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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ron on March 15, 2020, 01:13:04 PM
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30 day poll.
You can change your count as situation changes.
Only count those you have met personally unless otherwise indicated.
We're a pretty small sample spread out throughout the country but it may be interesting.
We can discuss local cases to us but counts are only for personally known friends, family or acquantences.
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Zero as of today
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No one as yet.
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Zip
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Zero for me. At the level outlined in the OP, I would guess this will apply to at least 70% of the population.
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Zero here.
My buddy claims there is a couple being treated in our local hospital.
Haven't seen any news reports about locally infected folks.
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So far zero.
But I didn't attend either of the 2 local gun shows being held this weekend. I decided months ago to avoid these shows not because of Chinese Wuhan virus (which was barely on my domestic radar then) but rather because March is still the tail end of regular flu season and I didn't want to rub elbows with someone sneezing and coughing up flu germs.
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My wife is a hypochondriac.
You may able to guess how this is affecting me.
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Zero. Affected me, I have a crud, not visiting my dad just in case. Avoiding him when sick has been standard MO for a few years, sniffles for me is hospitalized pneumonia for him.
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I personally know of four right now, all healthcare workers of my acquaintance.
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They are now reporting one in my county.
Woman in her 60's, a resident of a nursing home.
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One in my daughter’s school district and one parent. None closer than that confirmed.
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Woo hoo, I get to vote. At least if my wife counts.
There is one person in Ohio who has tested positive in my wife's home county, who used to go to their church when she was young.
So there.
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Zero and hoping to keep it that way.
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Zero here
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Results aren't back yet but my sister developed symptoms this weekend. She works in the hospital.
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Bedlamite I hope she comes through it OK if she has it
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Looked today, under a hundred cases in Illinois. Just saw first case announced in the county next to us. Closest I'm aware of.
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Zip
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I have a friend in Italy (close friend of my sis).
Her and her husband have stayed home for a week. They had contact with a friend who ended up being infected.
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Western NC is still holding at zero.
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Feeling "off" today, and can hear gravel in my voice. Normally not enough to stay home, but these days, yes I will.
I've got a crapton of vacation/sick time hours, that the bookkeeper keeps bugging me to use.
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First two cases at the hospital where Mrs. Mush works were confirmed this morning.
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One of my coworkers has "respiratory symptoms," so the boss asked him to take off for 2 weeks, or until he can be tested.
They also canceled my upcoming trip to Phoenix. You've been spared, Arizona.
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And you've been spared Arizona.
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Nothing so far. There have been cases that popped up in surrounding counties.
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I wonder how many people have had it and didn't realize it so they don't add to the numbers. I would also bet there are a number who have had it, did realize it, got through it, and don't want to publicize.
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My cousin tested positive in ATL yesterday.
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I had a person post on one of my FB friend's page that she knew personally of 7 people who had it. Why? Because they were tested for Influenza and that came back negative so they MUST have Covid-19 even though they weren't tested for it. :facepalm:
bob
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I had a person post on one of my FB friend's page that she knew personally of 7 people who had it. Why? Because they were tested for Influenza and that came back negative so they MUST have Covid-19 even though they weren't tested for it. :facepalm:
bob
Are they self diagnosed celiacs as well?
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How long has it actually been around? First I heard of it was in the APS "China quarantines a whole city" thread*.
But back in late September, early October, I had about the worst "flu" I ever had about two-three weeks after I went to the ER for something. Son2 had about the same thing soon after that, but we had not had actual contact beyond phone and e-mail.
Now I'm hearing it was apparently around before the Chinese quarantine.
Terry
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How long has it actually been around? First I heard of it was in the APS "China quarantines a whole city" thread*.
But back in late September, early October, I had about the worst "flu" I ever had about two-three weeks after I went to the ER for something. Son2 had about the same thing soon after that, but we had not had actual contact beyond phone and e-mail.
Now I'm hearing it was apparently around before the Chinese quarantine.
Terry
Similar story here. I got hit a few days after an appointment with my endo. Late January. I think it was the worst I've ever felt in my life! Wife got hit to a lower degree, but still pretty rough. Son (who is only 35) got hit, but damn near shrugged it off like "regular flu".
Some observations that I have:
Lost my appetite entirely. My favorite foods would turn my stomach and disgust me. Smells were distorted. Nominally "good" smells smelled like rot and decay.
I'm type 2 diabetic. The lost appetite was reflected in some exceptionally low glucose levels. I took to carrying a secondary meter with me and testing multiple times a day. Sometimes hourly. Luckily, i could get glucose tablets down. Bananas and orange juice were palatable, and helped after emergency sugar tablet therapy. This all helped to sap my energy and strength.
Sleep was fitful. ( I did NOT misspell "sleep with Fistful"! [barf] ) Had dreams like I had when I was on nicotine patches, but darker. Almost hallucinogenic. Concepts took physical form. For example: I've been playing with making better coffee lately. (Presses, Aeropress, 3 different pour-overs) I had this time when a non-defined coffee-making step was (in my mind) a fan belt with a pulley, that was also in some way tied to a stretch of road. All 3 of these things were one. This happened during a period of lucid sleep. It was... disturbing.
Sensitivity to light. Mostly to white light. Went to work ( I know! At this point I was just thinking a really bad case of "something". Also, although I get 120 hours of sick time per year, I get punished for calling in sick. Still took 4 days off, though.) Anyway, as I walked through the parking lot at about 3:30 a.m., I saw that the 2 LED lamps at the employee entrance had apparently been upgraded. They were SO damn bright! It was like some dystopian Nazi camp movie. I had to look off to the side and shield my eyes with my hand as I approached from well over 100 feet away. When I got to the, I looked and they were the same lights that have been there for many years.
Tired of typing now. Going to eat dinner and get some sleep. Tomorrow is my Friday. Appetite is back. I have self-adjusted my meds downwards considerably, and glucose levels are doing good now.
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Interesting. My Son2 (see above) is 46 and has frequent contact with medical places and personnel since he's type 1 diabetic. I'll ask him if he had weird dreams. I did not, myself, that I recall, but some things do give me bizarre dreams.
Sleep was fitful. ( I did NOT misspell "sleep with Fistful"! )
Ha-ha-ha. Cuttin' pretty close to the edge there, Mr. Daddy.
Terry
P.S. Caught it on the TV a while ago: Commierado's Governor has ordered that all sit-down restaurants and bars will be closed for the duration. I'm not going to question his authority on that one. (Drive-throughs and store pickups are OK.)
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P.S. Caught it on the TV a while ago: Commierado's Governor has ordered that all sit-down restaurants and bars will be closed for the duration. I'm not going to question his authority on that one. (Drive-throughs and store pickups are OK.)
Looks like every state has done that, or will. My state and all the surrounding states have done that.
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I work from home, so other than having the kids home from their high school, disruption has been minimal. Thank God we got gigabit fiber at our house last fall. I don't notice any change to the work VPN when they're all on at the same time doing school work.
I did notice that performance sucks on some of my customer's remote access portals, probably from everyone working at home.
A mild-ish bug or bugs has been working it's way through our house for the past month. Nausea, GI cramps, chills. I've heard of atypical Covid presentations having similar symptoms, but I think it's all just "last gasp of winter" viruses. Half of my kid's school was out with it two weeks ago.
I'm personally worried about getting it because I have Type 2 diabetes, a BMI north of 30, high blood pressure, and now I've just seen an article suggesting that Type A blood is more susceptible to Covid. Other than being 47 instead of in my 60's plus, I feel as though I've got every risk factor going for a bad case besides smoking. =|
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Someone my wife knows. Her husband has it, and is in ICU.
Our family practice dr posted a rant about tests yesterday. He's seen over a dozen people just himself, he's in a multi doctor practice, who meet the criteria for a test, but his practice has only 5 tests. We're in a small town.
Our union just released a statement. 1 at the DC HQ, one who was already on telework managed to catch it somehow, 1 at the flight service office in Chicago.
Word is that Albany tower has several employees being tested.
Since we all work on shared workstations, it's only a matter of time before it spreads in an ATC facility. The FAA is so far behind on sending people home. It's been business as usual at work so far, and they're not even conducting their first telework test until wed to make sure the servers can handle it.
On top of that, all the side bullshit that goes on is still going on. We had a parking lot security briefing Monday by an outside contractor.
I'm pretty much expected to be at work even if I have co workers test positive.
The least the FAA could do is clear the *expletive deleted*ing building of people who aren't at the pointy end.
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I work from home, so other than having the kids home from their high school, disruption has been minimal. Thank God we got gigabit fiber at our house last fall. I don't notice any change to the work VPN when they're all on at the same time doing school work.
I did notice that performance sucks on some of my customer's remote access portals, probably from everyone working at home.
A mild-ish bug or bugs has been working it's way through our house for the past month. Nausea, GI cramps, chills. I've heard of atypical Covid presentations having similar symptoms, but I think it's all just "last gasp of winter" viruses. Half of my kid's school was out with it two weeks ago.
I'm personally worried about getting it because I have Type 2 diabetes, a BMI north of 30, high blood pressure, and now I've just seen an article suggesting that Type A blood is more susceptible to Covid. Other than being 47 instead of in my 60's plus, I feel as though I've got every risk factor going for a bad case besides smoking. =|
People forget it's still cold and flu season. Plenty of bugs going around like normal to get sick from.
Our friend's husband who has it, he's in his 40's. Overweight but I'm not sure what other risk factors he has. He's in ICU.
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Our family practice dr posted a rant about tests yesterday. He's seen over a dozen people just himself, he's in a multi doctor practice, who meet the criteria for a test, but his practice has only 5 tests.
Here in Seattle, we still have an acute shortage of test kits and swabs. We could be testing thousands of people if we had the kits. LabCorp, a huge national laboratory chain, has just started offering tests, but they went through the existing stock in milliseconds, and are awaiting more kits. Lots of complaints on the local FB pages about clinics 'refusing to test people', and they just don't understand that until and unless the test kit spigot opens up, we have to apply the CDC/state health department criteria on testing.
Priority right now is going to acutely ill people and healthcare workers. We need to test the healthcare workers after exposure so we know if they can safely be returned to work. Otherwise, our healthcare system will grind to a halt with all the physicians, nurses and respiratory therapists self-quarantining at home for two weeks. But if someone's test comes back negative after 48 hours, I can return that nurse to the floor.
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Here in Seattle, we still have an acute shortage of test kits and swabs. We could be testing thousands of people if we had the kits. LabCorp, a huge national laboratory chain, has just started offering tests, but they went through the existing stock in milliseconds, and are awaiting more kits. Lots of complaints on the local FB pages about clinics 'refusing to test people', and they just don't understand that until and unless the test kit spigot opens up, we have to apply the CDC/state health department criteria on testing.
Priority right now is going to acutely ill people and healthcare workers. We need to test the healthcare workers after exposure so we know if they can safely be returned to work. Otherwise, our healthcare system will grind to a halt with all the physicians, nurses and respiratory therapists self-quarantining at home for two weeks. But if someone's test comes back negative after 48 hours, I can return that nurse to the floor.
Much of the point I've been trying to get across to people. We keep our health care system afloat by slowing this thing down.
On top of sheer volume, if we're getting all the health care people sick, they won't be able to work, and the system will grind to a halt.
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https://www.kuow.org/stories/hospital-workers
This is what is giving us the vapors right now, especially the ED physician from Evergreen. Evergreen has been ground zero of the hospital response, since all the LifeCare patients from Kirkland have gone there. With this physician using all the PPE, including a PAPR, how did he contract the virus? What does this mean for ED and hospital staff in general?
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It sounds like there's going to be a decision on operations at my location coming out sometime today. No clue what it's going to be, how it's going to be implemented, whether it will be a full, partial, or no shut down...
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People forget it's still cold and flu season. Plenty of bugs going around like normal to get sick from.
That's what I suspect I've got right now. This season's "whatever's going 'round". Still, work is a soup with 12-15 people in and out of a building a bit larger than a suburban ranch house, and I don't want to spread the cheer.
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I'm personally worried about getting it because I have Type 2 diabetes, a BMI north of 30, high blood pressure, and now I've just seen an article suggesting that Type A blood is more susceptible to Covid. Other than being 47 instead of in my 60's plus, I feel as though I've got every risk factor going for a bad case besides smoking.
Everything is same for me except blood type...
On a positive note, Since kicking my STBX wife out of the house, I literally didn't eat anything for 2 weeks, and lost about 15 lbs. I've exercised like mad over the last few weeks, running on adrenaline, from the shock of going through a divorce to the euphoria of making a killing on the markets. I'm starting to normalize again though.
Every time I cough, or my throat feels itchy, or I have to blow my nose, I get a little on edge.
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Not sure how much stock I put into this stuff but here it is
https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/coronavirus-your-blood-type-may-make-you-more-vulnerable-says-study-1.1584446718257
Beijing: People with blood group 'A' may be more prone to the new coronavirus (COVID-19) infection while those with blood type 'O' have a lower risk of contracting the deadly virus, a first-of-its-kind study claimed on Tuesday.
They found that blood type A patients showed a higher rate of infection and developed more severe symptoms.
Of 206 patients, 85 had type A blood - 63 per cent more than the infected 52 who had type O.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't O the most common type?
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Oh boy, I'm AB+...
I wonder how badly that's going to screw me over...
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In the United States, the average distribution of blood types is as follows:
O-positive: 38 percent.
O-negative: 7 percent.
A-positive: 34 percent.
A-negative: 6 percent.
B-positive: 9 percent.
B-negative: 2 percent.
AB-positive: 3 percent.
AB-negative: 1 percent.
May 2, 2018
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=blood+type+percentages
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It may have helped if I had read further in the study link
According to a study in the US National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI), 'O' is the most common blood group (37.12 per cent) in India, closely followed by B at 32.26 per cent, followed by A at 22.88 per cent while AB was the least prevalent group at 7.74 per cent.
In the US, about 44 per cent of the population is type O, while about 41 per cent is type A.
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https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=blood+type+percentages
Even more interesting in that Blood types are skewed even further away from A+ in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_distribution_by_country
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I was just looking for that, thanks
Looks like China is ~48% O (+&-) vs ~28% A
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My new PCP was more concerned about the fact that I didn't have a flu shot and gave me a vaccine for pneumonia. Her only comment to me about Corvid-19 was "Don't get it."
I am high risk. A study came out of Europe showed that patients with adrenal insufficiency are even more screwed than other immunosuppressed patients. *shrug* But then again, the regular flu can screw me over too.
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Moved to a new thread.
Terry
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Former coworker and friend of a friend apparently has symptoms. Haven't seen or communicated with the guy in over 10 years though so I'm sticking with 0 in the poll for now.
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Headline in SWVA this morning: Still no cases in our region.
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Not a known case, but personal impact:
My deployment just got extended.
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Not a known case, but personal impact:
My deployment just got extended.
That sucks, man. As I recall, you weren't happy about this one in the first place.
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Still a few degrees of separation away.
Shipping worker at my site self-quarantined after his wife had contact with someone confirmed infected.
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My new PCP was more concerned about the fact that I didn't have a flu shot and gave me a vaccine for pneumonia. Her only comment to me about Corvid-19 was "Don't get it."
I am high risk. A study came out of Europe showed that patients with adrenal insufficiency are even more screwed than other immunosuppressed patients. *shrug* But then again, the regular flu can screw me over too.
Pneumovax was the worst reaction I've ever gotten from a shot. Weak, and chills, and felt like I had a significant case of the flu. Hopefully that means it really "took" with me.
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Pneumovax was the worst reaction I've ever gotten from a shot. Weak, and chills, and felt like I had a significant case of the flu. Hopefully that means it really "took" with me.
Hmm. I had that one last spring and it didn't cause me any problems at all.
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Hmm. I had that one last spring and it didn't cause me any problems at all.
It was Pneumovax and Flu at the same time so that could have been why, but I've never reacted to a Flu shot before. Not even a bit of aches, sniffles, or the post nasal sore throat type stuff they warn you about over the next 72 hours.
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It was Pneumovax and Flu at the same time so that could have been why, but I've never reacted to a Flu shot before. Not even a bit of aches, sniffles, or the post nasal sore throat type stuff they warn you about over the next 72 hours.
I quit getting the flu shot because I had a reaction almost every time. The straw for me was i got the shot one year, had a reaction with mild flu symptoms, and then 2 months later caught the full blown flu for a few days.
I've had better luck with not getting the shot.
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It was Pneumovax and Flu at the same time so that could have been why, but I've never reacted to a Flu shot before. Not even a bit of aches, sniffles, or the post nasal sore throat type stuff they warn you about over the next 72 hours.
I refused the Flu shot....last time I got one a few years back, I got pretty sick, as in the first time I ever got the flu.
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With four kids and a wife who's got anemia everybody gets sick in my house but me. Or I get a really mild case, some sniffles, a minor sore throat, or a gut cramp or two. It's been years and years since I've truly felt ill from an actual virus.
Since I've got all the risk factors other than age, I'm really hoping that pattern holds for me with Covid, that I've got a really good immune system or some other factor going on, because living in this petri dish, I can't fathom it's luck.
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With four kids and a wife who's got anemia everybody gets sick in my house but me. Or I get a really mild case, some sniffles, a minor sore throat, or a gut cramp or two. It's been years and years since I've truly felt ill from an actual virus.
Since I've got all the risk factors other than age, I'm really hoping that pattern holds for me with Covid, that I've got a really good immune system or some other factor going on, because living in this petri dish, I can't fathom it's luck.
I survived Human Parvovirus- I wanted to die for weeks. I hope Covid-19 isn't as bad.
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Our site puts out treats every Wednesday morning- donuts, fruit, Hummus+Pita chips, yogurt, muffins, or bagels. Wednesday treats are now cancelled until further notice because of the the wuflu.
Its time to nuke China.
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Pneumovax was the worst reaction I've ever gotten from a shot. Weak, and chills, and felt like I had a significant case of the flu. Hopefully that means it really "took" with me.
I haven't noticed anything but I have had symptoms of my cortisol being lower since I got it. =|
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For some reason I decided to get a flu shot this year. The last flu shot I had was in 1991, the flu season before I got out of the Navy. I used to routinely go 2+ years between getting any nasty winter time bugs. I think in large part because I tend to avoid people. After they moved me to the big office int Downtown Tulsa two years ago I've been sick twice. So far (knock wood) I haven't been sick this season.
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Mrs. B. will be caring for her elderly parents all by herself. Cleaning, cooking, all manner of things. Their home-care people have been cancelled and wife’s sister was exposed to someone who was exposed to someone who was positive.
😡
JB
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Stepson and his wife are doing a self-quarantine in the two back bedrooms of their house. They are trying to keep their two daughters from catching their illness. Both have been diagnosed with...oh, wait. Never mind, it's just the flu.
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Guy at work is quarantined with his wife because she had contact (presumably at her work) with someone who has tested positive.
No known cases in the company yet. I’m pretty much going only to work and grocery store (as needed) till this is done with
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I'm pretty much grocery store and the woods only right now. I have visited with a buddy a couple times.
He had a Reme Halo air purifier in stock so I picked it up from him today and installed it in my furnace.
Zoiks!! The house smells like a fresh spring day after a good rain after only two hours with the fan on the on position
. Should have done this a long time ago!
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Well, so far it's shut down 3 atc facilities. 1 (JFK) hasn't been shut down, which should be a scandal.
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I'm in an epicenter region. National Guard is deployed one county over. And it is hitting my work circles (courts) pretty hard. With the various state and local States of Emergency, everything is shut down. Grocery stores are empty of core items.
I'm a bit frustrated as leaving my slow time of year for general practice, now, well, no court, so not much lawyering to be done. My house is well stocked and hopefully between the cat and wife, my sanity will hold.
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I was scrambling (ok, just working) to get ready for working from home next week.
Among the things I've had to do is let my laptop update to the newest version of Windows 10. I don't use my laptop at home very often...
So, looks like I'll be among the home workers starting next week. I'm thinking to set up my office on our patio.
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Well, so far it's shut down 3 atc facilities. 1 (JFK) hasn't been shut down, which should be a scandal.
Which ones?
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I'm thinking to set up my office on our patio.
At this point, I'm expected to work from home until the first Monday in April. I'm hoping it gets extended. I'm also hoping the weather cooperates and I can work from the deck soon.
It's probably wrong of me to be grateful for the current situation allowing me to work from home.
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Well, so far it's shut down 3 atc facilities. 1 (JFK) hasn't been shut down, which should be a scandal.
At this rate they will be manning the ATC facilities with people in quarantine just so they can keep them open. I mean, if you are already sick...… Maybe I should try for a leadership position with the FAA, I have tons of ideas. ;)
bob
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At this rate they will be manning the ATC facilities with people in quarantine just so they can keep them open. I mean, if you are already sick...… Maybe I should try for a leadership position with the FAA, I have tons of ideas. ;)
bob
:laugh:
The FAA, typical of government, is too feckless to make serious leadership decisions. They just finally ordered all non-essential staff out yesterday. Two days after the first ATCT went down.
