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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on February 04, 2020, 11:18:19 PM
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I have to say that Nancy Pelosi is a class act.
Low class ... gutter class all the way. At the end of Trump's State of the Union address, Pelosi openly ripped her copy of the manuscript to shreds, in full view of the cameras. And then she had the effrontery to proclaim that “It was the courteous thing to do.”
https://wtmj.com/national/2020/02/04/the-latest-pelosi-rips-up-speech-as-trump-finishes-address/
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Same thing she and the dems have been doing to the constitution for quite awhile now.
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I had the SOTU address on but didn't watch 95% of it. I did record it. Perhaps I'll f.f. to that point if I feel a need for one more reason to despise Nutso Nancy. :mad:
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Pelosi's stunt was of a peice with the Democrats' behavior throughout. The Republicans are cheering all the great news for Americans (of all backgrounds). The Democrats either don't care or flat-out don't like it.
(Speaking in generalities, of course. Even Pelosi clapped a few times.)
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Knowing President Trump, he'll frame the shreds of Ms,. Pelosi's copy and hang them in an obvious place in the oval office.
If those shreds ever go to auction, I'll bid 2 large to start.
"HimbilabaHimbilabaHimbilaba I have two thousand HimbilabaHimbilaba who will go twenty five hundred HimbilabaHimbilabaHimbilaba Ok, thank you Ma'am, now who will go three for this immortal piece of Americana which hung behind President Trump's desk for four and a half years Himbilaba HimbilabaHimbilaba...""
"...going twice HimbilabaHimbilabaHimbilaba <bangs gavel> SOLD to the gentleman in the front row with the MAGA hat and carrying a forty five..."
:rofl:
Terry
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As I watched the State of the Union last night I couldn't help but think that I've not seen that many Democrats in white since the heyday of the Ku Klux Klan.
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Wow. That was one of the most petulant displays I've ever seen. I can't decide if it was the 10 year old rich girl whose parents wouldn't buy her the pony first childishly crying for attention with the paper shuffling, then, when the adults continued to ignore her, ripping them up. Or the spoiled child looking for attention and looking to embarrass her parents by picking her nose in front of everyone at the party.
Alternate explanation: My mom had the mean dementia before her death, and she would often do things like, if the family was watching TV, find some way to stand between us and the TV and "pretend clean" something. Not for attention really, but just to be mean. While irritated, we never blamed her for it since we knew she was ill. Maybe that's the road to take with Pelosi. Perhaps her family and friends should convince her to retire and take care of herself.
Anyway, another big win for Trump. The only people supporting her are the college SJWs, celebrities, and "unbiased" MSM news anchors. There's no way that the average Democrat family of four in Kansas is applauding that. It's what the parents spend a good deal of their time teaching their kids not to do.
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The Democrats have flat out lost their minds.
Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Biden, Bernie, the squad etc.
How do these nutjobs become your leaders?
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You want a Democrat losing his mind?
This is an e-mail I got from Mark Warner yesterday evening...
By now, I'm sure you've seen the chaos following the Iowa caucuses last night. One of my chief concerns in the Senate has been securing the integrity of our elections and preserving our democracy. Unfortunately, Republicans in the Senate have blocked all of my election security bills.
I promise to continue fighting for election security in the Senate — but I need your help to keep my seat in November.
While the Department of Homeland Security indicated that failures in the app used in last night's caucuses were not the result of malicious cyber activity, the continuing turmoil in Iowa illustrates a larger problem — we have yet to take the necessary steps to ensure the integrity of our elections.
It's time to take a hard look at the election systems we have in place and make sure they're up to par, from registration systems to election night reporting. We need to elect a Senate that takes the integrity of our elections seriously.
The chaos in Iowa created an environment where misinformation is allowed to run rampant online, which further undermines our democratic process. This is an early warning sign that Congress, local officials, and social media companies have more work to do.
Essentially, he's saying that it's the Republican's fault, and that the Democrats, who created the mess in Iowa, are the ones to secure our elections. This is the most optic blind e-mail I have ever seen. This guy was an OK governor for Virginia gunowners, but since he's gone to Washington he's turned into a complete idiot.
