor of the tax holiday, but rather was saying in my post that it's a better alternative than draining STRATEGIC reserves for a negligible result. I realize that I harp on this a lot, but they're called STRATEGIC for a reason, dammit.
Very much agreed.
Brad
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Thanks, Mike.
Also, to be clear, I'm not in favor of the tax holiday, but rather was saying in my post that it's a better alternative than draining STRATEGIC reserves for a negligible result. I realize that I harp on this a lot, but they're called STRATEGIC for a reason, dammit.
But a tax holiday won't enrich some connected person who can act as middle man selling oil out of the strategic reserve.
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Anyways, it's Putin's fault again, oh, and also gas station owners.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/22/increasingly-unhinged-joe-biden-quintuples-down-on-blaming-putin-for-high-gas-prices-throws-gas-station-owners-under-the-bus-videos/
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I saw something this morning: the IRS is implementing some sort of federal tax on hydrogen production from methane. Most hydrogen is made from natural gas. Not sure what effects this will have. As far as fuel is concerned, hydrogen is used as part of the sulfur removal process among other uses throughout the chemical industry.
Here is an article I dug up. May be other chemicals affected. The hydrogen part affects my employer.
https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/superfund-chemical-excise-taxes-once-again-back-to-run-the-show
Superfund Chemical Excise Taxes: Once Again, Back to Run the Show
A lot of hydrogen is used to make fertilizer from methane.
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It's really about translation of pricing.
Say you have someone making minimum wage of $7.85 in 2018 - At $2.63/gallon, and their pickup truck has a 25 gallon tank, that is about 8.4 hours.
Now, here in our current workers paradise, Let's get someone making $11.15/hour today. They're driving the truck they got from their big brother. It is $4.89/gallon here. Works out to about 11 hours for the tank of gas to enable them to get to work.
But hey, they should just go out and buy a $40,000 electric car.
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Instead of a "gas tax holiday" how about abolishing the ethanol dilution mandate and removing the EPA's authority to meddle with gasoline formulations both seasonally and geographically?
Cue the office meme where Hank is thrown out the window for suggesting a good idea.
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Several depts on campus which are traditionally in-office work environments have transitioned to one or two days a week of work-from-home. It's their nod to helping employees save on commuting expense.
SWMBO and I have begun carpooling three days a week. The other two days we carpool in the morning and I take the truck after lunch. We usually run home for lunch but are seriously considering bringing meals. Not so much a huge savings per day, about four bucks in fuel, but every little bit helps. Annualized it works out to around $800 a year.
Brad
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Several depts on campus which are traditionally in-office work environments have transitioned to one or two days a week of work-from-home to try and help employees save on commuting expense.
SWMBO and I have begun carpooling three days a week. The other two days we carpool in the morning and I take the truck after lunch. We usually run home for lunch hour but are seriously considering bringing meals. Not so much a huge savings per day, about four bucks in fuel, but every little bit helps.
Brad
I have been trying to bring my lunch to work as well. I like to go home for lunch if I can, but the fuel use does add up.
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Nancy Pelosi Recommends Avoiding Pain At The Pump By Becoming A Millionaire Through Insider Trading
https://babylonbee.com/news/nancy-pelosi-recommends-avoiding-pain-at-the-pump-by-becoming-a-millionaire-through-insider-trading
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And another :rofl:
Biden Seen Shouting At Gas Station Sign To Lower Its Prices
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-seen-shouting-at-gas-station-sign-to-lower-its-prices
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Not the Babylon Bee but reads like it could have
Biden economic advisor Gene Sperling: "I just disagree" that gas prices were on the rise before Putin's invasion. pic.twitter.com/9cGpJGpdim
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 22, 2022
Yeah....
Biden economic adviser just disagrees that gas prices were on the rise before Russia invaded Ukraine
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/22/biden-economic-adviser-just-disagrees-that-gas-prices-were-on-the-rise-before-russia-invaded-ukraine/
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Now they are talking about using the DPA to reduce gas prices. I would love to hear their plan but they don't have one.
Oh I just figured it out. They will fly plane loads of fuel from Iran in exchange for pallets of cash.
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I just made a trip to San Diego for a week. Once I crossed into CA from NV diesel prices were running 6.79 to 6.99 at most places. I was near the 32nd St Naval station and they were selling diesel for 6.30 a gallon. I filled up on Sunday. I drove around a bit on Monday, went to Dana Point and then Lake Elsinore on Tuesday. Wednesday I went from Lake Elsinore to Dana Point and then home to Pahrump. When I got home diesel was 5.55 a gallon. The pump shut off at 175 dollars and I was probably 5-6 gallons short of full. The 48 gallon tank saved me having to buy fuel in CA and probably 30 dollars or more.
bob
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$ 5.05 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle. This is down 4 cents/gallon since my last fillup two weeks ago.
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$143.73 to fill up the battlecruiser.
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(https://i.imgur.com/puWWCLb.jpeg)
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Filled my big Dodge up for $4.47, cost me $80 and change. Drove to the next town to do some business and it was $4.39. :facepalm:
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Filled my big Dodge up for $4.47, cost me $80 and change. Drove to the next town to do some business and it was $4.39. :facepalm:
You would save $1.60. Don't feel bad.
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You would save $1.60. Don't feel bad.
It's the principle of the thing =D
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Did you top it off with the cheap stuff?
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Wow...
Price at my local Shell station, which had been sitting at $5.09 a gallon, fell to $4.95.
THANKS, BRANDON!
Speaking of Brandon, his cadre has been screeching about how he's not responsible for high gasoline prices, but how much you want to be they'll be screeching in short order about his insightful leadership resulting in falling gas prices?
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I'm not seeing the downward spike you guys are seeing.
They've started pulling out the plastic sixes at most of the Phoenix Metro area gas stations. Diesel and Premium are around $6.09 here.
I was asked by a grocery clerk out of the blue yesterday, where I thought gas prices were going to peak. I told him that it would be somewhere between $8 and $10 a gallon, but only if government doesn't fling around a bunch of handouts or do other things to ramp inflation higher, and people actually change gasoline consumption behavior in a statistically significant way. People that live within a few miles of work need to change driving behavior and consider bicycles or walking, or even motorcycles or scooters. Soccer moms that drive kids to school every morning and pick them up every afternoon need to loosen the apron strings and have the kids ride bikes to school (that one applies to my household; our little one goes to a private elementary school that has no bus service, that is about 1/2 a mile from our house).
I used to be okay with refueling my Wrangler once every two weeks. Now I've changed my standards to once every 4 weeks, and I need to take the motorcycle more often when running errands. Refueling the bike used to be something I didn't even think about; now it costs over $20 to do.
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No downward spike here either. It was $5.25 when I got gas in town this morning, with diesel at $5.86
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The "downward spike" here changed the last digit from a 9 to a 7. Yay, a whole two cents.
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So, anyone who is disabled, and who can't ride that bike, or walk/jog to work, is going to end up losing their jobs...
The young social democrats HATE older people.
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So, anyone who is disabled, and who can't ride that bike, or walk/jog to work, is going to end up losing their jobs...
The young social democrats HATE older people.
That's because they want to steal our money.
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Yeah.... this is NOT a "downward spike."
This is a slight price reversal that's going to stall and start moving back upwards very soon.
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Around here low test has gone from $4.69 down to $4.53.
Let's go Brandon!
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I'm probably gonna have to "move" back into my vehicle - I moved in december - my commute cost around 150 or so per paycheck now it is easily 300 - without going anywhere but work/ home
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$4.52 in Nevada MO today but the pump still shut off at $100 and I didn't feel like swiping the card again.
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Got the final word yesterday...
I am NOT moving to our new office (I'll call it office B). Everyone else on my team is, but I am not, I'm staying in Office O.
Office B is about a quarter mile from Office A, which was opened last year to replace an office that was even farther away. They had to open office B because the team grew WAY faster than they thought it would, I guess, so it's no hassle for the rest of my team.
But when they started talking about dragging me out of Office O to go to Office B I was very clear with my boss -- you make me move to the new office and increase my daily commute from 4 miles to upwards 30 and I will quit.
They were sort of hemming and hawing about that, and it just got a lot worse when I asked them what the business case was for wanting to make me move. There isn't one. The PM apparently just wants to have all his people near him so he doesn't feel lonely.
What the literal *expletive deleted*ck?
That's when I really dug my heels in, and I guess the work I've done on the program over the past two years speaks for itself because I'm not on any of the move charts.
My one teammate, with whom I share an office, is moving to Office B two days a week and he's not at all happy. He commutes a LOT farther (over an hour most days) and this will add another 30 minutes to an hour onto that. But, they're not as happy with he job he's done and want to bring him under a bit more supervision.
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Apparently gas prices will fall once we defeat Putin
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$4.149 for E-15 in Ankeny, IA
$3.579 for e85 at same station
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I was down to a quarter tank, and I'm traveling tomorrow, so I filled up.
$4.859, total just shy of $60.
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I was down to a quarter tank, and I'm traveling tomorrow, so I filled up.
$4.859, total just shy of $60.
I missed the decimal point the first time. I thought you said $4859 to fill up. Thats next month. I've lost the vision in my left eye so it can make the forum entertaining at times.
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Regular has creeper down 5o $4.31 locally.
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Our "go to" station has crept down to $4.34. It's been several weeks since the last increase. Way to go Brandon!
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Yes he actually said that, watch the video
Breaking911
@Breaking911
CNN: "What do you say to those families that say, 'listen, we can't afford to pay $4.85 a gallon for months, if not years?’"
BIDEN ADVISOR BRIAN DEESE: "This is about the future of the Liberal World Order and we have to stand firm."
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1542684948519419908
Biden economic adviser reminds us the ‘liberal world order’ is at stake so high gas prices must be tolerated
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/01/biden-economic-adviser-reminds-us-the-liberal-world-order-is-at-stake-so-high-gas-prices-must-be-tolerated/
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More Biden admin fun
Interior Secretary Deb Haaland vowed during a Senate hearing on May 19 to issue a legally-mandated program outlining proposed offshore lease sales over the next five years by Thursday. On Wednesday, Interior Department (DOI) spokesperson Melissa Schwartz confirmed the agency was "on track" to issue the plan by Thursday, according to E&E News.
Except they didn't.
Biden admin misses major oil lease deadline: 'an absolute disgrace'
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-administration-misses-major-oil-lease-deadline
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Biden advisor:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1542684948519419908
"The liberal world order". I guess it's not just paranoia anymore.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/01/biden-economic-adviser-reminds-us-the-liberal-world-order-is-at-stake-so-high-gas-prices-must-be-tolerated/
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Color me shocked but I saw a station this morning that yesterday was $5.099 and this morning was $4.899. :O
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More Biden admin fun
Except they didn't.
Biden admin misses major oil lease deadline: 'an absolute disgrace'
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-administration-misses-major-oil-lease-deadline
Can't wait to see what that does to futures and supply for the year. This whole administration can kiss my butt.
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Can't wait to see what that does to futures and supply for the year. This whole administration can kiss my butt.
I wouldn't let anyone in that administration kiss my butt. I might catch something nasty.
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I wouldn't let anyone in that administration kiss my butt. I might catch something nasty.
A few of them would ask you to turn around the other way :O
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I wouldn't let anyone in that administration kiss my butt. I might catch something nasty.
First thing I thought of when I saw Jim's post was, "that's how you get monkeypox!"
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My God you’re either obtuse, evil, or, most likely, both
Yeah, what he said.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/02/biden-tells-gas-station-owners-to-lower-gas-prices-and-do-it-now-because-its-time-of-war-and-global-peril/
I'm pretty sure that the majority of gas stations are owned by the middle class. Are his twentysomething Ivy League PR people so insulated that they can't figure out what a bad message that is?
Nevermind, even, this stupid, "We're at war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thing. [Narrator: We're not at war]
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Jeff Bezos is taking Biden to task for that statement.
"It’s either straight ahead misdirection or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics," Bezos added in his response.
Wow. When you start to lose a true left-wing soldier like Bezos you're really starting to *expletive deleted*it the bed.
Obviously, though, the left must punish Bezos for his transgression...
MAKE HIM PAY HIS FAIR SHARE IN TAXES!
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Jeff Bezos is taking Biden to task for that statement.
Even far left business owners are still business owners and have some understanding of the economy.
Though you shouldn't have to have a degree in economics to see how stupid Brandon's "order" was. I was under the impression that it's common knowledge that gas station owners make their money by their ability to get a customer from the pumps into the store to buy beef jerky or a Snickers. Biden is going after a 5 cent/gal difference that one station may charge over another and making it sound like your local station should be "fairly" charging $2/gal right now.
He has to be the stupidest president in the history of the country. And irritatingly to me, he combines his stupidity with "angry old man".
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Jeff Bezos is taking Biden to task for that statement.
"It’s either straight ahead misdirection or a deep misunderstanding of basic market dynamics," Bezos added in his response.
Wow. When you start to lose a true left-wing soldier like Bezos you're really starting to *expletive deleted*it the bed.
Obviously, though, the left must punish Bezos for his transgression...
MAKE HIM PAY HIS FAIR SHARE IN TAXES!
Musk: Welcome to the Extreme Radical Far Right side of things.
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Didn't take long
Karine Jean-Pierre takes a NASTY swipe at Jeff Bezos after he called out Biden on gas prices and inflation
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/07/03/karine-jean-pierre-takes-a-nasty-swipe-at-jeff-bezos-after-he-called-out-biden-on-gas-prices-and-inflation/
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So gas around here in Mesa, AZ is about $5.60 for 87 octane.
We went camping this weekend and headed up through Payson, gas was $4.60 or so for 87 octane.
Pretty pissed right now at our Maricopa County "summer blend" laws that put us into a boutique fuel mix and jack the prices as a result.
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I just found gas for $4.38!! Thanks, Joe Biden!!
Too bad I didn't find it 4 days ago. It would have been a pride month miracle!
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Our usual station went down another penny to $4.33. Not really sure what's behind the decrease when most places in the country are trending upwards. Maybe it's the fluctuations in oil prices.
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We continue to go up - $5.25 last week, $5.39 today. Might be because of the 4th. We'll see what local prices look like later in the week, I guess.
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$4.50 here now. Down from $4.99
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$450 here now. Down from $4.99
That's not really down if you get my point. .
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That's not really down if you get my point. .
Yes Mr. Decimal Point Nazi :rofl:
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No Pi for you.
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Yes Mr. Decimal Point Nazi :rofl:
Just wait a few weeks... the price will be up there.
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Halfway between Dallas & Tyler the cheap stuff is going for $4.26. Couple weeks ago it was $4.69ish. No idea why it's gradually dropping.
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We've drifted down to $4.28 at the Wally World gas station. Filling up as this is being typed.
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Karine Jean-Pierre doesn’t know that millions of barrels of oil released from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve have been sent to foreign countries. pic.twitter.com/B51kV5XFC6
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 5, 2022
Including China :facepalm:
White House Press Secretary Can’t Explain Why America's Emergency Oil Is Being Sent Overseas
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/07/06/white-house-press-secretary-cant-explain-why-american-reserve-oil-is-being-sent-overseas-n2609813
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/ImoticrbHdhNS/giphy.gif?cid=63e6b07ebojcuua7x6p97oaky3b21jlp3pzy197aci3aabev&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
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Just came back from Castle Key's, where the lowest price I saw was $4.59.
Going through Fredericksburg, Virginia, the lowest I saw (well off I 95), was $4.25 at a Royal Farms store.
Here at home in Fairfax?
Still just a skosh under $5 a gallon.
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NASDAQ and DJIA both trending up on the day.
RBOB is down 15 cents since mid-morning. At $3.24 we might actually see sub-$4 at local pumps by week's end.
Brad
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FB posts starting to pop with $3.99 at a few stores around town.
RBOB is up a bit, $3.42 as of a few minutes ago, so that $3.99 may not last long.
Brad
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I didn't need gas today but went to the MO town straight east of me for groceries and noticed it had dropped .10 from Monday evening when we watched the fireworks show there. $4.44.
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If this is accurate, why are we selling strategic reserve oil to China?
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/07/biden-who-just-shipped-5-million-barrels-from-us-reserve-overseas-will-go-meet-with-saudi-king-prince-and-beg-them-to-pump-more-oil/
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Just west of Austin, TX, I paid $4.259 for regular at the Exxon station just down the road. Diesel was $4.999. The local Texaco station was $4.459 for regular - they always seem to be about $0.20 - $0.30 higher than other local stations.
All locally available gas I've seen is ethanol diluted, probably by law. =(
If this is accurate, why are we selling strategic reserve oil to China?
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/07/biden-who-just-shipped-5-million-barrels-from-us-reserve-overseas-will-go-meet-with-saudi-king-prince-and-beg-them-to-pump-more-oil/
Ever hear of The Manchurian Candidate? Bribery and blackmail can work just as well as brainwashing.
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Our refineries are only set up to process certain types of crude.
If this is accurate, why are we selling strategic reserve oil to China?
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/07/biden-who-just-shipped-5-million-barrels-from-us-reserve-overseas-will-go-meet-with-saudi-king-prince-and-beg-them-to-pump-more-oil/
And add another natural gas pipeline explosion to the fun we are having.
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Seeing $4.19 for regular, diesel still running north of $5.10.
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Just west of Austin, TX, I paid $4.259 for regular at the Exxon station just down the road. Diesel was $4.999. The local Texaco station was $4.459 for regular - they always seem to be about $0.20 - $0.30 higher than other local stations.
All locally available gas I've seen is ethanol diluted, probably by law. =(
Ever hear of The Manchurian Candidate? Bribery and blackmail can work just as well as brainwashing.
If it is because of a law/regulation, it's not at the state level. There are two places within a half hour of here (between Dallas & Tyler) that sell straight gas - no ethanol added. They do add about $0.50 to $0.60 per gallon though.
