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Title: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 13, 2019, 04:38:25 AM
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/06/12/supersonic-speeds-could-cause-big-problems-for-the-f-35s-stealth-coating/

The Navy and the Marines can't fly the F-35 at speed because the stealthy paint blisters, and the tail starts to fall apart. Great.
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: RocketMan on June 13, 2019, 06:56:37 AM
McNamara must be laughing his fanny off wherever he is.
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Fly320s on June 13, 2019, 08:53:36 AM
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/06/12/supersonic-speeds-could-cause-big-problems-for-the-f-35s-stealth-coating/

The Navy and the Marines can't fly the F-35 at speed because the stealthy paint blisters, and the tail starts to fall apart. Great.

Looks like an issue only in extreme cases.

I'm not a fan of the F-35, but I don't think this issue is a big deal.
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: TommyGunn on June 13, 2019, 07:42:33 PM
A couple or so of the first F-14 Tomcats shot themselves down with their Phoenix missiles,  but the problem was corrected  and the Tomcat had a respectable service life.

But the F-35 ..... do we need the variants?   And its budget has taken off at Mach speeds and remained intact and unpeeled.
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Andiron on June 13, 2019, 11:13:36 PM
All purpose just means it's mediocre at everything.
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: bedlamite on June 14, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/f-35-jets-chinese-owned-company-making-parts-for-top-secret-uk-us-fighters-11741889
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 14, 2019, 03:06:36 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/f-35-jets-chinese-owned-company-making-parts-for-top-secret-uk-us-fighters-11741889

 :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 14, 2019, 04:10:48 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/f-35-jets-chinese-owned-company-making-parts-for-top-secret-uk-us-fighters-11741889

What could go wrong?

https://youtu.be/6aS3bqAFtEY?t=80

Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Scout26 on June 14, 2019, 04:44:19 PM
The Blackhawk was often called the Crashhawk because of the problems it had initially.  Same with the V-22 Osprey.   All complex systems have "teething" problems at the beginning of their deployment into the service.   Same with the V-22.  They'll come up with a  fix for this.

While I agree that "All-purpose = sucks at everything", I don't think this is that big of an issue.
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: BobR on June 14, 2019, 04:52:33 PM
The Blackhawk was often called the Crashhawk because of the problems it had initially.  Same with the V-22 Osprey.   All complex systems have "teething" problems at the beginning of their deployment into the service.   Same with the V-22.  They'll come up with a  fix for this.

While I agree that "All-purpose = sucks at everything", I don't think this is that big of an issue.

The F/A18 had its share of teething problems also, especially in the early years but eventually it went from crawling to walking and then running and has turned into a reasonably nice airframe from what I have heard. :)

bob
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: bedlamite on June 14, 2019, 05:57:51 PM
The F/A18 had its share of teething problems also, especially in the early years but eventually it went from crawling to walking and then running and has turned into a reasonably nice airframe from what I have heard. :)

bob

https://news.usni.org/2019/03/21/42021
Title: Re: Tell me again why we need the F35
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 14, 2019, 11:07:26 PM

While I agree that "All-purpose = sucks at everything", I don't think this is that big of an issue.

The blistering paint isn't a huge deal. The structural degradation of the tail feathers, on the other hand ...