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Title: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 11, 2019, 12:30:45 AM
https://nypost.com/2019/01/10/ocasio-cortez-passed-over-for-influential-house-committee/

Apparently Ms. Ocasio-Cortez wanted to be on the Ways and Means Committee -- even though freshmen typically aren't named to that committee. She didn't make the cut. I hope she finds herself banished to a few backwater committees that don't affect anything.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: 230RN on January 11, 2019, 02:38:12 AM
Poof !  There goes my prediction that they'd put her on either the Rules or the Judiciary Committee.

Drat.  Wrong again.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MikeB on January 11, 2019, 05:18:27 AM
Probably being selected for the Committee on Vapid Thought and Silly Ideas. Possibly to head the committee, but I guess they usually don’t select freshman members to head committees, but may make an exception for her.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: 230RN on January 11, 2019, 06:07:38 AM
There are other members who are more experienced in vapid thinking, even if they are not as good as she, who could chair the Committee on Vapid Thought and Silly Ideas.

If she were appointed chairperson of something, could we call her the Chairchick?

I don't know. Somehow she reminds me of Kelly Bundy.  "Gee, my hair tastes good today !"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 11, 2019, 08:29:12 AM
She's really going full tilt to self-destruct. Now she's dissing Joe Lieberman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6581851/New-party-dis-Ocasio-Cortez-mocks-aging-Joe-Liberman-hoping-shes-not-future.html

I didn't like Lieberman when he was in office, but I respected him. As for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, she's going to be in for some real-life bitch slapping very soon if she doesn't STFU. You just don't pee on someone who was your party's VP candidate and who served for 24 years in the senate. Her problem is that she seems to believe her press releases.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 11, 2019, 08:51:21 AM
If someone wants to say I'm going on an old guy rant, I'm good with that.

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'New party, who dis?'

That's a member of congress. Is this where we are? We're going to be doing rappers and "urban speak" in congress now? I mean, that's straight out of Comacho's administration in Idiocracy.

If that keeps up, congress is going to look like the Jerry Springer show, where you have a bunch of dumbass white suburbanites talking like urban black yutes.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on January 11, 2019, 08:57:39 AM
She’s so over the top I’ve read speculation that she’s a Trumpster plant to discredit the hard left.

Nobody seems to want to believe the left actually believes what they say and wants to force us by government fiat and violence to obey them.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on January 11, 2019, 09:45:47 AM
Her teeth remind me of Jimmy Carter....

 =D =D =D =D =D


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on January 11, 2019, 10:02:26 AM
I’ve also read that she is doing exactly what Pelosi wants her to do, make Pelosi and Schumer seem “moderate”.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 11, 2019, 10:05:24 AM
Occams razor applies.  She was elected by a combination of Bernites and minorities.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/01/ocasio-cortez-data-suggests-that-gentrifying-neighborhoods-powered-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-victory-over-the-democratic-establishment/
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This portrait of a diverse electorate lifting Ocasio-Cortez to victory contrasts starkly with the prevalent media narrative, which attributes Ocasio-Cortez’s win to demographic factors alone. To myriad pundits, the explanation for her success is simple: The district is increasingly populated by Latinos and other nonwhite voters, and they chose Ocasio-Cortez because they simply did not want a white man like Joe Crowley representing them.

Literally elected by virtue of being a minority woman, with no nod to any accomplishments or credentials. 
Stupid people vote for stupid people.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on January 11, 2019, 10:12:06 AM
Occams razor applies.  She was elected by a combination of Bernites and minorities.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/01/ocasio-cortez-data-suggests-that-gentrifying-neighborhoods-powered-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-victory-over-the-democratic-establishment/
Literally elected by virtue of being a minority woman, with no nod to any accomplishments or credentials.  
Stupid people vote for stupid people.


I tend to agree with you on this.

While I’m willing to consider other possibilities, if push came to shove I’m with you, identity/tribal politics.

How’s that diversity working out for you former congressman Crowley?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 11, 2019, 10:25:06 AM
I tend to agree with you on this.

While I’m willing to consider other possibilities, if push came to shove I’m with you, identity/tribal politics.

How’s that diversity working out for you former congressman Crowley?

If we're lucky it will start to tear the Democrat party apart.  Dissention within the ranks.
However, the GOP is too stupid to seize upon it and solidify. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 11, 2019, 11:10:36 AM
Occams razor applies.  She was elected by a combination of Bernites and minorities.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/01/ocasio-cortez-data-suggests-that-gentrifying-neighborhoods-powered-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-victory-over-the-democratic-establishment/
Literally elected by virtue of being a minority woman, with no nod to any accomplishments or credentials.  
Stupid people vote for stupid people.


I also agree with this.

A big problem, and we here contribute to it, is all the press this first term, zero accomplishment person gets. She gets nearly as much media exposure as Trump, while new congressmen like Dan Crenshaw get relatively none.

Obviously from my posts and links here, people know I love getting a good laugh out of Twitchy. However I'd give that up in a heartbeat if Twitter just up and died tomorrow.

It was started with good intentions, and even showed some early on - like getting news reports out of regions of the world where the press was shut down, getting near real time updates during emergencies and disasters, etc. It has now just become a hate platform the brings out the worst in people across the political spectrum, and makes "stars" out of idiots that otherwise would have little or no news coverage. Bronx chick would likely be just another new member of congress if it weren't for the constant social media deluge.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 11, 2019, 01:01:25 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fellow-dems-chastise-ocasio-cortez-185337256.html

Useful idiots like her are great for the dem establishment...until they get elected  :rofl:

I bet she'd be insane in the sack.  But then you'd have to worry about getting your car set on fire for not texting her back...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: 230RN on January 14, 2019, 04:11:40 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fellow-dems-chastise-ocasio-cortez-185337256.html

Useful idiots like her are great for the dem establishment...until they get elected  :rofl:

Ditto on your roffle.

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I bet she'd be insane in the sack.  But then you'd have to worry about getting your car set on fire for not texting her back...

Ayup.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on January 15, 2019, 10:09:52 PM
Looks like she's on financial services committee:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-tlaib-among-progressive-firebrands-set-to-join-maxine-waters-on-key-financial-services-committee


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on January 23, 2019, 06:19:46 AM
House oversight now too:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/426529-ocasio-cortez-among-progressives-joining-house-oversight-report


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 23, 2019, 06:36:12 AM
House oversight now too:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/426529-ocasio-cortez-among-progressives-joining-house-oversight-report


Any bets on how long it takes her to blather classified and/or confidential material all over the social mediaverse?

Because, you know... for the children.

Brad


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2019, 06:54:18 AM
Any bets on how long it takes her to blather classified and/or confidential material all over the social mediaverse?

Because, you know... for the children.

Brad

That is an absolute, real, scary, concern. I truly fear that around a half a dozen or so of these new congresscritters, if given a clearance, will treat it as a joke. I can only hope no US citizens or assets die in the name of popular politics and loose lips.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 23, 2019, 07:15:42 AM
Any bets on how long it takes her to blather classified and/or confidential material all over the social mediaverse?



For which she'll never face any consequence.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2019, 08:19:03 AM

For which she'll never face any consequence.

Well she is the new and improved Clinton


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: HankB on January 23, 2019, 09:00:23 AM
. . . the GOP is too stupid to seize upon it and solidify. 
QFT . . . and applicable to many, MANY squandered opportunities in the past.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on January 23, 2019, 09:17:07 AM
If we're lucky it will start to tear the Democrat party apart.  Dissention within the ranks.
However, the GOP is too stupid to seize upon it and solidify. 

Republicans are reactionary and conservative, not socially conservative but in maintaining the status quo.

Any proactive plans to take back any ground lost to the Leftists is attacked without mercy by the mainstream media, Democrats, half the Republicans and the entire entertainment establishment, sorry for the redundancy.

The one exception to the above is when economic decisions will help their donors, then change is OK.

Republicans aren’t stupid, they are just weak, subservient and hollow, not willing to ofend leftists even if it requires selling out their voters and being humiliated. The best they can manage is tough talk before they bend over and submit.

The above is a general rule, not written in stone.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2019, 10:40:26 AM
Man, her and her "team" hate everybody. Check out the account name of one of her staff, who uses it to release "official" tweets:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/01/23/rep-ocasio-cortez-adviser-explains-why-money-hoarding-bill-gates-wealth-belongs-in-govt-hands-facepalms-ensue/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 24, 2019, 01:20:12 PM
Man, her and her "team" hate everybody. Check out the account name of one of her staff, who uses it to release "official" tweets:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/01/23/rep-ocasio-cortez-adviser-explains-why-money-hoarding-bill-gates-wealth-belongs-in-govt-hands-facepalms-ensue/

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The acquisition of that much wealth has bad consequences. A moral society needs guardrails against it


Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who remembers a time, about 5 or 10 years ago, when bringing morality into politics was the most horrible, Nazi, Handmaid's Tale thing you could do. Now they want the government to put up "guardrails" against immorality?

Do people really not notice how quickly and completely the Left has flipped from "Get your laws off my body/out of my bedroom" to being the "everything is problematic" morality police?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on January 24, 2019, 02:34:12 PM

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who remembers a time, about 5 or 10 years ago, when bringing morality into politics was the most horrible, Nazi, Handmaid's Tale thing you could do. Now they want the government to put up "guardrails" against immorality?

Do people really not notice how quickly and completely the Left has flipped from "Get your laws off my body/out of my bedroom" to being the "everything is problematic" morality police?

I know a lot of folks roll their eyes when I start ranting about propaganda but honestly this state of affairs didn’t happen accidentally.

The manipulation of the masses was a learned skill back before modern electronic media. You think the understanding and tools are less powerful now?



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: gunsmith on January 24, 2019, 09:09:10 PM
Occams razor applies.  She was elected by a combination of Bernites and minorities.

https://theintercept.com/2018/07/01/ocasio-cortez-data-suggests-that-gentrifying-neighborhoods-powered-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-victory-over-the-democratic-establishment/
Literally elected by virtue of being a minority woman, with no nod to any accomplishments or credentials. 
Stupid people vote for stupid people.


absolutely 100 % correct.
maybe the only thing you missed is they're also deliberately ignorant


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2019, 05:27:07 AM
She's a gem. 
Democrats win the shutdown battle with trump.
Guess who the only Dem to vote against opening the government, and paying federal employees was....?
ODC that's who (media has begun abbreviating her name  :facepalm:)
https://nypost.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-again-only-dem-to-vote-against-bill-to-reopen-government/
Because ICE is her excuse.
Pelosi was so giddy when she got elected.... :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 05:34:04 AM
She's a gem. 
Democrats win the shutdown battle with trump.
Guess who the only Dem to vote against opening the government, and paying federal employees was....?
ODC that's who (media has begun abbreviating her name  :facepalm:)
https://nypost.com/2019/01/24/ocasio-cortez-again-only-dem-to-vote-against-bill-to-reopen-government/
Because ICE is her excuse.
Pelosi was so giddy when she got elected.... :rofl:

Been seeing AOC as the abbreviation for some time. In fact if you type AOC into google Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez comes up.
Where are you seeing ODC?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2019, 05:45:53 AM
Been seeing AOC as the abbreviation for some time. In fact if you type AOC into google Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez comes up.
Where are you seeing ODC?

I was being sarcastic with the initials misspelled.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 05:48:16 AM
I was being sarcastic with the initials misspelled.
Okay, thought maybe something was going there that I wasn't aware of.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: HeroHog on January 27, 2019, 08:24:00 AM
Old Dumb something that starts with C?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 08:38:39 AM
Old Dumb something that starts with C?
Well, I wouldn't call her old (29) so maybe the O means Odorous?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 08:51:04 AM
Lets not forget she's in congress because a grand total of 15,897 people voted for her in the primary and 110,318 in the main.
According to wiki 14th NY has a total pop of 691,615 (2016)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: French G. on January 27, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Lets not forget she's in congress because a grand total of 15,897 people voted for her in the primary and 110,318 in the main.

No worse than being in your state senate because you were hand picked and elected in a completely one party area. She's president material!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 09:02:31 AM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2019, 09:04:29 AM
It's fine to make fun of some of the dumb stuff she does - I do that myself. However lets keep away from foul language descriptions, including allusions to the descriptors. Thanks.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
Noted


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: HeroHog on January 27, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Clown? Crank? Coot? Crazy?

Ok, I understand and promise to "play nice."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 27, 2019, 10:27:11 AM
Clown? Crank? Coot? Crazy?

Ok, I understand and promise to "play nice."

How about just plane old Communist


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 27, 2019, 11:50:08 AM
(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/99B48398-8269-4E9F-85B9-0898F71583A6.jpeg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2019, 12:15:42 PM
Old Dumb something that starts with C?

I was absolutely not implying anything of the sort and lets keep this on track.

I was making fun of the media abbreviating her down to her initials.  Like she's Cher or Prince or some *expletive deleted*it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Doggy Daddy on January 27, 2019, 01:30:28 PM
I was absolutely not implying anything of the sort and lets keep this on track.

I was making fun of the media abbreviating her down to her initials.  Like she's Cher or Prince or some *expletive deleted*it.

Oh, she's definitely "some *expletive deleted*it".


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 28, 2019, 11:45:47 AM
Media criticized by the right: "You filthy nazi bastards that hate the heroes of journalism!"

Media criticized by AOC: "We deserve it and please may we have some more?"

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/01/28/kiss-the-ring-brian-stelter-flat-out-humiliates-himself-at-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-feet-video-screenshot/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 05, 2019, 10:16:50 AM
(https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/pelosi-eating-tide-pods-wow-these-are-pretty-good-ocasio-cortez-see-i-told-you.jpg?resize=480%2C637&ssl=1)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on February 05, 2019, 10:28:27 AM
She was asked about Roe vs Wade, and said she would prefer row across the Rio Grande because she doesn't want to get her shoes wet by wading.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 05, 2019, 11:03:42 AM
She was asked about Roe vs Wade, and said she would prefer row across the Rio Grande because she doesn't want to get her shoes wet by wading.

Wrong ethnicity, and she was born here, anyway. I don't believe one can wade from Puerto Rico to the U.S.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 05, 2019, 11:21:03 AM
Wrong ethnicity, and she was born here, anyway. I don't believe one can wade from Puerto Rico to the U.S.

High heels.

Really, really high heels.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 05, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
Wrong ethnicity, and she was born here, anyway. I don't believe one can wade from Puerto Rico to the U.S.

Since Puerto Rico is part of the United States she could just take a Uber.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 05, 2019, 01:29:30 PM
Since Puerto Rico is part of the United States she could just take a Uber.

Pardon. Mainland U.S.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 06, 2019, 05:19:51 AM
AOC when asked about Trump's socialism remarks in the State of the Union speech

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    .@HardballChris asked @AOC about Trump tying the "notion of socialism" to the Maduro regime.

    "He feels like he feels himself losing on the issues. Every single policy proposal that we've adopted and presented to the American public has been overwhelmingly popular." @AOC pic.twitter.com/b8zdRuJZ6A

    — Hardball (@hardball) February 6, 2019
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    .@AOC: “Even some with a majority of Republican voters supporting what we’re talking about. When we talk about a 70% marginal tax rate on incomes over $10 million, 60% Americans approve it.”

    — Hardball (@hardball) February 6, 2019
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/02/06/what-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tries-to-defend-honor-of-socialism-after-trump-invokes-venezuela-at-sotu-video/

She's in her own little world.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: grampster on February 06, 2019, 05:42:18 AM
You want to tax those who earn over 5 million dollars @70%?  I'm opposed to an increase in taxes but here's an idea.  When a person reaches an income over 5 million dollars give them a choice.  Pay a higher rate of tax on the amount over 5 million or show/prove/document that income is being invested into the economy somehow, be it reinvested in a business or for charitable purposes.  That way 100% of whatever that rate might be is not looted by the Federal Government first.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2019, 06:16:12 AM
She's telling kids to save the planet by skipping meat and dairy and eating a banana, without apparently realizing that our bazillion tons of bananas are all imported via evil fossil fuels. Man, she's a moron. A locally grown grass fed steak probably produces half the carbon of a bunch of imported bananas.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tells-teens-that-eating-a-banana-with-peanut-butter-for-breakfast-will-combat-global-warming/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 06, 2019, 07:04:21 AM
She should ring up the governor of New York and ask him how that higher tax rate on the rich is working out.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 06, 2019, 07:16:39 AM
She should ring up the governor of New York and ask him how that higher tax rate on the rich is working out.

Trump's fault

Nolte: Gov. Cuomo Falsely Blames Trump for New York’s $2.3 Billion Budget Shortfall
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/05/nolte-gov-cuomo-falsely-blames-trump-for-new-yorks-2-3-billion-budget-shortfall/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2019, 07:20:59 AM
She should ring up the governor of New York and ask him how that higher tax rate on the rich is working out.

I read that yesterday with a smile. I like how he said it was hurting taxpayers, and the only way to help the taxpayers was to further tax the taxpayers.  :laugh:

Though I did see that he said some blurb about, "I guess if you keep taxing the rich more and more, the rich will leave." Of course I think he was blaming Trump for that, not the fact that property taxes are so high there, nor all the social programs that were counting on those dollars. Kind of a, "Trump caused the rich to see how much we were taxing them at the state level."

Edit: WLJ got in the "Trump's fault" while I was typing.  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 06, 2019, 07:21:27 AM
And BTW, 70% taxes are so last week

The one per cent must pay their fair share': Democratic Representative Ilhan Omar calls for tax on the wealthy of 'up to NINETY PER CENT'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6657075/Democratic-Representative-Ilhan-Omar-calls-tax-wealthy-90-cent.html


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 06, 2019, 07:29:49 AM
And BTW, 70% taxes are so last week

The one per cent must pay their fair share': Democratic Representative Ilhan Omar calls for tax on the wealthy of 'up to NINETY PER CENT'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6657075/Democratic-Representative-Ilhan-Omar-calls-tax-wealthy-90-cent.html


Yeah, if AOC truly cared about the poor, she'd be calling for 90%. It's for the children.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2019, 01:16:37 PM
My favorite comment:

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When you reach the front of the line but they're all out of bread.

 :rofl:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/06/caption-contest-heres-the-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-gif-we-cant-stop-watching/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 06, 2019, 04:26:04 PM
And BTW, 70% taxes are so last week

The one per cent must pay their fair share': Democratic Representative Ilhan Omar calls for tax on the wealthy of 'up to NINETY PER CENT'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6657075/Democratic-Representative-Ilhan-Omar-calls-tax-wealthy-90-cent.html
I would be curious to see the income of billionaires in this country and see what their actual annual income is.  People always forget that income does not necessarily equal wealth and wealthy people can always reorganize to make their income whatever they need it to be. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 06, 2019, 05:54:07 PM
I would be curious to see the income of billionaires in this country and see what their actual annual income is.  People always forget that income does not necessarily equal wealth and wealthy people can always reorganize to make their income whatever they need it to be. 

Yeah. Like "Income? I don't have any income at all. I just have a pile of gold ingots in a vault in the Cayman Islands."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Kingcreek on February 06, 2019, 06:29:04 PM
Take the top 1%
Seize all their assets
Make 99% of the people happy!
See? I could be a new (democratic) congressperson!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2019, 06:33:17 PM
Take the top 1%
Seize all their assets

Cover medicare for all for about three weeks

Fixed.  =D


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 06, 2019, 06:36:19 PM
Add Blame Trump when it all collapses


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: grampster on February 06, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
If the Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot, maybe we can draft the Dirty Jobs guy to run in 2020.  He'd trounce The Donald in a primary and I think the Ds might get a million or so votes...total, in the general election.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 07, 2019, 05:55:08 AM
If the Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot, maybe we can draft the Dirty Jobs guy to run in 2020.  He'd trounce The Donald in a primary and I think the Ds might get a million or so votes...total, in the general election.
The D's have more illegal votes than that. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2019, 07:32:30 AM
Oh man! Here's one time when I like what Nancy Pelosi says (on Bronxy's green deal):

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“It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive,” Pelosi told Politico on Wednesday. “The green dream or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it right?”

 :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 07:34:49 AM
Pot, this is Kettle. Kettle, this is pot.

If I was there I would have asked her "You mean just like with Obama Care?"
I would pay good money to see the look on her face after that.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 07:40:37 AM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2019, 10:40:30 AM
I can see why Pelosi might be distancing herself from AOC right now:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/02/07/who-the-hell-wrote-this-details-of-aocs-green-new-deal-are-something-else-screenshots/

"Eliminate all air travel and replace with trains" What about the ATC workers you were supporting in the shutdown? Now you want to eliminate their jobs?

"Update or replace EVERY building in the US with green power".

"Economic security for everyone in the US who is unable or UNWILLING to work."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 10:49:12 AM
Quote
We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 yearsbecause we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of  farting cows and airplanes that fast,

WTF? It actually says that


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 10:52:19 AM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2019, 02:14:31 PM
So I guess no farting cows would mean no cows and by extension no pigs no chickens and so on. Guess we all need to start buying vegan cookbooks, right?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Firethorn on February 07, 2019, 04:02:31 PM
We don't need 70 or 90%.  We just need to limit the long term capital gains rate so that the uber rich aren't paying less than their secretaries.

Phase it out at around $100k or so so that people who worked for their money aren't paying more taxes than those that simply got returns from investments.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 08, 2019, 06:22:05 AM
"Latinos should be exempt from immigration laws"

As I always say, the only immigrants the left seems to think exist are those from South of the border.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-calls-to-abolish-ice-says-latinos-must-be-exempt-from-immigration-laws-because-they-are-native-to-us


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 08, 2019, 06:28:18 AM
"Latinos should be exempt from immigration laws"

As I always say, the only immigrants the left seems to think exist are those from South of the border.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-calls-to-abolish-ice-says-latinos-must-be-exempt-from-immigration-laws-because-they-are-native-to-us

Useful voters


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 08, 2019, 07:43:21 AM
"Latinos should be exempt from immigration laws"

As I always say, the only immigrants the left seems to think exist are those from South of the border.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-calls-to-abolish-ice-says-latinos-must-be-exempt-from-immigration-laws-because-they-are-native-to-us

 :laugh:  What does she think Latino means? Does she think the average Argentinian traces his heritage to Arizona, or something? Does she think every Latin American is mestizo?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 08, 2019, 10:05:50 AM
:laugh:  What does she think Latino means? Does she think the average Argentinian traces his heritage to Arizona, or something? Does she think every Latin American is mestizo?

You seem to be assuming she is actually capable of thinking. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 08, 2019, 02:06:24 PM
:laugh:  What does she think Latino means? Does she think the average Argentinian traces his heritage to Arizona, or something? Does she think every Latin American is mestizo?

She has no idea. To her it's just a word.

My late wife was a Latina. She considered herself a Latina and was proud of it. She died before gaining U.S. citizenship, so she made no pretense of being "American," even though her native country is in South America. And she absolutely refused to consider herself "Hispanic." Her view? "I'm not from Spain, how can I be Hispanic? These classifications are stupid!"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 08, 2019, 02:23:10 PM
She has no idea. To her it's just a word.

My late wife was a Latina. She considered herself a Latina and was proud of it. She died before gaining U.S. citizenship, so she made no pretense of being "American," even though her native country is in South America. And she absolutely refused to consider herself "Hispanic." Her view? "I'm not from Spain, how can I be Hispanic? These classifications are stupid!"


So was she from Latium?

Do you realize you tell the story of your wife and her preferred demonym about once a month?  :P


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 08, 2019, 08:27:31 PM

Do you realize you tell the story of your wife and her preferred demonym about once a month?  :P

No. Is it that often?

Sorry, but I miss her.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on February 08, 2019, 08:44:51 PM
No. Is it that often?

Sorry, but I miss her.

He exaggerates, a little bit ;) and I’m sure he doesn’t mind any more than the rest of us, it’s endearing.

