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Title: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 24, 2019, 06:29:12 PM
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/09/24/yeah-so-not-good-for-democrats-ben-domenech-spells-out-why-impeachment-is-basically-a-gift-to-trump-in-fact-filled-thread/

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Nancy Pelosi on whether Trump's decision to release the Ukrainian call transcript will cause Democrats to shift away fro calls for impeachment: "No. This is about the constitution of the United States. we have many other candidates for impeachable offenses."

Wait a minute! Aren't the D's the ones who have claimed that the Second Amendment doesn'r protect semi-automatic firearms because they didn't exist when the Constitution was written? If we follow that line of [alleged] logic, we would have to conclude that there can be nothing impeachable about a telephone call, because telephones sisn't exist when the Constitution was written.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on September 24, 2019, 07:44:49 PM
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/09/24/yeah-so-not-good-for-democrats-ben-domenech-spells-out-why-impeachment-is-basically-a-gift-to-trump-in-fact-filled-thread/

Wait a minute! Aren't the D's the ones who have claimed that the Second Amendment doesn'r protect semi-automatic firearms because they didn't exist when the Constitution was written? If we follow that line of [alleged] logic, we would have to conclude that there can be nothing impeachable about a telephone call, because telephones sisn't exist when the Constitution was written.

I'm not sure where your logic comes from, but this isn't working.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on September 24, 2019, 07:58:40 PM
Not impressed either;
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on September 24, 2019, 08:31:58 PM
It will be interesting to see if Trump played them (again). Pelosi jumped the gun because of pressure from the squad, et. al., and now, right after Pelosi's announcement,  the White House says it will release the full transcript and whistleblower complaint this week.

Makes it sound like Trump wanted them to go all in on impeachment thing before the transcript was released. Maybe it's 3D poker now.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on September 24, 2019, 09:51:53 PM
With Trump it always makes sense to wait a bit and see how things play out.

Personally, I'm exhausted just watching the show and hope that they get some new script writers for the next season.

That's assuming he doesn't get cancelled early or get fired next election.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on September 25, 2019, 07:33:01 AM
I have a feeling that there's a massive troll incoming... After Pelosi announced interest in impeachment, he's going to release the full phone conversation. I bet the conversation is going to be something like wishing Zelensky a happy birthday. >:D
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 25, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
Interesting transcript-that-isn't-a-transcript: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

No mention of Biden, and no mention of any quid pro quo regarding weapons or other American aid. This is what's got the Democrats' knickers in a twist?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on September 25, 2019, 11:34:56 AM
No mention of Biden

 ??? Top of page 4
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on September 25, 2019, 11:38:31 AM
Interesting transcript-that-isn't-a-transcript: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

No mention of Biden, and no mention of any quid pro quo regarding weapons or other American aid. This is what's got the Democrats' knickers in a twist?

From the transcript:

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The other thing,
There's a lot of. talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the
prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so
whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if
you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

And it seems a perfectly appropriate thing for the president to ask.


Unless we're just not allowed to investigate people in campaigns because that would be election tampering. In which case there are several people who should be in jail, replacing some others currently there.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 25, 2019, 11:55:50 AM
??? Top of page 4

Whoops. That's what I get for scanning instead of reading.

Still no quid pro quo though. No offers of arms for dirt deals.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 25, 2019, 12:04:09 PM
Would you like fries with your nothingbuger?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on September 25, 2019, 12:05:41 PM
Honestly it read to me like he was providing a tip on a Ukrainian criminal investigation.  "Look into the people that pulled your prosecutor off the case we'd both like solved.  Whole thing looked shady.  Also look into this guy because he's over here bragging he did shady stuff in the Ukraine."

Trump completely ignored the issue of the Javelins.

I'm sure the media will spin it into more collusion though.  [sigh]

I mean it's not as if he used paid for research conducted by a foreign national to fraudulently get a FISA warrant and sic the FBI on a political opponent.  Can you even imagine what a scandal that would be?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 25, 2019, 12:11:56 PM

I mean it's not as if he used paid for research conducted by a foreign national to fraudulently get a FISA warrant and sic the FBI on a political opponent.  Can you even imagine what a scandal that would be?

Unfortunately, we don't have to imagine ...
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on September 25, 2019, 12:20:14 PM
From the transcript:

And it seems a perfectly appropriate thing for the president to ask.


Investigating corrupt democrats is now an impeachable offense.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on September 25, 2019, 12:25:40 PM
Investigating corrupt democrats is now an impeachable offense.

While that may be the case, look at what Trump did here.

He suggested looking at the actions of corrupt politicians. As long as you weren't blatant and had freezers full of cash, influence peddling was PERFECTLY ok in Washington.

Nothing was EVER done about Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Waters, (I can keep going). I'm sure there are Republicans who also got rich from being in politics, but those are the egregious examples I know of.

What Republican has ever talked about that corruption? WE ALL KNOW they are corrupt, but the Republicans never bring it up.

That's why they are angry. Trump is going after THEIR meal ticket.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on September 25, 2019, 01:14:00 PM
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That's why they are angry. Trump is going after THEIR meal ticket.

One cannot even claim Trump beat them at 5D chess this time, he was playing checkers and still owned them. They fall for it every time.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: French G. on September 25, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
One cannot even claim Trump beat them at 5D chess this time, he was playing checkers and still owned them. They fall for it every time.

Really need a Charlie Brown football meme featuring Don and Nancy.  Checkers or level one poker, either way their best bet is to hope Trump gets tired of winning.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on September 25, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
I thought this might be a good spot to drop this.

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-if-you-impeach-me-now-i-shall-become-more-powerful-than-you-can-possibly-imagine
Trump: 'If You Impeach Me Now, I Shall More Powerful Than You Can Possibly Imagine'

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"If you impeach me now, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine," he said in an open address to his political foes. "Seriously, I will have huge power, believe me. Maybe the most power of anyone ever."
=D
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on September 25, 2019, 02:55:55 PM
I thought this might be a good spot to drop this.

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-if-you-impeach-me-now-i-shall-become-more-powerful-than-you-can-possibly-imagine
Trump: 'If You Impeach Me Now, I Shall More Powerful Than You Can Possibly Imagine'
 =D

I love that they go on to point out that after saying "I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine", Obiwan did jack squat.

Where's that power, Obi?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on September 25, 2019, 02:56:31 PM
Something to point out:

The released information is not a transcript, but notes taken by people monitoring the call.  Until we get the full transcript, or the audio, we don't know everything that was discussed.  Trump may have actually tried to bride Ukraine.  Still, I'm not sure paying Ukraine to investigate Biden's son would be a crime.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on September 25, 2019, 03:01:21 PM
Something to point out:

The released information is not a transcript, but notes taken by people monitoring the call.  Until we get the full transcript, or the audio, we don't know everything that was discussed.  Trump may have actually tried to bride Ukraine.  Still, I'm not sure paying Ukraine to investigate Biden's son would be a crime.


From what I've read.... it's a transcript made from the notes of (multiple) people listening on the call. As far as I know we don't record the president's conversations, so this is what we get.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on September 25, 2019, 03:22:09 PM
Something to point out:

The released information is not a transcript, but notes taken by people monitoring the call.  Until we get the full transcript, or the audio, we don't know everything that was discussed.  Trump may have actually tried to bride Ukraine.  Still, I'm not sure paying Ukraine to investigate Biden's son would be a crime.



I see that you and your avatar went into the witness protection program right after you pointed that out.

 =D
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on September 25, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
Trump may have actually tried to bride Ukraine.

Is that what they call it nowadays?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 25, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
Something to point out:

The released information is not a transcript, but notes taken by people monitoring the call.

That's why I referred to it as a "transcript-that's-not-a-transcript."

Hey, it's Washington, DC, and gummint. Did you seriously expect Washington words to mean the same thing they mean in the real world?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on September 25, 2019, 04:37:36 PM
I see that you and your avatar went into the witness protection program right after you pointed that out.

 =D

I think I need a new host for my avatar.  I've run out of bandwidth, I guess.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on September 26, 2019, 10:19:52 AM
Has Napolitano always been anti-Trump?
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-brazen-acts-of-corruption
I thought during spygate/fisagate he was pretty strongly backing the president.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on September 26, 2019, 11:01:31 AM
Has Napolitano always been anti-Trump?
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-brazen-acts-of-corruption
I thought during spygate/fisagate he was pretty strongly backing the president.

He was pro-Trump, and I recall lots of meetings between the two right after Trump was elected. Something seemed to have happened behind the scenes a few months ago, because since then Napolitano has been much more critical of Trump.

Napolitano has always struck me as a pretty straight shooter, so it would be interesting to know what caused the rift.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: BobR on September 26, 2019, 11:10:12 AM
He was pro-Trump, and I recall lots of meetings between the two right after Trump was elected. Something seemed to have happened behind the scenes a few months ago, because since then Napolitano has been much more critical of Trump.

Napolitano has always struck me as a pretty straight shooter, so it would be interesting to know what caused the rift.

Whatever it was the same thing seems to have happened with the Mooch!

bob
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 26, 2019, 11:10:50 AM
Could be baiting the Dems with deadend ideas. Trolling for Trump
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on September 26, 2019, 11:13:20 AM
Whatever it was the same thing seems to have happened with the Mooch!

bob

That one I'll blame on the Mooch. As obnoxious as Trump can get sometimes, the Mooch is that x100.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Pb on September 26, 2019, 11:52:10 AM
Napolitano believes literally every human being on earth has a right to move the USA:

https://www.creators.com/read/judge-napolitano/09/15/immigration-and-freedom

No wonder he doesn't like Trump.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 26, 2019, 12:16:11 PM
I have always viewed Napolitano as an opportunist, and I have never liked or trusted him.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on September 26, 2019, 01:07:34 PM
I have like Napalitano .... but he hasn't always been right on every subject on which he's proffered an opinion .   
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 26, 2019, 02:22:48 PM
According to this Schiff is making up his own version of the transcript as he goes

Impeachment Circus: Adam Schiff Kicks Off Intelligence Hearing By Making Up Parts Of the Trump-Ukraine Transcript
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/26/impeachment-circus-top-democrat-kicks-off-intelligence-hearing-by-making-up-part-n2553753
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on September 26, 2019, 02:48:21 PM
According to this Schiff is making up his own version of the transcript as he goes

Impeachment Circus: Adam Schiff Kicks Off Intelligence Hearing By Making Up Parts Of the Trump-Ukraine Transcript
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/26/impeachment-circus-top-democrat-kicks-off-intelligence-hearing-by-making-up-part-n2553753

Schiff is a proven pathological liar.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 26, 2019, 03:53:45 PM
Schiff is a proven pathological liar.

But it's not a lie if it fits the narrative

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Schiff later explained that his version of events was simply a "summary of the president's call was meant to be, at least part, in parody."

WATCH: Rep. Elise Stefanik Shades Chairman Schiff at DNI Hearing
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/09/26/watch-rep-elise-stefanik-shades-chairman-schiff-at-dni-hearing-n2553774
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on September 27, 2019, 09:35:29 AM
Ran across this factoid someplace this morning.

Democrats have opened investigations or hearings regarding impeachment on every elected Republican President since Eisenhower.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 27, 2019, 10:15:05 AM
But wait, there's more

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/09/27/wait-a-minute-tweet-adam-schiffty-schiff-sent-out-a-month-ago-looks-very-very-familiar-hint-whistleblower/
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Liddle’ Adam Schiff sent this tweet out almost a month ago to the day.

    Trump is withholding vital military aid to Ukraine, while his personal lawyer seeks help from the Ukraine government to investigate his political opponent.

    It doesn’t take a stable genius to see the magnitude of this conflict.

    Or how destructive it is to our national security. https://t.co/X4yhTS2q1Z

    — Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) August 29, 2019

It’s almost like Schiff couldn’t help himself and had to share something he thought he knew … remember when he told the world he had proof that Trump colluded with Russia?

This guy is a train wreck.

Seriously.

    Wait a minute. Check this out: Schiff tweeted this exact same Trump-Ukraine "collusion" narrative a month ago. Hmm … Exactly how long have Schiffty-Schiff and Dems been working with this "whistleblower"? Smelling more and more like prefabrication https://t.co/cRXi222Zwi

    — Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) September 27, 2019

Hmmm
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 27, 2019, 11:09:27 AM
This should ruffle a few feathers

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   Rep. Adam Schiff totally made up my conversation with Ukraine President and read it to Congress and Millions. He must resign and be investigated. He has been doing this for two years. He is a sick man!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 27, 2019
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    ...sound horrible, and me sound guilty. HE WAS DESPERATE AND HE GOT CAUGHT. Adam Schiff therefore lied to Congress and attempted to defraud the American Public. He has been doing this for two years. I am calling for him to immediately resign from Congress based on this fraud!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 27, 2019
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on September 27, 2019, 02:53:09 PM
I also saw a tweet that pointed to a month old tweet by Schiff saying pretty much exactly what he is saying now.  Making people wonder how long he has been talking to this whistleblower. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 27, 2019, 03:08:08 PM
I also saw a tweet that pointed to a month old tweet by Schiff saying pretty much exactly what he is saying now.  Making people wonder how long he has been talking to this whistleblower. 

There's a link to it in #37
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on September 29, 2019, 07:42:11 PM
This just in: Pelosi is "heartbroken" (she says).

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pelosi-heartbroken-prayerful-dems-move-forward-impeachment-inquiry/story?id=65931464

What a liar and a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on September 29, 2019, 09:03:22 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/intel-community-secretly-gutted-requirement-of-first-hand-whistleblower-knowledge/
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Federal records show that the intelligence community secretly revised the formal whistleblower complaint form in August 2019 to eliminate the requirement of direct, first-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.

Changing this rule makes little sense.  How can someone be a whistleblower if they have no direct knowledge of what happened?  Why should someone get legal protection for reporting rumors they heard about?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 29, 2019, 09:10:07 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/intel-community-secretly-gutted-requirement-of-first-hand-whistleblower-knowledge/
Changing this rule makes little sense.  How can someone be a whistleblower if they have no direct knowledge of what happened?  Why should someone get legal protection for reporting rumors they heard about?


Damned convenient that.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on September 30, 2019, 09:36:26 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/transcript-reveals-trump-ukrainian-president-argued-for-fifteen-minutes-about-who-would-hang-up-first
Transcript Reveals Trump, Ukrainian President Argued For Fifteen Minutes About Who Would Hang Up First


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At long last the call ended when Trump threatened to withhold military aid unless Zelenskey hung up first.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on September 30, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
Throw another Nothingburger on the grill

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Jake Tapper

@jaketapper

breaking -- NYT: Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Originshttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html …
New York Times scoop on President Trump ‘pressing’ Australia’s PM for help isn’t really a bombshell
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/09/30/new-york-times-scoop-on-president-trump-pressing-australias-pm-for-help-isnt-really-a-bombshell/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on October 01, 2019, 08:26:06 AM
Damned convenient that.
Apparently the whistleblower claimed firsthand knowledge anyway, although I don't recall seeing that in the complaint.

Quote from: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-intelligence-community-inspector-general-needs-better-editors/
The Ukraine whistleblower was actually provided this language, according to the new statement, so it wasn’t eliminated for his benefit. And again, when he filed his form he marked that he had both first- and secondhand knowledge, so a requirement of firsthand knowledge wouldn’t have mattered anyway — whether it was an actual policy or just an erroneous sentence on an informational sheet. But man, what a train wreck.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on October 01, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
A collection of "impeachable" snippets starting pretty much the day Trump was elected:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/09/30/this-is-unreal-newsbusters-video-shows-how-the-medias-been-obsessed-with-impeachment-since-within-days-of-trumps-election/

"If he were caught snorting cocaine in the White House with one of his kids, that would be an impeachable offense."

These people all have broken brains.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on October 03, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
More it's not lying as long as it fits the narrative

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"I want the American people to know what that phone call was about. I want them to hear, it. So yeah it’s fair," Pelosi said Thursday on "Good Morning America."

"It’s sad, but it's using the president’s own words," she added.

"But those weren't the president's words, it was an interpretation of the president's words. They're saying he made this up," he replied.

“He did not make it up,” Pelosi insisted.

Pelosi Blatantly Lies During GMA Interview About Schiff's Reading of Ukraine Transcript
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/10/03/what-pelosi-is-claiming-schiff-didnt-make-up-trump-quotes-about-ukraine-call-n2554154
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on October 04, 2019, 08:58:48 AM
Among all the other things going on, like Schiff's duplicity, it appears the whistleblower was an Obama guy digging up Ukraine dirt on Trump during the election.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/10/04/huge-if-true-yup-the-whistleblower-is-a-registered-democrat-but-it-gets-worse-so-much-worse/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on October 04, 2019, 09:54:15 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb100319dAPC20191004034507.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on October 04, 2019, 05:38:49 PM
Something odd I've noticed about Trump.

He always says things and acts like he has absolutely zero regard for the consequences. Its ZFG all the time.

He always acts like the end result of his presidency is already a given, and it's winning.

Every "scandel" that crops up he just wades into fists flying.

What if the Trump team already has enough evidence of Democrat wrongdoing or treason and they are just playing with the Dems?

What if they really are going to take down a bunch of leftist players right before the election?

Unlikely I suspect.

Sure would be something though if that's what happens.

Shaping up to be a crazy year regardless.

 


Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on October 04, 2019, 05:59:58 PM
What if the Trump team already has enough evidence of Democrat wrongdoing or treason and they are just playing with the Dems?
What if they really are going to take down a bunch of leftist players right before the election?

