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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on January 09, 2019, 04:16:02 PM
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Some of the stuff in the green new deal:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/01/09/just-wow-jim-geraghty-dives-into-not-so-pretty-fine-print-of-the-green-new-deal-and-yikes/
Some highlights:
Cut military spending by 50%
Eliminate all nuclear energy (Ben's "it's a fraud" detector immediately starts clanging) as well as natural gas (huh?)
Ban "non-essential personal transport" (I read that as cars)
Eliminate unemployment benefits (sounds good until you realize they replace them with a "govt job for everybody")
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:facepalm:
Do they want hunger games? Cause that's how you get Venezuela.
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Why you need to read the fine print in that “Green New Deal” everyone’s talking about
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This is the Green Party's "Green New Deal" which has been around for awhile.
Most of the "buzz" lately has been about Alexandria Orcasio-Cortez's "Green New Deal" which is different and I think even less defined (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jxUzp9SZ6-VB-4wSm8sselVMsqWZrSrYpYC9slHKLzo/edit). Also bad but it seems like people are confusing them.
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I would say it sounds like Communism, but I think it attempts to even more Totalitarian than that.
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Sounds more like the movie "Brazil"...
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This is the Green Party's "Green New Deal" which has been around for awhile.
Most of the "buzz" lately has been about Alexandria Orcasio-Cortez's "Green New Deal" which is different and I think even less defined (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jxUzp9SZ6-VB-4wSm8sselVMsqWZrSrYpYC9slHKLzo/edit). Also bad but it seems like people are confusing them.
If people are confusing them it certainly isn't the fault of those who are confused. If they are in fact two separate programs the fault is hers for using the same name and creating that confusion.
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This is the Green Party's "Green New Deal" which has been around for awhile.
Most of the "buzz" lately has been about Alexandria Orcasio-Cortez's "Green New Deal" which is different and I think even less defined (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jxUzp9SZ6-VB-4wSm8sselVMsqWZrSrYpYC9slHKLzo/edit). Also bad but it seems like people are confusing them.
Here's what is being proposed:
(A) The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall be developed with the objective of reaching the following outcomes within the target window of 10 years from the start of execution of the Plan:
Dramatically expand existing renewable power sources and deploy new production capacity with the goal of meeting 100% of national power demand through renewable sources;
building a national, energy-efficient, “smart” grid;
upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety;
eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries, including by investing in local-scale agriculture in communities across the country;
eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from, repairing and improving transportation and other infrastructure, and upgrading water infrastructure to ensure universal access to clean water;
funding massive investment in the drawdown of greenhouse gases;
making “green” technology, industry, expertise, products and services a major export of the United States, with the aim of becoming the undisputed international leader in helping other countries transition to completely greenhouse gas neutral economies and bringing about a global Green New Deal.
(B) The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation. In furtherance of the foregoing, the Plan (and the draft legislation) shall:
provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one;
diversify local and regional economies, with a particular focus on communities where the fossil fuel industry holds significant control over the labor market, to ensure workers have the necessary tools, opportunities, and economic assistance to succeed during the energy transition;
require strong enforcement of labor, workplace safety, and wage standards that recognize the rights of workers to organize and unionize free of coercion, intimidation, and harassment, and creation of meaningful, quality, career employment;
ensure a ‘just transition’ for all workers, low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities and the front-line communities most affected by climate change, pollution and other environmental harm including by ensuring that local implementation of the transition is led from the community level and by prioritizing solutions that end the harms faced by front-line communities from climate change and environmental pollution;
protect and enforce sovereign rights and land rights of tribal nations;
mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities in such a way that builds wealth and ownership at the community level);
include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism; and
deeply involve national and local labor unions to take a leadership role in the process of job training and worker deployment.
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I was curious what they intended to use after banning everything. I guess all farming equipment and food distribution would use biofuels.
(https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/images/charts/energy_consumption_by_source_large.jpg)
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On the plus side, this might take care of that illegal immigration problem. =D
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If those idiots think we're crazy for having a line in the sand WRT the 2nd Amendment, They're gonna love the normies reaction to banning cars.
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Environmentalists are like watermelons:
Green on the outside, but red on the inside.
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I was curious what they intended to use after banning everything. I guess all farming equipment and food distribution would use biofuels.