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Tangent to Pelosi but part of the SOTU antics:
Parkland dad makes a scene at the SOTU.
Guttenberg was one of Pelosi's guests for the State of the Union. She seemed to make "calm down" gestures with her hands while saying something to herself as she peered up into the gallery after the moment.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/parkland-father-removed-from-house-gallery-for-interrupting-trumps-speech
An MSNBC news ANCHOR. Not opinion editor or even Acosta-like "reporter", but their news anchor:
"The enemy is the guy in the Oval Office who thinks there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville," Wallace said. "The enemy is the guy in the Oval Office who just got a permission slip to cheat in presidential elections. The enemy is a guy who calls his generals 'dopes and losers,' who he didn't want to go into battle with. That is the enemy."
She continued, "I am nauseous when I see Democrats fight amongst themselves."
The MSNBC host repeated her vow to vote for any Democrat who is nominated in the general election, even if it's an "automobile."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-nicolle-wallace-trump-the-enemy
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While the Department of Homeland Security indicated that failures in the app used in last night's caucuses were not the result of malicious cyber activity, the continuing turmoil in Iowa illustrates a larger problem — we have yet to take the necessary steps to ensure the integrity of our elections.
I saw on the teevee yesterday that the DHS head said they had offered to check the integrity of the program, but Shadow and the DNC refused.
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According to the AP it was just a campaign speech and Trump didn't mention the "i" word so so what?
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/trump-uses-state-of-union-to-campaign-pelosi-rips-up/article_03b0626f-92c2-5940-acf0-8d4ca85eee73.html
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and Trump didn't mention the "i" word so so what?
At first I thought you were saying he didn't refer to himself once, and I was about to be impressed.
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Showboating has been all this is about for a while.
"You lie!" remember?
Don't pretend that the DNC has the market cornered on petulance.
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Showboating has been all this is about for a while.
"You lie!" remember?
Don't pretend that the DNC has the market cornered on petulance.
I think there's a difference between members seated in the gallery (from either side) who the camera catches making faces, or even a behind the camera shout, and what Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, was doing on camera, directly behind the President, for the entire SOTU. And while this is her most egregious show, it's not her first one.
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Showboating has been all this is about for a while.
"You lie!" remember?
Don't pretend that the DNC has the market cornered on petulance.
The R who said that (A.) apologized for doing it and (B.) was proven correct. Additionally, the "you lie!" remark was impulse.
Do you think Pelosi's acts, and tearing up the speech, were impulsive?
So far as the SOTU speech being "showboating" ...... ain't TV wonderful? >:D I suspect there was less showboating before TV coverage, but, hey, "cynical me." [popcorn]
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I think what Pelosi did was pretty low and she deserves scorn for it.
I also think there's a lot of hypocrisy about this from people who would applaud the same behavior from someone else.
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I think what Pelosi did was pretty low and she deserves scorn for it.
I also think there's a lot of hypocrisy about this from people who would applaud the same behavior from someone else.
I guess you could say she was playing to the Democrat base. That's what a lot of inflammatory stuff on the right is all about, playing to the base.
The problem is that the left is already on thin ice with the moderates and centrists while Trump is slowly winning the center over.
If the Dems played nice last night they would have come out looking better IMHO.
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"The enemy is the guy in the Oval Office who thinks there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville," Wallace said. "The enemy is the guy in the Oval Office who just got a permission slip to cheat in presidential elections. The enemy is a guy who calls his generals 'dopes and losers,' who he didn't want to go into battle with. That is the enemy."
She continued, "I am nauseous when I see Democrats fight amongst themselves."
The MSNBC host repeated her vow to vote for any Democrat who is nominated in the general election, even if it's an "automobile."
Unfortunately for her, she's probably entirely correct: https://www.dictionary.com/e/nauseated-vs-nauseous/
She IS nauseous. The fact that she described herself perfectly when intending to use the word "nauseated" is ironic in the extreme.
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If the Dems played nice last night they would have come out looking better IMHO.