That bombshell is always just around the corner (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/will-barr-and-durham-really-find-a-bombshell/)...
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 04, 2019, 08:40:54 PM
Sadly I do not believe any of the top players will be held accountable for their crimes.
Maybe, just maybe, a small handful of lower level scumbags might (Strozk, Page, ???) stand trial but I'm not optimistic.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on October 05, 2019, 10:59:17 AM
That bombshell is always just around the corner (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/will-barr-and-durham-really-find-a-bombshell/)...
You could say the same about what the Democrats are saying.  They always have the next surefire accusation that is guaranteed to justify impeachment.  The media begins acting as if it is true when no evidence is yet given.  Then it turns out there is no evidence and nothing happened.  The media and Democrats continue to screech for a while before moving to another accusation. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on October 05, 2019, 03:39:22 PM
You could say the same about what the Democrats are saying.  They always have the next surefire accusation that is guaranteed to justify impeachment.  The media begins acting as if it is true when no evidence is yet given.  Then it turns out there is no evidence and nothing happened.  The media and Democrats continue to screech for a while before moving to another accusation. 

The latest one is "The Texts!"

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/04/us/politics/ukraine-text-messages-volker.html

Reading just that article makes Trump, et al., look like mobsters.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Scout26 on October 05, 2019, 07:15:58 PM

Deputy, get us some rope.  We're going to have a trial.

(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb100319dAPC20191004034507.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on October 05, 2019, 07:26:33 PM
I know it's me being like "the other side", but I'm getting to the same point that got me to go from 3rd party to voting for Trump. In that, when the next dem is President, I'm going to start demanding impeachment on swearing-in day, and demand investigations every single day of his/her presidency. I want nothing but investigations going on every single day about getting them thrown out of office.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 05, 2019, 08:41:52 PM
They didn't even wait till.he was in office before they began the impeachment screachment.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on October 09, 2019, 09:29:42 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb100919dAPR20191009124644.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on October 09, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
 :facepalm:  And THAT'S pretty much the truth .
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on October 13, 2019, 11:27:36 AM
Awkward:

https://saraacarter.com/impeachment-the-speech-nancy-pelosi-wished-she-never-gave/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 13, 2019, 01:36:37 PM
Awkward:

https://saraacarter.com/impeachment-the-speech-nancy-pelosi-wished-she-never-gave/

I seriously doubt f Pelosi or any Democrat is that self aware or even cares.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 13, 2019, 05:28:39 PM
Awkward:

https://saraacarter.com/impeachment-the-speech-nancy-pelosi-wished-she-never-gave/

Speech? What speech? I don't remember any speech.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on October 13, 2019, 11:31:44 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465551-tlaib-says-democrats-have-discussed-detaining-white-house-officials-who-dont?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Tlaib says Democrats have discussed detaining White House officials who don't testify

How does this fit in that "balance" discussion from earlier?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on October 14, 2019, 01:15:37 AM
What's the over/under on Trump sending the USMC from 8th and I, or FBI HRT over to get his employees if the Sergeant-at-Arms gets frisky?  Especially if he gets frisky before a court rules on the whole "There's no actual impeachment hearing going on, so where's the authority to subpoena?" argument.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on October 14, 2019, 05:52:11 AM
I seriously doubt f Pelosi or any Democrat is that self aware or even cares.

Oh, she is aware, as are all politicians, but that doesn't matter because politics is always an "us vs them" fight.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on October 14, 2019, 08:46:52 AM
What's the over/under on Trump sending the USMC from 8th and I, or FBI HRT over to get his employees if the Sergeant-at-Arms gets frisky?  Especially if he gets frisky before a court rules on the whole "There's no actual impeachment hearing going on, so where's the authority to subpoena?" argument.
Wouldn't that be using the military in a domestic situation?  Would we really want that?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on October 14, 2019, 09:00:10 AM
Wouldn't that be using the military in a domestic situation?  Would we really want that?

I didn't say I wanted it, I pondered that he might do it.

HRT isn't military though.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on October 14, 2019, 11:37:34 AM
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    Rand Paul: “Four senators, Democrats, wrote a letter to the Ukrainian government and said, ‘If you don't keep investigating Trump we may reconsider our bipartisan support for your aid ... Someone needs to actually, in an objective way, evaluate [the] letter ... That's a threat’” pic.twitter.com/59kyjIN46N
    — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) October 13, 2019

Rand: If You're Going to Condemn Trump on Ukraine, You Need to Condemn Three Dems Too
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/10/14/rand-wants-investigation-of-four-dems-who-sent-letter-to-ukraine-n2554655
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on October 15, 2019, 09:20:16 AM
https://magadailyreport.com/2019/10/ukraine-gave-more-money-to-clinton-foundation-that-any-nation-on-earth/
Ukraine Gave More Money To Clinton Foundation That Any Nation On Earth


(https://magadailyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/uki.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on October 15, 2019, 10:31:49 AM
https://www.westernjournal.com/damning-transcript-bill-clinton-call-shows-asked-tony-blairs-help-influence-election/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Damning Transcript of Bill Clinton Call Shows He Asked for Tony Blair's Help To Influence Election

Not really a smoking gun, but about on par (maybe worse) with what Trump actually did.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on October 15, 2019, 10:37:02 AM
https://www.westernjournal.com/damning-transcript-bill-clinton-call-shows-asked-tony-blairs-help-influence-election/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Damning Transcript of Bill Clinton Call Shows He Asked for Tony Blair's Help To Influence Election

Not really a smoking gun, but about on par (maybe worse) with what Trump actually did.

Yeah, but that was different because ORANGE MAN BAD!
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 05, 2019, 01:46:06 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb110519dAPR20191105034522.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
"I defied the rain..."

Grandiose nut-job has been plumping for impeachment since the beginning.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/07/anti-trump-whistleblowers-attorney-coup-has-started-we-will-get-rid-of-trump/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 11, 2019, 10:58:21 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/fellow-soldiers-slam-col-vindman-for-pushing-a-coup-by-testifying-in-uniform-and-for-secretly-advising-ukrainians-to-ignore-us-president/
Fellow Soldiers SLAM Col. Vindman for “Pushing a Coup” by Testifying in Uniform and For Secretly Advising Ukrainians to Ignore US President


I saw this today.  I haven't been keeping up with impeachment news and haven't seen much other commentary than this.  It has links to the testimony if you want to read further. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on November 13, 2019, 07:57:13 AM
So was he offering or withholding? Because they're not both bribery. I think these guys are digging themselves a big hole.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/11/13/dems-dont-think-voters-understand-what-quid-pro-quo-means-so-now-theyre-calling-it-bribery/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 13, 2019, 03:23:00 PM
Ben Shapiro argued today that Trump couldn't have committed a crime because he lacked intent.
Quote from: Ben Shaprio
I don't actually see objectively that Trump has ever had the level of intent necessary to do anything. I don't think he's ever had the level of intent to eat a hamburger. I think it's half accident when he eats a hamburger.
He has thoughts...and he vomits the thoughts whenever he is asked about a particular topic.
I thought that was an interesting line of defense. :lol:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 13, 2019, 05:20:49 PM
So why no special prosecutor in this case? It seems like they decided that it was a waste of time in the Russia Hoax, so they just wanted to skip that step here.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 13, 2019, 06:20:20 PM
So their star witnesses actually witness nothing

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   Both of the Democrats’ star witnesses in the #ImpeachmentHearings just confirmed that they were not on the call...

    So, they have nothing to offer? ??#DemsGotNothing #NoEvidencepic.twitter.com/N2DPyKD5vF
    — Jenny Beth Martin (@jennybethm) November 13, 2019
Quote
   To summarize what's happened:

    Bill Taylor, the Democrats star witness, has basically admitted today that he got virtually all of his hearsay info from Gordon Sondland

    We have Sondland, in writing, admitting he really didn't know what happened with Ukrainian aid

    This is a farce
    — Mark Meadows (@RepMarkMeadows) November 13, 2019
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/11/13/adam-schiff-interrupts-gop-questioning-instructs-witnesses-how-to-answer-n2556441
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 13, 2019, 06:22:53 PM
And it gets better

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    ??HOLY, WOW ??

    Rep. Adam Schiff is blocking/interrupting GOP questions while telling witnesses how to answer.

    GOP asks about Ukraine trying to help Hillary win election.

    Schiff jumps in and tells witnesses they don't have to answer GOP questions.

    This is a third-world coup! pic.twitter.com/Hklsrph2Cw
    — Benny (@bennyjohnson) November 13, 2019
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 13, 2019, 07:02:15 PM
So why no special prosecutor in this case?

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor#Current_regulations
The decision to appoint a special counsel rests with the attorney general

Since the expiration of the independent counsel provisions in the Ethics in Government Act in 1999, as was the case before 1978, neither Congress nor the courts have any official role in the appointment of a special counsel
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 14, 2019, 10:56:26 AM
Not that it matters to the media and the dems but.........

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Ukrainian foreign minister Vadym Prystaiko said Thursday that U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland had “never” linked U.S. aid to Ukrainian investigations of the 2016 elections or the Biden’s role in stopping a probe of Burisma.

Ukraine Foreign Minister: U.S. Aid, Investigations Were ‘Never’ Linked
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/ukraine-foreign-minister-aid-investigations-were-never-linked/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 15, 2019, 10:04:14 AM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1194817581514801153?s=19
Video of AOC being a little too honest from twitter.
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Ocasio-Cortez says that Democrats' push for impeaching Trump is about uniting the different factions of the Democrat Party, adding: “this is about preventing a potentially disastrous outcome from occurring next year.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 15, 2019, 10:30:52 AM
How dare Trump do this!
Poor Schiff

Schiff Tells Trump to Stop Interrupting Public Hearings As He Releases Second Transcript
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/11/15/the-second-transcript-makes-its-way-into-the-second-public-hearing-n2556552

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 15, 2019, 10:34:07 AM
This is from the above link

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    Here's a key detail:

    In her deposition, Yovanovitch and Schiff speculated that President Trump and President Zelensky had discussed her on this call and "bash[ed]" her

    But as the transcript shows, Yovanovitch was not discussed pic.twitter.com/uYNWBrqJnS
    — Zach Parkinson (@AZachParkinson) November 15, 2019

Where's my Advil?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 15, 2019, 12:23:11 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-requests-impeachment-trial-by-combat
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 15, 2019, 01:56:02 PM
[points out that special counsels are appointed by the AG]

Then shouldn't they be questioning the AG for his failure to investigate these egregious crimes?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 15, 2019, 01:57:20 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-requests-impeachment-trial-by-combat

:rofl:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 16, 2019, 09:39:09 AM
Well this is definitely an impeachable offense

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State Department staffer David Holmes, the aide who claims to have overheard President Donald Trump talking to U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland the day after his July 25 conversations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, testified in a closed-door impeachment inquiry hearing at the House Intelligence Committee Friday afternoon that he overheard Sondland telling President Trump that President Zelensky “loves your ass.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/15/state-department-staffer-sondland-told-trump-zelensky-loves-your-ass/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 16, 2019, 10:54:34 PM
Ocasio-Cortez accidentally tells the truth about impeachment:

"This is not just about something that has occurred, this is about preventing a potentially disastrous outcome from occurring next year."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 16, 2019, 11:14:34 PM
I find myself mostly tuning out the news about the latest coup attempt. It seems like the Dems thought they were on to something with the Russia hoax, and when that was over, they needed to keep the fans interested, so they phoned in a sequel.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 17, 2019, 01:31:57 PM
So was he offering or withholding? Because they're not both bribery. I think these guys are digging themselves a big hole.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/11/13/dems-dont-think-voters-understand-what-quid-pro-quo-means-so-now-theyre-calling-it-bribery/

First, Orange Man was wrong to withhold funds. Now, Orange Man is wrong for giving them funds, or whatever it was. Why don't they just go ahead and impeach him for killing America, and Beyonce, and cancelling Firefly? Let's get this thing over with.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 18, 2019, 08:29:17 AM
Then shouldn't they be questioning the AG for his failure to investigate these egregious crimes?
I find myself mostly tuning out the news about the latest coup attempt.
It's out there, maybe you're just tuning it out?

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“He’s gone rogue,” Pelosi said on the MSNBC “Morning Joe” television program Friday, referring to Barr. “I think where they’re going is a cover-up of a cover-up.”
Quote
it was Barr who was at the very center of an audacious scheme to prevent an investigation of the president’s misconduct—a scheme that failed, and ended up setting the stage for Trump’s impeachment.
Quote
Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, said, “The idea that the Department of Justice would have intervened to prevent it from getting to Congress throws the leadership of the department into further ill repute.”
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on November 18, 2019, 08:48:19 AM
It's out there, maybe you're just tuning it out?


The rich powerful elites I prefer are superior to the rich powerful elites you prefer.

My rich powerful elites don't hate or despise the people they govern.

As best I can gather, you prefer the globalist egalitarian Republicans who never conserve anything, the type who roll over for the left on command.



Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 18, 2019, 09:13:02 AM
The rich powerful elites I prefer are superior to the rich powerful elites you prefer.
My rich powerful elites don't hate or despise the people they govern.
As best I can gather, you prefer the globalist egalitarian Republicans who never conserve anything, the type who roll over for the left on command.
OK ??? I'm not really sure what that has to do with what I posted here.
Fistful has asked a few questions and I have provided a few answers, I don't think I made any commentary on which rich powerful elites were better.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 18, 2019, 11:25:44 AM
They're bored

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"So I don’t know how other folks will vote because in all honesty, originally, I thought there was going to be a few more, not that it matters to me if I'm 1 of 101. I do what I believe is right," Van Drew replied. "But there is some discussion among some of them quietly, privately of concern, certainly. I mean, what I’m hearing in the street with most people is they're tired, they're kind of worn out, they're bored and they really want to move on."

Democrat Congressman Claims Some In His Party Are Having Second Thoughts About Impeachment
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2019/11/18/democrat-congressman-claims-some-in-his-party-are-having-second-thoughts-about-impeachment-n2556635
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 18, 2019, 04:37:19 PM
It's out there, maybe you're just tuning it out?



I hope so.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: charby on November 19, 2019, 12:02:12 PM
I think Adam Schiff has the world's longest case of constipation. His facial expressions looks like he really needs to take a big power dump but can't.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 19, 2019, 12:56:54 PM
I think Adam Schiff has the world's longest case of constipation. His facial expressions looks like he really needs to take a big power dump but can't.

... and he'll blame Trump for that as well.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: HankB on November 19, 2019, 02:07:33 PM
First, Orange Man was wrong to withhold funds. Now, Orange Man is wrong for giving them funds, or whatever it was. Why don't they just go ahead and impeach him for killing America, and Beyonce, and cancelling Firefly? Let's get this thing over with.
IT WAS ORANGE MAN WHO CANCELLED FIREFLY?!?! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on November 19, 2019, 05:49:22 PM
I probably shouldn't have posted the pic and let you scroll to it, but I laughed and laughed and laughed. I saw the clip in question this morning, and they kinda hit the nail on the head here:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJwsWEIX0AI0MPz?format=png&name=small)

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/11/19/how-did-vets-and-enlisted-people-react-to-lt-col-alexander-vindmans-dont-call-me-maam-moment/

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 19, 2019, 10:20:25 PM
Guy reminds me of a certain ex chicken farmer

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/hLem3gYSUxEMLAyjZV_ZdPvxms8=/767x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3NXK26QKJQI6VACUFCNO63RYUM.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 19, 2019, 11:45:57 PM
Guy reminds me of a certain ex chicken farmer

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/hLem3gYSUxEMLAyjZV_ZdPvxms8=/767x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3NXK26QKJQI6VACUFCNO63RYUM.jpg)

The guy looks like a complete wimp, yet he's wearing both a CIB and jump wings. I wonder if he really earned them, or if they were pretty much given to him for career enhancement purposes.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on November 20, 2019, 12:59:10 AM
Let me say that I have no idea about this particular officer's credentials, but in general:

Jump School is like three weeks, and not super difficult as long as you can run.  As an Infantry Branched Officer, the LTC was probably offered that school early in his career and went as an LT.  Not an indicator of anything really.  He's got a 25th ID SSI-FWS (combat patch) so he wasn't in an "airborne" regiment for that deployment. 

CIB's are pretty common these days too.  One must be an infantryman (he is) assigned to an Infantry Unit (25ID, at least) and engage in ground combat.  So it's likely that at some point in his career he was at minimum trading shots with the enemy.  That doesn't mean he was in Falujah or Mosul, but he did participate in a two way range.

If I wanted to be uncharitable, I would point out that he's got at least a deployment, and an Enemy Marksmanship Badge (Purple Heart) but only a couple of Defense Meritorious Service Metals, and a single Meritorious Service Medal.  To put that in perspective, I have three MSM's, and two were participation awards for deployments that did not include combat.  I find it....unusual that an Officer was in combat (CIB), and got wounded (Purple heart) but didn't even manage a Bronze Star participation award for that run.  From 2004-20012 or so, officer's and senior enlisted were getting BSMs for pretty much anything outside of Kuwait.  Unless you *expletive deleted*ed up.

I also notice that as an LTC on Active Duty (Presumably almost 20 years in) he has between 12 and 18 months Overseas Service (the two bars on his right sleeve.  Each bar denotes 6 months overseas).  To put that in perspective, I'm a Reservist and have 7 Overseas Service Bars (and most of the way to my 8th.)  You have to wonder what happened on that one deployment.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2019, 08:04:53 AM
I also notice that as an LTC on Active Duty (Presumably almost 20 years in) he has between 12 and 18 months Overseas Service (the two bars on his right sleeve.  Each bar denotes 6 months overseas).  To put that in perspective, I'm a Reservist and have 7 Overseas Service Bars (and most of the way to my 8th.)  You have to wonder what happened on that one deployment.

