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Title: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2017, 12:06:08 PM
Lest "Russia Russia Russia" makes us forget, there was a lot of DNC hanky panky making the news only a few months ago.

The FBI has seized "smashed" hard drives from a Wasserman Schultz Aide. I found it interesting the he's supposedly an IT guy. Smashing a hard drive may or may not prevent data access, and then leaving them laying around your home or office isn't exactly brilliant. Maybe he nuked them first and the article just didn't mention it, or authorities don't know yet.

But anyway, "Trump and Russia!!!"

http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/07/24/crooked-democrats-fbi-seizes-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 24, 2017, 12:10:47 PM
Quote
...a Wasserman Schultz Aide...

Obviously a plant, sent by Trump's Russian masters.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: HeroHog on July 24, 2017, 12:15:50 PM
Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 24, 2017, 12:24:06 PM
Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Acetylene torch with a rosebud tip. Aluminum platters would last about ten seconds. Kinda hard to read data when it's re-formed into a smoldering pile of molten goo.

Brad
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2017, 12:24:19 PM
Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Pfft. You do things the hard way.

Thermite.  =D
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: cordex on July 24, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
Pfft. You do things the hard way.

Thermite.  =D
Yep.  Which reminds me, it's almost time for my annual platter melt.  Have to check with clients to see what they're ready to burn.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: RevDisk on July 24, 2017, 12:56:15 PM
Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Brad is correct. Acetylene torch is faster and much more secure. It's listed somewhere in the appropriate manuals as an approved field expedient manner of destroying classified electronics. Which is how I convinced my boss to buy me a couple, just in case.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: French G. on July 24, 2017, 02:07:49 PM
Well then getting your boss to buy thermite grenades ought to be easy then.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: lee n. field on July 24, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Throw them in a lake.  Gone.  Throw them out the window on a long country drive down random roads.  Gone. 
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: 230RN on July 24, 2017, 03:30:25 PM
Would a bulk tape eraser on the individual platters work?  That's a pretty strong oscillating field.  I kept one from long ago.  It's great for demagging tools and finding lost parts.

I figure switching magnetic domains from 1 to 0 and 0 to 1 sixty times a second ought to do the trick.

Also, with respect to the OP, there's probably a thumb drive or SDD card with all that data backed up and hidden in somebody's couch cushions somewhere.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: mellestad on July 24, 2017, 03:44:45 PM
Smashing drives with a hammer is perfectly fine, imo, as long as it's not a three letter agency out to get you.

......whoops!
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: RevDisk on July 24, 2017, 04:09:57 PM
Throw them in a lake.  Gone.  Throw them out the window on a long country drive down random roads.  Gone. 

That can be a gamble. Sometimes it pays off. Like it did for Penn State's football program. Sometimes it doesn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar#Disappearance

Torched always works.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: zahc on July 24, 2017, 04:53:03 PM
Cordless drill through in a couple places should be fine
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 24, 2017, 04:56:46 PM
For the truly paranoid, you can drill, cut, and burn them; then you launch them on a rocket aimed at the sun. Should work.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Regolith on July 24, 2017, 06:44:39 PM
Nuke the platters from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: HankB on July 25, 2017, 08:27:28 AM
When I've gotten rid of an old PC and removed the hard drives for disposal, I've sanded the disc surfaces with a belt sander, pounded them with a hammer, and then cut them into wedges.

Now I'm worried that someone may find the pieces in a landfill and reconstitute the data since I didn't melt them down with a blowtorch.   [tinfoil]

At work, physical damage to a company PC would be frowned on, so I've used a utility (BCWipe) to overwrite data files and free space multiple times with random 1s and 0s before giving up the old PC.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: MechAg94 on July 25, 2017, 09:34:20 AM
When I've gotten rid of an old PC and removed the hard drives for disposal, I've sanded the disc surfaces with a belt sander, pounded them with a hammer, and then cut them into wedges.