The only way to make this manageable is to order the airlines to reduce or halt non-cargo flights (yes, some airline flights also haul freight). The only ATC service should be offered for Cargo, military, and medevacs. All non essential ATC services should be terminated. Take all facilities down to skeleton crews.
Major disruptions are happening because traffic hasn't decreased, and then a facility goes down by CDC order for cleaning and testing, and now everyone gets delayed because the air carriers are flying around empty planes. Labcorp planes or fedex shouldn't be holding for an empty United flight.
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The girl that shares my office is married to a Alaska Air pilot. His flights have been cancelled for today, he only had two vs his usual more. Traffic in and out of Vegas, Seattle, and other large facilities had dwindled to nothing. With Vegas (the city) shut down no need for flights going there.
bob
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The girl that shares my office is married to a Alaska Air pilot. His flights have been cancelled for today, he only had two vs his usual more. Traffic in and out of Vegas, Seattle, and other large facilities had dwindled to nothing. With Vegas (the city) shut down no need for flights going there.
bob
I thought Big Brother could remotely pilot commercial airliners . . . maybe they should get on that.
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I thought Big Brother could remotely pilot commercial airliners . . . maybe they should get on that.
Not even close
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Couldn't quite figure out where to put this... I guess here is as good as any...
My Grandmother was born in 1906, and was 12-13 when the Spanish Influenza hit.
She talked about it occasionally. I wasn't really old enough to fully understand what she was saying, or its overall meaning, but the one thing I distinctly remember is her saying you could tell which houses had flu patients because the windows were wide open in the dead of winter.
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I was looking up racist sounding diseases yesterday and remembered the German Measles:
There was a pandemic of rubella between 1962 and 1965, starting in Europe and spreading to the United States.[46] In the years 1964–65, the United States had an estimated 12.5 million rubella cases. This led to 11,000 miscarriages or therapeutic abortions and 20,000 cases of congenital rubella syndrome. Of these, 2,100 died as neonates, 12,000 were deaf, 3,580 were blind, and 1,800 were intellectually disabled. In New York alone, CRS affected 1% of all births.[50][51]
I'm pretty sure I got the MMR shot when I was a kid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella
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Couldn't quite figure out where to put this... I guess here is as good as any...
My Grandmother was born in 1906, and was 12-13 when the Spanish Influenza hit.
She talked about it occasionally. I wasn't really old enough to fully understand what she was saying, or its overall meaning, but the one thing I distinctly remember is her saying you could tell which houses had flu patients because the windows were wide open in the dead of winter.
What was the reasoning behind that?
Terry
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That was apparently one of the suggested treatments back then.
There's some evidence that such treatment might have been helpful.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504358/
Here's another article with a very interesting picture.
https://www.docsteach.org/documents/document/window-open-influenza-poster-trolley
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Shreveport, LA: Grocery shelves are EMPTY of staple items and TP. Went to the VA for Chemo today and had cops at the street entrance checking for a VA card and asking the required questions; nurse/staff at main entrance point us to the only 2 open entrances; Cop(s) and staff at bldg entrance checking the questions AND if you have an appointment, no appointment? No admittance! Not a patient? No entrance!
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That was apparently one of the suggested treatments back then.
There's some evidence that such treatment might have been helpful.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504358/
Here's another article with a very interesting picture.
https://www.docsteach.org/documents/document/window-open-influenza-poster-trolley
I remember my mom telling me the "open window / fresh air" response was common for all kinds of illnesses in Hungary and Germany - at least in the villages.
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TMO (ThermoFisher Scientific) is holding pretty strong.
We are producing millions of Covid test kits for the foreseeable future.
Even before the world changed, it was a solid stock to own.
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May have to change my vote soon.
One former coworker is very ill with a hacking cough and fever. Mind you, this is the same coworker who didn't think drinking tequila on an empty stomach would make her sick, so it's up in the air if she actually has corona virus or she just stuck her head in a smoking chimney for funnies and maybe has a raging bacteria infection since she doesn't seem to understand Hygiene (She notoriously smells FOUL on a daily basis)
The second is the she/he who replaced me. I've never actually met Jasper. She/he is self quarantined because two family members are sick.
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My wife's preschool, which barely even takes snow days, has finally decided to close down for the next two weeks. She's getting paid, but then she has about 200 hrs of vacation time, so...
At work, we've taken a few steps to limit physical contact with customers. Turns out our customers aren't missing my hugs and kisses as much as I thought they would!
The church bus is a pretty important ministry for our church. We pick up dozens of kids whose parents won't darken our door-step. We also pick up a few people too poor or disabled to make their own way. We won't be making any pick-ups for a while (at least in theory). We've been live-streaming our services for a few months now, so that's all set up.
My wife was so worried about China-virus, she didn't even want to go to the store with me last night. Hopefully, being away from Negative Nelly at work will help with that.
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I'm in a Facebook group, full of mostly raging leftists. (Gunsmith, it's your fault.)
Anyway, someone started a thread today with
has anyone had an ex reach out during this time? what did they say? did you respond? how did it make you feel? (i'm feeling hella nosy right now.)
OK, whatever. A bit further down someone responds with:
Yes BUT Im also guilty of the same. I'm mid-relocation to an old Craigslist f***buddy's place because he's the only one able to host me since my housemate refuses to self isolate and stay out of common spaces despite me having two autoimmune disorders and her showing respiratory symptoms. Apparently my health wasn't voted on "democratically" and she's "a working mom" so she's allowed to use the house as she feels despite a pandemic. I don't think I've ever dealt with this much entitlement from another person before however I'm thankful a random I've hung out with maybe 4 or 5 times since 2015 is willing to open their home.
(He's in San Francisco, BTW. Surprise!)
Oh. My. Goodness.
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May have to change my vote soon.
One former coworker is very ill with a hacking cough and fever. Mind you, this is the same coworker who didn't think drinking tequila on an empty stomach would make her sick, so it's up in the air if she actually has corona virus or she just stuck her head in a smoking chimney for funnies and maybe has a raging bacteria infection since she doesn't seem to understand Hygiene (She notoriously smells FOUL on a daily basis)
The second is the she/he who replaced me. I've never actually met Jasper. She/he is self quarantined because two family members are sick.
It doesn't help that it's still normal cold and flu season, and allergies are kicking up. Definitely kicks up the paranoia factor!
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I thought Big Brother could remotely pilot commercial airliners . . . maybe they should get on that.
Nah, they just control the chem trail release.
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I was looking up racist sounding diseases yesterday and remembered the German Measles:
I'm pretty sure I got the MMR shot when I was a kid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubella
Mom took us to a measles "party". =|
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Here's a personal impact: my children were running through the house from each other shouting "She's the coronavirus!"
So my children have a new game out of this.
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One guy at work (they aren't saying who) is "under investigation for Covid-19".
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One guy at work (they aren't saying who) is "under investigation for Covid-19".
The larger chemical plant that my company is in said they had a suspected case, but I heard today it was proven negative.
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*expletive deleted*it *expletive deleted*it *expletive deleted*it.
It’s literally don the street from me. I go by this place almost every day to take the dog to the park. :mad:
https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/national-guard-medical-unit-dispatched-to-grafton-long-term-care-facility
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Just found out a lawyer I know if positive. Good news, haven't seen him in a couple of months. Bad news, he has some underlying health issues which could make it bad.
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I haven't voted yet since the people I know with symptoms have not been able to get tested.
As of yesterday they were told that there still weren't enough tests and to be eligible you had to be a healthcare worker, in assisted living, or are hospitalized.
:mad:
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I haven't voted yet since the people I know with symptoms have not been able to get tested.
As of yesterday they were told that there still weren't enough tests and to be eligible you had to be a healthcare worker, in assisted living, or are hospitalized.
:mad:
Technically that's s zero vote.
We can change our votes when our situations change.
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Dow Chemical down here on the Gulf Coast is checking people's temperature on the way in the gate. They are using an infrared temp gun. I don't have a temperature apparently. I was told one of our guys saw someone ahead of them turned away.
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Dow Chemical down here on the Gulf Coast is checking people's temperature on the way in the gate. They are using an infrared temp gun. I don't have a temperature apparently. I was told one of our guys saw someone ahead of them turned away.
I read that Micron in Boise has been doing that for the last couple of weeks. I guess it's one part of being safe rather than sorry, but I'm guessing there's a younger than average workforce there, so "temperature checks" are going to miss all the asymptomatic carriers.
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I read that Micron in Boise has been doing that for the last couple of weeks. I guess it's one part of being safe rather than sorry, but I'm guessing there's a younger than average workforce there, so "temperature checks" are going to miss all the asymptomatic carriers.
I just figured it was the only thing they could really do with the resources they have. At least screen out the actively sick.
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Until there is widespread testing we're flying blind.
For those blaming the Trump administration for being late to the party the Chinese government and WHO were still saying there was no community spread the week before Trump shut down flights from China.
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For those blaming the Trump administration the Chinese government and WHO were still saying there was no community spread the week before Trump shut down flights from China.
Not that it's time to be political, but I will. Time to call out all the lefties that were yelling "racism!" and "xenophobia!" when Trump started restricting border entries. Gotta wonder how many more known (and unknown) infections we would have if those restrictions weren't put in place because of the screaming of "the squad", the MSM, celebrities, etc.
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Not that it's time to be political, but I will. Time to call out all the lefties that were yelling "racism!" and "xenophobia!" when Trump started restricting border entries. Gotta wonder how many more known (and unknown) infections we would have if those restrictions weren't put in place because of the screaming of "the squad", the MSM, celebrities, etc.
Where were our intelligence services during all if this? Nobody on the ground in Wuhan? Nobody listening in on coms? Wrong thread but a lot of this just feels off.
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Where were our intelligence services during all if this? Nobody on the ground in Wuhan? Nobody listening in on coms? Wrong thread but a lot of this just feels off.
According to "unnamed sources" they were warning about it. Being top secret intelligence stuff though, I'm not sure you're going to get a clear picture of what they saw & what they said - and it's certainly not going to be spun in a positive manner for Trump.
U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.
The intelligence reports didn’t predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.
The warnings from U.S. intelligence agencies increased in volume toward the end of January and into early February, said officials familiar with the reports. By then, a majority of the intelligence reporting included in daily briefing papers and digests from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA was about covid-19, said officials who have read the reports.
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According to "unnamed sources" they were warning about it. Being top secret intelligence stuff though, I'm not sure you're going to get a clear picture of what they saw & what they said - and it's certainly not going to be spun in a positive manner for Trump.
Makes sense, that's why Trump shut down air travel from China at the end of January.
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One week into our APS tracking and about 20% of us know first hand of someone infected.
That's not a good number IMHO.
Nobody has posted first hand knowledge of anyone who hasn't survived infection.
Still early but that's a slight silver lining.
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My cousin and her husband caught it and recovered. It wasn't too bad for them, they are both in their late 30's.
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Two three four cases in my county now.
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I had to change my vote today...
A sister of a friend of mine was just diagnosed with it in Northern WI yesterday. She's a nurse and was describing it as "Feeling like my lungs are full of broken glass when I breathe." She is 41.
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I had to change my vote today...
A sister of a friend of mine was just diagnosed with it in Northern WI yesterday. She's a nurse and was describing it as "Feeling like my lungs are full of broken glass when I breathe." She is 41.
That sucks...
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Horrifying...
Because business is slow, and also to keep from having so many people together in place, we'll be working alternate days for a while. I have loads of work to do at home, so I'm going to look at the bright side of it.
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Horrifying...
Because business is slow, and also to keep from having so many people together in place, we'll be working alternate days for a while. I have loads of work to do at home, so I'm going to look at the bright side of it.
You've got to admit this is a good time of year to be stuck at home. Spring cleaning, getting the gardens and lawn set up for the summer, home repairs, and still have plenty of time left over to sit out on the porch and enjoy the springtime.
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You've got to admit this is a good time of year to be stuck at home. Spring cleaning, getting the gardens and lawn set up for the summer, home repairs, and still have plenty of time left over to sit out on the porch and enjoy the springtime.
March Madness on the TV. oh wait.....
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Good news, my sister is better. Never did get a test, even though she works at the hospital.
Bad news, I just got laid off.
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Good news, my sister is better. Never did get a test, even though she works at the hospital.
Bad news, just got laid off.
You did, or she did?
I may as well be, for a while. Minimal calls, even with my work phone forwarded to my cell. A couple computers came in that I'd ordered for people. I went in and grabbed them to prep in my little isolated nook.
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March Madness on the TV. oh wait.....
See, any other year I would laugh at you... But I have just discovered the fascination for F1 racing. I was all set to watch it, too. Actually got the ESPN streaming app loaded up and everything... :facepalm:
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See, any other year I would laugh at you... But I have just discovered the fascination for F1 racing. I was all set to watch it, too. Actually got the ESPN streaming app loaded up and everything... :facepalm:
Once all of that comes back you should add Moto GP to your viewing schedule. :)
bob
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A hospitalized Covid-19 patient is more than likely going to die alone without seeing family due to vistor restrictions. Something to think about if you think this no big deal.
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I have locked myself in the cabin for now. I've been coughing my head off most of the afternoon and head is pounding sore throat and the shakes. I think it is just a head cold or sinuses but I'll stay away from the girls in case I get a fever.
Not like I don't hide out here most of the time anyway. I hate people in general. There are a few exceptions around here.
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A hospitalized Covid-19 patient is more than likely going to die alone without seeing family due to vistor restrictions. Something to think about if you think this no big deal.
https://youtu.be/Txk7MxsyVMw?t=10
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March Madness on the TV. oh wait.....
March Madness means something a little different for 2020.
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I'm going to log about 65 hrs of work this week... but I'm salaried, so I get paid for 40 :laugh:
Our CEO sent out a message stating something along the lines of "Thank you very much for your dedication and efforts in these hard times.... we all have to make sacrifices...blah blah blah.... your merit raises are on hold until further notice"
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I'm going to log about 65 hrs of work this week... but I'm salaried, so I get paid for 40 :laugh:
Our CEO sent out a message stating something along the lines of "Thank you very much for your dedication and efforts in these hard times.... we all have to make sacrifices...blah blah blah.... your merit raises are on hold until further notice"
First it was no merit raise and work less hours from home for my daughter, now it has become a 90 day furlough with no pay. Single mom with an autistic son, this is not a good thing for her (or millions of others in the same boat).
bob
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First it was no merit raise and work less hours from home for my daughter, now it has become a 90 day furlough with no pay. Single mom with an autistic son, this is not a good thing for her (or millions of others in the same boat).
bob
I'm not complaining too much. I still have a job for the foreseeable future, and I really don't have anything better to do for now than work.
Work, eat, sleep. If I didn't have a dog at home that needs to be walked and taken care of at home, I'd probably just set up a cot in an empty office in my work site.
Life has never been simpler.
I'll worry about the bills and legal issues later.
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I am very thankful my job continues on as I can work just as effectively at home as I can at the office. Unfortunately, the people I am supporting have much of their job put on hold, but I have a massive amount of work that will be just as valuable when they can start working again as it would be right now.
Also, we're prepping for a new computer system in 4 months, so I already had more work than I could do before then. We aren't concerned about my job.
My wife, however, has had almost all of her lessons cancelled. Only a couple have moved to online lessons. Her gigs have all been cancelled as well, so the "stimulus" check might cover her lost income.
Again, we aren't reliant on that income, but it's still nice to have. I'm well aware there are lot of people who are reliant on income of that sort that has just disappeared. I hope, like Trump, we're up and going before Easter, as well.
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Just laid off from my new retirement gig yesterday after only a week and a half. So I guess I have been directly affected by the CV, just not by infection.
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We went to an A-team/B-team arrangement. After today, I get to work from home until next Tuesday. Fun.
I heard the parent facility we work inside has 2 confirmed cases in the area with 5 or 6 more possibles. They are taking people's temperature on the way in during shift change and plan to expand that. I don't think my company has any confirmed cases in the US yet.
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I was declared essential on Monday 3/16 and have been reporting to a very empty office (only 5 people out of a 110) since then. Everyone else in the company with the exception of 5 of us are WFH. We had an all call and things are okay for us right now. SWMBO works for a school district here, the same one that the kiddos go to, and they are currently on spring break.
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I was declared essential on Monday 3/16 and have been reporting to a very empty office (only 5 people out of a 110) since then. Everyone else in the company with the exception of 5 of us are WFH. We had an all call and things are okay for us right now. SWMBO works for a school district here, the same one that the kiddos go to, and they are currently on spring break.
Our parties dog farm up front is completely empty, only 4 managers left up front. It’s weird.
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Our parties dog farm up front is completely empty, only 4 managers left up front. It’s weird.
.... either you have some misspellings or are using jargon I'm not familiar with.
Dog Farm?
Parties?
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I work from home always, except when I travel to customer factories which is all on hold until Covid is over, or things relax.
The company HQ in Canada went to work from home for everybody, and it's actually been an improvement as we all communicate over teams for voice and text anyway. And the at-home guys don't have the usual office goings-on to pull them away from me when I need one of them for something. They're more responsive and get back to me quicker, possibly because they now can relate to working at home and not being able to call over a cube to someone else.
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The hospital my wife works at had their death last night. I don't have any details on preexisting conditions in the patient.
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We had out first death in Spokane the other day. Not much info other than he was in his 80's. I expect a few more, they found Coid 19 in one of our local Nursing Homes. They aren't saying if he had underlying conditions or not but at >80 years old I think that would be a given.
bob
And now our 2nd, a woman in her 50's, no other info.
bob
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Week 2 of survey
Over 75% have no personal knowledge of anyone infected.
Most of those who've been infected in our survey are health care providers.
Nobody in our group has lost a friend or acquaintence to the China Virus.
Stay Safe
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Wait, I do. And it's actually a board member. It's not a bad case though. He's at home.
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First confirmed case in my warehouse Thursday, said person had been out for ten days after noting symptoms. Security apparently viewed footage and folks they were in close contact with were notified. Don't know they personally, but it's the closest I've been aware of.
Work has been nuts, as I'm in distribution for one of the big pharmacy changes. On the bright side, they've been really good on this. They've put a lot of positive attendance policy changes in place and it was announced last week we're getting a bonus delivered near the end of April, and (amusingly if nothing else) they gave everyone a pack of TP and case of bottled water.
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Nothing directly personal but the first case in my county was announced today. Three larger towns and a handful of smaller towns across the county but no info as to even general location.
My son works for a VERY LARGE, nationwide retail and grocery chain in one of their distribution centers. They are getting reports that other at least 2 other DCs have reported cases and despite claims from HQ that a DC would shut down 2 weeks for disinfection/cleaning in the event of an employee testing positive the DCs with positive cases are essentially business as usual.
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I found this to be an interesting perspective ... [popcorn]
The more sensible approach would be to isolate the elderly and the susceptible in order to protect them from the ravages of the virus. People who are young, healthy, able and willing should be allowed to return to work to restart the economy and hopefully keep it afloat through the coming depression.
Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/rising_to_the_challenge_can_this_be_a_great_generation.html#ixzz6I7P7SKOd
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I found this to be an interesting perspective ... [popcorn]
The more sensible approach would be to isolate the elderly and the susceptible in order to protect them from the ravages of the virus. People who are young, healthy, able and willing should be allowed to return to work to restart the economy and hopefully keep it afloat through the coming depression.
Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/rising_to_the_challenge_can_this_be_a_great_generation.html#ixzz6I7P7SKOd
Sensible and rational, meaning we will never adjust our response to match what is being suggested in the article.
Too many people in government at all levels hoping for tikiwiki.
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I've been working from home for 9 days now. Only because my flights are getting cancelled, yet i still get paid. =D
We've cut at least half of our flights and probably more than that. Our average load factor today was 25%.
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Someone came in today looking like death and with a fever. Was promptly told to GTFO once someone noticed, but by that point of course had covered part of the building, interacted around people, touched equipment, etc. Despite being given essentially free sick days as the company isn't counting call ins against you, and confirmed case or close contact to confirmed case such as someone in your household is an automatic two week paid vacation, which doesn't suck up any of your usual time off allotment. I give the company props, they've actually been responsive and made it as easy possible short of shutting down to keep your ass home if your sick.
So now we all get to be stopped on the way in to have our temperature checked.
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Someone came in today looking like death and with a fever. Was promptly told to GTFO once someone noticed, but by that point of course had covered part of the building, interacted around people, touched equipment, etc. Despite being given essentially free sick days as the company isn't counting call ins against you, and confirmed case or close contact to confirmed case such as someone in your household is an automatic two week paid vacation, which doesn't suck up any of your usual time off allotment. I give the company props, they've actually been responsive and made it as easy possible short of shutting down to keep your ass home if your sick.
So now we all get to be stopped on the way in to have our temperature checked.
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Dude, I work for the federal .gov with 4 hours of sick every PP, and yet people still come in sick (even before the kung-flu), and burn their sick days down to 0 balances because they don't feel like coming in.
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Dude, I work for the federal .gov with 4 hours of sick every PP, and yet people still come in sick (even before the kung-flu), and burn their sick days down to 0 balances because they don't feel like coming in.
Man, I used to hate that. Thanks for making me sick so you can get couple extra "vacation days".
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Due to our first quarter getting shot to hell we all get a 5% pay cut for the foreseeable future. Also no 401k match for the same.