Possibly he didn't do anything wrong (in that sense of the word)? I knew an O-6 that had one at sea billet and then went straight to DC and never left, because the DC politics were his ambition. AFAIK, he's still there as a GS-15 or SES, because back when he retired, the next day he walked into the same building as a GS-15 in a suit.

Maybe this guy was just a player and the swamp saw his potential? Though (and I'm no expert) O-5 seems a grade low for 20 years and being a player.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on November 20, 2019, 09:09:16 AM
Indeed that does happen, but not without the officer trying to make it happen.

I was responding to Hawk's question, and in general the Left piling this guy with the "Veteran, so unimpeachable honor" aura.  Again, I don't know the guy, but if I met him at a conference I would think "hmmm".

Quote
Maybe this guy was just a player and the swamp saw his potential? Though (and I'm no expert) O-5 seems a grade low for 20 years and being a player.


IMO that would not be a point in his favor.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2019, 09:16:12 AM

IMO that would not be a point in his favor.

Absolutely agree, but it seems one explanation as to why he didn't deploy a lot.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 20, 2019, 10:41:16 AM

Maybe this guy was just a player and the swamp saw his potential? Though (and I'm no expert) O-5 seems a grade low for 20 years and being a player.

Maybe he's not a particularly good player. It would appear he's attached to the NSA because he's an "expert" on Ukraine, and he's an "expert" on Ukraine because he's Ukrainian. That could be a bad thing because, rather than being an objective student of all things Ukrainian, he would (I guess) speak the language fluently but he might also bring with him all sorts of prejudices and biases learned from his parents and family.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 20, 2019, 10:59:35 AM
he's an "expert" on Ukraine because he's Ukrainian. That could be a bad thing because, rather than being an objective student of all things Ukrainian, he would (I guess) speak the language fluently but he might also bring with him all sorts of prejudices and biases learned from his parents and family.
What credentials are you looking for?
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After his time in Iraq, Vindman’s path shifted from combat infantryman to Harvard University student, and he earned a master’s degree in Russian, Eastern Europe and Central Asian studies.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 20, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
What credentials are you looking for?
Is "Ivy League graduate" supposed to make him look better to us?  I am sure that was good in D.C. for his career.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 20, 2019, 12:15:08 PM
Is "Ivy League graduate" supposed to make him look better to us? 
It was suggested he lacked credentials for that position, that an "objective student of all things Ukrainian" would be better.
I'm honestly curious what credentials one would look for and why having a masters in that subject area wouldn't qualify.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 20, 2019, 12:57:16 PM
It was suggested he lacked credentials for that position, that an "objective student of all things Ukrainian" would be better.
I'm honestly curious what credentials one would look for and why having a masters in that subject area wouldn't qualify.

I don't know that it really matters if he was taking sides in political games against his COC.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 20, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
I don't know that it really matters if he was taking sides in political games against his COC.
It may not really matter, much like how Vindman managed to earn certain medals but not others.
I try to focus on the important stuff like Gordon Sondland's watch (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gordon-sondland-wears-55-000-watch-for-impeachment-testimony).  :lol:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MillCreek on November 20, 2019, 07:46:40 PM
^^^I have never been into watches as jewelry, and the older I get, the more I value a clean analog face so I can rapidly tell the time with my aging eyes.

The Seiko 5S field watch is my current favorite: (https://www.watchreviewblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Seiko-Clear.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on November 20, 2019, 08:02:34 PM
 =|  Meh ... I still like my Casio  digital.   
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: grampster on November 20, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
It's amazing how the story varies from MSM to some FOX news to independent news on the internet.  It makes it sound like there are two hearings going on with the same people.  I'm not watching as my blood pressure meds are not strong enough to compensate.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Parker Dean on November 21, 2019, 12:04:55 PM
It may not really matter, much like how Vindman managed to earn certain medals but not others.
I try to focus on the important stuff like Gordon Sondland's watch (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gordon-sondland-wears-55-000-watch-for-impeachment-testimony).  :lol:
I like that the watch they try to say he's wearing isn't even close to the one he's actually wearing and they apparently don't care. The subdials are different and in different locations. What he's wearing is a Breguet Marine II GMT in stainless which appears to retail for about $20K new. Used seems to go for the low teens so if you want to be charitable he's actually spending less than 10K on that watch. And as with all these high-dollar watches, if he keeps it long enough he may even make a little bit of money on it so it could work out to be basically free. Oh and could you imagine the savaging he'd get if he showed up with something like a Timex Expedition in a crowd like that?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 21, 2019, 06:50:19 PM
It's amazing how the story varies from MSM to some FOX news to independent news on the internet.  It makes it sound like there are two hearings going on with the same people.  I'm not watching as my blood pressure meds are not strong enough to compensate.
That is why I try to filter who I get news from.  It isn't worth browsing through all the BS to get a few nuggets of information and it makes it very difficult to be optimistic at all.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 21, 2019, 08:26:07 PM
Impeachment hearing transcript:


Witness X : "Trump did nothing wrong"


News media: "Witness X gave damning testimony in today's hearings."

Foul democrat libtard congressman: "Orange man bad, dishonors office of president"
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MillCreek on November 21, 2019, 09:24:21 PM
We were just watching the story on the national news.  We think at least one article will be issued, the Senate will hold a trial but will not have the necessary 2/3rds vote to convict. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 21, 2019, 10:05:07 PM
That is why I try to filter who I get news from.  It isn't worth browsing through all the BS to get a few nuggets of information and it makes it very difficult to be optimistic at all.

Me too. Tired of getting "news" and "analysis" from people determined to misunderstand the truth, and deny what truths they know. The theoretical value of hearing the other side's point of view seems pretty low when the other side is the postmodern Left.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 22, 2019, 08:36:24 AM
at least one article will be issued, the Senate will hold a trial but will not have the necessary 2/3rds vote to convict. 
I think that's been the safe bet since the beginning.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on November 22, 2019, 01:13:06 PM
Trump says he supports a Senate Impeachment trial.

Good synopsis of how the libs are getting pwned:
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1197634542762414081
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on November 22, 2019, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Twitter User "@Education4Libs"
If Trump goes on trial, he’s going to expose every single crime the Dems have committed going back to January of 2009.
And not only will the Senate NOT convict him, the Democratic Party will die.
Impeachment is the death of the Democratic Party.
I know I've heard this wishful thinking before....
What if the Trump team already has enough evidence of Democrat wrongdoing or treason and they are just playing with the Dems?
What if they really are going to take down a bunch of leftist players right before the election?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on November 22, 2019, 04:30:01 PM
https://twitter.com/kabamur_taygeta/status/1197963301688184832?s=21


(https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/afd/d8/50ba40b776a6ce9467e07ec900a1ef4d.jpg)

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 24, 2019, 10:37:59 AM
Add the fact that RBG is back in the hospital into the mix.
Be interesting to see if this makes the dems more desperate
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 24, 2019, 10:52:36 AM
Wait a minute, is Schiff having doubts about impeachment now?

WATCH: Shifty Schiff Suddenly Backpedals His Support for Impeachment
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/11/24/watch-shifty-schiff-suddenly-backpedals-his-support-for-impeachment-n2556989
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on November 24, 2019, 11:16:16 AM
I think some of the House Dems have realized this is a no win for them.  Their base isn't going to end up disliking Trump more, and when he is not removed by the senate, he'll spin it as "innocent", or "vindicated".  Bad News Network had a decent take on it this week, but whatever the reality on quid pro quo is, politically this cluster is helping the President.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on November 24, 2019, 11:24:46 AM
I'm shocked  :O that foriegn aid would be contingent upon certain conditions being met!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on November 24, 2019, 10:23:17 PM
I'm shocked  :O that foriegn aid would be contingent upon certain conditions being met!  :rofl:
I always thought that was amusing as well.  That is big part of any foreign policy.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 26, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
If at first you don't succeed, try try again

Quote
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler announced Tuesday afternoon he will hold his first impeachment inquiry hearing next week. This comes as he considers what articles of impeachment to draft based on "evidence" from House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.

They Won't Stop: Jerry Nadler Announces Another Impeachment Hearing With a Special Invitation
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/11/26/nadlers-turn-judiciary-to-hold-impeachment-hearing-next-week-n2557111
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on November 27, 2019, 05:16:43 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sk112719dAPR20191126094822.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: French G. on November 27, 2019, 05:23:29 PM
Can they win now? Hold no vote and issue a censure would be the quickest closure, but they would get trashed by their base and Trump.

Hold a vote and send impeachment to the senate, be a total mess for them once the narrative is not closely controlled.

Or! Hold a vote and arrange for it narrowly to fail to provide some at least you tried coverage for their members. In which case i hope the house Republicans unanimously vote to send impeachment to the senate.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: 230RN on November 28, 2019, 09:46:21 PM
Can they win now? Hold no vote and issue a censure would be the quickest closure, but they would get trashed by their base and Trump.

Hold a vote and send impeachment to the senate, be a total mess for them once the narrative is not closely controlled.

Or! Hold a vote and arrange for it narrowly to fail to provide some at least you tried coverage for their members. In which case i hope the house Republicans unanimously vote to send impeachment to the senate.

Oh, you are evil.  Evil to the core.  You should have gone into politics.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on November 29, 2019, 09:20:30 AM
https://twitter.com/flyjibs/status/1200225264392921090?s=21

One President to troll over them all
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on November 29, 2019, 09:26:32 AM
https://twitter.com/flyjibs/status/1200225264392921090?s=21

One President to troll over them all

Heh. Yeah - as per link below regarding Tday, "honest mistake". My question is: Why are 100% of the MSM "honest mistakes" negative to Trump. There has not been a single positive "honest mistake". Whether you like or dislike Trump, you have to be pretty blind not to see the overwhelming bias. Plus the eleventy billion views of the false stories and the 17 views of the corrections.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/11/29/more-like-newsweak-newsweek-journo-roasted-after-correcting-her-story-claiming-trump-spent-thanksgiving-golfing-and-tweeting/

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 01, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
Schiff is in a hurry
Oh and lets throw Russian AND Ukrainian collusion in for good measure
Quote
As Breitbart News reported Friday, House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler has previewed the report, and suggested it will include claims of “collusion” with Russia — as well as Ukraine, Russia’s enemy.


Adam Schiff Gives Democrats Only 24 Hours to Sign Impeachment Report
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/01/adam-schiff-gives-democrats-only-24-hours-to-read-impeachment-report/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 01, 2019, 03:01:19 PM
Quote
As Breitbart News reported Friday, House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler has previewed the report, and suggested it will include claims of “collusion” with Russia — as well as Ukraine, Russia’s enemy.


Yeah, make sure you get the Russia accusations in there, just to make sure the report is credible, and the impeachment is for real, non-fabricated charges.  ;/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 01, 2019, 03:14:43 PM

Adam Schiff Gives Democrats Only 24 Hours to Sign Impeachment Report
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/01/adam-schiff-gives-democrats-only-24-hours-to-read-impeachment-report/

"We'll just have to pass it to find out what's in it."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 01, 2019, 06:23:17 PM
Dems now want to "get it over with and move on", of course because public opinion is going against them.

The comment "Impeachment by focus group" is just SO apt.

https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2019/12/01/schiffting-gears-youll-never-guess-ok-you-probably-will-what-frustrated-dems-are-ready-to-do-now-on-impeachment/

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 03, 2019, 06:22:27 PM
Apparently whether or not a crime even took place is irrelevant, hang the criminal anyway  :facepalm:

Quote
   Florida Rep. Val Demings maintained that President Trump should be impeached even if the alleged quid pro quo with Ukraine never took place.

    Demings, a Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, was asked during an interview on This Week whether it was relevant to the impeachment proceedings that Trump’s request for an investigation into Joe Biden never came to fruition. Host Martha Raddatz noted that no investigation into the Bidens ever happened and Ukraine received its military aid anyway, but Demings maintained that it was irrelevant.

    “You’re going to make me go back to my law enforcement experience. I had an opportunity in 27 years to deal with a lot of people who attempted to rob a bank, attempted to burglarize a house, attempted to carjack an individual,” Demings said. “We didn’t say, ‘Well, since you weren’t successful, we caught you, you weren’t successful so let’s just let you go and forget it.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/03/the-vanishing-smoking-gun-n2557381
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 03, 2019, 10:01:02 PM
Apparently whether or not a crime even took place is irrelevant, hang the criminal anyway  :facepalm:


Was there a crime? I'm still waiting for the Ds to explain exactly what "high crime or misdemeanor" Trump is supposed to have committed. I doubt if I look through the U.S. Code and the Code of Federal Regulations that I'll find "quid pro quo" or "investigate possible favoritism by Vice President" in either code.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 04, 2019, 11:06:56 AM
The crime is that Hillary isn't president and orange man bad.
Let's get with the program.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 04, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
"Objective"

Quote
    The law professor Democrats invited to provide obviously objective and fair analysis at today's impeachment hearing once explained how she had to cross the street rather than simply walking by the Trump hotel.

    lol.pic.twitter.com/6BXMpkX5IT

    — Jason Howerton (@jason_howerton) December 4, 2019
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/04/totally-objective-and-fair-impeachment-witness-pamela-karlan-had-to-cross-the-street-to-avoid-a-trump-hotel-video/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 04, 2019, 03:53:36 PM
More Pamela Karlan

Quote
In case it weren’t already clear that today’s impeachment proceedings are a farce, check out this from witness and Stanford Law prof Pamela Karlan:

    "I am a scholar of the law of democracy." pic.twitter.com/8KZjXvJ0R0

    — Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) December 4, 2019

A what?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 04, 2019, 05:34:29 PM
This is a peach of a witness. In various stories I've read she has:

Stated (in an interview a while back) that she has to cross the street when she approaches a building with Trump's name on it.  I watched the video. No Trump bias there at all.  ;/

During testimony, says that when Trump uses "us" he means "the royal we" because he thinks he's a king.

His son Barron really isn't a baron.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeachment-hearing-witness-invokes-barron-trump

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 05, 2019, 08:31:54 AM
So from what I have seen, only catching snippets of the hearings, they had three law professors who all have documented anti-Trump biases and are staunch "dems can do no wrong" democrats. At least two of them have full blown, clinical TDS and have been calling for impeachment and making other emotional "orange man bad" remarks in resurfaced videos and social media since the election.

Only one law professor was called (by the Rs) who did not have an anti-Trump bias. I don't know if he has a "pro-Trump" bias or is unbiased. Still, three to one is a fair hearing?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 09:35:56 AM
Here we go

Quote
   BREAKING: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: "Today, I am asking our chairman to proceed with articles of impeachment." https://t.co/yMg0trFZ0O pic.twitter.com/038nBeYEdv
    — ABC News (@ABC) December 5, 2019

BREAKING: It's Official, Nancy Pelosi Calls for Articles of Impeachment Against President Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/05/pelosi-n2557536
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 05, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
And she did so making the further allusions to "King Trump", "Monarch Trump", just like the TDS law professor did yesterday. Tell me that's not coordinated PR.

The speech was heavy on "Founding Fathers", Declaration of Independence", and "King of England" stuff. Suddenly the dems are pro- Founding Fathers and pro-Constitution as written, vs "fluid document".

Oh, also - I guess being "prayerful" is also okay now.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 09:52:29 AM
Quote
"The president's actions have seriously violated the Constitution

Still waiting to hear when and how unless butt hurting libs is unconstitutional, what section is that in?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: brimic on December 05, 2019, 09:55:58 AM
Still waiting to hear when and how unless butt hurting libs is unconstitutional, what section is that in?

They confuse a sport with being unconstitutional.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 10:40:33 AM
Besides the question of what exactly did he do we have the question of how long are they going to drag this part out?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 10:49:01 AM
More on that Baron/Barron business

Quote
    A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

    — Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

Yes they should.
But
It's apparently okay to pull him in because Trump

Quote
    Two obvious points: Going after kids is rightly a nono in politics; and this first point would have more weight here, if not for the obvious: the husband of Melania who rightly calls for us to #BeBest, is too often at his absolute worst, disrespecting everyone and anyone. https://t.co/6cXD5aghzF

    — Christopher C. Cuomo (@ChrisCuomo) December 4, 2019

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/05/chris-cuomo-says-going-after-kids-is-rightly-a-nono-in-politics-but-melania-shouldnt-be-too-upset-by-pamela-karlans-lame-barron-joke-because-shes-donald-trumps-wife/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 11:52:27 AM
Don't mess with me!
video towards the end of article

'Don’t Mess With Me!: Nancy Pelosi Snaps at Reporter Who Asks If She Hates Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2019/12/05/nancy-pelosi-snaps-at-reporter-who-asks-if-she-hates-trump-dont-mess-with-me-n2557549
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 05, 2019, 12:00:37 PM
Don't mess with me!
video towards the end of article

'Don’t Mess With Me!: Nancy Pelosi Snaps at Reporter Who Asks If She Hates Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2019/12/05/nancy-pelosi-snaps-at-reporter-who-asks-if-she-hates-trump-dont-mess-with-me-n2557549
So that would be a "yes".
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 12:29:01 PM
This Baron/Barron stuff found a new low

Quote
Cheri Jacobus

@CheriJacobus
Replying to @FLOTUS

Sure, Pumpkin.  Let's not exploit kids like you and your husband did after this baby's parents were gunned down because the GOP is addicted to blood money from the NRA, you ghoulish hypocrite.
View image on Twitter
23.3K
5:17 PM - Dec 4, 2019

And then Jacobus digs the hole a bit deeper after a reply to that

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/12/05/yikes-ville-cheri-jacobus-attacks-melania-for-defending-barron-then-fully-melts-down-when-called-out-by-jessica-fletcher/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 05, 2019, 01:07:35 PM
Don't mess with me!
video towards the end of article

'Don’t Mess With Me!: Nancy Pelosi Snaps at Reporter Who Asks If She Hates Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2019/12/05/nancy-pelosi-snaps-at-reporter-who-asks-if-she-hates-trump-dont-mess-with-me-n2557549

Trump responds

Quote
    Nancy Pelosi just had a nervous fit. She hates that we will soon have 182 great new judges and sooo much more. Stock Market and employment records. She says she “prays for the President.” I don’t believe her, not even close. Help the homeless in your district Nancy. USMCA?

