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Title: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 12, 2020, 06:04:49 PM
https://www.wfsb.com/news/ct-high-school-girls-track-athletes-file-suit-after-transgender/article_9f73e28e-4dc9-11ea-9449-af76cf05bbe7.html

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HARTFORD, CT (WFSB) - Three high school track athletes and their mothers have filed a lawsuit in federal court to challenge Connecticut's policy of allowing transgender girls to compete in girls' sports.

The suit, filed Wednesday in Hartford, said the state's policy robs female athletes of opportunities because of the physical advantages of transgender girls.

Well, sure.  That's why we have separate boys' and girls' sports in the first place.

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"CIAC’s policy and its results directly violate the requirements of Title IX, a federal regulation designed to protect equal athletic opportunities for women and girls," the suit said.

Hmm ... interesting legal strategy.  Can't wait to hear what the court decides.

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“Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field. Forcing them to compete against boys isn’t fair, shatters their dreams, and destroys their athletic opportunities,” said Christiana Holcomb, Alliance Defending Freedon (ADF) legal counsel. “Having separate boys’ and girls’ sports has always been based on biological differences, not what people believe about their gender, because those differences matter for fair competition.

"Forcing them to compete against boys ..."

Someone's going to get triggered over that.



Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: zahc on February 12, 2020, 06:10:58 PM
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Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field. Forcing them to compete against boys isn’t fair

I feel really sorry for judges. I mean, what are you supposed to do with something this dissonant? Can law exist in an environment where statements like this compute?
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 12, 2020, 08:19:34 PM
Considering that there probably hasn't been a conservative judge in Connectucut (in either state or federal court) in two or three generations, this one's going to be interesting to watch. Mostly for how the court will spin it to make it look like allowing boys to play as girls for athletic purposes isn't really unfair because ... reasons.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: K Frame on February 12, 2020, 08:51:26 PM
Whelp the left will make sure that their lives are over.

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Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 12, 2020, 08:56:16 PM
This could get "interesting".

 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 12, 2020, 08:56:21 PM
It is about time lawsuits like this are started to put the brakes on this crap.  I figure this will take years to get resolved.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Pb on February 13, 2020, 09:10:38 AM
Haven't these girls been paying attention?   ???  Some women have penises! 
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: WLJ on February 13, 2020, 09:15:26 AM
Haven't these girls been paying attention?   ???  Some women have penises! 

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PV__CSo1mC4/UA9FVrNk9wI/AAAAAAAAFFY/TrJGENIjLYo/s1600/NL+Sports+lr.jpg)
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Tim L on February 13, 2020, 07:24:05 PM
That ^^^ right there is scary!
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 13, 2020, 07:49:21 PM
So is this:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/13/megan-youngren-transgender-runner-olympic-trials/

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Former U.S. Olympic athlete Rebecca Dussault told the Daily Caller News Foundation in September 2019 that allowing biological males into female sports will have disastrous effects on female athletes.

“Once a male body has gone through puberty, they have received the benefits. So the skeletal form, lung capacity, muscle density, the greater length of levers in their body, their muscle-to-weight ratio, their capacity to deal with dehydration much better, narrower hips, I mean you name it — they are physiologically designed differently than women,” she said.

“We invest so much money into keeping sports fair, and this blows the cap off of it,” she added. “Every woman’s record in sports will fall.”
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: brimic on February 14, 2020, 08:31:24 AM
This could get "interesting".

 [popcorn]

I've been saying this for awhile. 'Victim' classes of people all have to fight eachother for the same political territory.
Transgenderism and feminism are especially exclusionary of eachother and cannot occupy the same space, and they are two of the biggest, loudest 'victim classes.'
 >:D [popcorn]
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2020, 08:40:14 AM
That ^^^ right there is scary!

That was back in the day, note the date on the cover, when we were accusing the Eastern Bloc of passing off male athletes as female in the Olympics and other sporting events and screaming bloody murder over it. Compare that to today.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: kgbsquirrel on February 15, 2020, 09:50:03 PM
This could get "interesting".

