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Title: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2017, 01:06:30 PM
I wanted to create a separate topic to not muck up any topics on Hurricane Harvey itself.

This linked story - surprisingly at HuffPo - seems like a great example of my thesis:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_599faaefe4b0821444c25eeb/amp

Comments included, "Must be a Texas dog cause he can survive without help." Even in other parts of the story, they mention that "Texans are holding up good". This has got to be killing all the leftists that want the administration to fail in its response. The problem is that the hurricane hit the wrong place for partisan politics.

Bush got a ton of undeserved hate simply because Katrina hit New Orleans, where you have a predominate "help me" attitude versus an "I'll help myself" attitude. We saw that outside New Orleans, and in Mississippi in particular, people were hit just as hard, but communities were coming together and helping each other instead of crying and whining for the government to "do something". Very little news coverage of that.

We now seem to be seeing the same thing in Texas. People are dealing with the situation. Even having fun. I saw a lady photobomb a Fox reporter by bringing him a six pack of beer while he was on air. People are in good spirits, or at least the best spirits they can be in, and just handling things.

All the SJWs, etc. that were secretly hoping for a repeat of New Orleans (it's a bunch of deplorables in TX after all, so who cares what happens to them) are now being sorely disappointed by fed, state, and local governments all working together, and more importantly, individuals taking care of themselves and each other.

If anything, this will end up showing that had New Orleans been out of the picture during Katrina, "Bush's failure" would not exist, and I'm betting that when Harvey is said and done, the only links to a "Trump failure" will be petty.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on August 27, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Question:  Will New Orleans take back some of the refugees that are still in Houston?   =D
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on August 27, 2017, 01:41:20 PM
The problem with Katrina response was incompetent city and state officials.  They handled the evacuations and response horribly.  From what I understand, The accepted process was that the Feds didn't move in without state permission and the Bush Admin couldn't get anyone to make a decision.  I imagine that has changed now.  Since then, the declare disaster areas pretty much before anything happens. 
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2017, 01:51:59 PM
The problem with Katrina response was incompetent city and state officials.  They handled the evacuations and response horribly.  From what I understand, The accepted process was that the Feds didn't move in without state permission and the Bush Admin couldn't get anyone to make a decision.  I imagine that has changed now.  Since then, the declare disaster areas pretty much before anything happens. 

Lot's of politics in Katrina. As Scout mentioned elsewhere, the mayor tossed the local emergency plan (remember all the parked buses?) and the governor, who didn't like Bush, figured she would handle things without the feds up until things got out of control, at which point neither the feds nor anyone else could have saved the response debacle.

Regardless, there was still plenty of blame to point at individuals in New Orleans. Pretty much everyone who showed up to the stadium did so empty handed. Couldn't be bothered to bring even a few bottles of water, blankets from their beds, etc. Even though I believe looters should be shot on site, the looters there were grabbing TVs instead of food and water. In other places during Katrina, individuals were sharing food and water, regardless if any government entity was onsite or not.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on August 27, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Regarding the story, I noticed the press conferences and local news reports that mention shelters are pointing out which shelters will allow animals.  For the rest, when you are in Hurricane country, you should have a minimal supplies.  I really feel for all the people that are flooded out of their homes and relying on shelters.  That has to suck.  
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on August 27, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
There were lots of people in and around New Orleans that were getting by on their own and trying to keep looters and others out of their area. 
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2017, 02:06:13 PM
There were lots of people in and around New Orleans that were getting by on their own and trying to keep looters and others out of their area.  

