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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Scout26 on July 09, 2018, 05:16:58 AM
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already being decried and protested against and it's not 9am yet...
And the left is going to stroke out this week, what with the SCOTUS pick, NATO Summit and summit with Putin. They won't know whether to poop or go blind...As every day will bring a fresh outrage.
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At this point if Trump nominated a clone/cross of Ginsberg and Sotomeyer the left would still find something to object to.
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I signed onto the Virginia Dems mailing list last year. Mostly it's an annoying whine festival of GIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEY, which I expected, but sometimes there's absolute comedy gold to be found in their Chickenshit Little screeches of "THE SKY IS FALLING AND DONALD TRUMP IS EATING OUR SOULS!"
The one from Tim Kaine last week was just delicious in its schadenfreude, wrapped in a layer of crunchy irony and bitter tears...
I summarize them on my Facebook page for the amusement of my right-thinking friends and to the absolute fury of the liberals on my friends list...
Latest shriek from Tim Kaine...
MIKE!!!! In 2016, the Republican Senate leadership established a precedent when it refused to take up the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Merrick Garland: Do not fill a Supreme Court vacancy in an election year!!!
TIM!!!!! Why not just filibust....
Oh... right....
Hugs and kisses to Harry Reid...
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There is a Fox News article today where they sent a reporter to ask New York University students about Trumps supposed pick. They were all fire and brimstone, end of the world gnashing of teeth about how awful it was until the reporter asked for the nominee's name.
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I love that he tweeted last night about his upcoming pick... he just did it to trigger and cause an extended mass amygdala response in a segment of the population.
There are millions of people on edge and ready to lose their *expletive deleted*it when he makes his announcement.
Best.President.Ever.
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I love that he tweeted last night about his upcoming pick... he just did it to trigger and cause an extended mass amygdala response in a segment of the population.
There are millions of people on edge and ready to lose their *expletive deleted*it when he makes his announcement.
Best.President.Ever.
When Trump was first running, I was very opposed to him for a myriad of reasons. One of lesser import was that he seems brash, trollish, and crude. Not "Presidential."
As I've warmed up to him (and many of my other misgivings have, at least, so far, been allayed) I've decided I'm happy with someone brash and crude in the Oval Office.
The president ISN'T special. He is just like everyone else and I think it's useful to have someone with obvious personality flaws in the office to remind people that the president isn't and should not be considered "better" than that. Whoever he is, he's a man, and has failings and flaws, just like everyone else.
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We've had brash, crude and unrefined presidents before. Andrew Jacskson, comes to mind. He gets big points for eliminating the debt and loses big points for the Indian Removal Act, but Congress has to own it's part in that also.
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We've had brash, crude and unrefined presidents before. Andrew Jacskson, comes to mind. He gets big points for eliminating the debt and loses big points for the Indian Removal Act, but Congress has to own it's part in that also.
That was my exact thought as I came around to this position.
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When Trump was first running, I was very opposed to him for a myriad of reasons. One of lesser import was that he seems brash, trollish, and crude. Not "Presidential."
As I've warmed up to him (and many of my other misgivings have, at least, so far, been allayed) I've decided I'm happy with someone brash and crude in the Oval Office.
The president ISN'T special. He is just like everyone else and I think it's useful to have someone with obvious personality flaws in the office to remind people that the president isn't and should not be considered "better" than that. Whoever he is, he's a man, and has failings and flaws, just like everyone else.
I'm the same way. I didn't care for him during the campaign. I voted Cruz in the Primary and wrote in Mattis in the General. I was getting ready to bury some guns (subsequently lost in a tragic boating accident), and hunker down for Hillary. After the election, I went back and read what he had posted as his positions/promises on his website (I had read them before the election and said "Yeah, right....whatever.) I told people if he did even half of what he promised, he'd be a great president. 25% and he'd be "good enough".
Right now, I'd rate him at 75%. (The lack of a wall, and Jeff Sessions/Russia are the disappoiontments.)
Can't wait to see the left head toward the fainting couches tonight.
Even this British MP gets it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3r7NwtsnA
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I wasn't a trump fan in the beginning but I like him more every day.