 [popcorn]

Just like the nightclub shooting where the progressives overtly demonstrated that muslims rank higher than gays in the liberal pecking order.

I wonder who ranks higher this time, women or trannys?  My bet is women.  There are just more women than trannys, just like there are more muslims than gays.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 15, 2020, 10:17:16 PM
That was back in the day, note the date on the cover, when we were accusing the Eastern Bloc of passing off male athletes as female in the Olympics and other sporting events and screaming bloody murder over it. Compare that to today.  :facepalm:
Wasn't that when steroids used by athletes started becoming a big deal? 
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 16, 2020, 01:02:10 AM
Wasn't that when steroids used by athletes started becoming a big deal? 

As I recall, the scandal wasn't about men disguised as women so much as women taking massive amounts of testosterone to build muscle mass, with the usual side effects.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: brimic on February 16, 2020, 01:17:49 AM
Just like the nightclub shooting where the progressives overtly demonstrated that muslims rank higher than gays in the liberal pecking order.

I wonder who ranks higher this time, women or trannys?  My bet is women.  There are just more women than trannys, just like there are more muslims than gays.

Progressivism is truly a death cult
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: WLJ on February 16, 2020, 08:51:40 AM
As I recall, the scandal wasn't about men disguised as women so much as women taking massive amounts of testosterone to build muscle mass, with the usual side effects.


I remember both were being raised with some accusations that some of the women were actually altered men. With the Cold war craziness going on at the time it wouldn't have surprised me one bit. There was some weird stuff going on that's now considered, by some, "normal"
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: WLJ on February 17, 2020, 08:16:23 PM
File under DUH!

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    If you are angry or think it’s “unfair” for a trans girl to beat a cis girl in a sporting event then fundamentally you don’t think trans girls are “real” girls. It’s that simple.

    — Chase Strangio (@chasestrangio) February 17, 2020
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/17/and-if-you-think-its-unfair-for-trans-women-to-dominate-girls-sports-you-dont-think-trans-girls-are-real-girls/
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 20, 2020, 06:05:32 PM
... and Senator Warren is on the wrong side, again:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/warren-urges-arizona-reject-cruel-205147935.html

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Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Thursday decried an Arizona bill that would prevent biological males from competing in girls sports, calling the legislation “cruel.”
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2020, 09:40:56 PM
Man, is this ever an example of what is wrong with the whole "guy pretending to be a girl" athletics thing:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/27/piers-morgan-says-transgender-weightlifters-push-for-place-in-2020-tokyo-olympics-is-insane/

That guy looks bigger than a lot of regular guys. How can women not be infuriated over it?

Yet sadly, this insanity is even taking place in Idaho, where a bill to make it illegal for parents to medically alter their prepubescent kids was halted.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 28, 2020, 09:19:58 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/feb/27/female-wrestler-wins-state-title-high-school-heaven-fitch
A female wrestler has made history by winning a state high school wrestling championship in North Carolina.......She won the 106lb (48 kg) weight class on Saturday.


The radio said she was the top female in her weight class and was allowed to compete against the top boys.  Some of you might know more about this than me.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: lupinus on February 28, 2020, 10:44:05 AM
Try being all for transgender folks having the right to do their thing, but exercising a little common sense like that maybe there are some actual differences and you shouldn't get to play girls sports. It's a fun time.

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Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Ben on February 28, 2020, 10:47:14 AM
Try being all for transgender folks having the right to do their thing, but exercising a little common sense like that maybe there are some actual differences and you shouldn't get to play girls sports. It's a fun time.

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I'd really like to see them start a transgender sports league.  Then I'd like to observe how the females who became "men" feel about competing against the males who became "women".
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Jamisjockey on February 28, 2020, 11:31:53 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/feb/27/female-wrestler-wins-state-title-high-school-heaven-fitch
A female wrestler has made history by winning a state high school wrestling championship in North Carolina.......She won the 106lb (48 kg) weight class on Saturday.