(https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/images/charts/energy_consumption_by_source_large.jpg)
SO we currently get 2.45% of our energy needs from Wind and Solar. Which lines up with other sources that say we get ~3% from "renewables"....
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My first thought was that it sounded like The Five Year Plan to me. Except, of course, for ten years. Can't rush things too much wih a people used to being free, you know.
My second thought was, "Who pointed out that Leftists never remember anything that happened before yesterday?"
Terry, 230RN
REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_five-year_plan
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Sounds more like the movie "Brazil"...
So time to brush up on HVAC skills?
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What ever did happen to Harold Tuttle ?? He hasn't posted in two years...
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Feinstein responding to constituents on the green new deal. Not what you might expect. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/22/nyt-basically-confirms-what-sen-dianne-feinstein-was-trying-to-get-across-to-those-smirking-kids-on-the-green-new-deal/
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Feinstein responding to constituents on the green new deal. Not what you might expect. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/22/nyt-basically-confirms-what-sen-dianne-feinstein-was-trying-to-get-across-to-those-smirking-kids-on-the-green-new-deal/
I wouldn't say she's responding to them, Bob.
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I wouldn't say she's responding to them, Bob.
Whatever you say, Herman. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E2w4sTLKtA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E2w4sTLKtA
Oh. :laugh:
I haven't watched that in forever. I need to watch it again and refamiliarize myself with the references. :laugh:
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It's baaaaack with some add ons
According to a press release by Markey’s office, the Green New Deal for Health "boldly reimagines a health care system that is prepared and empowered to protect the health and well-being of our workers, our communities, and our planet."
The proposal includes numerous socialistic and progressive policies, including a $130 billion investment in community health centers, $100 billion in new government grants to improve medical facilities’ "climate resilience and disaster mitigation efforts," and countless new climate change regulations meant to establish a "green medical supply chain."
But perhaps the most important and far-reaching reform offered by the Green New Deal for Health is one that has received virtually no media coverage. The Green New Deal for Health would establish a new office within the Department of Health and Human Services called the Office of Climate Change and Health Equity.
The proposed Climate Change and Health Equity Office would oversee facilitating "a robust, Federal response to the impact of climate change on the health of the American people and the health care system."
The Climate Change and Health Equity Office would also be tasked with creating government reports showing the "physical, mental, and behavioral health consequences of climate change," developing tools to track carbon-dioxide emissions, and leading "efforts to reduce the carbon footprint" of the health care industry.
The Green New Deal is back, and it’s more radical than ever
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/green-new-deal-back-more-radical-than-ever
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It's baaaaack with some add ons
The Green New Deal is back, and it’s more radical than ever
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/green-new-deal-back-more-radical-than-ever
I always thought the entire global warming stuff was the basis for a colossal scam that made Bernie Madoff's shenanigans look like a game of three card Monte in some back alley. Everything I've read from your post confirms my suspicions.
But over the past few years with Brandon in office, I'm also seeing foreign interests (cough - China - cough) actively promoting this kind of cr@p as part of their long term program to diminish America. Chinese money can buy American politicians and fund a new generation of "useful idiots."
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I always thought the entire global warming stuff was the basis for a colossal scam that made Bernie Madoff's shenanigans look like a game of three card Monte in some back alley. Everything I've read from your post confirms my suspicions.
But over the past few years with Brandon in office, I'm also seeing foreign interests (cough - China - cough) actively promoting this kind of cr@p as part of their long term program to diminish America. Chinese money can buy American politicians and fund a new generation of "useful idiots."
There may be some of that going on but I think more of it is coming from the natural tendency of modern libs to want to be in total control of everything* for what they perceive as for some "common good" cause.
*Criminals, at least as long as they're useful, and select elite groups excluded of course
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I would say it sounds like Communism, but I think it attempts to even more Totalitarian than that.
All governments trend toward tyranny. It is the essential function of government to progressively limit freedom.
There are times I think the last laws that enhanced freedom were passed on December 15th, 1791. And even those are constantly under attack.
Terry, 230RN
"Actually, you're much safer with me with a gun than you are with me without a gun."
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. . . There are times I think the last laws that enhanced freedom were passed on December 15th, 1791. And even those are constantly under attack . . .
Some say it only took about 3 years for the first major attack on freedom, when none other than President George Washington used about 15,000 or so Federal troops against Pennsylvania farmers and distillers who weren't paying whiskey taxes during what came to be called the Whiskey Rebellion.