Definitely people there who tried and did handle things on their own (as I recall, some had to stand up to Nola cops who wanted to confiscate their defensive weapons), but way too many people just expecting big brother to take care of everything. I also seem to recall a bunch of people whining about being handed MREs at the stadium. You're in a shelter, not the Four Seasons.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Frank Castle on August 27, 2017, 03:26:56 PM
The Great New Orleans Gun Grab

https://www.amazon.com/Great-New-Orleans-Gun-Grab/dp/0970981333

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This book details the ILLEGAL theft and seizure of firearms from law abiding citizens of the New Orleans area after Katrina, as ordered by Ray Nagin and Eddie Compass.
It also tells the story of law abiding gun owner banding together to protect their families, homes, and community.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 27, 2017, 03:36:54 PM
There were lots of people in and around New Orleans that were getting by on their own and trying to keep looters and others out of their area. 

Until the California Highway Patrol clowns moved in and started body slamming octogenarian ladies who just wanted to be left alone -- with their six gun.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 27, 2017, 04:25:00 PM
In Texas, County Judges hold a lot of power.  The Harris county judge was on TV today telling people to get out there and rescue their neighbors and ask forgiveness later. 
For it's flaws....Texas is filled with Texans who generally are the best people I've had the pleasure of calling neighbors.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: KD5NRH on August 27, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
So far, I've seen at least one "Hanging out in the kids' treehouse.  Ten feet above the water with a couple days' food and cell phone batteries, but if anybody's got a shallow draft boat and the time to pick us up, we'd appreciate it.  Nowhere near worth bothering 911 yet." post. 
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2017, 04:53:20 PM
Here's someone making lemonade out of lemons. :)

https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2017/08/27/watch-houston-resident-literally-catches-fish-inside-flooded-home/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Frank Castle on August 27, 2017, 05:08:35 PM
Meet Logan Anderson, a former staffer for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. She’s been triggered by this boat with a Confederate flag on it rescuing people in Houston:



https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/08/27/hillary-staffer-triggered-by-rescue-boat-in-houston-with-confederate-flag/

Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2017, 05:15:13 PM
Meet Logan Anderson, a former staffer for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. She’s been triggered by this boat with a Confederate flag on it rescuing people in Houston:



https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/08/27/hillary-staffer-triggered-by-rescue-boat-in-houston-with-confederate-flag/



"I'd let him rescue me and then I'd tear down his flag..."

You about can't find a better quote to describe the modern day SJW.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 27, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
Meet Logan Anderson, a former staffer for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. She’s been triggered by this boat with a Confederate flag on it rescuing people in Houston:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/08/27/hillary-staffer-triggered-by-rescue-boat-in-houston-with-confederate-flag/


Quote from: Logan Anderson
(I would absolutely get on that boat, by the way. And then, when they dropped me off, I'd tear off the flag and drop it into the flood.)

Nothing like an expression of gratitude to ruin a day. If it was my boat and she did that, I'd take her sorry SJW ass right back to where I picked her up.

Idjit!

She acts like she's surprised a boat with a Confederate flag would actually rescue -- GASP! -- black people. She must believe all the white supremecist stuff the left has been feeding her.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MikeB on August 27, 2017, 05:38:42 PM
"I'd let him rescue me and then I'd tear down his flag..."

You about can't find a better quote to describe the modern day SJW.

It looks to me like the flag is painted to the steering vanes if that’s the right word. I’m thinking she have a hard time pulling it off.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: HeroHog on August 27, 2017, 06:17:58 PM
Rudder
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: 230RN on August 27, 2017, 06:53:49 PM
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Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: 230RN on August 27, 2017, 06:55:32 PM
"I'd let him rescue me and then I'd tear down his flag..."

You about can't find a better quote to describe the modern day SJW.

"...and drop it in the flood."

Damn.  Beat me to it.  Was going to mutter something about destruction of private property, too. The ethics of SJWs are becoming more evident every day.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 27, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
"...and drop it in the flood."

Damn.  Beat me to it.  Was going to mutter something about destruction of private property, too. The ethics of SJWs are becoming more evident every day.


Ethics? Social justice warriors got ethics?

In the example of the flood rescue, if she objected that strongly to the flag and if she had any ethics, she'd wave him off and wait for the next boat.

