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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Scout26 on September 13, 2018, 05:48:27 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/13/feinstein-releases-cryptic-statement-about-brett-kavanaugh-nomination-amid-intrigue-over-secret-letter.html
the letter was relayed to lawmakers by an individual affiliated with Stanford University and concerns an incident involving the 53-year-old Kavanaugh and a woman while they were in high school. According to two officials who spoke anonymously with the New York Times, the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Kavanaugh and the woman.
Okay, let's break this down.
So it sounds like we have Anita Hill Part II. The "sexual misconduct" could be anything from rape to consensual heavy petting to merely awkward flirting. He would have been a teenager and in High School after all and in the early 1980's.
However, Feinstein has had this letter since July, so was holding it in reserve in case all other courses of attack failed.
Finally, this is America and he has the right to face his accuser. And the precise allegations made public. Not, "Turn over to the FBI to investigate." This is clearly nothing more then a stalling tactic.
If he's being accused of Rape or actual sexual assault, then he should be charged and withdrawn from consideration to be a USSC Justice.
If we are talking about being an awkward teenager, then who hasn't been one ?? We are trying fill the USSC, not choose the next Messiah.
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I think it is just as likely this is completely made up. Also the FBI isn’t the right Law Enforcement organization to investigate a sexual assault. Either the person who is claiming whatever in this letter goes to the correct jurisdiction and files a formal complaint assuming it’s not past the statute of limitations or this “letter” should be ignored. This is just ridiculous.
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He was in High School, so likely a minor. "Possible sexual misconduct" could mean practically anything. Misconduct could be that he told some girl she had a nice rack, which, though of late it could ruin your life, in that era, was normal banter. Given the "possible" and all the anonymity, it could also be NOT sexual misconduct of any kind.
On the FBI, the story I read said "Federal investigative authorities". That might be the FBI, or it might be somebody in OPM human resources.
This is another one that smells of "set up" to me.
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Gawd a'mighty ! How far will those loonies reach to grasp at straws?
Have you no sense of decency, Ma'am?
Accusations are cheap.
Defense is expensive.
Part of their game plan, of course.
Terry
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Gawd a'mighty ! How far will those loonies reach to grasp at straws?
Have you no sense of decency, Ma'am?
Clearly a rhetorical question :P
There's good news, even if she's returned every election, the woman is 85. This BS will come to an end sooner than later.
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There's good news, even if she's returned every election, the woman is 85. This BS will come to an end sooner than later.
The problem is, she represents Califfornia. Remember, the people waiting in the wings in California think DiFi is too conservative.
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The problem is, she represents Califfornia. Remember, the people waiting in the wings in California think DiFi is too conservative.
I never said it would get better. Just that Feinstein's personal brand of awful wasn't long for the world.
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Here we go:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/13/seriously-so-this-is-what-sen-dianne-feinsteins-secret-brett-kavanaugh-letter-was-about/
As one of the comments said, "This sounds like a bad episode of Happy Days."
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A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room. The Guardian has not verified the apparent claims in the letter. It is not yet clear who wrote it.
How many articles and Op-eds will come out saying being locked alone in a room (and getting out unharmed) as a party prank is just like rape, sexual assault, the first step slaughtering women or, even better, early indication of Kavanaugh's desire to control women?
Alex Griswold
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Oh my god. The actual Kavanaugh allegation turned out to be roughly ten thousands times lamer than I already thought it would be.
View image on Twitter
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Room rhymes with womb so that obviously means the Kavanaugh believes in locking up women's reproductive organs. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out outside of the confines of the state approved Christian marriage and with the permission of the husband of course.
We are this close to the Handmaid's Tale, people! Wake up!
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The problem is, she represents Califfornia. Remember, the people waiting in the wings in California think DiFi is too conservative.
And you replace a senior senator with power with a raving loonie progressive one who is so far out they destroy their political movement. DiFi is far more dangerous, because like her brother emperor palpatine she actually gets things done behind the scenes.
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So he didn't get to see Paradise by the dashboard light ??
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Here we go:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/13/seriously-so-this-is-what-sen-dianne-feinsteins-secret-brett-kavanaugh-letter-was-about/
As one of the comments said, "This sounds like a bad episode of Happy Days."
Brett Kavanaugh was an unarmed teen, who dreamed of going to college.
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That accusation is so pathetic it might actually be true. If they were faking it they would at least make it sound bad.
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That accusation is so pathetic it might actually be true. If they were faking it they would at least make it sound bad.
I'm thinking back to High School parties I went to, and I'm just four years older than him, and what's allegedly in that letter is the kind of prank the bible study group would pull at one of their parties. It wouldn't even rate at a party where alcohol was present.
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The SJW crowd has gone even further off the rails than I thought possible.
It is now receptacle to punish someone for what their parents did before they were born
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/25/nascar-driver-n-word-sponsor/ (http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/25/nascar-driver-n-word-sponsor/)
Anymore all you need is a simple accusation to ruin someone's life and career.
One of these days they are gonna screw over the wrong person and the *expletive deleted*it will get real.
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Yep, the SJW cadre is pushing very hard to make the sins of the family = the sins of the progeny...
Where else has that happened....
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My take is that Feinstein thinks she's come up with a perfect plan. Accuse him of something he did as almost 40 years ago as a young adult, something far enough back that legal verification is difficult because of aging memories, lost/discarded school records, and typically-sealed juvenile court records (presuming any law enforcement involvement at all). She using the "turned it over to the FBI" line with intentional bluster as encouragement for her sycophant followers and box-of-rocks-stupid SJW types to infer the worst without having seen actual evidence. Turn the whole thing into a he said/she said that they can spin and twist ad infinitum without the accused being able to provide substantive rebuttal other than their own words.
*Edit to add*
If we're going to worry about ethics and past infractions, how about something a bit less aged and more directly associated with current government affairs?
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/07/11/sen-feinstein-failed-to-disclose-husbands-facebook-stock-before-zuckerberg-testified-report/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/05/kavanaugh-confirmation-feinstein-illegal-abortion-number/1206409002/
Brad
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^ SOS. Standard Operating Slander.
Accusations are cheap.
Defense is expensive.
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Wouldn't that make Feinstein an unindited coconspirator?
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Now Huffpo is reporting that he and a friend held the woman down and tried to disrobe her and force themselves on her.
Although the alleged incident took place decades ago and the three individuals involved were minors, the woman said that the memory had been a source of ongoing distress for her, and that she had sought psychological treatment as a result.
Uh huh. Well I hope you have notes or billing statements from this therapy because otherwise I'll just assume this is all a fiction or perhaps horseplay mis-remembered as an assault.
And isn't just a little hypocritical to get worked up over this alleged incident but not get worked up over the charges made against Bill Clinton?
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There is nothing, NOTHING, that the Democrats will not do in order to gain and retain power.
Over/under on when they start openly having political opponents killed? I say 3 years. (After Trump is re-elected.)
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Over/under on when they start openly having political opponents killed? I say 3 years. (After Trump is re-elected.)
You're assuming that hasn't already started (*cough* Steve Scalise *cough*)
(Granted, the attempt failed, but still ...)
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There is nothing, NOTHING, that the Democrats will not do in order to gain and retain power.
Over/under on when they start openly having political opponents killed? I say 3 years. (After Trump is re-elected.)
Never happen.
There may, however, be a significant "uptick" in suicides by powerful Republicans and conservatives.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if the letter had been written many months ago, and all Feinstein had to do was wait to see who Trump nominated before filling in the nominee's name.
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Apparently she has had the alleged letter for quite some time. Another report stated that 65 females who knew Kavanaugh in high school provided a signed letter stating that he is a great guy and he never would have done something the alleged accuser said. Kavanaugh went to an all boys school and the women all attended a nearby girls school and they all socialized at that time.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if the letter had been written many months ago, and all Feinstein had to do was wait to see who Trump nominated before filling in the nominee's name.
The latest breaking news is that she's had the letter for at least a couple of months.
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Now a prof in California is claiming to have written the letter. Says Kavanaugh groped her.
And we have to believe her because Hillary sez so. ;/
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I never said it would get better. Just that Feinstein's personal brand of awful wasn't long for the world.
DiFi is running against this clown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0
He makes Kamala Harris look like a genius.. So yes, on the 2A front is probably will get worse, with this Jackwagon trying to ban all guns (or what he can get banned) all while bucking for President.
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There is nothing, NOTHING, that the Democrats will not do in order to gain and retain power.
Over/under on when they start openly having political opponents killed? I say 3 years. (After Trump is re-elected.)
We have already seen that outside politics the criminals move up to bigger crimes when you don't prosecute them for the lesser crimes. I imagine that applies to political criminals (redundant?) also.
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The anonymous accuser is not anonymous any longer:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/406938-allegations-throw-kavanaugh-confirmation-into-turmoil
Anita Hiil redux ...
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I really hope they still put him up for a vote before the election. Make both parties stand by their vote.
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This week will be LAF.
Too bad I will be busy and have to absorb it all late in the day.
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She claims she was afraid he was going to kill her, and that the incident put her "five years behind her life plans". Perhaps there is something to her story, and she should be heard now that she has come out from anonymous land.
On the other hand, she is a democratic activist and she chose right now to come out with a story about what happened between two minors over thirty years ago - not at any other time in the last thirty years, but right now.
Anytime something is timed so precisely, I become suspicious.
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She is a liar and deserves public mockery and scorn.
No reason to be civil or nice to her.
I’m done with giving the benefit of the doubt unless there is proof it was pursued as a crime at the time.
Democrat activists are delusional liars with little hold on reality.
ZFG
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From Sean Spicier on Twitter:
"Democrats will next inspect every mattress Judge Kavanaugh has ever owned to ensure the tags are still attached."
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I’m done with giving the benefit of the doubt unless there is proof it was pursued as a crime at the time.
I will say any kind of proof, period. How many male college students were railroaded over the last ten years with made up rape charges?
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What proof can there possibly be thirty-plus years after the fact? If it wasn't important enoough to report it as a crime when it happened, it certainly isn't anything important enough to waste the government's time on now, when any statute of limitations has long since expired. This is purely a political hatchet job and should be treated as such.
And I don't even think Kavanaugh was the right person to nominate for the position, but I'm now forced to favor his confirmation for the simple reason that the democrats obviously hate and fear him.
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I guess it falls to me to point out that it's possible she's telling the truth. We all know victims of sex crimes often fail to report, due to feelings of shame and embarrassment.
It's equally clear we can't take her seriously, without something to back her up. Her accusation is far too convenient, under the circumstances. Kavanaugh for SCOTUS.
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I read she first rolled out the accusation in couples therapy in 2012 … she didn't name names at that time presumably because she was considering using the accusation against Romney if needed. Not needed to derail Romney so she kept it to use at a later date …. The student reviews of her as a professor are not good …
[popcorn]
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/09/professor_accusing_kavanaugh_is_radical_sjw_with_some_damning_student_reviews.html
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The Dems are, predictably, screeching bloody murder that they want the process "halted" so this can be "investigated."
Question is, what investigation?
There were only 3 (supposedly) people involved.
The woman says it happened, the two men say BS it never happened.
Classic he said/she said.
And according to the wife of the unindicted presidential rapist, she MUST be believed (because she's not accusing Bill).
This is just too convenient. Way too convenient. And just reeks of desperation from the left.
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When Kavanaugh's mother was a judge she ruled against the accuser's parents in 1996 … :old:
https://archive.fo/69gvf
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It is a damn shame, but none of it matters at this point. Kavanaugh should withdraw his nomination as he has less than a snowball's chance in hell of being confirmed. Enough spineless Republicans have already jumped ship, so there are no longer enough votes.
RINOs also believe it's the seriousness of the allegations, not the facts that matter.
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When Franken resigned people were thrilled but it was pretty clear what was going on.
But Democrats can also credibly demand an investigation into the allegations against Kavanaugh because, when it comes to sexual harassment, they have earned the moral high ground. They earned it with Franken. Yes, Kavanaugh’s alleged incident occurred while he was in high school. But, if true, it’s worse than anything Franken is alleged to have done—and Democrats ditched him without even the benefit of a hearing. When it comes to Kavanaugh, Democrats may be opportunists, but they’re not hypocrites.
Will this be enough to stop Kavanaugh’s confirmation? Maybe not—since I suspect that at this point Republicans would suffer more from ditching Kavanaugh than sticking by him. After all, the party has already stuck by Trump, Roy Moore and Jim Jordan. At this point, Republicans have already lost the anti-sexual-assault voter. Their best hope in the midterms is to motivate their base, which includes a lot of anti-anti-sexual assault voters. According to a 2015 Public Religion Research Institute poll, more Republicans think, “there is a lot of discrimination” against white men than think “there is a lot of discrimination” against women. Some of those rank-and-file Republicans will feel betrayed if GOP senators turn their backs on Kavanaugh.
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But Democrats can also credibly demand an investigation into the allegations against Kavanaugh because, when it comes to sexual harassment, they have earned the moral high ground.
:rofl:
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If we are going to go back and dig up every piece of dirt on someone (nominated by an R president), then no one will ever be "pure" enough to pass.
In fact, if this Anita Hill Part 2 tactic works, the D's will use it against every future nominee.
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The Left/Democrats are waging war against half the country.
There are no rules that govern their conduct other than what can they get away with.
The country is lost unless the right takes up the challenge and wages war themselves.
Give no quarter.
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What can the APS attorneys tell us regarding both of them being minors?
I also just saw a story where they quoted her therapist's notes that said there were four guys involved.
The therapist's contemporaneous notes, provided to The Post, reportedly confirmed that Ford maintained she had been attacked by four individuals "from an elitist boys’ school" who are now "highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington." The therapist, Ford said, had confused the number of people involved in the alleged attack with the total number of people in the house.
Ford, a 51-year-old registered Democrat who has published in academic journals and has trained students in clinical psychology, described the alleged incident in The Washington Post on Sunday, saying it occurred during a summer day in the 1980s at a Maryland house where teens had gathered. Ford claimed she headed upstairs to a bathroom when she was suddenly pushed onto a bed, as rock-and-roll music blared.
However, Ford told The Post she did not recall exactly who owned the house, how she came to be at the house, or how the gathering was arranged. She remembered only that the house was in Montgomery County, near a country club, and that parents were not present.
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Was Haven Monahan one of the culprits in this caper also?
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I guess it falls to me to point out that it's possible she's telling the truth. We all know victims of sex crimes often fail to report, due to feelings of shame and embarrassment.
It's equally clear we can't take her seriously, without something to back her up. Her accusation is far too convenient, under the circumstances. Kavanaugh for SCOTUS.
According to the "victim," her attacker was drunk. According to Cavanough's college friends, he didn't drink at that time. People present in the house the victim was say it didn't happen. Other women Cavanough has worked with vouch for his character,
The woman sought counseling in 2012 .... but the therapist says no names were mentioned.
Stipulating that the woman was attacked, ok, maybe the attack did happen --- but I do not believe it was done by Judge Cavanough.
I also believe she KNOWS this, and has deliberately inserted the nominee's name for her political goal; thwarting Trump.
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There is zero reason to believe Kavanaugh is anything but innocent.
The right play is to shame the Left for using such a crass obvious ploy to appeal to women’s and white knights emotions.
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There is zero reason to believe Kavanaugh is anything but innocent.
The right play is to shame the Left for using such a crass obvious ploy to appeal to women’s and white knights emotions.
And to vote in Kavanaugh, on schedule. And to have accusers come forward against every Democratic senator, and the lefties at SCOTUS. In fact, RBG felt me up at a high school party in '92. She was an older woman, and a judge. I felt so powerless. I knew no one would believe me...
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/09/report-kavanaughs-mother-ruled-against-accusers-parents.php?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=sw&utm_campaign=sw
REPORT: KAVANAUGH’S MOTHER RULED AGAINST ACCUSER’S PARENTS
It looks like Brett Kavanaugh’s mother, Judge Martha Kavanaugh, ruled against the parents of Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who accuses Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault. Court documents show the losing party in a foreclosure case Martha Kavanaugh heard to be Ralph and Paula Blasey of Potomac, Maryland. They appear to be Christine Blasey Ford’s parents.
It appears there is more history between her and Kavanaugh.
Also, I have heard she is a leftist activist and an anti-Trump activist. There are lots of reasons to discount this story as false and few if any reasons to take it seriously.
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The student reviews of her as a professor are not good …
An earlier version of this article confused two different California professors named Christine Ford and featured student evaluations of the other Professor Christine Ford. American Thinker apologizes to Professor Christine Ford and to readers for the error.
This is gonna be an exceptionally stupid week.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-internet-predictably-turns-into-a-god-awful-fever-swamp-following-the-kavanaugh-bombshell
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What can the APS attorneys tell us regarding both of them being minors?
I also just saw a story where they quoted her therapist's notes that said there were four guys involved.
Then her story is changing.
The original story was two boys. Now it's four?
As details come out, at least one version says it was a "party" attended by four boys and [now, suddenly] two girls. One girl or two, what kind of respectable young lady (age 15) attends a "party" with four teen-aged hormone factories, where there is alcohol present in quantity? If there were two girls there? IMHO that only means there were two tramps present rather than one.
The original story was that there were four boys at the party, but only two with her in the "locked" room. Now the story is that all four boys attacked her? Gee -- the other girl must have felt awfully left-out and unattractive.
Having had some association with girls from "elite" prep schools when I was in my teens, it wouldn't surprise me if it eventually came out that she invited the "attack," and then got grossed out because he was too drunk to perform.
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there were two tramps present rather than one.
she invited the "attack,"
:O oooooh boy! It's getting there already.
I think if I was Kavanaugh I would stick with the "she's lying/confused/misremembering" line of defense.
"That little hussy was just asking for it" probably isn't gonna fly anymore.
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There is no way this ends satisfactorily for anyone.
Those opposed to Kavanaugh will never believe any protestations of innocence.
Those for him will never believe any unverified claims of misconduct
After 35 years there is next to zero chance of any useful evidence that they were even in the same house.
I read on Yahoo News that both the judge and the professor will be testifying next Monday, but again, both sides are to entrenched for mere testimony to make any real difference. And so a shitshow commences.
Here's your binary solution set: He gets confirmed, and a bunch of people complain about Rapists On The Court!! every time he signs a decision, forever, or he doesn't get confirmed and a bunch of people complain about lying "tramps" on every confirmation hearing, forever.
It would be funny, except those 500 or so idiots can and do get people killed.
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:O oooooh boy! It's getting there already.
I think if I was Kavanaugh I would stick with the "she's lying/confused/misremembering" line of defense.
"That little hussy was just asking for it" probably isn't gonna fly anymore.
If it is true it should be spoken.
I have no insight into what if anything happened that night but to me it doesn’t matter. The time to deal with it passed long ago.
This is an obvious political mugging so she loses all credibility due to the political nature.
She may have been a pure virgin who had her honor violated as a teen but she is now a political whore.
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It is entirely a political move by Feinstein regardless of what is said. The statute of limitations on a crime is long past. This allegedly happened 36 years ago when Kavanaugh was 17. The girl was 15. Both were not of legal age. I believe both were drinking at a party. Kavanaugh has denied it and it is one word against another. What's true? No idea.
Can you guess what this college professor's political leanings are? I hope that question is asked as well as if she was paid by an outside party to write this letter.
The point of the whole affair other to stall and potentially embarrass Kavanaugh into dropping out of contention, but to affect only a couple Republican Senator votes (like Collins from Maine). This will result in getting an insufficient number of votes to approve him. I still think a few Democrats may vote in favor of his appointment, but we'll see. The vote in the committee is scheduled for Wednesday unless it's rescheduled. It will be right down party lines and the Democrats in the Judiciary Committee were never going to vote in favor regardless of his worthiness for the Supreme Court.
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The shitty thing is that this will give the "never Trump" republicrats an "excuse" to vote against him.
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The timing was to prevent another nomination before midterms. Show the letter in July, too much time on the clock to hand the ball over. Hope it backfires royally and drives Trump turnout.
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If Republicans won't stand up against something like this, it will be one more, "That's why you got Trump," "but he fights" moment.
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:O oooooh boy! It's getting there already.
I think if I was Kavanaugh I would stick with the "she's lying/confused/misremembering" line of defense.
"That little hussy was just asking for it" probably isn't gonna fly anymore.
I was not suggesting that Kavanaugh should use that as his defense. This is my opinion, expressed among people who are not involved in the confirmation process.
Kavanaugh has said at least once that he wasn't even at the [alleged] party. I hope that's true and that he sticks to it. Having said that, if it comes out that he was there -- he's toast, and should be toast.
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I was not suggesting that Kavanaugh should use that as his defense. This is my opinion, expressed among people who are not involved in the confirmation process.
Kavanaugh has said at least once that he wasn't even at the [alleged] party. I hope that's true and that he sticks to it. Having said that, if it comes out that he was there -- he's toast, and should be toast.
Why the latter? He could easily be mistaken about that. Hasn't the accuser expressed confusion about where it was, or what year it was?
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And the other person (male) named as being there/involved has also denied that it happened.
Again, if the R's flake out (see what I did there), no republican nominee for any position, especially the USSC, will ever be confirmed again, because the D's will trot out some woman who will claim that Nominee X kissed her, without her consent, on the school bus back in 2nd grade.
We know what Borking is, we may learn what Kavanaughing is, if a couple of R's show they have no spine.
*Clarence Thomas to the Courtesy Phone. Paging Clarence Thomas to the Courtesy Phone, Please.*
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1. The Democrats refuse to join in inviting Kavanaugh and Ford to hearings in front of the Judiciary committee.
I so hope the D's pull a "Russian Ambassador to the UN at that start of the Korean War"* stunt.
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2018/09/17/they-refused-looks-like-the-dems-arent-really-that-interested-in-the-truth-about-brett-kavanaugh/
2. DiFi slams Republican response to Kavanaugh accusations trips over herself.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/18/thud-dianne-feinstein-rushes-to-slam-gop-response-to-kavanaugh-allegations-trips-over-herself/
* The Soviet (Russian) ambassador to the UN walked out when the UN began debating what to do over Nork aggression in June 1950. Since he wasn't there to veto the resolution the UN voted to help the RoK defend themselves. Hence, many UN member nations supplied troops to help fight on US/UN side. Since then, Soviet/Russian Ambassadors to the UN are pretty much bolted into their seats.
Although there is some validity to the idea that Stalin did it on purpose.
https://medium.com/@giant_cheng/why-the-ussr-didnt-veto-the-un-coaliation-against-the-north-korea-in-1950-98263f4c3e3d
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There is no way this ends satisfactorily for anyone.
Those opposed to Kavanaugh will never believe any protestations of innocence.
Those for him will never believe any unverified claims of misconduct
After 35 years there is next to zero chance of any useful evidence that they were even in the same house.
I read on Yahoo News that both the judge and the professor will be testifying next Monday, but again, both sides are to entrenched for mere testimony to make any real difference. And so a shitshow commences.
Here's your binary solution set: He gets confirmed, and a bunch of people complain about Rapists On The Court!! every time he signs a decision, forever, or he doesn't get confirmed and a bunch of people complain about lying "tramps" on every confirmation hearing, forever.
It would be funny, except those 500 or so idiots can and do get people killed.
The problem with the binary set is that the Democrats could have trotted out someone who accused him of being a serial killer and many on the left would believe it. And the media would run with it as if the accusation had to be treated "seriously". IMO, there is nothing these people won't do to win (and I mean that seriously).
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This is honestly the most disgusting thing I have ever witnessed in my lifetime in politics.
And, of course the Republicans are rewarding these evil people by giving them exactly what they want and delaying the vote.
Which means it works and the Democrats will do this OVER and OVER and OVER again. Because there are never any consequences to these slimy, hell-spawned, mendacious, power-hungry, grandstanding, cowardly, oleaginous, muck-raking, obstreperous, blood-sucking, back-stabbing, barbarous bastards.
This is Clarence Thomas all over again. Make sure that your opponents know that you will do ANYTHING to stop them.
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Feinstein tried to rape me years ago. I don't recal the exact date or location but I still harbor emotional scars from her attack on me. I repressed the awful memory for years but now I remember it clearly.
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Feinstein tried to rape me years ago. I don't recal the exact date or location but I still harbor emotional scars from her attack on me. I repressed the awful memory for years but now I remember it clearly.
I don't believe you, but only because I am pro-rape. Also, I eat small children. Come to think of it, I also eat big children.
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It will be painful living through the Dems going through this same type of theatre over the next 2 or 3 SCJ’s that Trump will be replacing.
Once the Trump court is in place it will be interesting to see whether the left will submit to the rule of law or go full civil war II.
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It will be painful living through the Dems going through this same type of theatre over the next 2 or 3 SCJ’s that Trump will be replacing.
Thank you for these happy thoughts.
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One thing the Dems seem to always forget, eventually they will be on the other side of the fence and the Republicans will use their own rules and shenanigans against them, like the Dems are now doing to the Rs. You would think Harry Reid would be fresh enough in their memory they could remember the basic stuff.
bob
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One thing the Dems seem to always forget, eventually they will be on the other side of the fence and the Republicans will use their own rules and shenanigans against them, like the Dems are now doing to the Rs. You would think Harry Reid would be fresh enough in their memory they could remember the basic stuff.
bob
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The Democrats have been pulling this kind of crap (not to this degree, but of a kind with it) for 30+ years. The Republicans.... held the line and didn't vote for ONE Supreme Court Justice.
The Democrats rightly have no fear that this will be turned back on them because the Republicans are too "civilized" to do that.
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Let's see.
First it was Kavanaugh and one other guy.
Then it was four guys.
Then it was four guys and another girl.
She can't recall when it happened (not even narrow it down to what YEAR it happened).
She doesn't know where (Address or even who's house is allegedly occurred at.)
Yeah, this is TOTALLY a legitimate accusation.
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Let's see.
First it was Kavanaugh and one other guy.
Then it was four guys.
Then it was four guys and another girl.
She can't recall when it happened (not even narrow it down to what YEAR it happened).
She doesn't know where (Address or even who's house is allegedly occurred at.)
Yeah, this is TOTALLY a legitimate accusation.
BUT, it's a serious allegation (against a Republican) so we have to take into account the seriousness of the crime! (when it's about a Republican.)
When it's a Democrat, she's a trailer-park lying whore who lies.
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To quote me, from elsewhere on these nets:
It’s possible someone assaulted Ms. Ford. It may even have been Judge Kavanaugh. For all we know, he may have raped her, sang her some show tunes, and left her, stark naked, in a public park.
But we have no business believing Kavanaugh did any of this. The evidence is thin, and the partisanship is thicker than Googly-eyes Cortez.
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(https://i.imgur.com/sRZQGxj.jpg)
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Ok. To be perfectly honest at this point I’m actually starting to think if you make allegations like this and offer no proof/evidence you should be legally liable. I get that women especially in the past and even now may feel uncomfortable or afraid to come forward or report such things, but at the same time we can’t have people making accusations against people with no proof about these kinds of things either.
It’s one thing to report in a timely manner and not have enough evidence to support a conviction in court, it’s anothe to do this 30+ years after the fact when there is no way to know one way or another what may or may not have happened or indeed if the whole thing is made up, mistaken identity, etc. and ruin someone’s reputation. Chances are that if he was really a sexual predator we would already have heard from many other women as has happened with others like Cosby, Weinstein, etc.
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Well, now there's this:
Feinstein, who has vouched for Ford's credibility, also admitted she could not verify that Ford's allegations were entirely true.
