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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: mtnbkr on October 12, 2017, 07:35:06 AM
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I need to paint my new tube bumper (currently unrusted bare steel). It doesn't make sense spending $200+ on professional paint or powder coating, so I'm going to rattlecan it.
I'm considering either Rustoleum with a self-etching primer basecoat or Hammerite. Both get good reviews, but depending on which automotive forum you're looking at, one is preferred over the other. The benefit of Rustoleum is that it'll be easier to source locally. Hammerite seems tougher and should be easier to apply since it doesn't require any surface prep.
What would you guys use?
Chris
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My advice take Rustoleum
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Keeping in mind that I have zero experience painting bumpers, would bed liner be a good choice?
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Rustoleum from the simple fact that you can quickly and easily touch it up.
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Keeping in mind that I have zero experience painting bumpers, would bed liner be a good choice?
Actually, that's another one that gets used a lot. Touch ups are a concern though.
Chris
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Rustoleum from the simple fact that you can quickly and easily touch it up.
That's kind of what I'm thinking. It'll be easier to get paint locally as well.
Chris
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"It'll be easier to get paint locally as well."
That's exactly what I meant. You can go into pretty much any hardware store, big box home center, or even WalMart/Kmart/Sears and have a very good chance of getting the same color Rustoleum.
I've never even heard of the other brand you're considering.
I do know that with a little prep Rustoleum overcoats very nicely.
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Actually, that's another one that gets used a lot. Touch ups are a concern though.
Chris
I touch up my bed liner with rattle can bedliner all the time. I would co with that since it's durable, and the texture will hide the imperfections inherent in a rattlecan's spray.
Rustoleum makes bed liner in a couple colors, roll on and spray cans, that is available in Wal-Mart and like every auto parts store in the country.
http://www.autozone.com/paint-and-body/truck-bed-coating?filterByKeyWord=spray+bed+liner&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false&model=liner
That's your best bet.
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ZRC, then bed liner.
https://www.amazon.com/ZRC-Galvanizing-Compound-Aerosol-Z-R-C/dp/B00H9GPY7C
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I touch up my bed liner with rattle can bedliner all the time. I would co with that since it's durable, and the texture will hide the imperfections inherent in a rattlecan's spray.
Rustoleum makes bed liner in a couple colors, roll on and spray cans, that is available in Wal-Mart and like every auto parts store in the country.
http://www.autozone.com/paint-and-body/truck-bed-coating?filterByKeyWord=spray+bed+liner&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false&model=liner
That's your best bet.
I'll take another look at it, but I recall reading something that made me remove bedliner from the list. How long does it take to cure? That's another concern because, living in a townhome, I'll be painting this in my driveway on a tarp most likely.
ZRC, then bed liner.
https://www.amazon.com/ZRC-Galvanizing-Compound-Aerosol-Z-R-C/dp/B00H9GPY7C
And now we're back up to powder coat price levels (ZRC is $20/can shipped, I'll need a few 12oz cans, plus the bedliner at roughly $10/can.
I'll give it a look though.
Chris
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I thought you painted a tube bumper by just smashing into cars, collecting their paint. It's fun and free!
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Self etching primer is fine, also at the auto parts store. It's IIRC, what Rustoleum recommends for their bed liner.
The can of Duplicolor bed liner (which is what I have in my garage right now. Same stuff) says 3-4 light coats, with 20 min between coats. 1 hour cure time before you roll the quart stuff on if you go that route. It should be dry enough to pick up and put back in the garage in an hour or 2. I'd let it sit a couple days before I bolted the bumper on. I can't be more exact then that because I only use this stuff for touch ups. I just spray it on and walk away after I scratch the two part liner I sprayed in to start with.
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FWIW here's what it looks like.
The base liner is Raptor two-part, and if you look around the screws you'll see the rattle can touch up. Slightly lighter black [/Archer voice]. But it's good stuff, and if you did the whole thing in the same brand, the color's would match. Then just spray some more as needed.