Of course in the same email they exhorted us to “do more and go further” to “serve our customers and help the company”
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Man, I used to hate that. Thanks for making me sick so you can get couple extra "vacation days".
I took a full day for my son's appointment the other day, which took me down to 6 weeks.
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For us it's all PTO, they just put a cap on how many times per year you can call in for an unplanned absence. It's great for the folks who bother to manage their time.
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Two three four cases in my county now.
Eight now. But no word on severity.
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Me, Wife, and probably my cat.
It has swept through the local legal community due to a super spreader. One damn guy that also went to weddings after being diagnosed.
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Friend of my wife's in Florida. Just dropped her husband off with sudden onset of a high fever and breathing problems. Went from fine to ER visit in 24 hours.
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Me, Wife, and probably my cat.
It has swept through the local legal community due to a super spreader. One damn guy that also went to weddings after being diagnosed.
Jesus Ned. Stay safe. Hydrate and rest man.
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I’m sorry to hear that Ned hope you all come through it without issue
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Thanks all
I'm well stocked up. Wife was crying as she feared with her retail job she got me sick and I'm dead already having damaged lungs. I swear that one lawyer had to have coughed on every court house doorknob in the local 8 counties; before it was even recognized as being in the country. One local judge has already died and maybe a half dozen other judges confirmed to be suffering as well. They've actually shut down the local county court and the emergency matters are being handled two counties over.
I've got a day bed setup; watching Stargate SG-1. I'm up to season 5.
Health is rough, but not planning on going in unless its ventilator bad.
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That sucks Ned. Hope you get through this OK. Let us know if there's any funny colored poop:
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200319/about-half-of-covid-cases-show-digestive-signs
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That sucks Ned. Hope you get through this OK. Let us know if there's any funny colored poop:
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200319/about-half-of-covid-cases-show-digestive-signs
Hush. You know he doesn't like discussing his BMs.
Good luck, Ned.
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Stay strong Ned, and keep us updated.
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My prayers are with you Ned.
https://babylonbee.com/news/man-in-coma-for-month-assumes-hes-been-left-behind
Man In Coma For Past Month Arrives At Church, Assumes He's Been Left Behind
"Oh man," he said as he walked into the empty church building on Sunday, assuming he had missed the Rapture. "I knew I should have paid more attention to that Kirk Cameron movie.
:lol:
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Me, Wife, and probably my cat.
It has swept through the local legal community due to a super spreader. One damn guy that also went to weddings after being diagnosed.
As one of the resident tile-crawlers, you may be able to answer this: are there legal ramifications for this?
A judge DIED. That's gotta be enough for this cockroach to swing.
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I hope you recover quickly, Ned.
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Would someone please change Ned's screen name to Lucky, please?
Hope you both recover quickly, Ned.
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Take care of yourself and your wife Ned!
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30 day poll.
You can change your count as situation changes.
Only count those you have met personally unless otherwise indicated.
We're a pretty small sample spread out throughout the country but it may be interesting.
We can discuss local cases to us but counts are only for personally known friends, family or acquantences.
Wife's sister and her husband, living in the Chicago burbs somewhere, both test positive.
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Wife's sister and her husband, living in the Chicago burbs somewhere, both test positive.
Sorry to hear that, I'm afraid we are potentially a week away from being a hotspot here in da Chicago burbs. Odds are I'll be changing my vote soon.
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Take care Ned!
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Good friend of ours just lost a cousin in NYC to it and has several confirmed family members there
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Eight now. But no word on severity.
Two cases were travelers, and two were "community contact" but no word on the other cases AND still no word on severity.
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Two cases were travelers, and two were "community contact" but no word on the other cases AND still no word on severity.
We've got 7 in my county.
One of my worries is that if DC or the inner suburbs become overwhelmed, they start bringing victims out to our hospitals. We're only about 45 minutes out of DC.
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Went to my physical therapy session this morning. Got screened for fever at the door to the facility. When I checked in I was handed a mask.
They told me to keep the mask and reuse it on Thursday. :facepalm:
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Went to my physical therapy session this morning. Got screened for fever at the door to the facility. When I checked in I was handed a mask.
They told me to keep the mask and reuse it on Thursday. :facepalm:
https://youtu.be/2w9M6K9vSUM?t=1433
https://youtu.be/2UdtKssU7po?t=834
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Got a cousin in Tampa who is an airline pilot. His wife has it bad. She's in an ICU unit on a vent. She's a good person. Hope she comes through this okay.
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Got a cousin in Tampa who is an airline pilot. His wife has it bad. She's in an ICU unit on a vent. She's a good person. Hope she comes through this okay.
Damn.
I made friends with a bunch of guys through Fly320's who are all pilots in his circle. They're mostly hubbed out of BOS. There is a huge cluster in NH around the community that a lot of them live in.
So glad the airlines are flying around empty planes so the flight crews can get sick and bring this *expletive deleted*it home to their families. :facepalm:
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So.....
Because of the week in/week out scheduled we've adopted at the customer site, last week was my work from home week and I worked the first couple of days from the HQ of the company that I'm subcontracted to...
Just learned today that an HQ employee has tested positive for Kung Flu.
He was in the HQ the week before I was and so we didn't cross paths, so realistically it shouldn't affect me at all.
Hopefully.
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Damn.
I made friends with a bunch of guys through Fly320's who are all pilots in his circle. They're mostly hubbed out of BOS. There is a huge cluster in NH around the community that a lot of them live in.
So glad the airlines are flying around empty planes so the flight crews can get sick and bring this *expletive deleted*it home to their families. :facepalm:
Why are they flying empty planes?
I had heard union rules had some part in that, but it didn't make sense.
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Why are they flying empty planes?
I had heard union rules had some part in that, but it didn't make sense.
I think it's a game of chicken for bailout money. They kept flying empty planes so they could point to losing revenue when it came time to get a bailout. Certainly, they were hoping for federal limitations or grounding like 9/11 so they could blame the government directly.
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This is my counties site for China Virus information.
They have a map breaking infections down by each town.
We're a "collar" county. Immediately to the east/right is Cook County dominated and ruled by Mordor on Michigan ie Chicago.
https://www.dupagehealth.org/590/Coronavirus-Disease-2019-COVID-19-Inform
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And, I was wrong.
I've just been ejected from my office for two weeks because of a possible exposure to Corona almost... two weeks ago.
So, if I don't show any symptoms by the beginning of next week, I can go back because that was 2 weeks... right?
Nope. Two weeks from today.
Jesus monkey *expletive deleted*ing a football Christ...
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And, I was wrong.
I've just been ejected from my office for two weeks because of a possible exposure to Corona almost... two weeks ago.
So, if I don't show any symptoms by the beginning of next week, I can go back because that was 2 weeks... right?
Nope. Two weeks from today.
Jesus monkey *expletive deleted*ing a football Christ...
I got booted from my state capital complex office 17 days ago (I only go there maybe 3x a month) and not allowed to go on road either, work is getting really boring.
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Just got some really good news from my company. My pay is going to be fully covered during this time. Details will have to be worked out as the situation catches up with the new laws, etc., but at least I'm not going to have to factor in 1 or 2 short paychecks.
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Just got some really good news from my company. My pay is going to be fully covered during this time. Details will have to be worked out as the situation catches up with the new laws, etc., but at least I'm not going to have to factor in 1 or 2 short paychecks.
Great news!
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Why are they flying empty planes?
I had heard union rules had some part in that, but it didn't make sense.
Nothing to do with unions, afaik. We still have some customers, so we still fly some flights. My company has reduced the flying by 75%, but unless there is a government mandated shutdown, we will keep flying some flights.
As part of this bailout, we are obligated to operate essential routes, although I don't know if that is defined any where.
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Nothing to do with unions, afaik. We still have some customers, so we still fly some flights. My company has reduced the flying by 75%, but unless there is a government mandated shutdown, we will keep flying some flights.
As part of this bailout, we are obligated to operate essential routes, although I don't know if that is defined any where.
Also, cancelling flights means refunds of already purchased tickets. If they fly and passengers don't show up, they keep the fare.
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There is a huge cluster in NH around the community that a lot of them live in.
Location, location, location.
I think it has less to do with us airline people and more to do with the location. We are about 1 hour to Boston and there is a high percentage of commuters around here.
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Brother of a friend tested positive, he's in California.
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I have an Internet friend from my profession and a few groups we frequent that has been chatting with me offline who has been tested positive for the Wu Flu. Apparently he's more of a "carrier" than a "victim" at this point. he's late 50's, I believe, but is weathering it well, thank God.
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Nother positive at work. Just received notice not to show up tomorrow as ops are suspended for 24hrs to do disinfecting
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Here is a scenario for the hive mind's advice. My grandson and his sig other and their two kids live with us at the moment. She is a day care teacher. Wretched Gretchen our Michigan governor declared day care's as essential services. SO was told that she had a choice because 2/3 of the kids are not coming to day care. Parents are laid off keeping kids home.
The offer is this: Work 2 days for 2 days pay. OR Take a voluntary lay off, but you can't claim unemployment as you choose not to work. SO took unpaid leave because she doesn't want to endanger our greatgranddaughters, our grand son and us for 2 days pay...$80.00 minus taxws. I suspect the millionaire owner is scamming so her unemployment insurance premiums would not go up if she actually laid off 2/3 of the employees. Her business also has less than 500 employees so she might be scamming to get some government money because she is "still open" and has employees. Anybody got any thoughts on this?
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Then those of us that work are reminded daily ‘if you are sick, stay home!.’ Then there are posters on every.single.wall. Stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Then the company sends out an email every single day stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Everyone was notified 3 weeks ago that lower tier workers (yeah I got screwed on this one) got an added week of vacation to use if they get sick, so that there is no excuse to come in to work if sick.
And yet, some >insert long string of profanities< comes into work on an off shift and sits at her desk for hours, sick with a fever too sick to work, getting at least one other person sick. We are busier than ever, I’m working 70+hrs a week along with a lot of others, and we just lost an entire shift for a week- they were all ordered to stay home and be re-evaluated next week. What’s more, this person lives in the ghetto hot zone if our state abd was using public transit.
I am *expletive deleted*ing livid.
ETA: the other person that got sick is in his 60s, not in the best physical condition, is probably out best worker, and has his desk right next to mine.
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Then those of us that work are reminded daily ‘if you are sick, stay home!.’ Then there are posters on every.single.wall. Stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Then the company sends out an email every single day stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Everyone was notified 3 weeks ago that lower tier workers (yeah I got screwed on this one) got an added week of vacation to use if they get sick, so that there is no excuse to come in to work if sick.
And yet, some >insert long string of profanities< comes into work on an off shift and sits at her desk for hours, sick with a fever too sick to work, getting at least one other person sick. We are busier than ever, I’m working 70+hrs a week along with a lot of others, and we just lost an entire shift for a week- they were all ordered to stay home and be re-evaluated next week. What’s more, this person lives in the ghetto hot zone if our state abd was using public transit.
I am *expletive deleted*ing livid.
ETA: the other person that got sick is in his 60s, not in the best physical condition, is probably out best worker, and has his desk right next to mine.
Ayep, gotta love plague rats. Had one the other day come in and wasn't noticed for a few hours before being sent packing. Despite it being shouted from the roof tops that if you feel so much as a sniffle stay the hell home. Currently a confirmed fever gets you up to three days, paid, without having to use PTO. Confirmed 'rona for you or household is a full two weeks. I work distribution for one of the large pharmacy chains, our distribution center services over 1000 stores- the entirety of the southeast minus Florida, a bit west past the Mississippi, and most of the mid-Atlantic and into southern PA. We're already working most of the building at round about 60 hours a week. If it rolls through building it'd not be a good thing. So they've gone very err on the side of keeping the plague rats home in the temporary policy changes.
Fun side note I work in the receiving office scheduling inbound freight, and occasionally the desk dealing with truck drivers. The supply chain on most product types isn't bad but is starting to feel the pain. And I'd say a good 50% of the truck drivers are now coming in gloved up and masked.
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And I'm back at the office.
After further consultation, the leadership decided that the possible exposure vector did not constitute enough of a concern to debar us from work for 2 weeks.
The only thing that is consistent right now is change, and how fast change is happening. It's like repeated whiplash.
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My cousin (55) and her adult daughter are home quarantined with pneumonia (outside of Detroit).
No covid 19 test administered.
If my cousin gets worse they will admit her and test her.
Seems like an odd protocol during a pandemic.
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My cousin (55) and her adult daughter are home quarantined with pneumonia (outside of Detroit).
No covid 19 test administered.
If my cousin gets worse they will admit her and test her.
Seems like an odd protocol during a pandemic.
I would have thought pneumonia would get you admitted. That is serious.
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I would have thought pneumonia would get you admitted. That is serious.
Maybe. Depends on blood oxygen levels, and whether it responds to antibiotics. If you are getting enough oxygen and the z-pac works, there is no reason to be in the hospital.
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Maybe. Depends on blood oxygen levels, and whether it responds to antibiotics. If you are getting enough oxygen and the z-pac works, there is no reason to be in the hospital.
Beat me to it.
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As part of this bailout, we are obligated to operate essential routes, although I don't know if that is defined any where.
Probably between Washington, D.C. and the home districts of various more senior congresscritters. (The ones who don't have a government plane at their disposal.)
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Maybe. Depends on blood oxygen levels, and whether it responds to antibiotics. If you are getting enough oxygen and the z-pac works, there is no reason to be in the hospital.
Plus, if your sick and you don't have it, the hospital is the LAST place you want to be. Even with precautions in place, you know it's still going to get transferred.
If you aren't going to die in the next ten minutes, STAY HOME.
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Plus, if your sick and you don't have it, the hospital is the LAST place you want to be. Even with precautions in place, you know it's still going to get transferred.
If you aren't going to die in the next ten minutes, STAY HOME.
I'm with you on the stay home.
What I find peculiar is not testing her or her daughter that lives with her when they both have pneumonia.
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Friend of mine sent me a message, she is selling her whisky/wine/cocktail bar because our bars are shut down until Apr 30 and she can't afford to reopen after setting idle for 45 days. Plus we don't know if this date will be extended, already has been once.
I feel a lot of small businesses are going to be permanently closed due to the virus.
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Friend of mine sent me a message, she is selling her whisky/wine/cocktail bar because our bars are shut down until Apr 30 and she can't afford to reopen after setting idle for 45 days. Plus we don't know if this date will be extended, already has been once.
I feel a lot of small businesses are going to be permanently closed due to the virus.
The smoothie place beside my office went out of business even before the full shutdown.
We're doing what we can to support local business, but this is a killer for a lot of them.
My wife's business is basically zero, now. Thankfully, as she has a home studio, it really doesn't cost her anything to shut down. She just doesn't make money while shut down, unlike other businesses who have costs that must be covered whether they are running or not.
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This will be the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy in human history.
With all the defaults coming the banks will own everything on top of billions in bailouts.
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This will be the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy in human history.
With all the defaults coming the banks will own everything on top of billions in bailouts.
In the event of a default, the bank already owned it really....
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In the event of a default, the bank already owned it really....
All the equity built up over years, "poof" gone.
Maybe folks should look at the banksters and usery a little differently.
Ha ha ha, fat chance that will ever happen.
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Are DIY Wahl clipper haircuts a symptom of the ChiCom Virus?
(https://i.imgur.com/GdqDBUM.jpg)
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This will be the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy in human history.
With all the defaults coming the banks will own everything on top of billions in bailouts.
Banks don't fare well with foreclosures. Not in the kind of market we're likely facing.
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Are DIY Wahl clipper haircuts a symptom of the ChiCom Virus?
Uh oh ... I started showing those symptoms last week.
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Are DIY Wahl clipper haircuts a symptom of the ChiCom Virus?
If it happens, it wasn't the Kung Flu that instigated the issue.
Seriously, why do tumors have to *expletive deleted*ck up your hair!?!?! :mad:
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If it happens, it wasn't the Kung Flu that instigated the issue.
All the barber shops I looked up were closed. =(
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Are DIY Wahl clipper haircuts a symptom of the ChiCom Virus?
(https://i.imgur.com/GdqDBUM.jpg)
Is it just me or does he look a lot more like his avatar now?
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Uh oh ... I started showing those symptoms last week.
Near waist length hair and 8"+ beard is easy peasy in Covid-19 lockdown.
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Is it just me or does he look a lot more like his avatar now?
[hoots angrily, pounds chest]
When I was a kid, every time my Dad saw a picture of a monkey or ape - every cotton-pickin time - he would ask me how they got my picture.
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Pfft. Virus doesn't affect me. I've been giving myself buzzcuts for the last 15 years. Well, they used to be high and tights, until the "high" started disappearing. :laugh:
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There's some pretty decent small business loans/grants available. I don't know how many are going for them, or how much red tape there is. I know BSL said her boss was having some fed.gov bureaucracy issues.
https://www.pillsburylaw.com/en/news-and-insights/small-business-loan-forgiveness-under-the-cares-act.html
This seems like a decent deal for this situation:
an eligible business may borrow a Paycheck Protection Loan in an amount of up to $10 million. The actual amount is 2.5 x average total monthly “payroll costs” (defined below) during the past year, with flexibility for seasonal employers and with an ability to refinance a recent Economic Injury Disaster Loan
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Borrowers may receive forgiveness of Paycheck Protection Loan amounts spent on payroll expenses, rent, mortgage interest and utilities during the eight weeks after the loan is made.
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My sister and her husband own a chocolate factory and four retail outlets with a total of about 50 employees. They had to lay everyone off, close the stores and close the factory since they were not an essential business and sales dropped to nothing. They are looking at some of the loan/grant programs, but are not sure if their business will survive.
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My sister and her husband own a chocolate factory and four retail outlets with a total of about 50 employees. They had to lay everyone off, close the stores and close the factory since they were not an essential business and sales dropped to nothing. They are looking at some of the loan/grant programs, but are not sure if their business will survive.
Just skimming the site that would seem to be exactly the situation that paycheck loan forgiveness thing is for. If they get a loan, hire everyone back and pay them, and let the factory just sit idle for two months, the government will forgive, rent, pay and utilities, and the employees will have gotten paid.
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My sister and her husband own a chocolate factory and four retail outlets with a total of about 50 employees. They had to lay everyone off, close the stores and close the factory since they were not an essential business and sales dropped to nothing. They are looking at some of the loan/grant programs, but are not sure if their business will survive.
When this is all done and we tally up our economic losses, it will sure look a lot more like the results of an attack on our country than the results of a rando eating a bat on the other side of the world.
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When this is all done and we tally up our economic losses, it will sure look a lot more like the results of an attack on our country than the results of a rando eating a bat on the other side of the world.
We should declare WAR ON CHINA!!! >:D (Presented here only for use as a rant, not intended seriously .... sorta [tinfoil] ).
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Wife told me I can't go to the store anymore. So she will do it and hope she doesn't bring anything home to my no immune system. I pulled out my P100 mask today but I can't find any new cartridges once I run out. On the plus side I'm about to go do a "Sadie you are my daughter." Damnit Wife just texted she is napping while I was typing will have to get her later. Sadie stayed up all night with this new freedom of no real school and being able to do the online stuff in about an hour.
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Friend, who I've not been in physical contact with at least, tested positive today.
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I went to the supermarket today and saw more people wearing masks. Some surgical masks and some improvised.
One guy was using a folded up bandana held over his mouth and nose and trying to shop one handed.
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Week 3 of survey
73% have no personal knowledge of anyone infected.
Health Care Providers still are the majority of the cases listed.
Nobody in our group has lost a friend or acquaintance they know personally to the China Virus.
Stay Safe
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Anybody gotten a check in from Ned on how they're doing?
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Eight now. But no word on severity.
11 now. So it's not spreading fast here.
No deaths, thankfully.
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Feeling well enough for some light yard work... man, being sick these few weeks has wrecked me. I think I'm just about wholly through it tho. I took the longest to recover in the house.
A local 20 some year old died today from it; county average is currently a half dozen a day. Local hospitals have had a few insider videos leak of their hellscapes.
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Played golf today, couldn't get a bloody mary due to the clubhouse being closed.
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Feeling well enough for some light yard work... man, being sick these few weeks has wrecked me. I think I'm just about wholly through it tho. I took the longest to recover in the house.
A local 20 some year old died today from it; county average is currently a half dozen a day. Local hospitals have had a few insider videos leak of their hellscapes.
Glad you’re coming over the bump man.
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Friend works at UPS and he said one of their supervisors died from C19. Said he was in perfect health, age 55.
Does this count?
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But but, it's an old people virus!
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But but, it's an old people virus!
Well ... it kind of is. The older you are, the more likely you are to die from it. That doesn't make the young invulnerable to it, but age and gender are huge factors in its lethality. This is No Virus for Old Men.
Looking at some state data, the 80+ cohort makes up less than 10% of the cases but almost 40% of the deaths. The curve is very clear. By comparison, the 50-59 cohort makes up about 20% of the cases but less than 10% of the deaths.
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Friend works at UPS and he said one of their supervisors died from C19. Said he was in perfect health, age 55.
Does this count?