The radio said she was the top female in her weight class and was allowed to compete against the top boys.  Some of you might know more about this than me.

106 is a very, very tiny weight.  For males, imagine them not carrying much muscle.  Not to piss on her accomplishment, but the lower weight classes could definitely be more competitive for women.  It's unsurprising to me for wrestling.  Women are often more flexible than men, too.  Imagine those tiny little gymnists or cheerleaders could probably easily train to wrestle in those weight classes.  They're strong AF.
Now, think about a lot of other sports. There's no restriction on weight or size in football, track, etc etc.  Those are going to be super hard for women to be competitive in.  Period.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on February 28, 2020, 11:47:09 AM
My take is that Title IX will be revamped to include scope of more than one gender.

The easiest out, when considering whom to destroy, is the taxpayer.  Just create an entire new tier of high school and collegiate sports for neither male nor female participants.  Track already trains and competes in a co-ed methodology, so adding more events to meets for the transexuals to run alone makes a meet take longer but otherwise gives everyone what they "want."  You have to create new locker rooms, and you have meets that run longer, resulting in longer away trips for bus transportation and so on, but it's the least disruptive solution.

The transexuals don't want to race against men.  The women don't want to race against men or transexuals.  The men don't give a *expletive deleted*it who they race against, they just want to see who is the fastest.

Of course, this doesn't resolve the issue with transexual males that actually think it's fair to race against women when they grew up and went though puberty as male.  The only solution there is to slam them over the head with a tempered steel clue bat with the kinesiology studies proving how *expletive deleted*ing stupid and uninformed they are.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: makattak on February 28, 2020, 11:57:34 AM
My take is that Title IX will be revamped to include scope of more than one gender.

The easiest out, when considering whom to destroy, is the taxpayer.  Just create an entire new tier of high school and collegiate sports for neither male nor female participants.  Track already trains and competes in a co-ed methodology, so adding more events to meets for the transexuals to run alone makes a meet take longer but otherwise gives everyone what they "want."  You have to create new locker rooms, and you have meets that run longer, resulting in longer away trips for bus transportation and so on, but it's the least disruptive solution.

The transexuals don't want to race against men.  The women don't want to race against men or transexuals.  The men don't give a *expletive deleted*it who they race against, they just want to see who is the fastest.

Of course, this doesn't resolve the issue with transexual males that actually think it's fair to race against women when they grew up and went though puberty as male.  The only solution there is to slam them over the head with a tempered steel clue bat with the kinesiology studies proving how *expletive deleted*ing stupid and uninformed they are.

The men would be all for that, too. Gives them a longer time to rest between the 3200M and the 1600M. Or the 100M and the 200M. Or the 800M and the 4x400M. Or....

Of course, when most meets might have ONE... person... in those extra races, it kind of seems pointless, huh?
Title: Re: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: lupinus on February 28, 2020, 12:58:46 PM
The men would be all for that, too. Gives them a longer time to rest between the 3200M and the 1600M. Or the 100M and the 200M. Or the 800M and the 4x400M. Or....

Of course, when most meets might have ONE... person... in those extra races, it kind of seems pointless, huh?
I mean, they're getting a participation trophy either way, so it's not like it matters 😂

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Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 28, 2020, 01:02:29 PM
My state is currently considering a proposal to officially recognize "intersex" as a third sex/gender for official identification document purposes. Where it gets interesting is that the proposed change is specific that "intersex" means a person with mixed m/f genitalia or mixed m/f chromosomes.

BUT ... among the medical professionals whom they want to allow to certify to the mixed genderness of the person they include psychologists. And I don't think psychologists are qualified, by education or experience, to be rendering official, professional opinions on things such as genetics. So I think they're trying to sneak in a backdoor way for people with gender dysphoria to get themselves classified as "intersex."
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Ron on March 01, 2020, 09:13:37 AM
ZFG

I say let the insane women of our country get exactly what they want, good and hard.