Ford and her attorney have apparently gone to ground, which regarding the MSM is understandable, however they are apparently also ignoring the Senate, who are attempting to get them to come in to testify.
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I'd like to think that victimized women can come forward and seek justice whenever they find the courage. I think it's important to hold people who abuse others accountable.
I'm more than a little suspicious because it's only this one lady from 35 years ago. My experience with men that go hands on with women is that if they get away with it, they don't stop.
I also have a little voice in the back of my head every time I read a story like this that whispers: "Duke Lacrosse Team"
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OK, I'm going to go out on a rant limb here. The women's lib/feminist movement in the US has been going on now for how many years? Well the modern version of it gained steam around 1968. That's 50 years ago. Well before the alleged accusation occurred. Many women have been very loudly exclaiming that women are equal in all ways as men and such should be on equal footing in all ways. Waiting 30 or 40 years to report this alleged attack is inexcusable and goes against the dogma of the feminist movement. This woman is reported to be a hard core feminist as is her attorney. Those backing her are of the same ilk. So equality only counts when one wants it to count, but then fall back on the "poor, weak female" who is afraid to report being molested? Did she not have a concerned, loving father she could confide in? Or was she raised in a one parent family who dealt her out to a private girl's school because she was baggage to the Yuppie generation? Inquiring minds want to know.
In fact, I'll go further out on the limb. In my view the feminist movement in some ways has made for a coarsening of our culture, demeaned women (as well as men) in many ways, and has not had much in the way of positive outcomes...other than probably opening up the workplace. Even that is questionable when it comes to women being convinced that having a career to be fulfilled has turned into a tragic myth. It led to the inflation in the 70's and beyond (law of supply and demand) as well as the breakdown of the family unit which has been incredibly negative. I could say more but won't. Being 75 years old and paying attention while moving down the road of life can be incredibly illuminating and contra to the "conventional wisdom".
End of rant.
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Feminism strikes me as tribal warfare.
They didn’t and don’t want equality under the old rules.
They want to rule society by setting up new rules that favor womens concerns over men.
A lot of their goals have been met but they aren’t done yet.
It’s not a conspiracy, it’s human nature.
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Ok. To be perfectly honest at this point I’m actually starting to think if you make allegations like this and offer no proof/evidence you should be legally liable. I get that women especially in the past and even now may feel uncomfortable or afraid to come forward or report such things, but at the same time we can’t have people making accusations against people with no proof about these kinds of things either.
It’s one thing to report in a timely manner and not have enough evidence to support a conviction in court, it’s anothe to do this 30+ years after the fact when there is no way to know one way or another what may or may not have happened or indeed if the whole thing is made up, mistaken identity, etc. and ruin someone’s reputation. Chances are that if he was really a sexual predator we would already have heard from many other women as has happened with others like Cosby, Weinstein, etc.
Thing is, the examples you cited, were women coming out against men with power/prestige/money. When this case supposedly happened, I doubt that Kavanaugh had those things to hide behind
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Thing is, the examples you cited, were women coming out against men with power/prestige/money. When this case supposedly happened, I doubt that Kavanaugh had those things to hide behind
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Strings, you unfortunate naif, he had white, cismale privilege.
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Well, now there's this:
Ford and her attorney have apparently gone to ground, which regarding the MSM is understandable, however they are apparently also ignoring the Senate, who are attempting to get them to come in to testify.
Because if she shows up to testify, that doesn't delay the confirmation vote until after the mid-term elections. And that's the plan -- delay, delay, delay.
She also claims that she shouldn't have to provide any proof of her accusation, that it's up to the FBI to do that. Well, first of all, the alleged "crime} isn't a federal offense, so it's not the FBI's job to investigate it. It was a state crime at the time it allegedly happened, but since the statute of limitations has long since expired he can't be prosecuted, so why should any public resources be expended on investigating an incident that absolutely, positively cannot be proven or disproven? If she didn't want to report it at the time, then tough nougies.
And I still want to know why she didn't want to tell her parents. That doesn't make sense.
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Because if she shows up to testify, that doesn't delay the confirmation vote until after the mid-term elections. And that's the plan -- delay, delay, delay.
She also claims that she shouldn't have to provide any proof of her accusation, that it's up to the FBI to do that. Well, first of all, the alleged "crime} isn't a federal offense, so it's not the FBI's job to investigate it. It was a state crime at the time it allegedly happened, but since the statute of limitations has long since expired he can't be prosecuted, so why should any public resources be expended on investigating an incident that absolutely, positively cannot be proven or disproven? If she didn't want to report it at the time, then tough nougies.
And I still want to know why she didn't want to tell her parents. That doesn't make sense.
Quite literally every woman on my wife's maternal side has been sexually abused (everything from groping to systemic rape). When my wife's aunt told her mom that the step-dad had molested her the mom blamed the her for her own abuse. When my wife was molested by her grandfather she told her aunt (her dad's sister, so the daughter of the molester). Her aunt refused to tell anyone else, let alone call the cops, and just tried to bury it. When another of my wife's aunts found out her daughters had been raped by her husband she told them to "just get over it" and never even tried to sympathize with them.
Now, I'm not saying Ms Ford's parents were like that. But I can well understand why a 15 year old girl might be reticent to tell her parents about being assaulted.
All that said, I still have very serious doubts that Ms Ford was assaulted as described by Kavanaugh. She might well have been assaulted in that manner by someone else. She might be fabricating the whole story. At the end of the day we will never know with anything like certainty what the truth is.
And so, Kavanaugh should be confirmed immediately after the hearing on Monday. And if there was any real justice in this world, all the D's that participated in this whole sordid mess would be tarred, feathered, and run out town on a rail.
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There's nothing to investigate. She says [something] happened. Kavanaugh and the other "boy" says it didn't. She can't provide a date, nor location, nor other potential witnesses. Kavanaugh has not been accused of similar behavior by anyone else. As pointed out, abusers are not one and done, they tend to be repeat/serial offenders.
If she refuses to testify, then we now it's fake. Simply designed as a delaying tactic. If she does, then it will be interesting.
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Interesting: A classmate of Ford's says this incident was talked about for days at school after it happened, yet Ford said no one knew about it until 2012.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/19/woman-claimed-in-now-deleted-tweet-to-have-gone-to-school-with-christine-blasey-ford-and-said-the-incident-was-spoken-about-for-days-in-school/
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Any day now the existence of an incriminating cell phone video will be announced.
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Any day now the existence of an incriminating cell phone video will be announced.
=D
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I find it very interesting that now Ms. Ford is not willing to testify to the committee until *after* the FBI "investigates". In my opinion, I'm thinking she doesn't want to say anything on the record that the FBI could later discredit/show false. I also firmly believe that if this were allowed to happen, she would absolutely get a copy of the FBI report before its release so she could make sure that her story matches what the FBI found (if anything).
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She is a liar and shouldn’t even have been given the opportunity to speak to congress.
If you want this insanity to stop then stop rewarding the insanity.
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She is a liar and shouldn’t even have been given the opportunity to speak to congress.
If you want this insanity to stop then stop rewarding the insanity
But insanity is normal. It's just another way of labeling people so they can be discriminated against. :facepalm: [popcorn]
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/18/feinstein-on-kavanaugh-accuser-i-dont-know-if-shes-being-truthful-n2520256 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/18/feinstein-on-kavanaugh-accuser-i-dont-know-if-shes-being-truthful-n2520256)
I Can't Say That Everything Is Truthful
That's all I really need to know.
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Interesting: A classmate of Ford's says this incident was talked about for days at school after it happened, yet Ford said no one knew about it until 2012.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/19/woman-claimed-in-now-deleted-tweet-to-have-gone-to-school-with-christine-blasey-ford-and-said-the-incident-was-spoken-about-for-days-in-school/
Interesting, indeed. A couple of the comments seem to get it:
old and busted: nobody knew. we don't even know where or when it happened.
new hotness: everybody knew exactly what happened and we all talked about it.
7:36 AM - Sep 19, 2018
Who talked about it? Ms. Ford told the Washington Post she told nobody at the time. https://twitter.com/reinabori/status/1042048795788365824 …
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Maybe Gorsuch was the other guy? Rumors are abound that she sent the same accusatory letter about Gorsuch to Feinstein...
https://theblacksphere.net/2018/09/did-kavanaugh-accuser-send-same-letter-about-gorsuch/
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Any day now the existence of an incriminating cell phone video will be announced.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Pretty sharp there, RoadKingLarry.
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She can't remember important details. Why should anyone believe that this even occurred. I have serious doubts that this even happened involving young Brett Kavanaugh. The Judiciary Committee has bent over backwards to get her full story in full to the committee.... she wants to wait until there is a FBI investigation.... but there was no crime and certainly not one that the FBI would be involved in normally even if the statute of limitations has not expired on the alleged crime. I think Ford doesn't want to come before the Committee because she will be under oath.
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Maybe Gorsuch was the other guy? Rumors are abound that she sent the same accusatory letter about Gorsuch to Feinstein...
https://theblacksphere.net/2018/09/did-kavanaugh-accuser-send-same-letter-about-gorsuch/
LOL Now that sounds like something the FBI should look into.
I'll have to add "be accused of ancient sexual assault" to my list of conservative aspirations. Right up there with, "be accused of racism." They can't prove it, and you can never disprove it.
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Does the professor victim lady say if she partied with the Duke lacrosse team yet?
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I was willing, at first, to take the charge seriously and listen to her testimony. Now, my bullshit meter is in the red...
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Okay, she says that she wants the FBI to investigate before she testifies, so Trump throws down the gauntlet. Pretty much daring her to testify on Monday.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-brett-kavanaugh-treated-tough/story?id=57932186
ANd it looks like the R Senators agree with calling bullshit on her:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-senators-ford-show-monday-vote-kavanaugh/story?id=57942103
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CNN is stretching ... And it still comes down to she says, they say no way:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/politics/pj-smyth-brett-kavanaugh/index.html
Patrick J. Smyth attended Georgetown Prep -- an all-boys school in North Bethesda, Maryland -- alongside Kavanaugh. Both men graduated in 1983. Smyth signed a letter this summer, before the allegations against Kavanaugh were made public, testifying that Kavanaugh "is singularly qualified to be an Associate Justice on the U.S. Supreme Court," along with dozen other of the school's alumni.
Eric Bruce, who is representing Smyth, authored a letter to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the top Democrat on the committee. CNN has obtained a copy of the letter, which includes a quote from Smyth denying seeing any "improper conduct" from Kavanaugh.
"I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth says in his statement to the Senate Judiciary Committee. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh."
Another friend and classmate of Kavanaugh's, Mark Judge, has been named as the other person who was in the room when the alleged incident took place. Judge has also denied the incident happened.
On Tuesday, Ford's attorneys argued in a letter to Grassley that the FBI should investigate the incident before senators hold a hearing on the allegations, which is scheduled for Monday.
Ford's attorney Lisa Banks said Tuesday on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" following the release of Ford's letter that Ford will talk with the committee but that she's not prepared for a hearing that soon.
"She will talk with the committee," Banks said. "She is not prepared to talk with them at a hearing on Monday. This just came out 48 hours ago."
No, this did NOT just come out 48 hours ago. This came out when Dr. Ford wrote a letter to Senator Feinstein in July.
There is nothing here for the FBI to investigate. Lady, you had your chance to report the [alleged] incident and have it investigated by the appropriate authorities 36 years go. You chose not to report it. Live with it.
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How many actual, legitimate rapes have occurred in the past 36 years? Or been alleged? If the FBI investigates the current allegations, they will need to investigate them all. After that, they can start on all the murder and aggravated assault allegations.
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And I now need a new BS detector: this whole thing just made mine blow up
Anybody have a used one they can part with?
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And I now need a new BS detector: this whole thing just made mine blow up
Anybody have a used one they can part with?
Cody Wilson left one in Austin. It might need a little calibration on ages.....
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Chuck Grassley's letter to Feinstein:
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-09-19%20Grassley%20to%20Feinstein%20-%20Original%20Ford%20Letter.pdf
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Oh, also this:
The attorney for Kavanaugh’s accuser says that having the accuser testify under oath at a Senate Judiciary Comittee hearing would be “contrary to the Committee discovering the truth.” https://t.co/LGeYePwTBE
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 19, 2018
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Chuck Grassley's letter to Feinstein:
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-09-19%20Grassley%20to%20Feinstein%20-%20Original%20Ford%20Letter.pdf
Here's the gist of it:
United States Senate
COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
WASHINGTON, DC 20510- 6275
September 19, 2018
The Honorable Dianne Feinstein
Ranking Member, United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary
331 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator Feinstein:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o-gDOAT8qC4/WU04QqdemfI/AAAAAAAA4y4/wcL01wnwMdwaydptK3ix8XVEYB9DfzAKgCLcBGAs/s320/batman%2Btv%2B%25281%2529.jpg) ,
(https://melbournechapter.net/images/boom-clipart-comic-strip-8.png)
Sincerely,
Chuck Grassley
Chairman
:rofl:
Terry, 230RN
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So the accuser won't talk to the Senate, and the Judiciary Committee doesn't even have a copy of the letter. How are they still giving this the time of day?
Drop it. End it. Put Justice Kavanaugh on the Court already.
And this. This is just - it's just too much. :facepalm:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/19/get-a-hammer-you-jackass-lawrence-odonnell-is-flat-out-lying-about-kavanaugh-ford/
Oh, crud, here's another one.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/19/christine-blasey-fords-celebrity-sisters-team-up-against-brett-kavanaugh-and-its-just-too-damn-much-video/
"Trauma-informed"? That is not a thing. Who made these broads experts in "trauma"? :facepalm: :facepalm:
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If she won't testify before the Senate her *expletive deleted*ing interview with the Washington Post should be read into the record as her "testimony."
I'm now 100% convinced that this is an engineered desperation ploy by the Democrats to hold up the nomination until after the mid-terms.
She has said that she never told anyone about what happened, and that only Kavenaugh and this other guy were in the room. Just what in the *expletive deleted*ck would the FBI do to "investigate?"
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If this was Obama's nomination, how would you view it? I would view it the same and I think the majority of the American people would do so as well. It stinks and the smell is getting worse.
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If this was Obama's nomination, how would you view it? I would view it the same and I think the majority of the American people would do so as well. It stinks and the smell is getting worse.
A good article on that same track: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-assault-allegations-evaluating-credibility/
and another refuting Prager's take that the truth doesn't matter:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-dennis-prager-comments-wrong/
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A bit of background on Crissy Blasey …. long but interesting and there are pictures … [popcorn]
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD AND THE DRUNKEN WHITE PRIVILEGED RACIST PLAYGIRLS OF HOLTON-ARMS.
And it would be an accurate headline. That’s why the yearbooks have been scrubbed. They are a testament to the incredible power these girls had over their teachers, parents and the boys of Georgetown Prep, Landon and other schools in the area. In the pages below, you will see multiple photos and references to binge drinking and the accompanying joy of not being able to remember any of it.
https://cultofthe1st.blogspot.com/2018/09/why-christine-blasey-fords-high-school_19.html?m=1
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A bit of background on Crissy Blasey …. long but interesting and there are pictures … [popcorn]
https://cultofthe1st.blogspot.com/2018/09/why-christine-blasey-fords-high-school_19.html?m=1
Told ya ...
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A couple of (to me) interesting points from the link:
1) They are fast losing their liberal base on this. Cokie Roberts reporting.
2) Cokie makes an interesting point: Trump's twitter fingers have been surprisingly restrained here. Either he knows, or he has five people holding him down, that this is the time to let dems shoot themselves in their collective feet. His tweets so far, from what I have seen, have actually been pretty "presidential" and unbiased. I think that is making the White House look remarkably good here.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/20/siren-cokie-roberts-praises-white-house-slams-dems-over-handling-of-christine-blasey-ford/
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Oh sweet Jeebus...
I'm pretty sure that I know one of the women pictured in that yearbook... Not 100% sure, but I know she went to Holton Arms at that time and that picture certainly looks like it could be her...
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Oh sweet Jeebus...
I'm pretty sure that I know one of the women pictured in that yearbook... Not 100% sure, but I know she went to Holton Arms at that time and that picture certainly looks like it could be her...
When can we expect you to be accused?
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Good article on this from, of all sources, the New York Post:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/19/the-drive-to-sink-kavanaugh-is-liberal-totalitarianism/
Major point (IMHO):
But no. Senate Dems have settled on the ugliest means available, even by the standards of the body that added the verb “Borking” to our political vocabulary. The question is: Why have Republican high-court nominations brought out the worst from the left, going back to the Ronald Reagan era?
The short answer is that liberals fear their major cultural victories of the past half-century are democratically illegitimate. Not a single one was won at the ballot box, going back to the Supreme Court’s 1965 Griswold decision, which recognized a constitutional right to contraceptives. From abortion to gay marriage, plus a host of less titillating issues, modern liberalism has lived by the Court. And liberals fear their cause will die by the Court.
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Does the professor victim lady say if she partied with the Duke lacrosse team yet?
Why did I initially read this as, "Does the professional victim lady..."?
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I don't keep up on "celebrities", so maybe it's understandable that I don't recognize any of the "celebrities" in that video.
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I don't keep up on "celebrities"....
Then how do you know whom to vote for? ???
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Irwin is a bad toucher.
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Speaking of touchers, if all this stuff is fair game, then goodbye Cory Booker, right? Because unlike Kavanaugh, Booker said he did it.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/bookers-push-for-kavanaugh-vote-delay-called-out-over-his-1992-column-detailing-teenage-groping.html
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Speaking of touchers, if all this stuff is fair game, then goodbye Cory Booker, right? Because unlike Kavanaugh, Booker said he did it.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/20/bookers-push-for-kavanaugh-vote-delay-called-out-over-his-1992-column-detailing-teenage-groping.html
“This disingenuous right-wing attack, which has circulated online and in partisan outlets for the past five years, rings hollow to anyone who reads the entirety of Senator Booker’s Stanford Daily column,” a spokesperson for the senator said in a statement to Fox News.
“The column is in fact a direct criticism of a culture that encourages young men to take advantage of women -- written at a time when so candidly discussing these issues was rare -- and speaks to the impact Senator Booker’s experience working to help rape and sexual assault survivors as a college peer counselor had on him.”
How does this in any way "ring hollow"? Booker did what the Blasey-Ford woman accused Kavanaugh of doing. Booker admits having done it. Why is it okay for a Democrat to have done it but not okay for a Republican to have maybe done it?
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Calling out the lefts hypocrisy never works.
Nobody expects them to have integrity and their whole governing philosophy is the ends justify the means.
Even though the left seems to be populated with lechers pointing it out doesn’t seem to impact their support dramatically.
For whatever reason that is a battle space they never really lose in regardless of how many casualties they take. The pound me too movement is littered with rich leftists but I’m not seeing anyone jumping on the train running on the right rails in response.
The right needs to choose the ground the fight takes place on, like the border and illegal immigration or example.
If the Republicans vote in Kavanuagh as planned I’ll be pleased. That means they chose the terms of the fight and the battle ground.
If Trump has taught us anything it is this, define the terms of the conflict and if your opponent gets the initiative don’t slug it out but work to reframe the conflict.
Never let them define the battle space.
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Speaking of left-wing hypocrisy:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36114/senator-gillibrand-makes-fool-herself-just-10-ryan-saavedra
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Does it make sense that the Dems would trot this old story out with nobody to corroborate her story?
Either they are really, really dumb or they still have an ace up their sleeve.
It’s hard to analyze clown world rationally.
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Does it make sense that the Dems would trot this old story out with nobody to corroborate her story?
Yes.
They don’t have to convict him, they just have to derail his nomination and an accusation could do that.
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Does it make sense that the Dems would trot this old story out with nobody to corroborate her story?
Either they are really, really dumb or they still have an ace up their sleeve.
It’s hard to analyze clown world rationally.
Option C. They are really, really desparate to do anything to delay/deny Kavanaugh's vote/confirmation until after the mid-term. There are ~5 D Senators that are up for re-election in States that Trump handily carried. If they don't have to vote on Kavanaugh's confirm (one way or the other) they might survive and be re-elected. Polling shows that those states may like their D senators, but the people do want them to reach across the aisle to help enact (some of) Trump's agenda.
They also hold out hope that they can take the Senate, although the math is very much against them.
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If your analysis is true that’s a real “Hail Satan” pass on their part then.
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Ya know. The left may be shooting themselves in the foot over this. I’m not really a fan of Kavanaugh. Far better than any Hillary pick I can imagine, but I think he is squishy and was more likely to side with liberals on some things like battling Davos over the Title IX kangaroo courts stuff or the so called emergency protective orders, etc. He is likey to have a different perspective now that he has been the victim of what is almost certainly false accusations about decisions on this stuff.
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I don't think they thought it even had a real chance of derailing the nomination. I suspect the primary goal of amping this up is to turn woman voters off the GOP for the midterms. Stuff like this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-trump-midterms-women-of-color/570727/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-hearing/570625/
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Does it make sense that the Dems would trot this old story out with nobody to corroborate her story?
Either they are really, really dumb or they still have an ace up their sleeve.
It’s hard to analyze clown world rationally.
Did they have corroborating evidence for Anita Hill?
I don't think they thought it even had a real chance of derailing the nomination. I suspect the primary goal of amping this up is to turn woman voters off the GOP for the midterms.
That, and delegitimizing another conservative justice.
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So now Ford's attorneys (I guess she has multiples now?) are demanding that Ford will only testify if Kavanaugh goes first, so they can see what he says. Is this not pretty much the opposite of our legal system? How can the accused testify before an accuser does in an "innocent until proven guilty" society?
I really hope that neither the Rs nor Kavanaugh agree to this simply to look like they want to show how open they are. Very dangerous precedent.
ETA: In fact I'm trying to remember if I read something about "confess your crimes" in a dystopian SciFi book or else saw it on Game of Thrones a couple of seasons ago.
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Trump's twitter fingers have been surprisingly restrained here. Either he knows, or he has five people holding him down, that this is the time to let dems shoot themselves in their collective feet. His tweets so far, from what I have seen, have actually been pretty "presidential" and unbiased. I think that is making the White House look remarkably good here.
Keeping quiet was smart. I don't think this will help.
I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!
The radical left lawyers want the FBI to get involved NOW. Why didn’t someone call the FBI 36 years ago?
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Also, the latest now is that we can't have white men questioning Ford because patriarchy? So if I'm ever in court, in front of a judge or a jury, I can demand that everyone involved be sympathetic to me? I can pick the race, gender, and philosophy of everyone involved in ascertaining my guilt or innocence? I can be assured of the opposing attorney supporting me? Because that would be awesome.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/21/fume-thread-of-media-quotes-claiming-white-men-cant-be-objective-questioning-ford-is-just-infuriating/
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Keeping quiet was smart. I don't think this will help.
Well, on the bright side, it was probably one of the longest stretches before he fell back into antagonistic tweets. :laugh:
IMO, he would have been better off continuing to support Kavanaugh, while generically saying "let's have testimony". Him directly attacking Ford in any way, deserved or not, will not help things.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/21/trump-calls-on-kavanaugh-accuser-to-provide-police-report-from-alleged-assault.html
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If your analysis is true that’s a real “Hail Satan” pass on their part then.
Oh, and there's some Merrick Garland payback mixed in there also....
Ya know. The left may be shooting themselves in the foot over this. I’m not really a fan of Kavanaugh. Far better than any Hillary pick I can imagine, but I think he is squishy and was more likely to side with liberals on some things like battling Davos over the Title IX kangaroo courts stuff or the so called emergency protective orders, etc. He is likey to have a different perspective now that he has been the victim of what is almost certainly false accusations about decisions on this stuff.
I actually thought that Kavanaugh would be another Kennedy, just from reading some of his 300+ opinions. Yes, he's a constitutionalist, but he looks for "wiggle room" to be a little more left then I'd prefer.
However, after his now attempted lynching by the liberal left, I would hope/guess that he'll be far to the right of Scalia.
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I don't remember, but I thought he wasn't a fan of the 4th Amendment. :police:
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^^^I always thought that the primary reason for his nomination were his opinions as to a sitting President should enjoy some degree of immunity from criminal prosecution and civil claims while in office. Perhaps President Trump thinks this would be good for him, or for the office of the Presidency as a whole.
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Keeping quiet was smart. I don't think this will help.
It is his nature. Staying quiet too long would be out of character.
I agree with the comment that this is all about delay. If they thought this was credible enough to stop the nomination, they would have brought it up sooner.
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Oh, and there's some Merrick Garland payback mixed in there also....
I actually thought that Kavanaugh would be another Kennedy, just from reading some of his 300+ opinions. Yes, he's a constitutionalist, but he looks for "wiggle room" to be a little more left then I'd prefer.
However, after his now attempted lynching by the liberal left, I would hope/guess that he'll be far to the right of Scalia.
I was lukewarm on him too. The lynching has now put him into the same category as my (general) support for Trump. I just want him there to piss off the left now, and as you said, this may have him rethinking some of his views to lean a bit more classical liberal regarding the constitution.
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^^^I always thought that the primary reason for his nomination were his opinions as to a sitting President should enjoy some degree of immunity from criminal prosecution and civil claims while in office. Perhaps President Trump thinks this would be good for him, or for the office of the Presidency as a whole.
I don't think so. I think that was more of a Dem talking point. I thought that he was nominated because he had no background baggage like some of the other potential nominees. Someone who they thought would sail through the process, because while yes, he was staff secretary in the BushII White House, that's not a policy job. It's to make sure that every one making pronouncements in the name of Administration is on-board with the Administration. He was more of an editor then a maker or policy.
And his 300+ opinions showed that he was somewhat squishy especially on the 4th, so he could be another Kennedy. (Thanks Bob, I remember now.)
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I don't think so. I think that was more of a Dem talking point. I thought that he was nominated because he had no background baggage like some of the other potential nominees. Someone who they thought would sail through the process, because while yes, he was staff secretary in the BushII White House, that's not a policy job. It's to make sure that every one making pronouncements in the name of Administration is on-board with the Administration. He was more of an editor then a maker or policy.
And his 300+ opinions showed that he was somewhat squishy especially on the 4th, so he could be another Kennedy. (Thanks Bob, I remember now.)
Not just the fourth. The First and Tenth too from what I saw. About the only one where I felt he might be a little better than Kennedy was the Second and I don’t think any guarantees there. He was mostly just another Kennedy. The left may very well have pushed him more to the right with their shenanigans though. That may also be bad for all of us, I want originalists, not someone coming from the left and right. I have a lot of disagreements with the so called conservatives in the GOP too. There are a number of things I actually agree with many liberals/Dems on as more or less a libertarian.
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I have a lot of disagreements with the so called conservatives in the GOP too. There are a number of things I actually agree with many liberals/Dems on as more or less a libertarian.
Indeed. As you mentioned, they seem to be especially bad on the 4th and related. There's a pretty large segment of conservatives that are big on safety over freedom, and "If you have nothing to hide..." The Peter King type of conservatives.
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I don't remember, but I thought he wasn't a fan of the 4th Amendment. :police:
Correct. Which was the reason I was unhappy that he was the nominee.
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I thought this was pretty powerful, especially from the aspect, as mentioned here in the thread by several, that if Kavanaugh was what Ford says he is there would be more women like her - even one or two more - from the last 35 years coming forward. Instead we have this from the last 35 years (I thought the pan out at the end was great):
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/21/proud-to-stand-with-brett-video-of-kavanaughs-female-colleagues-and-friends-spells-trouble-for-lefts-smear-campaign/
Also, tangent - Feinstein still refuses to release the original letter as evidence. That is also powerful in another way.
