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Title: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on March 19, 2019, 06:55:58 PM
https://komonews.com/news/local/komo-news-special-seattle-is-dying?fbclid=IwAR0hD4fxAjdbY0epXBF15rg83M0cOXlOhf66F-QvKcc9ebYph20GY-8a50M

I stopped working in downtown Seattle in 2004 and went back downtown in 2018.  Back in the early 2000's, you saw homeless people, but the majority of them were floridly mentally ill and there were virtually no encampments.  Now, 14 years later, you see encampments with huge numbers of homeless people and a substantial percentage of them are addicted to opiates.  Piles of feces and discarded syringes litter the streets. I see this every day as I walk from the transit center to my office. 
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: BobR on March 19, 2019, 07:00:44 PM
Today's lesson is brought to you by the letter "S" as in Shithole, Seattle and San Francisco. Nothing new in the realm of large west coast cities where it doesn't get cold enough in the winter to drive the homeless south. We are even starting to see an larger homeless population doing many of the same things in our little town of Spokane.

bob
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 19, 2019, 07:08:40 PM
Today's lesson is brought to you by the letter "S" as in Shithole, Seattle and San Francisco.

San Francisco, over a year ago:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGpEkS8XNxE
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on March 19, 2019, 08:10:04 PM
I am a big believer in personal autonomy, and I think forced intervention should be a very last resort.  I believe people have the right to make poor choices that I would not make.  Yet when I see people tortured by mental illness or addiction screaming in the street, and knowing they have a very high rate of death due to exposure, illness, or assault, are we failing them as a society by leaving them be?
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: cordex on March 19, 2019, 08:36:17 PM
I am a big believer in personal autonomy, and I think forced intervention should be a very last resort.  I believe people have the right to make poor choices that I would not make.  Yet when I see people tortured by mental illness or addiction screaming in the street, and knowing they have a very high rate of death due to exposure, illness, or assault, are we failing them as a society by leaving them be?
I used to know all the answers but it seems I've forgotten some.

There are some people with too little intelligence, who lack sufficient impulse control, or who are too mentally ill to be capable of surviving on their own.  I don't know that anyone has ever come up with a solution I like. 
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MechAg94 on March 19, 2019, 10:13:29 PM
Are they really leaving them be?  Seems to me they are getting all sorts of help in maintaining their homeless "life".  Someone is supplying food and needles.  They are getting drugs somewhere.  The city is allowing them to stay and ignoring the drug use.  Actually leaving them alone completely might be an improvement.  At least it would force a change.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: K Frame on March 20, 2019, 07:03:34 AM
I take great umbrage with that story.

Seattle isn't dying.

Seattle is being MURDERED.

Murdered by liberal antipathy, ludicrous policies, inaction, socialist mantras, and continuation of policies that have a long track record of abject failure.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ron on March 20, 2019, 07:55:56 AM
Spent 4 days at my corporate headquarters and got the chance to explore the city a little bit.

Pretty easy to get around, nice touristy stuff to visit.

Yea, a lot of what used to be called bums along with the smell of urine surprisingly frequently.

It’s a shame, the liberal city policies actually encourage the behavior they claim to be addressing.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MechAg94 on March 20, 2019, 09:01:00 AM
I visited Seattle once some years back.  The day we flew in was clear and sunny.  The city was beautiful.  The next 3 days it was foggy, overcast, and drizzling rain off and on.  There was still a lot of do around the downtown water front area.  We did not go around the city too much.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 20, 2019, 09:36:49 AM
1983 was the last time I was in Seattle. I drank a lot of beer that weekend. Don't remember much about it.  =D :old:
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on March 20, 2019, 10:03:05 AM
Mayor Fischer looked at Seattle and San Francisco, he even stated he wanted to copy the San Fran model, and decided since it's working so well for them that Louisville needs to be a homeless sanctuary. Homeless everywhere now. His solution to that? More bike lanes that nobody uses. POS needs to go.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Andiron on March 20, 2019, 08:36:58 PM
The .gov managed tanks and cav to chase off starving Vets in 1932 but can't see off this trash?  Next thing you're going to tell me is they don't actually police the borders anymore..
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 21, 2019, 12:08:30 AM
Next thing you're going to tell me is they don't actually police the borders anymore..