Yup. Had she stoically sat there glaring daggers, or even made frowns or whatnot, it would have been a subtle or not so subtle rebuke of what Trump was saying, and she would likely have come off better to those dem centrists. The "paper tantrum" definitely lost the dems some of their center, guaranteed.
Pretty much all you need to know is that the mean girls of "the squad" are 100% approving of and cheering what she did.
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We live in awesome times.
We have Trollolol as President and the Dems can't stop themselves from melting down.
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Well, there's this . . .
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John Fund over on Fox News hit it on the head which his piece. Essentially he says that Pelosi's ripping the speech in half is the admission of a petulant child who knows that she has lost, and lost big time.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/pelosis-sotu-tantrum-was-also-an-acknowledgment-of-defeat-john-fund
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https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/02/05/the-official-white-house-response-to-pelosi-ripping-up-the-sotu-speech-is-hot-fire/
Speaker Pelosi just ripped up:
One of our last surviving Tuskegee Airmen.
The survival of a child born at 21 weeks.
The mourning families of Rocky Jones and Kayla Mueller.
A service member's reunion with his family.
That's her legacy.
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I wonder if the invitees get a signed copy of the speech … I'm sure many would have liked to have a first or second copy signed by the president.
:cool:
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The copy of the speech given to the Speaker by the President is supposed to be the official copy later given over to the National Archives. I doubt there will be any repercussions for her spoiled little girl tantrum.
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The copy of the speech given to the Speaker by the President is supposed to be the official copy later given over to the National Archives.
I did not know that. Very interesting (maybe) from the legal/procedural perspective.
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SHOCKER! It looks like Nancy Pelosi’s SOTU speech-ripping wasn’t all that ‘spontaneous’ after all
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/02/05/shocker-it-looks-like-nancy-pelosis-sotu-speech-ripping-wasnt-all-that-spontaneous-after-all/
Here's Pelosi testing to see if she could rip the speech before the speech even started. She was planning to do it from the start.
https://twitter.com/TheBrandonMorse/status/1225117146268798976
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If I was Trump I would have turned to her and said
You just gained me a million votes by doing that, thank you.
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Trump should've saved on of those fancy commemorative pens for her, since she seems so into them. Might have kept her entertained coloring, the same way we give little kids crayons at a restaurant.
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As I watched the State of the Union last night I couldn't help but think that I've not seen that many Democrats in white since the heyday of the Ku Klux Klan.
I quipped to my wife that white is the traditional paramilitary uniform of the democratic party.
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The copy of the speech given to the Speaker by the President is supposed to be the official copy later given over to the National Archives. I doubt there will be any repercussions for her spoiled little girl tantrum.
A Congress with any sense would censure her promptly if even only to save the DNC a black eye by association.
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A Congress with any sense would censure her promptly if even only to save the DNC a black eye by association.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/house-gop-pelosi-sotu-speech/
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Ummmmm.... wasn't her excuse something about it being spontaneous, a spur of the moment anger thing?
Ummmmmmmm.... I want her to stay away from any red buttons.
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As I watched the State of the Union last night I couldn't help but think that I've not seen that many Democrats in white since the heyday of the Ku Klux Klan.
Perfect observation. Most folks don't know that the KKK were democrats. This from Wikipedia:
the first Klan flourished in the Southern United States in the late 1860s during Reconstruction, then died out by the early 1870s. It sought to overthrow the Republican state governments in the South
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Too bad it wasn't know ahead of time what li'l Nancy was planning, the message could have been printed on paper that couldn't be torn. Watching her struggle to tear it would have been worth the price of admission.
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You wouldn't believe some of the heat that I'm taking from some of my facebook "friends" for that observation...
Good.... good....
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Trump was a 4 year old brat for not shaking her hand, she was the same 4 year old brat for tearing the speech up. I'm tired of adult children.
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Trump was a 4 year old brat for not shaking her hand, she was the same 4 year old brat for tearing the speech up. I'm tired of adult children.
We've been REPEATEDLY told that Trump is immature, unfit for office, a lout, and a scoundrel. And, as a result, we need to get the "mature" politicians to do the job the right way.