You tell your stories whenever the mood strikes you.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Fly320s on February 09, 2019, 04:58:53 AM
We don't need 70 or 90%.  We just need to limit the long term capital gains rate so that the uber rich aren't paying less than their secretaries.

Phase it out at around $100k or so so that people who worked for their money aren't paying more taxes than those that simply got returns from investments.

Or we could make everyone, regardless of type or amount of income, pay the same rate.  At flat 15% for every dollar earned in any way is probably enough to cover the budget.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: adively on February 09, 2019, 06:25:51 AM
He exaggerates, a little bit ;) and I’m sure he doesn’t mind any more than the rest of us, it’s endearing.

You tell your stories whenever the mood strikes you.



I agree with Ron, please tell your stories whenever the mood strikes you.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 09, 2019, 06:45:09 AM
Or we could make everyone, regardless of type or amount of income, pay the same rate.  At flat 15% for every dollar earned in any way is probably enough to cover the budget.

Agreed, and I've always thought that 15 percent might be the right number. I think there might be some "floor" beneath which income isn't taxed at all, but that should be low -- like around the poverty level. Maybe the first $20,000 or $25,000 isn't taxed, and all income above that is taxed at the same rate.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 09, 2019, 09:41:10 AM
Or here's a novel idea.  Eliminate the 16th amendment, let the states levy taxes as they will, and shrink the size of the federal government back down.
The 16th is the amendment that killed federalism. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 09, 2019, 04:53:28 PM
Wait a minute, it wasn't free  ???

Ocasio-Cortez Campaign Film Draws Top Dollar From Netflix
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-07/ocasio-cortez-campaign-film-draws-top-dollar-from-netflix

Quote
The studio paid $10 million for the movie, estimated to be the most ever for a documentary, according to industry website Deadline.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 09, 2019, 05:22:57 PM
She should be taxed at at least 70%.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: gunsmith on February 09, 2019, 06:33:37 PM
He exaggerates, a little bit ;) and I’m sure he doesn’t mind any more than the rest of us, it’s endearing.

You tell your stories whenever the mood strikes you.



Please sir.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on February 09, 2019, 08:45:47 PM
It probably wouldn’t surprise many of you here to know I read/have read a lot from what is called the alt-right and neo-reactionary alternative “media”.

I ran across this take on AOC and just have to share.

http://www.amerika.org/politics/aoc/

Just to make it clear, this guy is a nihilist and his prescriptions do not represent my views on all the current issues of the day in any way. While I’m cynical and skeptical about much I find life bursting at the seams with meaning.

His analysis of AOC resonates with me.

I do believe she has the similar gift/skill that Trump has and we shouldn’t right her off as crazy, nutty, dumb etc.

It could be all hokum also, but Trump becoming President and his odd effectiveness after such an unlikely win has forced me to think outside the box about a bunch of stuff.

Remember, she’s not trying to convince us, she has a target audience she is trying to persuade.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 10, 2019, 05:07:05 AM
It probably wouldn’t surprise many of you here to know I read/have read a lot from what is called the alt-right and neo-reactionary alternative “media”.

I ran across this take on AOC and just have to share.

http://www.amerika.org/politics/aoc/

Just to make it clear, this guy is a nihilist and his prescriptions do not represent my views on all the current issues of the day in any way. While I’m cynical and skeptical about much I find life bursting at the seams with meaning.

His analysis of AOC resonates with me.

I do believe she has the similar gift/skill that Trump has and we shouldn’t right her off as crazy, nutty, dumb etc.

It could be all hokum also, but Trump becoming President and his odd effectiveness after such an unlikely win has forced me to think outside the box about a bunch of stuff.

Remember, she’s not trying to convince us, she has a target audience she is trying to persuade.

She's also the champion of an ignorant generation. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on February 10, 2019, 05:27:20 AM
I do believe she has the similar gift/skill that Trump has and we shouldn’t right her off as crazy, nutty, dumb etc.
Remember, she’s not trying to convince us, she has a target audience she is trying to persuade.

Jonah Goldberg had a very similar take in NRO awhile back. I think it's pretty accurate.
Quote from: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-controversy-playbook-right-left/
In other words, AOC is quite brilliantly playing a lot of people for suckers. She already has more Twitter followers than the other 60 incoming freshman Democrats combined.

Ocasio-Cortez, wittingly or not, has appropriated a technique mastered by President Trump.

Trump prefers positive attention, but he’ll take negative attention over no attention every time, in part because he knows his supporters will intensify their dedication to him in response to allegedly unfair attacks. AOC is doing the same thing. By forcing partisans to take sides, she generates controversy. Controversy attracts media attention. Media attention generates even more controversy. And so on.

As with Trump, sometimes she clearly knows what she’s doing, and other times she simply displays her ignorance. But at this stage, it doesn’t matter. The more right-wing partisans attack her, the more left-wing partisans rally to her. The more left-wingers rally to her, the more justified the Right feels in paying attention to her.
She's building a brand and at this stage, any attention is going to help her.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 10, 2019, 05:47:28 AM
I'm not sure I'd call it "brilliant".  Her twitter following is an echo chamber.  She is surrounded by people who prop her stupidity up.
But it's not to be underestimated. 
She truly believes the communist idiocy she spouts.  I believe that in my soul. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: French G. on February 10, 2019, 05:52:49 AM
I remember reading an op-ed I think it was by and not about Obama and pretty sure it was before he was elected senator or just after. My takeaway was crap, they're going to make him president. And they did.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 10, 2019, 05:58:35 AM
I'm not sure I'd call it "brilliant".  Her twitter following is an echo chamber.  She is surrounded by people who prop her stupidity up.
But it's not to be underestimated. 
She truly believes the communist idiocy she spouts.  I believe that in my soul. 

Yep


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 10, 2019, 06:11:13 AM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 10, 2019, 06:37:51 AM
I'm not sure I'd call it "brilliant".  Her twitter following is an echo chamber.  She is surrounded by people who prop her stupidity up.
But it's not to be underestimated. 
She truly believes the communist idiocy she spouts.  I believe that in my soul. 

Indeed. Trump is Trump and will change when circumstances dictate it is advantageous to do so. She really, truly believes her commie stuff. Though it has been interesting watching the backpedaling and blaming the conservatives on the green deal thing. As I read somewhere else, it sounded like something a bunch of high schoolers put together and somehow thought the adults would take seriously. That seems to be true of most everything I have seen from her as of yet.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 10, 2019, 07:40:40 AM
She's also the champion of a willfully ignorant generation. 

FTFY


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 10, 2019, 08:35:24 AM
So has anyone heard what their "Final Solution" for farting cows is suppose to be?

Only things I can come up with are

A: Install cow fart filters on every cow
B: Pass a law making cows farts illegal
C: Employ the Nazi "Final Solution" model


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: HankB on February 10, 2019, 09:27:57 AM
She should be taxed at at least 70%.
PLUS New York State income tax PLUS Bronx income tax


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 10, 2019, 09:29:23 AM
So has anyone heard what their "Final Solution" for farting cows is suppose to be?

Only things I can come up with are

A: Install cow fart filters on every cow
B: Pass a law making cows farts illegal
C: Employ the Nazi "Final Solution" model

Stop cow farming and replace the protein source with Soylent products.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 10, 2019, 09:30:04 AM
Just thought of another

D: Educate the cows on why farting is bad.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 10, 2019, 09:30:48 AM
Stop cow farming and replace the protein source with Soylent products.

Yeah, but what to do with the cows? They're still farting.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 10, 2019, 10:01:43 AM
Yeah, but what to do with the cows? They're still farting.

Clearly you need to go back to the reeducation camps.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Boomhauer on February 10, 2019, 10:38:32 AM
Stop cow farming and replace the protein source with Soylent products.

I don’t know if you’ve seen some of the other articles concerning this but essentially they want to run ranchers out of business by taxing meat at a prohibitively high rate to reduce consumption in the name of “climate change” and “public health”

Side effects of malnutrition and starvation because of removing affordable sources of protein is of course just a bonus for the *expletive deleted*ing whack jobs of course. Just breaking eggs to make the omelette so to speak


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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: French G. on February 10, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
The hilarious part is all of those ideas to end meat treat "farmland" as an interchangeable square in a sim game. Just grow vegetables! Well, good luck. My area is not stable for row crop. At all. Makes lots of sheep and cow though. Same with much of the west. Might take 40 acres of range to support one beef, but what else is the land gonna do? On the hippie flip side, I am totally okay with exploring alternative protein source. A cricket based hot dog is going to be way cleaner than a chicken one.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 10, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
Clearly you need to go back to the reeducation camps.

Do I get to choose which college?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: French G. on February 13, 2019, 03:30:39 AM
Cocaine Mitch strikes again! Time to vote on the green new deal.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2019, 06:14:19 AM
Cocaine Mitch strikes again! Time to vote on the green new deal.

That was classic, especially given Markey's freak-out.  :laugh:

They introduce this thing and tell us we only have 12 years to live and have to do what they say NOW, and Mitch calls for an immediate votes so we can get started NOW, and suddenly we're moving too fast.  :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 13, 2019, 08:46:55 AM
New backtracking:

Now they prematurely released their "health care for everyone" manifesto where they basically said "screw old people - can't they just die already?"

So a 100% mandated government health care where you deny hip replacements past a certain age. You have eliminated evil private insurance, so there is no other way for someone who is not very wealthy to get a hip (or knee or whatever) replacement. Nice.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/13/holy-sit-aocs-policy-guy-deletes-tweets-saying-public-option-wont-pay-for-hip-replacements-for-octogenarians-screenshot/



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: adively on February 13, 2019, 09:21:14 AM
That was classic, especially given Markey's freak-out.  :laugh:

They introduce this thing and tell us we only have 12 years to live and have to do what they say NOW, and Mitch calls for an immediate votes so we can get started NOW, and suddenly we're moving too fast.  :rofl:

You have to love Cocaine Mitch!  Nothing like putting the squeeze to idiots.  :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on February 13, 2019, 01:35:38 PM
New backtracking:

Now they prematurely released their "health care for everyone" manifesto where they basically said "screw old people - can't they just die already?"

So a 100% mandated government health care where you deny hip replacements past a certain age. You have eliminated evil private insurance, so there is no other way for someone who is not very wealthy to get a hip (or knee or whatever) replacement. Nice.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/13/holy-sit-aocs-policy-guy-deletes-tweets-saying-public-option-wont-pay-for-hip-replacements-for-octogenarians-screenshot/



Since this bozo says he "does policy and not orthopaedics", perhaps he should shut up about policies involving orthopaedics and other medical procedures.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on February 13, 2019, 01:48:10 PM
New backtracking:

Now they prematurely released their "health care for everyone" manifesto where they basically said "screw old people - can't they just die already?"

So a 100% mandated government health care where you deny hip replacements past a certain age. You have eliminated evil private insurance, so there is no other way for someone who is not very wealthy to get a hip (or knee or whatever) replacement. Nice.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/13/holy-sit-aocs-policy-guy-deletes-tweets-saying-public-option-wont-pay-for-hip-replacements-for-octogenarians-screenshot/



They will probably cover gender re-assignment surgery at any age, maybe they could get one of those instead.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 18, 2019, 07:02:13 AM
She's now comparing the border wall with the Berlin wall.
I wonder if she could even find Berlin on a map given a week and with hints that it is in Germany? (That's a rhetorical question!)

Oh, and everyone is spying on her.
"It's like, super weird"

Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) appears to think that everyone in Washington, D.C., is spying on her and texting about her
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1097393582502113280/video/1

Every time I hear her voice I can feel a few brain cells die.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 18, 2019, 07:50:51 AM
Do I get to choose which college?
I thought he meant for the cows.   =)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 18, 2019, 07:52:26 AM
New backtracking:

Now they prematurely released their "health care for everyone" manifesto where they basically said "screw old people - can't they just die already?"

So a 100% mandated government health care where you deny hip replacements past a certain age. You have eliminated evil private insurance, so there is no other way for someone who is not very wealthy to get a hip (or knee or whatever) replacement. Nice.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/13/holy-sit-aocs-policy-guy-deletes-tweets-saying-public-option-wont-pay-for-hip-replacements-for-octogenarians-screenshot/


But the main thing to remember is that there are NO DEATH PANELS!  None whatsoever.  We will just have committees that decide if doctors will let you die, but certainly not death panels.  Abortions up to 900 months are under review.

   =D


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MillCreek on February 18, 2019, 09:33:00 AM
But the main thing to remember is that there are NO DEATH PANELS!  None whatsoever.  We will just have committees that decide if doctors insurance administrators will let you die, but certainly not death panels.

Speaking as someone who works in healthcare, I fixed that for you.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Boomhauer on February 18, 2019, 03:55:24 PM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 18, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
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The sad thing is, you could make a small fortune selling those shirts to her supporters.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 18, 2019, 04:40:59 PM
The sad thing is, you could make a small fortune selling those shirts to her supporters.

Tempting
Make lots of money and make her supporters easier to spot at the same time.
It's a win win


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 18, 2019, 04:47:21 PM
She needs to be more crazy bug eyed in that though


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 18, 2019, 04:47:54 PM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 20, 2019, 03:17:33 PM
My head hurts

Quote

    Not sure how many pundits talking about Amazon even read the deal or where it was going.

    $500+ million of the deal was *capital grants.*

    $2.5 billion in tax breaks.

    It’s fair to ask why we don’t invest the capital for public use, + why we don’t give working people a tax break. https://t.co/jUqaugUHYP

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 19, 2019
Quote

    Frankly, the knee-jerk reaction assuming that I “don’t understand” how tax giveaways to corps work is disappointing.

    No, it’s not possible that I could come to a different conclusion. The debate *must* be over my intelligence & understanding, instead of the merits of the deal.

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 19, 2019
Quote

    There’s NO WAY that this deal – one of the biggest giveaways in state history – could possibly have been bad, right?

    Surely there can’t be anything wrong with suddenly announcing a massive restructuring & pricing out of a community without any advance notice or input from them.

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 19, 2019


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 20, 2019, 03:32:17 PM
The sad thing is, you could make a small fortune selling those shirts to her supporters.

... except for that pesky copyright.


Copyrights are oppression.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 20, 2019, 04:18:26 PM
Meanwhile in New York

Times Square Billboard: ‘Amazon Pullout...Thanks For Nothing, AOC!’
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/times-square-billboard-amazon-pullout-thanks-nothing-aoc

(https://cdn.cnsnews.com/timessquarebillboard.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 20, 2019, 04:22:44 PM
The sad thing is, you could make a small fortune selling those shirts to her supporters.

We should do it -- and donate the money to whoever challenges her in two years.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 20, 2019, 04:32:04 PM
Uh oh
More on her "boy"friend

The guy Twitter punished last week for asking about @AOC’s boyfriend’s House email address just discovered a Super PAC paid the boyfriend $6000
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/20/the-guy-twitter-punished-last-week-for-asking-about-aocs-boyfriends-house-email-address-just-discovered-a-super-pac-paid-the-boyfriend-6000/

The Congresswoman Loves the Swamp
Her Wealthy Chief of Staff used a PAC to Pay Her Boyfriend
https://medium.com/@ltthompso/the-congresswoman-loves-the-swamp-d33296ec251e


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 20, 2019, 07:58:58 PM
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Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 23, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
A great point by Dan Bongino:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/02/23/bingo-dan-bongino-adds-not-so-minor-detail-to-rep-ocasio-cortezs-brag-about-her-living-wage-generosity-to-staffers/

She says she's "walking the walk" by making $52K/yr the minimum wage for her staff. Bongino mentions that it's easy to do when it's taxpayer money. When she distributes her own salary, then she's doing something.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 23, 2019, 09:22:36 AM
A great point by Dan Bongino:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/02/23/bingo-dan-bongino-adds-not-so-minor-detail-to-rep-ocasio-cortezs-brag-about-her-living-wage-generosity-to-staffers/

She says she's "walking the walk" by making $52K/yr the minimum wage for her staff. Bongino mentions that it's easy to do when it's taxpayer money. When she distributes her own salary, then she's doing something.

Too true. It's not as if she had to look at company income vs. expenses to figure out how to pay those salaries and still pay the rent and the electric company. I don't know how congressional offices work, but I assume each representative gets 'X' dollars per year for staffing, so raising the salaries probably amounts to hiring a couple fewer staffers and spreading the unused money from those slots among the others.

I wonder if her boyfriend (excuse me, "partner") is listed as a staff member. Apparently she gave him a .gov e-mail address.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 24, 2019, 07:07:52 AM
She's the boss

Quote
    Talking about how she tried to overcome her insecurities, she said, “I’m at least trying, and they’re not. And so the power is in the person who’s trying, regardless of the success.

    “If you’re trying, you’ve got all the power, you’re driving the agenda, you’re doing all this stuff,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

    “Like, I just introduced the Green New Deal two weeks ago, and it’s creating all of this conversation. Why? Because no one else has even tried,” she declared, in an apparent snub to Barack Obama’s Paris accord.

    […]

    “Some people are like, ‘Oh, it’s unrealistic, oh, it’s vague, oh, it doesn’t address this minute little thing, and I’m like, you try! You do it! ‘Cause you’re not! ‘Cause you’re not! So, until you do it, I’m the boss!

    “How about that?” she declared
Ocasio-Cortez Tried To Hit Back At Her Critics With This 'I Am The Boss' Moment Over Green New Deal
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/02/24/ocasio-cortez-tried-to-hit-back-at-her-critics-with-this-i-am-the-boss-moment-n2542116


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 24, 2019, 07:16:36 AM
Bless her heart.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 24, 2019, 07:33:45 AM
Every time she tries to talk tough, between that squeaky voice, like, using like, like, you know, like 50 times per, like, minute, and her absolute lack of knowledge, she like, reminds me of the like, cheerleader who like, just got nominated to like, Junior High student body president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiAgMMFzoXE


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 24, 2019, 08:15:25 AM
Far too many brain cells jumped ship last time I heard her voice and I can't spare any more


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: lee n. field on February 24, 2019, 03:21:36 PM
She needs to be more crazy bug eyed in that though

and a hint of fangs

wonderful what you can do with photochop.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 24, 2019, 03:52:52 PM
Apparently Miss "save the planet" evades reporters in an SUV. I wonder if she knows GSA will provide her with a mini van (because the SUV is apparently for room for staff), or even a hybrid?

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/24/does-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-live-in-her-district-she-wont-answer-the-question-from-the-ny-post/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 24, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
She's the boss
Ocasio-Cortez Tried To Hit Back At Her Critics With This 'I Am The Boss' Moment Over Green New Deal
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/02/24/ocasio-cortez-tried-to-hit-back-at-her-critics-with-this-i-am-the-boss-moment-n2542116


Cash me outside - how-bow-dat?

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/02/24/omg-lol-comedian-tim-young-captured-aocs-im-the-boss-rant-hilariously-in-this-side-by-side-watch/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 25, 2019, 06:03:00 AM

Cash me outside - how-bow-dat?

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/02/24/omg-lol-comedian-tim-young-captured-aocs-im-the-boss-rant-hilariously-in-this-side-by-side-watch/

Just think, there are actually enough people who think she is smart to put her into office. Let that sink in for a moment.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: adively on February 25, 2019, 09:35:30 AM
Just think, there are actually enough people who think she is smart to put her into office. Let that sink in for a moment.

Makes me weep for our once great nation.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: griz on February 25, 2019, 09:37:21 AM
An actual comic book, albeit satirical:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fab8e8e1c18b94434368a4d013adcd96a92f8962/0_216_963_790/master/963.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=fd8f40efa2d8f5c00c497050f31fdcaa)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 25, 2019, 07:22:09 PM
Man, she's dumb:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/02/25/now-theres-trouble-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-just-noticed-john-cornyns-mussolini-quote/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 25, 2019, 07:27:36 PM
 :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2019, 07:13:22 AM
Don't walk the "ban hamburgers" walk if you can't talk the "ban hamburgers" talk.  :laugh:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/02/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-furious-at-these-photos-of-her-and-a-staffer-eating-a-hamburger-and-killing-the-planet/

Also I noticed that the same SJWs who are fine running republicans out of restaurants are now quite upset that someone would "harass" her at a restaurant.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 02, 2019, 03:06:46 PM
As per the comments, "Chance of ever getting laid again: zero."

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/02/just-ice-are-your-eyes-ready-to-unsee-this-tattoo-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 03, 2019, 05:54:56 AM
Some AOC children's book titles.  :laugh:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/03/where-the-breadline-ends-aoc-inspired-childrens-books-titles-go-viral-with-hilarious-tag-ocasiocortezchildrensbooks/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 03, 2019, 06:07:09 AM
She is the best meme material since Al Gore invented memes


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 03, 2019, 08:19:27 AM
From AOC's FAQ:

Quote
We set a goal to get to net-zero rather than zero emissions, in ten years because we aren't sure that we'll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast, but we think we can ramp up renewable manufacturing and power production, retrofit every building in America, build the smart grid, overhaul transportation and agriculture, plant lots of trees and restore our ecosystem to get to net-zero.

What the heck does "net-zero" mean? Is she latching onto Al Gore's "carbon credits" idiocy? The concept of "net-zero" as opposed to zero obviously suggests some sort of tradeoff for some aspects that aren't capable of achieving true zero. But does that mean that some things need to achieve negative emissions? Is she contemplating machines or equipment that will suck greenhouse gasses out of the "ecosystem" and convert them into something unbad?

She claims to have a plan. I haven't seen any hint of a plan -- just a bunch of pie-in-the-sky ranting about accomplishing in ten years something that can't realistically be done in a hundred years. Case in point: I live in a 69-year old house that uses oil for heat and costs about $500 a month during the heating season. I would have to look up how many gallons of heating oil that translates to, but as an order of magnitude I'd guess between 1,500 and 2,000 gallons per year. I want to know what her plan is to retrofit my house to achieve zero use of fossil fuel. And who is going to pay for it, since I can't.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 03, 2019, 08:36:02 AM
From AOC's FAQ:

What the heck does "net-zero" mean? Is she latching onto Al Gore's "carbon credits" idiocy? The concept of "net-zero" as opposed to zero obviously suggests some sort of tradeoff for some aspects that aren't capable of achieving true zero.

Net zero:

https://www.worldgbc.org/advancing-net-zero/what-net-zero

Note:

Quote
WorldGBC recognises that in most situations, net zero energy buildings, i.e. buildings that generate 100% of their energy needs on-site, are not feasible. Therefore, buildings that are energy efficient, and supply energy needs from renewable sources (on-site and/or off-site) is a more appropriate target for the mass scale required to achieve Paris Agreement levels of global emission reductions.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 03, 2019, 08:38:36 AM
Wasn't Net-Zero a FREE internet company?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Triphammer on March 03, 2019, 08:50:56 AM
Hawk,
 That's easy. Your 70 YO house along with a few more  around yours the same age, or not, get bulldozed & they put up passive solar , 5 story "project" that won't work. Oh & you get one of the 600 square foot apartments, cause that's all you need.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 03, 2019, 09:19:41 AM
Also, for residential building, many are using "goal zero" instead of "net zero", I assume because of the caveat in my link above. An example:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/89244774_zpid/43.5761,-116.423579,43.496705,-116.571208_rect/12_zm/

The above home is goal zero (according to the builder, though the realtor ad says "net") plus is one of the "sealed designs" so you always have an air circulator/filter running vs ever opening windows (the windows are like 5" thick).

I'm actually not at all opposed to goal zero as long as it's not by force of government. My major opposition to the technology is that it's still over priced, IMO. If you go to the history on that house, you can see that it started out at $1million. Though its current selling price is now in line with standard homes in that area.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 03, 2019, 09:35:42 AM
Net zero:

https://www.worldgbc.org/advancing-net-zero/what-net-zero

Note:


According to the WGBC timeline, 2050 is the goal for all buildings to be "net-zero." That's thirty years out, not the ten years AOC is calling for. As an architect and licensed building inspector, I'm pretty certain that it can't happen even by 2050.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Fly320s on March 03, 2019, 09:52:01 AM
Also, for residential building, many are using "goal zero" instead of "net zero", I assume because of the caveat in my link above. An example:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/89244774_zpid/43.5761,-116.423579,43.496705,-116.571208_rect/12_zm/


That is a nice house and garage.  I'd live in it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 03, 2019, 10:04:16 AM
That is a nice house and garage.  I'd live in it.