Which brings to mind a very old shaggy dog story ...
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: HeroHog on August 27, 2017, 09:27:52 PM
I'm thinking if ya judge him because he has a rebel flag on the boat that he is using, at his expense, time  and peril to save your ass so harshly, wave him on and wait for the next one! He's obviously not so racist as to leave you out there to drown is he? Do you KNOW he's racist or are you assuming that? Many have a lot of pride in the South and fly that flag for other than racist reasons. I know a lot of blacks that support that flag and are far from self-hating racists against their own race.
Jump in the boat and say "thanks" or wave him buy and wait for someone who matches your world view and prejudices.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: HankB on August 27, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
. . .  Even though I believe looters should be shot on site, the looters there were grabbing TVs instead of food and water . . .
Note that the looters included quite a few members of the New Orleans Police Department.

Quote from: Hawkmoon
Until the California Highway Patrol clowns moved in and started body slamming octogenarian ladies who just wanted to be left alone -- with their six gun.
Bobby Jindal became governor of Louisiana around 3 years after Katrina, and his administration made no effort whatsoever to bring the badged miscreants to justice for their ILLEGAL actions - which is why I will never vote for him if he still aspires to run for POTUS.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on August 27, 2017, 11:14:53 PM
Note that the looters included quite a few members of the New Orleans Police Department.
Bobby Jindal became governor of Louisiana around 3 years after Katrina, and his administration made no effort whatsoever to bring the badged miscreants to justice for their ILLEGAL actions - which is why I will never vote for him if he still aspires to run for POTUS.
Wasn't the former mayor prosecuted or did he flee the country?  Not sure when that was.  Wasn't there also the issue of police on the payroll who didn't exist?

I recall running into a guy who worked for our company who swore than Bush withheld support from Louisiana and put everything into Mississippi and elsewhere.  He was pretty emotional about it.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 28, 2017, 01:42:55 PM
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/08/28/vilest-of-the-vile-here-are-the-10-most-awful-hateful-political-takes-on-houston-so-far/

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K9 Unit @browntailedhawk

To hell with Southerners! There! I said it! NY and MA started this country and were on the right side of history when TX and MS weren't!


That's right, folks. This country was founded by northerners.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
Melania is coming to see you, Jamis.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20364/heel-president-trump-heads-texas-medias-focus-emily-zanotti
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 29, 2017, 11:10:42 AM
Melania is coming to see you, Jamis.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20364/heel-president-trump-heads-texas-medias-focus-emily-zanotti

Melania's going to Virginia while the Prez heads to Tejas?
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 29, 2017, 11:24:59 AM
Melania is coming to see you, Jamis.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20364/heel-president-trump-heads-texas-medias-focus-emily-zanotti

Is it bad that during a hurricane response I'm thinking that she's looking pretty hot?

Also, SJW whiners at the link: It's pretty common for the military to gift their Commander in Chief flight jackets. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave one to the first lady.

Edit: Okay, on seeing a more close up image, it appears the jacket is not GI.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2017, 11:56:32 AM
Melania's going to Virginia while the Prez heads to Tejas?


I forgot he moved again.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2017, 09:47:03 PM
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/08/29/cue-sjw-heads-exploding-here-are-the-best-photos-of-toxic-masculinity-out-of-houston-so-far/

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 29, 2017, 10:21:53 PM
I guess a bunch o' them iggerant rednecks put down their guns 'n Bibles long enuf to fahr up thu airboats 'n git out thar to hepp some other folks what needed helpin'.