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$3.77 at Sam's this evening. Line wrapped around the block.
Brad
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If this is accurate, why are we selling strategic reserve oil to China?
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/07/biden-who-just-shipped-5-million-barrels-from-us-reserve-overseas-will-go-meet-with-saudi-king-prince-and-beg-them-to-pump-more-oil/
So that Americans won't have it; this whole nation has been in asset consumption mode for 12 years, example cash for clunkers scam that removed a lot of transportation assets from America.
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I just read we are apparently down to the lowest levels in the reserve since 1985. I believe they said the reserve was created in 1975.
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According to St. Louis Gas Prices (https://www.stlouisgasprices.com/), St. Charles County, MO, prices are ranging from $4.05 - $4.68.
St. Louis County range from $4.41 - $4.79 and the City is $4.49 - $4.89.
Just across the river in IL-ANNOY, prices range from $4.80 - $5.09. :facepalm:
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$4.099/gal for regular after a .10/gal discount at the Shreveport, LA, Youree Dr, Kroger.
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I didn't pay attention to the price but I filled up tonight for less than $60 from the low fuel light. Has been over $60.
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$3.94 today for 87 octane rating in North Central Ky.
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Biden says he's not responsible for the rise in gas prices (Putin's Price Hike) but boy is he sure claiming success in making them fall.
I guess he scared those price gouging small business owners into line.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-falling-gas-prices-show-program-working/story?id=86318473
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Biden says he's not responsible for the rise in gas prices (Putin's Price Hike) but boy is he sure claiming success in making them fall.
I guess he scared those price gouging small business owners into line.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-falling-gas-prices-show-program-working/story?id=86318473
I'd pay real money for Peter Doocy to, at the next press conference, ask about "Putin's price drop". =D
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Just filled up for $3.98. Most stations around town ar back to around $4.09 or so, though.
Brad
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I'd pay real money for Peter Doocy to, at the next press conference, ask about "Putin's price drop". =D
God that would be great to see...
The dementia robot would go into a "My policies are responsible for the price drop! repeat previous line, my policies are responsible for the price drop! repeat previous line: my policies are responsible for the price drop!" loop.
Oh, wait, that already happened.
Never mind.
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Just paid $4.28 in New Haven Ky
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Yesterday the local Murphy's was $4.12, this morning it was down to $4.02 for the cheap stuff.
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$ 4.59 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of downtown Seattle. This is anywhere from 40 to 75 cents less per gallon than the surrounding stations.
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$ 4.59 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of downtown Seattle. This is anywhere from 40 to 75 cents less per gallon than the surrounding stations.
Wow. You are usually within about ten cents of me, and usually higher. Here it is $5.31 in town and $5.09 at Costco.
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$4.29 at Sams
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Down to $4.21 at one of our usual go-to stations.
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$4.14 for regular, $4.96 for diesel.
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Murphy's was down again, to $3.92.
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Oil's dropping hard, today, now just under $100 a barrel.
Please stay high just long enough to put a nail in Brandon's electoral coffin...
Please?
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RBOB dropping, too. Down almost twenty cents on the day. Currently at $3.25 and flirting with making it into the teens.
Brad
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RBOB $3.18 and falling. $3.99 at the pump a common sight this morning.
Brad
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Oil's recovered and is up, but only slightly. 16 cents last time I looked.
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Oil's recovered and is up, but only slightly. 16 cents last time I looked.
RBOB following suit. Currently in the low $3.20's.
Brad
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$4.15 at Sams
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Filled up the Jeep for $4.11 this evening.
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Gassed up today at Exxon - price was $3.979/gallon.
It kind of feels like seeing .223 at just under $500/1000 . . . still WAY too high, but not as insane as $650/1000.
(Are we seeing a Putin Price Cut, or is the dwindling possibility of a Biden second term giving the industry hope for the future?)
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I just paid $4.70 a gallon for drunken 87.
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Exposing the Gas Stations for Ignoring President Biden & Gouging the Price of Gas - Alex Stein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMkYYtoOxXI
=D
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Just filled up for $3.93.
Brad
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Biden says his talks were a success and that the Saudis will help us out. Just now on the TV, I saw the prince say that SA is about tapped out on production capacity and that the US and others need to look somewhere else.
So much for the fist bump.
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Biden says his talks were a success and that the Saudis will help us out. Just now on the TV, I saw the prince say that SA is about tapped out on production capacity and that the US and others need to look somewhere else.
So much for the fist bump.
What Joe Biden says happened and what really happened are frequently two very different things.
Guess which one the MSM will say happened.
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Biden says his talks were a success and that the Saudis will help us out. Just now on the TV, I saw the prince say that SA is about tapped out on production capacity and that the US and others need to look somewhere else.
So much for the fist bump.
Biden: I asked the People of Color of Saudi Arabia to increase their oil production to help me keep my Democratic majorities in the House and Senate.
Reporter: Mr. President, how about increasing US production of oil to help ourselves?
Biden: Well, that's racist because it harms People of Color and it's also a well known fact that you can't drill your way to lower gasoline prices.
Reporter: ......
Biden: .....
Reporter .....
Biden: word salad...
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Business Insider, so they're sympathetic to the Biden admin of course. Yet, the kingdom buying lots of Russian oil is a thing I was unaware of.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/russia-saudi-arabia-oil-fuel-energy-sanctions-inflation-ukraine-2022-7
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Just southeast of St. Louis, prices are ranging from $4.699 to $5.099.
Of course, this is in IL-ANNOY where the governor has forced stations to put political messages on pumps about he has "delayed" the gas tax for several months. Station owners are reminding people that "Gov. Jabba" is the same "fat cat" who doubled the gas tax a couple of years ago.
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Chevron on my corner is still $5.30 for E-10, and $6.699 for diesel.
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$4.02 Sams
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Discount club price for unleaded regular was $4.199 on Friday. Exxon station between there and home was $4.659
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Saw $3.96 for regular E10.
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$3.92 at the Murphy's we frequent on US321. It was $3.96 at the Raceway just up the road from our house. I go there on occasion when I have no plans to drive up around the Murphy's.
There are some stories in the media that demand destruction is behind the downward trend in gas prices. All of the stories say demand destruction is usually temporary.
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Crude oil and RBOB are freaking thumping today.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FX6Dk4jXEAAo4nR?format=jpg&name=small)
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Stopped at the local Murphy's to fill the truck & two 5 gal cans with E10, and got 7 gal of non-ethanol for the generator. Total was $137.25.
The E10 was $3.819/gal and the sober gas was $4.309/gal.
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Keep going dudes, you're doing great prep for November:
Pete Buttigieg:
“The more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles”
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$3.60 per gallon today when I filled up. Around 20 cents up from a month ago.
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Crude is down between $3.50 and $4 a barrel right now.
RBOB is down to $3.10.
Just got an e-mail from Senator Warner, Virginia, who's crowing about improving conditions turning for the Dems in the upcoming election.
WE'RE NOT ONLY GONNA WIN, WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE OUR LOT AND WIN BIG!
I want that *expletive deleted*ck to eat those words and choke on them in November.
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Hopefully enough people recognize a now very familiar pattern during the latter half of election years to not be fooled by that.
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Hopefully enough people recognize a now very familiar pattern during the latter half of election years to not be fooled by that.
Wishful thinking.
People are stupid.
OH! I'M PAYING 5 CENTS LESS A GALLON FOR GASOLINE OVER THE LAST 3 MONTHS! ALL HAIL BRANDON'S WONDERFUL STEWARDSHIP!
Ignoring, of course, the fact that gasoline has double in price under that stewardship.
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And the left finally makes its true nature known...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-must-stop-fall-gasoline-prices-set-5-gallon-minimum-combat-climate-change-bloomberg-op-ed
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They're been screaming that for probably close to two decades now.
The Obama admin just didn't have the guts, or the stupids, enough to push it openly.
In fact I seem to remember $10 was the magic number.
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And the left finally makes its true nature known...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-must-stop-fall-gasoline-prices-set-5-gallon-minimum-combat-climate-change-bloomberg-op-ed
EVERY SINGLE SOLUTION TO THE SO CALLED GLOBAL WARMING EMERGENCY INVOLVES DEMOCRATS STICKING THEIR HANDS IN MY POCKET TO TAKE MORE MONEY.
Based on their actions, bad weather is caused by the money in my pocket, and good weather comes from transferring it from my pocket to theirs.
%$#@&!% grifters aren't even pretending any more.
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Saw 3.91 yesterday.
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Do you think that the speculators will drop it to $3 by election time?
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Here it's down to $3.62.
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Ford to Cut 8,000 U.S. Jobs to Invest in Biden's Energy 'Transition'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/07/22/ford-to-cut-8-000-u-s-jobs-to-invest-in-bidens-energy-transition-n2610657
The 8,000 Ford jobs in jeopardy, according to Reuters, are part of "a bid to reduce costs and intensify its focus on electric vehicles" and will be made to "Ford's salaried workforce, as well as the Ford Blue unit created in March to run the company's internal combustion engine operations." The positions to be eliminated have, according to Reuters' sources, not been finalized but the cuts "are likely to begin this summer."
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Ford to Cut 8,000 U.S. Jobs to Invest in Biden's Energy 'Transition'
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/07/22/ford-to-cut-8-000-u-s-jobs-to-invest-in-bidens-energy-transition-n2610657
*expletive deleted*ing Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bought it at $11 back in 2019 for the 5% dividend and sold half my stock when it was $23 back in January. I should have sold it all. I thought they were getting their *expletive deleted*it together, but it looks like they continue to go woke and broke.
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$4.059 for unleaded regular 10% ethanol at te discount club on the way home this evening. Last Friday it was $4.199.
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Reading the current issue of American Motorcyclist one article is about how the fed's have OK'd the sale of 15% ethanol this summer. Seems it's not normally sold during the summer, 'cause the hot weather causes more pollution from it. This year they're claiming it'll lower the gas prices.
Anyone seen it in the wild?
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I know of a new station between my place and Kansas City that has 15% and 85%. The way my truck is running I'm worried they are starting to dump it in the no lead tanks.
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Saw $3.86 yesterday.
My Jeep tends to run about 17-18 MPG on "winter gas" and 19-20 MPG on "summer gas". I've been getting in the low 17 MPG range all year.
We can still get "pure gas" so no issues for the bike or the outdoor power equipment, yet.
Quite a few places local have the 15 and 85%. I can run it in my '11 "Flex Fuel" Ram 1500 but the loss of efficiency doesn't make up for the lower cost.
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Gas prices have barely budged here in Northern Virginia. Still ranging between the high $4.60s all the way to $5.499 for regular unleaded.
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Gas prices have barely budged here in Northern Virginia. Still ranging between the high $4.60s all the way to $5.499 for regular unleaded.
We don't seem to be moving down much in Iderho either. It's $5.17 locally, $4.95 at the Costco.
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$3.69 at the go-to station. Filled two five gallon gas jugs and topped off the truck for $60 yesterday. That included the 10 cent a gallon Murphy's club discount. The discount is limited to 20 gallons now. There used to be no limit.
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Yep, we're ready
Tesla has told users in Texas not to charge their cars during a heat wave.
The alert comes as the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which operates the state’s grid, is calling on residents to conserve energy – in order to stop the grid being pushed to near-emergency conditions.
“A heat wave is expected to impact the grid in Texas over the next few days. The grid operator recommends to avoid charging during peak hours between 3pm and 8pm, if possible, to help statewide efforts to manage demand”, an in-car alert sent to Tesla owners reads, as reported by Electrek.
Tesla asks Texans not to charge their car to avoid overloading national grid
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-asks-texans-not-charge-085820548.html
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$3.57 at the BP in Olds, IA on the Avenue of the Saints.
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The local Murphy's and the Brookshires grocery store down the street (between Dallas & Tyler) were at $3.54 this afternoon.
There's still a long way to go before we get back to the $2.00/gal gas. The rate it's going now, Trump will be back in office before that happens.
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Gas prices at a Sheetz in Grantville, PA
93 - $4.70
89 - $4.65
87 - $4.50
88 - $3.75 never seen this one or the flex
Flex - $2.99 a.k.a. E85, but the pump says 51-83%
Diesel - $5.60
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Da Fuq you doing in downtown cosmopolitan Grantville?
Taking in the races at Penn National?
I grew up 20 miles from there on the other side of the Susquehanna River.
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$ 4.19 this morning at the Marysville Costco 45 miles north of Seattle. Down 40 cents per gallon over the past two weeks.
ETA: there are stations within a couple of miles of this Costco that are at $ 5.19 and some even higher.
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Dropped 20 cents a gallon today at the Global near my house. Now down to $4.39.
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Da Fuq you doing in downtown cosmopolitan Grantville?
Taking in the races at Penn National?
I grew up 20 miles from there on the other side of the Susquehanna River.
Went to Hershey for the park and a show.
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Nice.
They mulch all of the plants in Hershey with coco bean hulls. It makes the entire town smell like you're inside of a chocolate bar, especially in the spring.
When the wind was JUST right in the spring, you could smell chocolate on the air.
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I think he is trying to empty the whole thing for the mid-terms.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/white-house-announces-sale-additional-twenty-million-barrels-oil-strategic-petroleum-reserve
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Came down at one Sams in town $3.77
Went up at the other a little $3.89
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I was filling up the car Monday at the same station where I buy my non-oxygenated premium gas for the small engines. I noticed the sticker on the E0 pump that says it's for collector cars, offroad use, boats, and small engines now says purchase of less than 4 gallons is against federal law. WTF is that about? We can either ignore that when I fill up my 2 gallon can, or I can pump 2 gallons on the ground; their call.
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I hadn’t heard of that, but a quick search shows that it is a decade old EPA rule relating to pumps which use one hose to dispense different ethanol blends. I guess the intent was to prevent high ethanol fuel remaining in the hose from changing the effective ethanol rating of lower ethanol blends.
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Huh. I've not noticed that at the e-free pump. I'll have to look for it next time. I always get it 5 gallons at a time, but still, stupid EPA.
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Interesting. The stations I have seen with non-ethanol gas have a separate hose for it.
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Interesting. The stations I have seen with non-ethanol gas have a separate hose for it.
Same here. In fact, most of the stations that I've seen that have sober gasoline have a separate pump entirely, normally away from the pumps where you normally would gas up your car.
I've always attributed that to "well, all of our current tanks have to have drunken gas in them, so we need to add a separate tank for sober gas, and we'll need a separate pump, too. Might as well put it over there to keep it open for people with boats and trailers with equipment on it so they don't tie up multiple pumps."
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Interesting. The stations I have seen with non-ethanol gas have a separate hose for it.
That too. There was no e-free in CA, so my only experience is Idaho, but here it's either an entirely separate pump, or else a separate hose, like the diesel.
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We have two stations in the closest town, one of which has ethanol free as their premium gas. It uses the same hose and has no warning. That said, the station doesn't offer E85 or E15 which were - as I understand it - the concerns. The assumption seems to be that most engines can take E10, but if the concentration is likely to surpass that then you want to dilute any remaining E85 or E15 enough to where it won't cause a problem.
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I hadn’t heard of that, but a quick search shows that it is a decade old EPA rule relating to pumps which use one hose to dispense different ethanol blends. I guess the intent was to prevent high ethanol fuel remaining in the hose from changing the effective ethanol rating of lower ethanol blends.
Every pump has 4 hoses; one for each blend and one for diesel. So unintentional mixing would not be an issue. It might be the reason tho' for the EPA rule (not a law like the pump says, but I don't expect good legal advice from a gas pump)
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I don't expect good legal advice from a gas pump)
Wait, are you saying it isn't actually against federal law to use your phone while you fill up?
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Every pump has 4 hoses; one for each blend and one for diesel. So unintentional mixing would not be an issue. It might be the reason tho' for the EPA rule (not a law like the pump says, but I don't expect good legal advice from a gas pump)
Not the stations here in Northern Virginia.
1 pump, three or four buttons, depending on how many grades of gasoline, and one hose and nozzle.
If the pump also has diesel, then it's on one side and delivers diesel only.
I've always assumed that there's some sort of mechanism in the pump that will empty the hose back into whatever tank was most recently pumped.
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Yay!
WATCH — Jared Bernstein, member of Biden's Council of Economic Advisers:
“There’s also positive news that we should not overlook. I mean, the price at the pump is now $4.30 a gallon.” pic.twitter.com/15HCCUejB7
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) July 27, 2022
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/27/they-hate-you-biden-economic-adviser-shares-positive-economic-news-thatll-make-you-even-more-furious/
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Depends on the station and the pump. Some have separate hoses for non-ethanol, some don't. On the shared hose pumps if I'm buying pure gas in cans I'll pump 2-3 gallons into the truck to clear at least most (some?) of the ethanol from the shared hose before I fill the cans.
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Yay!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/27/they-hate-you-biden-economic-adviser-shares-positive-economic-news-thatll-make-you-even-more-furious/
Only a special kind of idiot celebrates gasoline going down 50 cents after a run up of $3.
And the Biden administration is chock full of idiots of a very special kind.
Now, who wants word salad for lunch ?
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Now, who wants word salad for lunch ?
At this point, it would be acceptable for just lunch, but we are getting it for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks, and force fed via IV.
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5.999 for REGULAR full service today. $61 to fill up my 2013 Ford Escape!!!
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Over the past few days the price went from $4.69 to $4.29 at the Global station near my house. That was all Brandon.
2 days later it's back to $4.49. That was all Putin. And the greedy Pakistani guy who owns that station and is trying to make a living for his family.
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Crude and RBOB is absolutely spiking today.
So much for Brandon's crowing about how he's personally bringing oil prices down.
I wonder who he's going to blame it on now?
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It's your fault. You are to stupid to see that this is the greatest economy in the history of economies.
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It's your fault. You are to stupid to see that this is the greatest economy in the history of economies.
You just have to remove inflation from the equation. Duh!
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I wonder who he's going to blame it on now?