Technically, if it is a trusted friend you know personally who has first hand knowledge, yes, there is an option for that scenerio.
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Well ... it kind of is. The older you are, the more likely you are to die from it. That doesn't make the young invulnerable to it, but age and gender are huge factors in its lethality. This is No Virus for Old Men.
Looking at some state data, the 80+ cohort makes up less than 10% of the cases but almost 40% of the deaths. The curve is very clear. By comparison, the 50-59 cohort makes up about 20% of the cases but less than 10% of the deaths.
From the beginning of this whole affair trying to suss out the personal risk has been nearly impossible.
That left me looking at it as a potentially very dangerous unknown.
That's why I've approached it in the spirit of the precautionary principle.
Our media not only sucks but they truly are an enemy of the people.
Having said that, you go to war with the media you got.
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Well ... it kind of is. The older you are, the more likely you are to die from it. That doesn't make the young invulnerable to it, but age and gender are huge factors in its lethality. This is No Virus for Old Men.
Looking at some state data, the 80+ cohort makes up less than 10% of the cases but almost 40% of the deaths. The curve is very clear. By comparison, the 50-59 cohort makes up about 20% of the cases but less than 10% of the deaths.
Reports from US hospitals sound like younger people (40’s and up) aren’t doing hot with it it either. Obesity has emerged as another “comorbidity” factor.
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And either due to my doing yard work today or telling folks I'm through it; fever flared up and I'm coughing again.
Come on turn it off and on again fix all of going to sleep.
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Get better man.
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Get well quickly, Ned.
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And either due to my doing yard work today or telling folks I'm through it; fever flared up and I'm coughing again.
Come on turn it off and on again fix all of going to sleep.
Go slow man. A lot of people reported feeling better right before onset of heavy symptoms again. You're going to really want a couple days of rest after you recover I bet.
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Took John Prine yesterday.
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One pilot and one flight attendant from my company have died, but I didn't know either of them.
So far, I don't know anyone infected with C19.
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Took John Prine yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEy6EuZp9IY
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Coworker got it. He is asymptomatic, was tested because his GF popped positive for it. After popping positive for it the local hospital system cleared him to come back to work (WTF right) but company made him stay home for 14 days.
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I just found out our annual raises were postponed. Small issue considering I am healthy and getting paid and a lot of people are not. At present, our total sales are a little low. I am not sure if that is due to the oil/gas market being hit by lower prices or turn down on the general economy.
Edit: this may not be happening or only happening to corporate office people who are full time at home now. I think some field managers objected.
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Took John Prine yesterday.
I was going to post that, but wasn't sure it belonged here cuz I didn't know him personally. I hope they gave his knees to the needy, he woulda wanted that :'(
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My cousin's wife was on a vent for six days. She was 57, in pretty good health. Damn virus took her today. She was a sweet lady, with a preference for fixed stock AR-15s, revolvers, and big dogs. She loved Christmas enough to do it twice a year. She was a good military wife when my cousin flew for the Navy. Her laugh was infectious, and that's what I'll hold on to.
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Sorry to hear that man. Not sure what lie to say.
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My cousin and her husband in NYC got it.
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Not a Covid infection, but due to Covid quarantine. Friend's husband had surgery today to do a biopsy of a lump on his lung, they kept him under anesthesia while they did the biopsy. Ended up removing the whole lump, he's in ICU right now and will get to wake up with a doctor telling him he has lung cancer. Gets to spend at least 7 days in the hospital. Can't have any visitors, so he gets to be given the news without any family present. Dr is communicating by phone to my friend and will she be told options of treatment when they review everything. :(
Please stay home so this passes so our loved ones don't need to experience these things alone.
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A coworker got home Friday to find out his wife had a fever. Just found out today that she tested negative for COVID-19. Good news for them.
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Ned please check in man.
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Ned please check in man.
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I've got lingering weakness that has me a tad paranoid; mild fever and intermittent light cough. But otherwise whole house is doing well. A short drive from my house is the literal largest concentration of covid in the world and my facebook has a bunch of fools calling it all a hoax. Like there aren't current mass graves. One of these geniuses I know actually got it himself and was hospitalized for two weeks; mid late 20s. And is currently back on Facebook reposting nonsense.
I'm on Season 7 of Stargate SG1 and thinking I may have to take a break and go binge watch Silicon Valley while HBO has it up for free.
Teleconference board game scheduled for Friday.
Just; sheltering in place. Slowly going mad as its warm enough for the weeds to grow but too cold to work outside. And I'm too weak for any goodly effort anyways. May be for the best as last time we had some warm weather and I was feeling better, I worked myself back to bed ridden in a single day.
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Damn man! So glad you’re on the mend though!
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I made the mistake of checking the local numbers. Death rate for the hospitalized is more than a quarter.
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I made the mistake of checking the local numbers. Death rate for the hospitalized is more than a quarter.
In a hotspot the hospital is not a good place to be unless it is absolutely necessary.
Ive read the reason that health care workers have been hit so hard is not just more opportunities to come in contact initially, but the overall viral load their system has to fight off is higher.
Hence the reason nursing homes are getting hammered.
Stay safe and no gardening.
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My wife's sister and her family are currently presumed positive and waiting on test results.
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I have a friend in the ICU who is younger than me (read: under 40, but not by much) who has been in a medically induced coma, with pneumonia, whose lungs were filling up with fluid.
He has apparently pulled through and is off the ventilator/respirator (it was looking bad for quite a while) and is responding to commands.
Now, the odd thing is: his Chinese Coronavirus test came back negative.
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I still don't know anyone with COVID19.
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I still don't know anyone with COVID19.
same here.
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I still don't know anyone with COVID19.
Just a few but I have friends in "essential" workforce.
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I have a personal impact. A positive one. It has put the kibosh on Earth Day. =D
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Friend of my moms from the local Red Cross died from it yesterday.
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I have a personal impact. A positive one. It has put the kibosh on Earth Day. =D
Floppies or tires?
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Father in law just got confirmed. 65, reasonable health. Here's hoping the odds are in his favor. He's on the (very) short list of people I actually like. Awful MIL gets to quarantine with him, so it's not all bad >:D.
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We are emptying out the local State Veterans Home of all positive C-19 cases and moving them into a special ward at the VA hospital. The Vets Home is about the only hotspot in town right now. As of tonight they have 30 some + cases. I think I will go in early next week and clean out my workspace and desk. I don't think I will go back to office work before I retire (May 29), I will just keep teleworking.
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My county is down to six active cases with no deaths of those who were infected.
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Chuck, early 80's, my buddies father, passed away two days ago and it will be recorded as a covid 19 fatality.
Two years ago Chuck took a fall and went into facility. They let him come home at some point instructing my buddy that hospice would need to be involved soon. Tough ol geezer, despite still smoking and having COPD hung in there for two years.
Well, he took another tumble, back in a facility and ended up with pneumonia. He also tested positive for the China Virus.
Chuck was an ornery ol cuss but he liked me and I liked him.
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RIP Chuck.
May he go to the best place.
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I still don't know anyone who has it, but the pandemic has affected me. I was scheduled to start a new job at the local VA hospital on April 13. About a week before then, they basically shut the place down except for critical cases. I have mad routine appointments for April and May cancelled and rescheduled for July and August. And my work start date has been postponed until June 8.
I am very much ambivalent about that start date change. On one hand, I need the income and I don't like having to wait another two months for the job to start. On the other hand, I tick so many of the high risk boxes that I'm paranoid about even bringing mail into the house from the mailbox. So I have to recognize that being anywhere near a hospital right now would probably not be a good situation for me.
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I was surprised they called me into Neuro for my Botox Migraine injections last Friday.
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As my father was dying in ICU this past weekend, the hospital said only two visitors would be allowed due to Covid restrictions. But since they admitted my mother, sister and I into the main hospital entrance after the temperature and mask station, we decided to just try and walk into the ICU after my sister had them buzz us in.
Either I looked scary, or nobody had the guts to turn away a third family member at a dying/last visit. We did hear one of the staff whisper "But there's THREE of them!" but nobody did anything. The Charge nurse on duty said she was five months from retirement, wasn't afraid of any repercussions, and kind of hinted we should try that. My sister works in that hospital as a Labor and Delivery OBGYN nurse, and she'd exhausted all the favors and exceptions she could try and get through official and unofficial channels.
The Friday evening before, in the ER, they decided to let my mother, sister, myself, and my wife in, which was also a (pleasant) shock. But I think they knew the severity of his head injury, and while not directly telling us his prognosis was already grim, they wanted us to be with him. And they needed us as it would turn out. We helped hold him down and kept talking to him with the 3 seconds of memory he had, as he was "head injury combative" and kept trying to get out of the hospital bed, remove all his medical sensors, and it took all of us to hold him until they pushed Ativan on him twice.
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Sorry to hear that, AJ. My condolences, for what they're worth.
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Condolences for your loss, AJ. That had to be rough go, for you and for the entire family.
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Thoughts with you and yours, AJ.
Can't even imagine the suck.
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Thanks everyone.
Going this afternoon to cremate him. It was definitely sudden and unexpected. But even at 73, he was able to be an organ donor and saved three people with his kidneys and liver. We got word they were able to use all of them and they've been successfully transplanted.
He was a good Dad. I was blessed to have him while I did. What sucked about it was that he was a pretty youngish 73. More like a 50 year old in demeanor and his look, if that makes sense, so he had a lot of living left to do. And he had no health issues like blood pressure or cardiovascular disease to make us think that something would happen to him.
Covid just added a whole 'nother layer to dealing with all of this. Fortunately we were able to kind of strong-arm our way through the limitations placed on us. It didn't come to it, but my father was only going to die once. So they'd have needed security to remove me.
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I had an appointment with Endocrinology on Thursday. It was a virtual visit, video and audio. That was my first virtual visit for a regular appointment with one of my normal providers. Went well.
I wound up giving a pretty good history of what all had happened with me since my last visit with her in early January. When I came out from that visit my car had been sideswiped in the parking lot by another "customer" trying to park in the next space. I told my provider that made me extra satisfied with doing a video visit. No parking lot derby. I also told her about my firm belief that I had Kung-Flu starting around the end of January. Had a lot of discussion about how it threw off my appetite (I've lost 25 pounds since that last visit) and how I've been re-titrating some of my meds on my own because of the effects of the virus. Long story short, she agreed that the symptoms and timeline all fit and has sent an order for me to get an antibody test. Because of work schedules, I probably won't get in for the test until later this week.
I'll let y'all know how things turn out.
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I got sick in November and didn't get better until February I lost over 40 pounds myself.
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I found out that the dad of a friend of spawn #1 has tested positive and the mom and 2 of 3 kids are showing symptoms.
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Nearly two months into the poll.
2/3rds of us have no personal knowledge (in face to face world) of anyone even infected with wuflu. Generally folks know a guy who knows a guy or you know a guy online. This poll is about actually knowing the person.
I haven't read through the thread again but there have been I think two or three deaths where cov-19 was if not the primary cause, was a complicating factor in someone passing.
With all the pressure to relax the lock downs I think it is safe to say our poll reflects what a large percentage of America is experiencing.
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I know exactly one person that I know in person that had it- a coworker. He caught it from his GF. He never showed a symptom and his GF had only mild ones
This shutdown is retarded
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We've had a couple more people in our circles test positive.
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I've been taking zinc and vitamin D as well as emergence C somewhat regularly.
There is anecdotal evidence that like all other corona viruses those vitamins and minerals help lesson symptoms if infected.
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I've been taking zinc and vitamin D as well as emergence C somewhat regularly.
There is anecdotal evidence that like all other corona viruses those vitamins and minerals help lesson symptoms if infected.
If anything, covid should make it clear that being and staying healthy is worth it, and supplementation can play a big role in that.
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Our Governor went to DC last week to meet with Trump and Pence, looks like she'll need to self quarantine under her executive order.
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Trying to plan a funeral with all the guidlines and restrictions is a nightmare.
Wisconsin is supposed to "open" on May 26th. My father's funeral is scheduled tentatively for the 4th of June. The church says they will be open at 1/4 capacity, blocking off every other pew and spacing people apart. Which is a max attendance of 200 people. Trouble is that my Dad knew so many people, we have large families, and it was a sudden/unexpected death, and he was kind of young which drives attendance. We could get 250 to show up without really trying.
So now we're trying to figure out if we need to make it invitation only, or open it up to everyone. And hope that the usual pattern of people coming for visitation but not the service would spread them out and not force us to turn people away.
What's also tough is that different family is different types of "Covid believers". My mother is a "Flubro" (this is just another/extra flu season and we don't shut down the country over that, etc.) My wife is a "Doomer" (full on panic, believes the MSM narrative and hand-wringing 100%) My sister is a nurse, and she's a "Doomer" too, but more out of a better-safe-than-sorry level of practicality and caution and doesn't want to feel responsible if someone attending gets sick. I'm an agnostic, where I'm half Flubro, but recognize that maybe it would have been a Doomer scenario without the shutdowns. (Can't prove a negative, and my opinion is worth bupkis in the larger context anyway...) But now as the oldest male/patriarch of the immediate family, people are kind of lobbying me to weigh in on what to do about the funeral.
My mother and sister are meeting with the parish priest on Thursday, and they love him to bits, so hopefully he'll just advise them something practical that's a decent compromise, and they'll accept that. I don't want to be in the middle.
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Trying to plan a funeral with all the guidlines and restrictions is a nightmare.
Wisconsin is supposed to "open" on May 26th. My father's funeral is scheduled tentatively for the 4th of June. The church says they will be open at 1/4 capacity, blocking off every other pew and spacing people apart. Which is a max attendance of 200 people. Trouble is that my Dad knew so many people, we have large families, and it was a sudden/unexpected death, and he was kind of young which drives attendance. We could get 250 to show up without really trying.
So now we're trying to figure out if we need to make it invitation only, or open it up to everyone. And hope that the usual pattern of people coming for visitation but not the service would spread them out and not force us to turn people away.
What's also tough is that different family is different types of "Covid believers". My mother is a "Flubro" (this is just another/extra flu season and we don't shut down the country over that, etc.) My wife is a "Doomer" (full on panic, believes the MSM narrative and hand-wringing 100%) My sister is a nurse, and she's a "Doomer" too, but more out of a better-safe-than-sorry level of practicality and caution and doesn't want to feel responsible if someone attending gets sick. I'm an agnostic, where I'm half Flubro, but recognize that maybe it would have been a Doomer scenario without the shutdowns. (Can't prove a negative, and my opinion is worth bupkis in the larger context anyway...) But now as the oldest male/patriarch of the immediate family, people are kind of lobbying me to weigh in on what to do about the funeral.
My mother and sister are meeting with the parish priest on Thursday, and they love him to bits, so hopefully he'll just advise them something practical that's a decent compromise, and they'll accept that. I don't want to be in the middle.
What about an outdoor ceremony? Just trying to be practical.
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What about an outdoor ceremony? Just trying to be practical.
Not a bad idea but it's probably a non-starter.
My mother and father are staunch Catholic, so it needs to be in the church. And he was cremated, so there's no burial/interment to do outside either.
And Wisconsin weather can't be counted on to cooperate either.
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Found this thread 6 pages back. Apparently the impact of the virus never panned out to be as bad as the experts led us to believe it was going to be. They weren't just wrong they were wrong by orders of magnitude, multiple times.
That's not meant to downplay those that experienced personal impact to their health or health of a loved one. I don't want anyone to suffer, hence the reason I was much more circumspect early on and went along with the precautions and initially believed the lies coming from the lying experts.
Here is a link to just how wrong the experts were and how bogus the reported numbers really are, posted on Peter Hitchens blog.
https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/05/a-library-of-useful-links-on-the-virus-panic-for-thinking-people.html
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I now have an uncle, and possibly aunt, with the disease. They are in the 60s or 70s, so I am concerned for them.
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Back on page 5 I mentioned that I got laid off. Just signed on to a new job today. Pay starts at 20% less than I was at, but top of the pay scale is much better, benefits are better, and 3 weeks vacation.
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I missed that your Dad passed, AJ. My sympathies and condolences.
Bedlamite, that's excellent news! When do you start?
Hope your relations weather this, Fisty.
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We had several coworkers out that tested positive or were determined by contact tracing to have been at potential risk of exposure.
Due to HIPPA nobody knows anything, who had it or who was quarantined. The staff determined who was impacted by their work absence. Apparently those impacted have been sworn to secrecy because everyone is back at work and it's still a big secret.
I guess being responsible for yourself and determining risks is no longer allowed. Just trust your authorities.
What a load of BS.
Hope your family members heal up quick fistful!
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A nearby location of my company has had people get exposed who were then forced to stay home. I don't think anyone has actually contracted it locally. There are a 100 or 200 cases in my home town so it is around.
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In the last 2 weeks, had friends and acquaintances test postive. Communication from them is most are showing signs and symptoms, very few asymptomatic. Also my county has gone from 41 cases before the 4th to close to 500 positive cases as of yesterday. All the corn is pollinating here due to favorable weather this spring and all being planted at the same time. So many people are walking around coughing and sneezing.
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My wife has a small business offering in-home chef service to the elderly. Last Friday she cooked for a woman that then informed us on Monday that she had tested positive for covid. We are self-quarantining for two weeks. I've been working from home all along so nothing much will change for me. She, on the other hand, will have a significant lack of income for the next two weeks. She really doesn't do well being idle and I expect an emotional toll as well.
Her client that tested positive did not exhibit any symptoms when my wife was with her, and she couldn't really say why they tested her in the first place.
It's early, but we both got tested yesterday at a county drive-up station. She is scheduled for another test on Friday.
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My wife spent over a week with almost no staff in the office. It was her and only two others. Seem several went to a coffee shop together after work one day and a smaller group went there for lunch the next. Then a worker there tested positive. Non of them got it.
Talked to an old friend on Saturday. He works for a company that builds packaging machines. He was doing a PM at the Waterloo plant two days before they shut down. He had already headed to Utah when he got sent home to quarantine. He said he was very sick for one day and then he was fine.
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Found out a couple weeks ago that 3 employees from where I work are in quarantine; one couple (husband & wife - he has it, not sure about her) and one other worker whose hubby tested positive.
No names were given, but it wasn't hard to figure out who they were when management passed the word that "someone" tested positive. Pisser was management lied to us, said none of us were exposed. Bullshit. The wife of the couple works in my department of 4 people, we've been in close proximity, talked, used the same (non-sterilized) equipment. I'd talked with her husband and passed some (non-sterilized) equipment back & forth the day before he didn't show for work.
No symptoms here, so far.
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Finally know someone who has the 'Rona. Pilot friend of mine tested positive and did his 10 day "quaran-time." The state health dept called him every day to check on hime and make sure he was being a good boy.
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Finally know someone who has the 'Rona. Pilot friend of mine tested positive and did his 10 day "quaran-time." The state health dept called him every day to check on hime and make sure he was being a good boy.
Does he also live in New Hampshire? Out of curiosity, are they testing to verify recovery, or just going by a ten-day or two-week home stay and subsequent abatement of symptoms as constituting a presumptive recovery?
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Yes, NH.
AFAIK, just the 10 day quaratine.
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Ten days? I thought it was two weeks. I guess I'm off the hook for a probable exposure on 16 July. (Today: 26 July).
Been taking my temp with an IR temp gauge on forehead, ear, and under my chin. Wlll keep on for a couple of days, though. Normal: 94.5 +/- 1°F, varying slightly between positions, time of day, etc.
Right now: 94.0, 95.0, 94.0.
Terry
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Ten days? I thought it was two weeks. I guess I'm off the hook for a probable exposure on 16 July. (Today: 26 July).
Been taking my temp with an IR temp gauge on forehead, ear, and under my chin. Wlll keep on for a couple of days, though. Normal: 94.5 +/- 1°F, varying slightly between positions, time of day, etc.
Right now: 94.0, 95.0, 94.0.
Terry
CDC now says 10 days is good enough.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/disposition-in-home-patients.html
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CDC now says 10 days is good enough.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/disposition-in-home-patients.html
Wait a week, the recommendation will change.
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I changed my vote in the poll, as now I know two people that have caught it. The kid of a coworker (her boyfriend will probably be positive soon) got it and got over it last week. Was pretty unpleasant for a couple days, by her report.
One of the workers at the barber shop I go to got it three weeks ago. He died last week. He was 27, no comorbidities.
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I changed my vote in the poll, as now I know two people that have caught it. The kid of a coworker (her boyfriend will probably be positive soon) got it and got over it last week. Was pretty unpleasant for a couple days, by her report.
One of the workers at the barber shop I go to got it three weeks ago. He died last week. He was 27, no comorbidities.
The more accurate statement would probably be "no known comorbidities".
Considering the fatality rate is well under 1% it is probably safe to assume he was more susceptible to complications than the norm.
There just doesn't seem to be a clear way forward where nobody dies from the infection.
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Or, you could take my word on the fact that the guy I've seen and talked to every two weeks since he was 18 didn't have any of the known comorbidities for COVID-19, and drew the short straw on percentages. And you could shut the *expletive deleted*ck up on random assumptions.
That's a route we could take as well.