And... instead we get proof that for all they claim about Trump, Washington is worse.
I'm glad Trump is insulting and belittling them. These "elitists" have proven themselves to be incompetent buffoons, yet fully convinced of their own superiority. They need to be humiliated. Not just beaten.
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Trump was a 4 year old brat for not shaking her hand, she was the same 4 year old brat for tearing the speech up. I'm tired of adult children.
I disagree.
Pelosi has spent the last year and a half insulting, denigrating, and accusing Trump of being a traitor and a danger to the US. she disrespected the office of the president with her introduction at the SOTU address. Her behavior fully warranted the minor snub.
The "Being the bigger person" approach by the right has done nothing but embolden the left and encourage their behavior.
Sometimes the virtual bitchslap is the right move.
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Trump knows that in wrestling a pig you're going to get muddy
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I disagree.
Pelosi has spent the last year and a half insulting, denigrating, and accusing Trump of being a traitor and a danger to the US. she disrespected the office of the president with her introduction at the SOTU address. Her behavior fully warranted the minor snub.
The "Being the bigger person" approach by the right has done nothing but embolden the left and encourage their behavior.
Sometimes the virtual bitchslap is the right move.
^This.
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https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/state/florida-rep-matt-gaetz-files-ethics-complaint-against-pelosi-for-destroying-trumps-sotu-speech
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I disagree.
Pelosi has spent the last year and a half insulting, denigrating, and accusing Trump of being a traitor and a danger to the US. she disrespected the office of the president with her introduction at the SOTU address. Her behavior fully warranted the minor snub.
The "Being the bigger person" approach by the right has done nothing but embolden the left and encourage their behavior.
Sometimes the virtual bitchslap is the right move.
I concur
Many Democrats and Republicans in positions of power have been engaged in treasonous activities trying oust the President. This isn't just a difference in policy.
Pelosi is a poisonous snake, you shouldn't touch poisonous snakes.
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Trump was a 4 year old brat for not shaking her hand, she was the same 4 year old brat for tearing the speech up. I'm tired of adult children.
Trump has certainly had his share of moments being low class, a brat, a scoundrel, a lout, immature, petulant, insulting and denigrating.
Many of them.
However comparing these two incidents, the handshake snub & tearing up the speech - they aren't really on the same level.
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Trump knows that in wrestling a pig you're going to get muddy
Part of the overall problem is that Trump seems to enjoy wresting the pigs and getting dirty.
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Part of the overall problem is that Trump seems to enjoy wresting the pigs and getting dirty.
Actually that's his strength IMHO. The left doesn't know how to react when someone is willing to get some mud on his suit. unlike 99% of the right, in fighting them and it shows. Most on the right panic at the mere thought of getting their white gloves dirty.
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Trump has certainly had his share of moments being low class, a brat, a scoundrel, a lout, immature, petulant, insulting and denigrating.
Many of them.
However comparing these two incidents, the handshake snub & tearing up the speech - they aren't really on the same level.
Agreed.
Also, something to consider is that Pelosi apparently broke protocol and and gave Trump a snide introduction, which might make one not want to shake hands with her. Also there is a good case for him not seeing her reach for a handshake as he was turning away at the time. Some say Pelosi stuck her hand out late on purpose, which might be a little tinfoily except for the fact that she was practicing her paper tearing ahead of time. Given that, I wouldn't put a handshake stunt past her.
I still don't like a lot of Trump's tweets and getting into name calling contests, but what Pelosi did during the SOTU (not justthe ripping the speech, but the childish on camera paper shuffling) is just 10x that. There's a big difference between stupid Twitter and live, on camera, official events.
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I disagree.
Pelosi has spent the last year and a half insulting, denigrating, and accusing Trump of being a traitor and a danger to the US. she disrespected the office of the president with her introduction at the SOTU address. Her behavior fully warranted the minor snub.
The "Being the bigger person" approach by the right has done nothing but embolden the left and encourage their behavior.
Sometimes the virtual bitchslap is the right move.