(https://i.imgur.com/D6Y31in.jpg)
* Truck is dirty. the large color variations are dust from a load of rock I carried.
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Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer. It doesn't even need a top coat if you like the dull maroon color ;/
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Most the Rustoleum stuff seems to hold up well. I use the brush on enamels frequently. They take a long time to dry, but produce a hard glassy coating.
Kind of odd, but I've also found that the Rustoleum high temperature paint is surprisingly durable. It only comes in flat black, but I liked how it's held up on my smoker enough that I've taken to using it for other things too.
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I'm not home right now, but I needed to touch up the hitch on my 4Runner just last week and found a Rustoleum version in a matte black that appear to be designed just for stuff like bumpers and hitches. Don't know if it is just marketing, but it applied and blended well,and I was happy with the result.
I got it at Walmart. If you haven't made a decision before I get home tomorrow, I'll post the name of it.
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Rustoleum from the simple fact that you can quickly and easily touch it up.
Agreed.
Long-time Jeeper here.
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Also (tangent - sorry Chris :laugh: ), those of you touching up your bedliners - are they do it yourself liners? Because I spent nine years beating the hell out of my last liner and am working on the current truck with dump runs, rocks, gravel, shovel blades, etc. and have scraped up, but never penetrated my Line-X liners.
My previous truck had the older Line-X with the kevlar topcoat, the new one just has the standard coating, so maybe I'll end up chipping into it eventually.
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Rustoleum is what I did my land cruiser bumper with. Holding up great 3 years later.
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How many cans of paint or bedliner do you guys think it would take to cover the bumper? This is the one I got:
http://www.addictedoffroad.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=2&zenid=ursbto2mfck7qlo2ei8hhj98j5
Mine has the square stinger.
Chris
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I'm thinking you're looking at at least 3, possibly 5, for two coats.
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I'm thinking you're looking at at least 3, possibly 5, for two coats.
Yeah, I'd say at least three of the standard sized cans. You're going to lose a lot of paint to overspray when doing the tubing.
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I just put a few coats of primer onto the box section that mates the bumper to the frame. Once that cures fully, I'll give it a couple coats of flat black. Depending on how that turns out, I'll decide if I want flat black or bedliner on the bumper itself.
It took nearly a can of primer for the box section, but it has a lot of surface area. I'd expect two cans of primer and 3-4 cans of paint for the bumper.
Chris
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Hammerite will work. Rustoleum Industrial is really good stuff but can be hard to source locally.
Also think about Chassis and Roll Bar paint. It's made for tough environments.
POR15 is about the toughest non-epoxy/powdercoat finish I've come across. Downside is you have to roll or brush it on.
Brad
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That's a pretty nice bumper to rattle can.
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That's a pretty nice bumper to rattle can.
It is, but it's going on a 20yo SUV, so it feels excessive to spend a lot of money on painting it. I'll reserve judgement until after I see how the mounting assembly turns out.
Chris
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Another vote for bedliner.
rustoleum (https://www.grainger.com/product/4YLD1?cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916762237!!!!309151848136!&ef_id=WAFcVQAABEXd8Dh5:20171013114714:s&kwid=productads-adid^50916762237-device^c-plaid^309151848136-sku^4YLD1-adType^PLA) makes a product for that
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Sounds like mtnbkr has already started spraying, but for anyone interested, the stuff I used on my hitch and liked, available at Walmart in the auto department, is "Rustoleum acrylic enamel - 2X coverage".
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Sounds like mtnbkr has already started spraying, but for anyone interested, the stuff I used on my hitch and liked, available at Walmart in the auto department, is "Rustoleum acrylic enamel - 2X coverage".
Actually, the only thing I've sprayed so far is the piece that mates the bumper to the frame. It's a 30lb "box" that is going to be mostly hidden, so I used it as a painting experiment. I painted it with matte black enamel (two coats of SE Primer and three coats paint). It looks good. Still trying to decide between that at bedliner for the bumper itself.
I've used that 2x coverage stuff on other projects and found it runs like a mofo. I won't be using it this time around.
Chris