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I changed my vote in the poll, as now I know two people that have caught it. The kid of a coworker (her boyfriend will probably be positive soon) got it and got over it last week. Was pretty unpleasant for a couple days, by her report.
One of the workers at the barber shop I go to got it three weeks ago. He died last week. He was 27, no comorbidities.
Sounds like *expletive deleted*it luck, and the numbers just bit him specifically.
Condolences man.
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Or, you could take my word on the fact that the guy I've seen and talked to every two weeks since he was 18 didn't have any of the known comorbidities for COVID-19, and drew the short straw on percentages. And you could shut the *expletive deleted*ck up on random assumptions.
That's a route we could take as well.
Sorry for the loss of your friend, in all truthfulness. I realize now my post wasn't a very compassionate response to a loss of a friend.
That doesn't change the reality of the situation though.
You accuse me of random assumptions?
Most folks in his age group, most age groups actually, fight it off by overwhelming percentages.
He succumbed because there is a underlying reason, ie probably an unknown comorbidity.
My point was simply we don't know why some very small percentage of people are more susceptible to more severe responses to this virus.
The nonstop covid propaganda has made me sensitive to the political fear mongering and manipulation.
Making it a point to be sensitive to the actual human toll it is taking on those who are actually susceptible, as well as their friends and family will be something I'll work on.
I'll take that route but still kindly will refuse your suggestion to shut the *expletive deleted*ck up.
Honestly, I do wish there was a clear way forward where nobody dies from the infection.
Quarantining the whole country and larp'ing clean room procedures in public spaces is not a scientific response, it's an emotional response.
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Personal impact.
Customer in the county courthouse just called. 30 miles away, next county over. We can't deliver the server and rack tomorrow as we were scheduled to do. They're not letting anyone in the building until sometime next week. Something Covid.
Being Deathplague2020! related, I call the head lady at the county health department (also a customer of mine that I'm on a first name basis with, dept. not housed in this courthouse). She was just in the courthouse, didn't know anything.
Meanwhile, the local leftist agitator on the BookFace posts this: "We are following a developing story about some dramatic spikes in COVID cases around NW Illinois. Check us out this evening for more details."
So, who knows. Status maps I'm seeing make me think it's baloney.
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A family friend got Covid. She seems to be recovering ok.
An elderly former coworker got it also. He is in the hospital and doing very badly.
Those are the only two I know of personally.
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Several coworkers have tested positive. So far none have had particularly bad experiences.
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Other than the earlier one case no one else in 600 person company has gotten it
Most of our people, especially the mechanics are not people persons so they don’t like to go out and mingle with the public. Most everybody would rather be at home or doing something alone.
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Most of our people, especially the mechanics are not people persons so they don’t like to go out and mingle with the public. Most everybody would rather be at home or doing something alone.
This is also why APS members will survive and become warlords of the post-virus apocalypse world. :laugh:
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My wife's client that had tested positive two weeks ago is now fully recovered. The woman is in her 80s.
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I've had to update my vote to someone through a source I know personally. My sister has a co-worker who has tested positive.
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Don't recall if I posted this here.
Co-worker, female mid 60's was out for a couple weeks with Covid. She's been back for awhile now.
Co-workers brother (out of state) had it and recovered.
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Ten days? I thought it was two weeks. I guess I'm off the hook for a probable exposure on 16 July. (Today: 26 July).
Been taking my temp with an IR temp gauge on forehead, ear, and under my chin. Wlll keep on for a couple of days, though. Normal: 94.5 +/- 1°F, varying slightly between positions, time of day, etc.
Right now: 94.0, 95.0, 94.0.
Terry
So wouldn't you know it, now I see ads for them for taking temps.
Right now 93.5, 95.0, 94.5 from a Harbor Freight Centech IR Thermometer, $17-$18 or something like that.
See, I'm not looking for accuracy in terms of the readings grouping around the proverbial "98.6," but for trends rising above these normal readings using this method. It's easy enough to just add 3.6 to my readings, thus, 97.1, 98.6, and 98.1 if you want to.
ETA Actual reading from an HTG digital under-the-tongue medical thermometer (Walgreen's) is 98.4°F.
Terry, 230RN
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I saw all 3 of the employees yesterday. The young lady with the new baby's back at work, the couple were shopping. Wasn't able to talk with any of them, but none looked any worse than before.
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Close friend, his brother, his mother (late 60's) and father (early 70's) all tested positive.
They are all employed in the assisted living industry, as a side note.
His father became very sick, after two days he was admitted to the hospital. He spent two more nights under observation and was discharged as his condition was greatly improved.
My friend thought he was having a bad spell with his allergies/asthma, his mother and brother were asymptomatic.
They are in the desert SW not here in Illinois.
This was particularly scary for them because three of the four have comorbities that could cause complications.
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I never heard any details about my uncle, but he seems to have recovered. Sounds like it was a pretty mild case. Maybe it helped that he got it at a revival meeting. :laugh:
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A family friend got Covid. She seems to be recovering ok.
An elderly former coworker got it also. He is in the hospital and doing very badly.
Those are the only two I know of personally.
My cooworker in the hospital has died.
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My cooworker in the hospital has died.
Sorry to hear that. Glad he (apparently) didn't pass it on to you.
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After all this time I have to change my vote. A friend in town tested positive last Saturday. A couple rough days now he is fine but still in quarantine.
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I added a couple more yesterday.
My Cousin's kid (who is more like my niece relationship wise) texted and said her grandparents (Cousin's ex-husband's parents) both tested positive last week, and while her grandmother seems to be OK, her Grandfather was sent home yesterday on hospice. He's expected to pass this week.
I've met them both at various family functions, but they were both old, with several comorbidities each, and engaged in relatively high risk activities with no PPE (Church and social events after church even after other members of the congregation tested positive, a vacation to Daytona, stuff like that.) They also live in a county with a pretty high per capita COVID rate. So while I feel bad for the family, I do kinda have to ask what they thought was going to happen?
In closer to home news, one of the guys that works with me has been on Annual Training with his reserve unit, and one of the other folks on AT with him tested positive after showing symptoms. Both I and HR are waiting on my coworkers test results.
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The family friend with covid I mentioned earlier recovered. She said it wasn't as bad as the flu for her, fortunately. She also was in a high risk group.
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My wife has COVID for a few days now. So far, it's basically a headache and feeling a little tired. If it weren't for losing sense of taste, we wouldn't even have thought to get tested. She never had even the slightest fever, so all the temperature checks are seeming pretty pointless.
I'm sure it's worse for some people, and I do feel bad for those people (my dad's [diabetic+on chemo+80yo] neighbor died from it). And there's probably different strains going around. But I'm definitely way deep in the "We did a shutdown...for this?" territory. If you have to get a test basically to know you even have it, that's pretty tame. I do have to wonder how she possibly got it...we haven't been going out, and we wear a mask 100% when we do. So I have to admit it must be pretty contagious. My current theory is that I caught it in TX a month ago, but had no/minimal symptoms, then gave it to her 2 weeks later, and she's just now feeling it a month after I got back from TX. But that would mean I already got it myself, and I was never sick enough to write home about either.
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My law buddy's cousin had their wife and her mom die; took them both in under a week. He is bunkering up with his wife and kid. He full on closed his law office; fired his secretary, and is only working via telecommuting.
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My law buddy's cousin had their wife and her mom die; took them both in under a week. He is bunkering up with his wife and kid. He full on closed his law office; fired his secretary, and is only working via telecommuting.
Just a little confused on the relationships there. The wife and mother-in-law of the cousin died, and your law buddy is the one doing the "bunkering"?
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Just a little confused on the relationships there. The wife and mother-in-law of the cousin died, and your law buddy is the one doing the "bunkering"?
It doesn't matter, just be afraid.
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My wife had a coworker with bronchitis, and my wife has had that a number of times. So she started coughing, and went to the urgent care and was treated accordingly. That was Friday. Monday, they let her know she was positive for Wuhan. So I'm at home, pending the outcome of my own test. ;/
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My wife had a coworker with bronchitis, and my wife has had that a number of times. So she started coughing, and went to the urgent care and was treated accordingly. That was Friday. Monday, they let her know she was positive for Wuhan. So I'm at home, pending the outcome of my own test. ;/
Sorry to hear that, hope your wife battles it off with no complications!
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The wife and mother-in-law of the cousin died, and your law buddy is the one doing the "bunkering"?
Yup
Just found out my wife's aunt got it (Shopright cashier). She just felt poorly for about a week. If not for antibody test she wouldn't have known she had it.
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Were they in a high risk category?
Thankfully my buddy and his family seem to have weathered the infection well despite checking off some of the high risk boxes.
Some are still speculating that there might be an unknown genetic component to being susceptible to a poor response to infection.
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Were they in a high risk category?
Nope; which is why my buddy is so damn frightened.
I see it as just effecting the odds. Have some other things going on, much higher risk; but not a certainty. All sorts of healthy, low odds, but not zero. And the big kicker is that its not death or full health; getting over it can leave folks with chronic ailments and other bits of organ damage.
I've certainly heard of those mice never exposed to any illnesses; healthiest mice in the bubble; death if they ever leave it. There are real high level questions for policy and like all serious issues, rather than real discussions and facts, we get political gamesmanship and shameless lies. My own county went into a regional agreement, setting objective milestones for phases of reopening. Than without explanation, and certainly not apology, just ignored it when the numbers didn't match their plans a few weeks later. And of course moved businesses in and out of categories as seeming political whim. And then there's the issue of selective enforcement. And rather than rage against the machine; folks are spitting on and assaulting Walmart cashiers. I know everyone is highly stressed, but I see it more bringing out the worst in people. Bullying the poor bastard cashier who will be fired if they even raise their voice in response.
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And rather than rage against the machine; folks are spitting on and assaulting Walmart cashiers. I know everyone is highly stressed, but I see it more bringing out the worst in people. Bullying the poor bastard cashier who will be fired if they even raise their voice in response.
Have any of those people actually been prosecuted? I know a few have been arrested, but then they disappear from the news.
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I've certainly heard of those mice never exposed to any illnesses; healthiest mice in the bubble; death if they ever leave it. There are real high level questions for policy and like all serious issues, rather than real discussions and facts, we get political gamesmanship and shameless lies. My own county went into a regional agreement, setting objective milestones for phases of reopening. Than without explanation, and certainly not apology, just ignored it when the numbers didn't match their plans a few weeks later. And of course moved businesses in and out of categories as seeming political whim. And then there's the issue of selective enforcement. And rather than rage against the machine; folks are spitting on and assaulting Walmart cashiers. I know everyone is highly stressed, but I see it more bringing out the worst in people. Bullying the poor bastard cashier who will be fired if they even raise their voice in response.
I'm working 40 plus hours a week in a retail environment. We are in a mandatory mask state and the company I work for is super aggressive about employee/customer safety. Probably to the point of overkill where we have protocols that fall into the realm of diminishing returns.
Plenty of costumers are annoyed, irritated and abuse the staff about mandates and protocols they have nothing to do with implementing.
Generally I try and use a form of soft persuasion in getting customers to wear their mask, asking them to give management and staff a break, it's not our call. Usually that works.
I'm not overly concerned myself but I have teammates that are living in daily fear and terror of Covid -19. No amount of putting things in context seems to help them. They are stuck on 11 when it comes to neuroticism. So many folks are complaining about eye and throat irritation that we switched to a new antiviral sanitizer, away from Virex. The whole building was getting doused in Virex and alcohol to the extreme.
The truth is it is a corona virus and it will spread despite masks, gloves, lockdowns, no lockdowns etc. Half of what we are doing is just the analogue to the security theater of TSA ie "at least we're doing something", regardless if it has any impact on outcomes.
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I was at my dentist today, whose office was closed for 3 months. It was a bit of a madhouse as they are clearly trying to catch up and also keep patients.
My hygienist told me how she has a covid denier husband and that her sister works as a physical therapist in Manhattan. Apparently the sister was moved to a ward for covid recovery where she spends most of her time with folks in their late 30s who have had their lungs so devastated by the illness walking short distances is a major obstacle. When not calling it all fake, apparently her husband says such folks are genetically weak. I get the feeling if he wasn't her husband, he would have been dropped as a boyfriend at this point.
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I was at my dentist today, whose office was closed for 3 months. It was a bit of a madhouse as they are clearly trying to catch up and also keep patients.
My hygienist told me how she has a covid denier husband and that her sister works as a physical therapist in Manhattan. Apparently the sister was moved to a ward for covid recovery where she spends most of her time with folks in their late 30s who have had their lungs so devastated by the illness walking short distances is a major obstacle. When not calling it all fake, apparently her husband says such folks are genetically weak. I get the feeling if he wasn't her husband, he would have been dropped as a boyfriend at this point.
covid denier LOL
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Welp, looks like my nephew in Iowa is on a Corona vector. His Dad texted me that he's been quarantined after starting to feel poorly yesterday, and he's feeling worse today.
He was tested, but is waiting for the results to come back.
He just started his new job as a flight instructor at University of Dubuque last week and took a student up Monday.
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Friend of mine got something that really kicked his butt for a few days. Took a week to feel normal.
He refused, refuses to get tested even now after he is back to feeling good.
He figures he had it and doesn't care to "go on any lists".
I told him to just get tested and he just laughed at me.
This what happens when folks stop trusting their institutions.
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Just talked to my friend. My nephew D (not really a nephew, as I'm not related to his Dad, but I'm closer to him than I am to my own brother, so whatever) shares a house with 4 other guys. And, one of them came back as positive, but asymptomatic (and another roommate is also ill) so it's looking like the Kung Flu has landed.
I texted with D last night and he was not feeling great at all. Poor kid.
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A member of the church we just started attending has tested positive for the beer virus. Everyone wears masks when entering and leaving the church, including the person that tested positive. Social distancing and other beer virus guidelines are observed at the church. This coming Sunday's services have been cancelled.
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^^^Hopefully the church choir is on hold right now; singing in groups in close proximity to each other is a 'superspreader' event.
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^^^Hopefully the church choir is on hold right now; singing in groups in close proximity to each other is a 'superspreader' event.
But chanting, singing, screaming, etc., at a protest rally is not a superspreader event.
Check.
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^^^Hopefully the church choir is on hold right now; singing in groups in close proximity to each other is a 'superspreader' event.
There has been no choir. Services are being held in the church gymnasium which facilitates social distancing.
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Friends and friend's families are starting be positive. One friend was admitted to the hospital while is wife is at home with it. Another friend's dad has been hospitalized for the lat 2 weeks from covid. Other friends have had it milder others fairly severe. Seems like a couple friends everyday make a post on Facebook that they are positive.
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My paralegal has informed me his girlfriend has it. Thankfully, she lives 4 hours away from him in a non disclosed location, so no direct contact. I bite me tongue a lot around him.
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My paralegal has informed me his girlfriend has it. Thankfully, she lives 4 hours away from him in a non disclosed location, so no direct contact. I bite me tongue a lot around him.
She goes to another school. You wouldn’t know her.
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Isn't he in NH? So four hours would easily put hrr in Canada.
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Updated my vote: 1 coworker who recovered fully and the college-aged son of another. The son’s only symptom was a stuffy nose.
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My nephew is back at work, apparently. He said he felt bad for a couple of days, and then his sense of smell was totally messed up for a bit, but now he's feeling right as rain.
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Wanted to wait until this was over before posting. This last two weeks sucked hard.
On 9-2, I started running a 101 fever, was dizzy, and had a killer headache. by 9-4 it was getting hard to breathe normally. Got the nasal test done on 9-4, it came back negative on 9-7, on 9-8 my fever broke, but I could hardly breathe, blood 02 was steady about 92%, doc said stay home unless it goes below 90%. Couldn't walk from the living room to the kitchen without taking a break and the lung cookies were impressive. By this weekend I was getting better. Still something not right in my lungs, doc says it may take a month or two to recover fully. Lost about 15 lbs.
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Glad you're on the mend!
If you were negative do they have any idea else it was?
Take care of yourself man.
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Glad you're on the mend!
If you were negative do they have any idea else it was?
Take care of yourself man.
Pretty sure it was kung flu, my sister works at the lab in the local hospital, and said the nasal test they use usually comes back 30-50% wrong, both false pos, and false neg.
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One of my grandson's freshman classmates has tested positive. My grandson was "exposed" so he has been sent home for "quarantine".
However, his younger brother is required to continue to attend 2nd grade class as normal.
:facepalm:
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Had to update my vote again.
The guy that sits across from me in the office got tested on Friday, and got the positive results this morning.
I have an appointment to get swabbed in about an hour.
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One of my grandson's freshman classmates has tested positive. My grandson was "exposed" so he has been sent home for "quarantine".
However, his younger brother is required to continue to attend 2nd grade class as normal.
:facepalm:
The second part of that is the first reaction by "authorities" I've read that actually makes sense. Everything I've read is that children are neither vectors nor suffer from the disease.1 The second grader should be heading to school unless he become symptomatic.
1: By that I mean that they don't tend to get symptoms. They tend to be either asymptomatic or with very mild symptoms. YES, there are exceptions as a very few children have died from the Wuhan coronavirus, but this disease is less deadly than the flu for children.
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One of my grandson's freshman classmates has tested positive. My grandson was "exposed" so he has been sent home for "quarantine".
However, his younger brother is required to continue to attend 2nd grade class as normal.
:facepalm:
Same situation here.
My oldest was in a class that was exposed and has been doing e-learning for her quarantine. My youngest is still attending.
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Had to update my vote again.
The guy that sits across from me in the office got tested on Friday, and got the positive results this morning.
I have an appointment to get swabbed in about an hour.
RIP your sinuses.
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It wasn't that bad in the grand scheme of things.
Also, since Mrs. Mush works for a local hospital, I slid into the "healthcare worker expedited line" and got my results in about 4.5 hrs.
So far negative. We are monitoring for symptom onset.
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My cousin, 911 operator in upstate NY now has it. He got it from a coworker that was ordered to come into work despite having tested positive. And my wife's cousin got it, along with the rest of his family, as his mother is a covid denier, despite literally being in one of the original hot spots just north of NYC who had followed no guidelines and got sick, then got the rest of the house sick, who did go and get tested. Thankfully none are hospitalization level sick and I hope it also passes through them without reaching that level.
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Older duck hunting buddy is in a 2 week quarantine at the VA hospital.
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HS friend was just admitted to the hospital for a bad covid infection. He tested positive 13 days ago and apparently he's not doing well.
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My Aunt is positive with symptoms, sounds like my cousin is too.
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Daughter's roommate just tested positive. Daughter will get tested tomorrow. And us too, eventually, I'm sure.
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Daughter is negative.
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HS friend was just admitted to the hospital for a bad covid infection. He tested positive 13 days ago and apparently he's not doing well.
Got a message from my friend, blood clots in his lungs from covid.
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A friend of my mom's just passed. 80s; gone in less than two weeks. The rest of her family is hospitalized; daughter, SIL and grandchildren. My Mom said this makes it feel real.
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I was really sick the week of Valentines day. I think it was the rona but am not going to get tested, heck with big brother.
a few friends had the rona's in San Francisco, at work, three new guys claim to have had it in April and May.
The folks I talked to said they were real sick for a week but otherwise just fine
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My Aunt is positive with symptoms, sounds like my cousin is too.
This morning's message, cousin is positive, probably his wife and kiddo. My Uncle too.
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Daughter's roommate just tested positive. Daughter will get tested tomorrow. And us too, eventually, I'm sure.
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Daughter is negative.
And daughter's (now ex-) roomie turns out to be positive but totally asymptomatic. Would never have known if one of roomie's friends hadn't come down with it.
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My brother the nurse, in a Facebook comment:
Are you still working with Covid patients?
Occasionally. The number of covid patients is not quite but almost zero now. Back in April we had a full house in hospital every night, but it dropped off gradually in May-June and has not been bad since then. Someone on my unit has one most nights. We still check everyone that cmes in the door.
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The main number I've been paying attention to is actual hospitalizations.
The use of the word "cases" in the media is propagandist lies designed to instill fear. They are calling all positive tests "cases" as if they were active infections in people under a doctors care.
From the hospitalizations numbers it is looking promising but we are heading into flu season, so I'm keeping my expectations in check.
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The main number I've been paying attention to is actual hospitalizations.
The use of the word "cases" in the media is propagandist lies designed to instill fear. They are calling all positive tests "cases" as if they were active infections in people under a doctors care.
From the hospitalizations numbers it is looking promising but we are heading into flu season, so I'm keeping my expectations in check.
I'm calling no second wave.
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Interesting article that was in my Book of Faces feed....https://bgr.com/2020/09/26/coronavirus-cure-icam-protocol-florida
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I'm calling no second wave.
IF we had allowed those at extremely low risk from the disease to have gone about their business normally and protected the vulnerable, we'd be through this already.
There isn't going to be a "second wave" because we've been dragging the first wave out for 6 months. (Two weeks to flatten the curve!!!)
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You guys know you can get it twice, right? It's not chicken pox.
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You guys know you can get it twice, right? It's not chicken pox.
I didn't know this. I was under the impression that having the virus conferred immunity.
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You guys know you can get it twice, right? It's not chicken pox.