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Oh, and there's some Merrick Garland payback mixed in there also....
I actually thought that Kavanaugh would be another Kennedy, just from reading some of his 300+ opinions. Yes, he's a constitutionalist, but he looks for "wiggle room" to be a little more left then I'd prefer.
However, after his now attempted lynching by the liberal left, I would hope/guess that he'll be far to the right of Scalia.
All these years of thinking the leftists were evil geniuses then Trump comes along and shows they are dumb and that the actual problem has been the wimpy leftists larping in the Republican Party as “conservatives”.
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I keep saying that if Trump has done one thing it's exposing the Deep State and the hypocrisy and corruption on the left.
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Smells worse and worse. Now she says the hearing has to be delayed because she won't get on an airplane. The committee (at least the Rs) already said they would all come to her.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/21/what-a-joke-this-has-become-guess-why-christine-blasey-ford-and-dems-might-seek-to-further-delay-kavanaugh-hearing/
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Smells worse and worse. Now she says the hearing has to be delayed because she won't get on an airplane. The committee (at least the Rs) already said they would all come to her.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/21/what-a-joke-this-has-become-guess-why-christine-blasey-ford-and-dems-might-seek-to-further-delay-kavanaugh-hearing/
^^^I myself would hold out for a ride in the backseat of a F-15 Eagle two-seater, going supersonic all the way. And throw in some mid-air refuelings as well, because that would be cool to see.
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"The dog ate my
homework testimony."
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Smells worse and worse. Now she says the hearing has to be delayed because she won't get on an airplane. The committee (at least the Rs) already said they would all come to her.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/21/what-a-joke-this-has-become-guess-why-christine-blasey-ford-and-dems-might-seek-to-further-delay-kavanaugh-hearing/
i bet someone could find an previous instance of her traveling on a plane...
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i bet someone could find an previous instance of her traveling on a plane...
Why are you threatening to stalk her and invade her privacy, s**tlord? RAPE!!
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i bet someone could find an previous instance of her traveling on a plane...
^^^ This. I'm not prepared to accept that she doesn't ride in airplanes. I'm betting she's jetted all over the place, and I hope some enterprising investigative journalist has a way of finding out just where she has gone for her vacations in recent years -- and how she got there.
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"The dog ate my homework testimony."
"I'm washing my hair Monday."
Terry, 230RN
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i bet someone could find an previous instance of her traveling on a plane...
Yup. I guarantee there's some pic of her on vacation in Europe or the Caribbean or somewhere. This will be some recent fear of flying and how dare you question it?!?
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Gee what a shocker. Montgomery County law enforcement stands ready to take Kavanaugh down.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/21/not-really-breaking-news-montgomery-county-police-ready-to-investigate-brett-kavanaugh-if-dr-ford-files-complaint/
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i bet someone could find an previous instance of her traveling on a plane...
They already have, unless she took her surfboard there I would bet she stepped onto a plane or two, one going and one coming back.
When she moved to Hawaii for a one-year internship to complete her PhD —
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/christine-blasey-ford-wanted-to-flee-the-us-to-avoid-brett-kavanaugh-now-she-may-testify-against-him/2018/09/22/db942340-bdb1-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.1b1283144ca8
bob
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Gee what a shocker. Montgomery County law enforcement stands ready to take Kavanaugh down.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/21/not-really-breaking-news-montgomery-county-police-ready-to-investigate-brett-kavanaugh-if-dr-ford-files-complaint/
Which is the way it is supposed to go. That sort of thing is not the FBI's jurisdiction. I also heard Maryland has no time limits on such a crime.
Of course, she would need to come up with a few more lies details.
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Yup. I guarantee there's some pic of her on vacation in Europe or the Caribbean or somewhere. This will be some recent fear of flying and how dare you question it?!?
She is said to have been to Hawaii.... maybe she swam there.
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Which is the way it is supposed to go. That sort of thing is not the FBI's jurisdiction. I also heard Maryland has no time limits on such a crime.
Of course, she would need to come up with a few more lies details.
Well, yeah, it's a local issue, but knowing Montgomery County, that "ready to investigate" means "ready to take him down". Plus it seems like every legal expert, even those sympathetic to Ford, is saying there is no way to get any kind of a criminal case out of this.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see an indictment and charges next week.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see an indictment and charges next week.
Statute of limitations?
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Statute of limitations?
I heard there weren't any for the likely charge in Maryland.
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I heard there weren't any for the likely charge in Maryland.
Yup, no statute of limitations. That way 30 years from now, when tapping a woman on the shoulder to get her attention is classified as rape, they can convict some 80 year old guy who did that in his 30's, because social justice trumps historical laws and norms.
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I have kinda left this alone since my first thought was go file a complaint in the local jurisdiction. Now Macabe's lawyer has resigned from his big law firm to join her team.
It is follow the money time.
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I have kinda left this alone since my first thought was go file a complaint in the local jurisdiction. Now Macabe's lawyer has resigned from his big law firm to join her team.
It is follow the money time.
Yup, she's getting quite the stable of attorneys, and yeah, I'd be interested in who is footing the bill.
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Well, this should be interesting if true: The woman who Ford named as a witness at the party has just, through her attorney, issued a statement that she basically doesn't know what Ford is talking about. Believe all women.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/22/report-lawyer-says-christine-blasey-fords-classmate-has-no-recollection-of-ever-being-at-a-party-with-kavanaugh-or-ford/
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In related news
Ruth Bader Ginsburg now says that she was Groped by Abraham Lincoln.
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Well, this should be interesting if true: The woman who Ford named as a witness at the party has just, through her attorney, issued a statement that she basically doesn't know what Ford is talking about. Believe all women.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/22/report-lawyer-says-christine-blasey-fords-classmate-has-no-recollection-of-ever-being-at-a-party-with-kavanaugh-or-ford/
Huh? What? This is a remarkably poorly coordinated Bork.
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In related news
Ruth Bader Ginsburg now says that she was Groped by Abraham Lincoln.
You know she hasn't washed that doily around her neck since she was the deciding vote in the Dred Scott decision...
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https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/22/simply-understanding-how-to-dress-is-just-one-reason-christine-blasey-ford-cant-possibly-be-prepared-by-monday/
She should just dress as a Handmaiden...problem solved...
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The plot sickens:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/22/how-feinstein-is-conspiring-to-destroy-kavanaugh/
And it becomes ever more clear that it is nothing but a plot.
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Another interesting, if possibly irrelevant, point: I saw a Fox News poll this morning that showed more people believe Ford than believe Kavanaugh, and that Kavanaugh should remove himself from consideration. That might make more sense if there were no witnesses, but we now have four of the five people that Ford named saying they weren't where she said they were. One might still have doubts regarding the males who are purportedly Kavanaugh's friends, but with the other female, purportedly a friend of Ford's stepping up, it makes no sense to me unless all these people simply don't use any other news source than Huffpo.
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The left is so bold in its evil.
You would think I wouldn’t be shocked after all these years.
Yet here I am, once again gobsmacked by the brazen deception they are perpetrating on the public using all their channels of influence.
My first reaction was accurate, I should have never doubted it by wondering if they had secret evidence.
All they have are lies because they are in league with the father of lies.
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The left is so bold in its evil.
You would think I wouldn’t be shocked after all these years.
Yet here I am, once again gobsmacked by the brazen deception they are perpetrating on the public using all their channels of influence.
My first reaction was accurate, I should have never doubted it by wondering if they had secret evidence.
All they have are lies because they are in league with the father of lies.
The reason for the polling numbers more than likely has more to do with A. the respondent having no clue about the appointment whatsoever, B. the respondent only watching CNN or MSNBC or other MSM sources, C. people with as much evil intent as the Democrat Party Establishment and it's leadership than reality.
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The Republican leadership caved, deciding to let Ford delay her testimony until Thursday. Honestly, I expected nothing less. Now I wonder how many more concavities they have.
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NEW YORKER to publish account of a new woman and a ‘dildo’.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/developing-new-yorker-to-roll-out-story-of-another-woman-accusing-kavanaugh-illicit-sex-involves-dildo/
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez
The story of Ms. Ramirez.
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez
The story of Ms. Ramirez.
So after talking to her lawyers, she decided it was Kavanaugh. Okay.
These people do realize that if this is how we're going to do things, we will never see another justice appointed to the supreme court, no matter which side of the aisle is in power, because God isn't going to bother applying, and no one else is perfect.
From now on each side will simply dig up someone who "had a past incident" with some future appointee, even if it happened in the third grade, even if it can't be proven, even if it's a lie. Either way, it taints that appointee.
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If at first you don't succeed, lie lie again.
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What these people realize is by just how slender a thread Kavanaugh's appointment hangs. No Democrats will vote for him. All they have to do with their lies is flip two Republican votes. They will succeed.
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And now we have a #3 courtesy of Stormy Daniels' lawyer.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/23/michael-avenatti-says-he-has-another-kavanaugh-accuser-not-deborah-ramirez-demands-opportunity-to-present-testimony/
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There have been some good democrats over the years being in a small town with limited choices.
As an independent I will vote R, I or write in. I will vote against every D from here on out after this circus.
Crap we need a good independent running because these spineless R's suck.
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There have been some good democrats over the years being in a small town with limited choices.
As an independent I will vote R, I or write in. I will vote against every D from here on out after this circus.
Crap we need a good independent running because these spineless R's suck.
And if they don't confirm Kavanaugh, no one will ever vote Republican again.
I'm exaggerating, but you know what I mean.
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So after talking to her lawyers, she decided it was Kavanaugh. Okay.
These people do realize that if this is how we're going to do things, we will never see another justice appointed to the supreme court, no matter which side of the aisle is in power, because God isn't going to bother applying, and no one else is perfect.
From now on each side will simply dig up someone who "had a past incident" with some future appointee, even if it happened in the third grade, even if it can't be proven, even if it's a lie. Either way, it taints that appointee.
I wish you were right. The Dems will appoint them all day, because the Republicans lack the spine to just push them through when they have power or the gall to bring a string of sock puppets with bullshit allegations.
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I can't decide which is worse, lying leftists or the cave artists known as "Republicans".
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez
The story of Ms. Ramirez.
And just like Dr. Ford's accusation, the other three "witnesses" deny it happened.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/23/flimsier-than-the-original-is-the-new-ronan-farrow-kavanaugh-story-already-falling-apart/
And here's why it's another BS accusation:
More recently, she has begun to reassess what happened. “Even if I did drink too much, any person observing it, would they want their daughter, their granddaughter, with a penis in their face, while they’re drinking that much?” she said. “I can say that at fifty-three, but when I was nineteen or twenty I was vulnerable. I didn’t know better.” Reflecting on the incident now, she said she considers Kavanaugh’s male classmates culpable. “They’re accountable for not stopping this,” she said. However, “What Brett did is worse.” She added, “What does it mean, that this person has a role in defining women’s rights in our future?”
It's not that he did the act (he didn't), it's he has to be kept off the USSC, because of Roe v Wade.
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The Washington Times gets it:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/22/christine-blasey-ford-could-indeed-be-lying/
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I've sent Grassley two e-mails, one Friday night and another this morning. I asked him to quit playing footsie with Feinstein and just call the vote. Any Republican who doesn't vote for Kavanaugh after this sorry charade should be impeached.
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This is just sick now.
I know (and knew) who the Democrats are, and I honestly shouldn't be surprised by this, but this is one of the most wicked and disgusting displays I've ever seen in politics in this country. Not even just "in my lifetime".
The Democrats are attempting to destroy a man's reputation with false allegations of rape, assault, and everything else they can throw at him. The only things comparable in national politics at this point are actual murders and assaults*.
The portents of this are frightening.
*Here I'm talking about Charles Sumner being beat on the Senate floor by Preston Brooks and the duel between Hamilton and Burr.
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I was waiting for them to spring more accusations on him. SURPRISE!
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This is just sick now.
I know (and knew) who the Democrats are, and I honestly shouldn't be surprised by this, but this is one of the most wicked and disgusting displays I've ever seen in politics in this country. Not even just "in my lifetime".
The Democrats are attempting to destroy a man's reputation with false allegations of rape, assault, and everything else they can throw at him. The only things comparable in national politics at this point are actual murders and assaults*.
The portents of this are frightening.
*Here I'm talking about Charles Sumner being beat on the Senate floor by Preston Brooks and the duel between Hamilton and Burr.
Indeed. I mean, the Avenatti claim is now "gang rape". This is getting into bizarro Kafka territory.
I hate to even think like this, but at this point, I wish conservatives had some equivalent of antifa or other left groups, and that they would dig into the past of every single democrat senator and congressman. I bet they could come up with plenty of disqualifying dirt, let alone made up stuff. Especially if we are going to apply all aspects of the current metoo/diversity/sjw philosophies to the norms from decades ago.
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Indeed. I mean, the Avenatti claim is now "gang rape". This is getting into bizarro Kafka territory.
I hate to even think like this, but at this point, I wish conservatives had some equivalent of antifa or other left groups, and that they would dig into the past of every single democrat senator and congressman. I bet they could come up with plenty of disqualifying dirt, let alone made up stuff. Especially if we are going to apply all aspects of the current metoo/diversity/sjw philosophies to the norms from decades ago.
There are people like that on the Republican side. They just don't have the ear of the "mainstream" media, or of Republicans in the Senate Judiciary committee, or elsewhere. The closest thing we have to Di-Fi's malicious rumor-mongering is what Trump said about Cruz's dad. Not even Republicans believed that stuff.
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There are people like that on the Republican side. They just don't have the ear of the "mainstream" media, or of Republicans in the Senate Judiciary committee, or elsewhere. The closest thing we have to Di-Fi's malicious rumor-mongering is what Trump said about Cruz's dad. Not even Republicans believed that stuff.
This also is true. Without the MSM, this would not be what it is. Have we heard about Ellison lately?
Just look at this from the New Yorker article:
“Ms. Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates asking if they recalled the incident and told some them that she could not be certain Mr. Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself”:
She wasn't sure until after she talked with attorneys (I would like to see some bios on her legal team).
You know what, while Ford's accusations of attempted rape are serious, I am in all seriousness asking, what is the big deal if he actually was at this party and pulled out his wiener? Does anyone who was in High School or college during that time remember what college parties were like? Everyone was trying to emulate "Animal House" and everyone, male and female, thought it was cool to do so.
I recall sitting in an urban geography class where some guy trying to get in a fraternity popped in the room naked, wiggled his wiener for everyone while reciting some stupid fraternity thing, then running out. Everyone was cracking up, including the older female professor. I guess that guy could never run for office, at least anymore. Maybe he already did and he's some congressman from somewhere. I wonder how many of the females in that classroom who thought it was the funniest thing ever would now call it sexual assault?
Also, taken from the quote Scout gave above:
“I can say that at fifty-three, but when I was nineteen or twenty I was vulnerable. I didn’t know better.”
Wasn't Kavanaugh also 19 or 20? Maybe he didn't know any better either. I have a whole big long list of stuff from my teens and early twenties, that in my fifties, I have checked off as "that was stupid".
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I can pretty much check off the years from 13-17 years old as "That was really Stupid."
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https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/24/holy-sht-did-ronan-farrow-really-just-throw-senate-dems-under-the-bus-about-ramirez/
THE Money Quote on the whole sordid mess:
Before democrats get all high and mighty, it should be pointed out that they aren’t looking for justice for women, they are looking for political ammunition against a guy they don’t like.
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But wait, there's more. Dr. Ford didn't send the letter to Feinstein, she sent it to Rep. Eshoo, who has zero jurisdiction in the confirmation of Kavanaugh.
But why ??
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.
So since Rep. Eshoo is NOT part of the Senate Judiciary Committee, if the letter is a lie (which it more and more seems like it is), Dr. Ford can NOT be prosecuted for making a false statement....Now, how would she know that ??
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/23/is-this-why-dems-wont-hand-the-letter-over-even-the-way-ford-submitted-her-letter-to-feinstein-is-shady-af/
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On that one, for fairness sake, I might hold off on malice until there is more information. While Ford was obviously looking for a politician to talk to versus LE or other more relevant entities, I think our local congressional reps are the first politician most of us would think to go to regarding some grievance against the government. Though I'm not sure if Eshoo is Ford's rep or not.
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Not being of the leftish persuasion, or a consumer of cable news, I can't tell if Avenatti is just going off on his own stupid tangent, or if "they" are sending him out as someone who has credibility with the low-info crowd. Maybe the allegations against Kavanaugh, weak as they may be, have prepped those people to believe something as outlandish as what Avenatti is suggesting.
Either way, props to Avenatti for finding evidence the FBI never found in any of their previous background investigations!
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Either way, props to Avenatti for finding evidence the FBI never found in any of their previous background investigations!
I'm getting really sick of seeing that guy's face. He manages to attach himself to every news story of the week. :mad:
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I tried sending email to Cornyn & Grassley. Seems as if Senate.Gov is down for maintenance.
Refreshed both pages a few minutes later, Cornyn's was up, Grassley's was still showing as down for maintenance.
This BS has to be stopped - now. The Dem's have been getting away with destroying people's lives for too long, and they're trying to do it with less and less substantial allegations.
Vote for Kavanaugh now. Let the "ladies" testify when they finally decide to. If it turns out Kavanaugh did something illegal, work it out then. Personally, I doubt there is any substantial evidence to their claims.
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Re: Avenatti
I'm getting really sick of seeing that guy's face. He manages to attach himself to every news story of the week. :mad:
Ain't that the truth. Makes you wonder if Avenatti and "Camera" Hogg are reading the same playbook.
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The two women who came forward were careful not to allege legitimate rape (see what I did there?). That way, it's easier for them to explain why they never reported it at the time. Then Avenatti comes in with the gang-rape thing. Oh, and Daily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/36232/stormy-daniels-lawyer-claims-he-has-evidence-amanda-prestigiacomo) has a list of the questions he supposedly wants to ask Kavenaugh. Here's the last one:
6. Did you even object or attempt to prevent one or more men from participating in the rape, or taking advantage, of a woman at any house party?
Cute.
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I'm getting really sick of seeing that guy's face. He manages to attach himself to every news story of the week. :mad:
That's the advantage of never watching the news. I've seen a few pictures, but I have honestly no idea what Creepy Porn Lawyer's face looks like.
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Indeed. I mean, the Avenatti claim is now "gang rape". This is getting into bizarro Kafka territory.
(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Screen-Shot-2018-09-22-at-5.19.30-PM1.png)
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Depends on your definition of "gang rape":
Two different guys on two consecutive days touched me on the shoulder!! Gang Rape!!!!
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Depends on your definition of "gang rape":
Two different guys on two consecutive days touched me on the shoulder!! Gang Rape!!!!
And Brett Kavenaugh did nothing to stop it.
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On that one, for fairness sake, I might hold off on malice until there is more information. While Ford was obviously looking for a politician to talk to versus LE or other more relevant entities, I think our local congressional reps are the first politician most of us would think to go to regarding some grievance against the government. Though I'm not sure if Eshoo is Ford's rep or not.
I disagree. Ford isn't your average, Spanish-only illegal alien who doesn't understand (or claims not to) how our system of government works. She's a native-born American citizen with a post-graduate degree. Ever since the Bork debacle, and then Thomas, Americans have had plenty of opportunity and reason to know that the Senate confirms Supreme Court nominations, not the House. If I have a concern that falls under Senate jurisdiction, my congressional representative is not the first person I think of contacting. She's also not the last -- if it's something that concerns the Senate, I have a very short list of names to contact. There are only two names on it ...
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I'm getting really sick of seeing that guy's face. He manages to attach himself to every news story of the week. :mad:
He's running for President. He has to do something to keep his name in the news....Like Hillary does... ;/
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Kavanaugh sent a very strongly worded letter to the Senate leadership today saying he would not be intimidated into withdrawing his nomination. This makes me wonder if the leadership has been privately sounding him out about withdrawing.
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Kavanaugh sent a very strongly worded letter to the Senate leadership today saying he would not be intimidated into withdrawing his nomination. This makes me wonder if the leadership has been privately sounding him out about withdrawing.
He's letting everyone know that he didn't do it. If he did he'd withdrawal and say he was the victim of a unprovable accusations and wants to spare his family...blah, blah, blah.
He intends to stand and fight. And I just hope that he remembers this when he up on the USSC. I thought he was pretty squishy, Kennedy-esqe, and would lean liberal. This horsepoop should make him lean to the right of Thomas and Scalia.
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Orrin Hatch has had enough.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/24/it-is-so-on-orrin-hatch-shreds-senate-dems-for-demeaning-senate-and-scotus-with-partisan-games-in-brutal-thread/
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Sen. Flake (R) AZ has stated he intends to vote "present" at the confirmation vote, should it actually be held.
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Laura Ingraham points out that what the D's do (Biden rule, Reid and the Filibuster) come back to bite them in the ass.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/24/savage-laura-ingraham-just-turned-the-tables-on-senate-dems-smearing-kavanaugh-and-they-so-had-it-coming/
While the official R's are to highbrow and high-minded to go digging into the D's past. You can bet that there are some people digging into many Senate D's background right now. (Plus they will be digging into any future D nominees, should that ever come to pass).
Oh, and this fight sure has energized the Trump base. You can bet they will be out to vote in November...That Blue Wave may be in serious trouble.
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I sent an email to senator grassley urging him to close the hearings and immediately vote to confirm.
I also told him he would be my hero forever if he appears for the hearings Thursday in a vintage circus ringman's uniform with a whip in one hand.
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All of this over someone I consider to be a thoroughly middle-of-the-road swamp-adjacent good-on-somethings-but-horrible-on-other-things candidate.
I would not care if he pulled out for some other reason as there is a near-endless list of these guys and gals that can be appointed but I find myself actually supporting him because I cannot stomach the left winning this battle.
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You can bet that there are some people digging into many Senate D's background right now. (Plus they will be digging into any future D nominees, should that ever come to pass).
Oh, and this fight sure has energized the Trump base. You can bet they will be out to vote in November...That Blue Wave may be in serious trouble.
As a US citizen and taxpayer, I DEMAND that the FBI initiate an immediate investigation of all dem senators and congressional reps. I demand that specifically, their college years are thoroughly investigated, leaving no stone unturned and with full consideration of all hearsay statements. I especially demand that all spring break activities are thoroughly investigated, and all witnesses, especially inebriated witnesses, are taken seriously.
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Once Kavanaugh is appointed, this mess should "improve" his decisions, at least! =D
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All of this over someone I consider to be a thoroughly middle-of-the-road swamp-adjacent good-on-somethings-but-horrible-on-other-things candidate.
I would not care if he pulled out for some other reason as there is a near-endless list of these guys and gals that can be appointed but I find myself actually supporting him because I cannot stomach the left winning this battle.
Yep, we’ve been maneuvered into supporting a judge who is from the Bush end of the swamp.
Nonetheless, he should be confirmed on schedule.
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Sen. Flake (R) AZ has stated he intends to vote "present" at the confirmation vote, should it actually be held.
Source? That would be awfully slimy, even for Flake.
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Sen. Flake (R) AZ has stated he intends to vote "present" at the confirmation vote, should it actually be held.
Nice to see that he's living up to (or is that down to) his name...
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Think this is bad, wait until Trump puts up one of his short list women for a ussc nomination.
Correction, he needs a black woman so we can see all the ugliness. Wanted, conservative jurist. Minority lesbian female preferred.
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Think this is bad, wait until Trump puts up one of his short list women for a ussc nomination.
Correction, he needs a black woman so we can see all the ugliness. Wanted, conservative jurist. Minority lesbian female preferred.
Condoleezza. Not so sure about the lesbian part, but otherwise good. Probably more to my liking that Kavanaugh. Technically I don’t think a Justice is required constitionally to be a lawyer or have a law degree. It might be preferable if they read the constitution without a typical lawyerly weasily reading that allows them to find things not written there.
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Condoleezza. Not so sure about the lesbian part, but otherwise good. Probably more to my liking that Kavanaugh. Technically I don’t think a Justice is required constitionally to be a lawyer or have a law degree. It might be preferable if they read the constitution without a typical lawyerly weasily reading that allows them to find things not written there.
Actually I forget which one, but I thought one of the women up last time was a much stricter constitutionalist than Kavanaugh. At this point they have me worked up to the point that even though I think Kavanaugh leans more to the Bush side, I feel sorry enough for the guy that I want him to get it just to stick it to these jackasses.
On the other hand, if Kavanaugh has to step down, it could be brilliant to put a much more conservative woman up in his place. I'm wondering if she wouldn't be a shoe-in, because the left will have played out the last minute gotchya ploy with Kavanaugh. If they came up with last minute weird ass accusations about the woman, I think they would lose even moderate dems. It would be entertaining to watch feminist heads explode though.
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I would be willing to bet that Trump's next appointment will be a woman.
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I still think when RBG goes do Garland and watch the lefts heads e xplode
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Actually I forget which one, but I thought one of the women up last time was a much stricter constitutionalist than Kavanaugh. At this point they have me worked up to the point that even though I think Kavanaugh leans more to the Bush side, I feel sorry enough for the guy that I want him to get it just to stick it to these jackasses.
On the other hand, if Kavanaugh has to step down, it could be brilliant to put a much more conservative woman up in his place. I'm wondering if she wouldn't be a shoe-in, because the left will have played out the last minute gotchya ploy with Kavanaugh. If they came up with last minute weird ass accusations about the woman, I think they would lose even moderate dems. It would be entertaining to watch feminist heads explode though.
You're probably thinking of Amy Barrett. I don't know about more strictly constitutionalist, probably more religious conservative to an extent. Now as a non-religious libertarian I probably put her in the same realm as Kavanaugh, not excited, but not afraid of her either particularly. I think she had an issue with a religious group she belonged to that probably shouldn't really be that scary, but was different enough it would have led to Dems screaming and hollering as well. Apparently they even had Handmaids as a title for some leaders - not a good image at the moment despite how innocent from the whole liberal fantasy of the Handmaid's Tale being reality going on. Her group also apparently actually has a bit of liberal reputation according to some reports as well. Pro-illegal immigration being an example I read.
I think whomever is advising Trump on SC appointments is not doing a great job, Gorsuch aside. There have to be some more real constitutionalists/originalists out that that aren't the squishy conservative of Kavanaugh or overly religious conservative of Barrett histories out there. Not that I'm that particularly opposed to either personally, especially vs. the alternative if Hillary had been elected. Any of the other Republicans probably would be choosing from the same group of potential Justices.
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I think whomever is advising Trump on SC appointments is not doing a great job, Gorsuch aside. There have to be some more real constitutionalists/originalists out that that aren't the squishy conservative of Kavanaugh or overly religious conservative of Barrett histories out there.
I'm thinking Don Willett or Andrew Napolitano. =D
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Source? That would be awfully slimy, even for Flake.
Heard it on Rush Limbaugh's show while driving to the hardware store today. I sometimes catch short parts of his show when I'm headed somewhere in the truck. Otherwise, I don't listen to him much anymore.
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Orrin Hatch has had enough.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/24/it-is-so-on-orrin-hatch-shreds-senate-dems-for-demeaning-senate-and-scotus-with-partisan-games-in-brutal-thread/
Senator Hatch's closing paragraph is essentially verbatim what I wrote to Mitch McConnell about half an hour ago.
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All of this over someone I consider to be a thoroughly middle-of-the-road swamp-adjacent good-on-somethings-but-horrible-on-other-things candidate.
I would not care if he pulled out for some other reason as there is a near-endless list of these guys and gals that can be appointed but I find myself actually supporting him because I cannot stomach the left winning this battle.
