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Title: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: Ben on April 13, 2018, 01:00:47 PM
Apparently fry sauce is now a cultural appropriation.

All kinds of ridiculous stuff with this story.

Colonizing? Gimme a break. Leave it to the Washington Post to make this a Latino issue when fry sauce is all over the place in Utah, Idaho, and I think even parts of Washington/Oregon. "Would you like some fry sauce?" is a regular waitress question most anywhere I have sat down for a burger in Idaho (if it's not already on the table). Hardly a "cult following". It's also been "invented" in a lot more places than Puerto Rico.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/13/heinz-promoted-its-new-mayochup-and-sparked-an-international-controversy/?noredirect=on
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 13, 2018, 01:32:00 PM
I don't get the impression that Heinz is claiming they invented it -- they're just recognizing it and packaging it for sale. I don't see what's wrong with that, and I don't see it as "cultural appropriation." As usual, the WaPo is pushing a nothingburger in hopes of generating more divides among people in the U.S. They won't be satisfied until full-fledged intercultural civil wars break out.

Where do we stop? Do we have to close all Italian, Chinese, Greek, and Thai restaurants? Or only allow people of their respective ethnicities to eat there?

I've never heard a mix of mayonnaise and Ketchup called anything other than "It's a mix of mayonnaise and ketchup," but we used it in my family 60+ years ago when I was a kid. My late wife was from South America. Her sister-in-law uses it as a dip for hard-boiled quail eggs (delicious, by the way). When I asked what the sauce was, it didn't have a name. It was "a mix of mayonnaise and ketchup."
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: bedlamite on April 13, 2018, 01:35:07 PM
That was the secret sauce at Bronco Burger in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Why is that what I remember?
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: MillCreek on April 13, 2018, 01:47:59 PM
That was the secret sauce at Bronco Burger in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Why is that what I remember?

Dude, all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: robear on April 13, 2018, 01:51:02 PM
All this over Fancy Sauce?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VYU0YZSbo
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 13, 2018, 01:53:09 PM
Oh no. I be mixin' all kinds of condiments. Barbecue and mustard. Tabasco and honey. The other day, I combined mayo with kecap manis. Please don't rat me out, you guys!
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: p12 on April 13, 2018, 01:55:09 PM
Freddy’s Steak Burger fry sauce is like icing on a cake.

Damn your making me hungry!


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Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: 230RN on April 13, 2018, 02:00:18 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry_sauce

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Fry sauce is a condiment often served with French fries or tostones (twice-fried plantain slices) in many places in the world. It is usually a combination of one part tomato ketchup and two parts mayonnaise. It is similar to traditional Russian dressing and Thousand Island dressing.

Ah.  So now I know.  Never heard the term "fry sauce" before.

I don't get out much.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: K Frame on April 13, 2018, 02:18:16 PM
I live for the day when someone accuses me of appropriating their culture because I'm eating, drinking, using, etc., something that is "theirs."

It's gonna be a fun *expletive deleted*ing day...
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 13, 2018, 02:32:02 PM
I live for the day when someone accuses me of appropriating their culture because I'm eating, drinking, using, etc., something that is "theirs."

It's gonna be a fun *expletive deleted*ing day...


Same here.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: MechAg94 on April 13, 2018, 02:32:47 PM
Who gives a damn who invented it.  None of them called it Mayochup.  None of them invented Mayo or Ketchup.  Why should they get some sort of credit for combining two things they didn't invent?  What a silly thing to get upset about.

Besides, I never heard of any of it, but I am not a food guy anyway.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: MillCreek on April 13, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
The fry sauce I make at home substitutes a good BBQ sauce for the ketchup.  Probably closer to a 1:1 BBQ sauce and mayo, though.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: MillCreek on April 13, 2018, 02:42:50 PM
If you mix a 1:2 ratio of Thai sweet chili sauce (we use Mae Ploy) to mayo, you have the Bang Bang shrimp sauce at the Bonefish grill.  My wife and I like to make a pot of linguini, add some cooked shrimp (breaded or plain) and add the Bang Bang sauce.  Very good.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: Ben on April 13, 2018, 02:45:26 PM
The fry sauce I make at home substitutes a good BBQ sauce for the ketchup.  Probably closer to a 1:1 BBQ sauce and mayo, though.

Why have I never thought of BBQ sauce? I'm trying that.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: just Warren on April 13, 2018, 03:26:28 PM
I'll put Ranch, mayo, ketchap, BBQ sauce, honey mustard and whatever else I can pull out of my fridge or out of my ziploc cache of "sauce packets I've taken from fast-food stands" down on my plate with nary a concern for others or their cultures.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: HankB on April 13, 2018, 03:46:36 PM
Cultural appropriation?

Let me guess - like last year's kerfuffle about white women wearing hoop earrings, this comes from someone whose traditional "culture" doesn't include shoes, pants, flush toilets, toilet paper, modern dentistry, antibiotics, or electricity?
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: MillCreek on April 13, 2018, 04:00:10 PM
Why have I never thought of BBQ sauce? I'm trying that.

Red Robin calls it 'Campfire sauce'.  They use Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce, which I find far too sweet.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: Fly320s on April 13, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
If you mix a 1:2 ratio of Thai sweet chili sauce (we use Mae Ploy) to mayo, you have the Bang Bang shrimp sauce at the Bonefish grill.  My wife and I like to make a pot of linguini, add some cooked shrimp (breaded or plain) and add the Bang Bang sauce.  Very good.

Add a few dashes of Sriracha to make it perfect.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: 230RN on April 14, 2018, 02:56:39 AM
Cultural appropriation?

Let me guess - like last year's kerfuffle about white women wearing hoop earrings, this comes from someone whose traditional "culture" doesn't include shoes, pants, flush toilets, toilet paper, modern dentistry, antibiotics, or electricity?

I felt sooooo guilty laughing at that.

I'm not even going to sign this.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: K Frame on April 20, 2018, 11:44:40 AM
I mixed mayonnaise and ketchup together last night as a dipping sauce for oven roasted chicken.

I'm sure that somehow, somewhere, I've appropriated someone's cultural identity in some horribly egregious way, especially given that I'm a fat, white redneck.

I am literally worse than Hitler.
Title: Re: Fry Sauce is Cultural Appropriation!!!
Post by: makattak on April 20, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
It's mayonnaise and ketchup the "secret" to a Whopper?

Someone needs to sue Burger King for stealing that from Puerto Rico!