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 5, 2019

 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 06, 2019, 11:26:30 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv120419dAPR20191204034530.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 06, 2019, 01:55:32 PM
More on that Baron/Barron business

Yes they should.
But
It's apparently okay to pull him in because Trump

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/05/chris-cuomo-says-going-after-kids-is-rightly-a-nono-in-politics-but-melania-shouldnt-be-too-upset-by-pamela-karlans-lame-barron-joke-because-shes-donald-trumps-wife/


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/04/pamela-karlan-apologizes-for-invoking-barron-trump-but-urges-president-to-say-sorry-too/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Prof. Pamela Karlan Forced to ‘Apologize' for Mocking Barron Trump

I also remember hearing that lady was on the short list of Supreme Court nominations if Hillary had been elected.  Thankfully we avoided that.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 06, 2019, 02:49:06 PM

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/04/pamela-karlan-apologizes-for-invoking-barron-trump-but-urges-president-to-say-sorry-too/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Prof. Pamela Karlan Forced to ‘Apologize' for Mocking Barron Trump


Not much of an apology:

Quote
Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that."

I don't consider that an unconditional apology. That's virtue signaling masquerading as an apology. "See, I'm a better person than Trump. I can apologize, but he won't."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 06, 2019, 03:44:41 PM
Not much of an apology:

I don't consider that an unconditional apology. That's virtue signaling masquerading as an apology. "See, I'm a better person than Trump. I can apologize, but he won't."

Everything I've heard or read that comes out of her mouth indicates she is an arrogant, selfish, hateful, and just all around awful person.

The idea that she might have been a Supreme Court justice is almost horrifying.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 06, 2019, 03:59:00 PM
Everything I've heard or read that comes out of her mouth indicates she is an arrogant, selfish, hateful, and just all around awful person.

The idea that she might have been a Supreme Court justice is almost horrifying.
You got that right.  Courts full of partisan hacks like that would do a pretty good job of destroying our country as we know it.  I think about all the bad court precedent we have now.  It would get much worse.  The letter of the law would be meaningless. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 06, 2019, 04:00:27 PM
I think they might have him now!

https://babylonbee.com/news/bombshell-report-reveals-trump-been-mooching-off-pences-netflix-account-this-whole-time
Bombshell Report Reveals Trump Has Been Mooching Off Pence's Netflix Account For Years

Quote
"This is clearly an impeachable offense," said an unbiased constitutional scholar working at the Destroy Donald Trump Foundation, testifying before the House Judiciary Committee. "Trump has offered Pence a clear quid pro quo, granting him the VP role in exchange for access to Stranger Things, Breaking Bad, and The Office."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 08, 2019, 08:46:41 AM
I think they might have him now!

https://babylonbee.com/news/bombshell-report-reveals-trump-been-mooching-off-pences-netflix-account-this-whole-time
Bombshell Report Reveals Trump Has Been Mooching Off Pence's Netflix Account For Years


Obviously false; The Gorilla Channel isn't on Netflix.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 09, 2019, 09:10:54 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/pelosi-clarifies-shes-not-one-of-those-anti-baby-murder-catholics
Pelosi Clarifies She's Not One Of Those Extremist, Anti-Baby-Murder Catholics

Quote
"I'm a Catholic, but not one of those fringe, extremist, anti-baby-murder Catholics," she said. "I'm the more mainstream, kill-your-baby-any-time-you-want kind of Catholic. I base my beliefs on the teachings of Christ, who called us to love everybody except the preborn who can't protect themselves. Obviously they're excluded."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2019, 09:43:30 AM
Two charges filed, obstruction of Congress and abuse of power

Quote
Democrats claim the abuse of power stems from President Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine about corruption investigations. The obstruction charge, they argue, is justified due to the White House blocking witnesses from testifying. Keep in mind Schiff and Nadler could have gone to the courts to compel witnesses and in a rush to impeach, refused.

BREAKING: Democrats Officially File Articles of Impeachment, Here are the Charges
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/10/impeachment-articles-n2557743
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 10, 2019, 10:04:52 AM
Two charges filed, obstruction of Congress and abuse of power

BREAKING: Democrats Officially File Articles of Impeachment, Here are the Charges
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/10/impeachment-articles-n2557743

Well, I guess Trump doesn't need to spend any more money on his 2020 campaign, because this will probably make him a shoe-in.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2019, 10:06:49 AM
The feeling is settled
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: charby on December 10, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
At my Tuesday weekly pre-work coffee group, the whole impeachment process was brought up, the group is mix of political beliefs but we get along well and can discuss about anything without shouting. One of the folks is a campaign manager for a national office candidate.

They asked me what I thought, I said this has been a sh*t show from the start, everyone agreed with me, even the real liberal democrats. They said it was a sh*t show because of how quickly and shoddy it has been done and basically any future president is screwed regardless of party for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on December 10, 2019, 11:38:17 AM
At my Tuesday weekly pre-work coffee group, the whole impeachment process was brought up, the group is mix of political beliefs but we get along well and can discuss about anything without shouting. One of the folks is a campaign manager for a national office candidate.

They asked me what I thought, I said this has been a sh*t show from the start, everyone agreed with me, even the real liberal democrats. They said it was a sh*t show because of how quickly and shoddy it has been done and basically any future president is screwed regardless of party for the foreseeable future.

History of Rome podcast recently revived (because the originator has a book out) and talked about how norm-breaking works out, given the constant retaliation with breaking further norms.

The Democrats were warned about this crap. It appears they have no desire to step back from the brink, despite whining about how the last breaking of norms really hurt them now that they don't have power as a minority in the Senate. (The murder turtle smiles (https://gph.is/1sGpXXY).)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2019, 12:56:47 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz121019dAPR20191210094508.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 10, 2019, 01:44:39 PM
History of Rome podcast recently revived (because the originator has a book out) and talked about how norm-breaking works out, given the constant retaliation with breaking further norms.

The Democrats were warned about this crap. It appears they have no desire to step back from the brink, despite whining about how the last breaking of norms really hurt them now that they don't have power as a minority in the Senate. (The murder turtle smiles (https://gph.is/1sGpXXY).)
That is a good point.  Our system works (sort of) because if people don't like it, they wait for the next election and our system is not designed to allow the minority party some power.  However, if the new "process" is to impeach whoever gets elected, that will change things.  We will never be able to function with Congress in the hands of one party and the President from a different party.

I also worry about these wackos who protest and harrass elected officials at their homes and in public.  What happens when elected officials fear for their lives after they are no longer in office?  These people talk about officials refusing to give up power.  That is how that happens.  That is what happened with Julius Caesar in part.  He knew if he gave up his army, he would be prosecuted and executed so he crossed the Rubicon.  The Roman Republic was pretty much already dead, but that is a good example.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 10, 2019, 02:47:17 PM
MechAg, why would protesting officials make them fearful of what happens when they're out of power?

Keep in mind that a well-known tactic of colonial-era patriots was to intimidate people out of taking controversial govt. jobs.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 10, 2019, 03:14:15 PM
Two charges filed, obstruction of Congress and abuse of power

BREAKING: Democrats Officially File Articles of Impeachment, Here are the Charges
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/10/impeachment-articles-n2557743

I'm not sure how much of a difference this will make to voters, or in terms of "dividing the country." It may be, legally, something the Democrats are doing for the first time, but in real-world terms, it's just another avatar of the Get Trump campaign they've been running since the election. They tried to pressure the Electoral College. They had a Special Counsel. They trotted out one faux scandal after another. They had a bunch of shrinks declare him unfit. They floated the 25th amendment thing. Somebody even tried to have him impeached by petition. So what's new here?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 10, 2019, 07:56:42 PM
MechAg, why would protesting officials make them fearful of what happens when they're out of power?

Keep in mind that a well-known tactic of colonial-era patriots was to intimidate people out of taking controversial govt. jobs.
I guess I am concerned that the left's tactics continue to escalate. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 10, 2019, 08:22:08 PM
I'm a little surprised the antifa clowns haven't escalated to throwing molotov cocktails at the subjects of their angst.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 10, 2019, 08:33:04 PM
I'm a little surprised the antifa clowns haven't escalated to throwing molotov cocktails at the subjects of their angst.

Wait till the day after the election
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 11, 2019, 09:13:53 AM
Guess who they blame   :facepalm:

Cue The Eye Rolls: MSNBC Panel Knows Why Trump Impeachment Polling Hasn’t Moved
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/11/cue-the-eye-rolls-msnbc-panel-knows-why-trump-impeachment-polling-hasnt-moved-n2557811
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 11, 2019, 09:37:48 AM
Guess who they blame   :facepalm:

Cue The Eye Rolls: MSNBC Panel Knows Why Trump Impeachment Polling Hasn’t Moved
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/11/cue-the-eye-rolls-msnbc-panel-knows-why-trump-impeachment-polling-hasnt-moved-n2557811
Press charges against them for Obstruction of Congress.  =)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 11, 2019, 09:02:50 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/trumps-popularity-rises-after-revelation-he-obstructed-congress
Trump's Popularity Surges After Nation Learns He May Have Obstructed Congress

Quote
"Any president who stops Congress from doing their jobs is a hero in my book," said one voter in Ohio. "I wasn't sure I supported Trump at first, but when the Dems accused him of hindering Congress, I boarded the Trump train immediately."

"ALL ABOARD! CHOO CHOO! MAGA!" he yelled, donning his brand-new MAGA hat.

At publishing time, Trump was looking for ways to obstruct both the judicial and executive branches, further increasing his popularity.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 11, 2019, 10:19:14 PM
Yeah, but wait 'til he obstructs HOAs.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2019, 08:25:52 AM
So I watched an unedited clip of Ted Cruz directly asking, "Did the FBI falsify records to obtain a FISA warrant?" Answer, "Yes".

Is this not akin to you getting pulled over, and a cop planting heroin in your car? If found out, aren't you immediately cleared (even if you're a known heroin dealer, let alone innocent) and the cop, and maybe his department, brought up on charges?

One would think direct evidence such as this would end things immediately, but instead, we have Nadler saying, "We have to impeach no matter what - we can't let this go until the next election." Implying that Trump would win the election. We are clearly in Third World territory at this point, where citizens "can't be trusted" to do what an entrenched government wants.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 12, 2019, 09:50:53 AM
Says to me that they feel that if they can't remove Trump from office By Hook Or By Crook then 2020 is a lost cause for the dems

Quote
"We cannot rely on an election to solve our problems when the president threatens the very integrity of that election," Nadler said during his opening statement. "Nor can we sit on our hands while the President undermines our national security—and while he allows his personal interests and the interests of our adversary Russia to advance."

Still beating that Russian drum. But wait, I thought he was conspiring with the Ukrainians now? Make up your minds!

Jerry Nadler Just Said We Can't 'Trust an Election' to Get Rid of President Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/12/jerry-nadler-just-said-we-cant-trust-an-election-to-get-rid-of-president-trump-n2557874
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 12, 2019, 11:09:36 AM
Says to me that they feel that if they can't remove Trump from office By Hook Or By Crook then 2020 is a lost cause for the dems

Still beating that Russian drum. But wait, I thought he was conspiring with the Ukrainians now? Make up your minds!

Jerry Nadler Just Said We Can't 'Trust an Election' to Get Rid of President Trump
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/12/jerry-nadler-just-said-we-cant-trust-an-election-to-get-rid-of-president-trump-n2557874

That comment alone should scare the hell out of every American. Congress has decided they get to choose who gets to hold office.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2019, 11:19:39 AM
That comment alone should scare the hell out of every American. Congress has decided they get to choose who gets to hold office.

Also, at this point, is there any reason that when the next Democrat president is elected, R's should not start impeachment proceedings the day after that president is sworn in? I mean, this is kinda where we are - elections don't count if you don't like the winner.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2019, 11:23:50 AM
Also, very interesting timelapse video of the first hour of the FISA and impeachment hearings. Pretty hard to defend MSM regarding bias and editing after watching it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1204880963676848129
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on December 12, 2019, 11:32:39 AM
Also, at this point, is there any reason that when the next Democrat president is elected, R's should not start impeachment proceedings the day after that president is sworn in? I mean, this is kinda where we are - elections don't count if you don't like the winner.

Isn't the general consensus that this circus will hurt the Democrats more than it helps them?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 12, 2019, 11:38:08 AM
Isn't the general consensus that this circus will hurt the Democrats more than it helps them?

Yes, but R's are also known for doing things that hurt them more than help. And really, it's not about Ds vs Rs - it's about a country going in a direction where elections don't matter if enough people and people in positions of influence don't like the results. Again, this is Third World territory.

I had to suck it up for eight years of Obama, and various other dems before him. I found many of their policies ran from irritating to abhorrent.  My side lost though, and we had to suck it up until the next election, and when the dem won that one, we had to suck it up again. Also, FTR, I was not in favor of impeaching Clinton. That also could have been handled at the ballot box.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 12, 2019, 06:46:34 PM
Also, very interesting timelapse video of the first hour of the FISA and impeachment hearings. Pretty hard to defend MSM regarding bias and editing after watching it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1204880963676848129
I heard in one of the hearings CNN was pulling out when R's were asking questions and returning when Dem's did.  Pretty ridiculous bias.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on December 12, 2019, 08:35:30 PM
Isn't the general consensus that this circus will hurt the Democrats more than it helps them?

The leftists have pretty much been running the table against the right for decades.

Half of those on "the right" aren't even really on the right.

They are the "not so fast" progressives who think they are conservative but are kidding themselves.

Sometimes they call themselves libertarians.

Never underestimate leftists.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on December 13, 2019, 01:25:16 PM
Also, FTR, I was not in favor of impeaching Clinton. That also could have been handled at the ballot box.

Which Clinton?
Quote from: https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2016/08/01/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-disqualify-her/
If the government were functioning properly, Congress would impeach Hillary Clinton, not refer her misconduct to the same administration that indulged it in the first place.
:laugh: :lol: :laugh:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 14, 2019, 08:51:08 AM
Which Clinton?

The only one who ever got elected President. :)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 14, 2019, 08:54:37 AM
Interesting in the "What is "is"?" vein.

Several dems (along with that awful, awful Stanford woman) have been pushing the "Trump thinks he's a king" line. It apparently stems from the statement quoted here, which in full context, is obviously referring to the United States of America, not some "royal we" bullpucky. The lying here is atrocious.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-cnn-fact-check-democrats-misquoted-call-zelensky-mark-up-escobar-jackson-lee
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 17, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-democrats-vow-to-continue-impeachment-investigations-regardless-of-senate-outcome?itm_source=parsely-api

At first I thought I was reading The Babylon Bee.

Nope.

They're serious.

Five more years of "impeachment inquiry", hooray!
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 17, 2019, 12:23:53 PM
Rename CSPAN the Impeachment Channel. All Impeachment, All the Time.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 17, 2019, 04:00:52 PM
(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-5287-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2019, 11:46:01 AM
Noticed a lot of news sites have the word "historic" in their impeachment vote article headlines just like whenever Obama did anything it was always "HISTORIC!"

Getting some popcorn ready for the libs reaction when they find out Trump is still president after they vote for impeachment. But he was impeached!  :rofl:  I would say something like 90%+ have zero clue what impeachment actually means
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 18, 2019, 01:20:55 PM
I think they're just misspelling histeric.  Like somebody snuck in and tampered with their spell check dictionary.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2019, 07:46:07 PM
Could it be they're getting cold feet at the last minute because they maybe they have realized how foolish they're going to look in the Senate?

Quote
    This seems nuts. Republicans are supposed to be pressured into begging for an impeachment trial? From WP: 'Some House Democrats push Pelosi to withhold impeachment articles, delay Senate trial.' pic.twitter.com/HXjRDsFm8b

    — Byron York (@ByronYork) December 18, 2019

‘This seems nuts’: Byron York weighs in on the House possibly withholding the articles of impeachment
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/18/this-seems-nuts-byron-york-weighs-in-on-the-house-possibly-withholding-the-articles-of-impeachment/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 18, 2019, 08:57:31 PM
Well, the house just voted to impeach with minutes to spare in the session.

Now, as pointed out above, the dems want to try and put it on the backburner and drag it out, apparently in hopes of getting a senate majority next year, then voting in the senate. It's a travesty.  I say again, from now on, whenever a dem is elected president and we don't like it, we need to start impeachment the day after they're sworn in, because apparently voting no longer counts in this country.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2019, 08:57:44 PM
Quote
After nearly 12 hours of debate on the House floor Wednesday, Democrats voted to approve articles of impeachment against President Trump. The vote on the Article I, abuse of power, came down 230-197-1 (present). The second vote on Article II, obstruction of Congress, is ongoing.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/12/18/impeachment-vote-n2558216
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 18, 2019, 09:32:43 PM

https://babylonbee.com/news/the-bee-explains-impeachment

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 18, 2019, 10:03:43 PM
Remember this was a somber event that dems only undertook with heavy hearts.