He is doing what he said he was going to do and he doesn't care if people like him. And he has almost made a sport out of rattling his political opponents.
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I'm the same way. I didn't care for him during the campaign. I voted Cruz in the Primary and wrote in Mattis in the General. I was getting ready to bury some guns (subsequently lost in a tragic boating accident), and hunker down for Hillary. After the election, I went back and read what he had posted as his positions/promises on his website (I had read them before the election and said "Yeah, right....whatever.) I told people if he did even half of what he promised, he'd be a great president. 25% and he'd be "good enough".
Right now, I'd rate him at 75%. (The lack of a wall, and Jeff Sessions/Russia are the disappoiontments.)
Can't wait to see the left head toward the fainting couches tonight.
Even this British MP gets it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3r7NwtsnA
That lack of wall you can pin directly on congress.
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That lack of wall you can pin directly on congress.
Yes and no. Trump is the party leader and the wall has overwhelming public support. He should be able to push it through.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-finally-unveils-scotus-nominee-alex-jones/
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Yes and no. Trump is the party leader and the wall has overwhelming public support. He should be able to push it through.
And you can still lay that on Congress or at least the House and Senate leadership. Ryan just had a compromise amnesty bill fall through so I am not sure what he thinks he is doing.
The Democrats have become the pro illegal immigration party (and pro-drug lord party and pro human trafficking party) and are trying to block any attempt to pass funding for a wall. And I don't think Ryan and McConnell want it bad enough.
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And you can still lay that on Congress or at least the House and Senate leadership. Ryan just had a compromise amnesty bill fall through so I am not sure what he thinks he is doing.
The Democrats have become the pro illegal immigration party (and pro-drug lord party and pro human trafficking party) and are trying to block any attempt to pass funding for a wall. And I don't think Ryan and McConnell don't want it bad enough.
Fixed.
Trump needs to play hard ball with Congress, especially with those two, to get funding for the wall.
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One piece of commentary I heard last week mentioned that one of the biggest election issues for Republican voters was border security. I imagine it is a big issue for a lot of non-Republicans also. Even though no wall has been built, Trump and a handful of other Republicans are the ONLY ones in favor of tighter border security. The Democrats seem close to an open borders platform. What I am getting at is that even if Trump hasn't built a wall yet, there is no one else out there trying to get those voters and Democrats are actively pushing them away. We will see what happens in November.
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We've had brash, crude and unrefined presidents before. Andrew Jacskson, comes to mind.
So does Lydon Baines Johnson. They just don't come much brasher, cruder, and more unrefined than LBJ.
In the "privacy" of the white house tapes, Nixon was rather crude and unrefined, too.
I suspect that Hillary would put them all to shame in the crude department.
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The Democrats have become the pro illegal immigration party (and pro-drug lord party and pro human trafficking party) and are trying to block any attempt to pass funding for a wall. And I don't think Ryan and McConnell want it bad enough.
It's clear that Ryan doesn't want it at all. Not sure about McConnell.
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It is Brett Kavanaugh.
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kavanaugh seems okish on gun rights, we have to get national reciprocity and strict scrutiny, we must.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-finally-unveils-scotus-nominee-alex-jones/
Is this the best timeline? :rofl:
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kavanaugh seems okish on gun rights, we have to get national reciprocity and strict scrutiny, we must.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/05/potential-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-troubling-record-religious-liberty/
The problem isn’t Kavanaugh’s analysis on the merits, which seems fine. It’s that Kavanaugh, disagreeing with the majority, even reached the merits at all. To do so, he had to find—and did find—that the plaintiffs had standing to bring the challenge because of offended-observer status. In other words, Kavanaugh’s opinion stands for the proposition (although he doesn’t use these words) that under the Establishment and Speech Clauses, the psychological harm of being offended is a sufficient injury to trigger the jurisdiction of a federal court to hear one’s lawsuit.