It's very nice, top notch construction, and in a nice area as well. I looked at it last year when it was still overpriced.  :laugh:

Which is also kind of a point for me posting the link. It's a great example of "supply and demand" in the alternative energy market. It's currently around 10-15% higher than comparable places in the area. That's acceptable to me for $100 per YEAR utility bills, or maybe even getting paid for the excess electricity produced.

The original $1million asking price though, is analogous to what AOC and the greenies want. They want to force us into that tech for the $1million price tag, when it's only worth half that. Another reason that the green deal would absolutely bankrupt the US.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 03, 2019, 10:08:22 AM
And the co-founder of Greenpeace weighs in...  =D

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/03/pompous-little-twit-greenpeace-co-founder-rips-aoc-a-new-one-for-being-a-garden-variety-hypocrite-and-ho-lee-chit/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 03, 2019, 10:32:09 AM
More on AOC and hypocrisy: https://nypost.com/2019/03/02/gas-guzzling-car-rides-expose-aocs-hypocrisy-amid-green-new-deal-pledge/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on March 03, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
And the co-founder of Greenpeace weighs in...  =D

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/03/pompous-little-twit-greenpeace-co-founder-rips-aoc-a-new-one-for-being-a-garden-variety-hypocrite-and-ho-lee-chit/
He didn't leave any guessing about what he really thinks.  


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on March 03, 2019, 08:01:14 PM
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/574/77/9077574.jpeg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: charby on March 04, 2019, 04:49:44 AM
And the co-founder of Greenpeace weighs in...  =D

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/03/pompous-little-twit-greenpeace-co-founder-rips-aoc-a-new-one-for-being-a-garden-variety-hypocrite-and-ho-lee-chit/

I hate twitchy format (and the added opinions) so here is an article about it

http://dlvr.it/R07J4Y


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 04, 2019, 04:11:14 PM
Ha ha - She might let Amazon come back to NYC if they meet her demands. Because, you know, she's in charge of everything now.

In some ways I will miss the entertainment when her remaining 13 minutes are up.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/03/04/lmao-too-late-aoc-is-suffering-from-some-next-level-delusion-if-she-believes-this-about-the-amazon-deal/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 04, 2019, 04:16:02 PM
She's the boss


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 04, 2019, 05:05:00 PM
Quote
Two political action committees founded by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s top aide funneled over $1 million in political donations into two of his own private companies, according to a complaint filed with the Federal Election Commission on Monday.
Quote
Campaign finance attorneys described the arrangement as “really weird” and an indication "there’s something amiss." They said there was no way of telling where the political donations went — meaning they could have been pocketed or used by the company to pay for off-the-books campaign operations.

AOC’s chief of staff ran $1M slush fund by diverting campaign cash to his own companies
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-chief-of-staff-ran-1m-slush-fund-by-diverting-campaign-cash-to-his-own-companies


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on March 04, 2019, 05:05:12 PM
She's the boss

I know a pajama boy who is enamored with her.

On the book of faces I encourage all my liberal friends by writing nice things about how formidable her and Bernie are going to be in 2020.

Of course I mock the two of them for their socialism also :) To them socialism is a feature not a bug though.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 04, 2019, 05:23:19 PM
AOC’s chief of staff ran $1M slush fund by diverting campaign cash to his own companies
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-chief-of-staff-ran-1m-slush-fund-by-diverting-campaign-cash-to-his-own-companies

Well, they're democrats so it's OK.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 04, 2019, 08:52:12 PM
Quote
Campaign finance attorneys described the arrangement as “really weird”...

A legal term, apparently.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 05, 2019, 05:28:58 AM
More from The Boss

Quote

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "I am as powerful as a man" and it drives people "crazy" https://t.co/lOkuesAKiU pic.twitter.com/e9PdMeBI39

    — The Hill (@thehill) March 4, 2019
Quote

    “I feel like I predicted it from day one. The idea that a woman can be as powerful as a man is something that our society can’t deal with. But I am as powerful as a man and it drives them crazy.” https://t.co/cqIRXdIHA4

    — Lainna Fader 🦋 (@lainnafader) March 4, 2019
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/03/04/really-heres-why-rep-ocasio-cortez-thinks-she-drives-people-crazy-who-wants-to-tell-her/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2019, 06:28:43 AM
Now she's mad because the grocery store "gives her 10 paper bags" when she checks out. I hate the nagging greenies, but even I usually take my own bag to the store. When I don't it's because I want the bags because I'll reuse them for other stuff. She, on the other hand, is upset because it's too hard to recycle them (vs reusing them).

Perfect example of the type of "environmentalist" who does it for the attention vs actually for the environment.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/05/omg-just-ask-for-paper-aocs-rage-at-grocery-stores-and-plastic-bags-is-why-she-fights-and-we-cant-stop-laughing-watch/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 05, 2019, 06:41:26 AM
Stupid is the new smart


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 05, 2019, 06:44:59 AM
I don't know if it's been discussed here before, but Internet says her birthdate is in October of '89, meaning she'll be eligible to run for president in 2024. Wonder if she'll have flamed out by then.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 05, 2019, 06:49:52 AM
I don't know if it's been discussed here before, but Internet says her birthdate is in October of '89, meaning she'll be eligible to run for president in 2024. Wonder if she'll have flamed out by then.

She flamed out two or three months ago, she's just too dumb to realize it. Meanwhile enjoy the show.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on March 05, 2019, 07:17:55 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-millionaire-chief-of-staff-violated-fec-rules-to-hide-885g-fec-complaint-alleges


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on March 05, 2019, 07:23:30 AM
She flamed out two or three months ago, she's just too dumb to realize it. Meanwhile enjoy the show.
At this point, I think she just makes a useful distraction.  Pelosi can use her to voice all the radical ideas and make her look reasonable. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on March 05, 2019, 07:26:06 AM
Don’t live in a right wing bubble.

She is very popular on the left/far left.

She may be bringing the same game that Trump used.

Trump was pretty far out there himself, he was the number one Obama birth certificate birther if you recall.

Trump tailors his message to the audience. When he was meeting with Putin I doubt he was ranting like he does at CPAC.

Comrade Sandy O is playing to a specific demographic.

She will smooth ruffled feathers once her base is secured.

Or she is on our side and was sent to destroy the Dems! :)



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on March 05, 2019, 07:31:52 AM
AOC may be popular on the far left,  but she is still an ignorant loud mouthed nut.  Even  some of her senior liberal travelers have chastised her.  A Greenpeace member recently condemned her environmental plan.

She's no Trump.  Trump has a real estate empire.  Cortez was a bartender.  Slight difference, there.  :angel:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 05, 2019, 07:37:05 AM
She's much smarter than Trump, she majored in economics   :facepalm:

Quote
She graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011, majoring in international relations and economics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on March 05, 2019, 07:38:13 AM
Honestly, I know folks on the left who are successful and reasonably smart who think she is great.

She is moving the Overton window not only for the Dems but within the country. She has much better optics than Bernie.

I agree with you for the most part TommyGunn, she’s a nutter and seems like a loose cannon.

Although I dont think it is wise to dismiss her quite yet.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 05, 2019, 07:41:04 AM
She may be bringing the same game that Trump used.

Trump was pretty far out there himself, he was the number one Obama birth certificate birther if you recall.

Trump tailors his message to the audience. When he was meeting with Putin I doubt he was ranting like he does at CPAC.



AOC and Trump may have some similarity in style, but Trump hasn't pushed the Republican Party to the right the way AOC pushes to the left. Of course, the popular mythology is that Trump is "far-right," but that's just the same alarmism they push about Romney, and Bush, and every other Republican.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 05, 2019, 07:49:11 AM
The squeaky wheel gets the media spotlight


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on March 05, 2019, 08:15:30 AM

AOC and Trump may have some similarity in style, but Trump hasn't pushed the Republican Party to the right the way AOC pushes to the left. Of course, the popular mythology is that Trump is "far-right," but that's just the same alarmism they push about Romney, and Bush, and every other Republican.

Trump is somewhat of a paleo-con lite. A more congenial Pat Buchanan who isn’t socially conservative.

In other words the left thinks he is Hitler


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 05, 2019, 09:41:53 AM
Trump is somewhat of a paleo-con lite. A more congenial Pat Buchanan who isn’t socially conservative.

Waddyamean he's not a social conservative? He hates the gaaaayz! He's so mean to gaaaayz!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 05, 2019, 09:52:39 AM
Trump is somewhat of a paleo-con lite. A more congenial Pat Buchanan who isn’t socially conservative.

In other words the left thinks he is Hitler

To today's left there is no difference in a person saying there are only two genders and a person gassing millions of people.
They're  *****ing Bat**** Crazy


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on March 05, 2019, 11:18:36 AM
Honestly, I know folks on the left who are successful and reasonably smart who think she is great.

She is moving the Overton window not only for the Dems but within the country. She has much better optics than Bernie.

I agree with you for the most part TommyGunn, she’s a nutter and seems like a loose cannon.

Although I dont think it is wise to dismiss her quite yet.

I'm not dismissing her.  I'm disdaining her.  >:D


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 05, 2019, 11:28:58 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-millionaire-chief-of-staff-violated-fec-rules-to-hide-885g-fec-complaint-alleges

Quote
New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Saikat Chakrabarti, the progressive firebrand's multimillionaire chief of staff, apparently violated campaign finance law by funneling nearly $1 million in contributions from political action committees Chakrabarti established to private companies that he also controlled, according to an explosive complaint filed Monday with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and obtained by Fox News.

Amid the allegations, a former FEC commissioner late Monday suggested in an interview with The Daily Caller News Foundation that Ocasio-Cortez and her team could separately be facing major fines and potentially even jail time if they were knowingly and willfully violating the law by hiding their control of the Justice Democrats political action committee (PAC). Such an arrangement could have allowed Ocasio-Cortez's campaign to receive donations in excess of the normal limit, by pooling contributions to both the PAC and the campaign itself.

Might be a big nothingburger.  Might be a bit more.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on March 05, 2019, 11:34:50 AM
I, for one, eagerly await the "standard" televised, pre-dawn SWAT raid on Mr. Chakrabarti's home.  Process criminals are the most dangerous kind.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on March 05, 2019, 02:11:48 PM
Honestly, I know folks on the left who are successful and reasonably smart who think she is great.

She is moving the Overton window not only for the Dems but within the country. She has much better optics than Bernie.

I agree with you for the most part TommyGunn, she’s a nutter and seems like a loose cannon.

Although I dont think it is wise to dismiss her quite yet.
I agree she is playing to the Democrat liberal base.  I have also heard it said that this far ahead of the Presidential election, playing to the base is how to stand out from the crowd and get early support.  We will see if she can maintain that into next year.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 10, 2019, 07:05:07 AM
I'm starting to think AOC and Omar are playing headline tag.
Not only is she playing the race card, she's playing it retroactively 

Ocasio-Cortez, at SXSW, blasts FDR, Reagan and capitalism, says political moderates are 'meh'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-slams-moderates-as-meh-at-sxsw-criticizes-americas-treatment-of-minorities


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 10, 2019, 02:23:08 PM
(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_4024.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 11, 2019, 05:50:04 AM
Now we need to tax corporations at 90% because "infinite resources" are right around the corner.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/03/11/aoc-misquotes-bill-gates-during-sxsw-speech-on-workplace-automation-says-capitalism-is-irredeemable/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 11, 2019, 05:55:11 AM
Now we need to tax corporations at 90% because "infinite resources" are right around the corner.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/03/11/aoc-misquotes-bill-gates-during-sxsw-speech-on-workplace-automation-says-capitalism-is-irredeemable/

And you got to remember this is coming from someone who majored in economics  :facepalm:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 11, 2019, 06:00:11 AM
And you got to remember this is coming from someone who majored in economics  :facepalm:

Well, I for one can't wait for her, "A Star Trek Replicator for every home" legislation. I'll be replicating 1911s and 16 year old Lagavulin like nobody's business.  =D


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 11, 2019, 06:03:06 AM
Well, I for one can't wait for her, "A Star Trek Replicator for every home" legislation. I'll be replicating 1911s and 16 year old Lagavulin like nobody's business.  =D

Yeah, but after the Green Deal is completed how will you power the darn things? I don't think a Gilligan Island petal bike is going to cut it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 11, 2019, 08:20:29 AM
Yes Virginia, she is this stupid

Oh honey, NO! AOC claims Fox News is propaganda by mocking a LAW she clearly doesn’t know actually exists
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/11/oh-honey-no-aoc-claims-fox-news-is-propaganda-by-mocking-a-law-she-clearly-doesnt-know-actually-exists/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dm1333 on March 11, 2019, 02:20:23 PM
Yes Virginia, she is this stupid

Oh honey, NO! AOC claims Fox News is propaganda by mocking a LAW she clearly doesn’t know actually exists
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/11/oh-honey-no-aoc-claims-fox-news-is-propaganda-by-mocking-a-law-she-clearly-doesnt-know-actually-exists/

Kind of like the irony behind Rashida Tlaib, at a MoveOn.org rally, saying "we're going to impeach the mother f'er!"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 11, 2019, 06:11:04 PM
More AOC hypocrisy: http://www.theamericanmirror.com/ocasio-cortez-takes-gas-guzzling-suv-to-lecture-americans-about-climate-change-at-sxsw/

Attends conference on Climate Change -- arrives in large SUV. With plastic water bottle in the door. So much for urgently needing to take drastic measures.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 11, 2019, 06:13:35 PM
There's rules for you and there's rules for the elites


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 11, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
More AOC hypocrisy: http://www.theamericanmirror.com/ocasio-cortez-takes-gas-guzzling-suv-to-lecture-americans-about-climate-change-at-sxsw/

Attends conference on Climate Change -- arrives in large SUV. With plastic water bottle in the door. So much for urgently needing to take drastic measures.


Didn't the auto execs get a lot of flack for taking private jets to go ask for a bail-out?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 11, 2019, 09:43:07 PM

Didn't the auto execs get a lot of flack for taking private jets to go ask for a bail-out?

:cough: :cough: Leonardo DiCaprio  :cough:  :cough:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: 230RN on March 11, 2019, 10:23:18 PM
I'm suspecting the DNC is letting their whackos run loose until an approriate time before the election so their "normally" impractical candidates and programs look rational and middle of the road and feasible as all get-out.

Hey, if I can think of it, they can, too.  It's all PR and propaganda.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 12, 2019, 04:19:32 AM
I'm suspecting the DNC is letting their whackos run loose until an approriate time before the election so their "normally" impractical candidates and programs look rational and middle of the road and feasible as all get-out.

Hey, if I can think of it, they can, too.  It's all PR and propaganda.

Sometimes I think like that but then sometimes I think the whackos are now the ones in charge.
The latter's sometimes is running at about 90% of the time right now.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on March 12, 2019, 01:00:36 PM
Yeah, but after the Green Deal is completed how will you power the darn things? I don't think a Gilligan Island petal bike is going to cut it.

You just need to lay in a supply of dilithium crystals.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on March 12, 2019, 07:28:44 PM
Sometimes I think like that but then sometimes I think the whackos are now the ones in charge.
The latter's sometimes is running at about 90% of the time right now.
You are assuming that some of them are NOT whackos.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 14, 2019, 02:12:42 PM
Jiminy H Christmas. Do what the one commenter said and hop on Amazon for five minutes and buy one! Moron.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/03/14/rep-ocasio-cortez-says-shes-working-all-the-time-hasnt-been-able-to-get-a-chair-but-gets-great-tips-on-where-to-buy-one/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 15, 2019, 11:09:53 AM
Quote
    .@AOC's former senior aide, @_waleedshahid: "Democracy should mean taking power and wealth and making sure it belongs to everyone." pic.twitter.com/TwkDNEtVl9
    — Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 14, 2019

AOC’s Senior Advisor: Democracy Should Mean Taking People’s Money and Power Away
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/03/15/watch-aocs-advisor-talk-about-destroying-capitalism-n2543175


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 15, 2019, 11:14:44 AM
AOC’s Senior Advisor: Democracy Should Mean Taking People’s Money and Power Away
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/03/15/watch-aocs-advisor-talk-about-destroying-capitalism-n2543175

So, in other words -- theft under color of law.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 15, 2019, 11:22:01 AM
So, in other words -- theft under color of law.

It's not theft if it was theirs to begin with. That's how it works with them.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on March 15, 2019, 11:39:02 AM
Because that has worked sooooooooo well in Venezuela.....


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 15, 2019, 11:43:19 AM
AOC’s Senior Advisor: Democracy Should Mean Taking People’s Money and Power Away
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/03/15/watch-aocs-advisor-talk-about-destroying-capitalism-n2543175


Please tell me he's explaining that the U.S. is a republic; not a democracy. :facepalm:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 15, 2019, 11:44:08 AM
AOC’s Senior Advisor: Democracy Should Mean Taking People’s Money and Power Away

Technically, he's not wrong.  If the majority want a democratic government to rob from some and give to others, that's what the government will do.

Three wolves and one lamb voting on what to have for dinner, and all that.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 15, 2019, 12:30:32 PM
Apparently we have a Muslim ban in this country   :facepalm:

Quote

    Daily reminder that we have a **Muslim Ban** in this country made out of the President’s hostility to Muslim people w/ little-to-no supporting evidence, and a Republican Party that tolerates it.

    There is so much work to do. Repealing the Ban is square 1.https://t.co/dqrCsedMrt

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 15, 2019


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 15, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
Apparently we have a Muslim ban in this country   :facepalm:


And a lot of people will just nod in agreement. It's as if she's doing fan service to keep lefties and low-information voters pumped, while performing a comedy routine for the rest of us.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 17, 2019, 07:47:31 AM
So regarding one of the founders of Greenpeace weighing in (negatively) on AOC, Google has removed him from search results related to Greenpeace founders. One might argue that it happened because Greenpeace removed him from it's co-founder list, but that should take weeks if not years to make him not show up on search results. Sure seems like Google had a helping hand in his quick disappearance.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/17/tech-tyranny-google-strikes-again-to-protect-aoc-and-her-ridiculous-green-new-deal-and-its-kinda-sorta-terrifying/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 17, 2019, 07:48:59 AM
(https://cdn8.openculture.com/2017/08/20195102/soviet-censorship-naval-commissar-vanishes.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on March 17, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20070203080000/http://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/history/founders

He was listed as a founder on the Greenpeace website in 2007 according to this archived page.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 17, 2019, 11:10:51 AM
About those poll numbers

Quote

    If you want to know what subconscious bias looks like, it’s a headline saying “AOC is underwater with every group EXCEPT women, nonwhites, and 18-34 year olds.”

    So older, conservative white men are considered “everyone” and everyone else is discounted as an exception.

    Cool 👍🏽 https://t.co/qkwTknMYhC

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 16, 2019
Quote

    The reason people know more is bc Fox News has turned into “AOC TMZ” (no offense to TMZ), so awareness is growing w/ GOPers.@JaneMayerNYer has reported deeply on this propaganda machine + it will be aimed at any Dem they want. Nothing changes that.

    We can’t be scared by that.

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 16, 2019


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 17, 2019, 03:28:54 PM
So regarding one of the founders of Greenpeace weighing in (negatively) on AOC, Google has removed him from search results related to Greenpeace founders. One might argue that it happened because Greenpeace removed him from it's co-founder list, but that should take weeks if not years to make him not show up on search results. Sure seems like Google had a helping hand in his quick disappearance.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/17/tech-tyranny-google-strikes-again-to-protect-aoc-and-her-ridiculous-green-new-deal-and-its-kinda-sorta-terrifying/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmY_bniRT2U


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 23, 2019, 02:45:48 PM
Evil corporations need to pay their fair share and stop evading taxes!!!

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/03/23/new-york-post-rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-still-hasnt-paid-a-six-year-old-tax-bill/

 :laugh:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 27, 2019, 07:33:28 AM
Oh joy
AOC coming to Kentucky to meet coal miners. And of course the C&J is having an orgasm 

Quote
A rising Democratic star in Congress who has been called the "Wonder Woman of the left, Wicked Witch of the right"could be coming to a Kentucky coal mine near you.
U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of New York, has been spearheading a grand environmental legislative package dubbed the Green New Deal to tackle climate change.
The progressive plan looks to combine using renewable energy resources and economic stimulus measures. But it is being branded by conservative leaders — namely Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. — as a socialist takeover of the American economy.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accepts Andy Barr's invite to 'go underground,' meet coal miners
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-may-come-meet-kentucky-coal-miners-green-new-deal/3286074002/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on March 27, 2019, 10:10:12 AM
Oh joy
AOC coming to Kentucky to meet coal miners. And of course the C&J is having an orgasm 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accepts Andy Barr's invite to 'go underground,' meet coal miners
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-may-come-meet-kentucky-coal-miners-green-new-deal/3286074002/

It's going to be a scene from Zoolander.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 28, 2019, 03:21:24 PM
She actually thinks that because of the news coverage she's getting that men are "obsessed" with her????  :facepalm:  [barf]

Ocasio-Cortez wonders why ‘so many grown men’ are ‘obsessed’ with her
https://nypost.com/2019/03/22/ocasio-cortez-wonders-why-so-many-grown-men-are-obsessed-with-her/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 28, 2019, 04:10:35 PM
She actually thinks that because of the news coverage she's getting that men are "obsessed" with her????  :facepalm:  [barf]

Ocasio-Cortez wonders why ‘so many grown men’ are ‘obsessed’ with her
https://nypost.com/2019/03/22/ocasio-cortez-wonders-why-so-many-grown-men-are-obsessed-with-her/

Quote
Meyers then asked her how Fox News’ coverage impacts her relationship with her Republican colleagues.

“It is funny because one of the side effects of this Fox News lunacy is that other actual members of Congress believe it and see it uncritically,” the Democratic darling said.

[Like] What other kind of members of Congress are there?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 28, 2019, 06:14:25 PM
She actually thinks that because of the news coverage she's getting that men are "obsessed" with her????  :facepalm:  [barf]

Ocasio-Cortez wonders why ‘so many grown men’ are ‘obsessed’ with her
https://nypost.com/2019/03/22/ocasio-cortez-wonders-why-so-many-grown-men-are-obsessed-with-her/

Not with a stolen crank.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Chester32141 on March 29, 2019, 03:25:06 PM
Not with a stolen crank.



Oh Hell … I'd take one for the team if it would shut her up …  :-*

 :old:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2019, 06:14:23 AM
We don't want no dead presidents getting re-elected!

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/03/31/omg-how-did-he-keep-a-straight-face-aocs-huge-snafu-about-fdr-and-the-22nd-amendment-is-the-stuff-of-legend-watch/

Admittedly, there's no way I would have remembered those dates from high school government class, but then I wouldn't have opened my big mouth either.  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 31, 2019, 06:30:14 AM
She's a brick in the knife drawer


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 31, 2019, 07:28:41 AM
Quote from: Twitchy
Wow.

AOC needs a history refresher … serio.

AOC needs a brain ...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on April 01, 2019, 10:54:51 AM
Yes Virginia, there is a disconnect

Quote

    Croissants at LaGuardia are going for SEVEN DOLLARS A PIECE 😱

    Yet some people think getting a whole hour of personal, dedicated human labor for $15 is too expensive??