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMP!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!
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Just went past the Global, and it's now up to $4.59.
Let's go Brandon!
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Crude and RBOB is absolutely spiking today.
Glad I filled up both vehicles yesterday. $3.39 at Sam's.
Brad
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Prices moderated quite a bit day's end but were still up strongly, apparently on thoughts that the Saudis aren't going to increase production.
Maybe Brandon needs to make another phone call to the Saudis and play Oliver Biden again...
"Please, Sir, I want some more!"
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Prices moderated quite a bit day's end but were still up strongly, apparently on thoughts that the Saudis aren't going to increase production.
Maybe Brandon needs to make another phone call to the Saudis and play Oliver Biden again...
"Please, Sir, I want some more!"
Bomb the crap out of Iran. That usually makes the Saudis happy
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This morning I decided to do a deep dive through my retirement and brokerage accounts. It's been far too long since I've done so. No big surprises, really, about what's going on with my investments.
But, by far, my best performers right now are the oil company shares that I hold. I bought them right at the start of covid in 2020 when everything was tanking, but especially oil prices.
Now they're skyrocketing, and much of that has come since Biden got into office.
I think I'm actually winning Biden's war of fossil fuel...
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$3.61 here.
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WTI is down over $3 a barrel this morning; RBOB is pushing close to $3.
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RBOB just dropped below $3 a gallon.
Be prepared for a slight decrease in the pump price in 6 to 8 months...
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RBOB just dropped below $3 a gallon.
Be prepared for a slight decrease in the pump price in 6 to 8 months...
Until after the first week in Nov
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Until after the first week in Nov
That, too.
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$ 4.15/gallon just now at the Marysville Costco 45 miles north of Seattle. Down 4 cents in the last week.
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Putin Awards Self Medal Of Freedom For Dropping Gas Prices
https://babylonbee.com/news/putin-awards-self-medal-of-freedom-for-dropping-gas-prices
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Crude is dropping pretty hard right now, just over $91 a barrel. RBOB is down to $2.92.
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$4.70 for drunk gas and still over $6 for diesel.
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Saw $3.23 at Sam's yesterday. $3.39 to $3.49 at most retail locations.
RBOB still dropping. Flirting with dipping into the two-eighties.
Brad
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Most of the stations around me in Northern Virginia are in the $4.40 to $4.70 range.
Ridiculous
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4.77 for diesel today in lovely Pahrump
bob
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Crude just dropped below $90 a barrel; RBOB is now well below $3 a gallon.
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We didn't raise prices, but by God we sure as hell decreased them!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-energy-adviser-defends-taking-credit-lower-gas-prices-despite-blaming-putin-hike
Absolutely *expletive deleted*ing disgusting.
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We didn't raise prices, but by God we sure as hell decreased them!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-energy-adviser-defends-taking-credit-lower-gas-prices-despite-blaming-putin-hike
Absolutely *expletive deleted*ing disgusting.
And will be parroted be the MSM
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Wow. Oil and RBOB numbers are slipping faster than Brandon's cognitive baseline scores.
Crude is sitting at $87.73 and RBOB is sitting at $2.76, down 3.2 and 5%, respectively.
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More bad economic numbers from both the US and China behind the drop. This will definitely help the Democrats come the midterms because gas prices are the more in-your-face part of the economic pain this country is suffering.
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Crude is sitting at $87.73 and RBOB is sitting at $2.76, down 3.2 and 5%, respectively.
Daaaang.
Brad
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$3.54 this afternoon.
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Prices dropped between 15 and 20 cents a gallon at the stations near my house.
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Prices dropped between 15 and 20 cents a gallon at the stations near my house.
I find it curious that the pump price drops are occurring so quickly after the wholesale price drops. Historically, that does not happen. It typically takes several days to a week for wholesale price drops to find their way to the pumps.
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I find it curious that the pump price drops are occurring so quickly after the wholesale price drops. Historically, that does not happen. It typically takes several days to a week for wholesale price drops to find their way to the pumps.
Yeah, I've been having the same thought.
Maybe Brandon is doing something after all!
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Case of gas hording or potential terrorism?
Hazmat crews find roughly 154 jugs filled with gasoline inside home, police say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxQZ8pdus4
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I find it curious that the pump price drops are occurring so quickly after the wholesale price drops. Historically, that does not happen. It typically takes several days to a week for wholesale price drops to find their way to the pumps.
I've heard rumors of retailers buying fuel by the day rather than full tankerloads which might last several days. That would account, at least in some part, for the more immediate pump price reactions.
Brad
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The propane guy was just by to top off my tank. $2.49/gal, which is cheaper than when he topped it off in FEB, when it was $2.90.
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I'm really curious what stove pellets are going to cost me this year.
I've kept track of how many bags I've used in a season, but I've not kept track of how much I've paid...
OK, looks like last year 40 bags of pellets were about $230.
From what I'm hearing pellets could be quite a bit more expensive this coming heating season.
Still don't care. I'm warm using my pellet stove.
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$3.999 for unleaded regular (10% ethanol) at the discount club on the way home Friday evening. Same price as last Friday. Two weeks ago it was $4.059.
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The local Murphy's is down to $3.41 for the cheap stuff.
I've been using https://www.pure-gas.org/ for years to find sober gas.
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Several of the stations near me have dropped a few more cents.
Everyone is still well over $4 a gallon, though.
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Just paid $3.499 at the local Exxon yesterday. That's down a bit from last month.
I looked in my notebook, and found that on 01/07/2021 - THE DAY AFTER THE INSURRECTION - I paid $1.899. That's up $1.60 a gallon, or +84%.
And the bill just passed by the dems includes added taxes on oil - OF COURSE raising taxes on a product will reduce the price. :facepalm:
Let's Go Brandon.
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$3.499 around here.
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Yesterday morning the Global near my house was $4.29.
Yesterday afternoon it was $4.19.
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$3.99 at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of downtown Seattle. My Fuelly app tells me the last time I filled up for under $ 4/gallon was back in late February 2022.
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I don't like this at all.
This reversal in gasoline prices and their recent legislative wins could do a lot to reverse feelings against the Dems heading into the election.
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I don't like this at all.
This reversal in gasoline prices and their recent legislative wins could do a lot to reverse feelings against the Dems heading into the election.
The lead the Republicans had in the Rasmussen generic congressional ballot shrunk from 10% to 3% in just over a week as reported July 29. I've been wondering for some time whether the predicted Red Tsunami was going to turn out to be more of a red wavelet.
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And the bill just passed by the dems includes added taxes on oil - OF COURSE raising taxes on a product will reduce the price. :facepalm:
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength
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The lead the Republicans had in the Rasmussen generic congressional ballot shrunk from 10% to 3% in just over a week as reported July 29. I've been wondering for some time whether the predicted Red Tsunami was going to turn out to be more of a red wavelet.
That is just as likely a reaction to the betrayals on the gun control bill. Or it is just polling variations and mean nothing.
Nothing is ever easy or guaranteed. Trump was supposed to win easily in 2020, but COVID among other things muddied the waters quite a bit.
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Passed by the station by my house, the one that dropped to $4.19 yesterday.
This afternoon?
$3.99.
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$3.84 at Cosco in NW Indiana
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$3.09 last night at Sam's.
Brad
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Gas station in Shreveport, LA in Kroger Lot
Diesel: $4.699/gal
Regular: $3.359/gal
Mid-Grade: $3.609/gal
Premium: $3.859/gal
.10 off/gal if ya buy enough stuff at Kroger or Super 1
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And the Global near my house, which was down to $3.99?
Back up to $4.29.
I wonder if they were running a special or something.
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Filled up the Jeep yesterday for $3.39. Fill the bike this morning with premium no-ethanol for $3.99.
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I just paid $3.359 to tank of my Forester. $45 even for just a hair shy of 13.5 gallons.
The reason why I paid $3.359?
Because I had $1 a gallon off in grocery rewards points.
Otherwise I'd have paid right around $60.
Thanks, Brandon, for whatever you're not doing, you dementia addled *expletive deleted*che bag.
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That's not fair, President Elder Abuse is not doing anything it's the puppets pulling the strings.
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The 10% was $3.29, diesel was $4.11 this afternoon at Murphy's and the local Brookshire's.
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Crude and RBOB are falling HARD today.
WTI is down $4.45 a barrel (cosing in on $87 a barrel) and RBOB is down 13 cents to $2.91.
Falling too soon. We need to prop those prices up put pressure on Brandon...
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Two days later and the local price is now down to $3.19 for e10. Diesel is $4.11 and non-ethanol is $3.66.
I find it hard to believe the prices falling like this are due to lower demand.
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$88.54 barrel right now
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Saw regular for $3.35 today.
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Nine days ago (8/6), I gassed up for $4.399/gal.
Yesterday, that same station was $4.199 !! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :facepalm:
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Nine days ago (8/6), I gassed up for $4.399/gal.
Yesterday, that same station was $4.199 !! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :facepalm:
Ok, I'm starting a pool on next Monday's price. $1/sq. Who's in?
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It's all in the spin
CNN
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Next time you stop at a gas station, think of it as a $100-a-month tax cut. Or a maybe $100-a-month raise.
(https://c.tenor.com/fyIlma4WWBIAAAAM/maquina-de-lavar-washing-machine.gif)
CNN’s spin on way-too-high gas prices makes for ‘the stupidest headline you will read today’
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/08/19/cnns-spin-on-way-too-high-gas-prices-makes-for-the-stupidest-headline-you-will-read-today/
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In 4 days the local price for e10 went from $3.19 to $3.42.
I guess people started driving again.
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Sure the dems are taking notes
In Australia’s push to follow other developed nations’ transition to electric vehicles, one bank in the country said it will stop giving out loans for new gas or diesel vehicles beginning in 2025, including hybrids.
"We think that the responsible thing for us to do next, is to ensure that our vehicle lending doesn’t lock our customers in to higher carbon emissions and increasingly expensive running costs in the years ahead," Courville said in a statement on Friday.
Australian Bank Makes Announcement About Future Car Loans. Is This What the Left Has in Mind for the US?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/08/23/australian-bank-plans-to-stop-giving-out-loans-for-gas-vehicles-by-2025-n2612113
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Sure the dems are taking notes
Australian Bank Makes Announcement About Future Car Loans. Is This What the Left Has in Mind for the US?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/08/23/australian-bank-plans-to-stop-giving-out-loans-for-gas-vehicles-by-2025-n2612113
I am sure they do have this in mind along with a great many other things. You will conform or else.
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Huge Natural Gas Deposit Discovered by ENI-Total Off Cyprus
https://greekreporter.com/2022/08/22/huge-natural-gas-deposit-discovered-off-cyprus/
This should help the dependence on Russia, but not sure how much.
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Price has dropped below $4 a gallon at quite a few stations in my area of Northern Virginia. Still a lot over $4 a gallon, though.
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Seeing $3.89 a gallon in my area at a few stations now.
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Locally gas is running between 3.39 and 3.69 a gallon - down from earlier this year, but still up sharply from when Biden took office.
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Gall dang, man. We're still at $4.70 locally, $4.50 at the Costco.
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The local Sunoco bumped up a dime to $3.35 this week. The other stations we drive by on US321 seem to be stuck at $3.25. They haven't moved in a while.
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$3.35 for regular E10
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$ 3.99/gallon at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle.
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New Wawa opened near my house, including a fueling station.
Gas at their pumps is $3.56 a gallon right now, handily beating the Shell and Sunoco stations near my house and matching the Global station.
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$3.24 yesterday.
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And here in St. Louis, diesel is damn near at $5...
Which is affecting pretty much everything.
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Filled up this morning in Tampa for $3.47. Like Hank said, down a pit from the peak, but still closing in on double what it was in Jan 21
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After holding steady for a while, gas dropped a couple of pennies to $3.24 at our three closest stations.
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OPEC says they are cutting production and the draining of our reserve is about to end. Not sure if it will jump back up before the midterms but it will this winter.
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OPEC says they are cutting production and the draining of our reserve is about to end. Not sure if it will jump back up before the midterms but it will this winter.
Do we have any reserves left to tap, or did Biden drain it all? (and probably sold it for under-market price to his cronies, then we can overpay to buy it back to restock when this foolishness is over)
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Do we have any reserves left to tap, or did Biden drain it all? (and probably sold it for under-market price to his cronies, then we can overpay to buy it back to restock when this foolishness is over)
US Crude Oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve Stocks is at a current level of 450.00M, down from 453.06M last week and down from 621.30M one year ago. This is a change of -0.68% from last week and -27.57% from one year ago.
That's as of Aug 31, 2022
This site (https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCSSTUS1&f=M) shows SPR levels since inception. We've been basically trending down since 2009, although Biden really hit the overdrive with his policies.
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Today I paid $3.099 at an Exxon station just outside Austin, TX. I saw a few other stations at the same price, a few others were higher.
On July 7, 2021 I paid $1.899, so gas is still $1.20 a gallon higher thanks in large part to Brandon. :mad:
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On St. Hwy 69, south of Tyler, gas was $3.15. The stations on I20 near Canton were charging $3.58.
They're only ~40 miles apart.
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Crude is dropping HARD again today...
WTI is down more than 5%.
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Gas at the Global near me is $3.36 a gallon.
Gas at the new WAWA around the corner is $3.37.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the MSM telling me that Brandon has slashed gas prices. I paid $4.50 yesterday. I was paying $3.50 a year ago.
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Driving through Tyler, TX this afternoon I saw one station advertising $2.99.
Closer to home I paid $3.19.
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Jumped from $3.11 to $3.29 today.
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$2.85 at the corner Circle-K Convenience Store in Shreveport, LA.
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At our three close-by stations on US321, gas jumped 17 cents a gallon overnight to $3.29.
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As low as $2.95 in rural Hardin County Ky.
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Down to $3.33 at the stations near me.
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$2.98 at Sams day before yesterday.
Brad
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$3.28 for regular E10.
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JC on a pogo stick! It's still ~$4.50 here, and the local liberal "news"paper is bragging about Brandon's price drop. :mad:
Edit: I have to do a Costco run this morning and just checked their price. They're down to $4.25. Still though, the rest of you guys all seem to be under four bucks.
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$3.50ish for E 10 87.
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Interesting read going back through this thread seeing the swings on gas and crude prices.
I had posted in March of 2020 that I paid $1.24 for e10.
:old: :mad:
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Interesting read going back through this thread seeing the swings on gas and crude prices.
I had posted in March of 2020 that I paid $1.24 for e10.
:old: :mad:
March 2020, the whole world shutdown and fuel demand dropped like a hot rock.
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March 2020, the whole world shutdown and fuel demand dropped like a hot rock.
TRUMP'S FAULT!!!!
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Just filled up for $3.23. Another $100 gone.
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We're back up to 3.89
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We're back up to 3.89
How much of a jump was it?
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I just paid $2.599 per gallon.
I had 90 cents a gallon off from my grocery store rewards.
It was shocking to see a finally tally in the low $30 range again.
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It was $3.31 Monday, $3.44 today.
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JC on a pogo stick! It's still ~$4.50 here, and the local liberal "news"paper is bragging about Brandon's price drop. :mad:
Edit: I have to do a Costco run this morning and just checked their price. They're down to $4.25. Still though, the rest of you guys all seem to be under four bucks.
$3.99 at the Marysville Costco this morning.
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It's down to $3.17 here. Strange thing is that the Exxon & Valero's stations are at the same price as Murphy's and Brookshire's. They're usually $0.10 or so above the other two.
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Oil's falling like a stone today.
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Oil just dropped below $80 a barrel.
And RBOB is down 13 cents to below $2.40.
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At our three close-by stations on US321, gas jumped 17 cents a gallon overnight to $3.29.
And most of that price increase has evaporated. Gas at these stations is back down to $3.10 or thereabouts.
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I filled up last night at $3.03. Passed the station this morning, it went down to $2.95.
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$5.30 here in Oregon.
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$5.30 here in Oregon.
Blue State Prices
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Ain't that the truth...
California, Washington, Oregon... all have gasoline prices far higher that what much of the rest of the country is seeing right now.
Gotta pay for all of that free government *expletive deleted*it somehow.
Although, surprisingly, Massachusetts and New York gas prices are not all that high.
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Oil is spiking HARD today.
Apparently OPEC is contemplating a dramatic production cut.
A note to the OPEC ministers...
Please please please spike oil and gasoline prices hard so that we can shove our newly regain foreign oil dependence right up the Democratic party's bung hole.
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Blue State Blues
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OPEC cutting production
OPEC+ ministers agree to cut production by 2M barrels per day
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/opec-ministers-agree-cut-production-2m-barrels-per-day
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And apparently the above is Trump's fault because the Saudis want their pet back
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MBS leading the charge to CUT oil production a month from the midterms should be viewed as a deliberate political act. The Saudis want Trump to be president so they get total impunity for their human rights abuse, and staff like Kushner they can buy and sell. No more fist bumps.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/05/tommy-vietor-knows-exactlu-how-trump-fits-into-saudi-arabias-push-to-cut-oil-output-right-before-the-midterms/
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Seeing some messages from some of my liberal friends who are just shitting themselves that the Saudis are doing this now and not in the middle of November.
I am HUGELY sympathetic to their pain, so much so that... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
sorry, just couldn't keep a straight face while typing that!
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Seeing some messages from some of my liberal friends who are just shitting themselves that the Saudis are doing this now and not in the middle of November.
I am HUGELY sympathetic to their pain, so much so that... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
sorry, just couldn't keep a straight face while typing that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfmVBmDKLZI
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These people would absolutely melt down at the violence and white privilege of that clip.
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The admin responses
Who needs a strategic reserve when you're suppose to be buying electric cars anyway?
Biden to release 10M more barrels from Strategic Petroleum Reserve in November in wake of OPEC+ cuts
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-release-10m-more-barrels-strategic-petroleum-reserve-november-wake-opec-cuts
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The admin responses
Who needs a strategic reserve when you're suppose to be buying electric cars anyway?