I'm not the one sacrificing their children to their post modern ideology of insanity and delusion.

Why should I lift a finger when they start reaping what they have sown?

This is what being ruled by a government of feelz gets you.

I'm not going to put myself between the lunatics and "the gods of the copybook headings".

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Pb on March 02, 2020, 11:43:49 AM
ZFG

I say let the insane women of our country get exactly what they want, good and hard.

I'm not the one sacrificing their children to their post modern ideology of insanity and delusion.

Why should I lift a finger when they start reaping what they have sown?

This is what being ruled by a government of feelz gets you.

I'm not going to put myself between the lunatics and "the gods of the copybook headings".

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.



I'm looking forwards to the day when every "women's" sports record is held by a man.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on March 08, 2020, 11:02:20 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51676020?__twitter_impression=true
NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition

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She was referred to the Tavistock GIDS clinic at the age of 16. She said after three one-hour-long appointments she was prescribed puberty blockers, which delay the development of signs of puberty, like periods or facial hair.

She felt there wasn't enough investigation or therapy before she reached that stage.

"I should have been challenged on the proposals or the claims that I was making for myself," she said. "And I think that would have made a big difference as well. If I was just challenged on the things I was saying."

Maybe the victims of this nonsense will be able to stop it. 
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Blakenzy on March 19, 2020, 03:19:14 PM
 [popcorn] don't mind me, just sitting here enjoying the progressive trainwreck spectacle  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 11, 2020, 03:35:39 PM
Attorneys for Conn. High School Runners Ask Judge to Recuse after He Forbids Them from Describing Trans Athletes as ‘Male’
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/attorneys-for-connecticut-high-school-runners-ask-judge-to-recuse-after-he-forbids-them-from-describing-trans-athletes-as-male/amp/?taid=5eb931101e86350001b65250&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

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Chatigny:

What I’m saying is you must refer to them as “transgender females” rather than as “males.” Again, that’s the more accurate terminology, and I think that it fully protects your client’s legitimate interests. Referring to these individuals as “transgender females” is consistent with science, common practice and perhaps human decency............
science...  ???
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 11, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
Attorneys for Conn. High School Runners Ask Judge to Recuse after He Forbids Them from Describing Trans Athletes as ‘Male’
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/attorneys-for-connecticut-high-school-runners-ask-judge-to-recuse-after-he-forbids-them-from-describing-trans-athletes-as-male/amp/?taid=5eb931101e86350001b65250&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true
science...  ???

Not surprising. The judiciary in Connecticut is comprised almost entirely of flaming liberals. The only thing surprising (to me, anyway) is that the judge actually claimed that gender fraud is supported by science.

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What I’m saying is you must refer to them as “transgender females” rather than as “males.” Again, that’s the more accurate terminology, and I think that it fully protects your client’s legitimate interests. Referring to these individuals as “transgender females” is consistent with science, common practice and perhaps human decency.

Sorry, judge, but it isn't in any way consistent with science.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: makattak on May 11, 2020, 04:35:21 PM
Not surprising. The judiciary in Connecticut is comprised almost entirely of flaming liberals. The only thing surprising (to me, anyway) is that the judge actually claimed that gender fraud is supported by science.

Sorry, judge, but it isn't in any way consistent with science.

A LIBERAL BELIEVES IT. IT'S EVEN A JUDGE LIBERAL. THEREFORE IT'S SCIENCE, HATER!
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 11, 2020, 06:57:44 PM
A LIBERAL BELIEVES IT. IT'S EVEN A JUDGE LIBERAL. THEREFORE IT'S SCIENCE, HATER!

It depends on what the definition of is science is.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 11, 2020, 09:36:08 PM
It depends on what the definition of is science is.