Now I'm worried that someone may find the pieces in a landfill and reconstitute the data since I didn't melt them down with a blowtorch.   [tinfoil]

At work, physical damage to a company PC would be frowned on, so I've used a utility (BCWipe) to overwrite data files and free space multiple times with random 1s and 0s before giving up the old PC.
Throw the pieces in separate trash bags.  Take a few to trash cans at other locations.   =D
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: dogmush on July 25, 2017, 09:46:32 AM
Pfft!  Do it right, or don't bother.

https://www.amazon.com/Pounds-Aluminum-Powder-30-micron/dp/B00KF598X0

plus

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Iron-Oxide-Natural-Pounds/dp/B004KICAVU

equals

(http://i.imgur.com/qFk8Hka.jpg)

FWIW there are 4 drives in that picture.  I saved up until I had reason to mix a good sized batch.  That $40 or so in materials will keep you in drive destruction for a decade of normal person use.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: TommyGunn on July 25, 2017, 10:47:34 AM
Use one of these on the drive:  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: HeroHog on July 25, 2017, 11:51:41 AM
I've found that a few well placed rounds from a .303 Eddystone P14 will do the job as well.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Fly320s on July 25, 2017, 12:47:04 PM
Throw the pieces in separate trash bags.  Take a few to trash cans at other locations.   =D

Yeah, take them to Maine and trade them in for a bag of weed.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/local/clean-the-trash-off-the-street-get-free-weed/458844658
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2017, 01:04:35 PM
FWIW there are 4 drives in that picture.  I saved up until I had reason to mix a good sized batch.  That $40 or so in materials will keep you in drive destruction for a decade of normal person use.


I'm pretty sure normal people get rid of their old hard drives by selling the whole computer on Craig's List, or donating it to Goodwill.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Scout26 on July 25, 2017, 03:03:20 PM
Gettng back to the OP (After copying the Dogmush recipe):  I mentioned that this had started a while back.

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=54740.0

Also, I haven't seen much on the DNC Donor Fraud Class Action Lawsuit down in Florida since May.   https://www.facebook.com/DNCfraudlawsuit/
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 25, 2017, 05:46:29 PM

I'm pretty sure normal people get rid of their old hard drives by selling the whole computer on Craig's List, or donating it to Goodwill.

I recently sold an older notebook computer in Craigs List. With a functioning hard drive in it.

First I ran a D.O.D. wipe program, then I did a pave-over and factory restore of the operating system. Does that make me normal, abnormal, or paranormal?
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
I recently sold an older notebook computer in Craigs List. With a functioning hard drive in it.

First I ran a D.O.D. wipe program, then I did a pave-over and factory restore of the operating system. Does that make me normal, abnormal, or paranormal?


What?! You didn't destroy the hard drive in five different ways, some involving power tools and fire?

You gonna get hacked.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/05/article-2385095-1B2741CE000005DC-63_638x457.jpg)
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: lee n. field on July 25, 2017, 07:42:56 PM
I recently sold an older notebook computer in Craigs List. With a functioning hard drive in it.

First I ran a D.O.D. wipe program, then I did a pave-over and factory restore of the operating system. Does that make me normal, abnormal, or paranormal?

I'd do it that way. 
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2017, 08:13:23 PM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/25/democrat-house-staffer-imran-awan-arrested-at-dulles-airport-apparently-attempting-to-flee/comment-page-2/
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Scout26 on July 25, 2017, 08:22:54 PM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/07/25/democrat-house-staffer-imran-awan-arrested-at-dulles-airport-apparently-attempting-to-flee/comment-page-2/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/25/feds-arrest-it-staffer-for-wasserman-schultz-trying-to-leave-country.html  (From a less partisan source)

And more background info on this, since the MSM is ignoring it completely.   
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-25/wasserman-schultz-it-aide-arrested-dulles-airport-while-attempting-flee-country

 [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2017, 10:30:55 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/25/feds-arrest-it-staffer-for-wasserman-schultz-trying-to-leave-country.html  (From a less partisan source)

And more background info on this, since the MSM is ignoring it completely.   
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-25/wasserman-schultz-it-aide-arrested-dulles-airport-while-attempting-flee-country


I see you also had difficulty finding a "mainstream" news source. Utterly shocking.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: HeroHog on July 25, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
Perfect lesson in "confidential" data or data that needs to be "secured." A good friend's old man wanted me to recover his PC that had crashed and was dead. I managed to recover 99.999% of his data and reinstalled the OS. I also recovered his pr0n stash AND the "home video" of him and his wife. I had to tell her what I discovered. That was all kinds of uncomfortable because I SAW THINGS. Why did I let her know? I did NOT want that to "leak out" anywhere. It was bad enough I saw it.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Scout26 on July 26, 2017, 12:04:41 AM
Did you learn anything ??

Was she hot ??