Maybe, maybe not. There is some evidence that may have come from different testing methods, combined with fear propaganda. Truth is we don't know yet.
There is evidence that antibodies may not last, and there is evidence that T cells from previous corona virus infections (even non-covid common cold) provide some level of immunity. The vaccine isn't going to be 100% effective either.
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You guys know you can get it twice, right? It's not chicken pox.
My understanding is that this remains an open question. Tests can return false positive and false negatives. Plus, even with chickenpox some people can get that twice. Increased immunity doesn’t mean that you will be 100% guaranteed to never get something again.
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I didn't know this. I was under the impression that having the virus conferred immunity.
Maybe, maybe not. There is some evidence that may have come from different testing methods, combined with fear propaganda. Truth is we don't know yet.
There is evidence that antibodies may not last, and there is evidence that T cells from previous corona virus infections (even non-covid common cold) provide some level of immunity. The vaccine isn't going to be 100% effective either.
From the staff conference call at my local hospital:
Folks are have been coming in with active COVID-19 (positive SARS-COV-2 tests and symptoms) that have had it in the past. The hospital told their staff that a second positive SARS-COV-2 (not antibody) test with 90 days between them is considered a second infection. Central FL has a non-zero number of people that fit this condition. (I do not know how many, they don't go into that much detail on the conference call.) NYC is also reporting people coming in with cases of COVID-19 that had it, and recovered from it, last spring.
Take that for what you will.
Terminology: COVID-19 is the disease caused by the virus SARS-COV-2. The nasopharyngeal swab test is testing for the presence of the virus (SARS-COV-2) in a viral load high enough to trigger the test.
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You guys know you can get it twice, right? It's not chicken pox.
This is still a matter of debate. Getting it does cause the antibodies to develop in people with healthy immune systems.
What I forsee is the possibility of needing yearly booster shots .... sorta like getting a flu shot every year.
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This is still a matter of debate.
Not really among the people treating the disease. It may be up for debate among political appointees and Twitter.
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Not really among the people treating the disease. It may be up for debate among political appointees and Twitter.
Then we are all doomed. :'(
Unless the second infection confers immunity. >:D
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Not really [up for debate] among the people treating the disease.
Last time I saw that kind of statement, it was that viral article about "an emerging consensus" in the field, that we were approaching Covid all wrong. That was swiftly debunked.
Maybe this one?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/possible-developments-in-the-treatment-of-critical-covid-19-2
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Hospitalizations are down and there have been massive increases in testing.
The science says reinfection of wuflu is rare, at least according to the google.
For 6 months they've told us it isn't like the flu.
Now the science says it is just like the flu, it will mutate and you can be infected with a different strain.
The main thing is, you guys all need to be afraid, and obey, it's very important you obey, and don't listen or trust anecdotal evidence, unless that evidence increases anxiety and fear, because the science or something.
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Hospitalizations are down and there have been massive increases in testing.
The science says reinfection of wuflu is rare, at least according to the google.
For 6 months they've told us it isn't like the flu.
Now the science says it is just like the flu, it will mutate and you can be infected with a different strain.
The main thing is, you guys all need to be afraid, and obey, it's very important you obey, and don't listen or trust anecdotal evidence, unless that evidence increases anxiety and fear, because the science or something.
Define "rare". I'm interested, because as I said in my post my source didn't give numbers. Just said that "they were seeing increasing cases of a second infection". My friend working the hospitals in NYC has also seen more cases of second infection this month. She said she had seen 20 or 30 in Sep, but that's just one person in one hospital.
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Like I said in the post, I just googled it to see what the latest word is regarding second infections.
Not much out there.
We do know that as time goes by the number of folks testing positive is going up. As the virus spreads the through the population and we continue testing high numbers it's a guarantee that reported positive tests are going to go up.
It's a truism, the more people you test the more positives you will find.
How is the hospitalization rate where you are at? From what I'm seeing the hospitalization rate is trending down while the reporting of positive tests is going up.
The only reason I'm not a "covid denier" LOL as Ned slanders them is I believe this is possibly a human edited virus that escaped into the wild in China. So I'm still maintaining (a lower intensity level of) the precautionary principle in my life as a hedge. We need time to see what this virus does and mutates into going forward.
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The cases in my local county have been trending down. It doesn't mention hospitalizations. Deaths are still trickling in, but they never spiked here anyway.
I heard a comment yesterday that some of the testing might be too sensitive and it is giving positives for people who are not contagious. The term had to do with the testing doing too many cycles to concentrate the sample, but I could be wrong on that. I think it was a new study, but I didn't go looking for a link.
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Testing is up only slightly (22,779/wk), while positivity rates have been steadily trending down (5.27%)here. Hospital occupancy (59.66%), admissions (33.33%) and ICU Occupancy (66.77%) are all up and, with some bumps in the rolling average, have been trending up-ish for most of Sep.
I'm told that at least some of the hospitalization increase is non-COVID patients that had put off elective stuff coming in and getting it done. COVID-19 Hospital census is trending down, while the COVID ICU data is very noisy and doesn't really show a trend.
In general, locally, we're doing pretty good. Like I said, the hospital is starting to see and track more second infections, but that hasn't made the county dashboard yet, and they are expecting a bump next week in response to our gov dropping all business restrictions. (and probably the Stanley cup win last night). How big that bump will be is the question, but the local docs and county wonks think we have the capacity to handle what they expect. I think the doc said he wouldn't be surprised to see daily new cases over 200 and positivity back over 6% in the second half of Oct here.
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I'm calling no second wave.
Maybe not where you are...
"To me it was striking. You could see the first wave, it was a nice bell shaped curve up and down, it flattened out, and then since then it’s been steadily rising and over the past three weeks you see that huge spike and that’s just the first limb of another bell shaped curve."
As of Monday, according to Dr. Casey, Bellin Hospital is at 92% capacity, with nearly 30 of those patients being treated for COVID-19. The increase in census has led the hospital to implement contingency plans, like staging overflow patients in hallways until rooms can be found for them. Bellin is also considering measures like discharging patients sooner or limiting elective surgeries like it did back in the spring.
This surge comes as the Bellin system as a whole has more than a hundred staff members quarantined because of exposure to COVID.
“We have no excess capacity and to have 150 people out on quarantine severely limits our ability to adequately care for the surge. It’s a big problem,” adds Dr. Casey.
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An interesting twitter thread from some folks whose models have been decent:
https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status/1308498758548758531
EU looks to be seeing a second wave.
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Deaths are still trickling in, but they never spiked here anyway.
That's part of it, deaths have never really been that high. From the CDC's current best estimate of infection fatality ratio in percent:
0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
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An interesting twitter thread from some folks whose models have been decent:
https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status/1308498758548758531
EU looks to be seeing a second wave.
One "expert" on cable TV said the "second wave" in Europe was spikes in local areas that were relatively untouched by wave 1. Sorta like a pond with numerous stones being tossed in and resulting interference ripples.
The apparent ever-changing set of .... "facts" (I use that word very guardedly) regarding THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN....ooops, I mean covid19, is a source of great wonderment and enormous frustration to me. I know the "no mask" dictum way back when was a lie to keep people from buying PPE to the point healthcare workers would be deprived, but it set a tone to me.
Then we were told that covid19 would go dormant in the summer due to heat.
Anyone think that happened? ? ? ???
I don't.
I know it's a NEW virus. Lots of unknowns. And I really really really hate the politization of this.
And, I guess I'm just tired of the sturmandrung.
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One "expert" on cable TV said the "second wave" in Europe was spikes in local areas that were relatively untouched by wave 1. Sorta like a pond with numerous stones being tossed in and resulting interference ripples.
The modeler I linked to above was asked that very question, and responded thusly:
I think places that were hard-hit in March such as Lombardy, Madrid, Paris, and London will likely see a smaller second wave than the rest of their respective countries.
But they are still going to be impacted.
It remains to be seen if Stockholm will see another wave.
Obviously to a certain extent it's a "pick your expert" thing with COVID, which is why I try hard to limit what I post here to things I either heard first hand from the local hospital, or at most were relayed to me by a trusted friend that heard it first hand.
Covid19-projections.com has proven to be consistently pretty good as far as modeling goes, that's why I linked to his thread. YMMV.
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From April:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWjJj8FX0AAQahv?format=jpg&name=small)
Today, from the doctor who made that chart:
James Todaro, MD
@JamesTodaroMD
Back in April, colleagues & I calculated the IFR for COVID-19 and determined fatality rates were similar to the flu for those under age 50.
Ppl called it “misinformation” back then.
Six months later, CDC reports similar COVID-19 IFR estimates:
0-19 yrs: 0.003%
20-49 yrs: 0.02%
https://twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD/status/1310659016834584582
HUH. Look at that. It's either less dangerous or comparable to the flu for people under 50 and even the CDC admits it now.
(In case you doubt that without the actual data- https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/09/26/cdc-releases-updated-covid-19-fatality-rate-data/)
(https://tallahasseereports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/CDC-Fatality.jpg)
But I was just a naif who relied on what "my mates" on the net said to have come to that same conclusion back in JUNE, while the doctor did it in April...
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This thing is so politicized all the reports, data ,etc are compromised. (or the corollary- some are accurate, but there is no way to tell which.)
I know of one person who died from covid. Never met him, my sisters husbands father. He was 101 years old, in bad shape. Anything could have pushed him over the edge.
Nobody else I know has contracted it, anecdotal reports from some are they got an unusually bad flu this past winter, but it preceded any covid panic- so no testing. Granted I don't mingle with many people, but still- one would think if this was really so severe, we would all know people who got real sick from it.
Without the internet to fan the fear, I wonder if we would even know about it at all. The reporting reminds me a lot of the climate change and gun control fear mongering. A pretty good test run for social conditioning - we ought to be concerned that in the future people are going to look at us getting out of our cars the same way they look at us now without a mask....this is sort of an extension of how they reduced smoking, and how they go after firearms- partially by law, but mostly by making smokers and gun owners social pariahs. No reason they can't use the same techniques for climate change or whatever else strikes their fancy. Of course, all of the "reasons" are BS, the "reasons" are just excuses to mandate control over people- and how sweet it must be to get people to act as the volunteer enforcers "for their own safety".
What they will say- That gas spewing truck threatens us ALL. Just like your GUN. And not wearing a MASK. Or a bike helmet. Your actions cost us money and make us unsafe!
Dad forecast this trend for me 50 years ago-"son, if they can tell you to wear a seatbelt or a helmet "to lessen the cost to society of hurting yourself", they can tell you to do anything for the good of society- we are all part of society, and anything we do has some effect on the rest".
(And so ya'all don't go off on a tangent about risk, I don't smoke, I wear a helmet and I wear a seatbelt- but NOT because someone tells me to.")
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OK, stupid personal impact, but it's a personal impact...
I've been playing hell trying to get Seren a vet appointment. Her regular vet is now conducting appointment protocols that look to have significantly cut back on the number of patients they're able to see. Seren is coming up on needing some vaccinations to stay in daycare (end of October), so I gave a call last week... no available weekend appointments for over a month, and precious few weekday appointments (and none that I could make due to my job).
I understand their concerns -- it's a HUGE vet practice, literally employing dozens of people, plus they're an emergency vet center. If they had COVID run through there it would be a bad, bad thing, not only for their people, but also their clients and pets.
Fortunately, there's a vet practice sort of associated with Seren's daycare, and I was able to get an appointment with them for this Saturday. At least I'll be able to get her the critical vaccinations.
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But I was just a naif who relied on what "my mates" on the net said to have come to that same conclusion back in JUNE, while the doctor did it in April...
This is not you listening to your mates to judge risk, this is you choosing cherry picked sources to confirm your original beliefs which is even worse. Listening to randoms might actually give you an opinion informed by reliable data (for example, one of your mates might have checked the data.)
What you are doing is trawling the net for sources that confirm your opinion. That’s almost guaranteed to give you the wrong outcome.
In regards to the twitter account you posted and the Tallahassee report, you should check the CDC website. COVID deaths remain far higher than flu deaths and the case fatality ratio remains higher.
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This is not you listening to your mates to judge risk, this is you choosing cherry picked sources to confirm your original beliefs which is even worse. Listening to randoms might actually give you an opinion informed by reliable data (for example, one of your mates might have checked the data.)
What you are doing is trawling the net for sources that confirm your opinion. That’s almost guaranteed to give you the wrong outcome.
In regards to the twitter account you posted and the Tallahassee report, you should check the CDC website. COVID deaths remain far higher than flu deaths and the case fatality ratio remains higher.
You mean this page? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html
This page that contains the very same table I posted?
Oh yes. I'm the one who needs to check my data.
And it's funny how I'm cherry picking my data... But by some cosmic coincidence, the more data and experience we get the data converges to what I said in June. (And the "twitter account" from the doctor who ran the data 6 months ago. Also just an amazing coincidence.)
You are free to believe your experts that predicted 2 million (or more) dead in the US alone. I'm sure they have it right now.
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I've never known the annual flue season to need emergency hospital wards for intubated patients, ditto the emergency morgue trailers and mass graves. But, I will say in fairness, its because cost cutting measures took out any degree for more than expected patients/fatalities. Hospital buyouts and mergers have shifted focus to profit driven non medically necessary treatments over actual capacity to deal with the sick and injured.
Given the rampant incompetence from our government and media, I am so utterly glad this wasn't anything worse. Given the response from my fellow citizens... well, I see how we got this government. New York; just outside an epicenter.
I saw my buddy who is a x-ray tech Sunday. They've gone from patients lining the walls of the hallway to a couple in the covid ward. I trust what my local hospital workers tell me for how full/busy their hospitals are more than any website. Sadly, that leaves me out of luck when I want a larger picture. [tinfoil]
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I guess this fall we will see about herd immunity, immunity from previous infection and just how much mutation wuflu goes through.
Remember, half of the respondents here don't even know anyone who has been infected let alone seriously sick.
Another large percentage only know one to a few who fought it off with no issues. Very few know anyone that has passed away due to covid.
But everyone here has been negatively impacted in multiple different ways by the government/media response and politicization of covid.
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Just had a meeting for political candidates to telecast at and found our the former chair, 32 years old, 4 kids, had the corona, and while over it, has some significant lung damage. No preexisting conditions, just a really lousy roll of the dice.
Being near ground zero makes the internet experience really wierd. Everyone in this region knows folks dead and impacted, and others lucky enough to shake it off. My friend at the hospital shared how a coworker said 'thank God it's over' to get started at. Folks literally in the Covid Ward, but hey, he saw it on tv that morning. It reminds of that post on the internet, guy with a mom that's a retired nurse who was an anti masker, spouting about carbon dioxide poison. Brainwashed into forgetting all her training and education and the fact she would wear a mask regularly for long periods by her job.
Such a crazy time.
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I've never known the annual flue season to need emergency hospital wards for intubated patients, ditto the emergency morgue trailers and mass graves. But, I will say in fairness, its because cost cutting measures took out any degree for more than expected patients/fatalities. Hospital buyouts and mergers have shifted focus to profit driven non medically necessary treatments over actual capacity to deal with the sick and injured.
Given the rampant incompetence from our government and media, I am so utterly glad this wasn't anything worse. Given the response from my fellow citizens... well, I see how we got this government. New York; just outside an epicenter.
I saw my buddy who is a x-ray tech Sunday. They've gone from patients lining the walls of the hallway to a couple in the covid ward. I trust what my local hospital workers tell me for how full/busy their hospitals are more than any website. Sadly, that leaves me out of luck when I want a larger picture. [tinfoil]
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/23/6/16-1417_article
Mechanical ventilators are essential for treating influenza patients in severe acute respiratory failure.
Any respiratory flu can cause respiratory failure.
New York infected a LOT of vulnerable people. And even so, had a surplus of ventilators.
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Wife's sister has Covid.
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"New York infected a LOT of vulnerable people. And even so, had a surplus of ventilators."
Well that was all Trump's fault, don't you know. Every one of those dead nursing home patients, infected by COVID patients forced into those homes by Gov. Cuomo's policies, is blood on the hands of Trump. TRUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!
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As mentioned before, in some places, shortage of the respirators themselves was an issue. In many many more places, shortage of respiratory therapists, critical care, and ICU nurses to manage the ventilators was more of an issue.
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The ventilator issue was just politics. No one ever needed the huge numbers that some people were claiming would be needed.
It seems if you ever want to screw things ups, turning it into a political issue will do it. Even if it isn't screwed up, it will be made to appear that way.
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My mother-in-law tested positive for it and now my wife, who visited her just before this, like a day, even though masked and plastic between then them, has diarrhea and feels like carp. Calling the doc for a test for her tomorrow. If she tests positive, I'm headed to the VA hospital...
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Sorry to hear that. Guess you were right: it can ALWAYS get worse!
(prayer sent)
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It may just be a stomach bug. She's better this evening.
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Friend's dad is being taken off life support, his kidneys have failed. He's been in ICU for at least three weeks after being hospitalized for Covid. I think he's in his lower 70s.
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Friend's dad is being taken off life support, his kidneys have failed. He's been in ICU for at least three weeks after being hospitalized for Covid. I think he's in his lower 70s.
Not to be ghoulish, but did he have any other underlying issues?
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Not to be ghoulish, but did he have any other underlying issues?
Maybe type 2 diabetic, that would about it.
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Maybe type 2 diabetic, that would about it.
As i recall, that one may be the biggest risk.
Very sorry for your friend.
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As i recall, that one may be the biggest risk.
Very sorry for your friend.
He passed away at 8pm cst tonight. Going to be very rough for my friend, her parents are her everything.
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He passed away at 8pm cst tonight. Going to be very rough for my friend, her parents are her everything.
That sucks, condolences to your friend.
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Terri, my wife, gets her C-19 test tomorrow.
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Terri, my wife, gets her C-19 test tomorrow.
Prayers for both of you whenever I read your posts Speedy.
Charby, you must live in a real hotspot, a lot of your friends and family getting infected and having bad outcomes.
Thankfully, despite living in an early hotspot I've heard or known of very few people even testing positive, let alone having serious complications.
Just my one buddies father who had been in hospice care for nearly a year who passed away after taking his second fall. He tested positive but admittedly had a lot of things going bad at once.
The handful of other folks testing positive fought it off or had very mild symptoms thankfully.
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We will know in 2 - 5 days. Free test at CVS. I got my Flu shot while we were there, it was free as well.
PS: Free as in no copay with medicare.
PPS: Didn't hurt a bit. I've had worse skeeter bites.
:old:
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Prayers for both of you whenever I read your posts Speedy.
Charby, you must live in a real hotspot, a lot of your friends and family getting infected and having bad outcomes.
Thankfully, despite living in an early hotspot I've heard or known of very few people even testing positive, let alone having serious complications.
Just my one buddies father who had been in hospice care for nearly a year who passed away after taking his second fall. He tested positive but admittedly had a lot of things going bad at once.
The handful of other folks testing positive fought it off or had very mild symptoms thankfully.
Much of Iowa has been a hot spot since June.
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High School friend has it, she's an elementary school teacher about seventy miles from my 20.
Her words: Well....I kind of felt like it was inevitable....today my COVID test came back positive. I have, of course, the ODD symptoms - loss of smell/taste, a wild rash, and the typical symptoms - deep cough and congestion. We are quarantined and resting. Praying the symptoms stay minor.
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Another childhood friend's 19 year old son is positive, he lives with her and his 6 year old asthmatic brother.
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I went to the VA for my test today. 3 - 5 days for results. Terri was tested Saturday, 2 - 5 days for hers we are told.
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I went to the VA for my test today. 3 - 5 days for results. Terri was tested Saturday, 2 - 5 days for hers we are told.
You folks exhibiting any symptoms?
Be well!
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Another member of the church we just joined has tested positive for COVID. Everyone wears masks when entering and leaving the church, including this second person that tested positive. Social distancing and other guidelines are observed at the church. This coming Sunday's services have been cancelled. This is the second cancellation since we started attending this church.
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We have had some symptoms, diarrhea, taste issues (wife), sinus issues (more than normal), increased coughing (me), headaches (CONSTANT, BAD ones in my case), generally feeling "blah" and sleeping our lives away.
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We have had some symptoms, diarrhea, taste issues (wife), sinus issues (more than normal), increased coughing (me), headaches (CONSTANT, BAD ones in my case), generally feeling "blah" and sleeping our lives away.
Take Vitamin D3 of you can get it.
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Take Vitamin D3 of you can get it.
Take 2 a day already
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30 day poll.
You can change your count as situation changes.
Only count those you have met personally unless otherwise indicated.
We're a pretty small sample spread out throughout the country but it may be interesting.
We can discuss local cases to us but counts are only for personally known friends, family or acquantences.
Ratcheted up one.
Got an email from a customer, about a quote I'd mostly forgot about. When can I set up X? I've been laid up for a while with "the virus", etc. I assume "the virus" here is the China Flu.
Small town police chief, I'd guess him to be about 10 years younger than me, mid-50s.
(It's been long enough I'll need to recheck pricing and availability.)
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So much for the 30 day window =D
I'm still surprised (pleasantly) at how few people I know who have actually been infected.
Considering I live in the third most populous region of the country just outside one our largest cities I would have expected to know of more "cases".