My sentiments exactly. I didn't think he was the best of Trump's final pick list and I wasn't overjoyed by his nomination. My feelings now are that if the Democrats are this scared of him, we probably need to get him confirmed.
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My feelings now are that if the Democrats are this scared of him, we probably need to get him confirmed.
I don't think most of them are that scared of him. I think this is 90% "get Trump". Which in many ways is worse because they're destroying what more and more appears to be an innocent man's life just to stick it to another guy. At this point the accusers could sign affidavits that they lied, and Kavanaugh would still have this glued to him for the rest of his life.
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I don't think most of them are that scared of him. I think this is 90% "get Trump". Which in many ways is worse because they're destroying what more and more appears to be an innocent man's life just to stick it to another guy. At this point the accusers could sign affidavits that they lied, and Kavanaugh would still have this glued to him for the rest of his life.
I think they would have done this, even if Jeb! were president. There may be some TDS here - there's always TDS - but I think most of it is left-wing rage at the idea of a 5-4 conservative/originalist court, along with their thirst for revenge, since Merrick Garland got dissed.
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Kavanaugh was probably seen by the administration as the least controversial of the list. One that could pick-up a Manchin, a Donnelly and possibly a Heitikamp vote. One that was acceptable to every R in the Senate. With 300 opinions, there were ones that some like and some that other liked. Again, he was going to be Kennedy's replacement, in more ways then one.
Almost all the D's announced that they were going to vote against WHOEVER Trump nominated. That's not how it's supposed to be done. It should be to see if they can faithfully follow the Constitution in deciding cases. Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsburg, and Breyer were approved, even though everyone knew they would twist and bend it and even make things that that aren't in there.
But Judical Philosphy wasn't a factor in their approval. Just "Temperment" whatever that means...
I hope that if and when the D's finally do get nominations, there's a line out the capitol building of people with sexual harrassment claims...
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Kavanaugh Speaking On Fox News: I Did Not Have Sexual Relations 'In High School Or For Many Years Thereafter' (https://www.dailywire.com/news/36270/kavanaugh-speaking-fox-news-i-did-not-have-sexual-amanda-prestigiacomo)
No sex until his 20s, or later? That is Mike Pence level misogyny right there. This is worse than we thought!!
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I hope that if and when the D's finally do get nominations, there's a line out the capitol building of people with sexual harrassment claims...
Yeah. Right now, I wish that police forces across the country would send the Senate all of their cold cases from the '80s, and demand investigations.
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Confirmed it through friends of mine... that's a woman I know.
And no, I never touched her.
Not for lack of trying...
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Worth repeating:
MikeB:
...Technically I don’t think a Justice is required constitutionally to be a lawyer or have a law degree. It might be preferable if they read the constitution without a typical lawyerly weaselly reading that allows them to find things not written there.
WISDOM !
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I'm thinking Don Willett or Andrew Napolitano. =D
Andrew Napolitano things every human being on Earth has right to move to the USA:
https://reason.com/archives/2013/01/31/immigration-and-freedom
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I disagree. Ford isn't your average, Spanish-only illegal alien who doesn't understand (or claims not to) how our system of government works. She's a native-born American citizen with a post-graduate degree. Ever since the Bork debacle, and then Thomas, Americans have had plenty of opportunity and reason to know that the Senate confirms Supreme Court nominations, not the House. If I have a concern that falls under Senate jurisdiction, my congressional representative is not the first person I think of contacting. She's also not the last -- if it's something that concerns the Senate, I have a very short list of names to contact. There are only two names on it ...
I will disagree with your disagreement. Or rather, you can lump me in with the illegal alien non-English speakers who don't know what they're doing. I believe it is a common perspective that you start with your local congressional rep and work your way up from there. They are supposed to be much more accessible and keyed in to the districts they represent. Devin Nunes sends me emails every week letting me know what's going on. I never hear anything from Feinstein or Harris. I know that I can run into him most weekends at the International Agri-Center.
While I will hit the "send" button when the NRA tells me to contact my senators, if I had a problem that I came up with on my own, I would start with my congressman and ask for advice on how to proceed. Though there was that one Summer when he told me to get lost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_wu_v7NvTI
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.@MichaelAvenatti says the woman, whom he represents, has multiple security clearances and will “literally risk her life’’ by coming forward https://usat.ly/2N2tDNA #BelieveSurvivors #StopKavanaugh
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LOL https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/21/brutal-chuck-schumers-we-stand-with-you-we-believe-you-tweet-just-blew-up-right-in-the-dems-faces/ (https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/21/brutal-chuck-schumers-we-stand-with-you-we-believe-you-tweet-just-blew-up-right-in-the-dems-faces/)
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Already planting seeds for the extension request. The only surprise is it took them this long. I figured this kind of crap would start happening first thing yesterday morning.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/25/kavanaugh-hearing-once-again-in-doubt-as-christine-ford-raises-new-concerns.html
Brad
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Already planting seeds for the extension request. The only surprise is it took them this long. I figured this kind of crap would start happening first thing yesterday morning.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/25/kavanaugh-hearing-once-again-in-doubt-as-christine-ford-raises-new-concerns.html
Brad
She just doesn't want to actually testify under oath.
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Already planting seeds for the extension request. The only surprise is it took them this long. I figured this kind of crap would start happening first thing yesterday morning.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/25/kavanaugh-hearing-once-again-in-doubt-as-christine-ford-raises-new-concerns.html
Brad
Sen Grassley responded yesterday to a personal letter sent to him by Dr. Ford.
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1044314445118418944
Note the handwritten Post Script.
I get the feeling that he's not very interested in delaying further.
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Confirmed it through friends of mine... that's a woman I know.
And no, I never touched her.
Not for lack of trying...
In other words, you ran a gang rape ring when you were in high school.
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Quote from: 230RN on September 22, 2018, 04:49:00 AM
Quote from: Angel Eyes on September 21, 2018, 04:10:04 PM
"The dog ate my homework testimony."
"I'm washing my hair Monday."
Terry, 230RN
"I'm washing my hair Monday Thursday."
Terry, 230RN
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It appears that Avenatti was trolled by 4Chan. His twitter account has been locked and he has gone off the grid.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/25/holy-wow-if-this-is-true-wait-is-this-why-michael-avenatti-locked-his-twitter-account/ (https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/25/holy-wow-if-this-is-true-wait-is-this-why-michael-avenatti-locked-his-twitter-account/)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn80jqjU4AADetY.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn80jqjU4AADetY.jpg:large)
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It appears that Avenatti was trolled by 4Chan. His twitter account has been locked and he has gone off the grid.
If true, how epic the irony.
Brad
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It appears that Avenatti was trolled by 4Chan. His twitter account has been locked and he has gone off the grid.
It's because he was embarrassed by a 4Chan prank. The "woman" who had him blaring about a new Kavanaugh accuser and Rape Gangs was the girlfriend of a 4Chan guy. When she went dark, he realized his big reveal was a hoax and he was gonna look like a punk.
Way too late on worrying about looking like a punk. =D
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Way too late on worrying about looking like a punk. =D
Yes it is, but it does make him look even more creepy. If this is confirmed I am sure Tucker Carlson will have a sweet Creepy Porn lawyer segment tonight. :)
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hmmmmm. This is tough. Do I trust 4chan more than I trust Avenatti? Not really... =|
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I'm kinda curious on if there is some majority political makeup on 4chan. Libertarian? Anarchist? Because it seems like their last couple of epic pranks have been aimed at lefty nutballs.
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I got the impression they just target whoever is the most trollable and that would currently be the lefty nutballs. Not really a strong political / ideological foundation behind it.
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Now the media is investigating if Kavanaugh carnally knew in high school, and when he knew it. :facepalm:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36307/desperation-media-jumps-reports-kavanaugh-told-emily-zanotti
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Now the media is investigating if Kavanaugh carnally knew in high school, and when he knew it. :facepalm:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36307/desperation-media-jumps-reports-kavanaugh-told-emily-zanotti
Last week he was a monster for being a sex maniac. This week he's a monster for being a virgin.
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2nd Kavanaugh accuser Ramirez won't speak to committee. GOP Sen. Kennedy says her lawyer told Rs, "if you want our statement, read the New Yorker.”
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/25/enjoy-this-clip-of-joe-biden-telling-clarence-thomas-that-an-fbi-report-isnt-worth-anything/
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I'll give 5 to 1 that Ford doesn't testify, or if she does there will be a lot of weasel words.
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How did the Ds dare give an inquisition to a black man. Rich, old white men against one poor black man. Supporters of the KKK to boot. How dare they.
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She's now dictating terms of press coverage. She's wanting the R's to say "No" to her crazy demands to give her an excuse to no-show.
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She's now dictating terms of press coverage. She's wanting the R's to say "No" to her crazy demands to give her an excuse to no-show.
They should accept the challenge, and just go ahead with the vote.
And McConnell should make it VERY clear to the Rs that any of them who don't vote yes won't even be able to get the time of day for the remainder of their careers.
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I think they honestly believed she/they would never have to testify, or at least didn't consider the possibility. They though that showing up with a letter, someone who had tangible ties to a general range of time/date/place, and screaming "sexual assault victim!" loudly enough would have Kavanaugh withdrawing in mere minutes. Now their bluff has been called so the only fall-back position they have is to stall, ridicule, and attempt to blame-shift.
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Sadly, rumor has it that Trump is already reassessing and looking at a backup plan. Ford is submitting three letters from friends who said she told them this happened, and this is apparently now "corroborating evidence". They need to look that term up.
Additionally, I'm not sure the R's did themselves any favors hiring a sexual assault prosecutor to run the hearing. They lose either way, since the left is already saying that hiring a "female prosecutor" is a setup against Ford, even though most sane people would look at this as a favor to Ford.
I'm beginning to expect that out of political expediency, the Trump admin will consider pulling Kavanaugh, and once again the great tragedy is that this guy's life is ruined because he is "guilty until proven innocent". That in itself is scary, because I have now heard dozens of people who took an oath to the constitution who have been pushing the "presumed guilty" narrative. That is a very slippery and dangerous slope.
If this comes to pass, I only hope they nominate a gay minority female replacement who is Scalia X100, give her one day of hearings, then vote and ram her through.
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Ben said,
I'm beginning to expect that out of political expediency, the Trump admin will consider pulling Kavanaugh, and once again the great tragedy is that this guy's life is ruined because he is "guilty until proven innocent." That in itself is scary, because I have now heard dozens of people who took an oath to the constitution who have been pushing the "presumed guilty" narrative. That is a very slippery and dangerous slope.
Gawd, I hope not. The Dems will have proven up on a new "non-parliamentary" technique for torpedoing any nominees, and put a damper on any future nominees who aren't eunichs or gay.
Stay the course, Mr. President and Judge Kavanaugh. As in fifth grade, you have to fight the bullies.
Thus keeping your lunch money for ever after.
Terry, 230RN
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Now Ford is attempting to control press access to the hearing (that she might or might not actually attend).
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/25/accuser-senate-limit-press-kavanaugh-hearing/
I find it difficult to believe that there are still a couple of Republican senators who haven't decided that it's time to quit the circus and vote Kavanaugh in if for no other reason than to send a message to the Democrats that deliberate obstructionism is not the way to run the country. The American people desrve better than this.
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Would Kavanaugh have a good case for suing Ford for defamation, and USA Today or whomever first published it for libel? The discovery phase would be interesting.
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deliberate obstructionism is not the way to run the country.
Quite the opposite in my opinion. Deliberate obstructionism is an absolute necessity in this country, it was vital during Obama's presidency, and it will likely be even more important following the midterms. It's one of the few things that the GOP has going for it in the fight against progressives.
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Quite the opposite in my opinion. Deliberate obstructionism is an absolute necessity in this country, it was vital during Obama's presidency, and it will likely be even more important following the midterms. It's one of the few things that the GOP has going for it in the fight against progressives.
Good point. To elaborate on my position, then: It's one thing to be obstructionist on the grounds that "I'm from my party, and I oppose what your party stands for so I'm going to vote against you." This charade of incremental character assassination is something characteristic of a much lower form of life than even a United States senator.
Or so I thought, but obviously I thought wrong.
I have often thought that the best possible scenario is when one party controls the House and the other party controls the Senate, and neither party has a veto-proof majority. That way, nobody can railroad anything through, so there's a least a small mathematical possibility of cross-party cooperation for the good of the country.
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Doesn't look to me like the 4chan thing with Avenatti really panned out
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/408490-avenatti-releases-clients-identity-allegations-against-kavanaugh
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/michael-avenatti-identifies-kavanaugh-accuser-as-julie-swetnick.html
A third person comes forward with sworn allegations regarding drugging of young women and gang rape.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/michael-avenatti-identifies-kavanaugh-accuser-as-julie-swetnick.html
A third person comes forward with sworn allegations regarding drugging of young women and gang rape.
"Regarding"
The allegations are that she "became aware" of him doing such things, not that she witnessed or experienced it. And then that he was "present" at a party where she was attacked. Not that he was involved, just that he was present.
At the party. That she doesn't know where it happened. After she had already seen other women get attacked at previous parties, where she's also not sure where they happened.
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https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2018/09/26/swetnickstatement.pdf
The actual affidavit. Note that she makes statements as to direct observation and witnessing of certain of the allegations, making her a direct witness, not third-hand testimony.
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https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2018/09/26/swetnickstatement.pdf
The actual affidavit. Note that she makes statements as to direct observation and witnessing of certain of the allegations, making her a direct witness, not third-hand testimony.
Credibility problems, from the New York Times of all places:
Ms. Swetnick grew up in Montgomery County, Md., graduating from Gaithersburg High School in 1980 before attending college at the University of Maryland, according to a résumé for her posted online. Judge Kavanaugh graduated from Georgetown Prep in 1983.
In her statement, Ms. Swetnick wrote that she met Judge Kavanaugh and Mr. Judge in 1980 or 1981 when she was introduced to them at a house party in the Washington area.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/us/politics/julie-swetnick-avenatti-kavenaugh.html
From her own statments, she was an adult college student, going to high school parties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw7DmRDODxQ&t=26m40s
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Will no one have a problem with the fact that she quotes multiple instances? It would imply that she saw what she now calls abhorrent behavior, but then continued to go to those same parties. If there were terrible things going on, why did she continue to participate?
If she goes with, "I was just a kid and didn't know better", so was everyone else at the parties. Kind of the two-edged sword when you start digging in to what people did while under the age of majority and then applying it to their adult lives. I guess we shouldn't seal records of crimes committed before 18 anymore either. Lets get everything out there on everybody.
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Let me be the first to predict that Judge Kavanaugh will end up withdrawing his nomination for the Court. Whether the stated reason is 'to spare his family' or 'respect for the President', or whatever, he is going to pull the plug before it actually gets to a vote, which I suspect he would lose, and that would reflect badly upon the President and the Republicans. This makes me wonder how anyone is going to possibly pass the vetting and nomination in the future. I am reminded of the saying about winning the battle and losing the war.
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Let me be the first to predict that Judge Kavanaugh will end up withdrawing his nomination for the Court. Whether the stated reason is 'to spare his family' or 'respect for the President', or whatever, he is going to pull the plug before it actually gets to a vote, which I suspect he would lose, and that would reflect badly upon the President and the Republicans. This makes me wonder how anyone is going to possibly pass the vetting and nomination in the future. I am reminded of the saying about winning the battle and losing the war.
Perhaps the President and the Republicans need to be reflected badly upon? It might encourage them to fight next time. Kavanaugh didn't volunteer for this, he was drafted.
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Perhaps the President and the Republicans need to be reflected badly upon? It might encourage them to fight next time. Kavanaugh didn't volunteer for this, he was drafted.
I think that depends on which Republican Senators have decided they can't vote for his nomination. IMO, if some of them don't want to do so, O'Connell should name names before the election and tell them he will do so.
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For those trying to quash Kavanaugh's nomination: be careful what you wish for:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/the-on-deck-justice-could-be-a-bigger-dem-problem-than-kavanaugh-kennedy
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^^^I don't know very much about her, and perhaps I should study up.
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Ford's polygraph released. A couple of points:
1) She took it in Maryland a week after she wrote Feinstein, so either she spends a lot of time driving around the country, or she flew there.
2) Apparently they let her hand write a statement, then asked her two questions on it. I don't know much about polygraphs, but I thought you had to ask a lot more questions than that to compare to the baseline questions. Which, I'm only assuming they asked baseline questions for calibration, but I'm not counting on anything in this growing fiasco.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/26/this-is-bad-looks-like-christine-blasey-fords-lawyers-just-torpedoed-her-case-by-releasing-polygraph-results-pics/
At this point, maybe just have Kavanaugh step down, nominate Amy Barrett, and say that there will be no hearings, only a vote, because we believe all women so there is no need to interview Barrett. Done. Find another female strict constitutionalist when Ginsburg steps down and repeat. Thanks Harry Reid.
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Let me be the first to predict that Judge Kavanaugh will end up withdrawing his nomination for the Court. Whether the stated reason is 'to spare his family' or 'respect for the President', or whatever, he is going to pull the plug before it actually gets to a vote, which I suspect he would lose, and that would reflect badly upon the President and the Republicans. This makes me wonder how anyone is going to possibly pass the vetting and nomination in the future. I am reminded of the saying about winning the battle and losing the war.
If he does so, it will be taken as an admission of guilt by the media and many others. People on the left thought bad things of him before and will continue to do so even if all the accusers suddenly recant and say they lied. I don't think he gains anything for himself by doing so. A target was on his back the moment he was nominated.
If this is because a few Republican Senators can't bring themselves to vote for him, nothing he does will change that. That is something O'Connell and voters need to deal with. There is no acceptable candidate that Democrats won't defame in order to block their nomination. I begin to think the only way to avoid this is to increase the majority in the Senate so they are not dependent on a couple of lightweights for enough votes.
If he is guilty and the accusations start to hit home, the damage is already done anyway.
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At this point, maybe just have Kavanaugh step down, nominate Amy Barrett, and say that there will be no hearings, only a vote, because we believe all women so there is no need to interview Barrett. Done. Find another female strict constitutionalist when Ginsburg steps down and repeat. Thanks Harry Reid.
I don't know Amy Barrett so I can't comment on that (sure I can, but I won't) But I really liked the idea of nominating Dr. Condi Rice. Maybe DJT Jr. is watching this thread and pass along the idea?
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I don't know Amy Barrett so I can't comment on that (sure I can, but I won't) But I really liked the idea of nominating Dr. Condi Rice. Maybe DJT Jr. is watching this thread and pass along the idea?
I don't know much about Condi Rice as far as her Constitutional views.
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I don't know much about Condi Rice as far as her Constitutional views.
I actually believe she's a bit squishier on some things, including the 2nd (despite the stories of her dad) than Barrett. I think I saw after one of the last shootings that Rice said we should consider EBR restrictions.
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^^^I think there is good reason why polygraphs are generally inadmissible in court. I take polygraph results with a railcar of salt. I have gone to a couple legal seminars on them over the years, and they may have some utility in the national security setting, but haven't some of the FBI/CIA Soviet moles in recent years passed their periodic polygraphs?
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^^^I think there is good reason why polygraphs are generally inadmissible in court. I take polygraph results with a railcar of salt. I have gone to a couple legal seminars on them over the years, and they may have some utility in the national security setting, but haven't some of the FBI/CIA Soviet moles in recent years passed their periodic polygraphs?
Plus, I heard it was administered in her lawyer's office which isn't exactly independent.
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^^^I think there is good reason why polygraphs are generally inadmissible in court. I take polygraph results with a railcar of salt. I have gone to a couple legal seminars on them over the years, and they may have some utility in the national security setting, but haven't some of the FBI/CIA Soviet moles in recent years passed their periodic polygraphs?
https://youtu.be/uD7n_p7zAqo?t=125
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For those trying to quash Kavanaugh's nomination: be careful what you wish for:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/the-on-deck-justice-could-be-a-bigger-dem-problem-than-kavanaugh-kennedy
That's who I was hoping for before Kavanagh got nominated. As and aside, She looks like she could be my current wife's twin.
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After the first two
allegations rumors, I'm not sure what would induce me to believe Kavanaugh is guilty of any sexual assault, of any kind, at any time.
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https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/the-pursuit-of-happiness/content/2018-09-25-friday-morning-vote-scheduled-to-advance-kavanaugh-nomination/
The Senate Judiciary Committee is planning to hold a vote on Friday morning to advance the Supreme Court nomination of Brett Kavanaugh. The vote will come just one day after Thursday's hearing to address a sexual assault allegation levied against Kavanaugh.
https://www.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-confirmation-vote-date-christine-blasey-ford-2018-9
I saw a handful of links on google saying the same. We will see.
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... assuming Ford shows up on Thursday.
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And now we're taking this kind of last minute crap seriously (NBC is already running with it):
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/26/anonymous-complaint-alleges-brett-kavanaugh-physically-assaulted-a-woman-in-1998/
I feel so sorry for this guy.
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And now it appears Avenatti's current client is a former client of Katz's.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/26/report-kavanaugh-accusers-julie-swetnick-and-christine-blasey-ford-have-an-interesting-connection/
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And now we're taking this kind of last minute crap seriously (NBC is already running with it):
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/26/anonymous-complaint-alleges-brett-kavanaugh-physically-assaulted-a-woman-in-1998/
I feel so sorry for this guy.
I really think he should sue them. Just not sure if he should wait until the confirmation hearings are over, or do it immediately. Sometimes you have to sucker-punch the bully.
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So Swetnick continued attending the parties after the age of majority, where teenage girls were allegedly gang raped? And Swetnick did not report these illegal activities that she claims to have witnessed on multiple occasions to law enforcement? I think she has some legal vulnerabilities here that she and her lawyers have not considered.
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Ford's polygraph released. A couple of points:
1) She took it in Maryland a week after she wrote Feinstein, so either she spends a lot of time driving around the country, or she flew there.
2) Apparently they let her hand write a statement, then asked her two questions on it. I don't know much about polygraphs, but I thought you had to ask a lot more questions than that to compare to the baseline questions. Which, I'm only assuming they asked baseline questions for calibration, but I'm not counting on anything in this growing fiasco.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/26/this-is-bad-looks-like-christine-blasey-fords-lawyers-just-torpedoed-her-case-by-releasing-polygraph-results-pics/
At this point, maybe just have Kavanaugh step down, nominate Amy Barrett, and say that there will be no hearings, only a vote, because we believe all women so there is no need to interview Barrett. Done. Find another female strict constitutionalist when Ginsburg steps down and repeat. Thanks Harry Reid.
It's so easy to fool a polygraph that it's a wonder they even bother any more.
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Senate judiciary committee is questioning what a 15 year old meant by writing "FFFFFourth of July" in his calendar:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/27/brett-kavanaugh-explains-fffffffourth-of-july-and-its-way-more-believable-than-michael-avenattis-version/
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[comically overdone heavy Russian accent] T-minus six minutes, and counting... [/comically overdone heavy Russian accent]
Brad
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I don't know much about Condi Rice as far as her Constitutional views.
Condi Rice is pro-abortion.
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I read that Kavanaugh missed the toilet and got some on the floor during one of those wild teenage beer parties. This obviously obviates all of his lifetime of jurisprudence. The committte must deny assent to the appointment of him to the SSSSSSSupreme Court.
The source has letters from five witnesses to his missing the toilet to document this outrageous behavior, who are all willing to take lie detector tests, and can also testify to his leaving the seat up, which is outrageously sexist.
Terry, 230RN
(Anyone can quote this anywhere without giving credit.)
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Made it through 15 minutes of the hearing and I'm done. What a *expletive deleted*it show.
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I only caught a bit, but the format where the Republicans yield their time to Prosecutor Mitchell and then after 5 minutes she has to break so a Democrat can grandstand really was not working well.
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I only caught a bit, but the format where the Republicans yield their time to Prosecutor Mitchell and then after 5 minutes she has to break so a Democrat can grandstand really was not working well.
Yup. The first thing I thought of was that it was a taxpayer funded campaign ad for a whole bunch of our elected weasels.
It appears from a couple of updates I read that things are not going well for the Rs.
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Senate judiciary committee is questioning what a 15 year old meant by writing "FFFFFourth of July" in his calendar:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/27/brett-kavanaugh-explains-fffffffourth-of-july-and-its-way-more-believable-than-michael-avenattis-version/
I'm glad he was able to explain that, because I was really worried about Brett Kavanaugh being the first justice to have ever been a teenaged boy.
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Hoo, boy ...
https://apnews.com/203cde2444124d6d92504c3a81686fa1/The-Latest:-Protesters-gather-before-Ford-Kavanaugh-hearing
12:51 p.m.
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Ford first brought her concerns privately in July to her congresswoman, Anna Eshoo. The California Democrat suggested she write the letter to Feinstein.
Ford described a “fairly brief” phone call with Feinstein once the senator had received the letter.
For says she started interviewing lawyers because the few other people she had told said she would need one.
Right. And she just coincidentally happened to wind up hiring a team (not just one lawyer) who just happen to ALL be well-connected, Democratic party apparatchiks. I find that to be entirely credible. I mean, why would that possibly strike anyone as implausible?
I dunno -- several decades ago, when I was in a situation where I thought I might need legal advice (involving a federal crime, but not perpetrated by me), I didn't "interview" a bunch of politically-connected operators. I called an attorney who had handled a personal matter for me a couple of years before, and he guided me as to what to do next. Case closed. This story reeks.
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Mitchel might be excellent at what she normally does but she was not good at whatever she was trying to do today.
Each Democrat has an excellent plan for a 5-minute round. Ms. Mitchell has no sense of time, and seems to think this is a deposition. Laughing with witness and commiserating with her at the end about how much the format sucks helps Dr. Ford's standing.
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Meanwhile, committee staff have interviewed not one, but TWO men who admit to the behavior that Dr. Ford alleges Judge Kavanaugh committed.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/27/game-over-senate-judiciary-talks-with-not-1-but-two-men-who-believe-they-had-encounter-with-ford-not-kavanaugh/
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Yup. The first thing I thought of was that it was a taxpayer funded campaign ad for a whole bunch of our elected weasels.
It appears from a couple of updates I read that things are not going well for the Rs.
I caught a few minutes of Rush today and he said the media was saying that, but he didn't think that applied to the American people. We will see.
The radio cut out of Rush a few minutes later and went full time to the hearing. I switched it off after a few minutes. It was mostly Dem Senators grandstanding.
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I'm sorry but her inability to recall key details about recent events (when was her grandmother's funeral, did she take the polygraph the same day or the next, etc..) Really calls into question the accuracy of her memory from 36 years ago...
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So she flies about every other day.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36397/watch-prosecutor-grills-christine-blasey-ford-over-ryan-saavedra
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I also heard she was not aware of the fact that the Senate Committee had offered to send people to talk to her. I get the impression she is either a bit flaky or her lawyers are the ones running the show and she is just along for the ride.
Is it relevant to ask the lawyers who is paying for their services? I really doubt she is paying them.
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For those trying to quash Kavanaugh's nomination: be careful what you wish for:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/the-on-deck-justice-could-be-a-bigger-dem-problem-than-kavanaugh-kennedy
She'll be Ginsburg's replacement. She's the one that DiFi accused of "the dogma lives loudly within you.." regarding her Catholic faith.
The only thing the Dem's could attack her on is her faith...And that won't go over well. The Red part of America won't tolerate two of Trumps SC picks being destroyed. Especially a woman. And yes, she is much more conservative the Kavanaugh. The Dem's may regret going after Kavanaugh if he's forced to withdraw/not be confirmed.