Who'd 'a thunk it?
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 29, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20394/university-tampa-fires-professor-who-said-emily-zanotti
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Scout26 on August 30, 2017, 01:26:37 AM
I feel for this women.  And the CNN reporterette got exactly what she deserved.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/08/29/yall-try-to-interview-asking-what-the-fck-is-wrong-houston-woman-goes-off-on-cnn-reporter-live-video/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 30, 2017, 07:39:38 AM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/20394/university-tampa-fires-professor-who-said-emily-zanotti

The professor's "apology":

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I apologize for the the tweets. My intention was never to offend anyone. This was a series of tweets taken out of context. I was referring to the GOP denial of climate change science and push to decrease funds from agencies that can help in a time like this. I hope all affected by the storm are safe and recover quickly. I also hope this helps the GOP realize the need to support climate change research and put in place better funding for agencies like NOAA and FEMA.

So the hurricane was caused by global warming, which must mean that if Trump had spent more money on climate change research rather than dropping out of the Paris accord, the hurricane could have been prevented.

As for more money to NOAA, how could that possibly help people whose homes are flooded? NOAA did their job -- they told people a big hurricane was coming, but the Democrats who run Houston told people not to evacuate.

Lastly, FEMA. Where does the Constitution give the feral government the authority or the duty to fix up homes in any one state at the expense of people in the other 49 states? All that does is encourage people to continue to build and live in places that are vulnerable to repeated storm damage. Absent massive federal intervention/interference, maybe people would have to do things like build cities in places that aren't located in a flood plain in a region prone to hurricanes.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 30, 2017, 07:42:36 AM
I feel for this women.  And the CNN reporterette got exactly what she deserved.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/08/29/yall-try-to-interview-asking-what-the-fck-is-wrong-houston-woman-goes-off-on-cnn-reporter-live-video/


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Admit it, the look on the reporter’s face is EPIC … plus she just keeps saying, ‘Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.’

Yeah -- "Sorry, sorry, sorry" -- all the while keeping the microphone in the poor woman's face.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 30, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
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Just as Hurricane Harvey was about to hit Texas last week, The New York Times did something that may have surprised its readers. While the rest of the nation was holding its breath as it wondered how those affected by the storm would fare, liberal elites were worried about the safety of their beliefs about the climate. Yet the flagship of liberal journalism published an article that poured cold water on the notion that climate change caused the devastation on the Gulf Coast.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/30/new-york-times-veers-denier-territory-questioning-harveys-link-climate-change/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on August 30, 2017, 03:27:26 PM
The professor's "apology":

So the hurricane was caused by global warming, which must mean that if Trump had spent more money on climate change research rather than dropping out of the Paris accord, the hurricane could have been prevented.

As for more money to NOAA, how could that possibly help people whose homes are flooded? NOAA did their job -- they told people a big hurricane was coming, but the Democrats who run Houston told people not to evacuate.

Lastly, FEMA. Where does the Constitution give the feral government the authority or the duty to fix up homes in any one state at the expense of people in the other 49 states? All that does is encourage people to continue to build and live in places that are vulnerable to repeated storm damage. Absent massive federal intervention/interference, maybe people would have to do things like build cities in places that aren't located in a flood plain in a region prone to hurricanes.
I don't blame anyone about the evacuation versus sheltering in place.  I normally evacuate to my parent's house West of Houston (near the Colorado River but off Cummins Creek) and they got water right up to the house with the creek drainage though it never came in (receding now).  Given that it hit near Corpus Christi and flooded people all the way across to Beaumont, that is a pretty big footprint for any hurricane.  It is still dumping rain on people in its path.  This is a record breaking flood and the response at the local and state level has been pretty good from my perspective. 

Thankfully, the high predictions of the Brazos River level just upstream of us have been lowered a few feet.  I won't know for certain I am good until probably Saturday.  My brother is in Missouri City (Southwest Houston).  He is day to day right now.  His house is dry, but he is in an evacuation area that might flood when the river reaches peak depth. 
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 30, 2017, 05:02:05 PM

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/30/cartoonist-explains-how-his-politico-panel-wasnt-aimed-at-texans-but-the-secessionist-movement/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 30, 2017, 08:40:57 PM
I'd support the death penalty for these kind of scum bags. Administered expediently.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/houston-dhs-officials-warn-residents-fake-agents.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/houston-dhs-officials-warn-residents-fake-agents.html)
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 30, 2017, 09:44:35 PM
I'd support the death penalty for these kind of scum bags.