Biden to release 10M more barrels from Strategic Petroleum Reserve in November in wake of OPEC+ cuts
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-release-10m-more-barrels-strategic-petroleum-reserve-november-wake-opec-cuts
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeT39-CXEAAcqdK?format=jpg&name=large)
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Why would we need a strategic oil reserve? Will we need to strategically destroy the environment? Buy electric cars, you stupid deplorables!
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Why would we need a strategic oil reserve? Will we need to strategically destroy the environment? Buy electric cars, you stupid deplorables!
... and recharge them with electricity from coal-fired power plants.
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Not much of a reaction among the commodity traders. WTI is up just $1.30, Brent is up $1.67, and RBOB is down 2.49 cents. I'm guessing they have already factored in the cuts and Biden's upcoming raids on the national petroleum reserve.
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Article in CNBC saying that the US is reacting angrily and strongly to the OPEC+ move, and that it "could backfire on Saudi Arabia."
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/06/oil-us-delivers-angry-rebuke-of-massive-opec-production-cut.html
"“In light of today’s action, the Biden Administration will also consult with Congress on additional tools and authorities to reduce OPEC’s control over energy prices,” the White House said."
In other words...
"The administration is deeply troubled that a rise in oil and gasoline prices might interfere with the rightful Democratic victory in the November elections. We see this as clear evidence of Donald Trump colluding with both Saudi Arabia and Russia, and we are working closely with Hillary Clinton to manufacture the corroboration needed to prove treason.
Make no mistake. This administration will do everything in its power to break OPEC's control of the world's oil prices, including further crippling our strategic posture by releasing even MORE oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in an effort to buy votes in November ... EXCEPT we will not pump American oil or dig American coal out of the ground. We won't do that because American-based energy production is racist."
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That's a succinct and reasonable analysis.
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There's at least one international oil markets analyst saying that this is a direct and very personal OPEC+ "*expletive deleted*ck you, Joe Biden" finger in the eye over Biden's push for Russian oil price caps and the proposed NOPEC legislation and an indication that OPEC is moving to re-establish its dominance over world oil markets now that the United States has completely surrendered its desire and ability to counter OPEC through encouraging domestic production.
In other words, OPEC+ sees, and is treating, Biden as a loud, yappy, but completely toothless dog. The problem is, Biden and his cronies are too *expletive deleted*ing stupid to understand just how much contempt OPEC has for them.
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In other words, OPEC+ sees, and is treating, Biden as a loud, yappy, but completely toothless dog. The problem is, Biden and his cronies are too *expletive deleted*ing stupid to understand just how much contempt OPEC has for them.
Spot on.
I saw that Brandon had a hot mike moment where he was caught saying, "Nobody *expletive deleted*s with a Biden". It looks like somebody is *expletive deleted*ing with a Biden. :rofl:
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5565994240/h57F83495/when-you-find-youre-in-a-hole)
Meanwhile the Dems
(https://y.yarn.co/22447959-e41c-4055-b589-648f54e2643c_text.gif)
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Brandon has a plan to increase "our production".
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/06/unbelievable-biden-admin-has-a-plan-to-increase-oil-production-no-not-in-the-us-just-guess-where/
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Uhm....
What's not said is that Venezuela is a member of OPEC+...
So Sniffy Joe continues to grovel to OPEC.
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Question just popped up in my head
Where is most of our oil? In red states or blue states?
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Question just popped up in my head
Where is most of our oil? In red states or blue states?
Pretty sure red states -- Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana.
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Now this braindead administration is talking about holding off all new offshore leases until 2028.
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$3.99 here in SW Ohio. Jumped $0.34 overnight
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The highest I saw during today's 3 state ride ( Oklahoma, Missouri and Arkansas) was $3.59.
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Gas had gone down to $3.29 at the Global station near my house.
It's now back up to $3.40.
Let's Go, Joe! Get Maduro pumping!
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$3.19 --> $3.41
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Today the DOW is down 400, oil is up nearly $3 a barrel to over $91, OPEC+ is once again telling America to go *expletive deleted*ck its infidel self...
This isn't the October surprise I was expecting, but I'll take it.
Joe, Joe, he's our man, if he can't sink us no one can!
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Today the DOW is down 400, oil is up nearly $3 a barrel to over $91, OPEC+ is once again telling America to go *expletive deleted*ck its infidel self...
This isn't the October surprise I was expecting, but I'll take it.
Joe, Joe, he's our man, if he can't sink us no one can!
Time to start moving the Patriots out of the Saudi fields and pipeline runs. Iran seems to have upgraded the GPS targeting of their drones from some recent field test feedback.
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The Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle, is at $ 5.06/gallon this morning.
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Just paid $3.29 at Sams. Had to waiting in a freaking line to get to it though.
Lets Go Brandon!
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I just saw that Economic genius Newsom is raising taxes on oil companies in Cali to get them to lower their prices. ;/
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I just saw that Economic genius Newsom is raising taxes on oil companies in Cali to get them to lower their prices. ;/
sounds about right
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I just saw that Economic genius Newsom is raising taxes on oil companies in Cali to get them to lower their prices. ;/
Who makes more, way more, on each per gallon of gas sold, Cali or the oil companies?
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Seems to be standard dem economic logic nowadays. The more you make something cost to produce the cheaper it is.
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I filled up at the discount club on the way home from work this evening. $3.079 for unleaded regular.
Last Friday it was $2.989
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According to my Fuelly app, gas at the Marysville Costco has gone up $ 1.11 per gallon over the past three weeks. $ 3.95 on September 15th to $ 5.06 today.
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Valero responds to California.
Bravo Zulu.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/08/brutal-indictment-calif-dems-demanded-energy-companies-explain-why-gas-prices-are-so-high-and-one-company-was-happy-to-help/
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That was a pretty good response. I'd like to see a couple companies just say "It would be better for us to just not do business in California."
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Valero responds to California.
Bravo Zulu.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/08/brutal-indictment-calif-dems-demanded-energy-companies-explain-why-gas-prices-are-so-high-and-one-company-was-happy-to-help/
It is being done intentionally, they don't give a *expletive deleted*ck what you say. Words don't stop psychopaths.
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In the past 7 - 10 days, prices in this area have risen 30 - 50 cents. They range from $3.989 - $4.299 as of this afternoon.
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Went through a near by small (~3k) town today. Prices are up >$0.26/gal. The Murphy's, usually the lowest, is $3.26, Valero & Exxon @ $3.19 and the Circle K alongside the freeway is $3.36.
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Can't say I'm shocked or surprised
This would be getting insane circus level 24/7 coverage if it was Trump
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The White House pushed for Riyadh to use its weight in OPEC+ to delay a production cut for one month (after the US midterm elections, in which the Democrats are facing stiff challenges), according to this press release by the Saudi MFA.
Everything just getting WORSE for Democrats as Saudi Arabia outs Biden for BEGGING OPEC to delay production cut until after midterms
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/13/everything-just-getting-worse-for-democrats-as-saudi-arabia-outs-biden-for-begging-opec-to-delay-production-cut-until-after-midterms/
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Can't say I'm shocked or surprised
This would be getting circus level insane 24/7 coverage if it was Trump
Everything just getting WORSE for Democrats as Saudi Arabia outs Biden for BEGGING OPEC to delay production cut until after midterms
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/13/everything-just-getting-worse-for-democrats-as-saudi-arabia-outs-biden-for-begging-opec-to-delay-production-cut-until-after-midterms/
Biden seems to spend a lot of time on his knees facing Riyad...
I didn't even know that he's Muslim.
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Biden seems to spend a lot of time on his knees facing Riyad...
I didn't even know that he's Muslim.
Corn-Pop converted him.
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Corn-Pop converted him.
Was that when he was in a south African prison for trying to visit Nelson Mandela?
Or just during the course of his hairy-legged summer lifeguard job?
Paid $509 for diesel at the pump. Gas here is $3.89-3.99. I got some non ethanol gas for $4.69 for my small engines, mainly the log splitter and chain saws this time of year.
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"Paid $509 for diesel at the pump. Gas here is $3.89-3.99. I got some non ethanol gas for $4.69 for my small engines, mainly the log splitter and chain saws this time of year."
You should be on your knees begging Biden for forgiveness for raping Mother Earth for her vital life fluids and polluting Brother Sky with your cylinder farts.
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I stopped at the discount club on the way home from work today. $3.179 for unleaded regular.
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Up about 20 cents a gallon here in Northern Virginia since Brandon went begging... and failing.
I posted on my Facebook page about Brandon's attempting to collude with the Saudis to influence the mid-term elections, and pointed out that had Trump done that, we'd STILL be seeing 24x7x365 exclusive coverage of SAUDGATE, OIL ON THE SAND! on CNN and MSNBC...
Funny how none of the I LOVE BIDEN SO MUCH AND HATE TRUMP EVEN MORE toads have come out to fight me on that...
I guess they know their Emperor forgot to put on his new clothes... Because he's senile...
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Hey, no worries everyone... The White House Press Secretary has announced that right this minute, the typical two driver household is saving over $120 a month at the pump!!!!!!!
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....(since June).
These *expletive deleted*ing people...
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I drive to work and Dr. appointments - that's it. Straight there & back again.
I've spent $186.00 in gas for far this month. $28 this morning for 1/2 tank, which is what I used to pay for a full tank.
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$3.51. Up .06 from Monday. It was $75 to fill up today. This crap is killing me.
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$3.51. Up .06 from Monday. It was $75 to fill up today. This crap is killing me.
Man, I wish I paid only $ 3.51, as opposed to $ 4.75 per gallon.
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It went up to $3.57 at the Global near my house, then down to $3.53, and I think it's back to $3.57.
The other stations are a bit higher, except for the new Wawa, which is at $3.55.
I got gas there the other morning, not because it's 2 cents cheaper, but because they've got, by far, the best freaking coffee.
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Here's Brandon
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfdGpUnXEBYnrfJ?format=png&name=small)
I can feel prices coming down already
That #2 How do you refill it at a profit? :facepalm:
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Anyone remember how the dems howled when Trump wanted to stock up on oil when it was practically free?
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That #2 How do you refill it at a profit? :facepalm:
If they are selling off the reserve at market rates now and the price goes down before it is refilled then a profit will have been made.
Of course, that requires that the price will fall before it is refilled.
It would be more accurate to say that it is being sold at a profit now, and they hope to refill it at a lower rate than they are selling it for now.
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If they are selling off the reserve at market rates now and the price goes down before it is refilled then a profit will have been made.
Of course, that requires that the price will fall before it is refilled.
It would be more accurate to say that it is being sold at a profit now, and they hope to refill it at a lower rate than they are selling it for now.
I see said the blind man
So they're basically gambling with our tax dollars
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Everyone needs to remember that Donal Trump tried to start refilling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in 2020, when prices had cratered, but Congressional Democrats refused.
And WHY did Congressional Democrats refuse to refill the SPR?
Because it was just a Trump boost to his big oil buddies! ORANGE MAN BAD! ORANGE MAN BAD!
Now we have Biden suctioning the SPR like a leech to try to prop up his party during the midterms, and our strategic readiness is the worst it's been in decades.
Nothing like saying "*expletive deleted*ck America's defense posture because we want to *expletive deleted*ck Donald Trump!
Yet another reason why I hate liberals.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-strategic-petroleum-reserve-dems-shut-down-trump-refill-effort
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Oh, and even better? The Dementia Administration is looking at shutting down all future offshore Atlantic and Pacific drilling.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-weighs-complete-block-offshore-oil-drilling-gas-prices-keep-rising
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Oh, and even better? The Dementia Administration is looking at shutting down all future offshore Atlantic and Pacific drilling.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-weighs-complete-block-offshore-oil-drilling-gas-prices-keep-rising
Well that'll be sure to bring down the prices in the future.
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Well that'll be sure to bring down the prices in the future.
Well if it doesn't they'll know who to blame
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I have absolutely no doubt that the ONLY reason that Biden is giving any effort or lip service to trying to either stabilize or bring pump prices down is because of the mid terms.
If this were December of this year, or especially if this were in his second term, he wouldn't care about bringing prices down, and I really have to wonder if he wouldn't be working extra hard to drive prices as high as he could get them all in an effort drive people to renewable energy even faster.
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Fun times. I don't drive a diesel, but it occurs to me that my gasoline is delivered by a diesel truck.
Diesel Crisis Deepens As Inventories Fall To Dangerous Levels
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Diesel-Crisis-Deepens-As-Inventories-Fall-To-Dangerous-Levels.html
Global diesel and other distillate fuel stocks have been on the decline for a while now, and there is no reversal of this trend in sight. Demand, on the other hand, has been growing, leading to a widening shortage.
The situation has become so grave that U.S. buyers have begun snapping up diesel cargos originally sailing for Europe.
Reuters reported earlier this month that at least three tankers carrying diesel from the Middle East had changed their course mid-journey and were now traveling to the United States. And this new competition is about to intensify.
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still over 5 dollars here, I have pawned four guns and paying the tax on them to keep them
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Price that the Global down the street dropped to $3.35 today.
At the WAWA it's $3.39.
At the Shell across the street (where I use my grocery store gas rewards) it's $3.65 still.
WTI was down 19 cents a barrel today, but RBOB was up 8 cents a gallon.
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Gas today was lower than I've seen it in I don't know how long - $3.09.
Still too high.
Let's go Brandon! /s
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$3.99 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle. When I last filled up there on 10/7/2022, it was $ 4.99 per gallon.
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Got a weird situation here near where I live...
One station, the Global, has been falling.
The other stations in the area have been... rising.
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It's $3.04 at a couple local stations, the other two are $3.19.
As I was pulling into the station this evening the radio news ran a spot about how gas prices are rising. I'd planned to fill all the empty cans before the election, looks like Thurs. will be the day.
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"Name brand" regular gas is currently running between $3.099 and $3.399.
I think I saw it for $2.999 but it may have been a promotional price if you were using their credit card.
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$3.99 this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle. When I last filled up there on 10/7/2022, it was $ 4.99 per gallon.
Dammit your AO is cheaper than mine again. $4.15 at my Costco. Pacific Northwest gas prices are weird.
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Fun times. I don't drive a diesel, but it occurs to me that my gasoline is delivered by a diesel truck.
Diesel Crisis Deepens As Inventories Fall To Dangerous Levels
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Diesel-Crisis-Deepens-As-Inventories-Fall-To-Dangerous-Levels.html
We better hope we can keep awash in diesel or it will collapse the economy. Not may, will.
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Filled up at the discount club on the way home from work today. $3.499 for unleaded regular.
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Price at the Global went from $3.279 this morning to $3.439 this afternoon.
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Regular e10 went down $0.02 overnight to $3.04.
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I drove 30 minutes into CA (Shoshone) today and diesel was 7.19 a gallon. Glad I wasn't buying.
bob
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I was wrong on prior post. A picture says it all.
(https://i.imgur.com/RsmbtRt.jpg?2)
bob
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I'm surprised no one has stolen their wagon in an attempt to replace the car with a more affordable hay burner.
The Global down the street from me?
Overnight it went $3.439 to $3.379.
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I need to tank up the Scooby today.
I have enough grocery store rewards points to get $1 a gallon off.
Nice.
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The local Murphy's & Brookshire's e10 low test is down to $2.99.
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Is there anything to the rumor about diesel shortage? I've heard various numbers between 2 weeks to 2 months before we supposedly run out of diesel and our society comes crashing down.
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$3.81 for regular for the F250 and $4.60 for premium in my Mercedes today.
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Is there anything to the rumor about diesel shortage? I've heard various numbers between 2 weeks to 2 months before we supposedly run out of diesel and our society comes crashing down.
Well...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=diesel+shortage
Those, however, are stories from mainstream style media, which you obviously can't trust because it's false mind control news.
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On the diesel shortage, in my own reading I've found it interesting that stories I have read about "We're all gonna die!" and "Don't worry, it's overblown." have been coming almost equally from both the right and left. Usually something like this has some partisan component, but I haven't seen it here in my own reading, for whatever that may mean.
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IT'S SO OVERBLOWN WE'RE GONNA DIE!!!!!
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I never hear about biodiesel anymore. I wonder why.
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FL had a gas tax holiday in Oct, but now Tampa prices are at 3.39 a gal. Diesel is over $5/gal still. I just looked at my statement, and from Oct 8 to today, during the tax holiday, the wife and I spent $475.71 on gas. It'll be over $500 this month.
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Here is Biden shouting “No more drilling. There is no more drilling!” at a rally with New York Gov. @GovKathyHochul @KathyHochul
Time stamp: 1:32:03https://t.co/PNPYHnaro6
— Michael Shellenberger (@ShellenbergerMD) November 7, 2022
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/07/michael-shellenberger-takes-biden-apart-in-brutal-thread-over-his-no-more-drilling-comments/
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Gas at the local grocery (Brookshire's) dropped another $0.10 overnight. It's now down to $2.89. Diesel's still at $4.55.
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Prices have been bouncing around at the stations near my house the last couple of weeks here in Northern Virginia.
At the Global down the street from me they went from $3.35 to $3.43 to $3.57 for regular unleaded in the span of about a week a few weeks ago. They held at $3.57 until about 3 days ago when they fell back to $3.37 quite rapidly.
The other stations haven't been bouncing around as much, but they're also slowly coming back down.
And, today, crude prices are flirting with dropping below $80 a barrel.
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Paid $2.999 at the local Exxon yesterday.
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Holy flipping balls! Crude is down $3.50 a barrel right now to $78 and change.
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Locally, the prices are $2.83 to $2.94.
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Holy flipping balls! Crude is down $3.50 a barrel right now to $78 and change.
I’m sure Biden will be along shortly to reverse that
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I’m sure Biden will be along shortly to reverse that
While telling us what a wonderful Christmas gift he gave us in personally rolling back the prices all by his very self.