Let's hope he doesn't rule that way at SCOTUS.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/judge-kavanaughs-record-on-second-amendment-gun-rights/
https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/06/scotus-contender-brett-kavanaugh-on-gun
Kavanaugh, who has served on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit since 2006, dissented from a 2011 decision in which a three-judge panel upheld the District of Columbia's ban on so-called assault weapons and its requirement that all guns be registered. Kavanaugh disagreed with the majority's use of "intermediate scrutiny," saying an analysis "based on text, history, and tradition" is more consistent with the Supreme Court's Second Amendment precedents.
TL;DR: Strong on 1A and 2A, so-so on 4A.
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http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/05/potential-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-troubling-record-religious-liberty/
Let's hope he doesn't rule that way at SCOTUS.
Why would we expect him to rule otherwise? SCOTUS appointments are for life -- it's not like he might have to run for reelection in two/four/eight years.
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Why would we expect him to rule otherwise? SCOTUS appointments are for life -- it's not like he might have to run for reelection in two/four/eight years.
He might figure out the error of his ways? He might not encounter such a case, or not be the one to write the decision on it? Other reasons may occur to you.
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Who writes the decision is less important for the immediate case than how they vote. The language of the majority decision becomes more important down the road, when it gets cited in future cases.
As we have seen (unfortunately) with Heller.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-secrets-of-leonard-leo-the-man-behind-trumps-supreme-court-pick
What a rip-off. Here I've spent decades as an evangelical, awaiting the Dominionist take-over of the United States, and it turns out the Papists are the ones holding all the cards. It's not fair, I tell you. It's just not fair.
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Well, I just heard on the teevee news (so just rumor) that McCain likes Kavanaugh. So it looks like the only thing that could hurt him would be the two or three female Republican senators that have been brought up in the media. It appears that a couple of dems might even vote for him, so that could be a non-issue. Though it will certainly be a razor thin vote, so thanks again Harry Reid! :laugh:
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-secrets-of-leonard-leo-the-man-behind-trumps-supreme-court-pick
What a rip-off. Here I've spent decades as an evangelical, awaiting the Dominionist take-over of the United States, and it turns out the Papists are the ones holding all the cards. It's not fair, I tell you. It's just not fair.
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Well, I just heard on the teevee news (so just rumor) that McCain likes Kavanaugh. So it looks like the only thing that could hurt him would be the two or three female Republican senators that have been brought up in the media. It appears that a couple of dems might even vote for him, so that could be a non-issue. Though it will certainly be a razor thin vote, so thanks again Harry Reid! :laugh:
Is that supposed to make me like the pick more? =)
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Anyone see the wonderful e-mail from Nancy Pelosi to her constituents (and donors) in which she pledges to fight Trump's SC nominee and "avenge" Barak Obama.
Who's stupider?
Her, for thinking that she, as a member of the House of Representatives, thinking that she has a dog in this fight, or
Her constituents who not only believe this but ALSO donate money to her for the fight?
I think all of them are one big collective pack of f*expletive deleted*tards, but that's just me.
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Is that supposed to make me like the pick more? =)
Heh.
It at least should hopefully keep us from worrying about McCain voting "no" because "Trump". :)
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Is it my imagination, or is the "resistance" against Trump's SC pick not nearly as loud and passionate as we were led to believe it would be?
Sure, we're seeing some demonstrations, and pronouncements from libs (like Bernie Sanders) that they're going to stop the nomination in its tracks, but overall it's been very muted.
I wonder if they have started to realize, and come to terms with, the fact that there isn't thing one that they can do to really stop it other than swinging a couple of votes while managing to keep all of their party's people in line (which doesn't look at all likely).
I'm just praying that this alleged "blue wave" falls as flat as Hillary's Coronation did. I think that would go a long way toward breaking the really liberal wing of the Democratic party.
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Heh.
It at least should hopefully keep us from worrying about McCain voting "no" because "Trump". :)
I think the chances of McCain actually heading back to Washington to vote are between slim and none. He's not been in attendance since last December and he's dealing with a glioblastoma, which is about as aggressive a cancer as there is. I've known two people who have died from glioblastomas, and even with aggressive treatment prognosis is NOT good.
