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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: freakazoid on October 10, 2017, 07:53:18 PM

Title: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: freakazoid on October 10, 2017, 07:53:18 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuit-against-bump-stock-makers/ar-AAtgMTi?ocid=ientp

Well three victims sue that is. I'm actually a little confused on who is suing and it is intended for. It says,
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The lawsuit by three Nevada residents who attended the festival does not involve the injuries that hundreds of people suffered as a result of the shooting, or the families of the 58 people who were killed.
So who is suing, the only people left would be the ones killed and I'm pretty sure they can't sue.
It also states that the stocks are originally meant for people with disabilities, I thought that was purely things like the SIG brace.
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The lawsuit said the company acted with fraud, oppression and malice toward plaintiffs and showed an intention and willingness to injure people.
:rofl: How the hell do they come up with stuff like this?
If I had been there I would see if there is a way to counter-sue them.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: never_retreat on October 10, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
Didn't those idiots after the Colorado thing try that and loose. Oh and owe something like 500k to the gun store.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: Firethorn on October 10, 2017, 08:37:50 PM
Didn't those idiots after the Colorado thing try that and loose. Oh and owe something like 500k to the gun store.

I do not believe that firearm accessory manufacturers enjoy the same protections as firearm makers.

That said, a judge could rule that accessories that are more or less permanently mounted and required for regular use of the weapon - IE a stock in this case, are also covered.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: MechAg94 on October 10, 2017, 11:09:30 PM
I do not believe that firearm accessory manufacturers enjoy the same protections as firearm makers.

That said, a judge could rule that accessories that are more or less permanently mounted and required for regular use of the weapon - IE a stock in this case, are also covered.
But they might have a little trouble showing a jury that a piece of plastic killed a bunch of people.  Jury selection might be key if it makes it that far.  Could be this is just a group trying to get in on the emotional reaction on the shooting while it is still there.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: wmenorr67 on October 11, 2017, 07:02:05 AM
Families of those killed would have a better wrongful death case against the estate of the shooter.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: erictank on October 11, 2017, 07:18:49 AM
But they might have a little trouble showing a jury that a piece of plastic killed a bunch of people.  Jury selection might be key if it makes it that far.  Could be this is just a group trying to get in on the emotional reaction on the shooting while it is still there.

Bingo.

Of course, they still have to show how it was the item, and not the criminal misuse by a human being, that caused the injuries and deaths.  Going to be a tough sell to the jury, I'd think.

We don't sue the maker of a steering wheel cover - or even the car itself - when someone drives through a playground and runs over a bunch of kids.  We blame the driver, as is proper.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: K Frame on October 11, 2017, 07:49:35 AM
Makes you wonder why no one has ever tried to sue the gasoline manufacturers for creating a product that fuels hyper-horsepowered cars of death.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 11, 2017, 09:37:53 AM
...hyper-horsepowered cars of death.


Is that the name of your garage band?
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: MechAg94 on October 11, 2017, 12:49:12 PM
Makes you wonder why no one has ever tried to sue the gasoline manufacturers for creating a product that fuels hyper-horsepowered cars of death.
What about someone doused with gasoline?
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: MechAg94 on October 11, 2017, 12:49:50 PM
Families of those killed would have a better wrongful death case against the estate of the shooter.
That is a good point.  He wasn't poor.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 11, 2017, 06:46:49 PM
Lawsuits against the hotel...

http://www.businessinsider.com/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting-liability-2017-10


Has anyone sued the concert venue, yet? Or the city?
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: TechMan on October 11, 2017, 07:35:38 PM
Lawsuits against the hotel...

http://www.businessinsider.com/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting-liability-2017-10


Has anyone sued the concert venue, yet? Or the city?

The bottom feeders can only work so fast.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: Doggy Daddy on October 12, 2017, 02:38:42 PM
Lawsuits against the hotel...

http://www.businessinsider.com/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting-liability-2017-10


Has anyone sued the concert venue, yet? Or the city?

That was outside city limits.  Maybe sue the county?

FWIW, The Strip is outside city limits.  I've had people (visitors) tell me how much they've enjoyed their trip, and how they can't wait to come back.  I'd ask if they ventured off the strip or went downtown.  When they'd say no, it would be entertaining to inform them that they never did actually make it to Las Vegas if they never went North of Sahara Ave.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: K Frame on October 13, 2017, 07:37:27 AM
What about someone doused with gasoline?

Ugh...

We had one of those here in the DC metro a few weeks ago.

ahole threw his pregnant girlfriend in the bathtub, doused her with (I think) gasoline, and torched her.

She survived, but is still hospitalized with critical burns. The baby was delivered by C section and is doing well.
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: agricola on October 20, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
Families of those killed would have a better wrongful death case against the estate of the shooter.

Perhaps, though I think MGM would be a much better bet at this stage.  Has anyone found out whether they actually called 9/11 in time to report the shooting of the security guard?
Title: Re: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 20, 2017, 01:05:55 PM
Perhaps, though I think MGM would be a much better bet at this stage.  Has anyone found out whether they actually called 9/11 in time to report the shooting of the security guard?


What?! You want accurate intel on the Vegas Massacre? What are you, new?  ???