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Now that we’ve gotten rid of that whole “innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” anachronism, this should make it easier for Trump to defeat and imprison all his political enemies.
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I also heard she was not aware of the fact that the Senate Committee had offered to send people to talk to her. I get the impression she is either a bit flaky or her lawyers are the ones running the show and she is just along for the ride.
Is it relevant to ask the lawyers who is paying for their services? I really doubt she is paying them.
It was asked, who was paying for what, the lawyers with her said they're doing it pro-bono. The rest of the answer was mumbo-jumbo about "some are paying for this, some are paying for that, there's a Go Fund me account, etc." but I don't recall any specifics on who/what.
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One a scale of one to Claire Wolfe I am at about 8.5. Hard to see how this doesn't lead to the end of our struggling experiment.
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One a scale of one to Claire Wolfe I am at about 8.5. Hard to see how this doesn't lead to the end of our struggling experiment.
Word.
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One a scale of one to Claire Wolfe I am at about 8.5. Hard to see how this doesn't lead to the end of our struggling experiment.
Things are hardening, narrowing, getting sharper and coming more and more to a point.
The lines of division are getting clearer and sadly there isn’t as much common ground between the two sides as our civic religion of civic nationalism has led us to believe.
I expect a military coup in my lifetime.
Maybe it’s already in progress with Trump being their guy.
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Cory Booker asked Kavanaugh if he drank on weekdays. I so wish Kavanaugh would have answered a question with a question and asked Booker if he did Heroin on weekdays too, or just weekends.
Also Feinstein apparently made Alyssa Milano her guest at the hearing, and Milano managed to plant herself directly behind Kavanaugh in the camera view so she could make faces. I tried watching some again, and when I saw her and her stupid face, off the TV went again. I kinda hope that Hollywood celebrity thing backfires with middle America. I think even Dems in places like Iowa are sick of Hollywood patting them on the head and telling them what to do.
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Wikipedia doxxes Senate Judiciary Committee, publishes home addresses and phone numbers.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/27/senate-judiciary-committee-republicans-addresses-p/
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Wikipedia doxxes Senate Judiciary Committee, publishes home addresses and phone numbers.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/27/senate-judiciary-committee-republicans-addresses-p/
And they apparently did so from inside the House of Representatives. I'm about to agree with French on the Claire Wolfe thing.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/27/someone-was-doxxing-gop-senators-during-the-brett-kavanaugh-hearing/
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... and this sums up the situation pretty well:
https://babylonbee.com/news/success-after-a-full-day-of-hearings-everyone-believes-exactly-what-they-already-believed-about-kavanaugh
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But Lindsey Graham's righteous outrage was beautiful to behold.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/27/lindsey-graham-tears-into-democrats-over-sham-kavanaugh-hearing.html [popcorn]
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But Lindsey Graham's righteous outrage was beautiful to behold.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/27/lindsey-graham-tears-into-democrats-over-sham-kavanaugh-hearing.html [popcorn]
Even a broken clock is correct occasionally.
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Even a broken clock is correct occasionally.
I just love it when little ineffectual nice people lose their *expletive deleted*it. It entertains me.
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Ok. I don’t even know what to say.
Lyndsey Graham impressed me...
Kavanaugh may not be as squishy as I thought and might just be a regular guy as well...
I might be in Bizzaro world.
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I just love it when little ineffectual nice people lose their *expletive deleted*it. It entertains me.
True, but I refuse to give that asshat any credit for it. :cool:
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Turns out the Senate site is down (at least the comments part for my senator), in the off chance anyone wanted to voice their thoughts on this farce.
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I was impressed with Kavanaugh's testimony. I missed the Ford testimony due to work but I feel sure I will get the highlights on the news. I believe Ford is mistaken on the identity of the person she identifies as young Brett Kavanaugh and she has been essentially convincing herself of her belief for the last few weeks. So she is 100% sure. Means nothing if she has a bad memory.
I would love to see a movement nationwide with Republican and Democrat Senators alike, if you vote "No" to the confirmation, I will vote "No" relative to your re-election. I predict the WV senator votes "Yes". There may be a couple other Democrats that vote in favor of Kavanaugh. Feinstein, Booker, Blumenthal, Durbin, and others have to go to restore the democratic process or it is only going to get worse. Republicans can play this game too.
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I was impressed with Kavanaugh's testimony. I missed the Ford testimony due to work but I feel sure I will get the highlights on the news. I believe Ford is mistaken on the identity of the person she identifies as young Brett Kavanaugh and she has been essentially convincing herself of her belief for the last few weeks. So she is 100% sure. Means nothing if she has a bad memory.
Oh, I believe that she believes it. I can even believe that something like what she described actually did happen to her, maybe even multiple times with multiple attackers.
And I'm betting that that (those) traumatic experiences screwed her up pretty bad. I'm also betting that she couldn't accurately recall any of it. Memory, especially memory of trauma, is not reliable, especially decades later. She's probably distilled down a bunch of flashes and half memories into one semi coherent event, put some convenient names on it and has relived it so many times in her head that now, to her, it's real.
The really shitty thing about her is she should know better than to trust her own memories on the subject.
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But Lindsey Graham's righteous outrage was beautiful to behold.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/27/lindsey-graham-tears-into-democrats-over-sham-kavanaugh-hearing.html [popcorn]
I'm not even a Lindsey Graham hater - can't remember what we don't like about him - but true indignation is not always distinguishable from grandstanding. That being said, there should definitely have been a lot more grandstanding from our side, so good for Graham.
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I'm not even a Lindsey Graham hater - can't remember what we don't like about him - but true indignation is not always distinguishable from grandstanding. That being said, there should definitely have been a lot more grandstanding from our side, so good for Graham.
I think it was a combo. He seems like the type that has to be furious to even consider grandstanding in the first place. I wouldn't want to be the janitor that has to clean that section of the table and the mic, because I'm pretty sure he was literally spitting during that rant.
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She should have never been given a platform or legitimacy in the first place. She is a liar.
There is no case against Kavanaugh period.
She is demonstrably a Democrat partisan who even engaged in lies the week of her hearing (Fear of flying).
When is the right going to stop letting the left choose the battlefield?
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BREAKING: Swing Vote Bob Corker Says He Is A 'Yes' On Kavanaugh (https://www.dailywire.com/news/36432/breaking-kavanaugh-swing-vote-bob-corker-says-he-paul-bois)
Ya think? Do ya think so, Bob?! Do you think it's about time you stopped giving credence to these half-baked rumors?
Actually, I can see why he might think he needs to "keep an open mind" publicly, until this was all aired out. But he was wrong.
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I tend to get my news via logos, without much imago, so I didn't realize how young his daughters are. I just saw a photograph of them, and holy Moses what an awful thing for such young girls to go through. =( :mad:
She should have never been given a platform or legitimacy in the first place. She is a liar.
There is no case against Kavanaugh period.
She is demonstrably a Democrat partisan who even engaged in lies the week of her hearing (Fear of flying).
When is the right going to stop letting the left choose the battlefield?
I agree she should never have been taken seriously. But was she the one who claimed a fear of flying, or was that her handlers? She eagerly admitted today that she flies frequently.
(https://i.imgflip.com/2dpx9t.jpg)
This image is dated 3 months ago.
https://imgflip.com/i/2dpx9t
How telling is it the only "accusations" they could find were from the 80s? Even the one from the 90s fell apart within a day or two.
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After reading a whole bunch of Twitter stuff about this and getting pissed off, Sean Spicier posts this and gets me laughing.
"All of this he said she said stuff could all be avoided if women would just get back in the kitchen."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
However, I am glad Kavanaugh didn't say that. No joke (even fart jokes) would be taken as such by the media. He didn't look like he was in the mood to joke around anyway.
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I heard maybe 10 minutes total of the Ford part of the hearing. I think I heard her speak for about 12 seconds and heard Democrats grandstand for 9 minutes. Same thing for parts of the Kavanaugh questioning I heard except for his statement.
The entire hearing only accomplished putting the Democrat's hatchet job on display. I didn't hear that Ford added anything new that would prove what she is saying. It was essentially useless. What I hope happened is a lot of people who were undecided saw the crap-show and made a decision for the November election.
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https://www.full30.com/video/91a336de30ce3bab144899f89d24a338
If you need a diversion, InRangeTV has a series of videos on "What Would Stoner Do?" talking about the AR-15 and current technology compared to what Stoner was trying to do with the original Armalite. This link is one of them.
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It was a disgustingly bad soap opera. (Wife2 was a soap opera addict, so I know.)
I rarely use this one: [barf]
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Oh, I believe that she believes it. I can even believe that something like what she described actually did happen to her, maybe even multiple times with multiple attackers.
And I'm betting that that (those) traumatic experiences screwed her up pretty bad. I'm also betting that she couldn't accurately recall any of it. Memory, especially memory of trauma, is not reliable, especially decades later. She's probably distilled down a bunch of flashes and half memories into one semi coherent event, put some convenient names on it and has relived it so many times in her head that now, to her, it's real.
The really shitty thing about her is she should know better than to trust her own memories on the subject.
Memory is a funny thing. Keep in mind all the scandals about child abuse a couple of decades ago. A lot of good people were sent to prison as a result of "child advocates" knowingly or unknowingly implanting false "memories" in kids. It's called the power of suggestion. A long time ago, in a galaxy far away from this one, I had a marriage and family counseling practice, and I also did therapeutic hypnosis. The human mind is really a very malleable and fallible thing. Any half decent hypnotist can get someone to believe something that never happened, and they can make someone forget what happened five minutes ago.
The fact that Ms. Ford's memories "clarified" after multiple sessions with her handlers lawyers doesn't carry any water with me. That's no different from all those child advocates implanting and cementing false memories in the past. Think about documented cases in which police have convinced people to confess to crimes that were later proven to have been committed by someone else.
Same thing for her lie detector test. I know how easy it is to completely invalidate a lie detector test. And, from what I've read, her lie detector test wasn't a legitimate, neutral, objective lie detector test anyway, it was set up to "prove" that she was telling the truth. And remember, too, that when someone "remembers" something that didn't happen, to them it IS the truth, even though it's factually incorrect.
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Oh, I believe that she believes it. I can even believe that something like what she described actually did happen to her, maybe even multiple times with multiple attackers.
And I'm betting that that (those) traumatic experiences screwed her up pretty bad. I'm also betting that she couldn't accurately recall any of it. Memory, especially memory of trauma, is not reliable, especially decades later. She's probably distilled down a bunch of flashes and half memories into one semi coherent event, put some convenient names on it and has relived it so many times in her head that now, to her, it's real.
The really shitty thing about her is she should know better than to trust her own memories on the subject.
I have to agree.
A few years back at one of my MP Company's reunion, I was telling a story about incident X, involving two of my soldiers. Soldier A and Soldier B. When I was about half way through, Soldier B says "That wasn't me." (Soldier A was not present at the reunion).
Me: Sure it was, you and Soldier A were always together, on and off duty.
Soldier B: Sir, I'm sorry, but I wasn't there for that, as much as I would love to say I was. Sorry sir, it wasn't me.
Me: ???
And couple years later, at a different reunion Soldier C says, "Hey sir, remember the time me and Soldier A did incident X and you saved our bacon with the commander."
Me: !!!! So it was you !!!
Now, for 20+ years if you would have put me on the stand and asked me under oath, "Who were the two soldiers involved in incident X ?" I would have said, without hesitation, and being 100% confident, that it was Soldiers A and B. And I would have been completely (well, maybe not completely but at least 50%) wrong.
So I do feel sorry for her if what she claims happened, happened. However, I think it's totally plausible that once Kavanaugh's name bubbled up in the 2012 election as a potential Romney pick for SCOTUS, that she latched onto that name as her attacker.
And has convinced herself that he's the guy.
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Even if true, two drunken teenagers and an unsuccessful attempt at copping a feel over 3 decades ago is not a sufficient basis to destroy a career.
Stop white knighting for the immoral political operative that is attempting to destroy a mans career over what is essentially a typical object lesson of what happens when you exercise poor judgement as a teen. Hopefully she taught her children to exercise better judgement than she did.
The only person we know was there for sure is her.
I believe Kavanaugh.
This is a political hit job and protestations to the contrary are just rationalizations excusing the attempted destruction of the man for political purposes, not justice.
No presumption of innocence and (even if he was guilty) the imposed punishment is cruel and unusual in light of the alleged crime.
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Defamation suits for everyone. Let's subpeona bank records, should be fun.
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Defamation suits for everyone. Let's subpeona bank records, should be fun.
We can only hope.
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Even if true, two drunken teenagers and an unsuccessful attempt at copping a feel over 3 decades ago is not a sufficient basis to destroy a career.
Lying about it repeatedly under oath would be.
I don't understand why people feel the need to go down the road of defending this "even if true", it never ends up looking good.
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My wife summed everything up very well last night.
She said, " there are a lot of victims in this wreck, but the democrats were driving."
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Lying about it repeatedly under oath would be.
I don't understand why people feel the need to go down the road of defending this "even if true", it never ends up looking good.
Because we have lost perspective.
What is being alleged is not even a deal breaker in a sane society.
Drunken teenagers do stupid *expletive deleted*it and we don’t hold them to the same accountability as we do adults except in egregious cases of violent crime.
If women want to be equal then the standards of proof for allegations must be the same as it is for men.
We have given an active Democrat partisan the power to upend our whole confirmation process based on nothing, because she is a woman.
I agree the “even if” isn’t the right play for those actually in the fight, but it needs to be addressed around the margins because what is being allowed is insanity.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/27/breaking-we-have-the-votes-n2523402
Townhall reporting he has the votes to get out of committee and to be confirmed.
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it needs to be addressed around the margins because what is being allowed is insanity.
We got to the point where (I think it was Booker) a dem interrogated Kavanaugh about a fart joke in his yearbook and what that really meant. A fart joke from a 16 year old.
Our elected officials, in Washington DC, the capitol of the United States of America, were interrogating an appointee to the Supreme Court of the United States about a fart joke written by a teenager in a High School yearbook. It is a practically unbelievable scenario.
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The other real tragedy is no "good man and true" will probably ever accept a nomination again, even if he were clean as a whistle.
Assent of the Senate indeed. What a farce it has become.
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We got to the point where (I think it was Booker) a dem interrogated Kavanaugh about a fart joke in his yearbook and what that really meant. A fart joke from a 16 year old.
Our elected officials, in Washington DC, the capitol of the United States of America, were interrogating an appointee to the Supreme Court of the United States about a fart joke written by a teenager in a High School yearbook. It is a practically unbelievable scenario.
Wasn't it a "*expletive deleted*ck you" joke rather than a fart joke? Or were there two such interrogations and I missed one?
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Wasn't it a "*expletive deleted*ck you" joke rather than a fart joke? Or were there two such interrogations and I missed one?
Kavanaugh said it was related to farts. "Ralphing" was also questioned. I saw Vox and others are defining the various words in their own way, using the Urban Dictionary and such, which of course covers what various terms mean to urban kids now, not what they meant to suburban kids then.
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Surprisingly to me, Jeff Flake is voting yes.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/28/jeff-flakes-statement-of-kavanaugh-support-shreds-judiciary-committee-dems-presumed-guilty-rule/
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The only person we know was there for sure is her.
We don't even know for sure that she was there. Even she doesn't remember where "there" was, or when "then" was. Yet we're supposed to believe her despite Kavanaugh having produced a daily calendar/diary that curously doesn't have any entries mentioning a party such as she described.
Sorry, but that dawg don't hunt.
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We don't even know for sure that she was there. Even she doesn't remember where "there" was, or when "then" was. Yet we're supposed to believe her despite Kavanaugh having produced a daily calendar/diary that curously doesn't have any entries mentioning a party such as she described.
Sorry, but that dawg don't hunt.
Touché
She has less than nothing
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Wasn't it a "*expletive deleted*ck you" joke rather than a fart joke? Or were there two such interrogations and I missed one?
Yes, he was questioned about both in his yearbook. I know that if someone pulled out my yearbooks (or yearbooks I signed), I would be highly embarrassed.
"Senator, let me save you and the rest of the committee a great deal of time. If you have any questions about me from age 13-17, my response will be 'That was really stupid on my part. I was a teenager and immature.' That answer will save everyone a lot of time and embarrassment.
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Mark Judge sends another letter to Congress, swearing to the fact that he never witnessed the event in question, nor Kavanaugh act in such a manner.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2018/09/28/mark-judge-prompted-to-send-new-letter-to-the-committee-n2523525
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On the yearbook, my mistake - it was Whitehouse, not Booker, and apparently he is still deconstructing it this morning:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/28/wtf-sen-whitehouse-continues-mind-boggling-analysis-of-brett-kavanaughs-high-school-yearbook/
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/27/cnns-tapper-there-is-no-corroborating-evidence-for-any-of-the-kavanaugh-allegations-n2523160
There are no corroborative witnesses to verify this claim that is nearly 40 years old. Ford alleges that a drunken 17-year-old Kavanaugh tried to rape her at a house party, a party where she can’t remember the time, place, location, or how she got there. These allegations are nowhere near credible, despite what Democrats say. The witness affidavits Ford’s lawyers turned over are not corroborative either. CNN’s Jake Tapper aptly noted prior to the hearing that there’s no evidence to back any of Ford’s accusations.
For CNN to admit that there's no evidence means there really is NO evidence.
That leaves us with Deborah Ramirez, who says Kavanaugh exposed himself at a Yale college party, and Julie Swentick, who says Kavanaugh was part of a gang-rape ring in high school. Her charge is the most ludicrous. Again, all three have zero evidence and witnesses to corroborate these serious allegations, but Swetnick might be the most far-fetched, namely that she was a college-aged woman who hung out with kids from high school, reportedly witnessed all of this debauchery, including possible gang rapes, and then went back 10 times and didn’t tell anyone about it until now. It’s as shoddy as they come
^^^ This. In spades.
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She should have never been given a platform or legitimacy in the first place. She is a liar.
There is no case against Kavanaugh period.
She is demonstrably a Democrat partisan who even engaged in lies the week of her hearing (Fear of flying).
When is the right going to stop letting the left choose the battlefield?
Oh, I think Ford believes what she said. The think there is a flawed case against Kavanaugh. It is just these things were supposed to happen when he was in high school and his record since is pretty spotless. I see no justification to make a "case" at this point. But it was made a case and as expected things broke down along party lines. The committee Democrats were ALWAYS going to vote NO. They are just using this as their justification.
The real issue is Kavanaugh's judicial philopophy which is not progressive or leaning toward "legislating from the bench". I never actually heard the words spoken, but I believe Kavanaugh believes strongly against legal abortions except in extreme cases.
The Republicans and Democrats are falling into their party pattern with the committee votes which is supposed to be held at 1:30 ET today. Glad Flake is vote "Yes".
Thought I would add this.... my Sister's daughter was raped in one of those high school parties around DC. They prosecuted the stupid kid.
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I can see it now - Brett Kavanaugh: the Graphic Novel. A sordid tale of gang rape, feel-coppings, attempted murder, and deadly-serious flatulence jokes. Then, after he's cut a swath through the traumatized party girls, thoroughly impressed all and sundry in the legal system, and coached girls' sports teams; Spartacus and Di-Fi arrive to bring him to justice.
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Well, it appears Flake lived up to his name. Now, after consulting with dems, he wants an FBI investigation.
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Well, it appears Flake lived up to his name. Now, after consulting with dems, he wants an FBI investigation.
Wanting it both ways. Votes Yes in committee to confirm, then calls for FBI before full Senate vote. Weasel. He stands for nothing.
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Well, it appears Flake lived up to his name. Now, after consulting with dems, he wants an FBI investigation.
Yup. He voted BK out of committee, which I think was a party-line vote, but he's wanting McConnell to get the FBI to spend a week investigating these specious allegations.
How many more rumors will have been floated a week from now?
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Oh, man, that is so appropriate.
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"You might want to put some ice on that."
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McConnell will probably take a head count (vote count) and see where things stand in the general Senate without Flake's vote. His vote may not matter.
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Yup. He voted BK out of committee, which I think was a party-line vote, but he's wanting McConnell to get the FBI to spend a week investigating these specious allegations.
How many more rumors will have been floated a week from now?
To be fair, they will then have to give time for an FBI investigation for the new rumor, then another will pop up, repeat, rinse. etc, etc
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So, another week of the talking heads spouting "Kavanaugh kavanaugh kavanaugh"
Maybe the Dems think it's like Beatlejuice, if they say it enough times magical proof of him being a rapist will appear.
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Well, the FBI should decline any request for an investigation. Is Kavanaugh alleged to have committed a federal crime? No! Then the FBI should say no! They've also already vetted him up to 6 times. If the Dems wanted an FBI more thorough background investigation, they should have requested it months ago, and the answer should be No! again. Why should Kavanaugh be subjected to another background investigation when the D's obviously committed mis or non feasance with respect to that.
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Well, the FBI should decline any request for an investigation. Is Kavanaugh alleged to have committed a federal crime? No! Then the FBI should say no! They've also already vetted him up to 6 times. If the Dems wanted an FBI more thorough background investigation, they should have requested it months ago, and the answer should be No! again.
"Dear Honorable Representative,
We appreciate your request for a background check on SCOTUS candidate B. Kavanaugh. However, there are six background checks on file for Mr. Kavanaugh. If you are too dumb to read those already extant then we seriously doubt a seventh is going to help. Screw off and stop wasting our time.
Sincerely,
The FBI"
The LOL would be mighty.
Brad
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"Dear Honorable Representative,
We appreciate your request for a background check on SCOTUS candidate B. Kavanaugh. However, there are six background checks on file for Mr. Kavanaugh. If you are too dumb to read those already extant then we seriously doubt a seventh is going to help. Screw off and stop wasting our time.
Sincerely,
The FBI"
The LOL would be mighty.
Brad
And again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x75bh659Cfw
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When the FBI comes up dry again, will it be "Trump's FBI"?
The President has directed the FBI to investigate (investigate what, I don't know). I would like to think that means they can get right into it, and report their findings early in the week. If the alleged victims will cooperate. ;/
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Oh, now that Flake flaked and caved and started this whole FBI thing, the left is thanking him by calling him a "rape apologist".
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There is still time to snatch defeat out of the hands of victory!
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Well, the FBI should decline any request for an investigation. Is Kavanaugh alleged to have committed a federal crime? No! Then the FBI should say no! They've also already vetted him up to 6 times. If the Dems wanted an FBI more thorough background investigation, they should have requested it months ago, and the answer should be No! again. Why should Kavanaugh be subjected to another background investigation when the D's obviously committed mis or non feasance with respect to that.
That assumes that the investigation would only repeat work already done, which I've read only went back to 18. If they want to go further back, that would be additional work, but is non-standard work and would have to be requested as such.
I'd compare it to a standard "X point inspection" being the background checks, but now they're asking that the fuel system be specifically investigated. Or maybe check the bumper to make sure that nobody stashed bricks of cocaine in it. The X point inspection should catch any potential problems, but this would be like seeing some potential problem that the inspection didn't catch, so look closer.
I'll point out that I don't think that having the professionals take a closer look is a bad thing.
That said, the accusations against Kavanaugh add up to a whole lot of nothing. We have a lack of collaboration, the best another "witness" has is that he attended a party where rapes might of occurred, but it reads like the whole Rolling Stones accusation.
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Well, the FBI should decline any request for an investigation. Is Kavanaugh alleged to have committed a federal crime? No! Then the FBI should say no! They've also already vetted him up to 6 times. If the Dems wanted an FBI more thorough background investigation, they should have requested it months ago, and the answer should be No! again. Why should Kavanaugh be subjected to another background investigation when the D's obviously committed mis or non feasance with respect to that.
^^^ All this. On top of all the above, exactly what can an FBI investigation turn up? The woman can't remember where it [allegedly] happened or when it [allegedly] happened. There is no physical evidence to be found after forty years. Every purported witness she has named has already said it didn't happen. What's left to "investigate"?
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If they interview Ford and she says things that contradict her testimony in front of the committee is that enough to charge her with something?
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Oh, now that Flake flaked and caved and started this whole FBI thing, the left is thanking him by calling him a "rape apologist".
Makes me wonder just what dirt they dredged up on Flake.
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^^^ All this. On top of all the above, exactly what can an FBI investigation turn up? The woman can't remember where it [allegedly] happened or when it [allegedly] happened. There is no physical evidence to be found after forty years. Every purported witness she has named has already said it didn't happen. What's left to "investigate"?
That's why Kavanaugh told the Democrats to just ask questions (that's the investigation) as that is precisely what the FBI will do. It will be interesting what the FBI turns up.... he said, she said, they said.... no conclusions.
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https://www.dangerous.com/49836/records-show-dr-ford-is-not-a-licensed-psychologist-may-have-committed-perjury/
Might a new FBI investigation look into this, or the money, or the connections between lawyers & accusers that seem a little too coincidental?
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Even if it were officially proven that she perjured herself in her testimony before the Senate, Ford would never be prosecuted. Not gonna happen.
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Even if it were officially proven that she perjured herself in her testimony before the Senate, Ford would never be prosecuted. Not gonna happen.
I agree.
I wonder if the university she works for would care whether Ford is a licensed psychologist.
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Just heard on the teevee: Feinstein is the one who recommended Ford's attorneys to her. I would likely interpret that as "set her up with attorneys".
CA professors generally just break the six figure salary mark, but I think what these particular attorneys charge requires a seven figure salary, or benefactors. As others, I would really like to see who the benefactors are, besides the Gofundme site, which in itself will probably make Ford quite a bundle.
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I wonder if the university she works for would care whether Ford is a licensed psychologist.
If I read the story right, the University immediately edited her web page, so I'm going to say they will protect her.
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Another article (citing an actual expert on memory) that explains how Ford (or Kavanaugh, but Ford doesn't have a calendar/diary to support her version) can be sincere and wrong at the same time.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kavanaugh-hearing-very-very-certain-wrong-202229531.html
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Prepare for the "old white guy buddies" charge when the FBI investigation produces nothing (as outlined by Joe Biden):
Now that Flake has made his support contingent upon an FBI Investigation, worth noting FBI Director Chris Wray was two years behind Kavanaugh at Yale and Yale Law, where they both entered into the same conservative legal circles that would land them in the Bush Admininstration.
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And now Kavanaugh is a pedophile.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/28/how-low-can-they-possibly-go-usa-today-get-nuked-for-running-truly-evil-hit-on-brett-kavanaugh/
Just so I don't have to write it every time, please assume that any of my posts related to Kavanaugh include, "Man do I feel sorry for this guy. His life has been ruined no matter the outcome of all this."
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Is it the lefts plan to push so hard that somebody on the right cracks and commits violence?
Personally, the propaganda is so over the top I can’t even get worked up over it anymore.
I’m in a state of perpetual wtf?
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In a perfect world the FBI would come back with "After a thorough additional investigation we find no information not already addressed in previous background checks with regard to Mr. Kavanaugh. However, we do find inconsistencies with regard to Ms. Ford. In order, they are... "
Brad
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In a perfect world the FBI would come back with "After a thorough additional investigation we find no information not already addressed in previous background checks with regard to Mr. Kavanaugh. However, we do find inconsistencies with regard to Ms. Ford. In order, they are... "
Brad
If that were to happen:
Out: We need the FBI to conduct a fair and thorough investigation. It's what the people demand. How can reasonable people be against this?
In: TRUMP'S GESTAPO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just who in the FBI is tasked with the investigation of this horrific crime by Kavanaugh and the subsequent coverup of his malicious behavior toward women?