Anymore?
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on March 22, 2019, 11:18:08 AM
A related followup article: https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-homeless-crisis-historic-cemetery-overrun-with-drugs-and-prostitution-amid-worsening-problem
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 15, 2020, 09:55:37 AM
And now here comes the sequel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw

My wife and I watched it last night. I thought it was a 90 minute commercial to carry a gun if you live or work in downtown Seattle.  I saw a lot of this stuff as I was walking 0.5 miles from the train station downtown to my office at 0615.  I am so glad I no longer work in downtown Seattle.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 10:00:43 AM
I once again say that this is sad, having had some good times traveling to Seattle for work 10-20 years ago.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ron on December 15, 2020, 10:40:44 AM
It's a shame the leftists aren't forced to stay in the city and enjoy the fruit of their ideology.

Instead they are looking at property next door to Ben.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: RocketMan on December 15, 2020, 10:43:38 AM
It's a shame the leftists aren't forced to stay in the city and enjoy the fruit of their ideology.

Instead they are looking at property next door to Ben.

Leftists have an irresistible urge to share their filth with others.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MechAg94 on December 15, 2020, 10:48:50 AM
"Three officers came by shortly after the last big break-in and said "Under the policies that we have to work with now, we can't protect your store."
The homeless problem is just a symptom of a lot of other bad policies and bad decisions going on.  

Considering that prosecutors and judges in a lot of major cities have been getting even more lenient on criminals in the last year, I think Seattle won't be the only city with problems.  I have heard the Austin, TX homeless problem has been getting worse and worse.  I never go there, just what I hear.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ron on December 15, 2020, 10:58:27 AM
Seattle was nice when I visited several years ago.

In some respects though it reminded me of downtown Chicago back in the 80's.

A lot of sketchy guys wandering around and every ally you passed by stunk like urine.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 15, 2020, 11:01:06 AM
^^^What is downtown Chicago like now?  Better, worse or the same?
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ron on December 15, 2020, 11:09:23 AM
^^^What is downtown Chicago like now?  Better, worse or the same?
I haven't spent any time down there in the last ten years or so, despite it only being less than 15 miles away.

In the 90's early 2000's things had really been cleaned up.

Still occasional stinky alleys but the whole place was cleaner, the feeling of dingy decline wasn't there any more.

Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 11:16:09 AM
Instead they are looking at property next door to Ben.

Believe me, we're on alert. I'm already scared that I now need to move to BFE Wyoming. Boise really, really wants to be Portland Jr, and if enough commie pinko people continue to move there (many, many from Portland), they will succeed. We might be able to hold out as majority conservative for the years I have left on Earth, we may not. Eternal Vigilance.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 15, 2020, 11:48:29 AM
^^^Ben, it is time to move to the Dutton ranch and take the brand.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
^^^Ben, it is time to move to the Dutton ranch and take the brand.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 15, 2020, 12:15:21 PM
^^^Ben, it is time to move to the Dutton ranch and take the brand.

He's whine about all the tourists going to Yellowstone and the trustifarians (hipsters) in Bozeman.

Plus all the snow in that valley from Oct-Apr.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 02:46:01 PM
He's whine about all the tourists going to Yellowstone and the trustifarians (hipsters) in Bozeman.

Plus all the snow in that valley from Oct-Apr.

So do the Dutton's so I'd fit right in. Other than they don't get near enough snow there.

Also 75% of the filming is in Utah.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 15, 2020, 02:53:55 PM
https://www.prevention.com/life/a34016258/yellowstone-filming-location/

Lots of filming in Utah, but the mansion is in Montana near Darby.  Season 4 was all filmed in Montana since the Utah tax incentives ran out.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 15, 2020, 02:55:15 PM
So do the Dutton's so I'd fit right in. Other than they don't get near enough snow there.

Also 75% of the filming is in Utah.

Bozeman gets between 60-70" of snow each year.

Dutton's are fictional, the trustifarians of Bozeman are not.

Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 02:56:55 PM
Bozeman gets between 60-70" of snow each year.

Not enough.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 15, 2020, 02:59:51 PM
Not enough.

Enough for skiers, snowshoes and snowmobilers. i.e. people invading the area.


Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2020, 03:00:42 PM
https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?mt1050
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 15, 2020, 03:08:44 PM
https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?mt1050

I'm guessing that is in the mountains also that is from 1950-1995, annual snowfall in a lot places out west has declined a lot in the last 25 years.

https://www.weather-us.com/en/montana-usa/bozeman-climate#snowfall
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 15, 2020, 03:28:29 PM
^^^Ben, it is time to move to the Dutton ranch and take the brand.

At least they know how to deal with interlopers: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8-SnYHO27g
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Big Hairy Bee on December 15, 2020, 05:37:50 PM
And now here comes the sequel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijoL3Hy_Bw

My wife and I watched it last night. I thought it was a 90 minute commercial to carry a gun if you live or work in downtown Seattle.  I saw a lot of this stuff as I was walking 0.5 miles from the train station downtown to my office at 0615.  I am so glad I no longer work in downtown Seattle.

I lived in Capitol Hill near the CHAZ from 14 to 16 as a teacher.  Got out for a few reasons, cost of living a big one.  I am glad I got out when I did
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: grampster on December 15, 2020, 06:51:46 PM
What I never understood about Libprogs is why did they move out of a shithole they contributed to and then work overtime to screw up where they went.

I was an elected Township Trustee as well as working as an appointed goobermint critter on several Township and County boards.  The area where I lived was very rural with a lot of unpaved roads, several lakes, streams, a major river, a national forest, prairie land, swamps, fairly low taxes etc.  In other words not like living in the city. 

On more than one occasion people would come to our monthly township board public meetings and whine about wanting sidewalks, paved roads, street lighting and other big city amenities.  I always asked them why did they move to our township?  The answer always was about the ambiance of what I mentioned above.  I then would ask why then are you here wanting all of the "conveniences" of the city you moved away from?  Further, why don't you just go back to the city you came from and we'll continue to keep the ambiance you came for as we actually really like it that way.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 15, 2020, 09:26:03 PM
https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1338989255297703936
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: K Frame on December 16, 2020, 09:31:17 AM
https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1338989255297703936

That's what a mortar team is for.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 16, 2020, 09:44:52 AM
I saw an article the other day basically titled something like "US cities are going to be a thing of the past", wish I could find it. Spelled out a lot of things why people are leaving.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: dogmush on December 16, 2020, 10:56:37 AM
https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1338989255297703936

I am intrigued that the same groups that re-popularized the use of Molotov Cocktails this summer, as well as fireworks that explode with little bits of burning metal want to make their walls out of wood and buildings out of nylon.

*expletive deleted*it like that little hamlet is why fire codes exist.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 16, 2020, 10:59:46 AM
(https://cdn.thingiverse.com/renders/ca/2b/8c/ad/26/617f5711f172050ecdf2fecc5077a9be_preview_featured.jpg)
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 16, 2020, 11:03:27 AM
(https://cdn.thingiverse.com/renders/ca/2b/8c/ad/26/617f5711f172050ecdf2fecc5077a9be_preview_featured.jpg)

That can be stopped by protestor du jour, this is more efficient.

(https://i.insider.com/5a79cd64e21c1126008b488a?width=700)
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 16, 2020, 11:22:45 AM
We want to clean the park up not turn it something that looks like the surface of the moon. But keep one on standby just in case we change our minds,
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ron on December 16, 2020, 11:28:21 AM
This spiritual pandemic needs to be isolated and quarantined so that it can run its course.

The cure has been rejected so let it burn out naturally, while protecting the uninfected. 

Stop feeding the disease and giving it access to new hosts.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 16, 2020, 11:53:14 AM
We want to clean the park up not turn it something that looks like the surface of the moon. But keep one on standby just in case we change our minds,

Yeah, I was thinking precision guided munitions would be more appropriate.  Or just a sniper or two from a suitable position.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MechAg94 on December 16, 2020, 12:10:09 PM
Either way, people need to learn that misguided compassion is worse than doing nothing. 
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: K Frame on December 16, 2020, 12:31:04 PM
"not turn it something that looks like the surface of the moon."

Think outside the box. The skate rats will love it. Won't someone think of the skate rats?
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 16, 2020, 01:00:31 PM
"not turn it something that looks like the surface of the moon."

