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Title: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2018, 01:33:21 PM
Anyone have any good pie crust recipes? I always have blueberry cream pie for my birthday, and this year I want to make it myself. I think I'm gonna use this recipe:

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/blueberry-cream-pie/

Except I'd like to make a real pie crust instead of the crushed vanilla wafer thing.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: K Frame on December 12, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
I've used this one from Alton Brown. It's pretty good.

https://bakeorbreak.com/2007/11/alton-browns-pie-crust/

Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: charby on December 12, 2018, 02:04:23 PM
Lard, always lard, leaf lard if you can find it.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: BobR on December 12, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
Lard, always lard, leaf lard if you can find it.

And Vodka, replace half of the water in your pie crust recipe with ice cold vodka.


bob
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: MillCreek on December 12, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
https://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/p-p-p-pie_crust_and_its_p-p-p-perfect/

I have been using this recipe for decades and it really works well.  I like to make a double recipe and freeze one dough ball for later.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: makattak on December 12, 2018, 03:49:04 PM
Lard, always lard, leaf lard if you can find it.

Yes.
And Vodka, replace half of the water in your pie crust recipe with ice cold vodka.

Yes.

And, with Millcreek posting my favorite source for many recipes, it seems any contribution I could make to this thread has already been made.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2018, 04:25:09 PM
I always use lard with my biscuits, though leaf lard would have to be ordered. All I can get locally is Farmer John or whatever, which always seems to do well in the biscuits. I suppose it would be an easy swap for Crisco in that Pioneer woman recipe.

What's up with the vodka? I first thought Bob might be pulling my leg.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: makattak on December 12, 2018, 04:29:37 PM
I always use lard with my biscuits, though leaf lard would have to be ordered. All I can get locally is Farmer John or whatever, which always seems to do well in the biscuits. I suppose it would be an easy swap for Crisco in that Pioneer woman recipe.

What's up with the vodka? I first thought Bob might be pulling my leg.

I haven't cared enough to look up the whys and wherefores, but it makes the crust lighter.

https://patch.com/massachusetts/somerville/vodka-makes-a-perfect-pie-crust-every-time

Ok, I looked it up.

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In a nutshell, the reason why vodka works in pie crust comes down to basic chemistry. Gluten (an elastic chain of proteins) is formed when water mixes with flour. To avoid a tough, undesirable texture caused by too much gluten, most pie crust recipes don't include a large amount of water. However, this often leads to a dry crust that's difficult to work with. By using vodka there is plenty of liquid and the final result has an ideal, flaky texture.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: DittoHead on December 12, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
This recipe was handed down from my grandmother to my mother and finally to me.
Step 1:










(https://www.pillsbury.com/-/media/PB/Images/products/pie-crusts/pie-crusts-refridgerated.jpg)
 :angel:
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: Mannlicher on December 12, 2018, 05:05:53 PM
one of my old recipes.  Almost instant,  bullet proof
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Pie Pastry in the Food Processor




Two cups sifted AP flour
½ Teaspoon Salt
1 Tablespoon Sugar
1 Stick Butter, chilled, cut into pieces
3 Tablespoons Crisco or Lard, chilled
5 or 6 Tablespoons Ice Water

Place the dry ingredients in the Food Processor
Add the butter and shortening
Pulse about 30 times
With the Processor running, slowly add in the water, until a dough ball forms

Remove dough from the Food Processor, form into two flat discs.  Wrap in plastic wrap, and freeze, or place in refrigerator for half an hour. 
Roll out, and use for pie.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: BobR on December 12, 2018, 05:15:54 PM
This recipe was handed down from my grandmother to my mother and finally to me.
Step 1:


(https://www.pillsbury.com/-/media/PB/Images/products/pie-crusts/pie-crusts-refridgerated.jpg)
 :angel:

That's my go to, why putz around making a pie crust when it is available on the grocer's shelf? ;)

bob
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: DittoHead on December 12, 2018, 05:29:06 PM
That's my go to, why putz around making a pie crust when it is available on the grocer's shelf? ;)

bob
Maybe there are some serious crust lovers out there? I dunno.
At least for me, the crust of a pie (or more often quiche) is just an edible container for the good stuff.
It's like making tacos - Sure I'll make some delicious fillings (https://www.homesicktexan.com/2013/09/chilorio-mexican-pulled-pork.html) but I'm just buying the tortillas off the shelf.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: French G. on December 12, 2018, 07:00:00 PM
I have done a good butter crust, agree on the land and vodka though for preferred. I usually use dittoheads recipe though.

I want to try duck fat for many things, pie crust among them.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: K Frame on December 12, 2018, 07:38:06 PM
I will admit that I've  been using store bought pie crusts more and more the past few years. The Pillsbury and Betty Crocker ones are quite good, almost as good as what I make.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2018, 08:06:30 PM
I can buy bread in the store, but I don't do that either. :)

I'm sure the Betty Crocker is fine - I just wanna make this one from scratch. I'm retired - I've got nothin' better to do.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: BobR on December 12, 2018, 08:57:25 PM
I can buy bread in the store, but I don't do that either. :)

I'm sure the Betty Crocker is fine - I just wanna make this one from scratch. I'm retired - I've got nothin' better to do.  :laugh:

Clean some guns

Load Ammo

Shop online for AR parts

Start pricing suppressors

Start packing

See, just off the top of my head there are some things you can do. Life is too short to make pie crusts from scratch!!!   :P


bob

Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 13, 2018, 01:27:23 AM
This recipe was handed down from my grandmother to my mother and finally to me.
Step 1:



(https://www.pillsbury.com/-/media/PB/Images/products/pie-crusts/pie-crusts-refridgerated.jpg)
 :angel:

That's my recipe.

My mother used to make pie crusts from scratch. It took hours, as I recall. Much longer to make the crust than it took to fill and bake the pie.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: K Frame on December 13, 2018, 07:53:04 AM
If you can find it, get a low protein flour like pastry flour (Swann's cake flour) or White Lily.

The lower protein from the soft wheat makes a BIG difference when you're trying to avoid making gluten, which will make the crust tough.

If you have to go all purpose flour, go with the vodka (gin is also good) substitution that was recommended, as that cuts down on the water available for making gluten.

Cut your fat into the flour well. By coating some of the flour grains in fat, that helps keep them from absorbing water, which also cuts down on gluten formation.


And for god's sake, don't do what a friend did a few years ago and use bread flour because that's all he had. Those crusts were absolutely bullet proof.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: Ben on December 13, 2018, 08:33:23 AM

Cut your fat into the flour well. By coating some of the flour grains in fat, that helps keep them from absorbing water, which also cuts down on gluten formation.

That's what I do for biscuits. I think it makes a big difference. I'm really interested to try the booze.

That's funny about your friend and the bread flour.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: K Frame on December 13, 2018, 08:50:17 AM
Yeah, it was funny until 4 people broke their teeth on the crust...

OK, it wasn't that bad, but man, those were some tough crusts.
Title: Re: Pie Crust Recipes?
Post by: French G. on December 17, 2018, 10:39:10 AM
Yeah, it was funny until 4 people broke their teeth on the crust...

OK, it wasn't that bad, but man, those were some tough crusts.

Perhaps that's what my sister did. Crust was a handy improvised weapon.