Science is consensus. Believe the science, heretic.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 12, 2020, 12:00:20 AM
Science is consensus. Believe the science, heretic.

The earth is flat.

The Moon is made of green cheese.

Yetis and the Loch Ness monster are real.

SCIENCE!
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 12, 2020, 08:55:47 AM
The earth is flat.

The Moon is made of green cheese.

Yetis and the Loch Ness monster are real.

SCIENCE!
BELIEF IS SCIENCE!!!!   .....but not that religious belief stuff.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Ron on May 12, 2020, 01:29:52 PM
BELIEF IS SCIENCE!!!!   .....but not that religious belief stuff.

I thought science was democracy?

You know, if the majority vote it so it must be so ie consensus.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 12, 2020, 03:10:04 PM
I thought science was democracy?

You know, if the majority vote it so it must be so ie consensus.

By majority vote, gravity of Earth has been reduced from 9.8 m/s^2 to 4.3m/s^2. 
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: makattak on May 12, 2020, 03:30:46 PM
By majority vote, gravity of Earth has been reduced from 9.8 m/s^2 to 4.3m/s^2. 

Nobody blame me for this. I voted for it to be 10, for ease of calculations.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 12, 2020, 04:00:00 PM
Nobody blame me for this. I voted for it to be 10, for ease of calculations.

I tend to pick on advocates of metric measurements, because of the ridiculousness of time in both systems.  The arbitrariness of a meter.  Why isn't a meter standardized such that gravity on Earth is 10 m/s^2?  Or a second standardized as the time it takes an object to fall 10 meters on Earth?  Then a meter is reproducible anywhere on Earth as long as a proper chronograph is available, or a chronograph can be constructed or calibrated as long as a proper 10 meter height is able to be constructed.  Then we get into minutes/hours/days/years/leapyears/etc.

I grok how nice metric is for joules and grams and such.  But it's not the be-all-end-all of measurement systems that its advocates make it out to be.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 12, 2020, 04:22:31 PM
By majority vote, gravity of Earth has been reduced from 9.8 m/s^2 to 4.3m/s^2. 

Sounds like a pretty serious weight loss program.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: cordex on May 12, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
Then a meter is reproducible anywhere on Earth as long as a proper chronograph is available, or a chronograph can be constructed or calibrated as long as a proper 10 meter height is able to be constructed.  
But ... the pull gravity isn't perfectly consistent around the earth either.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on May 12, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
But ... the pull gravity isn't perfectly consistent around the earth either.

Yeah, I know.  But in one particular set of known spots it can be a known quantity.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Boomhauer on May 12, 2020, 05:35:47 PM
I tend to pick on advocates of metric measurements, because of the ridiculousness of time in both systems.  The arbitrariness of a meter.  Why isn't a meter standardized such that gravity on Earth is 10 m/s^2?  Or a second standardized as the time it takes an object to fall 10 meters on Earth?  Then a meter is reproducible anywhere on Earth as long as a proper chronograph is available, or a chronograph can be constructed or calibrated as long as a proper 10 meter height is able to be constructed.  Then we get into minutes/hours/days/years/leapyears/etc.

I grok how nice metric is for joules and grams and such.  But it's not the be-all-end-all of measurement systems that its advocates make it out to be.

Didn’t the French try to change the time part and couldn’t get it to work right when they changed over to the metric system?