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 26, 2017, 09:24:37 PM
Perfect lesson in "confidential" data or data that needs to be "secured." A good friend's old man wanted me to recover his PC that had crashed and was dead. I managed to recover 99.999% of his data and reinstalled the OS. I also recovered his pr0n stash AND the "home video" of him and his wife. I had to tell her what I discovered. That was all kinds of uncomfortable because I SAW THINGS. Why did I let her know? I did NOT want that to "leak out" anywhere. It was bad enough I saw it.  :facepalm:

Hell, I'd of made a "back-up" copy "just in case".
 =D


not really....maybe....
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: HeroHog on July 26, 2017, 09:43:59 PM
Did you learn anything ??

Was she hot ??

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yes and yes. Big bewbs, short, sweet, gal. She just had a radical hysterectomy and lost both to cancer. She seems to be fine now and is in great spirits. She divorced the *expletive deleted*hole and is engaged to a good man now. She and her 1st husband were dear friends of ours until his death. She remarried an ass. Now she seems to have a good man. We are still fairly close. We had dinner there last week.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Chester32141 on August 01, 2017, 07:18:51 PM
Does anyone know when the hard drives were confiscated ?  

I've seen articles implying anywhere from March 2017 thru 7/23/17 ...

I'm under the impression it was March or April but most of what I read

now says it was last week ... If it was March or April have they been erased ?

 [popcorn]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/exclusive-fbi-seized-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Quote
Shortly after the criminal probe was revealed in February, Imran abruptly moved out of his longtime home on Hawkshead Drive in Lorton, Va., and listed it for rent on a website that connects landlords with military families.

One of the new tenants — a Marine Corps veteran married to a female Navy Officer — said he found “wireless routers, hard drives that look like they tried to destroy, laptops, [and] a lot of brand new expensive toner.”

The tenants called the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and, not long after, FBI agents arrived together with the Capitol Police to interview them and confiscate the equipment.

eta ... quote and link
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 01, 2017, 08:46:24 PM
Memo to self:

After committing computer crime, be sure to remove incriminating evidence when unassing the area of operations.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: DittoHead on September 07, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
That laptop that Debbie was so worried about was apparently meant to be found

Quote from: http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/06/exclusive-did-imran-want-capitol-police-to-find-wasserman-schultzs-laptop/
A laptop that Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz has frantically fought to keep prosecutors from examining may have been planted for police to find by her since-indicted staffer, Imran Awan, along with a letter to the U.S. Attorney.

“Imran Awan is a calculating person who made great efforts to cover his tracks, both electronically and physically,” Gohmert told TheDCNF. “Placing that laptop with his personal documents, which may well incriminate him, those he worked for, or both, in the dead of night in a House office building, was a deliberate act by a cunning suspect, and it needs to be investigated.”
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exclusive-dnc-official-discriminates-against-elliott-hamilton

DNC is hiring IT personnel, but they're looking to avoid "cisgender straight white males." Boy, maybe they should worry more about whether or not their IT guys are overcharging them, and wiring huge amounts of cash to Pakistan. But that's just my cisgendered white male heterosexuality speaking...
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exclusive-dnc-official-discriminates-against-elliott-hamilton

DNC is hiring IT personnel, but they're looking to avoid "cisgender straight white males." Boy, maybe they should worry more about whether or not their IT guys are overcharging them, and wiring huge amounts of cash to Pakistan. But that's just my cisgendered white male heterosexuality speaking...

Isn't that sort of like the NBA saying they won't be hiring any tall black men? Certain occupations draw certain people who have developed certain skills. That's just the way it is. Kinda dumb to exclude the biggest population of a skill set, but then that's part of our fall into idiocracy.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 10:05:39 AM
Isn't that sort of like the NBA saying they won't be hiring any tall black men? Certain occupations draw certain people who have developed certain skills. That's just the way it is. Kinda dumb to exclude the biggest population of a skill set, but then that's part of our fall into idiocracy.

Part of the DNC's electoral implosion. Let's hope they keep it up.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Fly320s on October 31, 2017, 10:20:11 AM
Since I identify as a curved, multi-gendered, plaid, non-male I shouldn't even have to interview.
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2017, 10:26:55 AM
Since I identify as a curved, multi-gendered, plaid, non-male I shouldn't even have to interview.


Yeah, but I identify as the guy being who already has the job, so...
Title: Re: FBI Siezes Smashed DNC Hard Drives
Post by: Fly320s on October 31, 2017, 10:46:27 AM

Yeah, but I identify as the guy being who already has the job, so...

Damn.  Well played.