I wouldn't, but perhaps a labor camp, with a special viewing area for the victims to sit and watch them breaking rocks for years on end.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 30, 2017, 09:46:36 PM

I wouldn't, but perhaps a labor camp, with a special viewing area for the victims to sit and watch them breaking rocks for years on end.

Must be some kind of commiepinkoliberal.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: RocketMan on August 31, 2017, 07:21:07 AM
I dunno.  The death penalty is kind of a "one and done" thing, while hard labor is "the gift that keeps on giving."
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Sideways_8 on August 31, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
As for more money to NOAA, how could that possibly help people whose homes are flooded? NOAA did their job -- they told people a big hurricane was coming, but the Democrats who run Houston told people not to evacuate.

Evacuating Houston is a nightmare. After seeing the mess in '05, I can understand their hesitancy in issuing that order.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 31, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
The Red Cross might finally be getting some bad press.

I think Twitchy is being a little hacky here trying to wrap Obama into it, because today Obama recommends them, tomorrow Trump will. Probably 8 out of 10 people would -- that's how good their PR machine is, which the article goes into a little bit. They are massive money wasters, as many of us have discussed here in the past. Hopefully some bad press will lead some folks to donate to organizations that direct more of their money to the event, versus their "operating funds".

I donated to Salvation Army, which has a special donation page running for the hurricane. Even with SA, you have to be a little careful nowadays. Not that they waste money, but I've been finding in their "general" donation fund, a lot of the money goes to addiction programs versus other kinds of help. I have no problem with people donating to that if they want to, but I prefer my money goes to victims of circumstance (to quote Curly Howard) rather than those who contributed to their problems. SA usually still lets you designate where your money goes, but you have to kind of hunt for that, or it goes straight to their general fund if you just click "donate".

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/08/31/did-barack-obama-accidentally-direct-people-to-donate-to-a-sketchy-charity/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: dogmush on August 31, 2017, 12:51:24 PM
With charities smaller is better. Less likely to get full of themselves.

Girls for Gunslinger and 5 Bravo's are doing a Harvey fundraiser. https://spin.org/g4g/harvey.asp

5B is based in Beaumont and is handling the distribution,  and full accounting of funds will be available on both FB pages. That's the kinda of charity I tend to gravitate to.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: zxcvbob on August 31, 2017, 12:59:30 PM
I would not give to the American Red Cross (too big and too wasteful), but I have considered giving to one of the local Red Cross chapters in SE Texas.  Maybe Matagorda County because my great aunt used to live there on the gulf side of the Intercoastal Waterway.  Does that work, or do they send the money to national?

I remember being evacuated by the Red Cross 10 or 15 years ago when visiting family at their new house in Sequin or New Braunfels (don't remember which and they don't live there anymore) and there was a massive rain and the Guadeloupe River flooded bigtime.  They hauled us out on the back of a big 18-wheeler with a flatbed trailer and we spent the night in a school; the RC and the local Walmart were wonderful.

I think spending the night in a shelter is a good experience for anybody, to see how some people live.  But I wouldn't seek out that experience ;)

I"ll probably just give to the Southern Baptists' disaster relief program (0% goes to overhead, and I volunteer for them sometimes) or the Samaritan's Purse.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: KD5NRH on August 31, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
Evacuating Houston is a nightmare. After seeing the mess in '05, I can understand their hesitancy in issuing that order.