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I think one of the key factors in picking Kavanaugh is the belief that he was the easiest candidate to get through the Senate confirmation. I think we will find him to be a relatively centrist conservative.
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A surprisingly un-Trumpy pick, but not a bad one. As much as I dislike Trump, he deserves credit for sticking to the list.
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A surprisingly un-Trumpy pick, but not a bad one. As much as I dislike Trump, he deserves credit for sticking to the list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3r7NwtsnA
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Joss Whedon: "O God O God we're all gonna die!"
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/07/10/dude-seek-help-joss-whedons-freakout-over-kavanaugh-scotus-is-one-for-the-books/
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Is it my imagination, or is the "resistance" against Trump's SC pick not nearly as loud and passionate as we were led to believe it would be?
Sure, we're seeing some demonstrations, and pronouncements from libs (like Bernie Sanders) that they're going to stop the nomination in its tracks, but overall it's been very muted.
I wonder if they have started to realize, and come to terms with, the fact that there isn't thing one that they can do to really stop it other than swinging a couple of votes while managing to keep all of their party's people in line (which doesn't look at all likely).
I'm just praying that this alleged "blue wave" falls as flat as Hillary's Coronation did. I think that would go a long way toward breaking the really liberal wing of the Democratic party.
I get the impression they were all set to start the protest and pulling their hair out and then when Trump made the pick, they realized they hadn't actually don't research on this pick and had no idea what to really say.
Or maybe I have just not been watching the news so I don't know what they are saying. =) It is difficult to maintain controversy and hysteria over everything for very long.
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Next he should just run stalking horses. Give them a big check from his personal stash, let the outrage machine spend millions, nominee quits in a few weeks.
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Next he should just run stalking horses. Give them a big check from his personal stash, let the outrage machine spend millions, nominee quits in a few weeks.
I think W. Bush tried that sort of thing before Roberts was nominated. A woman who worked in the executive branch if I remember.
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White House forces Press Corps to walk past dumpsters and portait of Hillary to hear Trump's SC pick: :laugh:
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/trumps-white-house-delivers-ultimate-troll-to-hillary-before-and-after-scotus-decision/
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White House forces Press Corps to walk past dumpsters and portait of Hillary to hear Trump's SC pick: :laugh:
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/trumps-white-house-delivers-ultimate-troll-to-hillary-before-and-after-scotus-decision/
Best.Timeline.
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I think W. Bush tried that sort of thing before Roberts was nominated. A woman who worked in the executive branch if I remember.
Harriet Myers, IIRC. It was a sorta :facepalm: choice.
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Harriet Myers, IIRC. It was a sorta :facepalm: choice.
Yeah, I remember that one. I read her CV in the Washington Post and just shook my head.
edit in: Just googled her to read up on that whole mess and refresh my memory. I didn't remember that her name was spelled Miers. Odd spelling.
It really kicked off a crapstorm of accusations of cronyism, and I can't say that I disagree. She had never served as a judge, and she certainly didn't win any friends from either side of the aisle with her answers to questions from the Senate: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101902402.html?noredirect=on
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edit in: Just googled her to read up on that whole mess and refresh my memory. I didn't remember that her name was spelled Miers. Odd spelling.
I don't think it's odd at all. =D
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Maybe not for the reprobates who spell it that way... :D
OK, odd to me. I grew up in a rural area where Myers was an EXTREMELY common name... as in, I think there were about 30 separate Myers clans, but all tracing back to a common ancestor (what I'd heard) in the middle 1800s (my guess).
Almost to a person they were nasty and rather stupid, and quite a few of them were involved in illegal activities at some point or another.
One of the boys who was a year or two ahead of me in high school was the major drug connection, allegedly for his Father, who was a major drug player in the county.
A few years after we graduated they went to prison together....
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Around here it they spell it that way we are likely related.
Family name traces back to CT in colonial times and I've followed it down the eastern seaboard, across Appalachia and into the Republic of Texas pre statehood until after the civil war then in to Indian Territory.
Some slight chance Harriet is a distant relative.
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Trump is 6'3". Kavanaugh looks to be an inch or two shorter. Just enough to possibly be 5'11" Ron Paul in a full body costume.