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) April 1, 2019
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/04/01/the-gall-of-this-is-incredible-human-croissant-aoc-doubles-down-after-getting-called-out-for-her-economic-idiocy-and-gets-called-out-again/

Little Miss Economics Major apparently can't make the connection between higher wages and things costing more


And BTW:

Quote
   The minimum wage for LaGuardia workers will increase to $19/ hour within the next five years and they already make $15/hour https://t.co/SXTbFxnMTQ

    — Ben McDonald (@Bmac0507) April 1, 2019
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/04/01/good-lord-thats-ridiculous-turns-out-minimum-wage-expert-aoc-forgot-to-fact-check-herself-before-she-wrecked-herself/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on April 01, 2019, 12:39:39 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/45359/watch-ocasio-cortez-doubles-down-cow-farts-makes-ryan-saavedra

Quote
Ocasio-Cortez compared climate change to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which resulted in the deaths of 3,000 innocent Americans, and suggested that she did not agree with America's decision to use the military to respond to the terror attack.

“On the events on September 11, 2001, thousands of Americans died in the largest terror attack on US soil," Ocasio-Cortez said. "Our national response was war in one then eventually two countries: 3,000 Americans died in Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria. Where is our response?"

Demand miliary action against the racist country of Hurricania - we only have 12 years left!!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on April 01, 2019, 01:54:52 PM
(https://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/leave-AOC-alone_new.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on April 01, 2019, 01:55:51 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2xg9ke.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on April 02, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
Now we care about unsecured comms?

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/04/02/watch-rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-warns-of-white-house-staffers-putting-the-nuclear-codes-in-instagram-dms/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on April 11, 2019, 02:30:57 PM
Bartender asks Navy SEAL combat vet why he hasn't done as much about fighting terrorism as a Somalian congresswoman who hates the US:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/04/11/didnt-think-aocs-dishonest-hit-on-dan-crenshaw-could-look-worse-think-again/

I don't think Trump will need to spend any money to get reelected in 2020...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 11, 2019, 03:30:19 PM
Bartender asks Navy SEAL combat vet why he hasn't done as much about fighting terrorism as a Somalian congresswoman who hates the US:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/04/11/didnt-think-aocs-dishonest-hit-on-dan-crenshaw-could-look-worse-think-again/

I don't think Trump will need to spend any money to get reelected in 2020...

Wait -- What?

Quote
In 2018, right-wing extremists were behind almost ALL US domestic terrorist killings. Why don’t you go do something about that?

I've been trying to keep track of mass shootings and school shootings. My tabulation doesn't include one, single, solitary terrorist shooting in the United States for all of 2018. I want to know what, when and where "ALL" these alleged domestic terrorist killings were.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on April 11, 2019, 04:15:16 PM
Well, there were none, but those evil right-wingers were responsible for most of them.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on April 11, 2019, 04:36:32 PM
Think I've said this before but
She's the sharpest brick in the knife drawer.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on April 13, 2019, 05:34:56 AM
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/04/13/the-latest-from-the-babylon-bee-skewering-aoc-is-great-ted-cruzs-response-even-better/

 :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 13, 2019, 06:09:20 AM
Wait -- What?

I've been trying to keep track of mass shootings and school shootings. My tabulation doesn't include one, single, solitary terrorist shooting in the United States for all of 2018. I want to know what, when and where "ALL" these alleged domestic terrorist killings were.

She truly is dumb.  Military operations on domestic soil are like unicorns.
That's what the DHS, Feebs and local police departments are for.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on April 13, 2019, 06:29:42 AM
She truly is dumb. 

Ya know, whether you like, abide, or hate Trump, this woman and about three other new congresscritters are going to be the primary reason he gets reelected in 2020 if they continue as they are without being reined in by their party.

They truly think their Twitter fan club encompasses the majority of America. I don't think they realize how many Democrats they are turning off with their shenanigans, let alone the conservatives and libertarians they are riling up.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 13, 2019, 07:25:33 AM
Ya know, whether you like, abide, or hate Trump, this woman and about three other new congresscritters are going to be the primary reason he gets reelected in 2020 if they continue as they are without being reined in by their party.

They truly think their Twitter fan club encompasses the majority of America. I don't think they realize how many Democrats they are turning off with their shenanigans, let alone the conservatives and libertarians they are riling up.


Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a strategic error.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 02, 2019, 07:50:45 AM
Like Magic!

Quote
"I am SHOOK, like honestly, gardening, FOOD-- that comes out of dirt... it's Like magic " ~ @AOC
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/05/02/aoc-and-her-garden-n2545697


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on May 02, 2019, 07:52:04 AM
I thought that was going to be the AOC parody account.

But, nope, apparently not.

Didn't know I grew up in a family of wizards.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 02, 2019, 07:53:52 AM
Who needs SNL when we have AOC around?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 02, 2019, 07:54:40 AM
I thought that was going to be the AOC parody account.


AOC doesn't need a parody account. She does it all in-house.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 02, 2019, 08:02:47 AM
In the comments
Quote
Blondes are now telling AOC jokes......
:rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 02, 2019, 08:04:09 AM
I wonder if she's heard of beer gardens?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on May 02, 2019, 08:57:09 AM
Like Magic!
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/05/02/aoc-and-her-garden-n2545697

Please, Oh pretty pretty please, let someone on twitter convince her that her plant's need electrolytes, and that's why the tomato died.  She can water them with sports water or something.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MillCreek on May 02, 2019, 08:58:47 AM
^^^There is no substitute for Brawndo.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: griz on May 02, 2019, 10:33:46 AM
Quote
Blondes are now telling AOC jokes......

That kind of sums it up right there.

Did the people who voted for her listen to what she said?  Seems incomprehensible. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on May 02, 2019, 11:36:56 AM
That kind of sums it up right there.

Did the people who voted for her listen to what she said?  Seems incomprehensible. 

She had a (D) after her name. That's all they needed to know.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on May 02, 2019, 11:51:23 AM
Wait until she finds out where milk comes from....


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on May 02, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
Wait until she finds out where milk comes from....

wear do babby come frum


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 02, 2019, 02:37:33 PM
wear do babby come frum

From the cabbage patch in AOC's garden. It's magic, DUH!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on May 03, 2019, 08:40:51 PM
AOC learns about agriculture:

https://youtu.be/tVo_wkxH9dU


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 03, 2019, 08:52:20 PM
You owe me a new keyboard.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 08, 2019, 05:33:23 PM
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/05/08/this-will-come-as-a-huge-shock-but-aocs-take-on-the-georgia-heartbeat-bill-is-ignorant-on-several-levels/

Quote

    “6 weeks pregnant” = 2 weeks late on your period.

    Most of the men writing these bills don’t know the first thing about a woman’s body outside of the things they want from it. It’s relatively common for a woman to have a late period + not be pregnant.

    So this is a backdoor ban. https://t.co/xWd9GAj51b

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 8, 2019

About that

Quote

    This bill was co-authored by 3 women https://t.co/8VXWs56h7b

    — Ben McDonald (@Bmac0507) May 8, 2019

It's magic


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on May 08, 2019, 07:15:54 PM
Quote
So this is a backdoor ban.

If she's against it, why is she talking it up that way?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 09, 2019, 05:32:56 AM
She and Bernie are announcing "A radical new plan" to stick it to banks and credit card companies later today. It will, "keep more coin in our pockets!"

[Narrator: "It won't"]


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2019, 05:35:17 AM
She and Bernie are announcing "A radical new plan" to stick it to banks and credit card companies later today. It will, "keep more coin in our pockets!"

[Narrator: "It won't"]

"Our"

Need a Dr. Evil quote meme for that


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on May 09, 2019, 06:00:06 AM
Quote
    “6 weeks pregnant” = 2 weeks late on your period.

AFAIK, ovulation is on average about 2 weeks before a period, and the fertility widow is only a couple days. So 2 plus 2 is now 6. Math is hard.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Fly320s on May 09, 2019, 06:11:48 AM
Quote
So this is a backdoor ban.

Sodomy is legal in all states.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 09, 2019, 11:31:10 AM
And it's, "basic "non-profit" banking services via USPS".

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/05/09/please-run-on-this-aoc-was-confused-by-a-garbage-disposal-but-her-postalbanking-idea-is-totally-not-crazy-at-all-watch/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2019, 11:49:33 AM
Because the USPS is the very model of efficiency.

Well, Government efficiency.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 09, 2019, 12:04:34 PM
Quote
    She really doesn’t need a parody account.

    — johnny cy (@johnnycy89) May 9, 2019

I'm pretty certain I posted that here, a couple of weeks go.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 09, 2019, 12:11:13 PM
Things that AOC has never heard of:

     garbage disposals

     credit unions

     others?



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2019, 12:14:17 PM
Bernie's on board with the USPS idea
Because banks are racist

Quote

    Banks make record profits discriminating against people of color and denying basic banking services to 63 million adults who are unbanked or underbanked.

    We must allow every post office to offer basic, affordable banking services and end lending discrimination once and for all.

    — Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) May 9, 2019
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/05/09/bernie-sanders-also-worried-about-americas-unbanked-and-underbanked-especially-people-of-color/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fifth_column on May 09, 2019, 12:36:24 PM
end lending discrimination once and for all.

Right.  Because why should people that have no means to pay down the loan be denied a loan?  That's discrimination!!!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 09, 2019, 12:55:18 PM
Right.  Because why should people that have no means to pay down the loan be denied a loan?  That's discrimination!!!

De Ja vu all over again.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: griz on May 09, 2019, 01:34:21 PM
Things that AOC has never heard of:

     garbage disposals

     credit unions

     others?


Constitution?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2019, 01:37:39 PM
Brains


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: BobR on May 09, 2019, 01:39:36 PM


Food........from dirt...... but she has heard of magic!!!  ;)


bob


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 09, 2019, 02:58:46 PM
Quote

    First major legislative proposal from Rep. @AOC, calling for 15% cap on credit card interest rates, gets backing from 2020 presidential hopeful https://t.co/l7AcOYLEp0

    — Roll Call (@rollcall) May 9, 2019

On the surface and without knowing the details yet I really don't have an issue with this. But the devil is in the details.

Memory-holed: Oh, so now THIS is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ first major legislative proposal
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/05/09/memory-holed-oh-so-now-this-is-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-first-major-legislative-proposal/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on May 10, 2019, 04:46:09 AM
On the surface and without knowing the details yet I really don't have an issue with this. But the devil is in the details.

Memory-holed: Oh, so now THIS is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ first major legislative proposal
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/05/09/memory-holed-oh-so-now-this-is-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-first-major-legislative-proposal/


So you're okay with the government interfering in free market economics, financials, and liberty?



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 10, 2019, 05:04:47 AM
So you're okay with the government interfering in free market economics, financials, and liberty?



I should have explained more fully.
I mean I agree that some credit card companies charge ridiculously obscene high interest rates and it's those rates often make it hard for people to climb out of a debt hole.  That's the surface of the idea I somewhat agree with but at the same time I am leary of govt control of anything like this thus the devil in the details.
The heart of the problem is far that too many people spend way beyond their means and they've made it far too easy these people to walk away from their debt while the rest of us pick up the tab.

Surface: The idea that maybe some interest rates may be too high
The details: There's a very good reason why some of these rates are so high

I don't have enough coffee in me yet to be clear


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 10, 2019, 05:18:05 AM
The heart of the problem is far that too many people spend way beyond their means and they've made it far too easy these people to walk away from their debt while the rest of us pick up the tab.

Indeed, which is why I'd rather have a free market solution (that doesn't involve people walking away from self-incurred debt). Credit card interest is very much supply and demand. If less people carried ginormous balances on their cards, the CC companies would lower interest rates to get more people to carry some debt.

Much like how auto companies offer 0% financing to sell their cars. If people would be standing in line to buy cars, they'd also be paying 10% financing. CC companies seem to have no shortage of people willing to pay 20% interest so they can just pay $25/mo on $10000 debt, or at least people who don't read their contracts regarding interest charges.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on May 10, 2019, 06:22:51 AM
Check cashing places and pay loan people charge quite a bit also, but people still keep going back to those places.  No law will make up for people being foolish with their money.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on May 10, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
Check cashing places and pay loan people charge quite a bit also, but people still keep going back to those places.  No law will make up for people being foolish with their money.

A lot of people use those places because they don't trust banks, and/or banks don't offer short term (or long term) loans because of their lack of credit/ability to pay. The PayDay loan places fill then need of those people, and given their BK/default rates, is why they charge outrageous rates.


But when the car breaks and you need it to get to work to pay the rent/buy groceries, you need money to get it fixed.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 10, 2019, 09:46:03 AM
Add "market forces" to the list of things AOC has never heard of.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: lee n. field on May 10, 2019, 09:58:46 AM
Check cashing places and pay loan people charge quite a bit also, but people still keep going back to those places.  No law will make up for people being foolish with their money.

One of my employers, over the years, got into rent to own.  He loved it, even with the headaches.  If the renter/buyer ever managed to pay off the item, he'd have paid either 2 or 4 (I forget which) times what it was worth.

One of my current customers is a low end used car dealer.  If you're on my Book of Faces you'll have seen an occasional rant from my dealing with them.  They kind of place where if you don't make weekly payments they repo the vehicle.  In the main location there are more people in collections, than sales.

Yes, it sucks to be on the consumer side of this. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 10, 2019, 10:07:59 AM
Company I used to work for used to build and refurb PCs for a RTO chain. We were building the PCs for roughly $500. Once in while when one came in for refurb the RTO paperwork would be in the box. To actually own the $500 PC from the RTO chain the customer would wind up paying over $3,000 over 2 or maybe 3 years, fuzzy memory on the time.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MillCreek on May 10, 2019, 10:32:23 AM
I understand the hot new ticket these days in car repossession is a GPS remote disabling device such that if you miss a payment, the car shuts down and sends a signal of the location to make it easy for the dealer to come get it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on May 10, 2019, 11:42:21 AM
So you're okay with the government interfering in free market economics, financials, and liberty?

Yes

Only in the libertarian utopia that never existed and never will does government not interfere in those areas.

Libertarians and conservatives have been getting butt raped by the left due to the slavish devotion to unrealistic principles that only would work in a utopia with better humans.

I say this with all due respect guys, I was a long time libertarian. I voted for Ron Paul when he ran on the big L ticket against Bush.

Libertarianism is leftist and suicidal in a global economy.

Nationalism and federalism will make us stronger on the world stage.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on May 12, 2019, 04:12:45 AM
Yes

Only in the libertarian utopia that never existed and never will does government not interfere in those areas.

Libertarians and conservatives have been getting butt raped by the left due to the slavish devotion to unrealistic principles that only would work in a utopia with better humans.

I say this with all due respect guys, I was a long time libertarian. I voted for Ron Paul when he ran on the big L ticket against Bush.

Libertarianism is leftist and suicidal in a global economy.

Nationalism and federalism will make us stronger on the world stage.



Credit is a pretty basic thing.  People who are too stupid to participate correctly in the economy pay a higher price for credit. 
Excessive government interference in consumer credit rates will not produce the intended result.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on May 12, 2019, 06:42:32 AM
Agreed.  Excessive being the key word.  

But I think Ron is right in that some Govt is needed to set boundaries and enforce that.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 12, 2019, 07:57:48 AM


Ocasio-Cortez takes spin in Pelosi’s chair to preside over House
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/ocasio-cortez-takes-spin-in-pelosis-chair-to-preside-over-house/

(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/190510-aoc-presiding-officer.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 12, 2019, 08:58:39 AM

Ocasio-Cortez takes spin in Pelosi’s chair to preside over House
https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/ocasio-cortez-takes-spin-in-pelosis-chair-to-preside-over-house/

[img]https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/190510-aoc-presiding-officer.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

Something they all get to do, but of course she's the only one that I've ever seen get press about it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 12, 2019, 09:25:24 AM
I recall they made a big deal about Hillary presiding when she was Senator.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2019, 05:07:47 AM
She was now "only kidding" about the "end of times in 12 years" thing. How could stupid conservatives have taken her seriously? Like they say, the gift that keeps on giving...

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/05/13/sure-thats-the-takeaway-the-hill-spins-like-theyve-never-spun-before-covering-aocs-claim-she-was-joking-about-world-ending/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 13, 2019, 05:29:10 AM
Saw that.
Wish everyone who voted for her would come out and say "just kidding"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 13, 2019, 12:11:16 PM
Saw that.
Wish everyone who voted for her would come out and say "just kidding"

Yeah, but all the people who voted for her think it's an in joke, and that they're in on the joke.

The don't understand that they (along with her) ARE the joke. And that the joke isn't funny.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 15, 2019, 05:58:44 PM
Mini AOC strikes again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmHFUzvY9XE


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 16, 2019, 09:44:38 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/an-exclusive-look-at-the-new-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-comic-book


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 17, 2019, 12:32:48 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/kn051719dAPR20190515014546.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 18, 2019, 04:19:44 AM
About the cows
According to this AOC should be more concern about the other end of the cow

VERIFY: Cow farts are real, but it's their burps that release more Greenhouse Gas
https://www.whas11.com/article/news/verify-cow-farts-are-real-but-its-their-burps-that-release-more-greenhouse-gas/417-5f0b56ad-4b9e-4c1b-b3ad-f1b4b9ac57f8

(https://media.giphy.com/media/HUkOv6BNWc1HO/giphy.gif)



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 20, 2019, 07:56:04 AM
Ocasio-Cortez’s superhero alter ego shut down by DC Comics
https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/ocasio-cortezs-superhero-alter-ego-shut-down-by-dc-comics/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

Quote
But the Wonder Woman theme can still be found online. A copy was selling for about $25 on eBay on Saturday night.
Capitalism


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 20, 2019, 08:02:45 AM
Ocasio-Cortez’s superhero alter ego shut down by DC Comics
https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/ocasio-cortezs-superhero-alter-ego-shut-down-by-dc-comics/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
Capitalism

I like the part where a commenter wondered what the outcry would be if it were Obama being punched instead of Trump.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 20, 2019, 08:40:25 AM
I like the part where a commenter wondered what the outcry would be if it were Obama being punched instead of Trump.

Mass hysteria


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 20, 2019, 09:28:43 AM
Mass hysteria

... and proof that the U.S. is a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynist white supremacist patriarchy.  Or something.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 21, 2019, 10:02:03 AM
... and now cauliflower is racist:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-growing-cauliflower-colonial

https://youtu.be/PUJ6o4tqwyM?t=84

Also: community gardens aren't popular with people of color because of colonialism.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 21, 2019, 10:12:55 AM
... and now cauliflower is racist:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-growing-cauliflower-colonial

https://youtu.be/PUJ6o4tqwyM?t=84

Also: community gardens aren't popular with people of color because of colonialism.


Cauliflower farts


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 21, 2019, 10:42:39 AM
Cauliflower farts

Well, those are pretty nasty ...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 21, 2019, 11:01:22 AM
Well, those are pretty nasty ...


Destroyer of worlds


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 21, 2019, 11:08:51 AM
Destroyer of worlds

... in 12 years.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on May 21, 2019, 11:19:17 AM
(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-4206-art5cdc154a0c3d3.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 21, 2019, 12:26:03 PM
... and now cauliflower is racist:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-growing-cauliflower-colonial

https://youtu.be/PUJ6o4tqwyM?t=84

Also: community gardens aren't popular with people of color because of colonialism.


I'm confused. She wants people to grow their veggies locally ... but in New York they should be growing yucca plants rather than cauliflowers?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on May 21, 2019, 12:55:24 PM
... and now cauliflower is racist:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-growing-cauliflower-colonial

https://youtu.be/PUJ6o4tqwyM?t=84

Also: community gardens aren't popular with people of color because of colonialism.


When you combine that with her video a while back where she says plants growing out of the ground is like magic, we must conclude that magic is racist.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 21, 2019, 12:57:51 PM
I don't know if cauliflower is racist but it is nasty and evil.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 21, 2019, 01:25:43 PM
... in 12 years.


Let's end this now, feed the cows cauliflower


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: griz on May 21, 2019, 01:31:11 PM
AOC from the interview:

Quote
“What I love too is growing plants that are culturally familiar to the community. It’s so important,” she said as she filmed a community garden in the Bronx.

“So that’s really how you do it right. That is such a core component of the Green New Deal is having all of these projects make sense in a cultural context, and it’s an area that we get the most pushback on because people say, ‘Why do you need to do that? That’s too hard.’”

You know, the more I hear from her the more I think she has no clue at all about real life.  Little details seem to escape her notice, such as the fact that as far back as we know people grew crops for food instead of merely a cultural experiment.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: griz on May 21, 2019, 01:35:30 PM
I just realized I'm missing out on the fortune that I could be making.  I can embrace the Green New Deal and get the concession to sell her all the Brawndo those gardens need.  The commercial has already been recorded.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: French G. on May 21, 2019, 05:02:00 PM
Alright, I listened to the colonizing cauliflower video. And composting is, like, hard. And stuff. I have laughed along with most reports on her while still realizing that given sufficient power she would be right at home administering coup de grace when we're rounded up.

But until now I never listened to her. Her speech patterns are not those of an intelligent person. My God she is dumb. But she was precocious and fun to look at, so someone kept patting her on the head. Now I want to know how SNL nailed it so good with "Girl at the party you wish you hadn't talked to."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 21, 2019, 07:38:41 PM
Her speech patterns are not those of an intelligent person. My God she is dumb.

I agree. Thank you for mentioning what I was too chicken to bring up.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on May 22, 2019, 12:11:30 PM
Wait until the next Democrat president appoints her Secretary of Agriculture.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 22, 2019, 12:22:25 PM
Wait until the next Democrat president appoints her Secretary of Agriculture Magic.

FIFY


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on May 23, 2019, 10:00:38 AM
(https://www.msgo.com/attachments/545-png.147191/)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 25, 2019, 12:23:27 PM
Snopes swings and misses (again) and the Babylon Bee knocks it out of the park (again).

Quote
UPDATE: we have been notified by Snopes that this story is not true. We would like to retract it. Ocasio-Cortez did not appear on The Price Is Right and guess that everything is free. We apologize for the confusion.https://

https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2019/05/25/i-am-dying-the-babylon-bees-response-to-snopes-fact-checking-its-story-about-aoc-and-the-price-is-right-is-fantastic/


I have to again remark at what a good site Snopes was... 20 years ago. TDSanoya will destroya.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: lee n. field on May 25, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
Quote
Quote from: fistful on May 22, 2019, 03:11:30 PM
Wait until the next Democrat president appoints her Secretary of Agriculture Magic.
FIFY

Lysenkoism


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 31, 2019, 05:59:18 AM
The Amazon/NYC deal may still be on.
Be curious to see if AOC can resist running her mouth on this again

Despite Ocasio-Cortez's Best Efforts, Amazon May Be Returning to New York
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/05/31/despite-ocasiocortezs-best-efforts-amazon-may-be-returning-to-new-york-n2547014


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 31, 2019, 06:41:18 AM
The Amazon/NYC deal may still be on.
Be curious to see if AOC can resist running her mouth on this again

Despite Ocasio-Cortez's Best Efforts, Amazon May Be Returning to New York
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/05/31/despite-ocasiocortezs-best-efforts-amazon-may-be-returning-to-new-york-n2547014

Stupid on Amazon's part, IMO. Of course they're libs, so what do you expect?
The smart move (again, IMO) would have been to just go to any of the other cities on their list that wanted them, and if Amazon does for whatever reason really, really want something in NY or NYC, bide their time and let NY come begging.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Doggy Daddy on May 31, 2019, 10:23:21 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/townhall/reu/ha/2019/106/2a32470f-cafd-4ccc-8072-6b7c87636b0e.png)


The expression on her face is that of a chicken watching a card trick.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on May 31, 2019, 10:56:50 AM
Chickens are offended at the comparison.  [tinfoil]


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 31, 2019, 01:42:08 PM

The expression on her face is that of a chicken watching a card trick.