While Pelosi silences the claps, she herself looks like she's trying not to smile.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/18/so-solemn-speaker-nancy-pelosi-has-to-hush-democrats-from-cheering-trumps-impeachment/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 18, 2019, 10:44:27 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/several-democrats-defect-impeachment-gop-holds-together

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Reps. Jeff Van Drew, D-N.J., and Collin Peterson, D-Minn., voted against both articles of impeachment. Rep. Jared Golden, D-Maine, voted in favor of impeaching Trump on abuse of power, but not on obstruction of Congress.

Another Democrat, presidential candidate and Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, voted "present" on both impeachment resolutions.

Interesting decision on Gabbard's part.  Trying to walk a tightrope?

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: BobR on December 18, 2019, 10:49:11 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/several-democrats-defect-impeachment-gop-holds-together

Interesting decision on Gabbard's part.  Trying to walk a tightrope?



Cowardice, a Dem trying to be a Republican, at least that is how my friends from Hawaii see her.

bob
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 18, 2019, 10:50:01 PM
Well, the house just voted to impeach with minutes to spare in the session.

Now, as pointed out above, the dems want to try and put it on the backburner and drag it out, apparently in hopes of getting a senate majority next year, then voting in the senate. It's a travesty.  I say again, from now on, whenever a dem is elected president and we don't like it, we need to start impeachment the day after they're sworn in, because apparently voting no longer counts in this country.

What would that accomplish? Are they conceding the election to Trump?

It raises an interesting point, in my mind: The President serves a term of four years. He can be re-elected for an additional four-year term, but it's a new term, and he takes the oath of office for a second time if he (or she) wins a second term. Therefore, it's a new presidency. Can the new President be removed from office for alleged high crimes or misdemeanors supposedly committed during the preceding term? Are articles of impeachment adopted by a former House still valid after the makeup of the House and the Senate have changed?

The Constitution doesn't appear to have an answer:

Quote
Article 2, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

I think if I really parse it down to basics, "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." Misdeeds in one term don't carry forward to allow removal from a second term. After all, if Trump were to not run and Pence were elected President, the articles of impeachment would be null and void upon the swearing in of the new President. Why is that not the case if the new President happens to have the same name as the previous President?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Andiron on December 18, 2019, 10:56:42 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/several-democrats-defect-impeachment-gop-holds-together

Interesting decision on Gabbard's part.  Trying to walk a tightrope?



That's Obama level chickenshit.  The Dem establishment already hates her,  I can't see that being beneficial to her goals.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on December 18, 2019, 10:57:29 PM
I say again, from now on, whenever a dem is elected president and we don't like it, we need to start impeachment the day after they're sworn in, because apparently voting no longer counts in this country.

No no no.

First we riot in the streets, smash windows, commit arson, loot shops, and assault innocent people.

Then we try to muck around with the Electoral College, pressure the faithless electors to switch their votes.

Then we try to get the President removed via the 25th Amendment.

Then we impeach.

If you're going to follow the Left's playbook, you have to follow all of it.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2019, 11:05:58 PM
Not my impeachment
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2019, 11:11:56 PM
Sigh

Quote
   Fifty years from now, if you're still alive and have grandkids, they'll ask what it was like the night the House of Representatives had to impeach a President of the United States for violating his Oath of Office, threatening U.S. national security, and undermining our democracy.

    — Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) December 19, 2019
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/18/newsweek-columnist-imagining-grandchildren-50-years-from-now-asking-about-trumps-impeachment/

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   I expected this moment but I expected to be more joyful. Maybe jump up & do a happy dance. Maybe.

    But I’m just sad and heartbroken. What he’s left behind can’t be erased with this vote.

    The bigotry and xenophobia he’s emboldened. The lies.

    It will take generations to recover.

    — Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) December 19, 2019
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/18/alyssa-milanos-just-sad-and-heartbroken-it-will-take-generations-to-recover-from-president-trump/

She apparently thinks he just got removed from office. I want to be the one to tell her
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: BobR on December 18, 2019, 11:25:54 PM
Sigh
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/18/newsweek-columnist-imagining-grandchildren-50-years-from-now-asking-about-trumps-impeachment/
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/18/alyssa-milanos-just-sad-and-heartbroken-it-will-take-generations-to-recover-from-president-trump/

She apparently thinks he just got removed from office. I want to be the one to tell her

Because just maybe somewhere in her small reptilian brain a couple of synapses have fired and she "knows" this is not the end, she just can't make herself say it. :)

bob
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 18, 2019, 11:41:48 PM
More games
She knows it will die in the senate

Quote
   Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned the House may not immediately transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate out of concerns Republicans won't conduct impartial proceedings at a trial.

    Pelosi refused to commit to any timeline for sending the articles, which is required to begin the impeachment trial.

    "So far, we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us," Pelosi told reporters shortly after the House approved two articles of impeachment against Trump. "But right now, the president is impeached."

    Well, that’s not your call, Nancy. Your party is not the majority in the senate. We’re the majority. And we’re going to end this clown show. The longer you hang onto this the more popular Trump becomes and the more key swing states Democrats need to win in 2020 fall further out of reach. So, please, keep playing this game. Oh, and removing Trump from office requires 67 Senators. This just isn’t in the works.
EXTORTION: Nancy Pelosi Threatens to Withhold Impeachment Articles from Senate Republicans
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/18/extortion-nancy-pelosi-threatens-to-withhold-impeachment-articles-from-senate-republicans-n2558266
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 18, 2019, 11:54:39 PM
More games
She knows it will die in the senate
EXTORTION: Nancy Pelosi Threatens to Withhold Impeachment Articles from Senate Republicans
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/18/extortion-nancy-pelosi-threatens-to-withhold-impeachment-articles-from-senate-republicans-n2558266

I kind of wonder if that would accomplish anything.  This impeachment stuff has increased Trump's approval and donations.  It seems to me that allowing it to drag on and fester isn't going to hurt him.  Also, it would be pretty apparent that she is the one holding things up.  I am just not seeing how this helps her. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: sumpnz on December 19, 2019, 12:33:42 AM
More games
She knows it will die in the senate
EXTORTION: Nancy Pelosi Threatens to Withhold Impeachment Articles from Senate Republicans
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/12/18/extortion-nancy-pelosi-threatens-to-withhold-impeachment-articles-from-senate-republicans-n2558266

We should impeach her for Obstruction of the Senate.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: griz on December 19, 2019, 07:12:54 AM
We should impeach her for Obstruction of the Senate.

Either that or have the Senate acquit the defendant for failure of the prosecution to present a case.  You know, speedy trial, like it says in that constitution thing that was so important yesterday.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 08:26:00 AM
"Not fair to us". Just like the election. They lost, so it wasn't fair. It's only a fair process if they have a guaranteed win in the Senate.

I don't want to jinx it, but I can't help but think Trump is going to end up with a Reagan-like win in 2020.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: BobR on December 19, 2019, 08:37:27 AM
"Not fair to us". Just like the election. They lost, so it wasn't fair. It's only a fair process if they have a guaranteed win in the Senate.

I don't want to jinx it, but I can't help but think Trump is going to end up with a Reagan-like win in 2020.

The longer she waits the more it looks like a frivolous prosecution. That in turn will anger some people, it will probably anger more than it mollifies and while it may not be a Reagan-like win I think it will still be epic. She thought she was between a rock and a hard spot before, now it is between two steel plates and the augers are moving them closer together. While disgusted at the behaviour  of the Dems I am also kind of looking forward to the next few days.

bob
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 09:27:11 AM
"For the billionth time! Reporters don't root for a side!" Get it through your heads stupid redneck flyover country!

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/12/19/democracy-dies-at-happy-hour-wapos-rachael-bade-tweets-pic-of-wapo-team-celebrating-impeachmas-tries-deleting/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on December 19, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
Impeachment is a bit historic since it hasn't happened that often, but when it there was never proof of any crime/misdemeanor brought forward and there was a never any hope it would be approved in the Senate, it is a bit hollow and empty.  I don't see where it is something to celebrate. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: K Frame on December 19, 2019, 09:49:28 AM
I can't, even with my most feverish thoughts, figure out how she believes that this would be any kind of leverage against the Senate at all.

Polls aren't exactly trending their way, and the more she waits the more it's going to look like exactly what we all know it is.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 10:06:22 AM
Somber. Serious.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/12/19/totally-somber-and-sad-rashida-tlaib-shares-video-of-herself-joyously-bragging-about-going-to-impeach-trump-watch/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2019, 11:35:16 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb121919dAPR20191219044515.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2019, 11:45:06 AM
"Not fair to us". Just like the election. They lost, so it wasn't fair. It's only a fair process if they have a guaranteed win in the Senate.

I don't want to jinx it, but I can't help but think Trump is going to end up with a Reagan-like win in 2020.

I would say that as of right now it's 80/20 in favor of that. But don't forget Hillary was ordering new carpet for the WH the morning of Nov 8 2016
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2019, 01:07:30 PM
Hang him!

Quote
Listen to what Majority Whip James Clyburn just said about Trump:

"Let's give him a fair trial, and hang him". pic.twitter.com/HTiCne7Q7C

— Benny (@bennyjohnson) December 19, 2019
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/19/violent-rhetoric-alert-dem-rep-james-clyburn-on-donald-trumps-impeachment-lets-give-him-a-fair-trial-and-hang-him-video/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 01:09:16 PM
Hang him!
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/19/violent-rhetoric-alert-dem-rep-james-clyburn-on-donald-trumps-impeachment-lets-give-him-a-fair-trial-and-hang-him-video/

I was almost going to post that, but when I listened to it, it appears someone did some editing. I'd like to hear the whole thing in context.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: bedlamite on December 19, 2019, 01:14:04 PM
(https://www.msgo.com/attachments/c6d39a1a00bacbf18f080051a87e1b4491b517d629e4159ba699a9790ee7dc80-2-_li-jpg.184283/)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2019, 01:16:08 PM
I was almost going to post that, but when I listened to it, it appears someone did some editing. I'd like to hear the whole thing in context.

To be sure need to hear what he said a few seconds before the video starts.

Anyhow, he did clearly state he's for holding the articles of impeachment indefinitely until they get want they want out of Mc.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: K Frame on December 19, 2019, 01:20:56 PM
Apparently there was tons of hooting and drumming and virtual signaling from various elements of the media... All of whom are studiously unbiased, of course...

They don't seem to comprehend that, in the grand scheme of things, impeaching Trump means absolutely nothing, and might very well backfire on them spectacularly.

They're apparently too overwhelmed by the moment of glorious joy to see their funeral pyre blazing gloriously in the distance.

When Trump is cleared by the Senate (and that's IF Nancy has the guts to actually move the articles to the Senate), is Rachel Maddow going to go on air and cry again?

Is woman (oh god, I'm assuming gender!) from the post going to post a picture of the funeral of their hopes and dreams?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-impeachment-media-reaction-reelection

This is all starting to get very, very interesting...
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: K Frame on December 19, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
"Anyhow, he did clearly state he's for holding the articles of impeachment indefinitely until they get want they want out of Mc."

Oh please, please PLEASE let them do that...

Not the getting what they want, part... the holding part... Again, I can't see how they can even remotely think that holding the articles helps them.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2019, 01:30:11 PM
We're not going to release the prisoner to the court until we're given a guarantee he will be found guilty and hung for robbing the bank despite the fact no money was found on him and the bank isn't missing any money
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 19, 2019, 01:53:05 PM
We're not going to release the prisoner to the court until we're given a guarantee he will be found guilty and hung for robbing the bank despite the fact no money was found on him and the bank isn't missing any money

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 19, 2019, 02:15:01 PM
We're not going to release the prisoner to the court until we're given a guarantee he will be found guilty and hung for robbing the bank despite the fact no money was found on him and the bank isn't missing any money

Except that there's no prisoner to release to the court. He hasn't been arrested, he's not in custody, and there's no bail.

I think the D's in the House are idiots. The House and the Senate are separate chambers of the Congress. The House has done its thing -- they don't get to tell the Senate how to do the Senate's thing.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 03:50:56 PM
I thought the dems and MSM were suddenly in love with the Constitution and Founding Fathers. Now they're back to hating those stupid evil white men and their Republic:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/12/19/wapo-analysis-returns-to-previous-spin-now-that-house-dems-are-done-wrapping-themselves-in-the-constitution-on-behalf-of-founders-and-republic/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 19, 2019, 04:14:57 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb121919dAPR20191219044515.jpg)

That's spot on, and not just with impeachment. That's the Left's attitude toward the Constitution, America in general, Christianity, science, racial equality and everything else. They're staunch defenders of all those things, when they're not busy destroying them.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 19, 2019, 04:20:57 PM
I thought the dems and MSM were suddenly in love with the Constitution and Founding Fathers. Now they're back to hating those stupid evil white men and their Republic:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/12/19/wapo-analysis-returns-to-previous-spin-now-that-house-dems-are-done-wrapping-themselves-in-the-constitution-on-behalf-of-founders-and-republic/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/08/20/project-far-right-fear-history/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-electoral-college/2012/11/02/2d45c526-1f85-11e2-afca-58c2f5789c5d_story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/how-the-electoral-college-gerrymanders-the-presidential-vote/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 05:51:51 PM
Well, Hoyer just announced that the most urgent and critical event in US history will be put off until after January 7th. They've all gotta get home for Christmas non-secular diversity time.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on December 19, 2019, 09:22:58 PM
So apparently if the articles of impeachment aren't sent to the Senate technically the President wasn't impeached...

The House has voted to impeach him but hasn't actually performed the final stage of impeachment.

Seriously, banana republic clown world politics.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 19, 2019, 09:41:44 PM
So I guess they want to start setting Pence up so they can impeach him when he becomes President after they get rid of Trump. At least according to their plan, which is blowing up in their faces. At any rate it maybe tells you it's not just about Trump, but about dems not accepting lost elections.

Tinfoil firmly in place, I will say that in the extremely, extremely, extremely small chance that they could remove Trump, if they immediately tried to impeach Pence, it might be "Sun's out, guns out" time.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/19/rep-adam-schiff-has-more-evidence-this-time-implicating-mike-pence-in-ukraine-scandal/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on December 19, 2019, 10:05:36 PM
So I guess they want to start setting Pence up so they can impeach him when he becomes President after they get rid of Trump. At least according to their plan, which is blowing up in their faces. At any rate it maybe tells you it's not just about Trump, but about dems not accepting lost elections.

Tinfoil firmly in place, I will say that in the extremely, extremely, extremely small chance that they could remove Trump, if they immediately tried to impeach Pence, it might be "Sun's out, guns out" time.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/19/rep-adam-schiff-has-more-evidence-this-time-implicating-mike-pence-in-ukraine-scandal/

Guns out against who?

The public face of the powers that be are nearly untouchable and the ones calling the shots behind the scenes are unknown.

We don't want to be puppits manipulated to fight other puppets.

For example, county sheriff's with locals fighting against National guardsmen is a fight missing the actual real enemy.

What if the real enemy said "why don't you and him fight" and "you and him" said nah... don't think so?




 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 19, 2019, 10:47:23 PM
I'd love to see them hold the articles of impeachment until after the election, and then have them try to kick Trump out of office after the inauguration for the next term. I can see Trump's response now:

"Impeach me? For what? Those articles are for the former President Trump. I'm the new President Trump -- those don't apply to me."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: sumpnz on December 19, 2019, 11:05:03 PM
I'd love to see them hold the articles of impeachment until after the election, and then have them try to kick Trump out of office after the inauguration for the next term. I can see Trump's response now:

"Impeach me? For what? Those articles are for the former President Trump. I'm the new President Trump -- those don't apply to me."

The D's would only try that if they were somehow able to retake the majority in the Senate.  That way they could at least control the process and narrative.  They'd still fail to convict since they'd have to hold all of their own seats (including Alabama) plus swing 20 of the 23 Senate seat the R's have up or they'd still be short of the 67 needed to convict.  No way they get there without massive, and probably blatant fraud.  Their normal level of fraud might make a 1-2 seat net swing.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 19, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
 Their normal level of fraud might make a 1-2 seat net swing.

I expect the dems to do everything they can to make the 2020 election more normal than normal
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: K Frame on December 20, 2019, 07:50:56 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, and I could be, those articles of impeachment DIE when the current Congress ends on 21 January 2021.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Chester32141 on December 20, 2019, 08:07:23 AM
Impeachment as a Means to An End, and Not The End Itself …    

The author believes the impeachment was a ploy to get the Mueller grand jury material to use against the President in the campaign.

""The original lower court ruling approved the HJC (House Judiciary Committee) request but limited the scope of the material to only that which Mueller included in his final report.  So it’s not accidental that Nadler’s crew shaped an “obstruction” article considering two-thirds of Mueller’s report was structured around… wait for it…. yep, obstruction.""

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/19/impeachment-as-a-means-to-an-end-and-not-the-end-itself/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Pb on December 20, 2019, 09:35:05 AM
Christianity Today has now come out declaring the President should be removed:   ;/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 20, 2019, 09:45:38 AM
Christianity Today has now come out declaring the President should be removed:   ;/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

Did they give a reason because I'm still waiting on the House to give one?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on December 20, 2019, 09:46:02 AM
Christianity Today has now come out declaring the President should be removed:   ;/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

Sad that the one carrying on a legacy of Billy Graham is such a fool.

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But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral.

That is NOT unambiguous. It is, in fact, the issue most people have and BECAUSE:

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And, no, Mr. Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the House hearings on impeachment.

YOU ARE A GREAT FOOL, Mr. Galli, because the issue of President Trump's MOTIVATION is not clear and that is undoubtedly BECAUSE the Democrats did not want to give him a chance to argue his side.