Instead, we should build a water tight wall, 100 feet tall around Houston to protect it.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 31, 2017, 01:43:26 PM
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/30/cartoonist-explains-how-his-politico-panel-wasnt-aimed-at-texans-but-the-secessionist-movement/

Charlie Hebdo says "Hold my wine."
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/08/31/free-speech-charlie-hebdo-offends-texans-but-guess-what-nobody-will-get-shot-over-it/

Yeah, cuz the country that folded to the Nazis has a lot of room to talk.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: makattak on August 31, 2017, 01:58:22 PM
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/30/cartoonist-explains-how-his-politico-panel-wasnt-aimed-at-texans-but-the-secessionist-movement/

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/08/31/merica-redneck-army-saves-natl-guard-video-from-texas-brought-to-attention-of-a-certain-cartoonist/

Oh look. Texans themselves provided the best response to that moron.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Scout26 on August 31, 2017, 03:18:29 PM
I'm glad you had a good experience with the Red Cross.  After seeing how they treated soldiers while on active duty, I wouldn't donate to them if you put a gun to my head.

Like Ben, I did the SA Harvey fund donation.   I'm with dogmush, smaller is usually better, I've also enjoyed 5 Bravo, so next donation goes to them.

Just watch out for fake charities and the shysters, like this *wow such a strong word to use, check your anger at the door*. Yeah, she's a *wow such a strong word to use, check your anger at the door*.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/08/31/vile-fraud-linda-sarsour-defends-funding-pac-claims-white-supremacists-want-to-smear-woc/

Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 31, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
Linda Sarsour is indeed quite a hateful name to call anyone.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: zxcvbob on August 31, 2017, 04:05:46 PM
I'm glad you had a good experience with the Red Cross.  After seeing how they treated soldiers while on active duty, I wouldn't donate to them if you put a gun to my head.

Like Ben, I did the SA Harvey fund donation.   I'm with dogmush, smaller is usually better, I've also enjoyed 5 Bravo, so next donation goes to them.

Just watch out for fake charities and the shysters, like this *wow such a strong word to use, check your anger at the door*. Yeah, she's a *wow such a strong word to use, check your anger at the door*.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/08/31/vile-fraud-linda-sarsour-defends-funding-pac-claims-white-supremacists-want-to-smear-woc/


Is the American Red Cross the same as the International Red Cross?  I've always assumed it was the latter that soldiers deal with, and that they were different organizations.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on August 31, 2017, 06:19:08 PM
Holy crap. They are still talking about Melania's shoes.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/31/harvey-update-media-analyzes-its-own-analysis-of-melania-trumps-shoes-finds-it-not-sexist/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 31, 2017, 06:28:17 PM
Holy crap. They are still talking about Melania's shoes.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/31/harvey-update-media-analyzes-its-own-analysis-of-melania-trumps-shoes-finds-it-not-sexist/


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Perched atop her pumps, she becomes a caricature of the one percent.

I was unaware that high-heeled shoes were so expensive.

Perched atop their newspaper-grey tower, the Washington Post becomes a caricature of Acela corridor bubble-think.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Sideways_8 on August 31, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
Holy crap. They are still talking about Melania's shoes.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/08/31/harvey-update-media-analyzes-its-own-analysis-of-melania-trumps-shoes-finds-it-not-sexist/

The media has to cover important issues. I have a suspicion that no matter what her footwear choices are, she is going to get bashed over it. One instance, the shoes are getting bashed for not being appropriate. The next instant the outfit is being bashed for looking like it belongs in a war zone.

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True, Melania would risk an ankle sprain by merely stepping out of a climate-controlled limousine in those shoes, never mind walking through mud and debris to comfort evacuees recouping in shelters. But the rest of her outfit was just as obnoxious. It was as if an assistant told her they’d be roughing it on a mission to an inhospitable place of unimaginable devastation, and Melania thought “war zone.” Her aviators and bomber jacket are playing at the courage and ready-for-anything spirit that defines most mainstream depictions of the military, as if she were risking anything or helping anyone at all on this trip to Texas. (She’s not.)