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Port Arthur refinery is back online after being shutdown for a while for repairs and upgrades.
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I never hear about biodiesel anymore. I wonder why.
It's not a winter blend due to gelling reasons, so I'm told.
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It's not a winter blend due to gelling reasons, so I'm told.
Interesting thing I wasn't aware of. Does biodiesel not react to anti-gel additives like dino diesel does?
Tangent: Holy hell, I had to go to three different places this month before I found anti-gel to stick in the tractor and spare diesel cans.
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"Tangent: Holy hell, I had to go to three different places this month before I found anti-gel to stick in the tractor and spare diesel cans."
Supply chain issues?
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Supply chain issues?
IDK. It could be, or it could just be regional demand and me not remembering to get a can of it till NOV instead of buying it in AUG.
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"Tangent: Holy hell, I had to go to three different places this month before I found anti-gel to stick in the tractor and spare diesel cans."
Supply chain issues?
Well the midwest got Jan cold in mid November.
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And today the cheap stuff's down to $2.78.
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$3.04 Yesterday.
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$3.95 at the Marysville Costco this morning.
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Apparently, China has also cut oil imports too, so that might cause some price easing.
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WTI crude is down over $4 a barrel to the mid 70s on news that OPEC+ is discussing boosting production.
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$2.94 today.
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One station in this area is down to $3.699 while most of the rest are at least 5 cents higher. Some are still over $3.80.
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Well that was certainly short-lived.
Not long after I posted yesterday the price of oil recovered all it had lost (in about 10 minutes of trading, apparently) then ended higher for the day.
Today it's up $1.50 a barrel because the Saudi oil ministry said OPEC+ is sticking with their output cuts and may take "additional steps to balance the markets."
Which will undoubtedly lead to Biden once again going to the Saudis on his knees to beg for more oil.
Oh, wait, the elections are over. He no longer gives a *expletive deleted*ck how much gasoline costs because Americans should be punished heavily for daring to use gasoline.
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Oh, wait, the elections are over. He no longer gives a *expletive deleted*ck how much gasoline costs because Americans should be punished heavily for daring to use gasoline.
Why don't you quit whining, get your patriot on, and go out and buy a $60K evehicle and a $30K solar system for your house, and do your duty as an American to get us off oil and save yourself money at the same time? Brandon is giving you a win-win and you're blowing it!
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Oh, wait, the elections are over. He no longer gives a *expletive deleted*ck how much gasoline costs because Americans should be punished heavily for daring to use gasoline.
Expect wall to wall "look at what those darn Rs did!" through to 2024 from both him and the media
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WTI is down almost $4 a barrel again today.
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3.139 for e-10 in Mason City, IA.
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$2.87 this afternoon.
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We're at $3.27 at the Global down the street from me, and a few pennies more at the stations around the corner.
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$4.21 just now in podunkville.
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If nothing changes for the holiday, I'll pay $3.24 in the morning but get .17 back per gallon. I'll see what tomorrow brings
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23 November: $3.299 for unleaded regular at the discount club on my way home from work.
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Down to $3.25 at the Global down the street.
Kerosene at the same station (one of the few that sells it in my area) is up to $8 a gallon.
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Kerosene at the same station (one of the few that sells it in my area) is up to $8 a gallon.
Holy crap! I have to fill a couple of 5 gallon cans in the next week. That price is a shocker. I'll report back on what it is here. We seem to also only have a few places that sell it form the pump in these parts.
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Yep, that's almost $70 per million BTU, making it, by FAR, the most expensive heating method in my area.
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Two stations in this area are down to less than $3.40. One is at $3.359 and the other is at $3.379.
All the rest are still over $3.70. ???
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Just filled up for $2.71/gal at Murphy's. Diesel was at $4.18.
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WTI just dropped below $74 a barrel, largely on the COVID protests that are spreading in China.
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$2.79 at the local Shell station. (They were closed for a couple of months with no explanation, so I wonder if this may be "old" gas that was in their tanks.)
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Finally broke below $4 here. I filled up at Costco for $3.89. Though it's still $4.12 in town here.
An another fuel, the propane guy came by yesterday and filled the tank for $2.69/gal, which I think is not too bad right now. He was last out in AUG and hit me for $2.49. Looking back, it was $2.89 DEC of last year. Though in OCT of that year, they filled me up for $1,91.
I still haven't made it to the kerosene place to see what they're going to rape me with.
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It just dipped to $3.15 at the Global station down the street.
Hang on, though, folks. Oil has been bumping up the last couple of sessions and is now over $80 a barrel again.
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2.809 is what I saw at the neighborhood Kwik Star
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$2.99 here in SW Ohio. Paid $2.89 with the Gas Buddy app.
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Paid $2.94 with the 10 cent/gallon discount at the Granite Falls Murphy station yesterday. That was the lowest I've paid in a long time.
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2 December -- $3.239 for unleaded regular at the discount club this evening.
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I paid $2.709 tonight
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In our wanderings yesterday, SWMBO and I ran across a local station with UL reg at $2.92. That's the lowest we've seen in the last year or better.
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4.37 at the cheapest place in Carson City, NV 4.70 the cheapest place in Reno, NV. - most places still over 5 bucks
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Buy an electric car they said. It will solve all your problems they said.
Meanwhile in Switzerland
Switzerland could ban electric vehicle use during energy crisis: reports
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/switzerland-could-ban-electric-vehicle-use-during-energy-crisis-reports
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Saw $2.629 in Garner, IA
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Saw $2.67 today at a local Shell station just west of Austin, TX.
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$2.64 in most places here. A couple of $2.59s spotted around.
Brad
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Down to $3.09 at the Global down the street.
I did a partial tank up at the WAWA early this morning for $3.13.
Crude is currently sitting right about $72.30 a barrel, and RBOB is down to $2.09.
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The WAWA has dipped to $2.999!
Woo hoo, thank you for your glorious leadership, Uncle Joe Biden!
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I filled up Saturday for $2.559
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So gas is going down, but food is going up...
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$2.529 in Mason City, IA last night.
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Gas *finally* dropped below $3 a gallon. $2.94 at Costco, Fleet Farm, and the KwikTrip across the highway from Fleet Farm. Other stations are split evenly, $2.99 or $3.04. I assume most of them will be $2.99 by tomorrow, and $2.94 or maybe $2.89 will be the floor for a while.
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Lots of $2.49s and a couple of $2.45s locally.
Brad
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Murphy's was $2.539 this afternoon. Same with the grocery store down the street.
10 miles down the road in a town of ~1,300, the cheap stuff was $2.739.
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The Exxon Station near my PT place (I've talked about it before, it's the only station along that stretch of road for several miles), is still sitting at $4.59 for regular unleaded.
They've always been rather insanely priced, but man, I'm really starting to think that they're just a money laundering front and are not really interested in selling gasoline at all.
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Anyone have a price on diesel?
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Anyone have a price on diesel?
$4.399 Mason City, IA
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Crude is back into the higher $70s today based on projections for increased demand next year, and RBOB is closing in on $2.23 a gallon.
Locally, the WAWA near my house is down to $2.95.
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Paid $2.499 at the Exxon station today in Bee Cave, TX, just west of Austin.
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4.099 diesel in Ellsworth, IA
3.239 gasoline in Ankeny, IA
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$3.999 Diesel in Boonedocks, IA.
Boonedocks is a truck stop/motel/restaurant in the middle of nowhere on I-35 in Iowa.
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Last weekend, my brother and I moved our mother to an assisted living facility near them where the grandkids and greats can visit her more than once or twice a year. On the way up, we got gas in Tuscola, IL, where gas was $2.729. Back near St. Louis on Monday, prices were still $3.299 and that may be because this area has to be in one of those "ozone zones" being near St. Louis. [barf]
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$3.999 Diesel in Boonedocks, IA.
Boonedocks is a truck stop/motel/restaurant in the middle of nowhere on I-35 in Iowa.
Face it. Iowa is in the middle of nowhere.
:rofl:
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Face it. Iowa is in the middle of nowhere.
:rofl:
And we like it that way... at least people don't crap on the sidewalk here.
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Middle of nowhere in the middle of nowhere.
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And we like it that way... at least people don't crap on the sidewalk here.
Now I have something to do next time I visit!
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Now I have something to do next time I visit!
Even squares can have a ball...
But "Iowa Nice" would be to use a plastic grocery bag to pick up your turd after you dropped a deuce and place it in the nearest trashcan.
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Even squares can have a ball...
But "Iowa Nice" would be to use a plastic grocery bag to pick up your turd after you dropped a deuce and place it in the nearest trashcan.
I'm not walking Seren...
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This is weird. Or maybe, it just shows us how we are being "gouged".
On the 11th, I was in Tuscola, IL and there were 2 stations there that had gas for $2.729 and $2.739. Most of the stations closer to the St. Louis area were ~$3.399.
On the 15th, two Circle K stations in this area had dropped to $2.899, a $0.30/gal drop, so I topped off again.
Went by those same stations today and both are back up to $3.279. (?!?!?) Go figure.
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Friday, 16 December:
$3.239 for unleaded regular at the discount club.
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Just can't seem to break below 2.30ish here.
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We're seeing $2.64 here.
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Down to $2.89 at a couple of stations near my house, including at the WAWA.
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$ 3.39/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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A tale of two Sam's
$2.93 at one, $2.52 at the other across town WTH?
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Down to $2.85.
A little later today I'm going to be using grocery rewards points to pay $2.29 a gallon.
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$2.49 at Buc-ees here. The Valero up the street was $2.99. Topped off the tank before the weekend.
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Yesterday Murphy's cheap stuff was $2.37, today it was $2.69. Diesel was $2.89, now it's $3.05.
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Well this is a pain in the arse...
Came back into town yesterday. The WAWA, Shell, and Sunoco near my house have all gone back up to $3.09 a gallon. Why? Not entirely sure.
The Shell, actually, hasn't budged. I paid $3.09 (less 80 cents a gallon reward points) when I tanked up just before I left for the holiday.
The odd thing is that the Global around the corner is still sitting at $2.82 a gallon. We'll see if that budges in the next couple of days.
I paid $2.69 a gallon in Castle Key's area.
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I finally got around to hitting the kerosene gas station today. It was $5.62, so either we're really cheap, or Mike's area is really expensive.
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I've not looked at the kerosene price in awhile, but I suspect that it hasn't budged. My guess is it's so expensive because it's a convenience item here in this area. As far as I know, it's the only station within about 10 miles of me that carries kerosene, and my guess is that they don't sell a lot of it.
I remember when I was heating primarily with a kerosene heater in my first apartment and I felt horribly abused that I had to pay $2+ a gallon for it. Only there (Lewistown, Pa), because of the Amish, just about every station carried kerosene, and as far as I know most still do.
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I've not looked at the kerosene price in awhile, but I suspect that it hasn't budged. My guess is it's so expensive because it's a convenience item here in this area. As far as I know, it's the only station within about 10 miles of me that carries kerosene, and my guess is that they don't sell a lot of it.
I remember when I was heating primarily with a kerosene heater in my first apartment and I felt horribly abused that I had to pay $2+ a gallon for it. Only there (Lewistown, Pa), because of the Amish, just about every station carried kerosene, and as far as I know most still do.
Where I get my kero is like 45 minutes away. It's the closest place I found. I don't really know what sources to use for locations - I kinda stumbled on this one after seeing a half dozen stations closer to me listed on the webz as having kero pumps but actually not having them. While "out of the way" just for fuel, it happens to be 10min from my Costco, so it's easy to combine trips.
I do know that Idaho seems to be pro-kero for heating and stuff, and not just in BFE. Even city people (I'm thinking "born and raised vs cali imports) seem to like to have kero emergency heaters and whatnot. I don't know how or if that affects price. Certainly on gas Mike, your AO is always way lower than mine. Kerosene seems to be the one exception.
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Well this is a pain in the arse...
Came back into town yesterday. The WAWA, Shell, and Sunoco near my house have all gone back up to $3.09 a gallon. Why? Not entirely sure.
Gas went up 30 to 40 cents a gallon locally three days ago. We went from a low of $2.59 back up to $2.99 at some stations. A few are now back over $3.00 a gallon.
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Popped up ~$0.20 here
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The Global down the street is still below $3 a gallon, but barely.
I'd say President Joe the Demented is striking again.
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Now, now. You guy's know Joe can take total credit for bringing the price down but as far as it going up you know full well the president has no control over gas prices.
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The gas price here hasn't gone up too bad, only ~$0.10 - $0.15/gal (87 octane w/ethanol). Diesel's around $3.60, depending on the station.
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Wow, crude and RBOB have been plummeting the last two days.
Crude is down over $7 a barrel yesterday and today.
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Gas went up 30 to 40 cents a gallon locally three days ago. We went from a low of $2.59 back up to $2.99 at some stations. A few are now back over $3.00 a gallon.
Up another 18 cents at some stations, to $3.17.
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Stopped at a Kwik Stop on the way home, paid $3.08. Drove across the overpass & saw it was $2.89 at the Circle K. :facepalm:
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Prices jumped between 20 and 25 cents a gallon at all of the pumps near my house in the last couple of days.
Wheeeeee...
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Prices jumped between 20 and 25 cents a gallon at all of the pumps near my house in the last couple of days.
Wheeeeee...
Prices here had dropped off, but were higher (similar amount) a day or two ago when I filled up last.
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$3.35 at the costco this morning.
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We had a 15 cent jump back to $3.19 over the last weekend.
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Weirdness with gasoline in my area the last couple of days, which are normally pretty well in lock step price wise.
The Global down the street hit $3.29 a gallon a few days ago, then dropped back to $3.27, and is now sitting at $3.25.
At the same time, the price on the main drag (the Global is just around the corner) at the Wawa, Shell, and Sunoco, have gone up to $3.49, and have sad there for a couple of days.
Hey Ben, I stopped for gas at the Global, which carriers kerosene... Price is $5.99 a gallon.
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Hey Ben, I stopped for gas at the Global, which carriers kerosene... Price is $5.99 a gallon.
Well, that's more in line with my area now. I should probably get another 5 gallons this week. We're supposed to be hitting single digits for most of next week, so the shop heater will be running a lot.
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we're still trudging along in the 50s most days and low 30s to low 40s for overnight. It's been that way for pretty much all of January. We've had very few days below freezing overnight, and we've had more than a few days that have been positively balmy.
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Most of the stations in this area have gone back up to $3.399 - $3.499 but I was lucky enough to find a station that hadn't gone up yet and filled up for $3.079 yesterday.
Part of that increase is because of the gas tax that IL-ANNOY gov. "Jabba" had postponed last July got tacked on on the 1st. And IL-ANNOY will get a second tax THIS summer too.
[barf] :facepalm:
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Well, the Global went up to $3.45 a gallon today. Whee...
Let's go Brandon!
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Well, the Global went up to $3.45 a gallon today. Whee...
Let's go Brandon!
Now you know a D president only have any control of the price of gas when it goes down and an R president only when it goes up.
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Prices locally have been a little off. The local grocery store & Murphy's are normally within a $0.01 of each other. The last week or so there's been as much as a $0.09 difference between the two. There are a couple other stations nearby that are normally $0.10 higher than the grocery & Murphy's, lately they've down to within $0.01. And the prices have changed as often as twice in one day, that I'm aware of.
Today, at 1645, the prices at Murphy & the grocery were the same at $3.05.
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I've been sick for a month, so I haven't followed local trends. This is my first week back at work since Christmas. Stopped at the discount club on my way home from work. $3.099 for unleaded regular.
Exxon station between there and home was $3.49 for unleaded regular.
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And the Wawa dropped 10 cents overnight, back to $3.39.
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And the Wawa dropped 10 cents overnight, back to $3.39.
Didn't know Barbara Wawa open her own gas station
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No idea why, but gas here jumped up about 25 cents yesterday.
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No idea why, but gas here jumped up about 25 cents yesterday.
Darn Trump, I mean Putin!
Well, same thing
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Didn't know Barbara Wawa open her own gas station
She's gotta do something with all of the time she has on her hands these days.
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Rep. Lieu: "I can summarize this debate of the last two days into one sentence: Joe Biden lowered your gas prices and Republicans are upset about it." pic.twitter.com/4xX5UUS20u
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 27, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/01/28/rep-ted-lieu-explains-that-republicans-are-upset-because-president-biden-lowered-gas-prices/
It's so low now it's double what it was. :facepalm:
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02/03/2023
$3.039 for unleaded regular at the discount club on the way home from work.
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Saw it at $2.99 yesterday. I haven't had to fill up for nearly two weeks, just haven't gone anywhere.
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It's dropped back to $3.29 a gallon here at the Global and the Wawa.
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Crude was down over $2 a barrel yesterday and RBOB dropped 13 cents a gallon.
I like those numbers.
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Crude was down over $2 a barrel yesterday and RBOB dropped 13 cents a gallon.
I like those numbers.
Be sure to thank Brandon.
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Gas has dropped back to $3.19 a gallon at a couple of stations near my house.
Can't be letting that happen, now can we?
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Filled up for $2.87 a gallon this morning
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Down to $3.15 a gallon.
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Putin sends it up
Biden brings it down.
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I see between $2.90 and $3.20 within a few minutes of my house... I'm guessing that the higher prices are mostly due to the high-traffic/high crime areas.
Propane was $4/gallon last week, when I topped off my jugs.
FWIW, I use it for supplemental heat for Really Cold Days - I turn on the Big Buddy 18k btu heater, and run it for an hour or three, depending, to get the house up to 70, then shut it off... I've used only one 20# jug so far this winter, and my electric is about $150 above the no heat/no ac baseline for the season... Mild winter here, for the most part.
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$3.039 for unleaded regular (10% methanol) at the discount club Friday evening (2-10-23).
Exxon station up the road from there a few miles has been at $3.499 for unleaded regular for several weeks.