You are blinded by LIES, Mr. Galli.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 20, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: BTR
Christianity Today has now come out declaring the President should be removed:   rolleyes

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html
Did they give a reason because I'm still waiting on the House to give one?

Orange man bad.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 20, 2019, 12:46:54 PM
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Harry Enten explains on CNN that Trump is suddenly surging in the general election polls.

Alisyn Camerota responds, “Do we have any sense why?”

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
pic.twitter.com/gOFEjcN09o
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/12/20/its-a-mystery-cnn-host-asks-analyst-if-he-has-any-sense-why-latest-poll-shows-massive-movement-toward-trump/

(https://i.imgflip.com/1cqcvr.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 20, 2019, 04:58:43 PM
(https://oi1179.photobucket.com/albums/x383/WLJohnson1/Politics/EMP48aNWoAEwkrP_zpsgsotvpoe.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 23, 2019, 09:09:32 AM
Schiff and the dems has been going about this all the wrong way. Alyssa Milano knows what to do

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    This is what I’m going to do starting tomorrow morning. JOIN ME.

    Upon waking, lay in shavasana (look it up), set your alarm for 7 minutes.

    Say this mantra: Believe in believing. The impossible is possible.

    And then out loud say, “we’d like to create a changing of the guard.

    — Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) December 22, 2019
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/22/alyssa-milano-has-a-new-way-to-get-president-trump-out-of-office-and-it-only-takes-7-minutes-day/

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 23, 2019, 09:20:22 AM
Starting this morning, I'm going to start chanting "MAGA MAGA MAGA" for eight minutes.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: fifth_column on December 23, 2019, 11:07:54 AM
Schiff and the dems has been going about this all the wrong way. Alyssa Milano knows what to do
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/22/alyssa-milano-has-a-new-way-to-get-president-trump-out-of-office-and-it-only-takes-7-minutes-day/



“Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said. 'One can't believe impossible things.'

I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. . . .”

― Lewis Carroll

We are officially through the looking glass . . . .
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 23, 2019, 12:14:15 PM
What's even sadder and scary about that is they're the ones who want to lecture us on how the "science" is settled.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: HankB on December 23, 2019, 12:18:40 PM
Nancy: "Unless Mitch jumps through the hoops I demand, I WON'T be sending him something he doesn't need or want!"

Mitch:  :rofl:

Nancy is behaving like she thinks she's a schoolmarm threatening to withhold a holiday homework assignment if the kids in her class don't ask her nicely for more work . . .  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: griz on December 23, 2019, 03:36:54 PM
Nancy: "Unless Mitch jumps through the hoops I demand, I WON'T be sending him something he doesn't need or want!"

Mitch:  :rofl:

Nancy is behaving like she thinks she's a schoolmarm threatening to withhold a holiday homework assignment if the kids in her class don't ask her nicely for more work . . .  :facepalm:

And if that doesn't work she's going to hold her breath until she turns blue.  Ironically, she'll turn red first.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 23, 2019, 04:27:57 PM
And if that doesn't work she's going to hold her breath until she turns blue.  Ironically, she'll turn red first.

And if the Senate doesn't play ball this time around (if this time ever comes around), now the House is saying they'll [find some other excuse to] impeach Trump again.

But it's NOT political. It's all about abuse of authority, high crimes and misdemeanors. Honest it is. Really. Cross my fingers and hope ... uh, no, not that.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Boomhauer on December 23, 2019, 08:46:37 PM
Funny how under another president disrespecting and hoping for them to fail was “treason” but since 2016 it’s “patriotism”
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 23, 2019, 09:44:07 PM
Funny how under another president disrespecting and hoping for them to fail was “treason” but since 2016 it’s “patriotism”

Dissent is patriotism again.

I wish Obama had been more of a failure.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 24, 2019, 02:03:54 AM
Schiff and the dems has been going about this all the wrong way. Alyssa Milano knows what to do
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/22/alyssa-milano-has-a-new-way-to-get-president-trump-out-of-office-and-it-only-takes-7-minutes-day/


Wait till she hears about that new method of effecting change in the world. I believe it's called "vo ting."

(Edited for better realism.)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 24, 2019, 08:31:01 AM
Wait till she hears about that new method of bringing about positive change in the world. I believe it's called "vo ting."

Shhhhhhh
Never interrupt your enemy when he (she) is making a mistake.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 24, 2019, 10:51:04 AM
Derp

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   1/10. Why does Senator McConnell talk about how he will run the impeachment trial, and why do we listen? He has zero constitutional authority to decide its shape.

    — Timothy Snyder (@TimothyDSnyder) December 22, 2019
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/12/24/so-very-wrong-byron-york-mocks-yale-prof-for-claiming-mcconnell-has-zero-constitutional-authority-on-impeachment-trial/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on December 24, 2019, 12:22:20 PM
Quote
   If Trump is removed from office, Mike Pence would become the next president.

    But according to the Presidential Succession Act, if he and Trump both go down simultaneously, @SpeakerPelosi is next in line.

    Read more: https://t.co/rMj1YPtrwJ pic.twitter.com/EY7XCHaWVD

    — Vox (@voxdotcom) December 24, 2019

Quote
   This is like porn for people with TDS.

    — Don't eat me, bro (@IMatriculator) December 24, 2019

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/12/24/straightforward-from-here-vox-sounds-pretty-convinced-that-impeachment-could-ultimately-lead-to-president-nancy-pelosi/

(http://e.lvme.me/pzv5j7l.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 24, 2019, 03:10:04 PM
Quote
@MsBlaireWhite

The United States now has two Presidents impeached for embarrassing Hillary Clinton.


Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 24, 2019, 03:19:46 PM
(https://cdn.ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/IMG_0993-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 24, 2019, 03:26:00 PM
God must truly love stupid people since he made so many of them.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2019, 03:54:28 PM
God must truly love stupid people since he made so many of them.

Don't blame God - blame our stellar education system and the people who would rather watch The View than read a book. I bet all the white people in that post speak in Ebonics. "Chache me outside, how bout dat?"
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 24, 2019, 04:51:12 PM
I like the comment about not giving his "hatred any more credence." Just put some words in a pile, there, Lawrence. Well done.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: 230RN on December 24, 2019, 10:05:52 PM
"He's no longer the President."

God must truly love stupid people since he made so many of them.

What's even sadder and scary about that is they're the ones who want to lecture us on how the "science" is settled.

I'm beyond being amazed any more.  One lemming goes over the edge, and the rest dutifully follow along.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on December 24, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
Let's say that, hypothetically, Ms. Pelosi gets her act together and forwards the articles of impeachment to the Senate some time in 2020. Let's go further and suppose that (again, hypothetically) the Senate actually convicts Trump and removes him from office. Pence becomes President for the remainder of Trump's term.

This is Trump's FIRST term. The impeachment process removes him from office. Does the Constitution say -- anywhere -- that Trump can't run and be elected to a second term if he is impeached before the end of his first term?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on December 24, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Yes.

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Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

Also, Trump can't pardon himself.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 24, 2019, 11:07:59 PM
It would be pretty stinkin' hilarious if Trump were elected again, after being removed (were that possible). Another similarity to old John Wilkes.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: bedlamite on December 25, 2019, 02:34:41 AM
Of course, the solution is obviously to impeach him twice:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/24/could-democrats-impeach-trump-twice-they-might-have/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: HankB on December 25, 2019, 10:18:01 AM
Yes.
Quote
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

Also, Trump can't pardon himself.
Two Words: Alcee Hastings

Impeached and removed from his Federal judgeship in 1989 - charges were bribery and perjury.
Elected to the US Congress in 1993 where he still serves today.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 02, 2020, 03:10:40 PM
Only thing that shocks me about this is him admitting it.

Quote
   Democrat Rep. Al Green says impeachment began when @realDonaldTrump was running for President.

    That should end any question about how impeachment is entirely political for Democrats.pic.twitter.com/nfZml9GSPi

    — Ronna McDaniel (@GOPChairwoman) December 31, 2019

Something of a complaint further down that the video is out of context and thus doesn't prove anything but that gets slapped down pretty quickly

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/02/shocker-democratic-rep-al-green-says-the-genesis-of-impeachment-was-when-donald-trump-was-running-for-president-video/

Democrat Rep. Green: “the genesis of impeachment…was when the president was running for office”
https://youtu.be/Bk7gQfwquAM
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1212028915818086402/video/1

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Unisaw on January 02, 2020, 06:21:10 PM
Something just occurred to me: do you suppose that Pelosi could be delaying delivery of articles of impeachment to the Senate in an attempt to create leverage for future use if Ginsberg needs to be replaced on the Supreme Court?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 02, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
Something just occurred to me: do you suppose that Pelosi could be delaying delivery of articles of impeachment to the Senate in an attempt to create leverage for future use if Ginsberg needs to be replaced on the Supreme Court?

Possible ... but I don't think Trump is the guy to be bluffed with a ploy like that. I may be mistaken, but my read is that Trump would look at something like that as a challenge, to which he might just respond, "Bring it on, Nancy!"

And then he'd use it to raise more donations.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 06, 2020, 02:43:54 PM
Man, what's up with Bolton? Is he going full Bulwark or something?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-bolton-i-will-testify-in-impeachment-trial-if-subpoenaed
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RocketMan on January 06, 2020, 06:55:29 PM
Man, what's up with Bolton? Is he going full Bulwark or something?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-bolton-i-will-testify-in-impeachment-trial-if-subpoenaed

It's hard to say for sure.  Bolton did not exactly part on the best terms with Trump.  He might be signaling about some payback.
Then again, he may be a standup guy and throw everything back in the Democrats' faces given the opportunity.
Lot's of folks likely trying to figure out what he would do.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 06, 2020, 10:24:24 PM
Man, what's up with Bolton? Is he going full Bulwark or something?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-bolton-i-will-testify-in-impeachment-trial-if-subpoenaed

Never go full Bulwark.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 09, 2020, 08:48:57 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-grasping-at-straws-to-impeach-trump-now-regret-banning-straws
Democrats Grasping At Straws To Impeach Trump Now Regret Banning Straws

Quote
"We started grasping for straws but suddenly realized we had banned them a while back," a downcast Nancy Pelosi told reporters. "We really should have seen this coming."

Quote
The Democratic leaders tried to reach for paper straws instead, but they instantly crumbled into a fine powder.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 09, 2020, 08:54:08 AM
If you really want to see a fine case of TDS, click the link below. This guy is an environmental attorney that's a good buddy of Ted Danson's. Writes a semi-monthly opinion column in the Santa Barbara local rag. While you might think this is over the top, it's the kind of thing I listened to every day when I lived there. Before Trump, you could just insert some other non-crazy, non-left topic, and this guy (and all the writers for this paper, really) could turn it into derangement syndrome.

https://www.independent.com/2020/01/08/the-civil-war-never-ended/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 09, 2020, 09:39:50 AM
If you really want to see a fine case of TDS, click the link below. This guy is an environmental attorney that's a good buddy of Ted Danson's. Writes a semi-monthly opinion column in the Santa Barbara local rag. While you might think this is over the top, it's the kind of thing I listened to every day when I lived there. Before Trump, you could just insert some other non-crazy, non-left topic, and this guy (and all the writers for this paper, really) could turn it into derangement syndrome.

https://www.independent.com/2020/01/08/the-civil-war-never-ended/

Classic projection

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Our current Civil War is experiencing horrific racial and religious casualties/murders of African Americans, Jews, and Latinos, with an increase in attacks on Muslims. Instead of secession, attacks on our democracy and the rule of law have been added to the fight. Trump, his Republican and White Supremacist and Evangelical “soldiers” repeatedly ignore the law and attack our Constitutional democracy.

And then he becomes Mayor of Projection Town

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These attacks can prove successful because there are enough Americans who have no understanding of how our form of government works and can carry the Electoral College. Recent surveys revealed that more than a third of us can’t name any of the rights guaranteed under the First Amendment, two-thirds don’t know there are three branches of government, 85 percent have no idea what the “rule of law” is, and 71 percent do not know that our Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

The whole article is delusional projection


Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 10, 2020, 12:10:38 AM
"Dearest Sarah,

I write to inform you that I am safe here in Chicago, though I was attacked by two men with MAGA caps, amidst the howling winds of a snowstorm..."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on January 10, 2020, 01:17:23 AM
If you really want to see a fine case of TDS, click the link below. This guy is an environmental attorney that's a good buddy of Ted Danson's. Writes a semi-monthly opinion column in the Santa Barbara local rag. While you might think this is over the top, it's the kind of thing I listened to every day when I lived there. Before Trump, you could just insert some other non-crazy, non-left topic, and this guy (and all the writers for this paper, really) could turn it into derangement syndrome.

https://www.independent.com/2020/01/08/the-civil-war-never-ended/

Wow.   Pure Looney-tune.  Does he know Obama was separating the kiddies at the border?   Wanting to build a hotel in Moscow is  somehow corrupt?  

Modern media is giving me headaches.  

We are living in Clown World.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 10, 2020, 12:42:23 PM
She blinked
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    BREAKING: @SpeakerPelosi says in letter to House Dems that a resolution to transmit impeachment articles to Senate and appoint managers will be brought to House floor next week

    — Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) January 10, 2020
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/01/10/cocaine-mitch-for-the-win-nancy-pelosi-caves-will-bring-resolution-to-house-floor-to-deliver-articles-to-the-senate-next-week/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: K Frame on January 10, 2020, 01:27:35 PM
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I was flabbergasted when she said she was "holding" the articles, basically to force the Senate to agree to terms that she dictated... How in God's name did she ever think she actually had a strong bargaining position, let lone a position in which she could demand anything of the Senate?

She is going to spin this as if it's some huge victory for the Democrats, but the fact that she caved with NO concessions from McConnell puts the lie to that.

I'm pretty sure that she was waiting for a groundswell of citizen outrage to develop so that she could force terms on the Senate. But, in this case, pretty much all she heard was crickets.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2020, 03:25:34 PM

I was flabbergasted when she said she was "holding" the articles, basically to force the Senate to agree to terms that she dictated... How in God's name did she ever think she actually had a strong bargaining position, let lone a position in which she could demand anything of the Senate?

I honestly think she has a real fear of "the squad" and their cohorts. I still believe it was mostly because of them that she did impeachment in the house to begin with. Whatever else you say about her, she usually has pretty good political tactics, but she's been doing some stupid *expletive deleted*it ever since 2016 and "the squad".
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 10, 2020, 03:27:33 PM
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Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have questioned just what intelligence went into the decision to kill Soleimani, and especially why it had to happen when it did. The administration has so far only mentioned some sort of "imminent threat" as justification. But "after the strike," Trump gave associates another explanation: "He was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate," the The Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-new-national-security-team-made-fast-work-of-iran-strike-11578619195) writes.

Hard to say how accurate this is but it raises an interesting point - any senators who are looking to squeeze the president a bit on something probably have their best opportunity to do so right now.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 10, 2020, 04:34:36 PM
Hard to say how accurate this is but it raises an interesting point - any senators who are looking to squeeze the president a bit on something probably have their best opportunity to do so right now.
It takes 2/3 of Senators to impeach.  It would take a number of Republicans voting for impeachment for one or two to get much leverage. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 10, 2020, 04:47:42 PM
It takes 2/3 of Senators to impeach.  It would take a number of Republicans voting for impeachment for one or two to get much leverage. 
Right, there's no real danger of of the senate actually voting to remove him.
The margins to decide the rules are much slimmer though. With a few more votes they could immediately pass the motion to dismiss (doubtful) or shoot down calling any witnesses.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Chester32141 on January 10, 2020, 08:24:39 PM
Seems to me that the Left has a lot more to fear from a trial with witnesses … the president is the most vetted person in politics so the idea of any skeletons in his closets is laughable … Be a great time to begin the big reveal while the whole world is watching …
 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 12, 2020, 06:03:00 PM
Trump won't be President next year "one way or another."

https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2020/01/12/steve-scalise-uses-three-comments-from-nancy-pelosi-as-evidence-that-impeachment-is-all-political/

Also, does anyone else see the resemblance between Nancy Pelosi in the screengrabs and a drunk Lucille Bluth?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 12, 2020, 06:39:36 PM
Trump won't be President next year "one way or another."

https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2020/01/12/steve-scalise-uses-three-comments-from-nancy-pelosi-as-evidence-that-impeachment-is-all-political/

Also, does anyone else see the resemblance between Nancy Pelosi in the screengrabs and a drunk Lucille Bluth?

Is she taking Buttigieg to Motherboy?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 12, 2020, 06:53:40 PM
Is she taking Buttigieg to Motherboy?

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 15, 2020, 11:18:01 AM
This should be somewhat amusing to watch  [popcorn]

Pelosi names Schiff, Nadler as prosecutors for Trump trial
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/pelosi-names-schiff-nadler-as-prosecutors-for-trump-trial/article_501adaba-3cba-5043-9846-17c2b59ebfa0.html
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on January 15, 2020, 11:19:13 AM
This should be somewhat amusing to watch  [popcorn]

Pelosi names Schiff, Nadler as prosecutors for Trump trial
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/pelosi-names-schiff-nadler-as-prosecutors-for-trump-trial/article_501adaba-3cba-5043-9846-17c2b59ebfa0.html

More clownworld on the way!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on January 15, 2020, 11:44:22 AM
This should be somewhat amusing to watch  [popcorn]

Pelosi names Schiff, Nadler as prosecutors for Trump trial
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/pelosi-names-schiff-nadler-as-prosecutors-for-trump-trial/article_501adaba-3cba-5043-9846-17c2b59ebfa0.html

If the quisling Republican traitors provide the Democrats with enough votes to force additional witnesses, I really hope Trump calls Schiff as a witness.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 15, 2020, 12:20:22 PM
If the quisling Republican traitors provide the Democrats with enough votes to force additional witnesses, I really hope Trump calls Schiff as a witness.
The thing about witnesses in the Senate is that Schiff won't be able to cut off questioning when it gets into something he doesn't want people to hear. 

