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Title: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: HeroHog on February 03, 2019, 02:06:19 PM
One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access to its records  [tinfoil]
https://www.theblaze.com/news/at-home-dna-company-fbi
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Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: WLJ on February 03, 2019, 02:29:04 PM
All your DNA are belong to us.
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: HankB on February 03, 2019, 03:04:56 PM
Gee, who could've seen that coming . . .

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: WLJ on February 03, 2019, 03:13:41 PM
Oh wait, the story is coming from BuzzFeed, they could say the sky is blue and I would question it.
Could be, or not, an attempt at another "SEE WHAT ORANGE MAN IS DOING?!"

And I'm getting a 404 on the Buzzfeed link
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: HeroHog on February 03, 2019, 03:22:06 PM
Ok, someone must have caught them in yet another lie...
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: Unisaw on February 03, 2019, 05:41:52 PM
The story is still on Buzzfeed’s website:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/family-tree-dna-fbi-investigative-genealogy-privacy
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: WLJ on February 03, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
There it is. Article still has a bad link.
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: lee n. field on February 03, 2019, 06:16:53 PM
They don't even need to get your DNA sampled.  You can be all paranoid libertarian privacy wonk, and your ditzy relative with the nipple tats does her 23-and-me ("What 3rd World Dunghill Country Are You From?"), and they get close enough.
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: French G. on February 03, 2019, 08:42:39 PM
Yeah, I will probably still do 23 and me. Military has my DNA, some they lost too. If a cop wants your DNA, they will get it, even if they have to steal your trash. Be sure to leave DNA not yours at the crime scene. :D
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 03, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Thankfully, I can't see any way this could possibly be abused. ;/
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: 230RN on February 03, 2019, 08:47:17 PM
Gee, who could've seen that coming . . .

 :facepalm:

Yeah, quality and veracity of the news source notwithstanding, it would be a reasonable assumption up front anyhow.

Maybe the FBI is just accessing their public records like you or I would, but the news slimeballs are calling it "providing" the data to the FBI.  EEEK!

Terry
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: Grebnaws on February 06, 2019, 10:08:38 PM
It's too bad our most extensive family tree is uploaded to FTdna. Other sites have been used by law enforcement in the past but apparently not with the same glee as FTdna. I agree that it's merely the next logical step in law enforcement and get regular updates from other DNA websites I've used regarding their privacy policy. The cat is out of the bag but most others are at least paying lip service to privacy. It's unfortunate that we have attempted to use these private businesses for personal reasons, medical reasons, entertainment (ethnicity estimates), and occasionally for private matters that require discretion, just to have The Law butt in. Users beware.

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Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: 230RN on February 07, 2019, 01:09:30 AM
^ "entertainment (ethnicity estimates),"

Funny, considering recent claims by a prominent party as to his/her/its Indian roots.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: K Frame on February 07, 2019, 08:35:29 AM
This is my shocked face that people didn't see this coming...

 ;/
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: 230RN on February 07, 2019, 08:45:46 AM
A buddy of mine got arrested for something a couple of years ago and said they swabbed the inside of his cheeks.  He said he asked about it and they said it was a test for TB.  But he thought that was the way they got DNA testing samples, as described in the Olympic games testing for gender which was in the news.

I told him I didn't know what was going on, kind of forgot about it until the recent advertisements for DNA "Roots" testing described the same process for getting  your own DNA sample.  This thread brought the question up in my mind again.

So, is that indeed a method of testing for TB?  Or were they just lying to him in order to sneakily capture a DNA sample?

Terry
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: MillCreek on February 07, 2019, 10:09:09 AM
^^^In recent years, oral swabs have been developed that can test for pulmonary TB in adults. I can see how correctional facilities would be fans of testing incoming clients for TB.
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: 230RN on February 09, 2019, 02:51:53 AM
OK, thanks again, MillCreek.

Info passed on.
Title: Re: One of the largest at-home DNA testing companies is giving the FBI access
Post by: gunsmith on February 09, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
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Authorities have said the DNA tied former police officer Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, to most of the 12 killings he is accused of committing between 1976 and 1986 as part of the Golden State Killer case.

Investigators also allege DeAngelo raped more than 50 women during that period.

 in the GSK case ( golden state killer ) iirc the cops had his DNA from a few of his many crimes, and simply sent it to "ancestry dnaDOTcom" or some such site, anonymously and discovered that he had relatives who had submitted DNA in search all the stuff the ads mention like your real ancestry.
These sites also tell people about relatives who have submitted DNA.
So, they got enough info from all the investigations  and DNA to crack the case.
 
This was one of my objections to obamacare, a .gov website database with DNA is a recipe for eugenics genocide.
Unfortunately, we all have naive relatives no matter how well we guard our DNA being entered into databases.

  In the case of GSK, that was hilarious... He almost got away with it - when he was a cop he resigned after being caught stealing rope and duct tape, and was soon forgotten about ... if he had been convicted and fired and there was a record, somebody might have gotten a clue that rope and tape is also a rape kit.

I can't recall who, but another serial killer was also caught the same way.

 I think the cat is out of the bag with DNA - your idiot relative has already submitted theirs