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Tell me about it. I know one person, my nephew, who has had it.
Of course, to hear some talking about it (you know who I mean) every person in the US has had it 7 times and died 9 times, and everyone of them caught it at a Trump rally, because everyone knows street protests don't spread it.
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I know of a family that had a birthday party and it turned into a super spreader event amongst the family. There were 3 couples that were not invited to the party and they are 'Rona free.
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I know of a family that had a birthday party and it turned into a super spreader event amongst the family. There were 3 couples that were not invited to the party and they are 'Rona free.
Everybody from that event is OK I hope.
Fall/winter is obviously the big flu season so I expect we'll be hearing more stories about gatherings where people pick it up.
The good news is we flattened the curve (and then some) and hospitals have figured out the best protocols for handling those who really get knocked down. Bad outcomes even among the high risk are going down.
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The wife's test came back NEGATIVE, mine will probably be negative as well.
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The wife's test came back NEGATIVE, mine will probably be negative as well.
Great news!
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And, ah, one more. Local gun shop (one guy and his son) is self isolating for a couple weeks.
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Got a message from the assistant pastor of my church a couple of days ago. He were supposed to meet for lunch this week. However ... the sexton tested positive, so both the pastor and assistant pastor are now in quarantine for two weeks. The church had only recently gone back to live services. Now it's back to virtual mass on Facebook. Except previously they celebrated the mass in the empty church -- now they'll be celebrating the mass from home.
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I feel exhausted, not hungry and have a dry cough. The wife is freaking saying I need to go get a test. I'm like I am always exhausted I have lukemia and the cough might be smoking for 36 years.
I told her I'm headed for the cabin and see how I feel tomorrow.
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I feel exhausted, not hungry and have a dry cough. The wife is freaking saying I need to go get a test. I'm like I am always exhausted I have lukemia and the cough might be smoking for 36 years.
I told her I'm headed for the cabin and see how I feel tomorrow.
Take care and get yourself in to the doc if you have flu/cv19 type symptoms.
They've learned a lot since the early days on how to treat it and the flu season is practically non existent so far, probably from all the ppe/social distancing and the aggressive monitoring and treatment who show flu like symptoms.
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Been going pretty good the last few days with no one I know being covid positive, then I got 10 messages today from friends and family in Iowa who are covid positive. One is livid she is unable to vote, can't get out bed to even do a drive up vote.
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Had ANOTHER Covid-19 test today that I should have the results for by Wednesday. I went to my GI appointment at the VA Tuesday and they want to Endoscope me Thursday and possibly do another Botox injection while they are in there seeing as my Achalasia of Esophagus is kicking back up again.
Weeeeeee! :old:
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"another Botox injection"
BAH! Too expensive!
Here, eat this jar of home canned green beans. Don't mind the bulging lid, they're just eager to meet you.
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"another Botox injection"
BAH! Too expensive!
Here, eat this jar of home canned green beans. Don't mind the bulging lid, they're just eager to meet you.
Hey, it's the VA, for all I know, that's where they get it from! ;)
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Found out my niece tested positive. I was told all she had was some loss of smell and a 99 F fever. Apparently someone at her work tested positive, but didn't say anything right away. She had a second test to confirm. She is 19 so I don't expect anything more serious.
So my brother and his wife were likely exposed. My parents saw her the week prior, but they don't think she had it at that time. Now I am trying to decide if I should go visit this weekend or probably wait at least a week.
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Another HS classmate tested positive this AM in the ER. She's not the healthiest person, sad to say I'm giving her 50/50 if she survives it if it goes bad.
It's spreading like wildfire in IA, MN, IL and WI.
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Found out my niece tested positive. I was told all she had was some loss of smell and a 99 F fever. Apparently someone at her work tested positive, but didn't say anything right away. She had a second test to confirm. She is 19 so I don't expect anything more serious.
So my brother and his wife were likely exposed. My parents saw her the week prior, but they don't think she had it at that time. Now I am trying to decide if I should go visit this weekend or probably wait at least a week.
If she tested positive, you definitely should NOT visit. If you do, under the rules of many states you would be considered to have been exposed and you should self-quarantine for two weeks.
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If she tested p[ositive, you definitely should NOT visit. If you do, under the rules of many states you would be considered to have been exposed and you should self-quarantine for two weeks.
I think it's his parents he's visiting, not the niece.
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"Now I am trying to decide if I should go visit this weekend or probably wait at least a week."
Yeah... no.
Unless, of course, your goal in life is to become the next Typhoid Mary...
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"Now I am trying to decide if I should go visit this weekend or probably wait at least a week."
Yeah... no.
Unless, of course, your goal in life is to become the next Typhoid Mary...
Typhoid Mark maybe? I am not prepared to become a Mary.
I will probably put off visiting for a week and make sure everything is okay.
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It was an analogy.
What you do with your swizzle stick is your own business... :rofl:
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Our DIL, oldest son's wife, tested positive a couple days ago. She is a therapist at a rehab hospital and has been required to work with Covid patients who have been hospitalized and now need therapy. She's been sick for couple days...fever, achy, no taste or smell, feeling weak. She said today the symptoms are not particularly bad. Our son and her son live with her and now are quarantined as well.
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Just an anecdote to add: My niece caught the Covid at work where she wears a mask all day. The teacher/coworker who had it was also wearing a mask. No other information than that. Just thought I would mention it. She is working at a day care.
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I've held off on buying a plague doctor mask to mock superstitious and ineffective mask use since March, figuring the mask requirements would end the second I bought one.
But I'm so tired of the mask mandates that I'm willing to take one for the team. It's like washing your car, only for it to rain the day after.
So I have a plague doctor mask inbound. Mask mandate should be over within the week.
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I've held off on buying a plague doctor mask to mock superstitious and ineffective mask use since March, figuring the mask requirements would end the second I bought one.
But I'm so tired of the mask mandates that I'm willing to take one for the team. It's like washing your car, only for it to rain the day after.
So I have a plague doctor mask inbound. Mask mandate should be over within the week.
They're still available? ? :O
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Yep, still available.
It cracks me up if I go to a liquor store and get carded while wearing a gaiter or mask. It should be really fun to do it with a plague doctor mask.
Hell, I kinda wish I bought it a week ago. I would have gone and voted in person wearing it.
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I've held off on buying a plague doctor mask to mock superstitious and ineffective mask use since March, figuring the mask requirements would end the second I bought one.
But I'm so tired of the mask mandates that I'm willing to take one for the team. It's like washing your car, only for it to rain the day after.
So I have a plague doctor mask inbound. Mask mandate should be over within the week.
You will get to wear it with pride next year. Biden promised a nationwide mask mandate if he were elected.
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Yep, still available.
It cracks me up if I go to a liquor store and get carded while wearing a gaiter or mask. It should be really fun to do it with a plague doctor mask.
Hell, I kinda wish I bought it a week ago. I would have gone and voted in person wearing it.
Yeeeup, on Amazon. Bought mine - - - due to arrive Sunday!! =D
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I never did try to get one of these.
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I've held off on buying a plague doctor mask to mock superstitious and ineffective mask use since March, figuring the mask requirements would end the second I bought one.
But I'm so tired of the mask mandates that I'm willing to take one for the team. It's like washing your car, only for it to rain the day after.
So I have a plague doctor mask inbound. Mask mandate should be over within the week.
Do you have a nice wide flat-brim hat to go with it? :) (and a cane and overcoat to complete the costume) Fill the beak with polyester batting and you'll actually have a filter mask. You might need to do that anyway for it to hold its shape
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Do you have a nice wide flat-brim hat to go with it? :) (and a cane and overcoat to complete the costume) Fill the beak with polyester batting and you'll actually have a filter mask. You might need to do that anyway for it to hold its shape
No, no, no... the beak is filled with fragrant flower petals and herbs, to keep the COVID vapours at bay.
Where did you go to Plague Doctor school?
Good point about that hat. I shall ponder it while my next autopsy case is deloused.
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I never did try to get one of these.
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I no *expletive deleted*it tried to order a couple different Batman masks in July and they never showed up. Thanks Amazon fulfillment!
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My friend had one of his restaurant staff get diagnosed as having the Covid. As if times weren't bad enough for his new restaurant; shut down for at least the next two weeks and who knows how many more of the staff, and maybe himself, will develop it during their quarantine.
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We have had a number of employees come down with it at my work. Each has taken their two weeks and come back into work. No known cases of spread within the business. No lasting impacts for any so far.
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Just got a call from the school. Everyone is quarantined tomorrow until they can do tracing. So that means all of us.
I said love you see you in a couple days or weeks. Inthe cabin.
If it's a couple weeks need an airdrop.
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This stuff is really starting to get around in my state (WI). Know about a dozen people who have had it, symptoms ranged from a mild cold to an average flu.
Kids' School is still open, my son had a somewhat abbreviated football season, and they are only letting 2 family members of each player into the football stadiums.
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One of my friend's set of grandparents died from an extended battle with covid last night. They died with in hours of each other, in separate hospital rooms and no family allowed to visit. No Covid and they would probably still be alive.
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Our oldest son lost his sense of smell and taste along with a phlegmy cough today. His wife was diagnosed with Covid about a week ago and she is getting better from loss of smell, taste, a cough and general malaise at home. Her son lives with them and he's 28, has a bad liver from drinking and weighs over 300 lbs. If he gets it, and it's pretty certain he will as he's in the household, I hope the strain they have is the mild one. my other DIL's niece and her boyfriend are throwing lost of taste and smell symptoms as well.
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Coworkers daughter tested asymptomatic. She and her young son live with coworker and her husband. Fortunately everyone is still fine and coworker is primarily work from home.
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One of my friend's set of grandparents died from an extended battle with covid last night. They died with in hours of each other, in separate hospital rooms and no family allowed to visit. No Covid and they would probably still be alive.
Whose idea was that, and why are we still doing it?
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Whose idea was that, and why are we still doing it?
I believe the health care facilities, were pretty full in many in Iowa and short staffed.
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I believe the health care facilities, were pretty full in many in Iowa and short staffed.
I don't get the connection.
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They have closed school until at least 11-27.
The health department was closed today so no contact tracing to know if we need to stay in quarantine. Really?
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Our little dweeb of a governor has "mandated" more bullshit. Now a business must post a "no mask, no service" sign. Go get em Mike, you little *expletive deleted*it.
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I don't get the connection.
Probably trying to control the spread within the facilities? I'm just a toxicologist not public health person and I haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn for quite a while.
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Our little dweeb of a governor has "mandated" more bullshit. Now a business must post a "no mask, no service" sign. Go get em Mike, you little *expletive deleted*it.
And now he’s sending the gestapo out to ensure compliance
“Our new Retail Compliance Unit, comprised of agents led by the Bureau of Workers' Compensation, will inspect to ensure compliance.”
https://www.whio.com/news/local/gov-dewine-scheduled-hold-statewide-address-today/GH5DMBEJWZDFHDBE6ZGDBR6TDU/ (https://www.whio.com/news/local/gov-dewine-scheduled-hold-statewide-address-today/GH5DMBEJWZDFHDBE6ZGDBR6TDU/)
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Probably trying to control the spread within the facilities? I'm just a toxicologist not public health person and I haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn for quite a while.
Seems pretty weak. It's one thing to keep out the general public. It's another thing to say there's no way for a few family members to come in, with gloves and masks and such.
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And now he’s sending the gestapo out to ensure compliance
“Our new Retail Compliance Unit, comprised of agents led by the Bureau of Workers' Compensation, will inspect to ensure compliance.”
https://www.whio.com/news/local/gov-dewine-scheduled-hold-statewide-address-today/GH5DMBEJWZDFHDBE6ZGDBR6TDU/ (https://www.whio.com/news/local/gov-dewine-scheduled-hold-statewide-address-today/GH5DMBEJWZDFHDBE6ZGDBR6TDU/)
Ya know, those people have addresses, and families...
Solzhenitsyn is absolutely a cautionary tale for this slippery slope we're on.
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Seems pretty weak. It's one thing to keep out the general public. It's another thing to say there's no way for a few family members to come in, with gloves and masks and such.
Millcreek, care to weigh in?
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Everybody from that event is OK I hope.
Fall/winter is obviously the big flu season so I expect we'll be hearing more stories about gatherings where people pick it up.
The good news is we flattened the curve (and then some) and hospitals have figured out the best protocols for handling those who really get knocked down. Bad outcomes even among the high risk are going down.
Everyone has recovered.
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Neighbor across the street is positive, she's a teacher, her husband, also a teacher, I imagine will be positive eventually. Neighbor 2 doors down is positive, he works at a senior living complex, I imagine his whole household will be eventually.
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And one more. Dad's lady friend emailed all of us this morn, to tell us that she got it. Doesn't know where she picked it up, as she's following all the avoidance advice. Sounds like she's doing well, all things considered. She's, I think, 85-ish. My Dad (90) sees her regularly.
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A couple of teammates at work tested positive, separate incidents not a common source of infection. We have a handful of folks out quarantined per our contact tracing protocols.
The fear around here (Chicago suburbs) is palpable, I almost want to slap some of the guys and tell them to stop acting like little girls.
The mass hysteria and neuroticism being propagated by the media is just ridiculous.
Tyrannical gynocracy run amok.
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The fear around here (Chicago suburbs) is palpable, I almost want to slap some of the guys and tell them to stop acting like little girls.
The mass hysteria and neuroticism being propagated by the media is just ridiculous.
Tyrannical gynocracy run amok.
It's done what it was made to do.
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In the retail establishment I work in we have multiple folks out either through contact tracing or from testing positive with symptoms.
So far it runs its course, they come back to work, rinse and repeat, not unlike the flu.
Other than the PANIC! DOOM! DEATH! OMG! FEAR! FEAR! our staffing is like a bad flu year, maybe a little worse due to the contact tracing.
Do not be afraid.
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Do not be afraid.
So what about the lasting heart and lung disease concerns even in asymptomatic infections of Covid?
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So what about the lasting heart and lung disease concerns even in asymptomatic infections of Covid?
What percentage of those who get infected develop "lasting heart and lung disease concerns"?
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What percentage of those who get infected develop "lasting heart and lung disease concerns"?
Figuring this virus is about a year into discovery, that probably won't be know for several years or even decades.
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Figuring this virus is about a year into discovery, that probably won't be know for several years or even decades.
So nobody knows, got it.
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So nobody knows, got it.
Yep, it's all speculation at this point.
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Anyone remember back when someone with Adam Schiff-like secret information and a self-professed very deep understanding of how Coronavirus impacts humans warned us that a significant COVID risk was dying bleeding from one’s eyes?
Any confirmation on that dire threat beyond reports of overproduction of tears and inflamed conjunctiva?
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Figuring this virus is about a year into discovery, that probably won't be know for several years or even decades.
For some reason I get the impression that you would be happy with current restrictions and lock downs lasting that long, just to be sure everyone is safe.
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Anyone remember back when someone with Adam Schiff-like secret information and a self-professed very deep understanding of how Coronavirus impacts humans warned us that a significant COVID risk was dying bleeding from one’s eyes?
Any confirmation on that dire threat beyond reports of overproduction of tears and inflamed conjunctiva?
It was from friends who worked as doctors, nurses and admins at hospitals in Iowa. I do talk with more folks in real life than I do online. These hospital folks are/were under gag orders from their superiors, so why would I risk someone's income I grew up with or went to college with to placate someone I've never met?
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For some reason I get the impression that you would be happy with current restrictions and lock downs lasting that long, just to be sure everyone is safe.
Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.
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It was from friends who worked as doctors, nurses and admins at hospitals in Iowa. I do talk with more folks in real life than I do online. These hospital folks are/were under gag orders from their superiors, so why would I risk someone's income I grew up with or went to college with to placate someone I've never met?
No one wants your secret sources to have their incomes endangered.
Is that still a symptom they are concerned about? Is there a reason that isn’t a symptom reported elsewhere?
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It was from friends who worked as doctors, nurses and admins at hospitals in Iowa. I do talk with more folks in real life than I do online. These hospital folks are/were under gag orders from their superiors, so why would I risk someone's income I grew up with or went to college with to placate someone I've never met?
Apparently, it is either extremely rare or hospitals and doctors all over the country are keeping quiet about it for some reason. Could easily be some other medical condition or due to the treatment given (or interaction of some type). Without more information, you might as well say an alien burst from their chest.
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Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.
Wear masks, stay home, wash your hands is very good advice. The lockdowns have very little to do with that. The people issuing the lockdowns don't take them seriously, they just expect you to because they are better than you or something.
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Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.
As Bob said, the hygiene advice is good, but preventing personal infection won’t make the lockdowns end, and it is ridiculous to claim that. Mass immunity either through immunization or sufficient infection/recovery is the only thing that will make the lockdowns end.
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Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.
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I played over 30 rounds of golf this season and hunted in 3 states so far, I wouldn't call me a caged bird.
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No one wants your secret sources to have their incomes endangered.
Is that still a symptom they are concerned about? Is there a reason that isn’t a symptom reported elsewhere?
This came about when the meat packing plants in IA, MN and SD were having a Covid outbreak with their workforce. Might of been a strain that caused the immune system to go into overdrive and start eating the body, might of been ethnic, I'm not sure.
This is from a medical journal-https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3899649/
Tissue damage caused by the immune system
Almost all virus infections cause the recruitment and activation of inflammatory cell types — particularly macrophages and, in some infections, neutrophils — that in turn release a range of molecules that induce tissue damage or malfunction. These include cytotoxic cytokines, cationic proteins, lipid mediators, metalloproteinases and components of the oxygen burst. The reactive oxygen species that accumulate in the mitochondria may further contribute to tissue damage3. Both innate and adaptive immune signalling events are involved in mediating tissue damage.
As politicized as this disease has been, who knows what people are hiding about it.
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I played over 30 rounds of golf this season and hunted in 3 states so far, I wouldn't call me a caged bird.
You said you wanted people to stay home.
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You said you wanted people to stay home.
Neither of those activities involve large groups of people.
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I might finally qualify for this thread. I came down with almost every symptom (except loss of taste) of both the flu and the China virus last night. I went to the state's "crush the curve" assessment site this morning and FINALLY qualified to take the test (I had been interesting in knowing if I already had it, but never qualified for a test).
Gotta drive an hour to the site this morning. I could have had it done 30 minutes away, but that's a 4 day wait for results. Going to the main testing site, they'll let me know tomorrow.
Edit: Also, if you guys never hear from me again, it means that I stabbed myself in the brain. =D
This site is a self-collected COVID-19 testing site. Say what? I’m sure you have heard about those swabs that tickle your brain? Well, you won’t have to do that here! This is the same test but the nasal specimen is collected by you and doesn't go up as high as the other on. But, no need to fret - our trained staff will walk you through every simple step and observe that you collect the specimen properly!
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You'd better not get Steve sick!
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You'd better not get Steve sick!
I've already got him set up!
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You can't die, I haven't seen your Idaho fortress yet. I hope you're negative.
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You can't die, I haven't seen your Idaho fortress yet. I hope you're negative.
Thanks! So far the symptoms are mostly irritating, in the bad flu way - cough, sore throat, head kills, chills and fever, and my body feels like I volunteered to be a boxer's heavy bag. Nausea but no diarrhea (yet). Might end up just being the flu, or I might be one of the people that only has moderate symptoms. If I had the "can't breathe" symptoms, I'd be more worried.
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I was hoping this would burn out by now but my hope has been deferred.
Another one at work tested positive.
None of them are getting more ill than having bad flu symptoms, which is good relatively speaking.
The bad is we have a lot staff out do to very high contact tracing and quarantine standards.
So far, everyone seems to have picked it up someplace other than work.
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Thanks! So far the symptoms are mostly irritating, in the bad flu way - cough, sore throat, head kills, chills and fever, and my body feels like I volunteered to be a boxer's heavy bag. Nausea but no diarrhea (yet). Might end up just being the flu, or I might be one of the people that only has moderate symptoms. If I had the "can't breathe" symptoms, I'd be more worried.
Who would have thought we'd get to a point where hoping somebody has the flu would be a good thing :P
Hope you bounce back fast Ben.
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You said you wanted people to stay home.
He wants other people to stay home =D
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He wants other people to stay home =D
There is a lot of that going around.
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I woke up with a dry, scratchy throat this morning. I think it's actually due to the change in weather (and relative humidity), but I went for a COVID test this morning anyway. If I have COVID, I really need to know because of my activities at the community collage. The test was free, and results take 24-48 hours. Wish me luck!
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"the community collage"
You're gluing everyone in your community onto a great big sheet of construction paper?
I've heard of interactive art, but that's... ambitious. :rofl: :rofl:
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"the community collage"
You're gluing everyone in your community onto a great big sheet of construction paper?
I've heard of interactive art, but that's... ambitious. :rofl: :rofl:
It kind of defeats the whole social distancing thing.
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"the community collage"
You're gluing everyone in your community onto a great big sheet of construction paper?
I've heard of interactive art, but that's... ambitious. :rofl: :rofl:
They are all in it together
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I might finally qualify for this thread. I came down with almost every symptom (except loss of taste) of both the flu and the China virus last night. I went to the state's "crush the curve" assessment site this morning and FINALLY qualified to take the test (I had been interesting in knowing if I already had it, but never qualified for a test).