Trump has done exactly the same thing. Both are as a human are pieces of excrement. I don't like to decide for God, but I know I won't be shocked if I make it to heaven and neither one of them are there.
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Pelosi's post SOTU response:
Speaker Nancy Pelosi: "A serious breach to start shouting 'four more years' on the floor of the House. Totally inappropriate."
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You knew this was coming
BREAKING: House Speaker Pelosi in morning press conference said Democrats will investigate other cases against the president "that we see as an opportunity" for impeachment
11:40 AM · Feb 6, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1225459205173325824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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"An opportunity." They're not even trying to hide it.
Two years ago Never Trump told us to give Democrats the House. I guess this year they'll tell us to surrender the Senate.
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RoadKingLarry spake thusly:
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The "Being the bigger person" approach by the right has done nothing but embolden the left and encourage their behavior.
Sometimes the virtual bitchslap is the right move.
RoadKingLarry spake truly.
It's sort of like resisting bullies, isn't it?
Terry
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If some of you would bother to look back at the video, you will see that Trump also did not shake hands with V.P. Pence. I guess Trump deliberately snubbed him, too. :mad:
Good grief, folks. Trump is somewhat misophobic from what I've read, and often does not shake hands with people.
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If some of you would bother to look back at the video, you will see that Trump also did not shake hands with V.P. Pence. I guess Trump deliberately snubbed him, too. :mad:
Good grief, folks. Trump is somewhat misophobic from what I've read, and often does not shake hands with people.
I noticed that. But, of course, Pence didn't wait until Trump was already turning away from him and then hold out his hand so he could pretend to be snubbed.
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Regardless of all the bad stuff people try to point out about Trump, one common theme over the last 3 years is that most politicians in D.C. are worse. They try to hide it behind a veneer of fake civility where Trump doesn't bother.
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Regardless of all the bad stuff people try to point out about Trump, one common theme over the last 3 years is that most politicians in D.C. are worse. They try to hide it behind a veneer of fake civility where Trump doesn't bother.
That, and I think some of the questionable activity that this administration has done...they aren't adept at the art of the cover up, nor do they have the media on their side to assist in burying negative news.
Think about the things we know the Obama administration did, including opening investigations into the Trump campaign. Literally the exact same thing that Trump was accused of doing with Ukraine.
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That, and I think some of the questionable activity that this administration has done...they aren't adept at the art of the cover up, nor do they have the media on their side to assist in burying negative news.
Think about the things we know the Obama administration did, including opening investigations into the Trump campaign. Literally the exact same thing that Trump was accused of doing with Ukraine.
It's the same Democrat v Republican double standard, just magnified because Trump.
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That, and I think some of the questionable activity that this administration has done...they aren't adept at the art of the cover up, nor do they have the media on their side to assist in burying negative news.
Think about the things we know the Obama administration did, including opening investigations into the Trump campaign. Literally the exact same thing that Trump was accused of doing with Ukraine.
I believe we had an entire thread dedicated to Obama Admin scandals and the count was higher than most would think. The double standard has been around for a while. If we were still stuck in the 80's with no alternative media, we might not know it.
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I'm finding it interesting in my attempt to read various news sources, that there seems to be a trend on the left to now turn the Pelosi Paper Tantrum into "fake news".
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Of course they're trying to turn it into fake news. If they're successful, it's just another lie promulgated by Orangeman and his sycophants.
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Somebody tore some papers big deal.
Snopes will call it mostly false because nobody can prove it was actually the speech document handed to her.
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Somebody tore some papers big deal.
Snopes will call it mostly false because nobody can prove it was actually the speech document handed to her.
All truths are true, but some truths are more true than others
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Somebody tore some papers big deal.
Snopes will call it mostly false because nobody can prove it was actually the speech document handed to her.
That is actually one of the things I read - that she was tearing papers other than the speech and conservatives are lying by saying it was her speech copy. Which of course is somewhat entertaining considering what she and progressives were saying right after she did it.
I'm thinking that the Trump campaign ad featuring her tantrum is what has them spinning into "never happened" territory.
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I just don't want somebody like that anywhere near the launch codes.