Do you really expect the patriarchy to give Ms. Ford the justice she deserves?
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If the FBI doesn't have agents they can spare for this, maybe they can call back McCabe and Strzok to look into it. I'm sure they'd be fair and impartial.
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If the FBI doesn't have agents they can spare for this, maybe they can call back McCabe and Strzok to look into it. I'm sure they'd be fair and impartial.
Dig up Zombie Inspector Erskine;
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Curious...
The Washington Times recently ran an article about Corey Booker confessing to forcing unwanted sexual contact on a girl.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/20/cory-bookers-1992-column-detailing-groping-high-sc/
Yet, virtually nothing is being said about this.
Where are the women protesting outside his door, calling for his resignation?
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Curious...
The Washington Times recently ran an article about Corey Booker confessing to forcing unwanted sexual contact on a girl.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/20/cory-bookers-1992-column-detailing-groping-high-sc/
Yet, virtually nothing is being said about this.
Where are the women protesting outside his door, calling for his resignation?
Departacus does not have his hand on the abortion machine off switch.
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To be fair, they will then have to give time for an FBI investigation for the new rumor, then another will pop up, repeat, rinse. etc, etc
We all saw that coming, including most of the Committee members. I propose a formal name for it: The Christine Ford Gambit. Or Ploy. Whichever.
And it does not matter what the FBI comes up with or even if it declines to "investigate" (again). The delay's the thing.
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And now Kavanaugh is a pedophile.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/28/how-low-can-they-possibly-go-usa-today-get-nuked-for-running-truly-evil-hit-on-brett-kavanaugh/
Just so I don't have to write it every time, please assume that any of my posts related to Kavanaugh include, "Man do I feel sorry for this guy. His life has been ruined no matter the outcome of all this."
From Twitter person:
"Lying about him being an alcoholic gang rapist isn't cutting it. Let's insinuate he's a pedophile." - USA Today
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ACLU comes out in favor of guilty until proven innocent:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/29/aclu-issues-statement-opposing-brett-kavanaugh-because-of-credible-allegations-of-sexual-assault/
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And now headlines saying the female friend does not refute the assault and believes her, but if you actually read the new letter the friends attorney sent she still says she doesn’t remember the party and doesn’t know Kavanaugh, so yes she does still refute it. ;/
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This is actually an interesting point. I did not realize the age difference between Kavanaugh and Ford. Again, I'm close to the same era as Kavanaugh, and I certainly remember Senior girls would rarely hang with Sophomore or Freshman guys. The reverse maybe, but older girls with younger guys? Great way to get labeled a loser. It may be different now, but it was certainly considered uncool then. About one grade up or down was considered kinda okay.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/29/catholic-university-dean-suspended-after-tweet-about-kavanaugh-accuser-deletes-social-media-accounts/
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Make no mistake. I'm fully on Kavanaugh's side. But, I fear that the Left is going to ruin him in his chosen profession. If he is forced to find another occupation, I wonder if he might find he has some aptitude operating, say... a bulldozer? ;/
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Sooooo, once the FBI finds nothing to corroborate her story, will the D's then say "Our Bad" and vote to confirm him ??
I know if I was a Senator, I would be in the well of the Senate making just such a speech.
My Fellow Senators, you've had your FBI investigation as you wished, it was unable to find any witnesses or corroborating evidence against Judge Kavanaugh. Since he has been proven innocent (edit: Yeah, I know, but you have to fight fire with fire), I expect all of you to vote to confirm a innocent man whose name has been drug through the mud simply for political purposes.
If you are unable to vote for this accomplished, experienced jurist, you simply prove that you have no sense of morals, no sense of decency. This man has endure everything thrown against him, he has earned your vote today.
I would also be interested/hopeful that the FBI interviews the two that claim that they actually did assault Dr. Ford.
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Sooooo, once the FBI finds nothing to corroborate her story, will the D's then say "Our Bad" and vote to confirm him ??
I know if I was a Senator, I would be in the well of the Senate making just such a speech.
My Fellow Senators, you've had your FBI investigation as you wished, it was unable to find any witnesses or corroborating evidence against Judge Kavanaugh. Since he has been proven innocent (edit: Yeah, I know, but you have to fight fire with fire), I expect all of you to vote to confirm a innocent man whose name has been drug through the mud simply for political purposes.
If you are unable to vote for this accomplished, experienced jurist, you simply prove that you have no sense of morals, no sense of decency. This man has endure everything thrown against him, he has earned your vote today.
I would also be interested/hopeful that the FBI interviews the two that claim that they actually did assault Dr. Ford.
Yeah, right. You know as well as anybody this was just a means to an end.
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At the end of 7 days my prediction is the FBI says we can’t prove Kavanuagh did any of the things he has been accused of or at least the statements they report will stay the same. The MSM and Dens will claim Kavanaugh can’t prove he didn’t do any of these things so he is obviously guilty and we will be back at square one. Due Process and rule of law is out the window for anyone on the so called right of US Politics.
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Sooooo, once the FBI finds nothing to corroborate her story, will the D's then say "Our Bad" and vote to confirm him ??
I know if I was a Senator, I would be in the well of the Senate making just such a speech.
My Fellow Senators, you've had your FBI investigation as you wished, it was unable to find any witnesses or corroborating evidence against Judge Kavanaugh. Since he has been proven innocent (edit: Yeah, I know, but you have to fight fire with fire), I expect all of you to vote to confirm a innocent man whose name has been drug through the mud simply for political purposes.
If you are unable to vote for this accomplished, experienced jurist, you simply prove that you have no sense of morals, no sense of decency. This man has endure everything thrown against him, he has earned your vote today.
I would also be interested/hopeful that the FBI interviews the two that claim that they actually did assault Dr. Ford.
Don't hold your breath.
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Yale Classmate:
I saw him drink heavily, more to impress the boys then to impress the girls. I never saw him be sexually aggressive.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/28/boom-yale-classmate-tries-dunking-on-brett-kavanaugh-over-beer-ends-up-clearing-him-of-sexually-aggressive-behavior-instead/
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This is actually an interesting point. I did not realize the age difference between Kavanaugh and Ford. Again, I'm close to the same era as Kavanaugh, and I certainly remember Senior girls would rarely hang with Sophomore or Freshman guys. The reverse maybe, but older girls with younger guys? Great way to get labeled a loser. It may be different now, but it was certainly considered uncool then. About one grade up or down was considered kinda okay.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/09/29/catholic-university-dean-suspended-after-tweet-about-kavanaugh-accuser-deletes-social-media-accounts/
Not Ford. Ford is 2 or 3 years younger than Kavanaugh. The "older woman" is Swetnick.
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Make no mistake. I'm fully on Kavanaugh's side. But, I fear that the Left is going to ruin him in his chosen profession. If he is forced to find another occupation, I wonder if he might find he has some aptitude operating, say... a bulldozer? ;/
Helicopter pilot. >:D
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Not Ford. Ford is 2 or 3 years younger than Kavanaugh. The "older woman" is Swetnick.
Ah, my mistake. It says Swetnick several times right in the article. My brain is getting old. :laugh:
The rule of the time still applies though, and here's some more interesting background on Swetnick. I think I may have worked with her under a different name. We had an admin assistant who sued the Navy (civilian employee) for sexual harassment, settled the suit with the usual "can't talk about it" clause, but continually bragged about how she stuck it to the Navy. At the same time, she could get pretty handsy in the crotchal area of a guy standing around minding his own business. Sued us over sexual harassment (the boss was making her show up for work) with an out of court settlement as well. Swetnick sounds just like her.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/30/kavanaugh-accuser-julie-swetnick-faced-own-misconduct-allegations-at-past-job-with-tech-firm-reports.html
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There seems to be a desire on the left to hold on to the chivalrous delusion that women are naturally more morally upright and trustworthy.
If there is one good thing to come out of progressivism it is the ongoing wholesale destruction of chivalry and romantic “love”.
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More on Ms. Swetnick:
https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2018/09/julie_swetnick_one_of_kavanaug.html
Hmmm ...
In the suit, Webtrends alleged Swetnick claimed to have graduated from Johns Hopkins University but the company said it subsequently learned the school had no record of her attendance. Webtrends said she also "falsely described her work experience" at a prior employer.
The suit also alleges Swetnick "engaged in unwelcome, sexually offensive conduct" while at Webtrends and "made false and retaliatory allegations that other co-workers had engaged in inappropriate conduct toward her."
The suit alleges Swetnick "engaged in unwelcome sexual innuendo and inappropriate conduct" directed at two male employees during a business lunch, with Webtrends customers present. Swetnick claimed two other employees had sexually harassed her, according to the suit.
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I think the Febbies already ruled out Swetnick as "credible". Due to her claims of going to ~10 gang rape parties, as an adult, that she claims Kavanaugh attended, but he didn't participate in the gang-rapes, that she didn't report, but she kept going to.
If they do send anyone to interview her, it will probably be the guy that just graduated last in his FLETC/Febbie class.
I want to see if Ramirez actually swears out a statement under penalty of felony perjury...
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Grassley bitch-slaps Bernie Sanders...
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2018/09/30/epic-takedown-chuck-grassley-dismantles-bernie-sanders-over-his-glaring-kavanaugh-hypocrisy/
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There is no Plan "B", it's game on.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/30/white-house-source-to-axios-were-gonna-make-them-fcking-vote-on-brett-kavanaugh/
I will point out that I'm impressed that (some) R's have grown a bit of backbone; Grassley, Hatch, and Graham; in telling the D's to pound sand.
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If he [Kavanaugh] doesn’t make it and the Senate flips, I think it's 4-4 for next two years.”
Well...........maybe. It could easily be a 4-3 court at any point.
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Well...........maybe. It could easily be a 4-3 court at any point.
There are 5(+) vulnerable Senate seats, all held by D's in states that went for Trump. Flipping the Senate would be a reach.
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There are 5(+) vulnerable Senate seats, all held by He's in states that want for Trump. Flipping the Senate would be a reach.
Are you taking into account the turbo charged, nitro fueled, rocket powered fraud machine?
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And Ford's gofundme is over a half million ...
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And Ford's gofundme is over a half million ...
That's only one of them, the one for her "security" is over 200K.
bob
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And Ford's gofundme is over a half million ...
Trump is creating more wealth on the left than Obama ever did. And the beauty is that it's the left's own money.
I would be very interested to see how the money made for these gofundme millionaires, supposedly for their legal fees, etc., is spent. I thought Ford's legal fees were covered by leftist organizations, so what's the half a million bones for?
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Are you taking into account the turbo charged, nitro fueled, rocket powered fraud machine?
Those are in Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and California. Not so much in Indiana, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Wisconsin, and Missouri. Ohio, Pennsylvania, and the 2nd Minnesota seat could also flip, but they are long shots.
Strict photo ID required: Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin.
Strict non-photo ID required: Arizona and Ohio.
Non-Strict photo ID required: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Texas.
Non-Strict non-photo ID required: Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Washington.
No ID required to vote at ballot box: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
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Trump is creating more wealth on the left than Obama ever did. And the beauty is that it's the left's own money.
I would be very interested to see how the money made for these gofundme millionaires, supposedly for their legal fees, etc., is spent. I thought Ford's legal fees were covered by leftist organizations, so what's the half a million bones for?
Walking around money?
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Walking around money?
I'd chip in a few bucks for "going away money."
I wonder how many GoFundMe beneficiaries got a wake-up tax bill from the IRS. And when?
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The Dems are apparently outspending Rs in every possible medium here in Colorado. You can't pick up a net video around here any more without a listen-to-the-whole-ad-whether-you-like-it-or-not for the Governor's race.
What really ticks me off in this whole mess is limiting the number of otherwise fully-qualified candidates for appointments. Who the hell else would accept a nomination, 100% straight arrow and all saintly and sinless or not?
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At the end of 7 days my prediction is the FBI says we can’t prove Kavanuagh did any of the things he has been accused of or at least the statements they report will stay the same. The MSM and Dens will claim Kavanaugh can’t prove he didn’t do any of these things so he is obviously guilty and we will be back at square one. Due Process and rule of law is out the window for anyone on the so called right of US Politics.
It's not happening to pickup any D votes. It's to appease / give cover for the squishy Rs so they can try to have it both ways - after a week they can say everything has been properly and thoroughly investigated and then vote yes (or that's the hope anyway).
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The squishy Republicans are looking for cover to scuttle the nomination.
The squishy Republicans are leftists and don’t want to empower the right, not even the milk toast conserve nothing Republicans.
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It's not happening to pickup any D votes. It's to appease / give cover for the squishy Rs so they can try to have it both ways - after a week they can say everything has been properly and thoroughly investigated and then vote yes (or that's the hope anyway).
Yep, the D's have already moved the goalposts; saying that one week is simply not enough time; the investigation is a farce; plus he was angry and upset during his testimony, showing a lack of temperament needed to be a justice...etc.
I hope someone (Lindsey Graham maybe ?!?!) will call them on it.
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Is anybody here old enough to remember that sorority party at Stanford in 1954 when Dianne Goldman (Di Fi's maiden name) got drunk and was making out with Hilda Isenberg when Hilda was too sloshed to resist? It caused Hilda to resign from the sorority and to change universities.
Everyone knew about it at the time. It was talked about on the campus for weeks.
I don't know the date or the name of the sorority, or even if Hilda Isenberg was the name of the victim ... but I'm positive it happened.
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Make no mistake. I'm fully on Kavanaugh's side. But, I fear that the Left is going to ruin him in his chosen profession. If he is forced to find another occupation, I wonder if he might find he has some aptitude operating, say... a bulldozer? ;/
(https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2017/06/killdozer_footage_fb.jpg?resize=542%2C305)
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I'm sure all of you have been thinking the exact same thing that I have through this whole circus:
"But what does James Comey think about it???"
:laugh:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/opinion/james-comey-fbi-kavanaugh-investigation.html
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There seems to be a desire on the left to hold on to the chivalrous delusion that women are naturally more morally upright and trustworthy.
Social conservatives absolutely believe this also! :facepalm:
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The squishy Republicans are looking for cover to scuttle the nomination.
The squishy Republicans are leftists and don’t want to empower the right, not even the milk toast conserve nothing Republicans.
I was wondering how much of it was backroom politics. Flake realizes he was the deciding vote so he tries to play sides for extra favors.
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There are 5(+) vulnerable Senate seats, all held by D's in states that went for Trump. Flipping the Senate would be a reach.
A coworker just said at lunch that he told his wife they are voting this time around. He was disgusted by the hearings and what the Democrats are doing. I wonder how many people in those states are making the same decision.
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A coworker just said at lunch that he told his wife they are voting this time around. He was disgusted by the hearings and what the Democrats are doing. I wonder how many people in those states are making the same decision.
Three women in my office were horrified by the evil, evil rapist Kavanaugh. I had to close my office door.
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Democratic operatives now agree Ford has no case:
“An allegation standing alone is not necessarily sufficient to conclude that conduct occurred, particularly where the accusing party declines to produce supporting evidence that she herself asserts exists,”
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/01/unsubstantiated-you-say-minn-dems-just-torpedoed-the-case-against-brett-kavanaugh/
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Social conservatives absolutely believe this also! :facepalm:
Not this one.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.
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Democratic operatives now agree Ford has no case:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/01/unsubstantiated-you-say-minn-dems-just-torpedoed-the-case-against-brett-kavanaugh/
Well! I guess "She must be believed" didn't last long, did it?
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She must be believed ... if she is accusing a conservative.
If she's accusing a liberal, she's a lying little tramp.
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And now Joohn Brennan decided he needs to weigh in. How many more has-beens do we need to hear from? Does Brennan have a gofundme that he needs to advertise for or something?
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/01/just-how-drunk-was-john-brennan-when-he-shared-these-key-takeaways-from-kavanaugh-hearings/
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Key takeaways this week: Dr. Ford is a national treasure; Sen. Jeff Flake is an admirable man with a conscience, while craven politician Lindsey Graham is not; Kavanaugh’s temperament and blatant partisanship are disqualifying of a Supreme Court seat.
Now who can argue with that? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKXthZhufwQ)
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Those are in Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and California. Not so much in Indiana, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Wisconsin, and Missouri. Ohio, Pennsylvania, and the 2nd Minnesota seat could also flip, but they are long shots.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
Must be dated, Iowa requires ID at the polls now.
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From the comments: "The only 'takeaway' is Brennan's security clearance."
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Interesting map cited by charby from Amy Schumer, Reply #450 above.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
There seems to be a connection between laxity of ID and strictness of ID versus leftish and rightish states.
Not that correlation means causation, but it's fun to think of which "caused" which.
Did laxness of voting ID "cause" leftyness, or did leftyness "cause" lax voting requirements.
Not a realistic model, but fun to play with.
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More about Julie Swetnick:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-kavanaugh-accuser-julie-swetnick-backtracks-on-some-claims-in-extensive-nbc-news-interview/
The FBI should have a lot of fun with her.
Swetnick also responded to reports on lawsuits filed against her by her former employer, and a restraining order filed against her by an ex-boyfriend.
She provided four names to NBC News that she said could confirm her descriptions of the parties in the 1980s. NBC News contacted all four: one said they did not remember a Julie Swetnick, one was dead, and two did not respond, per Snow.
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Must be dated, Iowa requires ID at the polls now.
Their definition of Strict vs. Non-Strict:
Non-strict: At least some voters without acceptable identification have an option to cast a ballot that will be counted without further action on the part of the voter. For instance, a voter may sign an affidavit of identity, or poll workers may be permitted to vouch for the voter. In some of the “non-strict” states (Colorado, Florida, Montana, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah and Vermont), voters who do not show required identification may vote on a provisional ballot. After the close of Election Day, election officials will determine (via a signature check or other verification) whether the voter was eligible and registered, and therefore whether the provisional ballot should be counted. No action on the part of the voter is required. In New Hampshire, election officials will send a letter to anyone who signed a challenged voter affidavit because they did not show an ID, and these voters must return the mailing, confirming that they are indeed in residence as indicated on the affidavit.
Strict: Voters without acceptable identification must vote on a provisional ballot and also take additional steps after Election Day for it to be counted. For instance, the voter may be required to return to an election office within a few days after the election and present an acceptable ID to have the provisional ballot counted. If the voter does not come back to show ID, the provisional ballot is not counted.
Per the linked website:
On May 5, 2017 Iowa enacted HB 516, which establishes a non-strict non-photo ID requirement. It establishes five types of ID that are accepted (see Table 2 below for details) which all include a photo, but also includes a provision that requires the Secretary of State’s Office to provide existing active registered voters that do not have one of the valid types of ID with voter identification cards. Going forward, county auditors will provide newly registered voters who do not have a valid ID with voter identification cards.
From Table 2:
Iowa Code §49.78, §48A.7A, §48A.10A, §49.81
-Iowa driver’s license
-Iowa nonoperator’s identification card
-U.S. passport
-U.S. military card
-Veteran’s identification card
-A current and signed voter identification card
Note: The Secretary of State’s Office is required to provide a voter identification card to all active registered voters who do not have one of the five forms of identification at the time of passage of the bill (HB 516 in 2017). Going forward, county auditors will be required to issue voter identification cards to newly registered voters who do not possess a valid form of ID, as prescribed by the Secretary of State’s Office.
In 2018, voters will be asked for ID and anyone who does not have necessary ID will be asked to sign an oath verifying their identity, and will be allowed to cast a regular ballot.
In 2019, voters without the necessary ID will be offered a provisional ballot and can provide ID up until the time of the county canvass of votes (Monday after election day).
A person who is registered to vote but is unable to present a form of identification listed may present any of the following:
a. A current voter identification card that contains the voter identification number if the voter identification card is signed before the voter presents the card to the election official.
b. Other forms of identification sufficient to establish identity and residence dates, or describe terms of residency current to, within forty-five days prior to presentation:
(a) Residential lease.
(b) Property tax statement.
(c) Utility bill.
(d) Bank statement.
(e) Paycheck.
(f) Government check.
(g) Other government document.
A person who is registered to vote but is unable to present a form of identification listed above, may establish identity and residency in the precinct by written oath of a person who is also registered to vote in the precinct. The attesting registered voter’s oath shall attest to the stated identity of the person wishing to vote and that the person is a current resident of the precinct. The oath must be signed by the attesting registered voter in the presence of the appropriate precinct election official. A registered voter who has signed two oaths on election day attesting to a person’s identity and residency as provided in this subsection is prohibited from signing any further oaths as provided in this subsection on that day.
If a voter cannot meet any of the above options, the voter may cast a provisional ballot.
I like that provision that I bolded. And yes, while it is very good, it is not "strict" in the sense that you can still vote without presenting a valid photo ID.
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Interesting map cited by charby from Amy Schumer, Reply #450 above.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
There seems to be a connection between laxity of ID and strictness of ID versus leftish and rightish states.
Not that correlation means causation, but it's fun to think of which "caused" which.
Did laxness of voting ID "cause" leftyness, or did leftyness "cause" lax voting requirements.
Not a realistic model, but fun to play with.
Indiana enacted the first "strict" Voter ID law in 2006, so I would say that pre-existing "leftyness" has prevented the passage of Voter ID laws.
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Those are in Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and California. Not so much in Indiana, West Virginia, South Dakota, Montana, Wisconsin, and Missouri. Ohio, Pennsylvania, and the 2nd Minnesota seat could also flip, but they are long shots.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx
Fascinating. My state is one of those listed as "ID requested; photo not required." I'm 74 years old and I registered to vote when I was 21. As far back as I can remember (last week), we have always had to show a driver's license or other state-issued ID to vote, so as long as the state has had photos on driver's licenses (which is also as far back as I can remember), I have believed that we had to show a photo ID to vote.
I'm actually disappointed to learn that we don't. If I were to show up to vote at 6:00 p.m. on election day and get turned away because their records showed "I" had already voted, I'd be more than a little upset.
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ABOLISH ICE!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/10/01/pulitzer-greg-gutfeld-puts-media-to-shame-for-pushing-this-latest-kavanaugh-scandal/
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/christine-blasey-ford-psychologist/
Sounds like dangerous.com could have done a better job of fact-checking.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/christine-blasey-ford-psychologist/
Sounds like dangerous.com could have done a better job of fact-checking.
A couple of points:
These days Snopes is no more legitimate than dangerous.com.
The University did scrub her web page immediately after this came out. Why?
That said, Milo and others might want to find other things to point out, otherwise they sound like the dem senators going after Kavanaugh for saying "boof" when he was 16.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/christine-blasey-ford-psychologist/
Sounds like dangerous.com could have done a better job of fact-checking.
Since California college professor Dr. Christine Blasey Ford came forward with sexual assault allegations against President Donald Trump’s second U.S. Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, no shortage of rumors and hoaxes has targeted her. One of the many derogatory claims made against Dr. Ford is that she lied when she identified herself as a “research psychologist” during her Senate Judiciary Committee testimony on 27 September 2018.
The accusations against Kavanaugh are "allegations," and the accusations against Ford are "derogatory claims."
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/christine-blasey-ford-psychologist/
Sounds like dangerous.com could have done a better job of fact-checking.
That, or Snopes isn't exactly objective and unbiased.
The California law on the use of the title "psychologist" isn't unlike the law in my state and California regarding the use of the title "architect." I'm a licensed architect in my home state. Although I used to be licensed in California, I dropped that a number of years ago because I wasn't using it, and they adopted a continuing education requirement that would have required me to travel to California to take classes every year -- even though I more than satisfy my own state's requirement, California doesn't recognize the classes I take here.
I can legally call an architect in my state, but I can't in California even though I am licensed here, unless I include the disclaimer that I'm a [state] architect.
I wouldn't say Ford committed perjury, but I would say she engaged in a bit of professional exaggeration. And the bit about tossing out professional/clinical jargon (leading one new source to describe her as providing her own expert witness) such as talking about memory being embedded in the hippocampus was pure manipulation. Memory isn't her specialty or her area of research, but by using such technical terminology she conveyed an impression that she is an expert in memory.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-fight.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Now we are going back to bar fights in the 1980's. Hmm.
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I wouldn't say Ford committed perjury, but I would say she engaged in a bit of professional exaggeration.
I deal with a lot of academics at the local medical, dental and nursing school. I can think of a ton of them who call themselves 'physician', 'dentist' or 'nurse' but do not have a Washington state license in this regard. They were all trained as such and probably did have a Washington state license at one time, but now work in teaching, research or administrative positions rather than hands-on patient care and therefore do not need a state license. I always thought that was par for the course in academia.
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Been out of the loop for over a week. Can some one give me a Tl;dr type of summary of what's going on with Kavanaugh?
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Been out of the loop for over a week. Can some one give me a Tl;dr type of summary of what's going on with Kavanaugh?
Dems are still successfully delaying things.
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Dems are still successfully delaying things.
At the same time they are character-assassinating Kavanaugh, they are excusing much more credible and recent domestic violence accusations against their darling Kieth Ellison, deputy chairman of the DNC and currently running for AG in Minnesota :mad: (I should write Senator Klobuchar about that...)
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At the same time they are character-assassinating Kavanaugh, they are excusing much more credible and recent domestic violence accusations against their darling Kieth Ellison, deputy chairman of the DNC and currently running for AG in Minnesota :mad: (I should write Senator Klobuchar about that...)
But no one* knows about those allegations, so the Dems blatant hypocrisy is not evident.
*No one that watches the MSM, that is.
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48 Title IX sexual harassment claims filed against Kavanaugh by Harvard Law students. As one of the comments alluded, I hope none of those people ever become judges.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/02/harvard-law-students-file-complaint-that-brett-kavanaughs-presence-creates-a-hostile-environment/
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Well, he did go to Yale . . .
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48 Title IX sexual harassment claims filed against Kavanaugh by Harvard Law students. As one of the comments alluded, I hope none of those people ever become judges.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/02/harvard-law-students-file-complaint-that-brett-kavanaughs-presence-creates-a-hostile-environment/
Aaaarrrggghhh!!!
Kellogg said she hopes students who have previously felt reluctant to file complaints with the University — whether related to Kavanaugh or to other experiences — will see that the formal process gives them “power” and “a right to our feeling of being safe.”
No, you twit! You do not have a right to "feel" safe. You have a right to be safe. Complaining about "sexual harassment" without showing even a scintilla of evidence that there was any sexual harassment is so dumb that you all should be expelled from Harvard Law on the spot.
Did Kavanaugh harass you or any of your sister students? If yes, provide specifics. If no, STFU amd start reading up on what the law says.
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Well, this should surprise no one:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anti-kavanaugh-protesters-accosting-senators-have-ties-to-soros
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Well, this should surprise no one:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anti-kavanaugh-protesters-accosting-senators-have-ties-to-soros
Sheesh.
Archila and the other woman who stopped Flake pleaded with him not to support Kavanaugh’s nomination, describing their own experiences as sexual assault victims.
Because, obviously, their [alleged] experiences as sexual assault victims clearly validates Ford's [previously unsubstantiated] story. :facepalm:
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Interesting regarding both Ford's familiarity with the polygraph process, and also apparently how she answered a question about it while under oath.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/02/report-christine-blasey-fords-ex-boyfriend-says-she-coached-a-friend-on-taking-a-polygraph-more/
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Now one of our so-called Senators wants an investigation of a party where some guys watched a hooker perform a sex act, because it's just possible that Brett Kavanaugh may have been there.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36609/democrats-reveal-new-kavanaugh-allegation-grassley-ryan-saavedra
Every time we think they can't get more retarded, they do.