There's no appeasing people like that. Theyre going to keep pushing until they win (not good for us) or people push back hard against them (also not good for us).
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Scout26 on August 31, 2017, 10:52:46 PM
Is the American Red Cross the same as the International Red Cross?  I've always assumed it was the latter that soldiers deal with, and that they were different organizations.

Nope, US military deals with the American Red Cross.  The ARC is a part of the International Red Cross/Red Crescent.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 31, 2017, 11:45:23 PM
Did someone mention the American Red Cross?

http://www.newser.com/story/248010/red-cross-vp-on-portion-of-donations-going-to-relief-really-dont-know.html

Neat bit of possible evasion:

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The organization's president and CEO, Gail McGovern, was on CBS News Thursday defending the ARC, and she said that on average, 91 cents of every dollar the Red Cross spends goes toward its services for victims.

Note that was 91 cents of every dollar "spent," not every dollar taken in. I wonder if they consider staff salaries and benefits as "spending." Most reports I've seen over the years put the ARC's percentage of donations that go to actual programs as being FAR less than 91 percent. In fact, her statement is a repetition of a misstatement she has made before:

http://www.npr.org/2014/12/04/368453320/red-cross-misstates-how-donors-dollars-are-spent

https://www.propublica.org/article/red-cross-ceo-has-been-misleading-about-donations
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: KD5NRH on September 01, 2017, 12:39:21 AM
My complaint is that she was wearing slacks with them. The whole point of heels like that is that they really bring out the shaping of nice calves and quads...which Melania definitely has.

Dated a 5'8" woman for a while who had a thing for 6" heels.  Didn't bother me a bit that it made her noticeably taller than me, (especially adding the Texas big hair) as long as she could dance and wore skirts or skin tight jeans that showed she really had the legs for it.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Unisaw on September 01, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
This is one of the people criticizing Melania's fashion choices.  She's a contributing fashion editor at Vogue.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=lynn+yaeger&FORM=HDRSC2
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on September 01, 2017, 01:30:28 PM
This is one of the people criticizing Melania's fashion choices.  She's a contributing fashion editor at Vogue.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=lynn+yaeger&FORM=HDRSC2

Yup, we're in Bizarro World alright.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on September 01, 2017, 01:54:19 PM
Wow, so now people are complaining about soldiers resting at a High School.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/09/01/texas-high-school-removes-photo-of-soldiers-sleeping-in-the-hallway-after-shameful-criticism/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Scout26 on September 01, 2017, 03:04:16 PM
WT Serious F ??? 

They are soldiers. one thing you learn in Basic Training is how to sleep anywhere any time.  I spent many a night on the floor of some building (if lucky, and not sleeping on the ground).  Especially if you've been working to the point of exhaustion.

Can't people just close their pieholes for one moment and get over themselves??
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: zxcvbob on September 01, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
I have not seen any outrage over that photo, just outrage over the outrage.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 01, 2017, 04:55:59 PM
Saw where Trump ponied up $1M  from his own pocket.
So is he grandstanding, wealth-shaming, pandering or just trying to buy votes?
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Scout26 on September 01, 2017, 07:44:47 PM
Saw where Trump ponied up $1M  from his own pocket.
So is he grandstanding, wealth-shaming, pandering or just trying to buy votes?

According to the left "Yes".
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on September 01, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
Saw where Trump ponied up $1M  from his own pocket.
So is he grandstanding, wealth-shaming, pandering or just trying to buy votes?

You forgot "cheapskate".
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on September 01, 2017, 09:45:08 PM
I have not seen any outrage over that photo, just outrage over the outrage.
1.  Who complained? 
2.  How many complaints did it take before the school knuckled under and removed it? 
3.  I have to wonder if there were no complaints but some squish in the school administration removed it for fear of complaints. 
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 01, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
1.  Who complained? 
2.  How many complaints did it take before the school knuckled under and removed it? 
3.  I have to wonder if there were no complaints but some squish in the school administration removed it for fear of complaints. 