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Down to $3.07 at the Global, and $3.09 at the Wawa.
I paid $2.39 at the Shell this afternoon after getting $1 a gallon off using my grocery store rewards points.
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Some drivers were reporting long lines and $1 price increases starting yesterday afternoon in Las Vegas. It seems a pipeline from Long Beach had a leak and was shut down, panic ensues!! :facepalm:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nevada-governor-declares-state-emergency-fuel-pipeline-leak-california-rcna70227
It isn't like it takes forever to fix, probably 12 hours tops.
People, what a bunch of maroons.
bob
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$2.89 at Murphy's this afternoon.
After doing a battery swap in the parking lot this afternoon I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the other stations' prices.
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Gasoline at the Global station down the street just dropped to $2.99.
First I've seen it under $3.00 in... we'll since early in the Joe Biden presidency.
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Gasoline at the Global station down the street just dropped to $2.99.
First I've seen it under $3.00 in... we'll since early in the Joe Biden presidency.
You mean since the very first day. The first, and I mean absolutely very first thing his puppet masters did was kill Keystone and spike gas prices. When you say "early in" you discount the immediacy and gravity of what happened.
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Diesel is $3.689 here.
E10 is $3.169
E-15 is $2.899
E-85 is $2.169
Not sure about No E 87 or 91.
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Last week gas dropped as low as $2.92 a gallon around me... now it's back up to $2.97.
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I only fill up about every 10-12 days or so. last I noticed it was $2.75 or E10. I think that was a week or more ago.
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We put ~200 mi on the car the last couple of days, driving around the local-ish area. Prices ranged from $2.71 to $3.19 for E10, $3.79 to $4.32 for diesel.
The Murphy's I normally fill up at went from $2.71 yesterday to $2.95 today for E10. But, they were out of everything but diesel & no-ethanol.
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$3.81 here.
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$2.959 for unleaded regular (10% ethanol) at the discount club on March 2.
The Exxon a few miles down the road had come WAAAAAY down -- all the way from $3.499 to $3.449.
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You mean since the very first day. The first, and I mean absolutely very first thing his puppet masters did was kill Keystone and spike gas prices. When you say "early in" you discount the immediacy and gravity of what happened.
Pardon me for not giving a minute by minute accounting of the rise in prices once the Enfeebler in Chief took office. ;/
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And we are back above $3 a gallon at the stations near me.
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First gas now diesel and I still haven't seen any plans to increase electricity production which already can't handle the current load.
The Biden administration will approve new California rules to cut tailpipe pollution and phase out sales of diesel-burning trucks, according to three people briefed on the plans, a move that could jump-start the nation’s transition to electric-powered trucks and help communities harmed by diesel pollution.
Another rule sets new sales requirements for truck makers. Beginning next year, manufacturers will have to sell increasing percentages of zero-emission trucks, buses and vans annually, eventually reaching a target of selling all-electric or hydrogen fuel-cell trucks by 2045. State officials estimate the rule would reduce emissions of carbon dioxide by 307 million metric tons by 2050.
Biden will let California lead on electric trucks, despite industry protest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2023/03/20/epa-california-waiver-electric-trucks/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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First gas now diesel and I still haven't seen any plans to increase electricity production which already can't handle the current load.
So I'm assuming this means no truck manufacturing in these states? I guess they'll also stop selling diesel? What about goods delivered to the states? How will trucks leave if they can't get fuel? What about trains?
New York, New Jersey, Oregon, Massachusetts, Washington and Vermont have agreed to adopt the sales mandate for zero-emission trucks. All except New Jersey have also committed to following California’s more stringent tailpipe pollution standards.
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So I'm assuming this means no truck manufacturing in these states? I guess they'll also stop selling diesel? What about goods delivered to the states? How will trucks leave if they can't get fuel? What about trains?
Of course they'll stop selling diesel! And only manufacture electric trucks.
How will the trucks leave? One of 3 things:
1 Convert to electric - at the owners expense
2 Don't come into the state to begin with - transfer stations at the borders
3 Pulled out with electric tow trucks - at the owners expense
I'm betting on #2 for both trucks & trains.
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$2.66 here yesterday.
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Well, it looks like the more expensive winter blend has been replaced with the more expensive oxygenated summer blend.
Prices went up by nearly 30 cents a gallon at several of the stations near me, now back up to $3.40 a gallon.
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This morning the local station is up to $2.74.
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$ 3.65/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 40 miles north of Seattle.
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$2.79 last week, $3.17 today.
$37.00 for 1/2 a tank in the Towncar.
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3.47 for gas
3.97 for diesel. I can't tell you the last time I saw diesel below 4 bucks a gallon.
Those are cash prices, credit is ten cents more per gallon.
bob
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Well, it looks like the more expensive winter blend has been replaced with the more expensive oxygenated summer blend.
Prices went up by nearly 30 cents a gallon at several of the stations near me, now back up to $3.40 a gallon.
Same here. We're around $3.35 - $3.39 a gallon.
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3.47 for gas
3.97 for diesel. I can't tell you the last time I saw diesel below 4 bucks a gallon.
Those are cash prices, credit is ten cents more per gallon.
bob
Well, that didn't last long, up to 4.07 for diesel, I didn't catch the gas price driving by.
bob
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March 28 -- $2.999 at the discount club
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Now we're up to $3.47 or thereabouts.
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3.15
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The WAWA near my house bumped up to $3.49 Thursday.
It's more expensive than the Shell and Sunoco down the street, which are both at $3.39.
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We're back up to $3.59 most places.
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Got gas this morning at the Global down the street. Still $3.17 there, but I'm sure that the price will jump up next time they get a tanker delivery.
Diesel at the WAWA is $3.81.
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OPEC and other countries are talking about a 1.5 million BPD cut this week. I'll fill up tomorrow and wait and see.
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OPEC and other countries are talking about a 1.5 million BPD cut this week. I'll fill up tomorrow and wait and see.
Yep, oil is up almost $5 a barrel.
And to think, that doddering, drooling *expletive deleted*ing mess of an idiot in the White House willingly gave up America's best weapon against OPEC the moment he set foot in office.
Analysts are warning about the possibility of $100 a barrel oil this summer.
Get ready for the real possibility of gasoline prices back over $4 and $5 a gallon.
Of course, that's Trump's fault...
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I had to make a trip down to OKC for my son in law's cancer surgery today.
Filled up this morning $2.97, Filled up on the way home for $3.29.
#FJB
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Analysts are warning about the possibility of $100 a barrel oil this summer.
Get ready for the real possibility of gasoline prices back over $4 and $5 a gallon.
Of course, that's Trump's fault...
The speech has already been written.
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$3.099 for unleaded regular at the discount club on April 5.
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$3.59 at the Marysville Costco and $4.06 at the Lake Steven's Costco this morning.
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Price has been bouncing around here in Northern Virginia for the last couple of days...
WAWA popped to $3.49 a few days ago, then dropped back to $3.34, and this morning it's back up to $3.49.
Other stations have had similar bounces.
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Just stopped by the local Murphy's to fill up. Low test E10 was $3.01, diesel was $3.28 and non-ethanol was $4.39.
Fortunately, the only equipment I now have that use non-ethanol are a chainsaw & string trimmer.
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I am tempted to fill up with non-ethanol gas in my Tacoma just see how it handles it, but it is running fine with ethanol gas so I doubt I will do it.
5 gallons of non-ethanol gas runs my mower for a year. I can stick with that.
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In Pahrump regular is 3.48 and diesel is back to 3.97. Add about 50 cents a gallon in Las Vegas,
bob
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I am tempted to fill up with non-ethanol gas in my Tacoma just see how it handles it, but it is running fine with ethanol gas so I doubt I will do it.
5 gallons of non-ethanol gas runs my mower for a year. I can stick with that.
My ride-on mower went through >3.5 gal the other day, and that didn't finish the yard....
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It was $3.09 yesterday. today it is $3.34.
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Been wavering around in a fairly tight band the last couple of weeks. Right now it's sitting at $3.35 at the WAWA, $3.33 at the Global, $3.49 at the Sunoco, and $3.59 at the Shell.
I'm about to use rewards points to get $1.50 a gallon off at the Shell. =)
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I filled up a week or so ago for $2.99 now it's up to $3.19.
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$3.59
Benn going up steadily for a couple of weeks now.
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It's went from $2,89-$3.49 over the last couple of months here.
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I should add it usually does go up right before Derby.
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Glad we got a strong president to take care of this.
The capture on Thursday of the Turkish-managed, Chinese-owned Advantage Sweet represents the latest tanker seizure by Iran amid tensions with the US over Tehran's burgeoning nuclear program.
Tehran claims the tanker was seized after it 'collided' with another Iranian vessel -- but has provided no evidence yet to support the claim, and Iran has taken other ships as bargaining chips in negotiations with the West.
Chilling moment Iranian navy seizes US-bound oil tanker 'Advantage Sweet' in helicopter raid in Gulf of Oman - with one masked commando seen punching his fist in celebration
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12025697/Chilling-moment-Iranian-navy-seizes-bound-oil-tanker.html
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$3.09, Hannibal, MO
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The local Murphy stayed at $3.29 for both low test & diesel for the last couple of weeks. Thought it strange that the price didn't change for that length of time, and that diesel was the same price as gas.
They changed the prices today. Gas is now $3.19, diesel is even less at $3.18.
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I filled up a week or so ago for $2.99 now it's up to $3.19.
It hasn't been below $3 here since a month after Brandon took office. (Where's the blasted angry icon??)
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Diesel is 4.29 in Pahrump.
Today in Las Vegas I saw diesel running 4.49 to 4.89
bob
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(Where's the blasted angry icon??)
Think we wore it out
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Think we wore it out
Then clearly there IS still some intelligent life on this planet!
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Then clearly there IS still some intelligent life on this planet!
Yes, there is. But it is going home next Tuesday.
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Oil is taking a pounding in the markets today, back down to $72 and change a barrel at the moment.
RBOB is currently down 9 cents a gallon.
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Oil is taking a pounding in the markets today, back down to $72 and change a barrel at the moment.
RBOB is currently down 9 cents a gallon.
Time for Brandon to make a speech.
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Filled up for $3.09 yesterday.
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$3.59
See if it goes downs after Derby
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Oil is down over $4 and under $72 a barrel.
RBOB is down 11 cents a gallon.
Apparently OPEC is talking even more production cuts, and it's having little to no effect on the price.
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$3.229 for unleaded regular (with methanol) at the discount club on Monday, 5/1/2023.
$3.749 up the road at the Exxon station.
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WTI crude has dropped below $70 a barrel.
RBOB is currently sitting at $2.39 a gallon, down another five cents.
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WTI crude has dropped below $70 a barrel.
RBOB is currently sitting at $2.39 a gallon, down another five cents.
Well Iran is trying to put the brakes on that, they seized another tanker. 2nd in a week.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-seizes-second-oil-tanker-week-us-navy-says
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Looks like it's time for the US Navy to start escorting tankers through the straits again.
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Looks like it's time for the US Navy to start escorting tankers through the straits again.
Too busy performing drag shows
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Well Iran is trying to put the brakes on that, they seizes another tanker. 2nd in a week.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-seizes-second-oil-tanker-week-us-navy-says
I just read that story and am wondering what's going on. It was heading to the UAE. The story is short on info on the "why", and I am wondering why other ME countries might not be getting riled by this?
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I just read that story and am wondering what's going on. It was heading to the UAE. The story is short on info on the "why", and I am wondering why other ME countries might not be getting riled by this?
While the other ME countries are no doubt getting tired of this, it's always been the US that has stepped in and done something about it. I'm sure they are sitting on their hands waiting for us to thwack Iran on the wrist again.
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Still 3.49 here today.
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Dropped 10 cents a gallon at the Shell near my house, to $3.49.
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We've dropped to $3.25 - $3.29 in this area.
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3.50 here but the interesting thing is diesel is within forty cents. Weak industrial demand I suspect.
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Thought some of you may find this interesting.
How much oil is left?
Popular Mechanics May 1944
In a nutshell, don't worry, there's plenty of oil in Venezuela and the MI that we will have no problem getting.
https://books.google.com/books?id=hd8DAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=RA1-PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Oil just dropped below $68 a barrel.
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Gas just dropped another 10 cents at the Shell. Down to $3.35.
Oil is slowly moving back up, though.
Damn, up almost $2 a barrel in pretrading.
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Saw $2.99 this morning.
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Looks like it's time for the US Navy to start escorting tankers through the straits again.
China has such a big Navy these days (everyone says so). Why don't they send some destroyers to escort tankers? Surely they have the range and capability to operate beyond the South China Sea.
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China has such a big Navy these days (everyone says so). Why don't they send some destroyers to escort tankers? Surely they have the range and capability to operate beyond the South China Sea.
I'd rather they didn't. One of the few things we have going for us over the Chinese fleet is our blue water and "world" experience. The Chinamen have been using their fleet more like a Coast Guard. No need to give them experience elsewhere. =)
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Saw $3.09 at the Sunoco down the hill while we were running around this afternoon. Everyone else is $3.19 or a few cents more.
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Still $3.229 for unleaded regular (with 10% alky) at the discount club on the way home this evening.
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Murphy's 10% ethanol is down to $2.99, diesel is $3.08. The local Exxon is $3.19 for gas, $3.58 for diesel.
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Had to take the girl down to the far SW corner of Missouri this morning for Colledge orientation. Saw it for $2.89 at several stations in that area. Still $3.49 by me.
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Huh.... stations around me have stabilized in the $3.27 to $3.39 a gallon range...
Until yesterday, when the price at Wawa jumped to $3.45.
Not sure what's up with that.
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$3.69 at the Costco yesterday.
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Yesterday I saw $2.99, today at $3.25
Thanks Joe.
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Went up to $3.29 around town over the weekend.
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Monday e10 was $2.99, today was $3.27. At the same station, diesel was $2.95, non-e was $4.29.
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Prices have been pretty steady here the last week or so. Most stations near me are in the $3.35 to $3.45 range.
Crude oil, on the other hand, has taken a bit hit the last two days. Last Friday it closed at around $73 a barrel. Right now in premarket it's sitting at $67.50.
RBOB is also dropping, but not nearly as much. My guess is that's being supported by the anticipated summer driving season.
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Oil and RBOB are dropping pretty hard today for some reason.
Oil's below $70 a barrel again. We'll see how long that lasts.
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North iowa has been in a price decline, I paid $3.169 the other day.
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North iowa has been in a price decline, I paid $3.169 the other day.
Can you send some of that (the decline) up this way? Thanks. It's still about $3.50 in MN.
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We're at $3.99 here.
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We're still hanging around $2.99, with diesel at $2.78.
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Locally, in Marysville, 40 miles north of downtown Seattle, current prices are $4.55/gallon plus or minus five cents.
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Can you send some of that (the decline) up this way? Thanks. It's still about $3.50 in MN.
$2.929 right now
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Running $3.09 to $3.19 around these parts.
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Been holding steady here in NOVA for a couple of weeks. The Global was down to $3.25 a gallon for awhile, but a few days ago it tipped up to $3.27.
The Wawa went up to $3.29.
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June 19: $3.359 for unleaded regular at the discount club
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Washington state has the most expensive gasoline:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/business/california-no-longer-most-expensive-gas/index.html
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Washington state has the most expensive gasoline:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/business/california-no-longer-most-expensive-gas/index.html
The story doesn't say, but I'm assuming new taxes? I know part of it is the same thing that affects ID, OR, and MT - refineries and geography.
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^^^ I wish. No, we in Washington are on the bleeding edge of fighting climate change!
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wa-gas-prices-now-highest-in-u-s-experts-point-to-new-climate-legislation/
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^^^ I wish. No, we in Washington are on the bleeding edge of fighting climate change!
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wa-gas-prices-now-highest-in-u-s-experts-point-to-new-climate-legislation/
Government charges companies a tax (or government imposed fee if you prefer), and then are shocked when that gets passed along to customers?
Wow, who could possibly have foreseen such a thing? As I've said before: Corporations do not pay taxes. Ever. Employees, customers, and shareholders pay all taxes assessed to corporations.
Of those three, usually it's going to be the customer. Governments know that, and don't care. It's a backdoor tax on everyone that they get to blame on the companies.
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Oil prices have been moving up steadily the past few days, now sitting at $77 and change for WTI, Brent is over $80.
Virginia raised its gas tax at the start of July, so wheeee... here we go with gas prices again.
Currently sitting in the $3.35 to $4.29 range in my area in Virginia, with most stations around $3.45.
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Prices here have been mimicking a mexican jumping bean. Went from ~$2.79 to $3.22 in two days. Stayed there for a while, dropped down to $2.99, then back up to $3.26, then down to $2.79 and now it's back up to $3.22. All in a period of ~3 weeks.
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Government charges companies a tax (or government imposed fee if you prefer), and then are shocked when that gets passed along to customers?
Wow, who could possibly have foreseen such a thing? As I've said before: Corporations do not pay taxes. Ever. Employees, customers, and shareholders pay all taxes assessed to corporations.
Of those three, usually it's going to be the customer. Governments know that, and don't care. It's a backdoor tax on everyone that they get to blame on the companies.
My instant IQ test is when someone says companies need to be taxed, I know they are a *expletive deleted*ing moron who shouldn’t be let outside unsupervised much less allowed to vote.
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Ugh. Crude is pushing to near $80 a barrel again, up over $2 a barrel today.
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Jumped from about $3.22 to $3.59 overnight Monday.
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Jumped from about $3.22 to $3.59 overnight Monday.
Yep, pretty much same here in Northern Virginia. And I've seen several stations moving closer, or even over, $4 a gallon for 87 octane.
Still outliers, but I think it's going to be a lot more common to see as we get deeper into the summer.
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Last weekend, regular @ Costco in Charlottesville was 2.99.
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$4.45/gallon this morning at the Marysville Costco, 45 miles north of Seattle.