Think outside the box. The skate rats will love it. Won't someone think of the skate rats?


It would need to be paved over. Not something I would be against IF the skate rats pay for it. Oh yeah, it's Seattle, they can steal the money with the city's blessing because they "need" it. We're going to need more than one B-52 if you catch my drift.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 16, 2020, 02:05:36 PM
Quote
We're going to need more than one B-52 if you catch my drift.

A single SSBN should suffice.
24 Trident SLBMs with 8 MIRVed 100 ktTNT nuclear warheads ought to be plenty to get the job done

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50727300726_13a7a9c5c0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2khAFcd)
USS Louisiana SSBN-743
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 16, 2020, 02:08:22 PM
A single SSBN should suffice.
24 Trident SLBMs with 8 MIRVed 100 ktTNT nuclear warheads ought to be plenty to get the job done


Don't want to irradiate E. Washington St. Aren't they mostly on our side or let God sort them out?
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: dogmush on December 16, 2020, 02:10:43 PM
pshaw, the newer bombs are pretty clean.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 16, 2020, 02:10:45 PM
Don't want to irradiate E. Washington. Aren't they mostly on our side?

It's getting harder and harder to tell what "our side" is.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Jim147 on December 16, 2020, 02:14:11 PM
One MOAB's right in the center of the RHAZ should do it.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: charby on December 16, 2020, 02:19:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDypP1KfOU
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2020, 12:37:12 PM
Clearing the park out live feed with SWAT teams and full riot gear.  [popcorn]
Getting ugly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-oIG7jkCc
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2020, 12:58:12 PM
What they're yelling is mind numbingly stupid. I fear this will be the entire US in 4 years.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Jim147 on December 18, 2020, 01:19:36 PM
I watched a few minutes of it. I couldn't be a cop there. I might accidentally make someone die.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: dogmush on December 18, 2020, 01:23:00 PM
Jackmountainbiked thug? Is that a thing?

One of the "protesters" was just yelling at a cop "You ran her over! You ran her over!"

Yeah, with a Huffy..
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2020, 02:10:04 PM
Youtube deleted the video
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2020, 02:12:16 PM
Back up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-oIG7jkCc
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: K Frame on December 18, 2020, 02:14:18 PM
I so can't wait to get home to watch this...

Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2020, 02:15:09 PM
Now that's gone

New link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBi0rCuEYwI

The park is a flipping mess
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 18, 2020, 02:21:52 PM
Youtube deleted the video

Looks like it's been made private.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2020, 02:31:54 PM
I've seen YT do that before. May or may not been PT News that did it.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 18, 2020, 02:32:02 PM
https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/judge-denies-request-for-restraining-order-to-stop-clean-up-of-cal-anderson-park/281-0ab36c57-9348-4270-a1bd-f559c62fc6fb
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 29, 2020, 05:26:14 PM
Free hotel rooms
Wonder if this is made up of many from the park?

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Homeless Antifa activists took over sixteen motel rooms near Tacoma, Washington on Christmas Eve and are refusing to pay for the lodging, demanding that local government pick up the tab and turn the motel into a shelter.

    More than 40 homeless folks are occupying this Travelodge in the Tacoma/Fife area. Advocates say its up to Pierce County to pay for their housing in dangerously cold temps. The motel owner says if something isn’t done he may be forced out of business. pic.twitter.com/4oQIMuTkRR

Antifa activists take over hotel near Seattle as owner begs authorities for help
https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa-activists-take-over-hotel-near-seattle-as-owner-begs-authorities-for-help

Homeless group takes up residence in Fife motel as operator turns to city for help
https://komonews.com/news/local/homeless-group-refuses-to-pay-bill-in-fife-motel-occupation
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 29, 2020, 05:37:05 PM
Free hotel rooms
Wonder if this is made up of many from the park?

Antifa activists take over hotel near Seattle as owner begs authorities for help
https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa-activists-take-over-hotel-near-seattle-as-owner-begs-authorities-for-help

Homeless group takes up residence in Fife motel as operator turns to city for help
https://komonews.com/news/local/homeless-group-refuses-to-pay-bill-in-fife-motel-occupation

This is, and here I'm not being an armchair warrior, one step closer to rifle time. They're pulling this bullshit because to them, Travelodge is a corporation. Nevermind that a guy owns it as one motel in the franchise.