More like a spoiled child whose parents just told her "No."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 04, 2019, 09:27:33 AM
Here we go: The only way for "everyone" to have a home to live in is if we stop builders and landlords from making a profit.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/06/04/she-is-nuts-aoc-proclaims-that-our-guarantee-to-having-a-home-comes-before-someone-elses-privilege-to-earn-a-profit-video/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 04, 2019, 10:15:14 AM
Let's repeat all the mistakes that every socialist govt has made before. What can possibly go wrong? 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on June 04, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
Here we go: The only way for "everyone" to have a home to live in is if we stop builders and landlords from making a profit.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/06/04/she-is-nuts-aoc-proclaims-that-our-guarantee-to-having-a-home-comes-before-someone-elses-privilege-to-earn-a-profit-video/
There are houses and then there are houses.
(https://secure.img1-fg.wfcdn.com/im/11124490/resize-h505-w505%5Ecompr-r85/1018/10182650/Griselda+Log+Cabin+Dog+House.jpg)

Tomorrow she will complain about employers not paying fair wages.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on June 04, 2019, 10:56:30 AM
Here we go: The only way for "everyone" to have a home to live in is if we stop builders and landlords from making a profit.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/06/04/she-is-nuts-aoc-proclaims-that-our-guarantee-to-having-a-home-comes-before-someone-elses-privilege-to-earn-a-profit-video/


Well, she is from NYC, home of rent control. (And housing shortages and sky-high rents. Not that the three are related in any way.)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 04, 2019, 11:34:30 AM
Here we go: The only way for "everyone" to have a home to live in is if we stop builders and landlords from making a profit.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/06/04/she-is-nuts-aoc-proclaims-that-our-guarantee-to-having-a-home-comes-before-someone-elses-privilege-to-earn-a-profit-video/

Where does anything declare that having a home is a "right" and that making a profit is a "privilege"?

This chick IS now the government, and she has no understanding whatsoever of the role of government.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on June 04, 2019, 12:15:21 PM
Where does anything declare that having a home is a "right" and that making a profit is a "privilege"?

This chick IS now the government, and she has no understanding whatsoever of the role of government.
Of course she does.  The role of government is to give away other people's money to get reelected while selling loopholes and carve outs in the law. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 04, 2019, 12:42:52 PM
Of course she does.  The role of government is to give away other people's money to get reelected while selling loopholes and carve outs in the law. 


That's the purpose of politicians, which she understands all too well. I respectfully submit that it is not the role of government. The sticky wicket is that government is populated with and run by politicians ...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 10, 2019, 06:10:44 PM
Socialist wants a pay raise:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/06/10/socialist-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-can-see-why-a-pay-raise-for-congress-makes-sense-now/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 10, 2019, 07:12:06 PM
Socialist wants a pay raise:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/06/10/socialist-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-can-see-why-a-pay-raise-for-congress-makes-sense-now/

And it only took her six months to officially join the gravy train ...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 11, 2019, 04:53:01 AM
And she doubles down:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/06/11/sounds-like-extortion-aoc-doubles-down-in-thread-about-why-congress-better-get-a-raise-or-else-and-just-wow/

"How can you expect me to live on $180K/yr and not take bribes?!? I've got a fancy condo with a rooftop pool and a doorman that I have to pay for! Power to the workers!"

ETA: I also find it comical that her thesis is "consistency". High wage "workers" should get cost of living increases just like minimum wage workers should. Unless they make some dollar amount more than she does, then they need to "pay their fair share" because they're the evil 1%.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 11, 2019, 05:47:26 AM
Two birds with one stone   :rofl:

(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb061119dAPR20190611034506.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 11, 2019, 11:33:11 AM
And she doubles down:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/06/11/sounds-like-extortion-aoc-doubles-down-in-thread-about-why-congress-better-get-a-raise-or-else-and-just-wow/


Best response I've seen yet:

https://twitter.com/danobrien1972/status/1138416059449581568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 12, 2019, 05:20:51 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/bf3e3882a42b8a28565dda25e3190088/5D929666/t51.2885-15/e35/62397210_330137690997444_366067186520168014_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&se=7&ig_cache_key=MjA2MjE0MTg3NDMwNjU5OTk4Mw%3D%3D.2)


eta: Unembiggenated


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on June 12, 2019, 03:33:31 PM
Wow, a zero sense coin that's worth 0 cents.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on June 13, 2019, 08:01:39 AM
What's she going to do with a raise? She only has 12 years to spend it all.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on June 14, 2019, 01:18:43 PM
She has agreed to work with Ted Cruz on getting birth control to be OTC, and not prescription.  However, she does not realize it was Senate D's that killed it last time (at the behest of Planned Parenthood).

It will be interesting to see who kills it this time.  Pelosi or Schumer.... [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 22, 2019, 05:46:51 AM
Oh climate change - is there anything you CAN'T do?

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/06/22/alexa-whats-a-non-sequitur-aoc-manages-to-link-the-philly-oil-refinery-explosion-to-climate-change/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 22, 2019, 05:54:15 AM
2+2=What ever AOC wants it to be.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 25, 2019, 05:21:52 AM
"Not staged".  ;/

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/06/25/real-or-staged-aoc-shares-photos-from-her-2018-visit-to-the-border-and-people-have-questions/



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on June 25, 2019, 08:14:32 AM
Wow, those border patrol guards must be real intimidating. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on June 25, 2019, 08:24:30 AM
2+2=What ever AOC wants it to be.

Of course it is. Don't you know that math is hard for girls?  :O :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on June 25, 2019, 09:15:44 AM
Of course it is. Don't you know that math is hard for girls?  :O :rofl:

Get with the program, math is racist, sexist, homophobic, and nazi.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 25, 2019, 09:43:40 AM
Get with the program, accurate math is racist, sexist, homophobic, and nazi.

FIFY


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 26, 2019, 06:07:25 AM
Oh boy
AOC's pick got elected in NYC

‘We did it y’all’: Big win for AOC’s movement as 31-year-old Queer Latina public defender Tiffany Caban elected as Queens DA
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/06/26/we-did-it-yall-big-win-for-aocs-movement-as-31-year-old-queer-latina-public-defender-tiffany-caban-elected-as-queens-da-updated-a/

Quote

    We built a campaign to reduce recidivism.  What is this?
    Decriminalize poverty. When was it made illegal to be poor?
    End mass incarceration. Open the doors!
    To protect our immigrant communities. illegals wecome
    Keep people rooted in their communities with the access to support and services.  FREE STUFF!

    — Tiffany Cabán (@CabanForQueens) June 26, 2019


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 26, 2019, 06:11:19 AM
Had to look it up

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re·cid·i·vism
/rəˈsidəˌvizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: recidivism

    the tendency of a convicted criminal to reoffend.
    "the prison has succeeded in reducing recidivism"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: lee n. field on June 26, 2019, 07:13:22 AM
"Not staged".  ;/

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/06/25/real-or-staged-aoc-shares-photos-from-her-2018-visit-to-the-border-and-people-have-questions/



"Pouty white girl"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on June 26, 2019, 06:20:39 PM
Had to look it up



Your next word is "dotard."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 26, 2019, 06:34:40 PM
"Not staged".  ;/

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/06/25/real-or-staged-aoc-shares-photos-from-her-2018-visit-to-the-border-and-people-have-questions/

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/c5ac3dc35c038f23dce7e4782c32b6ad/tumblr_ptpxnyxE6T1u1w3aqo5_1280.jpg)




(https://66.media.tumblr.com/52af90fc41de323879296a912ccf1a87/tumblr_ptpxnyxE6T1u1w3aqo3_1280.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2019, 06:58:51 PM
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1143982437376188416/photo/1


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on June 26, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
Nevermind. That didn't work.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 26, 2019, 07:58:16 PM
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1143982437376188416/photo/1

From the comments:

"Este mujer una farsa" ==> "This woman is a farce"

Even the Hispanics don't believe her act.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: markdido on June 26, 2019, 08:22:28 PM
What's she going to do with a raise? She only has 12 years to spend it all.

She wants a raise AND wants the citizens to pay off her college loan debt.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 26, 2019, 09:49:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/yfFr1YC.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on June 27, 2019, 05:50:52 AM
Nice. 

Been a long time since I watched that show.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on June 28, 2019, 05:43:59 AM
The border photos were staged at an empty parking lot.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-27/photos-reveal-aoc-was-crying-over-empty-parking-lot



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 28, 2019, 09:51:47 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/MfKXpV4/51-EF1-F68-B3-F5-4-DD2-ADC4-0-B2-CD3-A97-DBE.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 29, 2019, 04:49:04 AM
[img]https://i.ibb.co/MfKXpV4/51-EF1-F68-B3-F5-4-DD2-ADC4-0-B2-CD3-A97-DBE.jpg


Ha ha - nice reference!  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 30, 2019, 07:37:47 AM
"Being someone's daughter isn't a career qualification."

Neither is bartending.

She's dunking on Ivanka Trump participating in the G20. She claims Trump is "phoning in" his participation via Ivanka in the "important G20." Nevermind that Trump was doing something historic with North Korea while unqualified AOC was babbling this.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/06/30/take-so-many-seats-honey-after-failing-to-dunk-on-ivanka-trump-aoc-babbles-about-leadership-and-it-goes-really-wrong/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 30, 2019, 07:55:09 AM
"Being someone's daughter isn't a career qualification."

Neither is bartending.

She's dunking on Ivanka Trump participating in the G20. She claims Trump is "phoning in" his participation via Ivanka in the "important G20." Nevermind that Trump was doing something historic with North Korea while unqualified AOC was babbling this.


G20 is about international finance and economics. Ivanka Trump owns multiple, successful businesses operating internationally. That's a lot more qualification than "being someone's daughter" ... or being a bartender.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 30, 2019, 08:07:33 AM
But she knows magic


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on June 30, 2019, 12:04:01 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/MfKXpV4/51-EF1-F68-B3-F5-4-DD2-ADC4-0-B2-CD3-A97-DBE.jpg)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 01, 2019, 11:57:44 AM
Now she claims that as she was touring a CBP facility with CBP officers, one of them - while she was standing there - told women and children to drink out of the toilet.

I mean, come on man...

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/01/this-never-happened-take-aocs-latest-claims-about-whats-happening-at-this-cbp-detention-center-with-a-massive-grain-of-salt/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 01, 2019, 12:04:43 PM
It's not a lie if she's morally correct.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 01, 2019, 12:24:35 PM
It's not a lie if she's morally correct.

https://youtu.be/vn_PSJsl0LQ

Interesting how her people also coincidentally discovered a "secret, racist, sexist CBP facebook group" literally hours before her CBP visit.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 01, 2019, 12:54:39 PM
Follow up. Yet to be verified report says that she started going off on CBP officers and never actually made it inside the facility to witness the toilet drinking.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/01/so-she-lied-looks-like-aoc-just-got-royally-busted-for-lying-about-her-horrifying-experience-at-a-cbp-detention-center/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 01, 2019, 01:12:10 PM
I don't know what kind of facility it was that AOC did or didn't tour but, if it actually has cells, each cell that has a toilet also has a faucet from which "residents" can drink. Penal facility toilets are always stainless steel, one-piece, integrated toilet/sink fixtures.

https://www.acorneng.com/security-plumbing-fixtures

(https://www.acorneng.com/uploads/images/1418-AL_rxA.jpg?width=270&height=270&mode=max&404=default)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 01, 2019, 02:03:42 PM
I don't know what kind of facility it was that AOC did or didn't tour but, if it actually has cells, each cell that has a toilet also has a faucet from which "residents" can drink. Penal facility toilets are always stainless steel, one-piece, integrated toilet/sink fixtures.

https://www.acorneng.com/security-plumbing-fixtures

[img]https://www.acorneng.com/uploads/images/1418-AL_rxA.jpg?width=270&height=270&mode=max&404=default

Very good point. It would be interesting to see if that's how the facility was setup. They seem to be calling it "detention facility", which in MSMspeak, could mean anything.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 01, 2019, 03:44:31 PM
Very good point. It would be interesting to see if that's how the facility was setup. They seem to be calling it "detention facility", which in MSMspeak, could mean anything.

Well, a few years ago I did a Citizens' Police Academy with the PD in the adjacent town. Series of 2-hour classes, one night a week, at which various officers explained how the department handles different functions. I even leaned how to lift fingerprints. We toured the station house, and even the holding cells in a small town police department had those combination sink/toilet units.

It wouldn't surprise me if the people were in cells -- if it's a "detention" facility that's all they have to offer. BUT ... when AOC tweets about "refugees" being kept in cells, the image you get is that they're locked up. I'll bet the cell doors weren't locked, or even closed.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 01, 2019, 04:01:55 PM
Shampoo is so scarce, the "inmates" are slipping it to AOC to sneak out of the facility and show the world.

That looks like a shampoo and/or bodywash packet similar to what I've had in many budget hotels. But I guess that would be torture for someone who needs $20 lipstick. Also, is she implying women's hair is falling out from not being washed? That means there should be around a billion third world women walking around bald.


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/01/nobody-believes-you-aoc-and-her-corrupt-pal-push-full-steam-ahead-with-dubious-account-of-detention-center-visit/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 01, 2019, 04:06:02 PM

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/01/nobody-believes-you-aoc-and-her-corrupt-pal-push-full-steam-ahead-with-dubious-account-of-detention-center-visit/

Zing!

Quote
Ashley StClair 🇺🇸 @stclairashley
Replying to @AOC

I’m starting to think you and Jussie Smollett are related
2,814
5:18 PM - Jul 1, 2019


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 01, 2019, 07:58:28 PM
Hawkmoon called it:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/07/01/backpedal-alert-aoc-confirms-reporters-suspicion-after-claim-of-detention-center-women-drinking-from-toilet-but-the-spin-keeps-coming/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 01, 2019, 08:40:34 PM
"I’m starting to think you and Jussie Smollett are related."

Posting this again, just because it's so freakin' hilarious.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 01, 2019, 11:55:58 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7201939/Border-patrol-agents-shared-Photoshopped-images-AOC-performing-oral-sex-secret-Facebook-group.html

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I don't think it's possible for the toilet in one of those combo units to have water and the faucet (and drinking fountain, if they have one) to not have water. The whole thing is fed from a single inlet pipe. Either everything has water, or nothing has water.

Quote
A second member of Congress claimed in an online video that a single detainee in El Paso had told her she was advised to drink toilet water.

'One woman said that the border patrol agent told her to - if she wanted water, just to drink from the toilet, California Democratic Rep. Judy Chu said.

I wonder if this is just a case of a failure to communicate. A BP agent may have been asked for a glass of water and told this one detainee that she could get water from the tap attached to the toilet unit. If the detainee didn't speak English and that particular BP agent didn't speak Spanish (or didn't speak it fluently), it's very possible that the detainee misinterpreted what she was told.

I'll still bet the cell doors are left wide open and unlocked. Something I read said these detainees were recently moved into the detention center from living in tents. Well, my goodness gracious -- it's the southwest United States, and it's July. Tents must have been like ovens. I suspect they were moved into the detention center so they could be in a climate-controlled environment.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Chester32141 on July 02, 2019, 11:10:31 AM
This may help ...  :cool:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1145926755078852608.html



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 02, 2019, 01:12:23 PM
I'm thinking she may have found an even deeper end of the crazy pool

Quote

    .@AOC after leaving the Clint, Texas border facility: "I was not safe from the officers in that facility" pic.twitter.com/jud4QADFJq

    — Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) July 1, 2019

Quote

    Just left the 1st CBP facility.

   I see why CBP officers were being so physically &sexually threatening towards me.

    Officers were keeping women in cells w/ no water & had told them to drink out of the toilets.

    This was them on their GOOD behavior in front of members of Congress.

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 1, 2019
Quote

    And to these CBP officers saying they felt “threatened” by me –

    They were literally discussing making a GoFundMe for an officer who attacked my on my tour.

    They confiscated my phone, and they were all armed. I’m 5’4”.

    They’re just upset I exposed their inhumane behavior.

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 2, 2019
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/02/ocasio-cortez-i-was-not-safe-from-the-officers-during-migrant-shelter-visit/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 02, 2019, 02:50:37 PM
I'm thinking she may have found an even deeper end of the crazy pool
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/02/ocasio-cortez-i-was-not-safe-from-the-officers-during-migrant-shelter-visit/


Do the CBP agents have any recourse for slander/liable/defamation of character against Cortez?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 02, 2019, 03:34:15 PM
Do the CBP agents have any recourse for slander/liable/defamation of character against Cortez?

They should have recourse, and they should add this idiot to the lawsuit:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/07/02/another-congresswoman-says-she-certainly-did-not-feel-safe-among-border-patrol-officers-feared-attack/

The crap they're saying is seriously F'd up. Whatever you may think of cops, the idea that CBP would somehow physically/sexually assault congressional reps on an official tour is just beyond bizarre. The crap AOC has lied about over the last two days should be grounds for her immediate resignation.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 02, 2019, 03:36:32 PM
The crap AOC has lied about over the last two days should be grounds for her immediate resignation.

More to the point, it should be grounds for her immediate censure.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 02, 2019, 03:39:54 PM
They should have recourse, and they should add this idiot to the lawsuit:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/07/02/another-congresswoman-says-she-certainly-did-not-feel-safe-among-border-patrol-officers-feared-attack/

The crap they're saying is seriously F'd up. Whatever you may think of cops, the idea that CBP would somehow physically/sexually assault congressional reps on an official tour is just beyond bizarre. The crap AOC has lied about over the last two days should be grounds for her immediate resignation.

Wait ...

Quote
Rep. @NormaJTorres says she feared CBP officers would attack her while she toured a border facility yesterday.

"I certainly did not feel safe to be inside this location. … I also voiced my concern for the safety of my staff that was left outside." pic.twitter.com/qhHEOWW2JD

What possible danger could your staff have been in, outside the wire, if all the BP agents were inside, attacking you and AOC?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 02, 2019, 04:03:53 PM
Where's that story where she said that old men are hot for her otherwise they wouldn't be talking about her at Fox or something like that?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on July 02, 2019, 04:49:06 PM
Where's that story where she said that old men are hot for her otherwise they wouldn't be talking about her at Fox or something like that?

I admit it. Airheads are hot.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 03, 2019, 05:05:16 AM
Too bad they didn't let Rover loose during her visit   >:D

(http://flowjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/The-Prisoner.png)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on July 03, 2019, 07:10:07 AM
Well, a few years ago I did a Citizens' Police Academy with the PD in the adjacent town. Series of 2-hour classes, one night a week, at which various officers explained how the department handles different functions. I even leaned how to lift fingerprints. We toured the station house, and even the holding cells in a small town police department had those combination sink/toilet units.

It wouldn't surprise me if the people were in cells -- if it's a "detention" facility that's all they have to offer. BUT ... when AOC tweets about "refugees" being kept in cells, the image you get is that they're locked up. I'll bet the cell doors weren't locked, or even closed.

Someone on the Twitters reminded us that AOC also doesn't know what garbage disposals are, so...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 03, 2019, 08:40:27 AM
Someone on the Twitters reminded us that AOC also doesn't know what garbage disposals are, so...

I had forgotten about that.

Seriously, this doesn't look like any jail or prison cell I've ever seen:

(http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59203.0;attach=3358)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on July 03, 2019, 09:17:55 AM
They expect these children to play BACKGAMMON!  Those MONSTERS!

I'll bet there's no WiFi either!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on July 03, 2019, 09:20:52 AM
They expect these children to play BACKGAMMON!  Those MONSTERS!

shouldn't take much to get Omar to parrot that:

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/91109/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on July 03, 2019, 09:36:00 AM
shouldn't take much to get Omar to parrot that:

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/91109/

Didn't actually know that, I was trying to make a funny, but having read that, sure as *expletive deleted*it someone will be complaining soon.

Side note:  Today's most read Fatwa (on that site) is: "Using sex toys to masturbate one's spouse" (with 119 reads).  I gotta admit, I'm a little curious what Islam says about that one.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 03, 2019, 11:21:05 AM
Well, no more "Mini-AOC" youtube videos due to death threats against the kid and her family.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/03/absolutely-disgusting-little-girl-behind-viral-mini-aoc-videos-reportedly-targeted-with-harassment-and-death-threats/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 03, 2019, 05:38:37 PM
Well, no more "Mini-AOC" youtube videos due to death threats against the kid and her family.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/03/absolutely-disgusting-little-girl-behind-viral-mini-aoc-videos-reportedly-targeted-with-harassment-and-death-threats/

Saw that. Absolutely disgusting how people could do that.   


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 03, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
One of Mini-AOC's last bits:

(https://i.imgur.com/nA765C3.jpg)



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 09, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/09/aoc-lashes-out-at-kellyanne-conway-for-employing-this-sexist-term-republicans-use-to-describe-her-beef-with-nancy-pelosi/

Meow.

https://youtu.be/KQrJ7Jcendo


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 09, 2019, 12:31:17 PM
The stupid, it burns


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on July 09, 2019, 12:48:45 PM
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/09/aoc-lashes-out-at-kellyanne-conway-for-employing-this-sexist-term-republicans-use-to-describe-her-beef-with-nancy-pelosi/

Meow.

https://youtu.be/KQrJ7Jcendo

My favorite part is how "catfight" is now a Republican political term. I thought it featured prominently in an episode of Seinfeld, but how could that be? Mandela effect I guess.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: adively on July 10, 2019, 07:35:04 AM
What is good for the goose is good for the gander:  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-to-face-lawsuit-over-blocking-twitter-users-following-appeals-court-ruling-on-trump (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-to-face-lawsuit-over-blocking-twitter-users-following-appeals-court-ruling-on-trump)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 11, 2019, 04:50:19 AM
Ha ha - Nancy Pelosi is a racist.  :rofl:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/07/10/escalation-aocs-now-trying-to-hold-off-nancy-pelosi-by-throwing-race-cards-at-her/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 11, 2019, 04:52:08 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/RHiD0K65NxxLO/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 11, 2019, 06:12:53 AM
Darn it. Now I have to somewhat agree with AOC on something. Obviously for very different reasons, but certainly conservatives and libertarians have always had freedom and privacy concerns regarding DHS, specifically TSA. That part of it is a conversation that should continue and not be partisan.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/07/11/oh-honey-stop-aoc-explains-why-getting-rid-of-dhs-is-like-totally-not-all-that-radical-and-stuff-misses-one-key-thing/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 11, 2019, 06:21:02 AM
She's just doing it to get her name in the news today


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 11, 2019, 08:11:17 AM
Darn it. Now I have to somewhat agree with AOC on something. Obviously for very different reasons, but certainly conservatives and libertarians have always had freedom and privacy concerns regarding DHS, specifically TSA. That part of it is a conversation that should continue and not be partisan.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/07/11/oh-honey-stop-aoc-explains-why-getting-rid-of-dhs-is-like-totally-not-all-that-radical-and-stuff-misses-one-key-thing/

I don't disagree with her (on this topic). I never understood the "need" for a Department of Homeland Security. But she also used the word "reorganization," and I think that's appropriate. There was a Customs and Immigration department pre-DHS. There was a Border Patrol pre-DHS. There was a Coast Guard pre-DHS. These agencies were all moved into DHS by -- reorganization. So it shouldn't be rocket science to move those agencies back where they came from while disbanding the DHS and abolishing the TSA -- and maybe dumping the BATFE in the process.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 11, 2019, 01:27:48 PM
Nevvvvermind

Ocasio-Cortez: Pelosi Is ‘Absolutely Not’ a Racist
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/11/ocasio-cortez-pelosi-is-absolutely-not-a-racist/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Scout26 on July 11, 2019, 03:54:17 PM
Nevvvvermind

Ocasio-Cortez: Pelosi Is ‘Absolutely Not’ a Racist
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/11/ocasio-cortez-pelosi-is-absolutely-not-a-racist/

Someone reminded AOC where re-election funding comes from...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on July 11, 2019, 05:08:27 PM
Nevvvvermind

Ocasio-Cortez: Pelosi Is ‘Absolutely Not’ a Racist
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/11/ocasio-cortez-pelosi-is-absolutely-not-a-racist/

AOC need to get woke. Pelosi is white, she Speaker of the House, and she got mad stacks. In left-logic, she racist.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 11, 2019, 05:21:58 PM
Someone reminded AOC where re-election funding comes from...