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Now one of our so-called Senators wants an investigation of a party where some guys watched a hooker perform a sex act, because it's just possible that Brett Kavanaugh may have been there.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36609/democrats-reveal-new-kavanaugh-allegation-grassley-ryan-saavedra
Every time we think they can't get more retarded, they do.
It's a joke. The guy who wrote invented some nude dance contest show. Do note how it sounds like the Duke "rape" case.
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Interesting regarding both Ford's familiarity with the polygraph process, and also apparently how she answered a question about it while under oath.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/02/report-christine-blasey-fords-ex-boyfriend-says-she-coached-a-friend-on-taking-a-polygraph-more/
Multiple questions.
First the question and then the clarification to make sure she can't say she thought it was about beating a lie detector.
If she were smart, she'd have seen the trap. But she's an absolutely terrible person, committed to destroying an innocent man BAMN because of abortion. And, now likely a perjurer for it.(Especially if, as reported elsewhere, a second witness confirms this.)
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(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42936201_2255861571363313_6384191619595239424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=4fe530c60849f9347f3485d14a947e0a&oe=5C4D7172)
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Now one of our so-called Senators wants an investigation of a party where some guys watched a hooker perform a sex act, because it's just possible that Brett Kavanaugh may have been there.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36609/democrats-reveal-new-kavanaugh-allegation-grassley-ryan-saavedra
Every time we think they can't get more retarded, they do.
I was eyewitness to a shocking ceremony taking place inside DKE fraternity house that involved a semi-circle of cheering frat brothers watching a local prostitute perform a public sex act.
How come it was okay for you to watch it, guy?
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Ford's testimony is developing more and more holes. That second door she needed was actually a separate entrance to a home office / rental room in the house. That, plus living in a 500 sq ft apartment for many years kinda kills off the claustrophobia argument.
I have to wonder how much of her overall testimony was her idea and how much of it was suggested by her "team"? This former boyfriend's testimony certainly seems damaging and credible. Well, other than he's a man, so he's automatically a liar.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/03/game-over-new-report-on-home-renovations-raises-fresh-doubts-about-fords-candor/
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Even the report from the Prosecutor (Mitchell) that questioned her during the hearing said her story was full of *expletive deleted*it.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/01/epic-thread-highlighting-number-of-times-ford-changed-her-story-and-other-huge-tells-should-terrify-senate-dems/
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/01/whoa-rachel-mitchell-releases-memo-all-but-destroying-fords-testimony-and-the-left-just-cant-deal/
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Grassley throws down the gauntlet with Ford and her lawyers.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/03/its-time-sen-charles-grassley-calls-on-dr-fords-attorney-to-provide-committee-with-therapists-notes/
Why do I have this feeling that Dr. Ford and her handlers thought that if she made the allegations she would simply be "believed" and not required to provide any proof.
Now that there are people questioning her, the story is falling apart, so now they are in damage control mode.
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And we're saved !!! Lots of Hollyweird celebretrolls are headed to DC to protest. Because that ALWAYS works, right Hillary ??
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/10/03/it-worked-in-2016-lib-celebs-launch-all-out-effort-to-stop-kavanaugh-conservatives-not-too-alarmed/
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Doing it wrong. Need moar torches and pitchforks...because that will help her get to "No".
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/03/she-cant-get-away-brian-fallon-does-his-part-to-inflame-the-mob-against-susan-collins/
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And we're saved !!! Lots of Hollyweird celebretrolls are headed to DC to protest. Because that ALWAYS works, right Hillary ??
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/10/03/it-worked-in-2016-lib-celebs-launch-all-out-effort-to-stop-kavanaugh-conservatives-not-too-alarmed/
John Legend, Lena Dunham, Whoopi Goldberg . . .
I thought you said there would be celebrities.
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Grassley throws down the gauntlet with Ford and her lawyers.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/03/its-time-sen-charles-grassley-calls-on-dr-fords-attorney-to-provide-committee-with-therapists-notes/
"If it is necessary to protect certain records from public disclosure, then I’m happy to discuss how to achieve that goal. And I can certainly understand, in light of Democrats’ betrayal of Dr. Ford’s desire for confidentiality, that she may hesitate to trust such an arrangement. Still, these records are central to the credibility of Dr. Ford’s allegations and must be produced."
Buuuuuuurrrrrrn...... :rofl:
Brad
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Ford is part of the swamp. It was a setup all along.
Her bff is career FBI who retired just before Trump was elected.
https://gellerreport.com/2018/10/for-cia-friend-letter-hlp.html/
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Grassley throws down the gauntlet with Ford and her lawyers.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/03/its-time-sen-charles-grassley-calls-on-dr-fords-attorney-to-provide-committee-with-therapists-notes/
Why do I have this feeling that Dr. Ford and her handlers thought that if she made the allegations she would simply be "believed" and not required to provide any proof.
Now that there are people questioning her, the story is falling apart, so now they are in damage control mode.
And her attorney's refuse/set conditions.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/03/more-conditions-christine-blasey-ford-happy-to-hand-over-evidence-to-fbi-when-they-interview-her/
I think it's time for Contempt of Congress and Perjury charges. This shitshow/clown circus has gone on far too long.
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Upon further review. *expletive deleted*ck it. Have the FBI interview her. Then if there are any discrepancies between what she told Congress and what she tells the FBI, nail her for lying to an federal agent, just like they did to GEN Flynn.
Goose, Gander, Sauce and all that.
Her Lawyers are *expletive deleted*ing 'tards for putting her in a situation where she can hit with a federal felony. If anything, they should be saying "She already testified, here's all the other stuff you ask for. If you need anything else, just ask."
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An arrest has been made in the doxxing of GOP senators:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-staffer-arrested-in-doxxing-of-gop-senators-during-kavanaugh-hearing
Senior congressional sources tell Fox News that Cosko most recently worked as a staffer for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas. He also had worked with Sen. Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., and former Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California. A LinkedIn page with Cosko's name on it describes him as a "Democratic Political Professional & Cybersecurity Graduate Student."
Uh-huh ...
The home addresses of the senators appeared to be correct, thought the phone numbers didn't appear to be entirely accurate. A “home” phone number listed for Graham appeared to direct callers to the Sexual Minority Youth Assistance League (SMYAL), a Washington D.C.-based advocacy group.
*gigglesnort*
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An arrest has been made in the doxxing of GOP senators:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-staffer-arrested-in-doxxing-of-gop-senators-during-kavanaugh-hearing
Or it was directed by Sheila Jackson-Lee and she threw her staffer under the bus.
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Be nice to see the guy make a plea deal to throw Sheila under the bus.
Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy managed to commit suicide either.
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Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy managed to commit suicide either.
Don't go taking jobs from the Clintons.
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https://secondnexus.com/news/national-council-churches-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=GTAK&tse_id=INF_596ae650c77111e8872dc93302272904
The National Council of Churches thinks Judge Kavanaugh should step aside from the nomination. Note that the NCC is not made up just of SJW mainline Protestant denominations.
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If they are against him that’s a good sign.
The more he collects the right enemies the better I feel about him being on the court.
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https://secondnexus.com/news/national-council-churches-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=GTAK&tse_id=INF_596ae650c77111e8872dc93302272904
The National Council of Churches thinks Judge Kavanaugh should step aside from the nomination. Note that the NCC is not made up just of SJW mainline Protestant denominations.
He probably likes beer more than they do. ...
I wasn't for him in the beginning, but I have seen no evidence that he is guilty of anything he has been accused of vs. my hesitation on some of his court decisions.
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https://secondnexus.com/news/national-council-churches-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=GTAK&tse_id=INF_596ae650c77111e8872dc93302272904
The National Council of Churches thinks Judge Kavanaugh should step aside from the nomination. Note that the NCC is not made up just of SJW mainline Protestant denominations.
Reading the article, this disingenuous group already had a statement out opposing his nomination prior to the last minute character assassination.
How shocking that they still hate him.
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Reading the article, this disingenuous group already had a statement out opposing his nomination prior to the last minute character assassination.
How shocking that they still hate him.
Soooo the religions that are rapidly shedding members as they move to left is still against the guy they were against when he was nominated. Good to know, but does anyone care. I also like how the atheists are cheering on the "religious". ;/ ;/ ;/
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Looks like the FBI has finished their investigation as requested.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/03/its-happening-mitch-mcconnell-sets-cloture-vote-on-brett-kavanaugh-for-friday/
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Ford is part of the swamp. It was a setup all along.
Her bff is career FBI who retired just before Trump was elected.
https://gellerreport.com/2018/10/for-cia-friend-letter-hlp.html/
I am SOOOOO going to send that link to several senators ...
I think we knew it was a setup from the start, but now the pieces are starting to fit together that explains how it came to be. It's certainly going to cast some doubt on the vaunted FBI "investigation," though. No wonder the Ds were so insistent on getting the FBI involved.
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Has the President the authority to change the FBI's name? Maybe to the Federal Bureau of Harassing Innocent Republicans (FBHIR)?
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Silly fistful...
You should know by now that NO Republicans are innocent.
They are redneck, racist, Nazi KKKers...
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Any news yet on the FBI report? I have not seen anything yet.
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Any news yet on the FBI report? I have not seen anything yet.
If CNN is to be believed...The single copy of the FBI's Kavanaugh report is behind closed doors. Here's what senators have to do to see it (https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/04/politics/senator-fbi-report-review/index.html)
The rules
This FBI's work is not public. It will likely never be public. There will be no summary. There will be no release.
There are 109 people who have clearance to access what was delivered to Capitol Hill at 2:30 Thursday morning -- 100 senators, four majority committee staffers and four minority committee staffers, one committee clerk. That's it.
There is a single copy of the FBI's findings. It is currently in a vault, in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility -- or SCIF, if you'd like to use the Washington short hand. It cannot leave the room.
Senators can't bring their phones into the SCIF when they go to review the documents. If they take notes, the notes must be left in the room when the senator leaves.
Senators are not allowed to discuss or characterize in detail what they've read (though they most certainly will try.)
Twitchy posted this: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/04/such-looong-faces-could-this-scene-from-senate-dems-outside-schumers-office-spell-victory-for-kavanaugh/ (https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/04/such-looong-faces-could-this-scene-from-senate-dems-outside-schumers-office-spell-victory-for-kavanaugh/)
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And here's my other Senator. Following right in the footsteps of Sen Durbin. This is one reason why this state is soooooo boned.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/04/jaw-meet-floor-tammy-duckworths-evidence-of-kavanaughs-dishonesty-reeks-of-desperation-video/
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https://www.wired.com/story/information-terrorists-trying-to-reshape-america/
Blasey Ford has learned how devastating this runaway narrative architecture can be. But so, now, has Kavanaugh, whose personal credibility was also being run down by the propaganda being levied in his defense.
Yeah, that's Kavanaugh's big problem. It's the people defending him.
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https://www.wired.com/story/information-terrorists-trying-to-reshape-america/
Yeah, that's Kavanaugh's big problem. It's the people defending him.
Yeah, that must be right. I can see it all so clearly now. I've been such a fool to suspect even for a nanosecond that there might have been anything fraudulent or contrived about Ford and her sister accusers of Kavanaugh.
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https://www.wired.com/story/information-terrorists-trying-to-reshape-america/
Yeah, that's Kavanaugh's big problem. It's the people defending him.
Apparently Wired doesn't like it when the left's tactics are turned against them. Or more appropriately, making the assumption that the article is at least somewhat credible in their characterization of the "attacks" coming from the alt-right, they don't like it that the "alt-right" apparently has gotten tired of being a punching bag and has started to hit back.
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I'll be honest. I am shocked that the R's have seemed to somehow grow a spine and are actually standing up to the attacks on Kavanaugh. I think the leftists are even more shocked that their tactic of flinging crap and hoping something stinks enough that the R's eventually just give up didn't work this time. So they doubled, and even tripled down on the stupid, and lo and behold, when that didn't work, they've just turned up the volume on the shrieking. I'm not going to consider this a win though until Kavanaugh is actually confirmed by the full senate, because we all know the R's are masters of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. But I'm cautiously optimistic. I mean, Kavanaugh was definitely not my first choice for SCOTUS, but I'm really hoping that having been attacked in this matter will solidify his positions on some of the things I am not 100% on him.
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https://www.wired.com/story/information-terrorists-trying-to-reshape-america/
I say again, what the hell is going on with the IT community? These are supposed to be logical people, but they seem to be the biggest koolaid drinkers. Seriously, Cher's TDS is less whacked than these people.
All these IT publications must have been bought up by Soros. I don't think I've seen one non-far left story in any of them in the last two years. Which - get back to computer reviews and stop writing political articles, jackasses.
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I say again, what the hell is going on with the IT community? These are supposed to be logical people, but they seem to be the biggest koolaid drinkers. Seriously, Cher's TDS is less whacked than these people.
All these IT publications must have been bought up by Soros. I don't think I've seen one non-far left story in any of them in the last two years. Which - get back to computer reviews and stop writing political articles, jackasses.
I’m not so surprised. I’ve been doing IT since IT was a thing. There has always been a strong anti government/authority undercurrent in the beginning of the IT world. Unfortunately part or that translated into pro democrat/liberal ideas vs. conservative/libertarian ideas. I had some fantastic arguments with Stallman of GNU about that many years ago.
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Why we should now regard Jeff Flake as a hero:
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/how-jeff-flakes-one-week-delay-helped-clear-brett-kavanaughs-name
And this article doesn't even get into the connection between Ford and the retired FBI bff
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I say again, what the hell is going on with the IT community? These are supposed to be logical people, but they seem to be the biggest koolaid drinkers. Seriously, Cher's TDS is less whacked than these people.
All these IT publications must have been bought up by Soros. I don't think I've seen one non-far left story in any of them in the last two years. Which - get back to computer reviews and stop writing political articles, jackasses.
I don't know why it would surprise you, given what we've learned about Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
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Should we ship some of these to Alyssa Milano and Amy Schumer?
(https://images.sunfrogshirts.com/2015/04/27/This-girl-loves-her-KAVANAUGH-jgaxgcxsyd.jpg)
I think I might get this one for myself.
https://www.sunfrog.com/LifeStyle/I-cant-keep-calm-Im-a-KAVANAUGH.html?86448
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In light of recently uncovered information....
I wonder what "information" that is...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/grassley-asks-fords-legal-team-for-records-of-contacts-with-feinstein-and-hirono-in-light-of-recently-uncovered-information
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I don't know why it would surprise you, given what we've learned about Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Speaking of Facebook, the employees demand to know why one of their VPs was at the Kavanaugh hearing. Now they have to have special meetings on it instead of what happens in the real world, which is, "shut up and get back to work or find yourself another job."
The VP is apparently a good friend of Kavanaugh's and was there on his own time. Interesting how the SJWs want to tell their bosses who they can and cannot associate with in their personal life.
If this is the direction they want to go, then maybe all the Facebook employees that attend protests will need to explain themselves.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/facebook-executives-kavanaugh-support-triggers-backlash-for-zuckerberg
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Speaking of Facebook, the employees demand to know why one of their VPs was at the Kavanaugh hearing. Now they have to have special meetings on it instead of what happens in the real world, which is, "shut up and get back to work or find yourself another job."
The VP is apparently a good friend of Kavanaugh's and was there on his own time. Interesting how the SJWs want to tell their bosses who they can and cannot associate with in their personal life.
If this is the direction they want to go, then maybe all the Facebook employees that attend protests will need to explain themselves.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/facebook-executives-kavanaugh-support-triggers-backlash-for-zuckerberg
Also not surprising. See Brendan Eich.
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Ford is part of the swamp. It was a setup all along.
Her bff is career FBI who retired just before Trump was elected.
https://gellerreport.com/2018/10/for-cia-friend-letter-hlp.html/
I think this whole episode is about to unravel....
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/05/wow-fords-witness-and-friend-leland-keyser-just-dropped-a-bombshell-on-her-and-its-bad-like-really-bad/
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I think this whole episode is about to unravel....
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/05/wow-fords-witness-and-friend-leland-keyser-just-dropped-a-bombshell-on-her-and-its-bad-like-really-bad/
And not one damned thing will come from any of it.
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And not one damned thing will come from any of it.
And if nothing does happen, there will come a point where good people will say "Enough !!" and that will be an interesting day...
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And the circle is squared...
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/05/so-many-fun-coincidences-check-out-who-fords-fbi-buddy-monica-mcleans-lawyer-is-tied-to-hint-ugly-pantsuits/
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Victor Davis Hanson nails it.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/04/victor_davis_hanson_dr_christine_blasey_fords_story_has_collapsed_she_gave_one_too_many_narratives.html
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One of Chuck Schumer's previous victims explains what she went through. (https://amgreatness.com/2018/10/05/the-politics-of-personal-destruction-redux/)
I don't remember this, but I'm not surprised Newt Gingrich weasled out.
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https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/05/oh-no-you-dont-sen-dianne-feinsteins-1st-tweet-after-cloture-vote-seems-like-shes-trying-to-change-the-subject/ (https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/10/05/oh-no-you-dont-sen-dianne-feinsteins-1st-tweet-after-cloture-vote-seems-like-shes-trying-to-change-the-subject/)
Feinstein after coming out of the SCIF from reading the FBI report (https://twitter.com/Feisty_FL/status/1048016888083742720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1048016888083742720&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2018%2F10%2F05%2Foh-no-you-dont-sen-dianne-feinsteins-1st-tweet-after-cloture-vote-seems-like-shes-trying-to-change-the-subject%2F)
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http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/05/collins-manchin-announce-support-kavanaugh-paving-way-supreme-court-confirmation/
50 votes pledged so far. I'll believe it when I see it, but that sounds good.
If the GOP would let a nominee get railroaded like this, say goodbye to any Red Wave. Ever.
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Feinstein after coming out of the SCIF from reading the FBI report (https://twitter.com/Feisty_FL/status/1048016888083742720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1048016888083742720&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2018%2F10%2F05%2Foh-no-you-dont-sen-dianne-feinsteins-1st-tweet-after-cloture-vote-seems-like-shes-trying-to-change-the-subject%2F)
Maybe the tears are to shore up her support in California? She's facing a challenge from Mr. 30-caliber-clip.
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The Daines dude sure is brave. No way I would get on a plane to go vote if I was the deciding vote.
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Although I will admit I am disappointed that it's not a tie. Just to see Pence vote. You think you know what autistic screeching sounds like, wait until after that. Next level.
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Although I will admit I am disappointed that it's not a tie. Just to see Pence vote. You think you know what autistic screeching sounds like, wait until after that. Next level.
I hadn't even thought about that - all the clueless lefties getting a brutal lesson in Constitution 101. It'd be the worst scandal since the popular vote winner lost the election. :laugh:
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Ha ha - a revival of Bush Derangement Syndrome. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/05/liberals-rediscover-hatred-of-george-w-bush-over-report-he-reassured-susan-collins-on-brett-kavanaugh/
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Good article by Tammy Bruce. It was interesting to me that some of the "squishiest" R's are the ones that breathed fire on this. Again, good on them.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tammy-bruce-susan-collins-speech-tells-us-a-lot-about-the-gop-and-america
I do believe that the focal point that fired everyone up was not Kavanaugh himself, but the attack on "innocent until proven guilty". It is such an important part of our country's history that I think it was the last straw for even the moderates. I was certainly surprised by Collins' well done speech. She definitely put herself in the crosshairs. The left's response has been sick.
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Good article by Tammy Bruce. It was interesting to me that some of the "squishiest" R's are the ones that breathed fire on this. Again, good on them.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tammy-bruce-susan-collins-speech-tells-us-a-lot-about-the-gop-and-america
I do believe that the focal point that fired everyone up was not Kavanaugh himself, but the attack on "innocent until proven guilty". It is such an important part of our country's history that I think it was the last straw for even the moderates. I was certainly surprised by Collins' well done speech. She definitely put herself in the crosshairs. The left's response has been sick.
I agree that it was and is good commentary by Tammy Bruce about the Collins Senate Speech and how the overall hearings played out. Innocent until proven guilty is a pillar of our judicial system versus what occurred with the Kavanaugh hearings and the more liberal media like CNN, CNBC, and so forth.
This business about rape and sexual assault are important. Standards have changed in our society. I think most men who have dated probably have at least one experience that they remember with some regret. The remembering is important as it is a guide to future behavior. I believe that Kavanaugh would remember if he was party to such. He is that kind of guy.
This whole thing played out because Kavanaugh's judicial bias is to established law and the constitution, and being nominated by President Trump. I don't think Kavanaugh believes that the Judiciary should be changing the law. That is what Congress is for.
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This whole thing played out because Kavanaugh's judicial bias is to established law and the constitution, and being nominated by President Trump. I don't think Kavanaugh believes that the Judiciary should be changing the law. That is what Congress is for.
Paradoxically, the left's view of upholding the law is what they call "legislating from the bench." In fact, their whole problem with Kavanaugh (and any other conservative nominee) is that he probably won't legislate from the bench. The left wants the Supreme Court to fabricate non-existent "rights" out of thin air, while giving their blessing to the passage of innumerable laws that trample on the Constitution.
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Yes, legislating from the bench and bypassing Congress entirely. Federal regulations are another bypassing kind of effort.
A couple of years ago I was talking with my Brother who generally has a progressive tilt politically, that laws (mostly environmental) that have a significant dollar impact should be voted on my Congress versus the current process. That way Presidents can't decide to change things after the fact and if something is important, Congress should be able to reach a consensus on the issue. His comment was that nothing would ever happen then.... but I believe if it is important, Congress would act.
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His comment was that nothing would ever happen then.... but I believe if it is important, Congress would act.
You make it sound almost as if he thinks that's a problem.
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Susan Collins (R-ME) gave a 45-minute speech on why she has decided to vote for Kavanaugh -- and she's being villified for it. The full text of her speech in available on-line, so I won't bother to reproduce it. Here's an article about it:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/susan-collins-kavanaugh-speech-diagnoses-americas-deepening-division-235214542.html
Telling statement in the article:
“We are on a dangerous road, and the judicial confirmation wars are going to get a lot worse for our traveling down it,” wrote Benjamin Wittes, editor in chief of Lawfare, in a column for the Atlantic arguing that Kavanaugh should not be confirmed because the preponderance of the evidence, in his mind, “leans toward Ford.”
Really? How can any rational person conclude that the "preponderance of evidence" (of which there is, in fact, none) leans toward Ford? Of the people Ford named as witnesses, not one corroborated her story. And Kavanaugh has his daily calendar which, if not proving that he wasn't there, clearly does NOT prove that he was there. Putting aside KDS (Kavanaugh derangement Syndrome), a rational person would have no choice other than to conclude that the preponderance of evidence leans (rather heavily) toward Kavanaugh.
A couple of paragraphs later, we see this:
The losers of this fight are not Democrats or Republicans but the American people, especially minorities and those without power, for whom an independent and trusted judiciary is a crucial bulwark against abuses.
That's the bottom line.
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Really? How can any rational person conclude that the "preponderance of evidence" (of which there is, in fact, none) leans toward Ford?
He can if he got his law degree from the same institution as Saul Goodman.
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Crybaby leftist assaults pro-Trump/Kavanaugh activist, steals and destroys his property. (https://nalert.blogspot.com/2018/10/unhinged-leftist-steals-pro-kavanaugh.html)
The fact that the guy has Cerebral Palsy is not relevant, she would have done it anyway and might not even know he had the condition. It's still unhinged and boorish behavior.
edit: Added link.
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He can if he got his law degree from the same institution as Saul Goodman.
Go University of American Samoa! Go Land Crabs!
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Go University of American Samoa! Go Land Crabs!
=D
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I agree that it was and is good commentary by Tammy Bruce about the Collins Senate Speech and how the overall hearings played out. Innocent until proven guilty is a pillar of our judicial system versus what occurred with the Kavanaugh hearings and the more liberal media like CNN, CNBC, and so forth.
This business about rape and sexual assault are important. Standards have changed in our society. I think most men who have dated probably have at least one experience that they remember with some regret. The remembering is important as it is a guide to future behavior. I believe that Kavanaugh would remember if he was party to such. He is that kind of guy.
This whole thing played out because Kavanaugh's judicial bias is to established law and the constitution, and being nominated by President Trump. I don't think Kavanaugh believes that the Judiciary should be changing the law. That is what Congress is for.
Either Rush or someone else mentioned yesterday that 80% of the leftist agenda that heavily affects our daily lives was enacted via court decisions. Not sure how they came up with that number, but I have to agree that a lot of the leftist agenda goes through the courts rather than the legislature. They can't afford to lose leftist power in the SC.
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Watching the livestream now, protesters are showing their asses in the gallery.
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If I were the emperor, the USSC would have 8 Justice Thomases, and one Justice Ginsburg just for laughs (someone has to write amusing opposing opinions.) I think Thomas is even more originalist that Scalia was, he just never had to say anything while Scalia was on the court.
The left hates Thomas so much, there was talk of impeaching him a few months ago. I have no idea why, but I suspect they see him as an "Uncle Tom" traitor because he's black and conservative.
Did Saul really goto University of American Samoa? I must have missed that in Breaking Bad. Maybe it was revealed in Better Call Saul.
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Confirmed!
https://www.apnews.com/8234f0b8a6194d8b89ff79f9b0c94f35/Senate-near-Kavanaugh-approval-after-epic-struggle
Kavanaugh is confirmed: Senate Oks Supreme Court nominee
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If I were the emperor, the USSC would have 8 Justice Thomases, and one Justice Ginsburg just for laughs (someone has to write amusing opposing opinions.) I think Thomas is even more originalist that Scalia was, he just never had to say anything while Scalia was on the court.
The left hates Thomas so much, there was talk of impeaching him a few months ago. I have no idea why, but I suspect they see him as an "Uncle Tom" traitor because he's black and conservative.
Did Saul really goto University of American Samoa? I must have missed that in Breaking Bad. Maybe it was revealed in Better Call Saul.
Agreed on Thomas.
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Confirmed!
https://www.apnews.com/8234f0b8a6194d8b89ff79f9b0c94f35/Senate-near-Kavanaugh-approval-after-epic-struggle
Kavanaugh is confirmed: Senate Oks Supreme Court nominee
Holy crap! That explains why I got an alert text from the government telling me I just lost the right to have an abortion!
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You make it sound almost as if he thinks that's a problem.
I did and that is his belief especially relative to environmental issues. I have to disagree personally.
Yes, Brett Kavanaugh is the next Associate Supreme Court justice once he is sworn in. It has been a rocky road and I can't help but think if he had an inkling of what was going to happen, he would have declined Trump's nomination to the court. We'll see how the next one goes. But I feel sure that unless one of them die, the more liberal side of the court will try to wait until there is a Democrat President and hopefully a Democratic majority in the Senate at that point.
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Holy crap! That explains why I got an alert text from the government telling me I just lost the right to have an abortion!
They just sent my wife her child-bearing schedule for the next 5 years, "for the furtherance of the White race."
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I'm married to a Latina, so that's likely why I didn't get *that* text.
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I'm married to a Latina, so that's likely why I didn't get *that* text.
My late wife was a Latina, too. But she vehemently resisted being classified as "Hispanic." She said she wasn't born in Spain, she had never been to Spain, so therefore she could not be Hispanic. She was Chilena, and proud of it.
Of course, even the term "Latina" is dumb. Probably fewer than 1/100th of a percent of citizens of "Latin America" can even read Latin, and nobody other than a couple of older priests could ever speak it.