The next step towards rifle time is what I've been reading about people in many areas now getting year-long "rental relief" for the virus. Another step to the "great reset". I read that in Santa Barbara landlords now have to pay three months expenses when they evict someone "without cause". Cause being destroying property, threatening neighbors, etc. But not failure to pay rent. I'm sure a bunch of other liberal hellholes are doing the same thing, because to them, every landlord is a corporation.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 29, 2020, 05:37:23 PM
^^^I think this is very clever optics by the homeless advocacy group.  The City doesn't want to send the cops to force them out into the street in front of the media. The owner just wants to get paid but neither the advocacy group or City is leaping forward with the checkbook out.  So while the talking heads sit around a conference table, the owner is losing, and no one cares about him.

At the end of the day, the business owner is left holding the crappy end of the stick.  If he gets paid, when will that happen, and will it happen in time enough to save his livelihood.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 29, 2020, 05:40:11 PM

At the end of the day, the business owner is left holding the crappy end of the stick.  If he gets paid, when will that happen, and will it happen in time enough to save his livelihood.

Lets also not forget that this is antifa, so besides the rent, there will be significant damage to the rooms. I can't recall for sure, but I thought the hotels in San Francisco or Berkeley or wherever that were forced to take in the homeless, had their rooms pretty much trashed.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MillCreek on December 29, 2020, 05:42:35 PM
I'm sure a bunch of other liberal hellholes are doing the same thing, because to them, every landlord is a corporation.

And that just frosts my shorts.  We have friends who rent out a house or condo, or in some cases, they have a 4-5 apartment building that they are using as cash flow for their retirement.  They are as mom and pop as you can be.  We rented out my wife's condo for a while, until the market improved and we could sell it without being underwater.  Here in Washington, the eviction moratorium has been extended through March, and I worry what is going to happen to those small residential and commercial landlords.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 29, 2020, 06:15:58 PM
And that just frosts my shorts.  We have friends who rent out a house or condo, or in some cases, they have a 4-5 apartment building that they are using as cash flow for their retirement.  They are as mom and pop as you can be.  We rented out my wife's condo for a while, until the market improved and we could sell it without being underwater.  Here in Washington, the eviction moratorium has been extended through March, and I worry what is going to happen to those small residential and commercial landlords.

It's one of the reasons I got out of landlording in California. I know my tinfoil hat is on, but what's going on now "cuz covid" is just the perfect stepping stone to permanent "rent reforms" that will be the end of the individual landlord.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: dogmush on December 29, 2020, 06:44:57 PM
Burn the TravelLodge to the ground, blame antifa for starting the fire, collect the insurance,  and move the *expletive deleted*ck out of Seattle.

Owners problems are solved.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 29, 2020, 08:44:25 PM
Noticed a guy is even doing a live feed.
But only if you're bored out of your skull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjcoFH-4m3s
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MechAg94 on December 30, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Burn the TravelLodge to the ground, blame antifa for starting the fire, collect the insurance,  and move the *expletive deleted*ck out of Seattle.

Owners problems are solved.
That doesn't sound too bad, but getting it done with no witnesses and no evidence of arson will need some thought.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Jim147 on December 30, 2020, 05:17:51 AM
Turn off the utilities and they will probably burn it down for him.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 30, 2020, 08:26:23 AM
Sounds to me like the owner is a hard-working immigrant being attacked by rascist, rich whitey kids with a cause:

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And the manager? “I’m just devastated,” Shawn Randhawa told The News Tribune. “Because of the protest, I have nothing else. I was barely getting through this pandemic, and now this. This Christmas, the Grinch came.”

    “They are keeping me hostage. No one is out to help me,” he said. “It’s complete lawlessness in the city of Fife.”

    If the situation does not change in a few days, Randhawa said he will abandon the property and his 15 employees will stop showing up.

    “I’ll have to lock the doors. and if the city won’t kick them out, they can have it,” he said. “I’ll shut off the water and I’m not fighting with these people. I believe there should be a law.”

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/29/homeless-advocacy-group-occupying-washington-motel-refusing-to-pay-or-leave/
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Fly320s on December 30, 2020, 08:32:58 AM
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I believe there should be a law.