But it's FREEEEEEEEE


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 11, 2019, 07:19:10 PM
But it's FREEEEEEEEE

Like magic.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on July 12, 2019, 05:54:09 AM
Where are the Govt backed reelection loans?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on July 12, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
She's still trying to put it in reverse after going over the cliff.

Ocasio-Cortez Denies Playing ‘Race Card’ on Pelosi: ‘Stupidly Untrue’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/12/aoc-stupidly-untrue-accuse-me-playing-race-card-against-pelosi/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on July 12, 2019, 05:41:06 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/10/feature/how-saikat-chakrabarti-became-aocs-chief-of-change/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.43c1e8f37d83
A puff piece that had this quote in it.  Pretty much what we have been saying about the environmentalist movement.
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Chakrabarti had an unexpected disclosure. “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal,” he said, “is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.” Ricketts greeted this startling notion with an attentive poker face. “Do you guys think of it as a climate thing?” Chakrabarti continued. “Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.”


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 12, 2019, 06:07:29 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/10/feature/how-saikat-chakrabarti-became-aocs-chief-of-change/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.43c1e8f37d83
A puff piece that had this quote in it.  Pretty much what we have been saying about the environmentalist movement.

Isn't it fortunate that AOC has a staff that's as clueless as she is?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on July 12, 2019, 06:20:01 PM
I'm wondering if her "pedestal time" is about up? It seems a significant number of dems have about had it with her and her posse or whatever they're called.

A comment I recently read sums up what I've been saying about them. They're basically the mean girl clique from High School.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on August 01, 2019, 06:30:50 AM
Has a sitting US Rep ever called for riots in the US before?

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During an interview with New York's Hot 97 earlier this week, Ocasio-Cortez argued "marginalized" communities have no choice but to riot against their so-called oppressors.

"I believe injustice is a threat to the safety of all people. Because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalize and marginalized...once someone doesn't have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot. And it doesn't have to be that way. I'm not even taking about Palestinians. I'm talking about communities in poverty in the United States; I'm talking about Latin America; I'm talking about all over the world," she said.

Two weeks ago Ocasio-Cortez was asked if she condemns the violent domestic terror attack carried out by an Antifa member at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement Center in Tacoma, Washington. She refused to give an answer.
AOC: People Have No Choice But to Violently Riot
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/08/01/aoc-advocates-for-violent-rioting-n2551004


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 01, 2019, 07:50:22 AM
Has a sitting US Rep ever called for riots in the US before?
AOC: People Have No Choice But to Violently Riot
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/08/01/aoc-advocates-for-violent-rioting-n2551004

If that's not grounds for censure, I don't know what is.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on August 01, 2019, 08:07:53 AM
If that's not grounds for censure, I don't know what is.

Not for a Democrat .... >:D ....  ;/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Fitz on August 07, 2019, 05:21:00 AM
If that's not grounds for censure, I don't know what is.

almost every single person here has made similar sentiments about the potential loss of 2nd amendment (or other) rights.

She's a moron, but lets not act like this is somehow unique in political rhetoric


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on August 14, 2019, 06:05:17 AM
My head hurts

WATCH: AOC Ironically Explains Why Americans Need To Study History
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/08/13/ironic-aoc-believes-americans-need-to-study-history-n2551648


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 14, 2019, 07:18:34 AM
My head hurts, too.

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If you, if we study our history, which, we’re supposed to study our history, especially as elected officials, I think we have a unique responsibility to study history. And what we see is concentration camps are not unique to any one period of time. We, in the United States, have a history of concentration camps with Japanese interment, in South Africa. They were part of a larger process in the Holocaust, but they were not unique, nor were they the actual death camps in the Holocaust either.

Lemme get this straight: The United States ran concentration camps for Japanese in South Africa, and that was part of the Holocaust.

REEEEEEALY? And you're telling me that I need to study history?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 20, 2019, 11:57:15 AM
"The Electoral College is a Scam."

Imbecile.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/20/aoc-declares-the-electoral-college-to-be-a-scam-that-perpetuates-racial-injustice-but-shes-cool-with-mocking-middle-america-video/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 20, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
"The Electoral College is a Scam."

Imbecile.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/20/aoc-declares-the-electoral-college-to-be-a-scam-that-perpetuates-racial-injustice-but-shes-cool-with-mocking-middle-america-video/

She probably thinks white voters paid Rick Singer for admission to the electoral college.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on August 20, 2019, 08:03:01 PM
I remember when I was a kid and they relocated all those minorities into the coastal ghettos, so we good white folks could have all the votes to ourselves out here in Deplorablestan. Yeah, we showed them but good!

 ;/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on August 24, 2019, 08:11:57 AM
From the category of BB headlines I should have suggested myself.  :facepalm:

https://babylonbee.com/news/ocasio-cortez-proposes-counting-white-peoples-ballots-as-35-of-a-vote


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on August 24, 2019, 08:15:37 AM
From the category of BB headlines I should have suggested myself.  :facepalm:

https://babylonbee.com/news/ocasio-cortez-proposes-counting-white-peoples-ballots-as-35-of-a-vote


Give her a few days to announce this herself


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 27, 2019, 05:05:44 PM
Republicans are so stupid that they don't know we live in a democracy.

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Well, it’s official: Republicans are now arguing that the US isn’t (& shouldn’t be) a democracy.

This is what they believe. From lobbyists writing their bills to sabotaging our civil rights, the GOP works to end democracy.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/27/whoops-if-aoc-thought-donald-trump-could-help-her-make-a-case-against-the-electoral-college-she-thought-wrong/



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on August 27, 2019, 06:05:13 PM
Republicans are so stupid that they don't know we live in a democracy.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/08/27/whoops-if-aoc-thought-donald-trump-could-help-her-make-a-case-against-the-electoral-college-she-thought-wrong/


She thinks Democrats don't push lobbyist-written legislation?  :facepalm:

Sorry, I know. In demagogue-speak any activist you disagree with is a lobbyist.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on August 27, 2019, 07:59:41 PM
I wonder if we went back 14 years we could find a Trump post saying he supported the electoral college.  >:D

Politics has gotten real entertaining since Jan. 20, 2017.   [tinfoil] [popcorn]   ;/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 27, 2019, 08:03:36 PM
I want to see one from AOC about the electoral collage.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 03:23:56 AM
One thing I was thinking about is that pretty much all these "eliminate the electoral college" imbeciles happen to also be pro-UN. How does the UN vote again? Oh yeah - one state, one vote. Andorra (pop 76,000) gets the same consideration as the US.

And actually, I'd be fine with elimination of the Electoral College if we went to the system a confederated Republic should be: One person, one vote in the states, and one state, one vote for federal elections.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on August 28, 2019, 05:07:35 AM
One thing I was thinking about is that pretty much all these "eliminate the electoral college" imbeciles happen to also be pro-UN. How does the UN vote again? Oh yeah - one state, one vote. Andorra (pop 76,000) gets the same consideration as the US.

And actually, I'd be fine with elimination of the Electoral College if we went to the system a confederated Republic should be: One person, one vote in the states, and one state, one vote for federal elections.
I would consider doing some sort of electoral college in the states by county.  Congressional districts are too gerrymandered to make that work.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 05:13:07 AM
I would consider doing some sort of electoral college in the states by county.  Congressional districts are too gerrymandered to make that work.

I'd be in favor of that with our current electoral system, to moderate the undo influence of urban regions on a state's electoral votes. I don't think it would be necessary if we had a "one state, one vote" system, because that would eliminate the electoral influence of say, CA - or TX for that matter.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 06:29:48 AM
How much influence should urban areas have? Do they deserve any? What about suburbs, do they require re-balancing?
Is there an exact ratio or percentage for how much an urban vote should count vs a rural vote?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 06:45:15 AM
How much influence should urban areas have? Do they deserve any?

They have most of the influence in the electoral system. How much more do you think they should have?

They, in CA, for example, pretty much dictate where CA's 55 electoral votes go. In a "one person/one vote for state, and one state one vote federal" system, they can keep defining the politics of individual states without unduly penalizing other states with their bajillion electoral votes.

In a confederation, why should one state have more influence than another just because it has more people? Each state should have equal influence on the federal level.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on August 28, 2019, 06:50:00 AM
How much influence should urban areas have? Do they deserve any? What about suburbs, do they require re-balancing?
Is there an exact ratio or percentage for how much an urban vote should count vs a rural vote?

No, and I very much doubt there is some way to mathematically quantify a metric.

However, I think distance from the urban area (that dominates the state) ought to be considered in value of the vote.

A down-state Illinois resident, for example, lives FAR closer to Memphis or Nashville (that are two states away!) than to Chicago and has almost no say in what occurs in his state. The problem is that urban areas are dictating the policies of an entire state that has concerns far afield of the cloistered views of urbanites.

It was part of the genius of the founders that they realized a large state could quickly overwhelm the concerns of many smaller states that differ or even conflict with the interests of the larger state.

It is part of the blindness of their founders that most states didn't attempt to address this weakness within the states, as well.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 28, 2019, 07:09:11 AM
We need less "unity" not more.

Power needs to be devolved down to the closest level to locally as is practical.

Otherwise I see civil war in the future, I know it's counterintuitive but large swaths of Americans of every race and ethnicity feel somewhat disenfranchised.

Diversity isn't our strength but an obstacle to overcome.

People need to feel like they have skin in the game and have real investment in their "neighborhood" otherwise it becomes tragedy of the commons writ large.



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 07:36:02 AM
They have most of the influence in the electoral system. How much more do you think they should have?
They should have proportional influence to their population when electing someone.
I believe that in any given election, 1 person = 1 vote is the best option.
This is because our elections are basic winner-take-all situtations where one person takes office and the loser(s) get nothing.
There is no protection for the minority in an election, it's simple majority rule.
Minority protections are best done through the power structure & rules of the government (filibuster!), not the elections to fill those positions within the government.

In a confederation, why should one state have more influence than another just because it has more people?
Should a state with 1000 people have equal influence as a state with a 1000000 people? At some point it becomes untenable.

The problem is that urban areas are dictating the policies of an entire state that has concerns far afield of the cloistered views of urbanites.
This is the real problem that everyone seems to be trying to "fix", government exerting too much control over people.
Tinkering with vote values so the minority exerts that same control isn't the way to fix that.
Power needs to be devolved down to the closest level to locally as is practical.
This is the correct solution.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 09:34:31 AM

Should a state with 1000 people have equal influence as a state with a 1000000 people? At some point it becomes untenable.


It's not untenable in a Republic. As I mentioned, even the UN works this way.

"Simple majority rule" on the federal level = places like Greece. No thanks.

Doesn't anyone read the Federalist Papers anymore?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 10:11:34 AM
It's not untenable in a Republic. As I mentioned, even the UN works this way.
You really believe that no matter how far off those balances are, people would just put up with a minority overruling them?
A republic is a good system but it's not magic and the UN is a joke, regularly ignored. Not something we need to try to emulate.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
You really believe that no matter how far off those balances are, people would just put up with a minority overruling them?
A republic is a good system but it's not magic and the UN is a joke, regularly ignored. Not something we need to try to emulate.

What minority? The balances are off now if you're looking at a popular vote on the federal level vs state, but you seem fine with tossing the electoral college for them and controlling 45 states via the populations of five. Are you sure you're not a Bulwark writer?

Tyranny of the masses.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 11:01:23 AM
What minority?
The minority of people who voted.
When it comes to elected positions, I believe people should vote. Not states, not electors, not counties, not regions, not districts. Each person gets to vote for 1 person to fill that position representing you and all votes should be counted equally. There is no reason for an extra layer of abstraction between the person voting and the outcome of an election. I see no need for my vote to be weighted more or less than anyone else's. There is no need for it to be aggregated at any level. I vote directly for my alderperson, my mayor, my county board member, my governor,  my state representatives, my federal representatives, etc. The same system would work fine for president. I see no reason to give more power to the state when it can reside with the individual.

Are you sure you're not a Bulwark writer?
Is this supposed to be slight?  ??? Are they notoriously anti electoral college?

Tyranny of the masses.
We're talking one position within the government and it's being decided by one election. Removing the electoral college doesn't make it tyranny.  ;/
It doesn't destroy all of the safeguards built into our system of government.



Edit: I found this interesting article at the Bulwark about what would change if we switched to a popular vote.
https://thebulwark.com/what-if-we-did-have-a-popular-vote-for-president/
 I swear I didn't write it! :P


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 28, 2019, 11:30:22 AM

We're talking one position within the government and it's being decided by one election. Removing the electoral college doesn't make it tyranny.  ;/
It doesn't destroy all of the safeguards built into our system of government.


We've already tinkered with one of the safeguards created by the Founders. With the way states have become so polarized it might not make any practical difference today but, originally, congressional representatives were to be elected by popular vote but senators were to be elected by the respective state legislatures. Essentially, as a sort of balance of power, representatives were supposed to represent the people and senators were supposed to represent the states.

And then somebody decided that senators should also be elected by popular vote.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 11:31:59 AM
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I see no need for my vote to be weighted more or less than anyone else's. There is no need for it to be aggregated at any level. I vote directly for my alderperson, my mayor, my county board member, my governor,  my state representatives, my federal representatives, etc. The same system would work fine for president. I see no reason to give more power to the state when it can reside with the individual.

You have your popular vote at the state level. You get to, by a majority, elect someone(s) to represent you and your state's interest at the federal level along with every other state in the confederation. If the confederated states in a Republic aren't treated individually and equally, what's the point?

Then we might as well be one big country with no states or state boundaries, and we can all live under the same gun control laws, or abortion laws, or any other contentious issues that states vehemently disagree on, based on how the majority of the country votes in geographically concentrated population centers.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 12:15:39 PM
We've already tinkered with one of the safeguards created by the Founders.
I didn't start this tinkering discussion, but people asked my opinion so I answered even though I've been over it before.
I was just curious about how much more tinkering we apparently need to counteract those urban voters. I guess maybe there isn't a precise amount, gotta go by feel.

Then we might as well be one big country with no states or state boundaries, and we can all live under the same gun control laws, or abortion laws, or any other contentious issues that states vehemently disagree on, based on how the majority of the country votes in geographically concentrated population centers.
Changing who votes on the president from the EC to individuals doesn't suddenly make states disappear or the president all-powerful.
The president would have the exact same powers he had before. There would still be different branches of government with different powers.
The division of powers and structure of the government (which is what protects against tyranny) isn't changing by having a popular vote for that position.
It wouldn't even necessarily change who wins.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 28, 2019, 12:37:36 PM
Electing the President by purely popular vote disenfranchises most of the country known as "flyover country" from ever having a say in presidential elections ever again. With a permanent Democrat presidency there would never be another Republican bill passed into law.

It may very well be the stupidest and most destructive change to the way we are governed that has ever been suggested.

If you want to accelerate reaching the end of the republic you couldn't come up with a better idea.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 12:51:47 PM
Electing the President by purely popular vote disenfranchises most of the country known as "flyover country" from ever having a say in presidential elections ever again.

Being in the minority is not the same as being disenfranchised.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RocketMan on August 28, 2019, 01:55:37 PM
Being in the minority is not the same as being disenfranchised.

If you are in a permanent minority, as would develop with the elimination of the EC, then you would be disenfranchised for all practical purposes.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Boomhauer on August 28, 2019, 02:04:47 PM
The economy would be *expletive deleted*ed, the justice system would be really *expletive deleted*ed(beyond the *expletive deleted*ed it is now), taxes would be sky *expletive deleted*ing high, crime would be insanely high, etc. do you think San Francisco, NYC, LA, Chicago’s issues becoming the default for the nation would be a good idea?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 02:20:09 PM
If you are in a permanent minority, as would develop with the elimination of the EC, then you would be disenfranchised for all practical purposes.

Does that mean all the people in deep red states who vote blue and vice versa are disenfranchised ? I don't think so.
Are green party or libertarian voters disenfranchised because their candidates don't even get on the ballot everywhere? I still don't think so, but you'd have a better argument there.
Words have meaning. Being disenfranchised does not mean "not getting what you want".

And besides that, I still don't believe it would mean permanent Democrat presidency.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 28, 2019, 02:45:49 PM
Does that mean all the people in deep red states who vote blue and vice versa are disenfranchised ? I don't think so.
Are green party or libertarian voters disenfranchised because their candidates don't even get on the ballot everywhere? I still don't think so, but you'd have a better argument there.
Words have meaning. Being disenfranchised does not mean "not getting what you want".

And besides that, I still don't believe it would mean permanent Democrat presidency.

Your theories about what would happen have been tried in the laboratories of the states.

California and Illinois are a great object lesson in leftist rule.

In Illinois I'm effectively without representation, Chicago dominates the state.

Why do you hate America? (said only half joking)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 03:02:34 PM
Your theories about what would happen have been tried in the laboratories of the states.

California and Illinois are a great object lesson in leftist rule.

In Illinois I'm effectively without representation, Chicago dominates the state.


Exactly an object lesson in why a representative republic is so important. It sucks to have to uproot and move if you're not represented in your state any longer. I was essentially without representation in my old state of CA. I at least had the option to move to Idaho where I can live with like minded people and again have representation for things that are important to me.

With the popular vote within states, each state can decide how they want to be run. US citizens within those states at least have options of moving if they no longer feel their state represents them. If the entire US no longer represents you, you're only option is ex-pating.

CA absolutely was the state that put Hillary Clinton over the top in the popular vote. The voting population of one state would have made her president, even though 40% of Californians voted for someone else.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 03:12:29 PM
Why do you hate America? (said only half joking)
Ya know, when I first asked about what percentage an urban vote should count for a rural vote I considered making a 3/5ths joke.
But I saw no need to ruffle feathers with a joke that people would probably be quite sensitive about.
I decided to keep things polite and not be offensive and will continue to do so  :angel:

Exactly an object lesson in why a representative republic is so important.
And to be clear, would having a popular vote for president turn us into something other than a representative republic?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 28, 2019, 03:16:46 PM
What is the good that would come from changing how we elect the President?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 03:27:05 PM
What is the good that would come from changing how we elect the President?
Everyone gets an equal say, it's a better and fairer system for electing someone who ostensibly represents everyone. That's all.
It's not some grand scheme to reconfigure the entire government or destroy America.
There is no reason for an extra layer of abstraction between the person voting and the outcome of an election. I see no reason to give more power to the state when it can reside with the individual.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 28, 2019, 03:38:34 PM
Everyone gets an equal say, it's a better and fairer system for electing someone who ostensibly represents everyone. That's all.
It's not some grand scheme to reconfigure the entire government or destroy America.

Your suicidal commitment to radical egalitarianism is breathtakingly myopic.

That's about the nicest thing I can say.





Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 04:05:29 PM
And to be clear, would having a popular vote for president turn us into something other than a representative republic?

Yes. The whole point of a representative republic is to represent everyone - not just the majority. I'm unsure why that is so difficult to understand.

What presidential candidate, who wants to win the popular vote, would spend even a minute of their time campaigning in any state with under 7 million people? They can just concentrate on sucking up to the top fifteen by population.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 28, 2019, 04:06:58 PM
Your suicidal commitment to radical egalitarianism is breathtakingly myopic.

That's about the nicest thing I can say.





I concur


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 28, 2019, 04:10:40 PM
Yes. The whole point of a representative republic is to represent everyone - not just the majority. I'm unsure why that is so difficult to understand.

What presidential candidate, who wants to win the popular vote, would spend even a minute of their time campaigning in any state with under 7 million people? They can just concentrate on sucking up to the top fifteen by population.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population

Because fairness or something.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 04:48:26 PM
Yes.
Wrong
Show me what definition of a representative republic you're using that no longer applies if the president is elected by popular vote instead of electors.
We still have the split state/federal governments, we still make laws through elected representatives, we still have different branches of government. It would still be a representative republic.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 28, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
Wrong
Show me what definition of a representative republic you're using that no longer applies if the president is elected by popular vote instead of electors.
We still have the split state/federal governments, we still make laws through elected representatives, we still have different branches of government. It would still be a representative republic.

And we would never have a republican, let alone conservative in the white house again. Imagine the damage that could do to the make up of the Supreme court.
It would also take a constitutional amendment to change things properly.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 05:03:53 PM
It would also take a constitutional amendment to change things properly.

Absolutely, and a constitutional amendment is not going to happen. It's all theoretical unless that interstate compact happens which isn't likely either (and I don't support anyway).
Yet we obviously can't have a discussion about the merits of a system without people going nuts about permanent liberal overlords and accusations of treason.  ;/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: zxcvbob on August 28, 2019, 05:27:55 PM
Another thing that the EC accomplishes is it compartmentalizes recounts.  Remember the Florida recount in... I think it was 2000?  Imagine what would happen if a national popular-vote resulted in a tie  :O  The recount and the challenges and the re-recounts would take forever.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 28, 2019, 05:33:48 PM
Wrong
Show me what definition of a representative republic you're using that no longer applies if the president is elected by popular vote instead of electors.
We still have the split state/federal governments, we still make laws through elected representatives, we still have different branches of government. It would still be a representative republic.

No, you're wrong. Several people have already explained this to you. When you can potentially ignore over 80% of population distributions geographically, you're not a representative republic. Or at least you're a lousy example of one.

Hillary Clinton won 51% of the popular vote by winning only 100 counties nationally. 100 out 3000. That was pretty much CA, TX, FL, and NY.

It has nothing to do with "people going nuts over liberal overlords". Those are your words, so save the rolly eyes for yourself. It's a crappy idea regardless of political party.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 28, 2019, 06:23:44 PM
When you can potentially ignore over 80% of population distributions geographically, you're not a representative republic. Or at least you're a lousy example of one.
Why does the geographical population distribution matter more than the actual voting population?
I'm the same person whether I live in Montana or New York, why should my vote for the same office count differently if I move?

It has nothing to do with "people going nuts over liberal overlords". Those are your words, so save the rolly eyes for yourself.
Excuse me for paraphrasing but it was brought up by a few other people...
With a permanent Democrat presidency there would never be another Republican bill passed into law.
The economy would be *expletive deleted*ed, the justice system would be really *expletive deleted*ed(beyond the *expletive deleted*ed it is now), taxes would be sky *expletive deleted*ing high, crime would be insanely high, etc.
And we would never have a republican, let alone conservative in the white house again. Imagine the damage that could do to the make up of the Supreme court.

People seem to be totally incapable of separating out how something that might hurt their political party might also be a fairer system.
A good system can produce a bad outcome. Our current system, which everyone else here seems to prefer, has produced some bad outcomes (Obama?).
It doesn't mean it's a bad system, but there might be better systems and there might be fairer systems.
I've been talking about fairness, everyone else keeps obsessing over the political ramifications.
It's a crappy idea regardless of political party
If that's true, why do people keep bringing up political parties in their arguments against it?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on August 28, 2019, 07:03:35 PM
Why does the geographical population distribution matter more than the actual voting population?
I'm the same person whether I live in Montana or New York, why should my vote for the same office count differently if I move?

You ought to know the answer to that. It requires candidates to compete for votes from multiple and heterogeneous regions. While the system has changed somewhat since the Framers' day, they understood the need to give smaller states some counterbalance against the larger states. That it also protects more rational hinterlanders against the depravity of the coasts is a bonus.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on August 29, 2019, 03:29:22 AM
You're concept of fairness is actually tyranny of the majority.

We are not supposed to be a Democracy.

There is nothing fair about large metropolitan areas ruling the country with an iron fist.

Your faulty concept of fairness will actually have the opposite effect and become the vehicle of injustice.

It's almost as if you want to fundmentally transform the USA into something different.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 29, 2019, 03:49:35 AM
Why does the geographical population distribution matter more than the actual voting population?
I'm the same person whether I live in Montana or New York, why should my vote for the same office count differently if I move?