I THINK IT'S TERRIBLE THAT WE'RE MILITARIZING SCHOOLS! WE CAN'T ALLOW SOLDIERS IN UNIFORMS TO SET FOOT ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.

IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN. *







* Obligatory disclaimer
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: 230RN on September 01, 2017, 11:08:25 PM
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Quote from: RoadKingLarry on Today at 02:55:59 PM
Saw where Trump ponied up $1M  from his own pocket.

So is he grandstanding, wealth-shaming, pandering or just trying to buy votes?


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Quote from: Amy Schumer:
According to the left "Yes".

Boy, you got that right.

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 There's no appeasing people like that. Theyre going to keep pushing until they win (not good for us) or people push back hard against them (also not good for us.

Boy, you got that right, too.

I can't decide whether leftists are smarter than we are about setting up corners for us to get stuck in, or they just have more time and money to hire those who can think up corners for us to get stuck in.

???

Terry
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: MechAg94 on September 01, 2017, 11:37:17 PM
I THINK IT'S TERRIBLE THAT WE'RE MILITARIZING SCHOOLS! WE CAN'T ALLOW SOLDIERS IN UNIFORMS TO SET FOOT ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.

IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN. *







* Obligatory disclaimer
And that was a school administrator.   =D
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on September 02, 2017, 12:54:40 PM
And now Trump isn't hugging anyone. The article below doesn't say that specifically, though they infer it with the Pence comment (remember Pence visited at a later date). However, I did hear it specifically stated on the teevee this morning. The left was even praising Bush over his "empathy" (nevermind the bashing he got during that event). Of course Obama singing Amazing Grace was also reverently mentioned.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but response and rescue were still in full force last Tuesday. If Trump went to the hardest hit areas to hug victims, he would have been piled on (and rightly so) for turning things upside down, as would happen with the logistics of any presidential event in the field. In the most intense time of the response, I want my president operational, not kissing babies for PR.

I suppose at this point this is all a big win for Trump. The left wanted desperately to show how he failed "the people". Yet we have all levels of government pretty much getting along, and the people of Texas are driving progressives to drink with their "can do" attitude that is greatly contributing to the relatively smooth response we've seen here. Smoother than any other disaster response in recent memory - especially considering the magnitude of the event.

So all progressives and SJWs have left is hugs and shoes. I encourage them to continue with that.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/02/politics/donald-trump-texas-harvey/index.html


Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Ben on September 02, 2017, 01:24:59 PM
Oh - and Melania wore stilettos again today on her way to Texas.

I award her two thumbs up.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/09/02/ha-melania-trump-gives-media-another-chance-to-lose-their-minds-by-leaving-for-texas-in-stilettos/
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 02, 2017, 01:47:10 PM
Oh - and Melania wore stilettos again today on her way to Texas.

I award her two thumbs up.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/09/02/ha-melania-trump-gives-media-another-chance-to-lose-their-minds-by-leaving-for-texas-in-stilettos/


All that's left is for Gov. Abbot to make her an honorary [sic] Texan.

I also note she is again needlessly accessorizing w/ sun glasses, which was also held against her the last time.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: 230RN on September 02, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
Ben cited:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/02/politics/donald-trump-texas-harvey/index.html

That was a CNN article?  I'm stunned.

Five'll getcha eight those two reporters ("By Betsy Klein and Jeremy Diamond, CNN") are due for re-education or relocation.

Maybe both.

Terry

ETA: "CNN's Stephanie Elam contributed to this report."
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 02, 2017, 10:28:26 PM
I don't watch CNN for the same reason I don't eat out of the toilet.
Title: Re: Hurricanes, Politics, and Texans
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 05, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
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"Don't come into Fort Bend County and start waving guns around because you could leave in a bag," Nehls said.

http://abc13.com/news/homeowner-fatally-shoots-robbery-suspect-in-fort-bend-co/1334391/