There is a law: criminal tresspassing.  Probably vandalism, too.

There problem is there is no law enforcement. 
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Unisaw on December 30, 2020, 08:51:22 AM
My employer's North Lake Union offices were burglarized repeatedly during the weekend of Christmas.  The Seattle PD has lost almost 200 officers during 2020, so I'm guessing any investigation won't be a priority.  I am so glad that I moved back to Virginia to work from a home office.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Ben on December 30, 2020, 09:00:20 AM

There problem is there is no law enforcement. 

There will be if the owner attempts to regain his property.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Scott Metro on December 30, 2020, 09:40:16 AM
Our nation quivers on the brink of extinction. My 2 cents..." when push comes to shove, only a dedicated citizen militia can save this nation".
We cannot count on our lawmakers, our law enforcement, our military, or any help from the rest of the world. I hate that we are forced to this, I see no other way. Surrender is not an option for me.
Extinction is the rule, survival is the exception.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: MechAg94 on December 30, 2020, 10:00:28 AM
There will be if the owner attempts to regain his property.
I think that is the key part of the equation.  Law enforcement has never been able to take care of everything.  When they actively prevent anyone else from taking action, it gets out of control.  If the police are busy, the hotel owner should be able to hire some muscle and run all those people out. 
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Post by: WLJ on December 30, 2020, 03:13:38 PM
Police moving in live feed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hT7sBhAZwQ
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: WLJ on December 30, 2020, 03:28:06 PM
ANIFA calling in reinforcements
This could get interesting
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Post by: WLJ on December 30, 2020, 03:37:16 PM
Kid whining about how the richest country in the world won't pay for the rooms
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Scott Metro on December 30, 2020, 07:25:24 PM
Sad thing. As we learned this past summer, and as Stalin is quoted as saying, "The police are a tool of whoever has the power".
I can understand some LEO's allowing looters, arsonists, killers to have their way with their city, I would have thought that many would have just acted on their own and brought hell down upon Antifa and BLM. Who's side would they be on?
I could not have stopped myself from a 20 round ammo dump on those Marxist POS's.
Just saying.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 30, 2020, 07:30:28 PM
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Who's side would they be on?

When, not if, push comes to shove you can count on 98%+ of law enforcement officers defaulting to their paycheck when given the alternative of enforcing unconstitutional, tyrannical orders or being unemployed.
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: Scott Metro on December 30, 2020, 07:38:19 PM
I was amazed and astounded when I learned that only 17% of the colonists took up arms against the British. The rest of our countrymen all had reasons to sit it out. What'ya think? Any different today?
Title: Re: Seattle is dying: a local news special
Post by: dogmush on December 30, 2020, 07:45:55 PM
When, not if, push comes to shove you can count on 98%+ of law enforcement officers defaulting to their paycheck when given the alternative of enforcing unconstitutional, tyrannical orders or being unemployed.

That is because 98% of cops don't  really think their job is going to kill them, so they default to paycheck.

If the choice is paycheck and 50% (or higher) chance of dying, or live and find a new job, I suspect a bunch will choose alive and unemployed.

Solzhenitsyn touched on the fact, and we need to realize the fact, that if there's actually tyranny that we need to fight, we need to kill the agents enforcing it. Not if they kick in your door at 3 am, that's too late.  When they are writing tickets, drinking coffee, or pumping gas.
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Post by: Ben on December 30, 2020, 08:23:58 PM
That is because 98% of cops don't  really think their job is going to kill them, so they default to paycheck.

If the choice is paycheck and 50% (or higher) chance of dying, or live and find a new job, I suspect a bunch will choose alive and unemployed.

Solzhenitsyn touched on the fact, and we need to realize the fact, that if there's actually tyranny that we need to fight, we need to kill the agents enforcing it. Not if they kick in your door at 3 am, that's too late.  When they are writing tickets, drinking coffee, or pumping gas.

I still believe much of it also relies on "red cop, blue cop", with many of them defaulting to their political philosophy. Not as major a choice of life or death, but it can come into play. A red cop, in a red cop shop, in a red town may have an easier time deciding to side with the constitution than a red cop in a blue city. Blue cops in blue cities might be more inclined to happily follow totalitarian orders, at least until people fight back.