Federalist #10 actually goes into that regarding "factions".

This is starting to go circular, so I don't want to keep typing basically the same thing over and over again, and I'm sure you don't either. Last word, as far as any debate with me on the subject, is yours if you want it. :)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 29, 2019, 03:50:10 AM
You're concept of fairness is actually tyranny of the majority.

We are not supposed to be a Democracy.

There is nothing fair about large metropolitan areas ruling the country with an iron fist.

Your faulty concept of fairness will actually have the opposite effect and become the vehicle of injustice.

It's almost as if you want to fundmentally transform the USA into something different.

Yeah, it was just a fictional book/movie series but wasn't that pretty much the premise of The Hunger Games?
At one time 1984 was "just fiction".


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 29, 2019, 04:18:33 AM
This is starting to go circular, so I don't want to keep typing basically the same thing over and over again, and I'm sure you don't either. Last word, as far as any debate with me on the subject, is yours if you want it. :)

I agree, this has gone circular and I'm pretty much done with it. My best guess is that maybe my regional identity just isn't as strong as others here so I don't see the need to vote at that level rather than the individual level. Counties, states, congressional districts, etc., are arbitrary entities that exist for limited purpose - they shouldn't have voting power in an election that could belong to the individual. I don't think my region or state is important enough, or so unique in our viewpoint that it needs extra voting power compared to it's population. If it was that great then people would vote with their feet and move. I think the fundamental disagreement lies somewhere in there, but it's hard for me to pinpoint.

I still think that it's absurd hyperbole to claim that changing who votes on one elected position within the entire government without changing any of the fundamental structure is a change in the type of government and is a direct path to tyranny.

And I'm still not sure what to make of that Bulwark comment.




Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on August 29, 2019, 04:26:05 AM
I agree, this has gone circular and I'm pretty much done with it. My best guess is that maybe my regional identity just isn't as strong as others here so I don't see the need to vote at that level rather than the individual level. Counties, states, congressional districts, etc., are arbitrary entities that exist for limited purpose - they shouldn't have voting power in an election that could belong to the individual. I don't think my region or state is important enough, or so unique in our viewpoint that it needs extra voting power compared to it's population. If it was that great then people would vote with their feet and move. I think the fundamental disagreement lies somewhere in there, but it's hard for me to pinpoint.

I still think that it's absurd hyperbole to claim that changing who votes on one elected position within the entire government without changing any of the fundamental structure is a change in the type of government and is a direct path to tyranny.

And I'm still not sure what to make of that Bulwark comment.


... have you read the Federalist papers?

Honestly, these aren't new arguments we're dealing with.

Further, these United States agreed to a structure within the government that preserved the concerns of the separate states. "Just changing how they vote" is not some minor issue, and we'd have never had a Union had your naive views allowed Massachusetts and Virginia to run roughshod over the rest of the states.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: DittoHead on August 29, 2019, 05:10:09 AM
... have you read the Federalist papers?
When referenced here or elsewhere I have, and as a result I would venture to guess I've read them more than the average voter.
Honestly, these aren't new arguments we're dealing with.
Further, these United States agreed to a structure within the government that preserved the concerns of the separate states.
No argument with that.
"Just changing how they vote" is not some minor issue
I never said it was a minor issue, clearly it gets a lot of people riled up and would take a constitutional amendment to change.
What I did say is that it wouldn't be a change in the fundamental structure/type of our government.
Would we still be a representative republic if we elected the president with popular vote?
I'm still looking for a definition (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/13/is-the-united-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/) that requires the electoral college.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: griz on August 29, 2019, 06:49:47 AM
If a candidate had the majority of the votes but 35 states voted overwhelmingly for the other, I would question the statement that they won the popular vote.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on August 31, 2019, 01:27:43 PM
How many trees died for this?

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/08/31/climate-crisis-averted-aoc-hands-out-green-new-deal-posters-in-the-bronx/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 31, 2019, 06:30:05 PM
When referenced here or elsewhere I have, and as a result I would venture to guess I've read them more than the average voter.


The average voter has never heard of The Federalist Papers.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on August 31, 2019, 07:34:15 PM
The average voter has never heard of The Federalist Papers.

The average voter has never read the Constitution. Or any book that's not about wizards, vampires, or dominance fetishists.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 31, 2019, 08:05:48 PM
The average voter has never read the Constitution. Or any book that's not about wizards, vampires, or dominance fetishists.

You left out Che Guevara and unicorns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3myr7WdTgr4

(Pay attention at 1:23)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on September 04, 2019, 02:19:08 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this as it could go in several active topics right now, but since it's the imbecile again, I guess here. I've been taking a step back on Crenshaw because he appears to support red flag laws, but he seems to be taking our side in this back and forth.

Pretty offensive to have someone claim that if you're a gun owner, you're an abuser of some kind, and apparently if you're not a gun owner, you shouldn't touch a gun, because you're probably an abuser of some kind (at least if you're a male).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/reps-ocasio-cortez-and-crenshaw-gun-control


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on September 11, 2019, 04:12:47 AM
Now she lobbies for erasing student loan debt while complaining about her own, which is a whole $20K. Besides the fact that she's lobbying in her own self-interest, she makes $170K/yr. She doesn't get to do the "poor bartender" thing anymore. Shut up and pay back the money you agreed to borrow.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-reveals-how-much-she-owes-in-student-loans-after-making-payment-during-college-debt-hearing


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on September 11, 2019, 05:08:12 AM
Adulting is hard.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 11, 2019, 10:02:05 AM
Adulting is hard.

And more hard when you're stupid.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on September 11, 2019, 10:06:21 AM
And more hard when you're stupid.

It's even harder when your parents instilled almost zero knowledge about how best to manage your life, household, and relationships, having outsourced that to the public schools who SPECTACULARLY fail at teaching those.

(I'm reminded, here, of her either real or feigned ignorance of a garbage disposal.)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on September 11, 2019, 12:18:03 PM
The average voter has never read the Constitution. Or any book that's not about wizards, vampires, or dominance fetishists.
What do you have against John Ringo books?   =D


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on September 11, 2019, 12:25:28 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this as it could go in several active topics right now, but since it's the imbecile again, I guess here. I've been taking a step back on Crenshaw because he appears to support red flag laws, but he seems to be taking our side in this back and forth.

Pretty offensive to have someone claim that if you're a gun owner, you're an abuser of some kind, and apparently if you're not a gun owner, you shouldn't touch a gun, because you're probably an abuser of some kind (at least if you're a male).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/reps-ocasio-cortez-and-crenshaw-gun-control
Military Arms Channel posted a synopsis of a conversation he had with Dan Crenshaw about that.  I meant to go back and read it in detail but I haven't.  I recall seeing that he said Crenshaw would not support any existing red flag law or bill so I am not sure where he stands.  I need to go back and read that.  I hope he was just unaware of just how bad that laws are, but we will see.  Crenshaw isn't from my district, but I figure he will rise to higher office at some point if he doesn't screw it up.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on September 11, 2019, 01:04:02 PM
I need to go back and read that.  I hope he was just unaware of just how bad that laws are, but we will see. 

I sure hope that's the case. I've been very impressed with most everything else I have heard from him. The "pro red flag" thing (and it may be MSM reporting, not his stance) really threw me for a loop.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on September 11, 2019, 04:22:24 PM
I sure hope that's the case. I've been very impressed with most everything else I have heard from him. The "pro red flag" thing (and it may be MSM reporting, not his stance) really threw me for a loop.
Here is a quote from MAC's patreon page.  I don't know if he posted it anywhere else and I don't want to re-post the whole thing.
Quote
1) He does not and will not support any currently proposed red flag law. He did say we should have a discussion with the anti-gunners about their merits, but he absolutely does not support and will not vote for anything being proposed at this time.

He said Crenshaw referenced a CATO institute study/article.  He said he asked for a link to the specific study he was referring to, but he found this list of related links on that site. 
https://www.cato.org/search#?cludoquery=red%20flag%20law&cludopage=1&cludorefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cato.org%2F&cludorefpt=Cato%20Institute%20%7C%20Individual%20Liberty%2C%20Free%20Markets%2C%20and%20Peace



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on November 30, 2019, 09:34:07 AM
Quote
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's promise to boost federal funding for social programs should not be considered "free stuff," because they are in fact "public goods," the New York Democrat said in a Monday tweet.
Quote
"People like to say, 'Oh, this is about free stuff.' This is not about free stuff," she said during the town hall. "I never want to hear the word, or the term, 'free stuff,' ever again."
FREE STUFF!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-policies-free-stuff


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on December 02, 2019, 05:25:16 AM
FREE STUFF!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-policies-free-stuff

Well, in this case, to a degree I sort of agree with her. A lot of what she's endorsed already exists. Of course, expanding on stuff that's already been given away for free still makes it free stuff.

But when you get to Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the Dem field outdoing themselves with an ever-increasing litany of new programs that are, apparently, universal, fundamental human rights and MUST be free, then we have a problem.

Free universal child care! Because it's society's responsibility to pay for a kid(s) you can't afford.

Free universal college education! Because you NEED that degree in Comparative Gender Norms of Underwater Basketweaving to ask the guy at the drive in if he wants fries with his value meal.

Free universal income of $1,000 a month? A Freedom Dividend? Haven't we learned from Federal Wefare programs that nothing is quite so enslaving as free money?

Yeah, you get the idea.





Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on December 06, 2019, 09:36:23 AM
I guess she got tired of dropping down the news cycle:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/06/dishonest-or-just-ignorant-aoc-grabs-another-shovel-and-digs-her-food-stamp-work-requirement-hole-a-little-deeper/

She needed to put "adults" in quotes. Make up your mind - you can't just be an adult at 18 when it's convenient or beneficial. "Adult" means having to suck it up on the responsibility front. Also, no one in the US starves to death (in the literal sense she is implying) unless they want to (or are like, being held captive by a maniac or something). Maybe visit some areas of Africa where yeah, people literally die of starvation.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MillCreek on December 06, 2019, 10:20:27 AM
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785167895/who-should-get-free-college-buttigieg-ad-inflames-key-divide-among-democrats?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news

I found this article useful in explaining the different approaches to the 'free college' issue amongst the Democratic candidates.  Call me when they start to talk about 'free voc-tech' as an option, too.  Not everyone wants, or is cut out for, the traditional four-year college approach.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on December 06, 2019, 10:26:57 AM
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785167895/who-should-get-free-college-buttigieg-ad-inflames-key-divide-among-democrats?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news

Call me when they start to talk about 'free voc-tech' as an option, too.  Not everyone wants, or is cut out for, the traditional four-year college approach.

I continually find it fascinating that the far left always talks about "working folks" but then treats anything that's not at least a 4 year university degree in a white collar subject as some kind of deplorable redneck punishment.

"How dare you suggest not everyone can get a degree in astrophysics? Only a racist would suggest someone go to welding school because they can't do physics. Everyone is a winner!"


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on December 06, 2019, 12:23:10 PM
I continually find it fascinating that the far left always talks about "working folks" but then treats anything that's not at least a 4 year university degree in a white collar subject as some kind of deplorable redneck punishment.

"How dare you suggest not everyone can get a degree in astrophysics? Only a racist would suggest someone go to welding school because they can't do physics. Everyone is a winner!"

I'd like it if we started failing people who shouldn't be high school graduates and make a high school diploma worth something, so thousands of jobs that just require basic competence can just start requiring a high school diploma.

Oh, and provide a high school track for people without the capability or inclination to go to college, as well.

I know that's crazy-talk, but I can dream.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on December 08, 2019, 06:04:58 AM
I guess she got tired of dropping down the news cycle:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/06/dishonest-or-just-ignorant-aoc-grabs-another-shovel-and-digs-her-food-stamp-work-requirement-hole-a-little-deeper/

She needed to put "adults" in quotes. Make up your mind - you can't just be an adult at 18 when it's convenient or beneficial. "Adult" means having to suck it up on the responsibility front. Also, no one in the US starves to death (in the literal sense she is implying) unless they want to (or are like, being held captive by a maniac or something). Maybe visit some areas of Africa where yeah, people literally die of starvation.

She said it's "notoriously difficult" to get disability.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MillCreek on December 08, 2019, 07:21:40 AM
She said it's "notoriously difficult" to get disability.

I think this may be true, to some degree.  At work, I interact with patients/attorneys who are filing for Social Security disability.  Apparently everyone is turned down at the first attempt. It seems to take quite a long time, and many exams and evaluations before you are approved.  I think it goes quicker if you have an experienced attorney, as opposed to doing it yourself.  I think also that once you get disability, you have to be periodically re-evaluated for it to continue. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on December 08, 2019, 07:39:29 AM
I think this may be true, to some degree.  At work, I interact with patients/attorneys who are filing for Social Security disability.  Apparently everyone is turned down at the first attempt. It seems to take quite a long time, and many exams and evaluations before you are approved.  I think it goes quicker if you have an experienced attorney, as opposed to doing it yourself.  I think also that once you get disability, you have to be periodically re-evaluated for it to continue. 

Millcreek is the expert here, but my layperson's perspective is that it seems to be both easy and difficult to get disability. Seems like people who would actually benefit more from exercise and diet can get the damn plates and drive around stores in a scooter, while people who have real issues that can't easily be solved through diet and other non-medical intervention methods have to fight for a year or two to get help.

I'm probably a big meanie, but half the people I see with plates seem to weight twice what they should. I realize some of that is medical conditions, but I think a lot of it is poor self-care.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 08, 2019, 06:20:11 PM
She said it's "notoriously difficult" to get disability.

From numerous cases I have been witness to, it seems to be that the more truly disabled one is the more difficult it is to get disability.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on December 16, 2019, 05:23:18 AM
She has the nerve to complain that she has too many Gold Plans to choose from. In the meantime, my crappy bronze plan just went up another $100/mo and I'm seriously thinking about throwing my principles out the window today, the last day of open season, and going on the exchange to get the subsidy. With all the expenses and deductions I had this year, I might just squeak under the $48K MAGI.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/15/aoc-is-very-angry-that-she-has-66-gold-obamacare-plans-to-choose-from/



Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on December 16, 2019, 05:26:50 AM
Of course she's mad. She HATES choice. That's why she's in the "medicaid for everyone!" No choice needed, necessary, or allowed!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Fly320s on December 16, 2019, 05:40:13 AM
Millcreek is the expert here, but my layperson's perspective is that it seems to be both easy and difficult to get disability. Seems like people who would actually benefit more from exercise and diet can get the damn plates and drive around stores in a scooter, while people who have real issues that can't easily be solved through diet and other non-medical intervention methods have to fight for a year or two to get help.

I'm probably a big meanie, but half the people I see with plates seem to weight twice what they should. I realize some of that is medical conditions, but I think a lot of it is poor self-care.

Handicap plates are not the same as SS disability.

You're right in that nearly anyone can get a handicap plate/tag, but to get Social Security to cut you a check every month is a different story.  Remember, FedGov will quickly and easily take your money, but getting money from DC requires mountains of paperwork, a red-tape scythe, and a congressman in your pocket.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on December 16, 2019, 05:41:46 AM
Handicap plates are not the same as SS disability.


Of course you're right.  I did not engage my brain on that one. :)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on December 16, 2019, 04:42:13 PM
She has the nerve to complain that she has too many Gold Plans to choose from. In the meantime, my crappy bronze plan just went up another $100/mo and I'm seriously thinking about throwing my principles out the window today, the last day of open season, and going on the exchange to get the subsidy. With all the expenses and deductions I had this year, I might just squeak under the $48K MAGI.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/15/aoc-is-very-angry-that-she-has-66-gold-obamacare-plans-to-choose-from/

Funny how she wasn't complaining that Congress gave itself better plans than it gave others.

None of them should get any benefits. It shouldn't be a cushy job that people get comfortable in.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on December 16, 2019, 05:07:34 PM
Handicap plates are not the same as SS disability.

You're right in that nearly anyone can get a handicap plate/tag, but to get Social Security to cut you a check every month is a different story.  Remember, FedGov will quickly and easily take your money, but getting money from DC requires mountains of paperwork, a red-tape scythe, and a congressman in your pocket.
But I have heard it can be easy if you get the right doctor to sign off on it.  Hard to say since I have no idea if the SSN actual does any enforcement on it. 

In general, free money tends to attract fraud. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 16, 2019, 05:29:07 PM
Ive got a little direct observation of the SSDI process.
My wife's brother developed serious and debilitating heart problems a few years ago (while I believe his health issues are mostly self inflicted by way of recreational pharmaceuticals is mostly irrelevant). He was a carpet and flooring installer, it can be very hard work. He has approximately 65% heart function, an un-treatable aneurism type thing as well as a few other issues that prevent him from doing the only job he knows. So not capable of any sort of manual labor, not really capable of retraining into a tech field without starting at zero. Even my cynical self concedes he is "disabled". He fought the system for almost 3 years and 4 hearings to get his approval.

My daughter-in-law's sister developed fibromyalgia. she applied for SSDI. When she got in front of the judge for the 1st hearing, along with whatever medical documentation she had she told the judge she should get SSDI because she has the same condition as her mother and her mother gets SSDI.  Approved.

My sister has suffered several strokes and is confined to a wheel chair and lives in a nursing home, mostly unable to care for herself, a ward of the state. has to regularly have someone fight just to keep her on whatever medicaid/welfare/ disability coverage she gets. It's not like she is going to get better, ever.

So, my experience tells me that the more actually disabled you are and truly deserving of SSDI the more difficult it is to get it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2020, 06:47:01 AM
Bit of a tangent to the article, but does anyone know what that map means? I couldn't find a legend in a quick search. I'm interested in seeing if she says she has affected elections at the blue dots or if her money is going there to affect future elections. And is it R vs D, or far left D vs currently elected D? It sounds kinda like she wants to kick out dems who aren't commie enough.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-riles-dems-by-refusing-to-pay-party-dues-bankrolling-her-colleagues-opponents





Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on January 10, 2020, 07:03:14 AM
Typical socialist behavior... your money is mine, but my money is never yours.

I couldn't figure out what the map was, either, but I did a quick scan of the article. The impression I got is that she's backing hard left contenders to run against established moderate Dems. Essentially she's trying to party harder left, and it's creating a lot of bad feelings and setting up a potential schism inside the party.

Which makes me a very sad panda...  :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 10, 2020, 08:25:00 AM
Typical socialist behavior... your money is mine, but my money is never yours.

I couldn't figure out what the map was, either, but I did a quick scan of the article. The impression I got is that she's backing hard left contenders to run against established moderate Dems. Essentially she's trying to party harder left, and it's creating a lot of bad feelings and setting up a potential schism inside the party.

Which makes me a very sad panda...  :rofl:

Agreed. She seems to be interested in funding a socialist/communist revolution within the Democratic party. I hope the Ds keep that in mind when Ms. AOC proposes bills that are important to her and her constituents.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 10, 2020, 08:33:20 AM

 In the meantime, my crappy bronze plan just went up another $100/mo and I'm seriously thinking about throwing my principles out the window today, the last day of open season, and going on the exchange to get the subsidy. With all the expenses and deductions I had this year, I might just squeak under the $48K MAGI.


Careful... it's not a subsidy. It's a credit. Big difference.

Essentially it's just putting part of your premium on layaway against a presumed end-of-year tax "refund" will cover the deferred amount. If the tax overpayment isn't enough to cover the credit, they come a' knockin' for the difference. I learned the hard way.

Brad


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2020, 08:41:58 AM
Careful... it's not a subsidy. It's a credit. Big difference.

Essentially it's just putting part of your premium on layaway against a presumed end-of-year tax "refund" will cover the deferred amount. If the tax overpayment isn't enough to cover the credit, they come a' knockin' for the difference. I learned the hard way.

Brad

No, I realize that.  I actually (go ahead and hate me fellas) did it this year, but have cash aside in case things don't work out and they come a knockin'.

I'm just figuring  I paid for me and somebody else for the last four years, so unless something changes for the better, I'm now recovering some of that money, at least if I can keep my income in the zone. I just got sick of paying nearly ten grand a year for a physical and blood work.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 10, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
Agreed. She seems to be interested in funding a socialist/communist revolution within the Democratic party. I hope the Ds keep that in mind when Ms. AOC proposes bills that are important to her and her constituents.

Revolution often implies a change of direction. I think she's trying to accelerate what the dem party has already been gradually evolving into already over the past few decades.      


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 10, 2020, 09:42:04 AM
I for one applaud Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's principled stand on not giving money to the DCCC and I hope other Congressional Democrats follow her example.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on January 10, 2020, 10:30:05 AM
I for one applaud Ms. Ocasio-Cortez's principled stand on not giving money to the DCCC and I hope other Congressional Democrats follow her example.


So, that means you support her principled stand on creating a government that is socialist or even Communist.

Thanks for the clarification.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 12, 2020, 05:32:17 AM
The "economist" says that the Dow going up is "inequality in a nutshell". What will she say when the Dow drops 5K points? Will she set up food stations for everyone losing money?

Also, as a gov employee, she is in the equities market via the TSP.


https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/01/11/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-sees-the-soaring-dow-as-inequality-in-a-nutshell/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RocketMan on January 12, 2020, 08:43:53 AM
If AOC says it, it must be true.  Right?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 12, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Wait till she finds out places charge more for an extra large drink than they do for a small.

And to think she majored in economics


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 12, 2020, 09:18:39 AM
Wait till she finds out places charge more for an extra large drink than they do for a small.

And to think she majored in economics

Except McDonald's. Small, medium and large are all $1 at Mickey D's. Somehow, that must be evidence of inequality, too, but I haven't figured out quite how to spin it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 12, 2020, 09:23:46 AM
Except McDonald's. Small, medium and large are all $1 at Mickey D's. Somehow, that must be evidence of inequality, too, but I haven't figured out quite how to spin it.

Do they? Haven't walked into a McDs in ages but I do go through the drive through from time to time but always just order the sandwich and never pay attention to the drinks and thus never their prices.
But you're right, she would find a way to spin it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: French G. on January 12, 2020, 09:34:32 AM
Yes, and it is economic brilliance. First, more people come because the drinks are cheap. Then you can let people grab their own cup instead of losing the employee time of handing them one, or in the case of kiosks, what employee? Only thing I would change is if you are going to have different size cups make the lids all the same size to reduce supply chain and waste from people that can't read grabbing or stocking the wrong lid.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Boomhauer on January 12, 2020, 09:54:27 AM
These stupid *expletive deleted*s want Venezula so bad they can taste it.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 12, 2020, 10:07:31 AM
Also, her "wage logic" is ridiculous. If you apply it completely, then guess what, if somebody is making $30/hr and their company drops in value by half, then the company gets to pay them $15/hr.

Everybody wants to ride the, "But the company made $10 million dollars last year! Pay me more!" train, but they won't get on the, "The company is $10 million in the red this year, I'd better take a salary reduction to help them out" train.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 20, 2020, 07:06:10 PM
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/01/20/aoc-democrats-are-center-conservative-and-believe-you-can-capitalism-your-way-out-of-poverty/
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    AOC: “The Democratic Party is not a left party. The Democratic Party is a center, or a center-conservative party” pic.twitter.com/6TNAC50nXi

    — Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) January 20, 2020

wow

Quote
    I honestly can’t tell if she’s been brainwashed or just has the mental capacity of a stapler

    — The Cheese (@thecheesefeed) January 20, 2020
:rofl:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 20, 2020, 07:57:57 PM
Now that is one ham-handed attempt to move the Overton wind'r.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 21, 2020, 08:05:45 AM
Man,  I guess she is feeling unloved for bigger things in the media ignoring her over the past few weeks. This is the third very stupid and very revealing thing she has said in the last 24 hours:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/21/the-truth-comes-out-aoc-accidentally-exposes-the-socialist-lefts-agenda-declaring-that-i-dont-want-your-money-as-much-as-we-want-your-power-video/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 21, 2020, 10:27:18 AM
Man,  I guess she is feeling unloved for bigger things in the media ignoring her over the past few weeks. This is the third very stupid and very revealing thing she has said in the last 24 hours:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/21/the-truth-comes-out-aoc-accidentally-exposes-the-socialist-lefts-agenda-declaring-that-i-dont-want-your-money-as-much-as-we-want-your-power-video/

The 3rd that we know of...