The main negative to hearing more witnesses is it will likely stretch the impeachment fiasco to many weeks.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: K Frame on January 15, 2020, 12:40:14 PM
"The main negative to hearing more witnesses is it will likely stretch the impeachment fiasco to many weeks."

Gee... I wonder if the Dems actually realized that that would be the case....
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 15, 2020, 04:15:46 PM
Apparently according to Nadler “the Senate is on trial as well as the president”
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/15/impeachment-manager-jerry-nadler-the-senate-is-on-trial-as-well-as-the-president/

Did I miss a memo somewhere along the line?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 15, 2020, 05:30:04 PM
"The main negative to hearing more witnesses is it will likely stretch the impeachment fiasco to many weeks."

Gee... I wonder if the Dems actually realized that that would be the case....
Considering the trailing Democrats that the party doesn't like would be stuck in the Senate for the duration instead of campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, I think they do.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Fly320s on January 15, 2020, 06:31:51 PM
In the photo of Pelosi signing the papers to send the impeachment to the senate, why is Pelosi smiling?

I'll tell you why.  She is doing this for fun.  It makes her happy that she is sticking it to Trump, regardless of the outcome of the impeachment vote.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 15, 2020, 07:23:48 PM
In the photo of Pelosi signing the papers to send the impeachment to the senate, why is Pelosi smiling?

I'll tell you why.  She is doing this for fun.  It makes her happy that she is sticking it to Trump, regardless of the outcome of the impeachment vote.

Such solemnity. Such prayerfulness. I'm sure she's just relieved that the burden is on to the Senate, and out of her hands.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 15, 2020, 07:27:26 PM
My children  :facepalm:

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   .@SpeakerPelosi: "Listen my children and you will hear about an assault on the Constitution of the United States undermining the republic for which our flag stands by the President of the United States."

    Full video here: https://t.co/TCjCWIM7gG pic.twitter.com/RP7tzi5uud

    — CSPAN (@cspan) January 15, 2020
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/01/15/what-a-joke-nancy-pelosis-fresh-impeachment-spin-on-the-midnight-ride-of-paul-revere-sends-heads-crashing-to-desks/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2020, 07:34:07 PM
In the photo of Pelosi signing the papers to send the impeachment to the senate, why is Pelosi smiling?

I'll tell you why.  She is doing this for fun.  It makes her happy that she is sticking it to Trump, regardless of the outcome of the impeachment vote.

Solemn and serious event.

On the bright side, after Trump gets an easy win later this year, we'll be pushing through more judges that know what the constitution is, and maybe we'll even get a hearing protection act and some other things to wipe that smile off her face.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 16, 2020, 08:21:59 AM
What a dichotomy yesterday, eh? Images of Laughing Nancy Pelosi signing impeachment articles with her monogrammed pens on a silver platter, to be given out as souveniers, vs images of Trump signing the China trade deal. I understand by the end of next week, he'll also be signing USMCA.

How does he not walk away with the 2020 election? JMO, but I highly suspect China finally accepted this deal because they too, think Trump is a shoe-in. I believe a part of their strategy to this point was stalling until this year in hopes of a pushover dem getting elected. Now they are looking at cutting their losses.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOXOfhpWsAQRYnG?format=jpg&name=small)

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 16, 2020, 08:30:39 AM
Also slight tangent, but I thought this was as interesting as it was funny:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/01/15/ouch-jeopardy-contestants-come-up-empty-on-identity-of-democrat-impeachment-circus-ringleader/

None of the contestants could identify Schiff. Now I may be wrong, but I would say that Jeopardy contestants are above average in intelligence and well-read. I'm not sure  I know what this might mean about the population in general, but I can't help but think impeachment may be much lower in the public's consciousness than I thought, or that the media (both left and right) would have us believe.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 16, 2020, 09:12:30 AM
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How does he not walk away with the 2020 election? JMO, but I highly suspect China finally accepted this deal because they too, think Trump is a shoe-in. I believe a part of their strategy to this point was stalling until this year in hopes of a pushover dem getting elected. Now they are looking at cutting their losses.

In an honest, free and fair election Trump's reelection would be a no brainer. The shitshow on turbo-steroids we are going to see this year is gonna be epic. IMO the dems were so sure of a Hillary win that they hardly engaged the fraud machine at all. For 2020 they've added turbos, nitrous, afterburners, and stolen the hyperdrive technology from Area 51. It's gonna get "interesting".
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 16, 2020, 09:22:50 AM
In an honest, free and fair election Trump's reelection would be a no brainer. The shitshow on turbo-steroids we are going to see this year is gonna be epic. IMO the dems were so sure of a Hillary win that they hardly engaged the fraud machine at all. For 2020 they've added turbos, nitrous, afterburners, and stolen the hyperdrive technology from Area 51. It's gonna get "interesting".
IMO, the did do that in LA and New York which is obvious when you look at the precinct by precinct map.  I might be more widespread this time.  We will see.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 16, 2020, 09:23:34 AM
My children  :facepalm:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/01/15/what-a-joke-nancy-pelosis-fresh-impeachment-spin-on-the-midnight-ride-of-paul-revere-sends-heads-crashing-to-desks/
I heard a clip of her speech on the radio.  I wonder how many different medications she is on.  That was odd.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 16, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
What a dichotomy yesterday, eh? Images of Laughing Nancy Pelosi signing impeachment articles with her monogrammed pens on a silver platter, to be given out as souveniers, vs images of Trump signing the China trade deal. I understand by the end of next week, he'll also be signing USMCA.

How does he not walk away with the 2020 election? JMO, but I highly suspect China finally accepted this deal because they too, think Trump is a shoe-in. I believe a part of their strategy to this point was stalling until this year in hopes of a pushover dem getting elected. Now they are looking at cutting their losses.


Remember when Trump handed out pens some in the media ran with the story that Trump was sending a message of violence because the pens looked like bullets?
Well https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/01/16/nancy-pelosis-impeachment-swag-pens-look-a-lot-like-bullets/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 16, 2020, 10:50:53 AM
When Clinton was impeached, did the House Speaker hand out souvenir pens? 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2020, 03:25:17 PM
Rand Paul threatens fellow Republicans with explosive witness votes
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/01/15/rand-paul-witness-votes-impeachment-099407?__twitter_impression=true
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Paul says if four or more of his GOP colleagues join with Democrats to entertain new witness testimony, he will make the Senate vote on subpoenaing the president’s preferred witnesses, including Hunter Biden and the whistleblower who revealed the Ukraine scandal — polarizing picks who moderate Republicans aren’t eager to call. So he has a simple message for his party: end the trial before witnesses are called.

“If you vote against Hunter Biden, you’re voting to lose your election, basically. Seriously. That’s what it is,” Paul said during an interview in his office on Wednesday. “If you don’t want to vote and you think you’re going to have to vote against Hunter Biden, you should just vote against witnesses, period.”

Sounds like he is trying to put pressure on the weaker Republicans who are tempted to side with Democrats on hearing more witnesses. 

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After hearing opening arguments and questioning from House impeachment managers and the White House counsel, the Senate is expected to take a vote on whether to consider the witness issue at all, according to senators familiar with McConnell’s plans. If the Senate agrees to hear witnesses, every senator will have the chance to force a motion seeking testimony.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 18, 2020, 07:22:13 PM
Some pushback:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-legal-team-launches-all-out-assault-against-democrats-partisan-impeachment
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 19, 2020, 03:19:18 PM
To go with the impeachment pens......
https://babylonbee.com/news/pelosi-releases-limited-edition-replica-of-dentures-she-was-wearing-during-trump-impeachment
Pelosi Releases Limited-Edition Replica Of Dentures Worn During Trump Impeachment

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Pelosi is also auctioning off a limited number of empty vodka bottles, the contents of which were consumed during the impeachment proceedings.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 19, 2020, 03:36:44 PM
All impeachment, all the time

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    Democrat Rep. Maxine Waters: there may be more “impeachment activity,” “we will not stop”

    It will NEVER be enough for Democrats. pic.twitter.com/mpsoFhi0fk

    — Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) January 19, 2020
https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2020/01/19/what-in-the-world-maxine-waters-is-out-there-talking-about-another-impeachment-activity/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 21, 2020, 03:00:47 PM
The poor reporters are complaining about a metal detector installed forthe impeachment hearings.

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Installing a magnetometer means the Senate trial will have a soundtrack of “beep, beep, beep” as 90+ reporters walk in and out all day. There is no additional safety or security brought by bringing such a device into reporter work space

Yet they think it's a good idea for everyone else.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/21/it-was-like-omaha-beach-out-there-media-firefighters-struggle-to-cope-with-the-metal-detector-in-the-senate-press-gallery/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 22, 2020, 05:05:36 PM
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This is the most brilliant legal presentation I have heard. None comes close. The tone, the facts, the anticipated defenses. I am in awe.
She's referring to Schiff  :facepalm:

That and many of the comments make me wonder

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1220073127696355330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 22, 2020, 05:22:57 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/21/impeachment-has-become-a-dangerous-new-normal/

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For the first 187 years of American history, exactly one president, Andrew Johnson in the 1860s, faced impeachment. In the last 45 years, three presidents have... Put another way, only one of the first 36 presidents had impeachment brought against him, but three of the last nine have.

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Consider that from 1787 to 1992 the Constitution was amended 27 times, or roughly every seven years. Since 1992 there have been no successful amendments. For most of American history, Congress was able to conduct its positive duty of amendment often, but almost never its most negative one, impeachment. Now the exact opposite is true.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 22, 2020, 05:28:47 PM
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For the first 187 years of American history, exactly one president, Andrew Johnson in the 1860s, faced impeachment. In the last 45 years, three two presidents have...

Fixed.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: sumpnz on January 22, 2020, 05:36:20 PM
Fixed.


Only because Nixon resigned before they could hold the vote.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 22, 2020, 05:40:18 PM
Only because Nixon resigned before they could hold the vote.

True.

Still not impeached.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 22, 2020, 09:33:25 PM
He didn't say 3 were impeached. He said 3 faced impeachment. I guess one might find talk of impeachment in other administrations.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 23, 2020, 11:10:36 AM
He didn't say 3 were impeached. He said 3 faced impeachment. I guess one might find talk of impeachment in other administrations.
I actually heard every Republican President since Eisenhower has had articles of impeachment brought up in the House.  Most of the time, they died in committee. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 23, 2020, 05:44:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO_1R7aUUAAFBcy?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2020, 11:37:07 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz011920dAPC20200118044505.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 23, 2020, 11:37:38 PM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mle200118c20200118121357.jpg)
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: charby on January 25, 2020, 11:20:28 AM
Listening to the Senate trial this AM, I'm getting the feeling that Democrats may have just gave themselves just enough rope to hang themselves.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 25, 2020, 11:48:03 AM
Schiff is creeping me out but what is creeping me even more is the religious like reverence some on the left seem to have for anything that comes out of mouth. All the while I see a Monty Python character.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on January 25, 2020, 11:54:25 AM
Shiff reminds me more of ....
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 25, 2020, 12:45:40 PM
Schiff is creeping me out but what is creeping me even more is the religious like reverence some on the left seem to have for anything that comes out of mouth. All the while I see a Monty Python character.

Monty Python was funny. Nothing funny about Schiff, just a bloviating libtard with delusions of adequacy.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: BobR on January 25, 2020, 01:12:37 PM
Start at 0:35 to skip the intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHu-u9inNPA&list=RDaHu-u9inNPA&start_radio=1&t=7


bob
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 25, 2020, 01:55:16 PM
Trump's team should lose in the senate because they're all white.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/01/25/there-it-is-cnn-legal-analyst-jeffrey-toobin-criticizes-trump-defense-teams-wait-for-it-lack-of-diversity/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 25, 2020, 02:09:14 PM
Trump's team should lose in the senate because they're all white.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/01/25/there-it-is-cnn-legal-analyst-jeffrey-toobin-criticizes-trump-defense-teams-wait-for-it-lack-of-diversity/

Further down on the page

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    How do you know that President Trump's team totally annihilated all Democrat arguments?

    Because CNN is talking about how the President's team is "too white."

    Yes, really.

    — Abigail Marone (Text LIFE to 88022) (@abigailmarone) January 25, 2020
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 25, 2020, 08:51:31 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-warn-that-american-people-may-tamper-with-next-election
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Boomhauer on January 25, 2020, 09:27:08 PM
This impeachment thing is the best bargain we ever got. The Dems are too busy falling over themselves with it to be screwing up the country and Trump barely has to put any effort into his campaign.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 27, 2020, 07:41:12 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/critics-hammer-bolton-after-book-pre-order-goes-live-following-leaked-manuscript-published-by-nyt

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@BuckSexton

Given the obvious timing of this, wondering if they will let Michael Avenatti out of prison to help Julie Swetnick claim she was on the phone call with Trump too, so the media can breathlessly print her insane and fact free allegations in a last desperate act to rig the trial
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2020, 08:39:39 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/critics-hammer-bolton-after-book-pre-order-goes-live-following-leaked-manuscript-published-by-nyt


Gotta say that I'm super disappointed in Bolton these days. The opposite of how I used to think of him. I mean, a lot of this could be media manipulation and Bolton is taking unjustified heat, but I don't know.

I do blame Trump a little bit because of his "Twitter firings", where someone goes from "The best and brightest" to, "What a stupid loser! He was a dumb moron idiot who didn't know what he was doing!"

I read a Davos interview snippet with Trump where maybe he realized that.

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"The problem with John [Bolton] is, it's a national security problem," Trump told Fox News at a recent press conference in Davos, Switzerland. "If you think about it, he knows some of my thoughts, he knows what I think about leaders. What happens if he reveals what I think about a certain leader and it's not very positive? ... It's going to be very hard, it's going to make the job very hard. He knows other things. I don't know if we left on the best of terms. I would say probably not. So you don't like people testifying when they didn't leave on good terms -- and that was due to me, not due to him."
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2020, 11:13:08 AM
And on that "leaked" Bolton manuscript:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/01/27/wait-wtf-alexander-vindmans-brother-in-charge-of-reviewing-all-nsc-publications-including-leaked-john-bolton-manuscript/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2020, 05:13:15 PM
New prediction:
Senate sees this as their golden opportunity to get rid of Trump.  They convict him in the senate and remove him, with hopes that the D candidate is toothless like Biden, and they can run a better candidate in 2024.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2020, 05:24:34 PM
New prediction:
Senate sees this as their golden opportunity to get rid of Trump.  They convict him in the senate and remove him, with hopes that the D candidate is toothless like Biden, and they can run a better candidate in 2024.


That would be a huge mistake on their part, IMO. More people like, or if not like, sympathize with Trump for being railroaded than ever before. 

I can say that for myself, if they convict in the senate, it means that enough Rs either folded or became traitors, and  I won't even bother with whatever RINO puppet they run in Trump's place in November. I'll either do a write-in or stay home altogether, because this impeachment has been a sham by people who couldn't suck it up when they lost in 2016, and if elections don't matter anymore, then I'll stay at home with my guns and ammo and wait for the inevitable.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 27, 2020, 05:28:15 PM
New prediction:
Senate sees this as their golden opportunity to get rid of Trump.  They convict him in the senate and remove him, with hopes that the D candidate is toothless like Biden, and they can run a better candidate in 2024.

Who predicted that?

So far, there has been no indication I have heard that any R Senators are even considering voting against Trump.  The type of politician who would do this is unlikely to do it without telegraphing it.  At the least, they would be talking to their financial backers to make sure they don't get hung out to dry.  It would probably leak at that point.  

There is still time for Trump to campaign for primary challengers for those that are up for reelection.  Which he could do even if they impeached him.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
Also, from Gallup of all places:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/01/27/this-is-why-they-are-going-apoplectic-gallup-poll-shows-most-americans-satisfied-with-the-economy-national-security/

So if Rs really want to shoot themselves in the foot because they have zero awareness of their base, vote to impeach, I guess.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on January 27, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
New prediction:
Senate sees this as their golden opportunity to get rid of Trump.  They convict him in the senate and remove him, with hopes that the D candidate is toothless like Biden, and they can run a better candidate in 2024.


Only in Bill Kristols wet dreams.

Prematurely ending Trump's presidency will end the Republican Party.

They do that and I'm afraid things will go hot. Let's hope they aren't that stupid.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2020, 06:23:53 PM
For the record, it's my prediction. I didn't get it from any talking heads.

Only in Bill Kristols wet dreams.

Prematurely ending Trump's presidency will end the Republican Party.

They do that and I'm afraid things will go hot. Let's hope they aren't that stupid.


It won't be all of them. Just the middle of the road Never Trumpers.
Just enough of them will flip.  It will only take a handful.

Do you not think that the likes of Romney aren't that self serving and stupid?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 27, 2020, 06:26:05 PM
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Prematurely ending Trump's presidency will end the Republican Party.

And very likely the Republic as we know it.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2020, 06:31:46 PM
And very likely the Republic as we know it.


I call bullshit. Not enough people will boogaloo if he's ousted by the Senate. 
Those that do will be painted as Nazis and alt righters, sumarily rounded up and sent to prison.

The GOP thrives off being the opposition party.  Every time they've gained power, the squander it almost as fast.
Look at how they *expletive deleted*ed Virginia.  30% of the open seats weren't even contested.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2020, 06:36:31 PM
I call bullshit. Not enough people will boogaloo if he's ousted by the Senate. 
Those that do will be painted as Nazis and alt righters, sumarily rounded up and sent to prison.