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Jumped .25 cents here yesterday morning.
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$3.49 around here yesterday.
Thanks Joe.
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$3.49 around here yesterday.
Thanks Joe.
But he cured cancer
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$3.49 around here yesterday.
Thanks Joe.
But he cured cancer
And there's no more mean tweets.
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Jumped up from $3.39 to $3.69 today.
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Went from $3.21 on Monday to $3.43 today.
Lets go Brandon!
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The WAWA went from $3.53 to $3.65 yesterday. Price has been bumping up 5 cents every couple of days for the last few weeks. Other stations in my area are following suit.
With oil rising as it has been I think we're going to be seeing $4 a gallon in Northern Virginia a lot sooner rather than later.
There are a few stations that are already over $4, and have been for quite awhile, but those are the "I'm the only station for a couple of miles in either direction so time to be a gangsta', bitch!" stations.
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I just came back from family roadtrip to see Yellowstone National Park and Mount Rushmore. Gas prices were much less in every state we passed through (Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Wyoming) compared to WA. Including the gas stations INSIDE THE PARK. I filled up our non- roadtrip car for $4.65/gal a couple days before we left at our Costco. Several days later while inside Yellowstone the gas was barely over $4/ gal. I'll have to revise this after I get to go through my receipts, but that is just asinine. It's cheaper to fill up one of the most heavily visited places in the country than near my own suburban home.
*Update: $4.20/gal near our hotel in West Yellowstone on 7/16. $4.30/gal at Canyon Village inside Yellowstone on 7/18 Finally, $4.00/gal at West Yellowstone on 7/20. Here at home in Pierce County WA, $4.70/gal at Costco on 7/27. So at Yellowstone where you know they will charge more for convenience and the location, it's STILL cheaper than at home.
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$5.05 today in Kitsap county WA. for regular.
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$5.05 today in Kitsap county WA. for regular.
Yikes!
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Meanwhile
Ford set to lose $4.5 billion on electric vehicles this year, despite increased revenue
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ford-set-lose-billion-electric-vehicles-year-despite-increased-revenue
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Meanwhile
Ford set to lose $4.5 billion on electric vehicles this year, despite increased revenue
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ford-set-lose-billion-electric-vehicles-year-despite-increased-revenue
I read that this morning. Ford's comments seemed (to me) to insinuate that these were acceptable losses for the long term for them to be able to get an early upper hand in the EV game. Whether PR or fact, who knows?
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The propane guy just came by. $1.82/gal. That's pretty cheap. I'd have to check back in this thread, but I think I was paying $3ish last Winter/Spring.
Edit: Just looked. From my 01DEC22 post:
An another fuel, the propane guy came by yesterday and filled the tank for $2.69/gal, which I think is not too bad right now. He was last out in AUG and hit me for $2.49. Looking back, it was $2.89 DEC of last year. Though in OCT of that year, they filled me up for $1,91.
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Just filled up at Sam's $3.53
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Jumped up to $3.65 here this morning.
Thanks Joe.
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Most of the stations around me are now at $3.75.
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Filled up last night for $3.39.
Brad
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The next time I fill up it will probably in the $2.30 to $2.50 range because of the points I've accumulated from my grocery store card rewards.
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Went up another dime this week, from $3.43 to $3.53.
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:mad: Most station in this area of IL-ANNOY are running from $3.85 to $3.99/gallon. :facepalm: [barf]
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I see OR lifted the ban on self serve gas
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/oregon-motorist-express-confusion-excitement-social-media-following-lift-self-serve-gas-ban
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$3.35 yesterday for regular in Shreveport, La at one of the cheaper stations in town (Super1 Grocery Store pumps).
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Today was a banner day, it turned out that both cars needed gas, $88 to feed the Jeep Plus@ $4.25. Then it was $72 for the Challenger. $4.55 for super.
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Prices seem to have stabilized a little bit here in NOVA.
$3.75 to $3.79 and the stations around my house.
I filled up yesterday for $2.59 a gallon using my grocery store rewards points to bring the price down.
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$3.79 for regular here in coastal Georgia yesterday.
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Holy crap, I hadn't been paying attention to prices and filled up in town yesterday for $4.29. The last time that I paid attention it was like $3.80.
Of interest, the dog and me took a spur of the moment day trip to Ketchum yesterday, and gas just outside the resort town that's in BFE (as far as fuel transportation goes) was $4.09. I would have figure 20 cents higher, not 20 cents lower.
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It's actually dropped a bit here the last couple of days... from $3.75 to $3.69 at the WAWA.
Other stations are still at $3.79 and $3.75.
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Forty-ish miles outside Dallas it was $3.43 yesterday. At the city limits today it was $3.18.
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Saw it at $3.46 today.
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$3.579 for unleaded regular at the discount club on Wednesday (August 21). $4.069 at the Exxon station on the way home.
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Oil prices are pushing sharply higher this week... now above $85 a barrel for WTI.
Let's Go Brandon!
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Down in the big city (Las Vegas) yesterday I saw 4.59 for regular and 5.03 for diesel. Our prices run right at 50 cents per gallon lower across the board.
bob
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$ 4.65 yesterday at the Chevron station on the Tulalip reservation.
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9/1/2023: $3.579 for unleaded regular at the discount club. $4.099 at the Exxon station between the discount club and home.
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Lets go Brandon
My Administration is canceling all remaining oil and gas leases issued under the last administration in the Arctic Refuge and proposing to protect 13 million acres in the Western Arctic.
There's more to do, but we’re taking action to meet the moment for future generations.
— President Biden (@POTUS) September 7, 2023
Thank you, President Biden. pic.twitter.com/SKEoHowbWz
— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) September 7, 2023
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/09/07/dnc-thanking-biden-for-another-move-thatll-jack-up-gas-prices-gets-ratioed-into-the-sun-n2386947
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It's easy to imagine that by the end of the second Biden term, damn near all fossil fuel production will be shut down in the US. The way I expect it to go, coal will have been banned completely. New natural gas and oil production will be banned. Existing wells will be allowed to peter out. No new well drilling will be allowed. Refracking of old wells will be banned, as well.
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Lets go Brandon
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/09/07/dnc-thanking-biden-for-another-move-thatll-jack-up-gas-prices-gets-ratioed-into-the-sun-n2386947
Gas prices have jumped 50 cents a gallon here in the past 2 days. :mad: Not sure if they jumped today or yesterday cuz I didn't get out yesterday. It was quite a shock when I tried to fill up the car this afternoon. (so I just got $10 worth to put it off a week; I don't drive much) I wish I had filled the truck up a week ago.
I have oil and gas stocks and royalty trusts, and they don't seem to be doing much or else drifting down, so I don't think it's the evil oil companies doing the gouging. (they are evil, but I'm okay with that)
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Prices had been slowly trickling down over the past few weeks, but now prices are starting to move in the other direction.
Crude oil prices are also on the hard upswing right now, pushing $90 a barrel for WTI.
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I paid $3.44 last Wednesday. It was up to $3.74 yesterday. Just checked my ap and it is down to $3.70 today.
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I paid $3.699 a gallon this morning.
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I would say it has crept up here locally but I was out last night and diesel at the local Chevron was trying it best to punch through 5 dollars a gallon on the sign (4.999) so far all purposes it has hit 5 dollars a gallon again. Of course I knew the price was inching up the other day (9/8 was 4.529) when I filled less than half a tank (22 gallons) and when I looked the pump it was enthusiastically passing 100 dollars. Thankfully it stopped at 102, which it would not do today. :(
bob
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Still relatively low here at $3.489/gal for low test ethanol.
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We're running about $3.40 around here. If he keeps working at it Biden can push the prices up to $4 or $5 before the election.
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$3.95 when I was at Costco this morning. $4.19 in town.
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$3.599 last Thursday, $4.099 on Friday, $3.999 on Monday, $3.879 today.
I went to NW Wisconsin and back over the weekend, $180 was my fuel cost. Approx 500 miles.
My truck does get crap for MPG.
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Seeing $3.79 in the KC MO area this week.
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Odd thing going on in my area the last couple of weeks...
The price of crude has been going up pretty steadily the last few weeks. It's been over $90 a barrel, but today at least has dropped back under that level.
But gasoline in my area has been dropping in price.
The one station dropped 9 cents a gallon the last few days. Other stations have also dropped, but not by that much.
Weird.
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$3.669 for unleaded regular (methanol) at the discount club on 9/20.
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21.99 pesos per litre in La Cruz Huanacaxtle, Mexico today.
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Iraq says it wants to keep crude between $85-95 a barrel.
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21.99 pesos per litre in La Cruz Huanacaxtle, Mexico today.
Lets go Brando
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Down in the swinging city of Las Vegas today the gas was running around 5.49 a gallon, whuch was 10 cents more a gallon than diesel.
bob
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(sw IL-ANNOY near St. Louis) Two different Circle K stations, less than 5 mi. apart, are $0.23/gal different in price. One is $3.999 and the other is $3.669.
A few other stations are $3.669 but most are $3.979-$3.999. [barf]
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In the little burg 60 miles west of Las Vegas it was/is running 4.429 for gas and 4.779 for diesel :(
bob
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California:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7IQjB1WUAApqEL?format=jpg&name=small)
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^^^
In the meantime, haircut is "investigating price gouging". Maybe he should start with all the taxes his state charges on every gallon.
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/09/28/gov-gavin-newsom-floats-the-idea-of-a-price-gouging-penalty-for-gasoline-n2387894
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^^^
In the meantime, haircut is "investigating price gouging". Maybe he should start with all the taxes his state charges on every gallon.
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/09/28/gov-gavin-newsom-floats-the-idea-of-a-price-gouging-penalty-for-gasoline-n2387894
Quoted for truth.
The reason gas is so high in CA, NV and other places isn't because the gas companies hate them (well, maybe they do a little) but it is the taxes and regulations they place on gas that costs the manufacturer money which get passed on to the end user. But you will never hear them say that part out loud, "price gouging" is a more believable excuse for the unwashed masses.
bob
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$4.79/gallon at the Marysville Costco this morning.
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I was in Central Pennsylvania this weekend. Paid $3.995 for regular, nearly 50 cents a gallon more than in either Maryland or Virginia.
Pennsylvania used to be on par with Virginia price wise. Then the *expletive deleted*ing Democrats started spiking fuel prices. At one time around 2005-2010 or so Pennsylvania had the highest fuel taxes in the nation (now they've dropped back to third, but apparently the Dems want to boost gas taxes to $1 a gallon plus over the next year or two). Higher than California, even. And the roads in Pennsylvania STILL suck.
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I took my powerboat out for the last time this season on Saturday, I paid $4.299 for 91 Octane No E. My joke is that I'm going to take the boat out and spend $40 for a lap around the lake.
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$3.599 at the discount club, Monday, October 2.
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$3.85 here right now. It was $4.40 when I was in Baker City, OR a few days ago. They must have added some new state gas tax over there recently. In the past it has only been ~20 cents more in OR than in ID.
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We've been hovering around $3.29 the last couple of weeks in Hickory.
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I saw 3.109 in Ankeny, Iowa on 10-3-23
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Here (east of Dallas) the low stuff is running $3.29.
Talked with my brother the other day. He lives just south of Napa Valley in Calif. He said the gas there is at the $7.00 mark - but didn't specify what grade that was. I'd guess the high test ethanol, that's what he normally ran.
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We've been hovering around $3.29 the last couple of weeks in Hickory.
And yesterday it dropped to $3.19. I guess I spoke too soon.
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A couple of stations near me dropped in to the high $3.40s yesterday, down between 3 and 5 cents.
Crude oil prices have been dropping pretty hard this past week. Right now WTI is sitting at $82 and change a barrel, down over $10 in the past week.
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I did a quick trip about 30 miles away today into occupied California to a wide spot in the road on the way to Death Valley, Shosone, CA. The prices posted were : 7.639, 7.7739, 7.939 and 7.959 for diesel. They are trying real hard to stay below 8 dollars a gallon it seems.
bob
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Big prices demand big pictures! :rofl:
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Prices have actually dropped around here. As of yesterday, it was down to $3.08 for gas, and $3.83 for diesel.
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Prices have been slipping a bit here in Virginia, as well. Not much, but a few cents here and there.
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Price dropped 6 cents a gallon at a couple of stations near me.
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It's been over 4 for a while here in Idaho. With the way people drive around here, I've been hoping it goes up to 8 or 10. Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to this country in the long term would be a prolonged oil shock.
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WA, 4.99 reg 10% ethanol, 7.49 92 oct real gas.
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It has been dropping slightly around here. It was $3.399 for unleaded regular (10% alky) at the discount club on Sunday (October 9).
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$2.849 in Mt Pleasant, IA
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$3.29 today in Princeton, WV; Sheetz, just off I77. Lowest it's been in a while.
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North TX, $2.88 for gas, $3.83 for diesel.
Rolled the dice after work & didn't fill up. If my luck goes opposite of what it normally is, the price will continue to drop over the next two days.
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The cheap stuff is now down to $2.829. Diesel is $3.769 and non-ethanol is $3.929.
I'm glad the generator's the only thing that needs non-ethanol.
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Diesel is 4.52 in our little burg.
bob
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It dropped another couple cents here this week.
It's now down to $3.34 at the one station, and $3.35 at a couple others.
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$3.79 here in Illinois where we have something like the 2nd or 3rd highest state fuel tax.
We buy much of our fuel at Costco just over the Iowa border. $3.27 there last week.
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Seems to have bottomed out around $3.09 around here. No real change in the last week or so.
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$3.79 here in Illinois where we have something like the 2nd or 3rd highest state fuel tax.
We buy much of our fuel at Costco just over the Iowa border. $3.27 there last week.
Iowa is $0.245 tax per gallon on ethanol gasoline and $.030 tax per gallon on no E.
Illinois is $.039 tax per gallon. Is there local fuel taxes there too?
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Glad I filled the truck last night. Gas went up $0.17 overnight, it's now $2.99/gal. Diesel didn't move though.
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Iowa is $0.245 tax per gallon on ethanol gasoline and $.030 tax per gallon on no E.
Illinois is $.039 tax per gallon. Is there local fuel taxes there too?
Is that current? I thought one of Governor Jelly Belly Pritzker's first actions was to add .50 to the fuel tax. We are always 40-50 cents or more higher. I know semi truck drivers try not to fuel up here.
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Is that current? I thought one of Governor Jelly Belly Pritzker's first actions was to add .50 to the fuel tax. We are always 40-50 cents or more higher. I know semi truck drivers try not to fuel up here.
I just went off a website of gas taxes for every state.
I just found out that Illinois has some sort of variable gas tax (whatever that means), additional sales taxes on gas and local gas taxes. Eek.
Yep, when I go to the Nauvoo, IL area 2-3 time a year, I make sure I fill up in Iowa before I cross the crick.
I'll need to remember to do the same when I go to Muncie, IN in April 2024 to witness the eclipse.
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To my surprise, the price has dropped around here. I just paid $3.299 for unleaded regular gasahol at the discount club.
Last week it was $3.599
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Price dropped 2 to 3 cents at several of the stations around me.
Oil has been moving down this week. Today's it's down to $83.37 a barrel. RBOB is down to $2.26, down from its early August high of nearly $3 a gallon.
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One chain station down the hill from us just bumped their price twenty cents to $3.29. Haven't seen any others follow yet.
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Hum... Oil was down well over $2 a barrel earlier today.
Now it's recovering and is down $1.14.
I have a funny feeling it might end the day up a bit.
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And oil is SCREAMING back today on fears of escalation of the fighting in the middle east.
High gas and oil prices brought to you by the Biden-Fear coalition.
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High gas and oil prices brought to you by the Biden-Fear coalition.
That damn Putin tax!
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Saw $2.98 today.
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Seeing 2.94 in Nevada, MO. I need to take a trip down there this week.
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Lowest I've seen here in NOVA around my house is $3.29.
I paid $3.31 yesterday to top up the Forester.
And cool! I have enough grocery rewards points to get $1.50 a gallon off my next fill up next weekend.
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When I went to a certain Circle K station this afternoon, their listed price was $3.399 but I have one of their discount card that takes 10 cents off that price. Unfortunately, the card expires 12/31/23 and, to get that lower price, you have to give them access to your checking account.
Ain't gonna happen ! :facepalm: [barf]
Other stations in this area are still as high as $3.659.
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The station that bumped to $3.29 a week ago is back down to $3.07 as of yesterday.
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3.13 and my local station today.
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Dropped another few cents at the stations near my house. $3.25 at the Global and I think $3.27 at the Wawa.
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Interesting.
Even with the entire Middle East being a roiling shitshow of monumental proportions right now, oil has been dropping slowly. It's currently down $1.30 and is flirting with dropping below $81 a barrel.
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Saw $2.89 yesterday.
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The local Costco is now at $ 3.72.
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Local Murphy is now down to $2.62. I'd planned to fill up tonight, but there were relatively long lines & there was frozen food in the back seat. Way it's been dropping, it may even be lower tomorrow.
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Paid $2.99 today at the small town east of me.
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Friday, 11/3/2023
$3.259 at the discount club for unleaded ethanol regular.
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WTI ended yesterday down $1.57 to settle at $80.89 a barrel.
RBOB dropped 4 cents and now sits at $2.20 a gallon.
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My luck's still holding - price went up overnight to $2.67 for the cheap mix. Diesel's at $3.69 and non-ethanol is $3.85.
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3.13 a couple days ago. 3.49 this AM.
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Down to $2.99 in these parts. Don't know if it will last.
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Sam's $2.83
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WTI has dropped below $80 a barrel in early trading.
Apparently China's latest economic data isn't propping up the latest round of production cuts.
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I saw $2.749 at my neighborhood station last night.
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I paid $1.849 for a fill up this morning, courtesy of $1.50 off using my grocery store rewards points.
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Holy crap, WTI is sitting at $76 and change, down another $1+ today.