Hey, Alex, why not give me some of your power? Why should you have so many followers and so much influence? It ain't fair!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 21, 2020, 10:33:04 AM
She's got a mouth on her.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/aoc-demonizes-business-owners-theyre-lazy-slave-owners-employees-literally-dying


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on January 21, 2020, 11:56:10 AM
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“Well, you didn’t make those widgets, did you?” Ocasio-Cortez began. “Because you employed thousands of people and paid them less than a living wage to make those widgets for you. You didn’t make those widgets.”

“You sat on a couch while thousands of people were paid modern day slave wages, and in some cases real slave, real modern-day slavery, uh, depending on where you are in terms of food production,” Ocasio-Cortez claimed. “You made that money off the backs of undocumented people. You made that money off the backs of black and brown people being paid under a living wage.”
She didn't mention Chinese or Asian unless she was lumping them in with "brown".  

Why are those wages "less than a living wage"?  Would that be because of the onerous taxes and regulations that Ocasio-Cortez also supports?  Or the high cost of Govt regulated health care?  She is from New York so I include her fellow democrats there as well as in the federal govt.  

I don't know many successful business owners.  I don't remember hearing of a lazy one who was successful unless they sold it off.  I wonder if her experience (if it is real) is with the hired CEO's rather than actual owners.  Y'all might have come across more of those people than I have.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on January 21, 2020, 09:26:16 PM
I think a prima facie argument could be made that unless there are vast hordes of zombie factory workers that I am unaware of, those wages are indeed "living wages".   =D


I would like to hear her explanation on why the wages aren't "living" wages in the socialist economies of places like China, where much of these widgets are being made.  Are they not enforcing most of her ideas?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 21, 2020, 09:28:14 PM
Clearly, the Chi-coms are not socialisming hard enough.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 21, 2020, 09:59:11 PM
She's got a mouth on her.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/aoc-demonizes-business-owners-theyre-lazy-slave-owners-employees-literally-dying

When I was a "yoot," there was a joke going around that should apply to AOC. Something about being sure the brain is engaged before putting the mouth in gear.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 22, 2020, 07:03:17 AM
When I was a "yoot," there was a joke going around that should apply to AOC. Something about being sure the brain is engaged before putting the mouth in gear.

To do that, you must first have a brain.

Brad


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on January 22, 2020, 07:57:30 AM
To do that, you must first have a brain.

Brad
I think some people are just missing the whole gear box.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2020, 05:58:20 AM
She is seriously on a lunatic roll this week. Now she's crying about the evil US attacking "the most vulnerable" pregnant women. It's called "birth tourism" and it's practiced by the 1% elite of the world at the expense of US taxpayers. Funny how for this pregnant women are vulnerable, but for her other stance, they are temporary holding vessels for body parts harvesting.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/01/23/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-comes-out-in-favor-of-spins-wheel-birth-tourism/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2020, 06:14:32 AM
She's upset Schiff and the impeachment is getting more attention in the media than she is. She is acting just like a spoiled 2yr old who is jealous someone else is getting more attention.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: BobR on January 23, 2020, 08:15:49 AM
She is on the Bernie train, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-campaign-bernie-sanders-iowa , I wonder how that will play in corn-fed Iowa.


bob


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on January 23, 2020, 08:43:08 AM
She is on the Bernie train, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-campaign-bernie-sanders-iowa , I wonder how that will play in corn-fed Iowa.


bob

If you don't like it they'll just send you to the gulags for a vacation.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 23, 2020, 11:21:57 AM
She is seriously on a lunatic roll this week. Now she's crying about the evil US attacking "the most vulnerable" pregnant women. It's called "birth tourism" and it's practiced by the 1% elite of the world at the expense of US taxpayers. Funny how for this pregnant women are vulnerable, but for her other stance, they are temporary holding vessels for body parts harvesting.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/01/23/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-comes-out-in-favor-of-spins-wheel-birth-tourism/

There's no inconsistency.

I don't know why conservatives keep being surprised by this, but under U.S. law,  you're only a human being if your mother decides you are. It's bizarre, but it's just an absurdity of "choice."


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on January 23, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
"She is acting just like a spoiled 2yr old who is jealous someone else is getting more attention."

Yeah... it's not an act.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on January 23, 2020, 01:00:53 PM
If you don't like it they'll just send you to the gulags for a vacation.

I thought Iowa was a gulag.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2020, 01:06:44 PM
I thought Iowa was a gulag.

For an east or west coast liberal it is.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 23, 2020, 03:36:29 PM
For an east or west coast liberal it is.

 :laugh:  Yeah, we don't have to gulag our Blue Coast lefty friends; just transfer them to good jobs in middle-American suburbia. The horror...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: HankB on January 23, 2020, 04:35:50 PM
:laugh:  Yeah, we don't have to gulag our Blue Coast lefty friends; just transfer them to good jobs in middle-American suburbia. The horror...
Whoa - clinging deplorables for neighbors, and . . . jobs?! As in . . . being expected to do actual work?!?!

The horror!   :O


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on January 23, 2020, 08:37:23 PM
Whoa - clinging deplorables for neighbors, and . . . jobs?! As in . . . being expected to do actual work?!?!

The horror!   :O

No, I really mean a good job in their field. Put them in a comfortable situation, but in [shudder] Cleveland or Albuquerque.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 23, 2020, 10:42:04 PM
No, I really mean a good job in their field. Put them in a comfortable situation, but in [shudder] Cleveland or Albuquerque.

In other words, a place where they might be more than a block from a Starbuck's.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 06, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
Now she's running her mouth off that Trump handing out envelopes of cash to blacks to be at his rallies

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    “Allies of Trump have begun holding events in black communities where organizers lavish praise on Trump as they hand out 10s of 1000s of dollars to lucky attendees.”

    GOP will hop on me over the legal definition of a rally to distract from this garbage. They’re so predictable. 🙄

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 5, 2020
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/02/06/yaaas-charles-payne-drops-aoc-in-back-and-forth-after-she-claims-trump-is-paying-black-americans-at-his-rallies/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 06, 2020, 11:34:34 AM
Now she's running her mouth off that Trump handing out envelopes of cash to blacks to be at his rallies
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/02/06/yaaas-charles-payne-drops-aoc-in-back-and-forth-after-she-claims-trump-is-paying-black-americans-at-his-rallies/


Pardon me while I grab a can of shoe polish, and head to the nearest Trump rally.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Mike Irwin on February 06, 2020, 12:02:56 PM

Pardon me while I grab a can of shoe polish, and head to the nearest Trump rally.

Governor Northam? Is that you?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on February 06, 2020, 12:38:15 PM
Is she complaining that he's not doing it right since Democrats give away billions at rallies?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ron on February 06, 2020, 02:56:03 PM
Cash instead of cell phones?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 06, 2020, 02:59:55 PM
Giving away donated money instead of taxpayer money?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 06, 2020, 04:02:41 PM
Giving away donated money instead of taxpayer money?


It's Obama's stash.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 07, 2020, 05:16:53 AM
Quote
AOC: “It’s a physical impossibility to lift yourself up by a bootstrap, by your shoelaces? It’s physically impossible. The whole thing is a joke."
video https://twitter.com/hashtag/AOCStillAMoron?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 :rofl:

BTW: James Woods is back


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 07, 2020, 05:59:59 AM
video https://twitter.com/hashtag/AOCStillAMoron?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 :rofl:

BTW: James Woods is back

Says the chick who went from waitressing to congress...


I have learned a ton browsing reddit over the last few months, though.  The vitriol over the "bootstraps" phrase is real.  Leftists hate it, because it was historically a phrase that did mean to do something impossible.  Somehow it got co-opted to mean dig yourself out of poverty, but in reality it is an impossible action to perform.  So telling a leftist to dig themselves out of poverty by their bootstraps is triggering now...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 07, 2020, 06:20:50 AM
A radio guy this morning commented that AOC has never found herself stuck in sticky mud in Louisiana.  To paraphrase:  You have to use the boot straps to pull your leg up out of the mud so you can step forward.  Essentially you are pulling yourself up by your bootstraps rather than stand there waiting for someone to come help you.

I have no idea what the origin of the phrase is, but to me it always meant to get to work and move up through your own efforts.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2020, 06:31:49 AM
A radio guy this morning commented that AOC has never found herself stuck in sticky mud in Louisiana.  To paraphrase:  You have to use the boot straps to pull your leg up out of the mud so you can step forward.  Essentially you are pulling yourself up by your bootstraps rather than stand there waiting for someone to come help you.

I have no idea what the origin of the phrase is, but to me it always meant to get to work and move up through your own efforts.

That actually makes a lot of sense for origin. I bet there are other "bootstrap" stories for similar predicaments that mean the same thing - you did it yourself.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 07, 2020, 06:38:06 AM
A radio guy this morning commented that AOC has never found herself stuck in sticky mud in Louisiana.  To paraphrase:  You have to use the boot straps to pull your leg up out of the mud so you can step forward.  Essentially you are pulling yourself up by your bootstraps rather than stand there waiting for someone to come help you.

I have no idea what the origin of the phrase is, but to me it always meant to get to work and move up through your own efforts.

This is what they're going on
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_oneself_up_by_one%27s_bootstraps
Leftists have decided that it's impossible to not be poor, so they  the phrase is an insult because you're telling a poor person to do something impossible.

I'm telling you reddit has been eye opening.  The amount of activity in clearly communist sub reddits is frightening.  And the huge undercurrent of entitlement and socialism in there...


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2020, 07:02:18 AM


I'm telling you reddit has been eye opening.  The amount of activity in clearly communist sub reddits is frightening.  And the huge undercurrent of entitlement and socialism in there...

The scary part is the people who truly, truly, truly believe it, versus the ones that do the "socialism is cool" peer pressure stuff - kinda like wearing your Che shirt.

We had a link here not to long ago about some woman needing a place to stay that had to be free, in fact I think you had to give her pot and money or something, and a whole lot of other demands she had, and some were wondering if it was parody, but I think it is all too real. There is some subset of people that actually, truly believe that it's their right to have free stuff that must be provided to them, and it's like the people that would be forced to provide it don't exist.

I  truly hope that it is a very small segment of our population, but some days I wonder.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 07, 2020, 07:39:14 AM
The scary part is the people who truly, truly, truly believe it, versus the ones that do the "socialism is cool" peer pressure stuff - kinda like wearing your Che shirt.

We had a link here not to long ago about some woman needing a place to stay that had to be free, in fact I think you had to give her pot and money or something, and a whole lot of other demands she had, and some were wondering if it was parody, but I think it is all too real. There is some subset of people that actually, truly believe that it's their right to have free stuff that must be provided to them, and it's like the people that would be forced to provide it don't exist.

I  truly hope that it is a very small segment of our population, but some days I wonder.
It is hard to judge online comments.  You always have to remember that some of them may not even be real people and often people are very young. 


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: MechAg94 on February 07, 2020, 07:43:19 AM
This thread makes me think this should be real.

https://politics.theonion.com/study-finds-controlled-washington-d-c-wildfires-cruci-1819578392/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Study Finds Controlled Washington, D.C. Wildfires Crucial For Restoring Healthy Political Environment

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WASHINGTON—Calling the process essential to preventing overgrowth and promoting renewal, a study released Tuesday by researchers at American University found that regular, controlled Washington, D.C. wildfires are crucial to the restoration of a healthy political environment.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--H7HjECfM--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/cagaemyzlqk2trvarquw.jpg)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on February 07, 2020, 07:52:26 AM
Beautiful picture, that^^^^
 [tinfoil]


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 07, 2020, 08:58:15 AM
Says the chick who went from waitressing bartending to congress...


FIFY


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on February 07, 2020, 11:36:26 AM
That's why she isn't a lawyer- she couldn't pass the bar.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: TommyGunn on February 07, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
That's why she isn't a lawyer- she couldn't pass the bar.
:rofl:    I used to call that type of a joke a "zinger."  [popcorn]


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 08, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
Giving a lecture showing off her expertise on Milton Keynes and his economic theories. I love Carol Roth.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/08/carol-roth-trolls-economics-major-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-who-was-just-reading-about-famed-economist-milton-keynes/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: makattak on February 08, 2020, 06:18:10 PM
Giving a lecture showing off her expertise on Milton Keynes and his economic theories. I love Carol Roth.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/08/carol-roth-trolls-economics-major-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-who-was-just-reading-about-famed-economist-milton-keynes/

She supposedly has an economics degree. From Boston University.

Great reflection on you, BU.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Fly320s on February 08, 2020, 06:31:52 PM
I can't stand her voice.  It is too similar to Fran Drescher's.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 08, 2020, 06:32:22 PM
She supposedly has an economics degree. From Boston University.

Great reflection on you, BU.

She learned exactly what they wanted her to learn.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 22, 2020, 03:09:21 PM
The chick in $500 shoes want to ask congressmen how much their tailored suits cost. GOP congressmen only of course.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/22/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wants-to-wait-outside-the-gop-cloakroom-and-ask-congressmen-how-much-their-suits-cost/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 22, 2020, 04:38:22 PM
The chick in $500 shoes want to ask congressmen how much their tailored suits cost. GOP congressmen only of course.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/22/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wants-to-wait-outside-the-gop-cloakroom-and-ask-congressmen-how-much-their-suits-cost/

 :laugh: Great fan service for her base, I guess.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: adively on February 25, 2020, 09:47:38 AM
Democrats may try to eliminate Ocasio-Cortez’s House seat, paper says (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-may-try-to-eliminate-ocasio-cortezs-house-seat-paper-says)

Way to go...piss off the person with the pen that draws the district lines.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 25, 2020, 10:13:48 AM
Democrats may try to eliminate Ocasio-Cortez’s House seat, paper says (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-may-try-to-eliminate-ocasio-cortezs-house-seat-paper-says)

Way to go...piss off the person with the pen that draws the district lines.

That would be delicious irony.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 25, 2020, 10:33:10 AM
I'm sure it will get twisted into being King Trump's doing


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on February 25, 2020, 10:35:13 AM
I'm sure it will get twisted into being King Trump's doing

Do we even care? They could make it Hillary Clinton's doing and I would be cool with it. :)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: bedlamite on February 25, 2020, 10:37:23 AM
I'm sure it will get twisted into being King Trump's doing

I'd be disappointed if it wasn't. The more crazy off the wall stuff they blame on him the better. He's used to it and doesn't care, and teh more they do it, the more people open their eyes to the lunacy.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on February 25, 2020, 10:41:09 AM
Do we even care? They could make it Hillary Clinton's doing and I would be cool with it. :)

I find it somewhat amusing, and disturbing at the same time, seeing what flaming hoops they have to twist their "logic" through in doing so.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 28, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
AOC attacked V.P. Mike Pence on "science." Ted Cruz tried to pin her down about what she knows (or doesn't know) about science. She responded by ducking the questions and posting her resume. Cruz is not deterred.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/02/28/i-await-your-engagement-on-the-actual-substance-ted-cruz-wont-accept-aocs-insults-and-extensive-resume-as-answers-to-these-science-questions/

Question: How does a dual major in economics and international relations qualify her as an expert in science?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on February 28, 2020, 05:15:19 PM
AOC attacked V.P. Mike Pence on "science." Ted Cruz tried to pin her down about what she knows (or doesn't know) about science. She responded by ducking the questions and posting her resume. Cruz is not deterred.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/02/28/i-await-your-engagement-on-the-actual-substance-ted-cruz-wont-accept-aocs-insults-and-extensive-resume-as-answers-to-these-science-questions/

Question: How does a dual major in economics and international relations qualify her as an expert in science?


I love the "congratulations on the science fair" at the end.  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 07, 2020, 11:09:11 AM
Imagine my shock  ;/

Quote
Everyone saw this coming. Democrats fought tooth and nail to keep census forms from inquiring about an individual's citizenship status. They won, so now people like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) are urging illegal aliens to fill out census forms so Democrats like herself can keep their bogus congressional districts.
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On NBC's "Late Night With Seth Meyers" on Thursday, AOC said it was important for everyone in America, including illegal aliens, to fill out census forms for the purpose of congressional representation and funding for federal programs.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/03/06/aoc-wants-illegal-immigrants-filling-out-census-forms-now-that-citizenship-quest-n2563633


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 07, 2020, 02:03:23 PM
Imagine my shock  ;/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/03/06/aoc-wants-illegal-immigrants-filling-out-census-forms-now-that-citizenship-quest-n2563633

Now, who could have predicted that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Y25FT7DxE


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on March 19, 2020, 04:51:24 AM
 :rofl:

It appears AOC is having a dog crap self-isolation with her new puppy and a robot vacuum
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/03/19/it-appears-aoc-is-having-a-dog-crap-self-isolation-with-her-new-puppy-and-a-robot-vacuum/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 19, 2020, 05:00:31 AM
:rofl:

It appears AOC is having a dog crap self-isolation with her new puppy and a robot vacuum
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/03/19/it-appears-aoc-is-having-a-dog-crap-self-isolation-with-her-new-puppy-and-a-robot-vacuum/

IDGAF who it is...that's just funny!


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: RocketMan on March 19, 2020, 10:17:27 AM
:rofl:

It appears AOC is having a dog crap self-isolation with her new puppy and a robot vacuum
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/03/19/it-appears-aoc-is-having-a-dog-crap-self-isolation-with-her-new-puppy-and-a-robot-vacuum/

I can kind of sympathize with AOC on this one.  It's happened twice to us.  Roombas are a bitch to clean after they've run over dog crap.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on April 22, 2020, 04:35:02 PM
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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) called for a national work boycott, saying when businesses re-open people should refuse to go back to work. Watch here: https://t.co/kbHUeoItje

    — Henry Rodgers (@henryrodgersdc) April 22, 2020
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    "When we talk about this idea of ‘reopening society’ you know, only in America- does the President, when the President tweets about liberation, does he mean go back to work. When we have this discussion about going back or reopening, I think a lot people should just say 'no'"…

    — Henry Rodgers (@henryrodgersdc) April 22, 2020
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/04/22/finger-on-the-pulse-aoc-says-a-lot-of-people-should-refuse-to-go-back-to-work-when-businesses-re-open/

(https://miro.medium.com/max/740/1*JrYQdFhYxuHIPbZNtBhbvQ.gif)


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on April 22, 2020, 07:02:01 PM
She no doubt takes comfort in how many people will have no jobs to return to.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 22, 2020, 07:14:20 PM
A Congresscritter talks about boycotting work . . .


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: 230RN on April 22, 2020, 09:17:03 PM
She no doubt takes comfort in how many people will have no jobs to return to.

Communism thrives on storm and stress.  Any kind they can create or hope for.  It doesn't matter if the manufactured stress makes sense or not.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on April 23, 2020, 04:52:42 AM
This thread makes me think this should be real.

https://politics.theonion.com/study-finds-controlled-washington-d-c-wildfires-cruci-1819578392/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Study Finds Controlled Washington, D.C. Wildfires Crucial For Restoring Healthy Political Environment

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--H7HjECfM--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/cagaemyzlqk2trvarquw.jpg)

Cracks me up they published that in 2015. They sure got their wildfire!  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on May 14, 2020, 01:23:21 PM
So new tack - the green new deal is actually legislation that costs zero dollars to implement. Which I guess means we don't have to tax those pesky billionaires more.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/05/14/most-disingenuous-tweet-ever-aocs-attempt-to-own-jonah-goldberg-over-billionaires-and-the-green-new-deal-blows-up-in-her-smug-face/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on May 14, 2020, 02:43:38 PM
So new tack - the green new deal is actually legislation that costs zero dollars to implement. Which I guess means we don't have to tax those pesky billionaires more.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/05/14/most-disingenuous-tweet-ever-aocs-attempt-to-own-jonah-goldberg-over-billionaires-and-the-green-new-deal-blows-up-in-her-smug-face/

From the link

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    If only there were some public fund billionaires could pay into along with everyone else that helps fund our infrastructure, hospitals, and public systems all at once.

    It could even be a modest % of what they earn every year. We could have an agency collect it and everything https://t.co/g0vI45xnYG

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 13, 2020

Like the NKVD?


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 18, 2020, 10:39:22 AM
So she's complaining that "Wall Street" is throwing millions into unseating her, yet I just read that she has over $5 million in her campaign chest. That's a lot of dough for a commie. How many "women of color" could she help with that money?

I'm actually curious as to what her defense is for that much campaign cash when it's exactly what she rakes other politicians over the coals for.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/06/18/aoc-accidentally-suppresses-her-own-vote-after-sending-supporters-to-the-wrong-website/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: JN01 on June 18, 2020, 12:33:08 PM


I'm actually curious as to what her defense is for that much campaign cash when it's exactly what she rakes other politicians over the coals for.


Do as I say, not as I do.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: dogmush on June 18, 2020, 01:22:41 PM
So she's complaining that "Wall Street" is throwing millions into unseating her, yet I just read that she has over $5 million in her campaign chest. That's a lot of dough for a commie. How many "women of color" could she help with that money?

I'm actually curious as to what her defense is for that much campaign cash when it's exactly what she rakes other politicians over the coals for.


Easy. That charge is barely an inconvenience.

Ahem

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I can do the most good for women of color and under served minorities by remaining here in Congress.  The radical right, racist groups, and Wall Street see that my kind of legislation is a clear threat to their stranglehold on the economy and have funneled millions into unseating me in the primary. Thankfully,  due to donations from like minded people and other organizations committed to righting the historic racial wrongs of this country have enough money to fight off the Right's attacks

Or something like that.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 18, 2020, 02:35:10 PM
Easy. That charge is barely an inconvenience.

Ahem

Or something like that.

Ya got me there. All it takes is a willing and gullible audience.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: WLJ on June 22, 2020, 02:12:58 PM
There are times when I don't know whether to laugh or cry

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   .@AOC: “Latinos are black … We have to have conversations around ‘colorism,’ and we have to have conversations around the African and indigenous roots from which we come and how that’s reflected in systems of power.” pic.twitter.com/ki1lDDNhKS

    — Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) June 22, 2020
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   That's news to George Zimmerman.

    — Aldous Huxley's Ghost™ (@AF632) June 22, 2020
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    So Zimmerman vs Trayvon Martin was black on black violence all these while & I’m just finding out?

    — fda365 (@fda365) June 22, 2020
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/06/22/oh-no-she-did-not-aoc-claiming-latinos-are-black-while-babbling-about-needing-to-talk-about-colorism-goes-so-wrong-watch/


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Ben on June 22, 2020, 02:19:11 PM
There are times when I don't know whether to laugh or cry
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/06/22/oh-no-she-did-not-aoc-claiming-latinos-are-black-while-babbling-about-needing-to-talk-about-colorism-goes-so-wrong-watch/

Better to just laugh until her ilk are voted out and forgotten.

And keep your gun loaded with a dozen magazines ready in case they are not and for when they finally cross the line. At some point this is gonna get to "open season on white men." Luckily, we are the most dangerous game.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 22, 2020, 05:45:49 PM
Quote from: AOC
“Latinos are black … We have to have conversations around ‘colorism,’ and we have to have conversations around the African and indigenous roots from which we come and how that’s reflected in systems of power.”

Wow. If my wife were alive today she would go ballistic over this idiocy.


Title: Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
Post by: fistful on June 22, 2020, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: AOC
“Latinos are black … We have to have conversations around ‘colorism,’ and we have to have conversations around the African and indigenous roots from which we come and how that’s reflected in systems of power.

In other words, antifa fascists need to burn down more minority neighborhoods, and topple more statues. Got it.


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