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Just wait until Trump nominates Amy Comey Barrett to take Ginsburg's place. If you think the left went Bat Crap Crazy over Kavanaugh, hold on to your shorts...( I wonder what she'll be accused of doing back when she was a teenager....)
[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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Being a Catholic.
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My late wife was a Latina, too. But she vehemently resisted being classified as "Hispanic." She said she wasn't born in Spain, she had never been to Spain, so therefore she could not be Hispanic. She was Chilena, and proud of it.
Of course, even the term "Latina" is dumb. Probably fewer than 1/100th of a percent of citizens of "Latin America" can even read Latin, and nobody other than a couple of older priests could ever speak it.
So they're called Latinos because they're supposed to speak Latin? ???
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Being a Catholic.
Pretty much. Or being married to a dude.
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Latin-Os
That would make a cool breakfast cereal.
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You would have to eat them in salsa and not milk...
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You would have to eat them in salsa and not milk...
In one of those taco salad shell things?
(https://www.superfoodly.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/trump-taco-salad.jpg)
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And now I want tacos...
Of all the thread drift, food drift is the worst.
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And now I want tacos...
Of all the thread drift, food drift is the worst.
Hellzyesitis!
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A couple of years ago I was talking with my Brother who generally has a progressive tilt politically, that laws (mostly environmental) that have a significant dollar impact should be voted on my Congress versus the current process. That way Presidents can't decide to change things after the fact and if something is important, Congress should be able to reach a consensus on the issue. His comment was that nothing would ever happen then.... but I believe if it is important, Congress would act.
I'm far more annoyed with the various departments making regulations that effectively bypass all elected officials. IMO, every regulation or ruling by any agency of the Federal government that has the effect of prohibiting or requiring any otherwise lawful conduct should have to be specifically approved by Congress within one year. No approval and it's voided retroactively.
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And he's been sworn in also at a private ceremony in Supreme Court Building by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy, whom he had clerked for.
He'll be on the Bench Tuesday for the Opening of the Court to hear arguments.
[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/06/no-more-delays-brett-kavanaugh-sworn-in-at-private-ceremony-inside-supreme-court/
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And he's been sworn in also at a private ceremony in Supreme Court Building by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy, whom he had clerked for.
He'll be on the Bench Tuesday for the Opening of the Court to hear arguments.
[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/06/no-more-delays-brett-kavanaugh-sworn-in-at-private-ceremony-inside-supreme-court/
Considering that Kennedy came out against him, I wonder if they had to turn up the thermostat in the room where the swearing-in was conducted.
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Considering that Kennedy came out against him, I wonder if they had to turn up the thermostat in the room where the swearing-in was conducted.
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
I can't find anywhere Kennedy said anything negative or against Kavanaugh. He had no comment on the hearings and fight over his nomination. Retired Justice John Paul Stevens was against Kavanaugh, but that was hardly a surprise.
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(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/03ADEDA3-DEE1-401B-860D-30DBAC553352-750x726.jpeg)
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??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
I can't anywhere Kennedy said anything negative or against Kavanaugh. He had no comment on the hearings and fight over his nomination. Retired Justice John Paul Stevens was against Kavanaugh, but that was hardly a surprise.
I thought I had read that Kennedy had finally broken his silence and announced his disapproval. Perhaps I was confused. (Like that's never happened before!)
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Finally! And thank God!
I wonder if all the crap thrown at him by the Dem's will have any influence on his rulings. It would be understandable if he harbored a bit of resentment towards them.
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I thought I had read that Kennedy had finally broken his silence and announced his disapproval. Perhaps I was confused. (Like that's never happened before!)
That may have been John Paul Stevens:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-kavanaugh-stevens/kavanaugh-does-not-belong-on-supreme-court-retired-justice-stevens-says-idUSKCN1ME2P8
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I think Kavanaugh clerked for Justice Kennedy, and Kennedy recommended he be nominated.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Fo9KpaQ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/03fAGpy.png)
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(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/kavanaughbellcurve-600x600.jpg)
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It will be interesting how quickly things die down in the media relative to Justice Kavanaugh. The Democrats want to investigate him further if they win control of the either the House or Senate in November.
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And, as usual, while everyone is watching this circus, the house passes HR 6729 on a roll call vote.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6729
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There is nothing, NOTHING, that the Democrats will not do in order to gain and retain power.
Over/under on when they start openly having political opponents killed? I say 3 years. (After Trump is re-elected.)
https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/1048954865442070529
After failing to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation, Democrats wonder if it's time to be more ruthless
The Dems think they need to be MORE ruthless. My prediction looks to be about 2.5 years too much
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And, as usual, while everyone is watching this circus, the house passes HR 6729 on a roll call vote.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/6729
I only read the summary. How is this a bad bill?
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Hate to say it, but this continues to be the best timeline ever. Go back anytime since this board started and imagine us sharing Lindsay Graham memes that celebrate him. If we said back then that was a thing, what would have been the odds? Howls of derisive laughter mostly.
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I only read the summary. How is this a bad bill?
One more hit on the 4th amendment. Among other things, Gov access to all bank records without a warrant.
When the ACLU and AFP are both against it, you know something is up.
https://americansforprosperity.org/congress-doesnt-need-to-threaten-civil-liberties-to-fight-human-trafficking/
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One of our local news idiots said that Kav has been confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice Court.
And in a clip of video some other person said that Kav will be joining the Court with a huge taint.
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And in a clip of video some other person said that Kav will be joining the Court with a huge taint.
So did Clarence Thomas. He's still a Supreme Court justice. Does anyone know where Anita Hill is today?
I didn't. I had to look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Hill
And the article says Thomas was confirmed by a vote of 52-48. So, here we are again. Kavanaugh has been confirmed. The late Ann Landers once asked in her column, "What do you call a medical student who graduated last in his class?"
The answer: "Doctor."
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One of our local news idiots said that Kav has been confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice Court.
And in a clip of video some other person said that Kav will be joining the Court with a huge taint.
I don't know all the modern slang or whatnot, but I don't think thats the proper body parts to refer to.
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That struck me as unfortunate wording, too.
But, tain't none of my business.
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One of our local news idiots said that Kav has been confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice Court.
And in a clip of video some other person said that Kav will be joining the Court with a huge taint.
*snicker*
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A quick wrap up the whole show from none other than Hitler.
https://twitter.com/realTRUMPERLAND/status/1048280033033375745/video/1
bob
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A quick wrap up the whole show from none other than Hitler.
https://twitter.com/realTRUMPERLAND/status/1048280033033375745/video/1
bob
THAT.
WAS.
AWESOME !!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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A quick wrap up the whole show from none other than Hitler.
https://twitter.com/realTRUMPERLAND/status/1048280033033375745/video/1
bob
That made my Monday!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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A quick wrap up the whole show from none other than Hitler.
https://twitter.com/realTRUMPERLAND/status/1048280033033375745/video/1
bob
Do the creators of that movie get royalties when those things are created? That movie scene has gotten a lot of replays.
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One of our local news idiots said that Kav has been confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice Court.
And in a clip of video some other person said that Kav will be joining the Court with a huge taint.
Regardless of the wording, by their definition every single constitutional Justice from here on will be tainted also. The Democrats will make stuff up to be sure of it.
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OUT: Stop Kavanaugh at all costs!
IN: Death to the Electoral College!
Geez, all I'm seeing today is how we have to kill off the Electoral College because that's how Kavanaugh got in. Almost crazier than when they were bashing it after Trump won.
In many ways I hope they roll with this with the same fervor as "guilty until proven innocent". Again, my "middle of the road insurance agent from Kansas" example isn't gonna be too crazy about CA and NY telling him how to live. These wackos are really building up their bubble. I saw the other day that Rob Reiner tweeted about how the vast majority of the country is progressive. No, sorry - the rest of the country isn't Hollywood. And even if there are a lot of people who consider themselves progressive, they are not "Hollywood level progressive". They may not like Hollywood and NYC progressives telling them how to live in their state.
At any rate, I urge them to keep up with the crazy rhetoric. It's still a month until election time, and I don't want to see progressive craziness buried by other headlines. We need them to keep going full bore with the death to [insert subject here] stuff.
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There is progressive and there's batshit crazy.
You could convince me a lot of folks are "progressive", but there's only so many that are batshit crazy.
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I, for one, can't wait for the next big kerfuffle. I'm tired of this one. If this keeps up much longer a customer is going to come in and think I'm crazy because I'm screaming "DUE PROCESS" at the idiots on the tv.
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I, for one, can't wait for the next big kerfuffle. I'm tired of this one. If this keeps up much longer a customer is going to come in and think I'm crazy because I'm screaming "DUE PROCESS" at the idiots on the tv.
Ha! Last Friday, Dana Loesch was yelling on air about a reporter saying a "witness" was someone who Ford told about the incident 3 decades after the incident. One person mentioned that meant he was a witness to the first Moon Landing because his parents told him about it as a kid.
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And so it begins . . . .
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/rosemount-minnesota-teacher-kill-kavanaugh-post
"So who's gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh"? From a schoolteacher, no less.
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And so it begins . . . .
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/rosemount-minnesota-teacher-kill-kavanaugh-post
"So who's gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh"? From a schoolteacher, no less.
And I thought Western Rifle Shooters was on the edge of reasonable...
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They may not realize, yet, they really don't want to go there.
Seems as if some .fed agency would/should be looking into this.
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They may not realize, yet, they really don't want to go there.
Seems as if some .fed agency would/should be looking into this.
Where's that thread on how much ammo is enough ...? Was it on The Firing Line?
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And so it begins . . . .
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/rosemount-minnesota-teacher-kill-kavanaugh-post
"So who's gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh"? From a schoolteacher, no less.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tweet-calling-to-kill-kavanaugh-gets-minnesota-teacher-put-on-paid-leave-report-says (https://www.foxnews.com/us/tweet-calling-to-kill-kavanaugh-gets-minnesota-teacher-put-on-paid-leave-report-says)
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/tweet-calling-to-kill-kavanaugh-gets-minnesota-teacher-put-on-paid-leave-report-says (https://www.foxnews.com/us/tweet-calling-to-kill-kavanaugh-gets-minnesota-teacher-put-on-paid-leave-report-says)
Oh good, no she has the time off to go do it...
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
(How about jail ?? Jail would be a good place for her to reflect on her post...)
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Where's that thread on how much ammo is enough ...? Was it on The Firing Line?
Yeah, makes that combo deal of 1000 rounds of 223 and 10 Pmags look better and better.
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Where's that thread on how much ammo is enough ...? Was it on The Firing Line?
See, I was always taught that "enough ammo" is defined as "1 full reload more than whatever you have on hand"
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Where's that thread on how much ammo is enough ...? Was it on The Firing Line?
I think every gun forum has at least one such thread.
My answer to that question has always been "How much can you afford?"
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Well, that didn't take long.
https://apnews.com/e94bb8c87408427f86e0b882f671a02c/Court-mood-is-jovial-as-Kavanaugh-takes-his-place-on-bench
Kavanaugh has also begun moving in to his new office at the Supreme Court, taking over space previously used by Justice Samuel Alito, who moved into offices vacated by Kennedy. Kavanaugh has also hired four clerks, all women, the first time that has happened.
The MONSTER! Obviously, he'll be using his position as a Supreme Court justice to molest those poor women. Has he no shame?
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Interesting video -- a body language expert commenting or Ford's body language during the hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGxr1VQ2dPI
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More background on Dr. Ford:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ldnK2qLN8
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And Michele Malkin weighs in ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV019fkNOqs
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Wow. Delusional.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/10/truth-hillary-clinton-says-allegations-against-bill-are-nothing-like-those-leveled-at-brett-kavanaugh/
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And Michele Malkin weighs in ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV019fkNOqs
In addition, Ford's social media accounts were scrubbed before she went public. I can't think of a reason to do that unless you are trying to hide something. I guess it could just be keeping personal stuff personal when you know your name is about to become well known, but it adds to the suspicion from other facts.
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I don't suppose anything will come of this, but boy do they hate this guy.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roberts-refers-ethics-complaints-against-kavanaugh-to-federal-judges
Roberts said in his letter that he was initially notified of complaints against Kavanaugh on Sept. 20. The complaints deal with statements Kavanaugh made during his confirmation hearings and were initially filed with the D.C. Circuit, where Kavanaugh served for 12 years before joining the high court....
Roberts received the first three of 15 eventual complaints a week before Kavanaugh's angry denial of a sexual assault allegation by Christine Blasey Ford...
It's possible the complaints will never be investigated if the lower-court judges determine they have no jurisdiction over a Supreme Court justice under the judiciary's ethics rules.
Merrick Garland, the chief judge of the D.C. Circuit, typically deals with ethics complaints, but he apparently stepped aside from complaints against Kavanaugh. Garland had been nominated to the Supreme Court by President Barack Obama, but Senate Republicans never acted on the nomination.
Roberts' letter was sent to Judge Timothy Tymkovich, the 10th Circuit's chief judge. Tymkovich was on President Donald Trump's list of possible Supreme Court nominees.
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Democrats are in a trick bag...
Grassley and McConnell want to keep the Senate in session to finish the confirmation votes on 49 judegships. However, the D's long ago decided to follow the rules precisely for voting (There are time requirements, like with Kavanaugh, the 30 hours from being voted out of committee until you can vote on the nomination and other rules like that.)
However, there are many D's that need to get back to their home states and campaign to save their jobs.
So Schumer needs to make a deal with McConnell, as the judges will eventually be confirmed, whether D's stay or go home, or dig in their heels to fight losing confirmation battles, and lose even more seats as vulnerable D senator can't do shake and grins to try to win re-election.
It's a lose-lose prospect for the D's.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-on-heels-of-kavanaugh-confirmation-pushing-dozens-of-judicial-nominees
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Democrats are in a trick bag...
Grassley and McConnell want to keep the Senate in session to finish the confirmation votes on 49 judegships. However, the D's long ago decided to follow the rules precisely for voting (There are time requirements, like with Kavanaugh, the 30 hours from being voted out of committee until you can vote on the nomination and other rules like that.)
However, there are many D's that need to get back to their home states and campaign to save their jobs.
So Schumer needs to make a deal with McConnell, as the judges will eventually be confirmed, whether D's stay or go home, or dig in their heels to fight losing confirmation battles, and lose even more seats as vulnerable D senator can't do shake and grins to try to win re-election.
It's a lose-lose prospect for the D's.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-on-heels-of-kavanaugh-confirmation-pushing-dozens-of-judicial-nominees
(https://i.imgur.com/r7C86bZ.jpg)
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And the D's fold like a cheap suit.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/11/mitch-you-magnificent-bastard-libs-are-pissed-at-senate-dems-for-agreeing-to-this-deal-with-mcconnell/
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I never imagined we would be making memes about McConnell... Wow, just wow... :O
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(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/03ADEDA3-DEE1-401B-860D-30DBAC553352-750x726.jpeg)
This needs to be repeated after he made the deal with D's to confirm 15 more judges by unanimous consent (Harumph, Harumph !!) so they could go home and try to save their phony-baloney jobs...
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More post-Kavanaugh. Bravo Zulu to Bill Cassidy for his response:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/12/savage-af-gop-sen-bill-cassidy-drops-anti-kavanaugh-protester-for-using-her-kids-to-shame-him-video/
I continue to be amazed that some in the GOP have now grown a pair and don't attempt to placate these idiots.
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More post-Kavanaugh. Bravo Zulu to Bill Cassidy for his response:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/12/savage-af-gop-sen-bill-cassidy-drops-anti-kavanaugh-protester-for-using-her-kids-to-shame-him-video/
I continue to be amazed that some in the GOP have now grown a pair and don't attempt to placate these idiots.
It's finally looking like some Republican spines are stiffening.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQUdFMF0Zs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQUdFMF0Zs
:facepalm: There be nutz everywheres. [tinfoil]
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This'll finally get him! (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brooklyn-witches-plan-put-hex-191446162.html)
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This'll finally get him! (https://www.yahoo.com/news/brooklyn-witches-plan-put-hex-191446162.html)
A bookstore, you say?
https://youtu.be/5ch1kXp3mQA
(some anatomical references)
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Just as a (hopefully) entertaining coda to the confirmation saga, I work with a guy who's neither Republican or Democrat, but is a member of the Conspiracy Party. He thinks the whole circus was meant to distract from some deeper, darker secret about Kavanaugh. I don't know why he thought that pouring all that extra attention on Kavanaugh would help hide anything, but that's what he kept saying.
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Round two here we go...this time it is for Ford's lawyers: https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/19/whoa-judicial-watch-files-complaint-against-christine-blasey-fords-lawyers-for-violating-the-rules-of-professional-responsibility/ (https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/19/whoa-judicial-watch-files-complaint-against-christine-blasey-fords-lawyers-for-violating-the-rules-of-professional-responsibility/)
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Round two here we go...this time it is for Ford's lawyers: https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/19/whoa-judicial-watch-files-complaint-against-christine-blasey-fords-lawyers-for-violating-the-rules-of-professional-responsibility/ (https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/19/whoa-judicial-watch-files-complaint-against-christine-blasey-fords-lawyers-for-violating-the-rules-of-professional-responsibility/)
I continue to find that interesting. Much as I would like to see her lawyers take some heat, was Ford confined to solitary or something during all this? Because otherwise how could she NOT know that a visit to California was offered?
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I continue to find that interesting. Much as I would like to see her lawyers take some heat, was Ford confined to solitary or something during all this? Because otherwise how could she NOT know that a visit to California was offered?
So she perjured herself when she stated that she didn't know of the offer?
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So she perjured herself when she stated that she didn't know of the offer?
I see no other explanation, unless she took a trip to Mars or something.
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I agree with Ben. The multiple offers to have Senate staffers go to her were in all the news media. We all knew about it -- IMHO it's inconceivable that she didn't know about it.
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I agree with Ben. The multiple offers to have Senate staffers go to her were in all the news media. We all knew about it -- IMHO it's inconceivable that she didn't know about it.
Perhaps that's the plan; get the sleazy lawyers to claim that Dr Ford lied.
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It's a trick bag. Either the lawyers have to fess up that they didn't tell her about the offer, which puts them in ethics trouble with the DC court, or they have to throw their client under the bus. Which do you think will happen ??
[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
P.S. If Judicial Watch can get her on perjury, that opens the floodgates to other perjury charges.
P.S.S. I'm going to throw a few shekels at JW. They've done good work on getting e-mails and like released.
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It's a trick bag. Either the lawyers have to fess up that they didn't tell her about the offer, which puts them in ethics trouble with the DC court, or they have to throw their client under the bus. Which do you think will happen ??
[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
P.S. If Judicial Watch can get her on perjury, that opens the floodgates to other perjury charges.
P.S.S. I'm going to throw a few shekels at JW. They've done good work on getting e-mails and like released.
You are assuming any prosecutor will care about the perjury. But it's still good to expose it.
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But wait !!! There's more !!! (judges to be confirmed !!!)
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/24/capitulation-photo-from-senate-judiciary-committee-hearing-shows-dems-have-given-up-fighting-trump-on-judges/
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More fallout for Democrats.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/37601/breaking-avenatti-swetnick-referred-criminal-ryan-saavedra
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What's with the R's now-a-days? Are they taking HGH treatments or something? They all of a sudden seem to be growing a spine...
Whatever it is, I hope they continue the treatments.
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What's with the R's now-a-days? Are they taking HGH treatments or something? They all of a sudden seem to be growing a spine...
Whatever it is, I hope they continue the treatments.
I'm one of those Ron Paul Republicans. I'm actually closer to a libertarian or a classic liberal, but I'm strongly pro-life and I don't think legalizing marijuana is that big an issue. So I don't really fit in with the Libertarian party, and I caucus with the Republicans. (where what I going with this) Oh yes, if the Republicans actually grow a spine, maybe I won't be ashamed to caucus with them. And some of them seem to be moving in that directions.
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What's with the R's now-a-days? Are they taking HGH treatments or something? They all of a sudden seem to be growing a spine...
Whatever it is, I hope they continue the treatments.
Trump happened.
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Trump happened.
Yeah -- and they all hated him, and resisted him. Now? My e-mail inbox is flooded with messages from every Republican candidate and operative in the country, all asking me to send them money so they can help Trump Make America Great Again (c).
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Maybe not too late for some follow-up:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/10/26/democrat-media-complex-nbc-knew-that-third-kavanaugh-accusers-claim-was-trash-i-n2532207
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Maybe not too late for some follow-up:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/10/26/democrat-media-complex-nbc-knew-that-third-kavanaugh-accusers-claim-was-trash-i-n2532207
Aside from the door-scratching useful idiots, everyone knew it was trash.
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If the Justice Dept. doesn't take this case, Lady Justice will be the only real victim in this whole mess.
(https://www.labeshops.com/image/cache/catalog/pacificgifts/1886-lifesize-lady-justice-goddess-statue-500x550.jpg)
Terry, 230RN
pic credit:
https://www.labeshops.com/lady-justice-life-size-statue-1886
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Apparently making up these accusations is a little harder than it looks on TV:
Almost concurrently, but far more absurdly, a smear campaign shoddier than a Michael Avenatti joint unfolded. Around two weeks ago, multiple journalists began receiving tips from women claiming that someone offered them money to make up stories that Robert Mueller sexually assaulted them. On Tuesday, reporters from multiple outlets confirmed that the allegations, which Mueller referred to the FBI, were the product of a baseless smear campaign orchestrated and exposed by partisan Twitter personalities.
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Apparently making up these accusations is a little harder than it looks on TV:
Almost concurrently, but far more absurdly, a smear campaign shoddier than a Michael Avenatti joint unfolded. Around two weeks ago, multiple journalists began receiving tips from women claiming that someone offered them money to make up stories that Robert Mueller sexually assaulted them. On Tuesday, reporters from multiple outlets confirmed that the allegations, which Mueller referred to the FBI, were the product of a baseless smear campaign orchestrated and exposed by partisan Twitter personalities.
Nah. You just have to be sure the shills you choose to make the accusations are faithful members of the party.
If I were offered money to accuse some politician (or political activist/shyster) of something, I would laugh and turn it down but I don't think my first phone call would be to some national news organization. I find this entire story to be suspicious in itself.
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Referred to the Justice Department "for criminal investigation for providing false statements, obstructing congressional investigations, and conspiracy to violate federal law over allegations they made against then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh."
Music to my ears.
Go, Grassley !
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Apparently making up these accusations is a little harder than it looks on TV:
I saw that on twitchy. Looks like it was one guy trying to create a scandal. I hope they hammer him. I don't care which side is making up fake accusations, it needs to end.
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You just have to be sure the shills you choose to make the accusations are faithful members of the party.
It also helps if the shill shows up, and bonus point if you remember to zip up your fly before the press conference!
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/11/01/this-is-too-much-jacob-wohls-colleague-jack-burkman-reveals-some-um-unfinished-business-pic/
:rofl:
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Woman who accused Kavanaugh of rape admits she made it up. I'm guessing no consequences for Kamala Harris.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/02/holy-sit-woman-who-claimed-brett-kavanaugh-raped-her-now-says-she-made-the-whole-thing-up/
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Wow. I don't even remember that one.
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Woman who accused Kavanaugh of rape admits she made it up. I'm guessing no consequences for Kamala Harris.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/02/holy-sit-woman-who-claimed-brett-kavanaugh-raped-her-now-says-she-made-the-whole-thing-up/
Moron this story ;) from an actual new source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/ I'm surprised I found it anyplace other than Breitbart, newsmax or fox.
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Moron this story ;) from an actual new source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/02/brett-kavanaugh-accuser-referred-fbi-doj-investigation/1863210002/ I'm surprised I found it anyplace other than Breitbart, newsmax or fox.
You mean leftists might actually see that story now? Good grief ! What will they think?
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You mean leftists might actually see that story now? Good grief ! What will they think?
OBJECTION! Assuming a fact not in evidence!
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As we have seen recently in the Kavanaugh case, Mr. Hawkmoon, facts are no longer needed to support a case. Objection overruled. Please continue, Mr. 230RN.
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As we have seen recently in the Kavanaugh case, Mr. Hawkmoon, facts are no longer needed to support a case. Objection overruled. Please continue, Mr. 230RN.
It has long been the position of the Democrats that the facts of the matter are irrelevant, it is the seriousness of the allegations that matter.
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It has long been the position of the Democrats that the facts of the matter are irrelevant, it is the seriousness of the allegations that matter.
Unless serious allegations are made against a Democrat.
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As we have seen recently in the Kavanaugh case, Mr. Hawkmoon, facts are no longer needed to support a case. Objection overruled. Please continue, Mr. 230RN.
I was referring to your insinuation that leftists might "think."
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Necro:
Look who has come out of the woodwork:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/10/no-way-christine-blasey-ford-has-a-memoir-coming-out-this-year-n2392801
Just money, or part of a grand plan on the dem side for some kind of diversion? If the SC rules that Trump can be on ballots, I'm sure the calls to pack the court will reappear, and for that, they have to highlight the "bad conservative" justices.
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Timing is everything.
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And it's only February.
No telling what else is going to come out of the woodwork between now and Nov
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Necro:
Look who has come out of the woodwork:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/10/no-way-christine-blasey-ford-has-a-memoir-coming-out-this-year-n2392801
Just money, or part of a grand plan on the dem side for some kind of diversion? If the SC rules that Trump can be on ballots, I'm sure the calls to pack the court will reappear, and for that, they have to highlight the "bad conservative" justices.
Depends on the vote. It's sounding like 9-0 in Trumps favor isn't unlikely. Perhaps with different reasoning over 2-3 opinions.
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Necro:
Look who has come out of the woodwork:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/10/no-way-christine-blasey-ford-has-a-memoir-coming-out-this-year-n2392801
Just money, or part of a grand plan on the dem side for some kind of diversion? If the SC rules that Trump can be on ballots, I'm sure the calls to pack the court will reappear, and for that, they have to highlight the "bad conservative" justices.
The publishing/book racket is not unlike Hunters art racket. It's a money laundering scheme.
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I've always thought it would be interesting to track where all that book deal money comes from. I find it hard to believe many of these books actually make anywhere near their money back when you add up the cost of the deal plus printing and distribution costs.
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^^^
The two posts above mine are worth considering. Especially with these "D list" political celebrities. These books always seem to end up in the $5 bargain bin in like a month. I don't see how the publishers are making any kind of profit there. It might be cheaper than running traditional political ads though, with all the interviews on The View, et al.
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Depends on the vote. It's sounding like 9-0 in Trumps favor isn't unlikely. Perhaps with different reasoning over 2-3 opinions.
If it goes 9-0 you'll have to pick me up off the floor.
I have almost no doubt a certain 3 who are in the "the Constitution is a living doc" camp automatically knee jerked against Trump 0.05 seconds after it was announce it would go to the SC
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^^^
The two posts above mine are worth considering. Especially with these "D list" political celebrities. These books always seem to end up in the $5 bargain bin in like a month. I don't see how the publishers are making any kind of profit there. It might be cheaper than running traditional political ads though, with all the interviews on The View, et al.
Book fees, fees for speeches, probably fees to do TV interviews. I am sure there are 50 more legal ways to launder money directly to politcians.
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If it goes 9-0 you'll have to pick me up off the floor.
I have almost no doubt a certain 3 who are in the "the Constitution is a living doc" camp automatically knee jerked against Trump 0.05 seconds after it was announce it would go to the SC
I agree.
Kagan is a real lawyer. There's a [very] remote possibility that she'll render an honest opinion. As for the Wise Latina and Justice Katanja "What's a constitution?" Brown, I will be gobsmacked if they vote in favor of Trump.