I like where this is going.
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Exxon regular was $2.739 yesterday, "only" about $0.84 more than the day before Brandon took office.
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WTI closed at $75 and change today. Lowest in 3 months.
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$4.13 for Super today. Didn’t notice the price of regular since neither car takes it.
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$4.13 for Super today. Didn’t notice the price of regular since neither car takes it.
Ouch.
Couple of years ago.... damn... closer to 15 now, I guess... I was looking at buying a 6 cylinder Outback.
I put the brakes on that when I realized that the 6 cylinder models required high test gas at that time. Don't know if they still do or not.
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This evening (14 November) I paid $3.179 for regular {ethanol) at the discount club.
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Price dropped to $3.23 at the Global down the street. Most of the other stations near me are still at $3.27 to $3.29.
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We were at $2.92 at our go-to station Sunday. Bumped up to $3.19 overnight Monday.
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According to Gas Buddy Sam's in Louisville is $2.77
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We were at $2.92 at our go-to station Sunday. Bumped up to $3.19 overnight Monday.
I saw $2.749 at Clear Lake, IA last night. After seeing your post, I'm regretting not filling up my truck last night to save a few bucks, I have a feeling it probably went up overnight a quarter or more.
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Looks like they've finally started switching the more expensive summer blend to the more expensive winter blend. Prices jumped at two stations overnight... up 12 cents at one, 15 cents at the other.
I'm sure the rest of the stations will follow soon.
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WTI has tanked 5% today. I didn't see that coming. Apparently a big jump in supply and worries about growth.
RBOB is also down hard, 4.5% and is sitting at $2.10 a gallon.
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Filled up today for $2.669
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A bunch of stations here just jumped 0.30. Going into Thanksgiving week price jump?
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And WTI and RBOB have recovered almost everything they lost yesterday.
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$2.719 Story City, IA
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Saw $2.64 this afternoon.
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And Super was up to $4.23 yesterday. Regular holding at about $3.30. There used to be a 10 cent jump from one grade to the next. Not sure when that changed. Prices here are also due to one of Chris Cristie’s last bills signed when he was governor. Not only did he raise the gas tax; but he also keyed it to the amount of gas tax revenue. So as cars use less fuel, the tax has to go up to keep funding level. If people stop driving as much because they’re working remotely it has the same effect.
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$3.50 here. I was expecting a jump for the holiday weekend, but we didn't seem to get one.
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Tuesday, November 21: $3.149 for unleaded (ethanol) regular at the discount club.
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Last week the price here in Northern Va jumped about 13-15 cents a gallon.
The Global down the street went from $3.23 to $3.35.
Two days ago it went down to $3.32. Thanks, Brandon! You saved my Thanksgiving economy!
Yesterday it went back up to $3.37. *expletive deleted*ck you, greedy money grubbing oil companies!
Price of crude has been bouncing around like mad the last few days because of OPEC+ and talk about another product freeze or cut and then news that OPEC had delayed the meetings.
Oddly enough the lowest price right now in my immediate area is $3.29, at the Shell station, which is generally the most expensive of all of the stations in my area.
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Price at the Global dropped another couple of cents, now back to $3.29.
Price at the Wawa has also eased a bit, but is still in the mid $3.30s, with the rest of the stations around the same.
Oddly enough though, the Shell, which is generally one of the most expensive stations, often by 10 cents or more, is also sitting at $3.29.
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And the price at the Global is now back to $3.25, and $3.29 at the Wawa.
At the Shell around the corner from the Global, and about 2 blocks from the Wawa, the price remains $3.39.
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Lets try this again in the right thread
Sams holding steady at $2.77
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Saw $2.51 yesterday.
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$2.55 for the cheap stuff where I normally fill up and in a town 20 miles south.
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Has anyone seen an update on the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Now that prices are down, are they refilling it?
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Has anyone seen an update on the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Now that prices are down, are they refilling it?
Are you smoking fentanyl in a walk in clinic restroom or something?
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Has anyone seen an update on the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Now that prices are down, are they refilling it?
Technically yes. Since it's low point in July they have added roughly 6 mil barrels. At this rate it will be back to Jan 2020 levels in....let's see, carry the 1.....19 weeks....looks like Jan 2046 or so.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W
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Technically yes. Since it's low point in July they have added roughly 6 mil barrels. At this rate it will be back to Jan 2020 levels in....let's see, carry the 1.....19 weeks....looks like Jan 2046 or so.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W
So a couple of years after the dems project they'll paid off the debt at current spending rates. Praise be to Biden!
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Puerto Vallarta, Mexico was 21.99 pesos a litre of regular unleaded. At the marina in the town I stayed in, fuel was 30 pesos a litre at the dock for boats.
$2.839 in Lakeville, MN when I filled up on my way home from MSP..
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I finally saw diesel for less than 4 dollars a gallon yesterday. It was at a new(ish) low of 3.999. Regular was 3.599. This is at a Maverick, the Chevron was about 9 cents a gallon more across the board.
bob
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Apparently OPEC made some really lackluster production cuts at their meeting yesterday, and the markets are deeming it not nearly enough to prop up prices in face of economic and political pressures.
Crude is down 2% today.
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I filled up on the way home this evening. $3.139 for unleaded regular (ethanol) at the discount club.
Down one whole penny since November 22.
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$2.499 for regular at the local Exxon station yesterday, 11/30/23.
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$2.51 for regular, $3.33 for diesel on 12/1/23 'tween Dallas & Tyler.
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Just dropped to $3.26 at the Wawa.
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$3.05 for regular is the going price at the Sam's I go to.
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Down another penny at Wawa... $3.25...
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$2.489 at Murphy's.
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$3.20 at the Wawa this morning then I got gas.
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WTI just dropped below $70 a barrel for the first July.
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With all that is going in the ME I'm almost shocked. I was halfway expecting another 1973.
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Gas dropped to $3.16 at the Wawa.
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And price is down to $3.13 at the Global down the street.
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Down to $2.57 here.
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Just got back from the Wawa...
Down to $3.05.
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With all that is going in the ME I'm almost shocked. I was halfway expecting another 1973.
And Guyana and Venezuela too
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Gas around here has been up and down from 2.70 to 3.25 and sometimes it'll jump 60 cents up or down overnight. Stuff I've been reading is saying the US is pumping more oil now than ever and OPEC, especially Saudi is freaking out.
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Just dropped to $2.99 at the Wawa.
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Murphy's is down to $2.32.
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$2.95 at the Global down the street.
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I saw $2.559 at the Wal-Mart in Mason City, IA last night, across the road it was $2.539 at Kwik Star.
Iowa tax is $.30-.32 per gallon depending upon the blend.
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I paid $2.92 a gallon this morning at the Wawa.
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Had to stop by for gas the other day,
Unleaded 3.599, Plus 4.099, Premium 4.299, Diesel 3.959
The price progression on grades is all out of whack these days.
bob
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Diesel is $3.599 at my neighborhood station.
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Had to go to Rockwall, TX this morning, a place we go maybe once every couple of years. At a 7-11 on the outskirts of town gas was advertised as $2.23/gal.
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The cheapest gas in this area right now is at the Marysville Costco at $ 3.35/gallon.
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The Global is now down to $2.89. Nice... ish.
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$2.57
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We're not pumping, Saudi's saying they're gonna (or have?) slow production.
Why are the prices still dropping?
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We're not pumping,
We are pumping at an all-time high of 13.2M barrels per day.
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Well then.
Guess I should do more research before posting.
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Well then.
Guess I should do more research before posting.
It's all good, really hasn't been glaring front page news much.
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$2.86 at the Global this morning.
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$2.79 up at the Murphy's in Granite Falls this morning. Lowest it's been in a while.
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Local Exxon has regular at $2.399 just west of Austin, TX. Ditto for the local HEB grocery store's gas station.
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$2.459 around noon today in the old River City.
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And the Wawa is now matching the Global at $2.86, which likely means that Global's price will drop a few cents the next time the truck fills the tanks.
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Wawa went back up to $2.99 overnight.
Wheee...
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Price has been dropping a bit the last few days.
Down to $2.91 at Wawa, $2.89 at the Global.
Passed an Exxon station I've referenced here at various times. It's the only station on a fairly long stretch of road.
Their price is still... $3.99 a gallon. WTF?
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$2.62
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Price has been dropping a bit the last few days.
Down to $2.91 at Wawa, $2.89 at the Global.
Passed an Exxon station I've referenced here at various times. It's the only station on a fairly long stretch of road.
Their price is still... $3.99 a gallon. WTF?
They must have a loyal (read: dumb) clientele willing to pay those kind of high prices.
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Price has been dropping a bit the last few days.
Down to $2.91 at Wawa, $2.89 at the Global.
Passed an Exxon station I've referenced here at various times. It's the only station on a fairly long stretch of road.
Their price is still... $3.99 a gallon. WTF?
They must have a loyal (read: dumb) clientele willing to pay those kind of high prices.
No Exxons here in Louisville but we do have BPs and they're like that yet you always see people getting gas at one. According to someone who drives gas tankers they pull from the same tanks.
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They must have a loyal (read: dumb) clientele willing to pay those kind of high prices.
No, I think it's more of a "well, we're the ONLY station in sight, and obviously people have no clue where other stations are, so we can charge what we want! And people have to pay it!"
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No, I think it's more of a "well, we're the ONLY station in sight, and obviously people have no clue where other stations are, so we can charge what we want! And people have to pay it!"
With the BP stations I mentioned above some of them will be right across the street from a much cheaper station and yet you still see people pumping gas there. Maybe because there's never a line for some bizarre reason :rofl:
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All stations will have price variations. BP generally does have higher gas prices here in Northern Virginia, but it's generally not too far off from the prices other stations are charging.
Around here the price topper generally seems to be Shell, which is normally 20 or so cents a gallon more expensive than the other stations around it.
But, I generally fill up at Shell. Not because I'm Shell loyal, but because my grocery store has a rewards program with them. My last fill up I got $1.20 off a gallon.
When I'm just topping up, or in between points based fill ups, I'll generally get gas at the Global or the Wawa.
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The first Buc-ee's station is local to me. There are smaller Buc-ee's all over the my area. That is generally my goto for gas as they generally have the best price. Valero is probably my backup as they are typically not too expensive.
In the town where I grew up, there was an Exxon station on the interstate that was always 10 cents a gallon higher than anyone else. They got a lot of business from people using their Exxon credit cards and/or who felt they trusted their gas. Of course, that station had a full service lane. I don't know if anyone does that anymore.
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There's been some talk of Buc-ees coming to Virginia by 2027. It will be further down south, but if the plans hold out it's going to be a big interstate location with 120 fueling lanes.
I'm interested in trying some of their snacks, which a lot of people say are really good.
I'll also be interested in trying their coffee. That's the one thing that can keep me going to a particular station. The coffee is why I keep hitting the Wawa near me.
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There's been some talk of Buc-ees coming to Virginia by 2027. It will be further down south, but if the plans hold out it's going to be a big interstate location with 120 fueling lanes.
They're just starting to move into Kentucky with one that just opened and another building. Neither one anywhere near me though
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Price has been dropping a bit the last few days.
Down to $2.91 at Wawa, $2.89 at the Global.
Passed an Exxon station I've referenced here at various times. It's the only station on a fairly long stretch of road.
Their price is still... $3.99 a gallon. WTF?
I never see that here, but back in Santa Barbara there were a couple of stations - one a Chevron and one a Mobil, that were always way higher than everyone else. When prices were lower, they might be $0.50 higher, when prices were higher, they might be $1 higher. No real rhyme or reason. The Chevron was just up the street from the University, so one explanation would be trust fund babies at the University driving the BMW their parents bought them and using daddy's credit card. Even though there was a normally priced station literally 1/2 mile away. I could never figure out the Mobil. It was in an odd location with no other stations near, but there were plenty of stations within a mile, and where most everyone would have to drive anyway to get anywhere in relation to the Mobil's location.
I recall the congresswoman at the time, Lois Capps, was investigating it because there were so many complaints.
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I never see that here, but back in Santa Barbara there were a couple of stations - one a Chevron and one a Mobil, that were always way higher than everyone else. When prices were lower, they might be $0.50 higher, when prices were higher, they might be $1 higher. No real rhyme or reason. The Chevron was just up the street from the University, so one explanation would be trust fund babies at the University driving the BMW their parents bought them and using daddy's credit card. Even though there was a normally priced station literally 1/2 mile away.
Going after that young impulse buyer who want it now.
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January 3, 2024, unleaded regular (10% ethanol) was $2.969 at the discount club. If I remember correctly, that's where the price sat around Christmas, as well.
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Price at the Global and the Wawa had dropped back to the mid $2.80s as of a few days ago.
This morning I pulled into Wawa to do a mid fill and... the price had bumped up overnight to $2.99.
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1/15/24: 2.799 for regular at Costco in Charlottesville.
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Gas prices are heading back up.
The Wawa jumped from $2.99 to $3.09 yesterday.
And crude has been gaining since last week. It topped $78 a barrel today.
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$2.869 at Costco in Virginia this morning.
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Hovering around $2.79-$2.82 in these parts.
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I paid #3.019 for unleaded regular ethanol at the discount club. That's up 5 cents/gallon, after it had been at $2.969 for four or five weeks.
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Bumped up to $2.99 here over the last couple of days. That's a 17 cent increase.
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Around $2.90ish here in St. Louis, but our Fearless Leader reduced it from over $4.00, so we should vote for him.
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Picked up a friend in St. Louis Saturday so we could both do some errands (she doesn't have a car) and went to a ZX gas station on Choteau just east of Jefferson. While most of the stations were at $2.999/gal (per stlouisgasprices.com), this station was $2.729.
In nearby IL-ANNOY, two stations by the "junior college" were $2.999, most were $3.199 to $3.299.
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Up 12 cents overnight at the Wawa, to $3.19...
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Up 12 cents overnight at the Wawa, to $3.19...
We bumped up at the same time to the $3.17 - $3.19 range.
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$2.899 at the local Texaco station on 2/10/2024. That's less than the peak during the last couple of years, but is still a buck a gallon more than I paid during Trump's last days in office, a 53% increase. Let's Go Brandon.
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And gas prices shot up again yesterday at the Wawa, up to $3.35.
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Friday, February 23, price was $3.059 for unleaded regular (10% ethanol) at the discount club.
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There was talk on the local radio this morning about how we're soon going to the "summer blend" for gas - which is normally $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon more than the "winter blend".
Much like the talk last year about changing from the summer to winter blends, where the winter blend is/was ~$0.10 to $0.20 per gallon more than the summer blend.
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Yep. They're replacing the more expensive winter blend with the more expensive summer blend. Then, in late fall, they'll replace the more expensive summer blend with the more expensive winter blend.
Prices have actually been slipping here the last week or so. They topped out at, IIRC, $3.39 at the Wawa, but are now down to $3.19.
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Down to $3.12 at the Global, and $3.15 at the Wawa this morning.
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$3.059 for unleaded regular ethanol today. Same price as a week ago.
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It's dropped another 4 cents a gallon at the Wawa and Global.
And, I now have 90 cents a gallon off with my grocery store rewards points. After Saturday, it will be $1 off.
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In a circle about 8 mi. in diameter, most stations in this area are $3.699. However. there are 4 close to each other that are $3.389.
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And this morning back up to $3.29 at the Wawa.
The other stations in the area haven't caught up yet.
But they will.
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Good God, this thread has been going on for nearly 10 years now. I had no clue I'd started it that long ago.
When I did, the Wawa hadn't been built and the Global near me was still a Citgo, which had regular unleaded for $3.15 a gallon.
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$3.139 @ Costco in Virginia this morning.
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We are in the $3.02 to $3.07 range presently.
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Gasoline had dropped back to $3.13-$3.16 at stations in my area.
Until the last two days.
Now everyone is in the $3.39 range.
My guess is that the switch from the more expensive winter gasoline to the more expensive summer blend gasoline is happening.
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Pretty volatile pricing around here lately. Up to $3.25-$3.29 a bit over a week ago. Back down to the $3.09 range until yesterday. Now back up, this time to $3.39.
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A couple weeks ago the cheap stuff was $2.69. Yesterday it was $2.99.
Yep, summer blend has arrived.
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I hadn't been paying attention and got gas yesterday and looked at the sign. Holy crap - we're back to $3.95 here (rural - I don't know what the Costco is charging - probably 20ish cents less).
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$3.24 Sams
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Crude has been slowly moving up over the last couple of months and is sitting around $85 a barrel right now.
Gas has been bouncing back and forth over the same time.
Right now the Wawa is sitting a $3.59, same as the Sunoco and the Shell on the same stretch of road.
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$2.99 for 85 octane ethanol, $3.89 for diesel and $4.09 for straight gas. That's at the local Murphy, everywhere else is even more. Ouch!
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There is a new Sheetz that has gone in across the highway from Murphy's in Granite Falls. They are charging $2.95 for gas. The Murphy's and a Raceway down the road a bit are also charging $2.95, and have been for a couple of weeks. Everyone else in the area is at $3.49 or more. Thank goodness for gas wars.
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Wow, I didn't realize that Sheetz had crept its way that far south.
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Wow, I didn't realize that Sheetz had crept its way that far south.
One went in near I-40 Exit 126 a year or so ago. That was the first one in the area as far as I know. I think the one up north on US321 is either number two or three around the Hickory Unifour area.
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DW & I went for a drive yesterday. We took a few back roads, a couple interstate fwy a state hwy. From I20 in TX to I35 in OK, the prices I saw* were from $3.09 to $3.49. Of course, the one we stopped at was $3.49.
*There had to be prices above/below those, I just didn't see 'em.
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It's been creeping up around here for a couple months. $3.66 when I topped off the Scooby yesterday.
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The price dropped 5 cents at both the Wawa (3.51) and the Global (3.49) this afternoon.
Right after I paid the higher price on my way to work...