Well, I can dream, can't I?
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Check out the Double Standard (https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/status/1017077465250869248/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1017077465250869248&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailywire.com%2Fnews%2F32935%2Fhuffpo-writer-attacks-team-kavanaugh-showing-hes-hank-berrien) on this broad.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-accuse-trump-of-sexism-for-not-nominating-female-justice-they-promised-to-block/
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Harriet Myers, IIRC. It was a sorta :facepalm: choice.
I got to admit to thinking... would she have killed Obamacare, unlike Roberts? :facepalm:
We actually might have been better off with Myers. We will never know I guess.
I will say I do have one reservation about Kavanaugh. He appears to believe gun owner licensing is OK (though not a ban on semi-automatic rifles or gun registration).
You should not have get a license to exercise a right, especially in your own home. We all know how some states use high fees and paperwork to make it difficult or unpleasant to own a gun.
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The new reason why Racisty McBigotface must be stopped AT ALL COSTS is that he had massive credit card debt for sports tickets. No, really, for serious, that's why. I mean, the guy's worse than Hitler, and a clear sign that we live in a dictatorship, but the CREDIT CARD DEBT! That's what finally got me off the Trump train.
Imagine Elena Kagan had had that problem. Why, it would have meant she understands the experience of middle-class Americans, enslaved by a debt to sick, capitalist overlords. What an example of bravery she'd have been to us all!
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I will say I do have one reservation about Kavanaugh. He appears to believe gun owner licensing is OK (though not a ban on semi-automatic rifles or gun registration).
You should not have get a license to exercise a right, especially in your own home. We all know how some states use high fees and paperwork to make it difficult or unpleasant to own a gun.
Correct. Kavanaugh is NOT a good choice. Better than probably anyone Obama might have named, but not a good choice for the Constitution. I think he's also very weak on the Fourth Amendment.
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Yeah, the more I read his rulings, the more I see another Kennedy....or maybe even a Souter.
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I read an opinion piece by Andrew Napolitano, who is super disappointed in the pick, primarily over the 4th Amendment issues.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/12/judge-andrew-napolitano-why-am-so-deeply-disappointed-by-trumps-supreme-court-pick.html
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A shocking expose:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/politics/supreme-court-justice-minorities-trnd/index.html?utm_content=2018-07-10T02%3A06%3A59&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN
Journalism to the power of i/0
Photo from the author's byline:
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The first thing I noticed was CNN. That tainted the entire article as it slowly devolved into a "diversity" screed. I'm so tired of all of this diversity, inclusion, identifies as, male, female, race, religion, horse crap I could just scream. We are Americans. We have a Constitution and Bill of Rights IE rule of law. All of that other extraneous nonsense is immaterial and designed to divide us and bring us down.
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Obviously, then, what we need as Kennedy's replacement is a trans-gender Inuit/Polynesian/Native American who is in a committed same-sex relationship, a member of a minor religion such as Bahai (or is an atheist), who did NOT attend an Ivy League law school, for whom English is a second (or third, or fourth) language, and who self-identifies as a Martian.
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Obviously, then, what we need as Kennedy's replacement is a trans-gender Inuit/Polynesian/Native American who is in a committed same-sex relationship, a member of a minor religion such as Bahai (or is an atheist), who did NOT attend an Ivy League law school, for whom English is a second (or third, or fourth) language, and who self-identifies as a Martian.
I'm waiting for the moment in Kavanaugh's hearing when he announces that he identifies as a poly-racial, poly-gendered bisexual.
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Maybe I should have known this, but new to me:
Senators never even met with nominees until 1925. Justice Harlan Fiske Stone was the first nominee to appear in person to field questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee ahead of his confirmation to the High Court.
Which evolved into:
“The confirmation process has turned into a political campaign for office,” said Ron Bonjean, former communications director for former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss. “You have judges that have brilliant legal minds. But they are literally running for office for the first time. Having a sherpa or a campaign manager help them through the process is extremely useful.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/21/republicans-democrats-look-to-use-kavanaugh-nomination-as-weapon-in-midterm-fight.html