I don't see insurrection if they oust him - most of us have too easy of lives and Netflix and Costco and stuff that we don't want to give up. I do see the potential for significant John Galting - staying under the radar and saying "*expletive deleted*ck this" regarding laws and a whole lot of other stuff.

I agree with you that someone like Romney could easily put in a self-serving "impeach" vote.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 27, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
I didn't say it wold be Civil War 2.0.
With Trump we had at least the chance to hold on to the last vestiges of the Republic at least until he is properly voted out of office by the voters.
With an impeachment in the senate the cause is lost. The libtards will be emboldened to "impeach" any conservative that rises. If we see a dem president and dem house and senate take control in the next election we are good and truly *expletive deleted*ed.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 27, 2020, 06:39:58 PM
The libtards will be emboldened to "impeach" any conservative that rises.


And  I want our side to immediately impeach any dem that's elected, because that's how we do things now. Part of my John Galting to speed up whatever is happening.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 27, 2020, 06:45:19 PM
Wont happen. We conservatives take the high road and don't stoop to such low brow tactics.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on January 27, 2020, 06:58:42 PM
May our chains continue to rest lightly upon us then.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Jamisjockey on January 27, 2020, 07:12:18 PM
Wont happen. We conservatives take the high road and don't stoop to such low brow tactics.


BS.  The GOP went after Clinton after allegations he was banging an intern, and then made sure to impeach him on something, which ended up being the charge of lying under oath. 

No, the reason the GOP won't tit for tat is because they don't have the cahones.

The GOP is not the conservative party, by the way. They are an opposition party to the democrats.  They tax and spend and don't conserve much.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 27, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
New prediction:
Senate sees this as their golden opportunity to get rid of Trump.  They convict him in the senate and remove him, with hopes that the D candidate is toothless like Biden, and they can run a better candidate in 2024.

Quite a prediction - interesting to think about and it provides for some more lively discussion but I wouldn't bet any money on it actually happening.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RocketMan on January 27, 2020, 08:13:04 PM
It would take 20 GOP senators to vote with all the Democrats to convict Trump.  There are at least that many never-Trumper senators in the GOP.  I've had a small nagging feeling all along that these never-Trumper senators have been discussing their options among themselves, and never letting on to Cocaine Mitch that they have been doing so.
Assuming the Senate will automatically acquit Trump is taking things for granted.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 27, 2020, 10:10:13 PM
Quite a prediction - interesting to think about and it provides for some more lively discussion but I wouldn't bet any money on it actually happening.

Too unlikely to be interesting.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: French G. on January 28, 2020, 12:38:35 AM
The never trumpers will vote to acquit. Not for love of Trump, but because they like their own little gravy train and as long as they get elected every six they don't need a real job.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 28, 2020, 09:17:18 AM
For the record, it's my prediction. I didn't get it from any talking heads.

It won't be all of them. Just the middle of the road Never Trumpers.
Just enough of them will flip.  It will only take a handful.

Do you not think that the likes of Romney aren't that self serving and stupid?
I think Romney himself could make a decision that stupid.  I thought he made noises about supporting the impeachment investigation or at least asking supporting questions.  Nothing came of it so I assumed someone shut him up. 

The Republicans may not like Trump voters (just like Tea Party voters), but they realize they need them. 
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on January 28, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
I think Romney himself could make a decision that stupid.  I thought he made noises about supporting the impeachment investigation or at least asking supporting questions.  Nothing came of it so I assumed someone shut him up. 

The Republicans may not like Trump voters (just like Tea Party voters), but they realize they need them. 

The Tea Party was a result of massive dissatisfaction with Washington, including the Republicans.

So the ruling parties (Democrats and Republicans) did everything they could to kill it.

Donald Trump is the result of that.

I think some of them (mostly on the Republican side) realize that if they try to "Tea Party" Trump, the next iteration will be worse. And might involve bloodshed, or AT LEAST prison.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 28, 2020, 05:46:25 PM
Hold the phone
Of course the LAT could be reading too much into her statements but stay tuned

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   Breaking: Sen. Dianne Feinstein became the first Democrat to suggest that she could vote to acquit President Trump despite serious concerns about his character. https://t.co/82GoQkmpAB

    — Los Angeles Times (@latimes) January 28, 2020
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/28/did-dianne-feinstein-just-suggest-that-she-might-vote-to-acquit-donald-trump-the-la-times-seems-to-think-so/

Feinstein leans toward acquitting Trump as his defense team ends impeachment arguments
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-01-28/trump-team-wraps-impeachment-defense-with-an-elephant-in-the-senate-john-bolton
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 28, 2020, 06:02:27 PM
Hold the phone
Of course the LAT could be reading too much into her statements but stay tuned
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/01/28/did-dianne-feinstein-just-suggest-that-she-might-vote-to-acquit-donald-trump-the-la-times-seems-to-think-so/

Feinstein leans toward acquitting Trump as his defense team ends impeachment arguments
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-01-28/trump-team-wraps-impeachment-defense-with-an-elephant-in-the-senate-john-bolton

Check the updates.  Feinstein is backpedaling like Michael Moore past a doughnut shop.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 28, 2020, 06:03:55 PM
Totally overlooked the updates. DOH!
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 28, 2020, 06:31:13 PM
Check the updates.  Feinstein is backpedaling like Michael Moore past a doughnut shop.


 :rofl:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: TommyGunn on January 28, 2020, 07:54:25 PM
That would be a huge mistake on their part, IMO. More people like, or if not like, sympathize with Trump for being railroaded than ever before. 

I can say that for myself, if they convict in the senate, it means that enough Rs either folded or became traitors, and  I won't even bother with whatever RINO puppet they run in Trump's place in November. I'll either do a write-in or stay home altogether, because this impeachment has been a sham by people who couldn't suck it up when they lost in 2016, and if elections don't matter anymore, then I'll stay at home with my guns and ammo and wait for the inevitable.

Pretty much my point of view as well.   
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 29, 2020, 09:08:29 AM
I do blame Trump a little bit because of his "Twitter firings", where someone goes from "The best and brightest" to, "What a stupid loser! He was a dumb moron idiot who didn't know what he was doing!"
Trump is predictable in a few ways  :laugh:

Quote from: Donald J. Trump
For a guy who couldn’t get approved for the Ambassador to the U.N. years ago, couldn’t get approved for anything since, “begged” me for a non Senate approved job, which I gave him despite many saying “Don’t do it, sir,” takes the job, mistakenly says “Libyan Model” on T.V., and..many more mistakes of judgement, gets fired because frankly, if I listened to him, we would be in World War Six by now, and goes out and IMMEDIATELY writes a nasty & untrue book. All Classified National Security. Who would do this?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: MechAg94 on January 29, 2020, 09:45:25 AM
Trump is predictable in a few ways  :laugh:

But that is pretty what you get with the guy.  If he filtered all his words through handlers, we wouldn't hear that stuff.  


The next question is how many of the other politicians in D.C. think and/or say that (and worse) in private yet you never hear it because they don't speak their mind in public.  I think you would see a lot of them sounding more like AOC on a bad day.  
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Pb on January 29, 2020, 10:09:59 AM
MechAg94- very true.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: makattak on January 29, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
But that is pretty what you get with the guy.  If filtered all his words through handlers, we wouldn't hear that stuff. 


The next question is how many of the other politicians in D.C. think and/or say that (and worse) in private yet you never hear it because they don't speak their mind in public.  I think you would see a lot of them sounding more like AOC on a bad day. 

It's kind of like the uproar when it leaked that Trump had called certain countries (that are peopled by color!) s-hole countries.

My reaction was:

1. Well, they are.
2. He didn't say it publicly. That's an impressive amount of restraint for President Trump. (Not really, but at the time I thought that. I've since seen that he tends to have strategy to his "outbursts.")
3. Why should I care what he says in private, especially when it's true, if inartful? That's kind of the point that presidents should be able to be less restrained in private.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 29, 2020, 06:56:09 PM
So what are the rules in these hearings given that the Chief Justice is presiding? How close to a court of law is this? Because Schiff is perjuring himself big time and there seem to be zero repercussions.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/01/29/rep-adam-schiff-dodges-sen-ted-cruz-question-about-whistleblowers-possible-work-for-or-with-joe-biden/

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 29, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
So what are the rules in these hearings given that the Chief Justice is presiding? How close to a court of law is this? Because Schiff is perjuring himself big time and there seem to be zero repercussions.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/01/29/rep-adam-schiff-dodges-sen-ted-cruz-question-about-whistleblowers-possible-work-for-or-with-joe-biden/



http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=61720.0

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Pretty clear explanation of the Chief Justice's role in the upcoming impeachment trial.  I'm sure the libs will be crying about Roberts not compelling testimony from Bolton et al, while blocking Hunter Biden, etc for having to also testify, but there isn't much Roberts can do in that regard, even if he wanted to.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on January 30, 2020, 06:54:35 AM
According to this article Bolton took Ukrainian money just before joining the Trump admin.

If true we should see it pop up in other rightish news sources.

https://nationalfile.com/john-bolton-took-six-figures-from-ukrainian-oligarch-clinton-foundation-donor/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 30, 2020, 09:13:42 AM
According to this article Bolton took Ukrainian money just before joining the Trump admin.

If true we should see it pop up in other rightish news sources.

https://nationalfile.com/john-bolton-took-six-figures-from-ukrainian-oligarch-clinton-foundation-donor/

I don't see how that's going to get much traction...

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The largest speaking fees came from a foundation run by Ukrainian steel magnate Viktor Pinchuk, which paid Bolton $115,000 for speeches in September 2017 and February 2018. Pinchuk, who generally advocates for closer ties between Ukraine and the West, also donated $150,000 to President Trump’s charitable foundation in exchange for a short speech Trump made to one of Pinchuk’s conferences by video in 2015.
:rofl:
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 30, 2020, 09:33:28 AM
Schiff is still claiming he doesn't know who the whistle blower is.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/01/30/such-a-damn-liar-adam-schiffs-claim-that-he-doesnt-know-who-the-whistleblower-is-gets-taken-apart-in-receipt-filled-thread/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 30, 2020, 03:06:15 PM
Schiff is still claiming he doesn't know who the whistle blower is.

I don't get what Rand is trying to do here - is he just being cheeky?
Quote from: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/30/john-roberts-rand-paul-whistleblower-109527
I don’t know who the whistleblower is. Adam Schiff doesn’t know who the whistleblower is. My question is not about the whistleblower. My question is about two people who are friends who worked together … who have been overheard talking about impeaching the president years in advance of a process that then was created to get the impeachment process going,” Paul told reporters.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on January 30, 2020, 05:27:38 PM
I don't get what Rand is trying to do here - is he just being cheeky?

Theoretically the whistle blowers identity is unknown.

There is no legitimate reason to censor the name of CIA agent Eric Ciaramella.

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: DittoHead on January 30, 2020, 06:43:30 PM
There is no legitimate reason to censor the name of CIA agent Eric Ciaramella.

But how is he relevant in the impeachment trial without being the whistleblower?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ron on January 30, 2020, 07:10:32 PM
It shows the State Dept was a department looking for an impeachable offense or pretense from the git go.

They are not patriots but partisans.

They are not trustworthy.

The dumbasses already testified that Trump was guilty because he tried to wrestle policy away from the "professionals".

The President sets policy.

The treasonous and traitorous behavior of the deep state functionaries almost makes me question my anti death penalty position.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on January 30, 2020, 10:22:24 PM
We got nothing so lets play the Russia card

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/01/30/clown-tweet-rep-eric-swalwell-says-a-vote-to-acquit-trump-is-a-vote-to-acquit-russia/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 31, 2020, 09:21:30 AM
Well, it appears fence-sitter Alexander (who is retiring) is saying he will not vote for witnesses. Barring a surprise traitor, that allows the other three to vote for witnesses and keep their constituents happy (I get Collins, but how do UT and AK have so many lefty republicans that they vote those senators in?).

Some say it will all be over today. Meanwhile:

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However, overnight, multiple congressional sources told Fox News that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., could seek to have the trial spill over into next week -- past the State of the Union address and the Iowa caucuses --  by introducing a series of motions and calling for more debate.

“The Senate can only move as fast as its slowest member," one source said. Asked when the trial would end, another replied, “when everyone is exhausted.”

Also, sore loser again, with the same reasoning that caused this fiasco, where elections don't count if your candidate loses:

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In scathing comments Thursday as her party appeared on the verge of defeat in the Senate impeachment trial, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi argued that President Trump "cannot be acquitted" if the trial lacks the witness testimony and documentation that Democrats have been seeking.

The San Francisco Democrat also fired on Trump's impeachment defense team, saying they've "disgraced themselves" during this week's trial and suggesting they deserve disbarment over their trial remarks.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: charby on January 31, 2020, 09:25:00 AM
Well, it appears fence-sitter Alexander (who is retiring) is saying he will not vote for witnesses. Barring a surprise traitor, that allows the other three to vote for witnesses and keep their constituents happy (I get Collins, but how do UT and AK have so many lefty republicans that they vote those senators in?).


Alaska-residents get oil dividends.

Utah-probably backlash against the LDS church

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 31, 2020, 09:31:06 AM
Alaska-residents get oil dividends.

Utah-probably backlash against the LDS church



If it's backlash against Mormons, Why vote for a Mormon?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: dogmush on January 31, 2020, 09:32:34 AM
Alaska-residents get oil dividends.

Utah-probably backlash against the LDS church



Half the residents of Alaska live in Anchorage.  What happens in big cities in every state?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 31, 2020, 09:35:47 AM
Half the residents of Alaska live in Anchorage.  What happens in big cities in every state?

I'm sure that's it, but because "Alaska" you think fiercely independent vs "my hand is out for free stuff", but there's no reason for Anchorage not to be like any other big city.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: charby on January 31, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
If it's backlash against Mormons, Why vote for a Mormon?

Same reason many card carrying republicans will never vote for a democrat.

It's Utah, do you think anyone in the LDS church would ever get behind a non LDS candidate? I imagine the LDS church is a huge voting block, but there might be enough moderate or libertarian leaning republicans to keep the theocratical (might be a new word) candidates out of the running.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 31, 2020, 02:06:43 PM
Well Alaska came through. She apparently said that Warren's sham question to Roberts is part of what made her mind up regarding the whole impeachment being a politically motivated sham in which it would be impossible for Trump to get a fair hearing.

They are supposedly going to put the kibosh on the whole thing in a few hours. If anyone is running out of liberal tears, today is election day 2016 all over again - you can restock from a near unlimited supply.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/murkowski-comes-out-against-impeachment-witnesses-putting-trump-on-path-to-acquittal

Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on January 31, 2020, 03:13:15 PM
"Big day today."    - Mitch McConnell
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Ben on January 31, 2020, 03:14:18 PM
Nick Searcy has one of the better reactions.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/01/31/omg-were-all-gonna-die-move-over-ripgop-the-lefts-meltdown-has-escalated-to-defcon-5-on-ripamerica/
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 31, 2020, 04:42:25 PM
Nick Searcy has one of the better reactions.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/01/31/omg-were-all-gonna-die-move-over-ripgop-the-lefts-meltdown-has-escalated-to-defcon-5-on-ripamerica/

What's a TL?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: charby on January 31, 2020, 04:58:52 PM
What's a TL?

Time Line
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 01, 2020, 11:50:19 AM
I'm starting to wonder if the President is even impeached. If the House failed to charge the President with any crimes, can it truly be considered impeachment?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: 230RN on February 01, 2020, 12:44:11 PM
I'm starting to wonder if the President is even impeached. If the House failed to charge the President with any crimes, can it truly be considered impeachment?

No, but you can call it childish vengeful harassment.

Ben:

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Also, sore loser again, with the same reasoning that caused this fiasco, where elections don't count if your candidate loses...

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Do-over, do-over, do-over ! ! !

Terry, (http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/151217079571-0-1/s-l1000.jpg), 230RN
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on February 01, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
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Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on February 05, 2020, 04:28:08 PM
One down, one to go

   BREAKING: Enough senators have cast "not guilty" votes to acquit President Trump on the first of two impeachment charges, abuse of power. Voting continues. https://t.co/2oSARbLo8U

    — The Associated Press (@AP) February 5, 2020
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on February 05, 2020, 04:39:33 PM
Acquitted

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Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 05, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
https://apnews.com/93c85dcfb0e6b2185391965e77ebea51

Quote from: Associated Press
But the final tallies — 52-48 favoring acquittal of abuse of power, 53-47 of obstruction of Congress’ investigation — fell far short. Two-thirds “guilty” votes would have been needed to reach the Constitution’s bar of high crimes and misdemeanors to convict and remove Trump from office.

...

Romney choked up as said drew on his faith and “oath before God” to announce he would vote guilty on the first charge, abuse of power. He would vote to acquit on the second.

So straight party-line vote except for Romney.  No surprise there.


Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: sumpnz on February 05, 2020, 04:49:03 PM
Over/under on when they open another impeachment inquiry in the House?
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: WLJ on February 05, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
Over/under on when they open another impeachment inquiry in the House?

Bet Nancy P already has it prepared
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RocketMan on February 05, 2020, 05:18:44 PM
Glad I was wrong about the NeverTrumper Republicans in the Senate.  I really expected to see some of them vote guilty.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 05, 2020, 08:36:31 PM
Over/under on when they open another impeachment inquiry in the House?

Monday, It'll probably take her the weekend to recover from the hangover.
Title: Re: Impeach rhymes with screech
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 05, 2020, 10:52:01 PM
Glad I was wrong about the NeverTrumper Republicans in the Senate.  I really expected to see some of them vote guilty.

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