Metric is also not standardized in hardware either.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: cordex on May 12, 2020, 07:54:53 PM
Yeah, I know.  But in one particular set of known spots it can be a known quantity.
How is that any less arbitrary?
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: zahc on May 13, 2020, 10:15:34 AM
Metric threads were obviously designed by somebody who had never seen or operated a screw machine. UNC threads (along with pre-metrification Whitworth threads, Italian threads, and yes even French threads) except for a few oddball sizes have pitches which are multiples of each other (2, 4, 8, 16, 18, 20, 24, 28, 30, 32...) or at least even numbers, so they can easily be made on a lathe with a single lead-screw with an even pitch. Metric thread pitches are completely arbitrary so there is no single lathe lead-screw which will work the same way; if you have a 2mm leadscrew on your lathe you can make 2mm threads the normal way but F you for most of the others. There was nothing stopping them from making metric thread pitches a regular series, but they didn't even know enough to do it. Ironically, it was probably decreed by some revolutionary who just finished overthrowing the aristocracy and replacing the arbitrary units system, who didn't even know better. So we all get to keep the famous 127-tooth lathe gear around for the rest of eternity so we can make metric threads. Way to make things better guys. Couldn't you have spent your energy elsewhere, like fixing your spelling?
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 13, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Metric threads were obviously designed by somebody who had never seen or operated a screw machine. UNC threads (along with pre-metrification Whitworth threads, Italian threads, and yes even French threads) except for a few oddball sizes have pitches which are multiples of each other (2, 4, 8, 16, 18, 20, 24, 28, 30, 32...) or at least even numbers, so they can easily be made on a lathe with a single lead-screw with an even pitch. Metric thread pitches are completely arbitrary so there is no single lathe lead-screw which will work the same way; if you have a 2mm leadscrew on your lathe you can make 2mm threads the normal way but F you for most of the others. There was nothing stopping them from making metric thread pitches a regular series, but they didn't even know enough to do it. Ironically, it was probably decreed by some revolutionary who just finished overthrowing the aristocracy and replacing the arbitrary units system, who didn't even know better. So we all get to keep the famous 127-tooth lathe gear around for the rest of eternity so we can make metric threads. Way to make things better guys. Couldn't you have spent your energy elsewhere, like fixing your spelling?
The inventor of metric threads was probably a transgendered athlete also. 
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: MillCreek on May 13, 2020, 12:00:14 PM
I like to learn something every day, and the explanation of metric threads was fascinating.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: dogmush on May 13, 2020, 01:45:10 PM
Metric threads were obviously designed by somebody who had never seen or operated a screw machine. UNC threads (along with pre-metrification Whitworth threads, Italian threads, and yes even French threads) except for a few oddball sizes have pitches which are multiples of each other (2, 4, 8, 16, 18, 20, 24, 28, 30, 32...) or at least even numbers, so they can easily be made on a lathe with a single lead-screw with an even pitch. Metric thread pitches are completely arbitrary so there is no single lathe lead-screw which will work the same way; if you have a 2mm leadscrew on your lathe you can make 2mm threads the normal way but F you for most of the others. There was nothing stopping them from making metric thread pitches a regular series, but they didn't even know enough to do it. Ironically, it was probably decreed by some revolutionary who just finished overthrowing the aristocracy and replacing the arbitrary units system, who didn't even know better. So we all get to keep the famous 127-tooth lathe gear around for the rest of eternity so we can make metric threads. Way to make things better guys. Couldn't you have spent your energy elsewhere, like fixing your spelling?

Run the leadscrew with a servo and a rotary encoder.

But yes, metric threads are stupid.
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Ben on August 18, 2020, 11:46:58 PM
Well, this is disappointing. A Trump appointed judge, of all people, has placed an injunction on an Idaho law that would have banned men from competing as women. I was hoping for better from the Trump appointed judges.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/08/18/trump-appointed-idaho-judge-places-injunction-on-act-that-would-bar-biological-males-from-competing-in-womens-sports/
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Post by: MechAg94 on August 19, 2020, 10:23:05 AM
So it was a 14th amendment decision.  Did he have his hands tied by past SC decisions? 
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 19, 2020, 11:02:43 AM
How does the 14th Amendment govern this case?
Title: Re: Transgendered athletes -- maybe the worm is turning?
Post by: griz on August 19, 2020, 05:23:39 PM
(along with pre-metrification Whitworth threads, Italian threads, and yes even French threads)

My theory is that Whitworth fasteners use transgendered threads.