Gotta drive an hour to the site this morning. I could have had it done 30 minutes away, but that's a 4 day wait for results. Going to the main testing site, they'll let me know tomorrow.
Edit: Also, if you guys never hear from me again, it means that I stabbed myself in the brain. =D
Having had a couple of those tests, It is my considered opinion that those "administer it to yourself" testing sites are a horrible idea. Unless you have a *very* strange fetish a normal person isn't going to get that swab where it needs to be on themselves. Good Luck. FWIW, every nurse I know that has been nasopharyngeal swabbed agrees with me. If you think you are there, you are about a cm short of the spot. also don't forget the twirl.
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"the community collage"
You're gluing everyone in your community onto a great big sheet of construction paper?
I've heard of interactive art, but that's... ambitious. :rofl: :rofl:
=D :P
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"If you think you are there, you are about a cm short of the spot. also don't forget the twirl."
Every time I read the description of the swab testing I have an involuntary shudder and I feel faint and nauseated...
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"If you think you are there, you are about a cm short of the spot. Also don't forget to twirl."
That's what she said.
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My 56 year old cousin has it. Low grade fever, congestion and mild body aches started We’d so he went and got tested. Positive results and is feeling much better now. We were fishing together 2 weeks ago and I had sinus congestion and itchy eyes then and chalked it up to allergies.
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Having had a couple of those tests, It is my considered opinion that those "administer it to yourself" testing sites are a horrible idea. Unless you have a *very* strange fetish a normal person isn't going to get that swab where it needs to be on themselves. Good Luck. FWIW, every nurse I know that has been nasopharyngeal swabbed agrees with me. If you think you are there, you are about a cm short of the spot. also don't forget the twirl.
I didn't poke myself in the brain, but whether I did it right, I do not know. They have a nurse come out to your car and walk you through it. The swab has a marking on it and the nurse told me when it was in my nose far enough I guess because the mark disappeared. She told me to slowly and lightly go up far enough to meet resistance, then start twirling. It was up my nose far enough that my eyes watered when I twirled, so hopefully I got it far enough up there.
The 24 hours is now apparently 24-48, because we've had a rash of cases. Still better than the 4-7 day quotes for test sites closer to the house.
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I didn't poke myself in the brain, but whether I did it right, I do not know. They have a nurse come out to your car and walk you through it. The swab has a marking on it and the nurse told me when it was in my nose far enough I guess because the mark disappeared. She told me to slowly and lightly go up far enough to meet resistance, then start twirling. It was up my nose far enough that my eyes watered when I twirled, so hopefully I got it far enough up there.
The 24 hours is now apparently 24-48, because we've had a rash of cases. Still better than the 4-7 day quotes for test sites closer to the house.
I just had another one today, must of changed a chemical or something on the swab, burned like something fierce up both nostrils.
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"If you think you are there, you are about a cm short of the spot. also don't forget the twirl."
Every time I read the description of the swab testing I have an involuntary shudder and I feel faint and nauseated...
I had one done before the 2nd shoulder surgery in June. Until they pulled the drain out of my abdomen after my gallbladder 6 weeks later it was in strong contention for the single most unpleasant thing I've ever had to sit and endure.
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He wants other people to stay home =D
"Staying Home" from the beginning didn't mean lock yourself in your house and have food & sundries dropped off on your front porch. It meant don't participate in events where there is large groups of people and one is unable to social distance. Such as concerts, sporting events, crowded restaurants/bars, big weddings, etc.
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Having had a couple of those tests, It is my considered opinion that those "administer it to yourself" testing sites are a horrible idea. Unless you have a *very* strange fetish a normal person isn't going to get that swab where it needs to be on themselves. Good Luck. FWIW, every nurse I know that has been nasopharyngeal swabbed agrees with me. If you think you are there, you are about a cm short of the spot. also don't forget the twirl.
They're a fantastic idea. I specifically sought one out for my test, cause no way do I want anything shoved that far up my nose. My wife had already tested positive, so I was already quarantined.
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"cause no way do I want anything shoved that far up my nose."
Why?
It's not like the probe is going to hit anything... :rofl:
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"cause no way do I want anything shoved that far up my nose."
Why?
It's not like the probe is going to hit anything... :rofl:
I'm smart! Not like everybody says - like dumb. I'm smart and I want respect!
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" I'm smart and I want respect!"
You've come to the wrong place for that, princess...
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"Staying Home" from the beginning didn't mean lock yourself in your house and have food & sundries dropped off on your front porch. It meant don't participate in events where there is large groups of people and one is unable to social distance. Such as concerts, sporting events, crowded restaurants/bars, big weddings, etc.
Except that's not how it has been mandated in many areas. Remember the guy in Kalifornia that got busted for being out on the ocean on a paddle board...all by himself, with the only people that he got close to were the cops that arrested him. That was the norm in far too much of the country and it is what they are trying to push even now with some places trying to mandate people wear mask even in their own home.
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" I'm smart and I want respect!"
You've come to the wrong place for that, princess...
I only come here for the occasional updates on whether you're in or out of the HOA. =)
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"Staying Home" from the beginning didn't mean lock yourself in your house and have food & sundries dropped off on your front porch. It meant don't participate in events where there is large groups of people and one is unable to social distance. Such as concerts, sporting events, crowded restaurants/bars, big weddings, etc.
Some glaring omissions in your list, man. Staying home from work, school, church, race riots, fascist marches, etc. Sure, those fit the description of large groupings, but let's not downplay what people have given up.
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Except that's not how it has been mandated in many areas. Remember the guy in Kalifornia that got busted for being out on the ocean on a paddle board...all by himself, with the only people that he got close to were the cops that arrested him. That was the norm in far too much of the country and it is what they are trying to push even now with some places trying to mandate people wear mask even in their own home.
I don't live in those areas (or plan too) and the majority there elected their own leaders.
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I only come here for the occasional updates on whether you're in or out of the HOA. =)
"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"
Oliver Cromwell, president of his HOA.
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Hey Ben, how are you feeling this morning?
Do we have to send in a special team to get Steve out of the hot zone?
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Hey Ben, how are you feeling this morning?
Do we have to send in a special team to get Steve out of the hot zone?
Thanks for asking. Feeling about the same as yesterday except the chills seem to have subsided. Low energy today though. I tire out walking from one room to the next. :lol:
Still waiting for the test results. I think Steve is okay. He might be a little mad at me as I'm keeping him outside a lot during the day and if I wake up at night and find him on the bed, I'm making him go back to his own bed. As much for me getting some rest as for him not getting the China virus. :)
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He's on the bed with you to make sure you're safe and secure and watched over.
You're interfering with his primary duty, you heartless bastard! :rofl:
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He's on the bed with you to make sure you're safe and secure and watched over.
You're interfering with his primary duty, you heartless bastard! :rofl:
I think he actually is. Usually when he decides to jump on the bed, I find him curled up next to me, usually in the leg area. The last two nights I woke up and his head was on my chest.
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I think he actually is. Usually when he decides to jump on the bed, I find him curled up next to me, usually in the leg area. The last two nights I woke up and his head was on my chest.
He definitely is.
Last time I was good and sick Seren stayed on the bed with me, with her head on my chest or leg, for most of the day. Other dogs in my life have also done that, as well. They're protecting/defending/comforting a sick member of the pack; in this case, the pack leader. Let him do his job.
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Let him do his job.
I will. As long as he doesn't charge me overtime. :laugh:
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Dogs have actually been shown to suffer undue amounts of stress when they are unable to care for their sick human.
In other words, screw your comfort, Pink Monkey, stop interfering with your dog's job!
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I will. As long as he doesn't charge me overtime. :laugh:
You ahole capitalist overload. I hope he bites your nads. =D
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You ahole capitalist overload. I hope he bites your nads. =D
A$$hole Capitalist Overload is a band name.
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A$$hole Capitalist Overload is a band name.
I, for one, hail our new ahole Capitalist Overloads.
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Great news guys! I tested positive!
(https://i.imgur.com/GUrTddb.jpg)
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How are you feeling?
Last night I had a conversation with a coworker who was out with the wuflu recently.
If it wasn't for contact tracing and then getting tested she would have never guessed she had it, her symptoms were incredibly mild. Her boyfriend picked it up in a bar.
In a normal year she said she would have just come to work as she didn't feel sick enough to justify calling in sick.
Hopefully your infection mirrors her experience!
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How are you feeling?
Still pretty similar to having a moderate case of the flu. Body aches, headache, super tired, etc. I will say that I woke up last night with shortness of breath and was unable to breathe well laying in bed. I moved to my recliner and spent the rest of the night there with my upper body slightly elevated, and that relieved the symptoms.
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Still pretty similar to having a moderate case of the flu. Body aches, headache, super tired, etc. I will say that I woke up last night with shortness of breath and was unable to breathe well laying in bed. I moved to my recliner and spent the rest of the night there with my upper body slightly elevated, and that relieved the symptoms.
She is in her 20's, they seem to fare better symptom wise than those who are more seasoned ;)
Received another email from work last night, another teammate tested positive.
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Rescue team 1, stand by to extract Steve from the hot zone!
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Rescue team 1, stand by to extract Steve from the hot zone!
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He'll be fine. He's already locked me out of the house. I just peeked in the window and saw he was sitting in my recliner, drinking my beer, and watching Dog TV.
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^^^It is good that Ben is reminded of his place on the food chain.
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He definitely is.
Last time I was good and sick Seren stayed on the bed with me, with her head on my chest or leg, for most of the day. Other dogs in my life have also done that, as well. They're protecting/defending/comforting a sick member of the pack; in this case, the pack leader. Let him do his job.
My Lab mix was so excited about me coming home just now, she kept following me around with her big, excited mouth hanging open, and that look in her eyes. I felt like a prey animal. :lol:
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Hope you kick this one with ease, Ben. We're all rooting for you. =)
My covid test came back negative. Still feels like I have a very mild head cold, which is probably what I have. However, the fact that I caught it tells me that I'm really not being careful enough in covid world. =| Time to reflect on recent decisions.
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Hope you kick this one with ease, Ben. We're all rooting for you. =)
My covid test came back negative. Still feels like I have a very mild head cold, which is probably what I have. However, the fact that I caught it tells me that I'm really not being careful enough in covid world. =| Time to reflect on recent decisions.
Thanks. I'm already feeling a little better this morning. Still super tired and body aches to where I just want to lie around and nap, but given it's Thanksgiving, I was gonna do that anyway. :laugh:
I'm also reflecting regarding how I caught it. As I mentioned in the other thread, the state only wants contact info from me for interactions less than six feet apart and for 15 minutes or more. If I use that as a guideline, I had no such interactions for the 48 hours before symptoms started. I was at four different establishments: Home Depot, where everyone was masked; the local diner drive through where I wasn't masked but the person who handed me my food was; the car wash, where I just touch my credit card to the reader; and the gas station. Home depot was the only place I was inside.
Given all that, it seems my most likely scenario is forgetting hand washing or else scratching my face or something on the drive home. I know I didn't sanitize after I pumped gas.
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Thanks. I'm already feeling a little better this morning. Still super tired and body aches to where I just want to lie around and nap, but given it's Thanksgiving, I was gonna do that anyway. :laugh:
I'm also reflecting regarding how I caught it. As I mentioned in the other thread, the state only wants contact info from me for interactions less than six feet apart and for 15 minutes or more. If I use that as a guideline, I had no such interactions for the 48 hours before symptoms started. I was at four different establishments: Home Depot, where everyone was masked; the local diner drive through where I wasn't masked but the person who handed me my food was; the car wash, where I just touch my credit card to the reader; and the gas station. Home depot was the only place I was inside.
Given all that, it seems my most likely scenario is forgetting hand washing or else scratching my face or something on the drive home. I know I didn't sanitize after I pumped gas.
As contagious as the virus is, you'll probably never know where you caught. I'm glad you're feeling better, I hope that trend continues.
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I'm also reflecting regarding how I caught it. As I mentioned in the other thread, the state only wants contact info from me for interactions less than six feet apart and for 15 minutes or more. If I use that as a guideline, I had no such interactions for the 48 hours before symptoms started. I was at four different establishments: Home Depot, where everyone was masked; the local diner drive through where I wasn't masked but the person who handed me my food was; the car wash, where I just touch my credit card to the reader; and the gas station. Home depot was the only place I was inside.
That's probably just to reduce the amount of data to something manageable. (otherwise, why the stupid one-way aisles in supermarkets? (many of the stores around here have abandoned that)) I would not read too much into it. Glad you're feeling better.
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That's probably just to reduce the amount of data to something manageable. (otherwise, why the stupid one-way aisles in supermarkets? (many of the stores around here have abandoned that)) I would not read too much into it. Glad you're feeling better.
I would tend to agree with your assessment on manageable data, but it then begs the question regarding the science. If "they" only want that "15 minutes or more" data, then they are either not following through regarding contacts, or the shorter contacts just really aren't important and all the freaking out about being passed by an unmasked person on the street is theater.
I would concede that if I had a five second interaction with someone who sneezed as he passed me, that I would have a much higher chance of getting the virus, so I might fall on the side that says the 15 minute rule doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Science has very little to do with anything. Nobody with a public voice does science anymore. I am not a scientist, but I am an engineer (not Engineer because I have the degree but not the license) and I am qualified to evaluate science and try to apply it. They are studying the hypothesis that the ones funding their research want, then they try to prove it. You're supposed to try to disprove your hypothesis. :facepalm:
Bastard science still has some value (often not much), and I trust that there are still researchers doing real science in the background and are never allowed speak to the public.
When you hear the word "denier" bandied about, you know you are not talking to people who even know what science is; they are just religious zealots and probably don't realize it.
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Personal impact: Out of caution, my 70-something parents did not attend the usual Thanksgiving feast with the rest of the family. Beyond that, it was Thanksgiving as usual.
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Personal impact: Out of caution, my 70-something parents did not attend the usual Thanksgiving feast with the rest of the family. Beyond that, it was Thanksgiving as usual.
Sorry they succumbed to the fear mongering, it's understandable.
You folks had a good time while solemnly reflecting upon whose land you stole as well as all the wealth that was appropriated from innocent indigenous peoples living in an Eden like state of purity and innocence?
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Sorry they succumbed to the fear mongering, it's understandable.
On the other hand, due to age, they're in a slightly higher risk category than you or I. We had at least 25 people in our group, from different parts of the state, so I don't blame them for skipping out on the festivities for one year.
1. Personal choice, instead of mandates
2. Those at higher risk taking responsibility for themselves, instead of the majority suspending everything forever, with masks on.
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On the other hand, due to age, they're in a slightly higher risk category than you or I. We had at least 25 people in our group, from different parts of the state, so I don't blame them for skipping out on the festivities for one year.
1. Personal choice, instead of mandates
2. Those at higher risk taking responsibility for themselves, instead of the majority suspending everything forever, with masks on.
With 25 there it is perfectly understandable.
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A couple at church tested positive, holed up, and recovered. But, hard on the tail of that he ends up in the hospital with symptoms that the dr. thinks are Guillain Barre syndrome. Roughly our age (sixty-something).
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Friend passed away from Covid last night, he called me Sunday AM from the hospital and told me he was admitted, Covid positive and he had a hard time breathing. 5 days.
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Sorry for your loss, Charby. Were there any underlying issues that complicated his illness?
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Sorry for your loss, Charby. Were there any underlying issues that complicated his illness?
If it wasn't for Covid he'd be alive. He was a cancer survivor, so that was his underlying issues, cancer didn't kill him, Covid did.
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Ah crap. So very sorry, Charby.
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Condolences for your loss Charby.
I was back home at my brothers last weekend and we had dinner at a good friends house on Friday. He is a retired Cleveland police officer and worked the Browns game Sunday. Woke up Monday with a sore throat and lost sense of smell Tuesday. Tested positive Wednesday and is doing good. No other issues. Me, my brother and cousin went to Cleveland Browns game on Sunday but didn’t run into him there as he was working security in a different part of the stadium parking area.
Not sure if he was contagious on Friday (he thinks he was exposed Sunday) but who knows. No one else in our dinner group of 9 (including his wife and 3 daughters) are showing any symptoms.
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Ah crap. So very sorry, Charby.
John was one of the board members (Range Officer) on the gun club I'm president of. It sucked sending out that email today in regards to his passing and upcoming visitation. John was a big 1911 fan and told the greatest stories of his bachelor escapades in the 1970s.
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Update: Stepdaughter-in-law and step-granddaughter (1) were both ill with some kind of cold bug. Negative tests for COVID in both cases. Because of their illness they stayed home on Thanksgiving. However, stepson and step-granddaughter (2) came to Thanksgiving at our house.
Following Monday I came down with cold symptoms. Too lazy to get a COVID test down at the CVS.
Wednesday, stepson starts cold symptoms.
Wednesday night SWMBO comes down with cold symptoms.
Last night, stepson was admitted to the hospital for breathing difficulty. He is currently on O2 and various other drugs to reduce symptoms. Doctor declares he has COVID due to his chest x-rays, this despite two negative tests by this point. Doctor also declares drive-in testing is bogus. Stepson does carry too much weight, obese would be the correct term.
My illness is slowly getting better. It's just been like a common cold to this point. SWMBO seems to have plateaued, should start improving over the next few days.
Do any of us really have COVID? Who knows, given the poor information about it floating around. At least the hospital gets the federal subsidy now that stepson has been admitted "with COVID".
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Another of my coworkers tested positive after Thanksgiving. He got it from some family that came down from NY for the holiday.
That makes two confirmed cases in my shop of 11.
Coworker is in a low risk category and was at home, quarantined from his family all week.
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Two friends and coworkers, a married couple at work were two of the positives we had at work I mentioned earlier in the thread. I'm not sure where they picked it up (not work though), they took a long vacation and were only back for a day or two then came down with symptoms.
She had mild symptoms and is now back, he had a rougher time of it though and is out longer. Cleared to come back early next week. He has a history of high blood pressure but is otherwise in great shape.
He is a cyclist so his BP issues are related to something other than physical fitness. I'm not sure his BP has anything to do with his experience though. He is a bit younger than me, in his early 50's.
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A colleague was diagnosed several days ago. Her primary symptoms were difficulty breathing and exhaustion. After a rough couple of days, she seems to have turned the corner. Fortunately, she never had to go to the hospital.
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We have two sets of neighbors who had a family gathering at Thanksgiving, and all of the attendees (four in one family and six in the other) were diagnosed with COVID. One was hospitalized, due to pre-existing asthma, and the two middle-aged adults in one family had a rough time of it, but did not need hospitalization. The younger adults had it easier.
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Well, I've (get the tenses right) come down with something. It feels like just a bad cold, at the "chills & hacking up pflegm*" stage. I suspect it is a cold, but I'm sure I'll end up getting the China Flu test. My experience of taste and smell is unaffected.
(*"pflegm", looks like a Lovecraftian word, something out of an eldritch creepy-crawly summoning ritual.)
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test tomorrow, "2-4 days" for results.
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Simple nasal swab, however accurate that may be. Day 4 of chills, cough, random aches, intermittently loose bowels and other fun stuff.
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While an employer cannot control behavior outside of work ... there is a bit of surprise at the number of folks coming down with cold/flu symptoms in our location, even though most don't have the China virus.
The thought was we might knock down the colds and flu among staff with our incredibly extreme protocols in response to the China virus.
At least at our location, that hasn't panned out.
Rest, plenty of liquids and get well soon!
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wrong thread
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Turns out my stepson did test positive for COVID. His doctor gave him the wrong results from his earlier test. He was just sent back to the hospital for breathing difficulty. He was sent home yesterday with oxygen, but it's not done much good.
So, that means my wife and I likely have COVID, as well, having got it from her son at Thanksgiving. It's just been like a medium grade cold for both of us so far, with the added benefit of diarrhea.
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Our 23 year old daughter tested positive today. Last time any of us immediate family were around her was last Friday. She started showing symptoms Saturday, tested Monday and got results today.
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Our niece, who as a new RN, starting working at the hospital in August, tested positive on Sunday.
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I guess I'm up to two.
A high school friend of my son, he's in his mid 30s. Minor symptoms, no apparent lingering effects.
My daughter-in-law's 92 year old grandfather. Sick with flu-ish symptoms for about week, never hospitalized. Today was day 14 of his after sick quarantine. He demanded his keys from his daughter and drove himself to the library.
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Just got a text from the husband of a couple I've been friends with for the last 15 years or so, his wife tested positive for Covid 4 weeks ago and in the hospital with spreading pneumonia, on a CPAP with oxygen. Can't seem to keep the pneumonia from spreading with antibiotics and other drugs. We're the same age, lives in Iowa, 3 hours from me. This sucks, she is his world.
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Well, I've (get the tenses right) come down with something. It feels like just a bad cold, at the "chills & hacking up pflegm*" stage. I suspect it is a cold, but I'm sure I'll end up getting the China Flu test. My experience of taste and smell is unaffected.
(*"pflegm", looks like a Lovecraftian word, something out of an eldritch creepy-crawly summoning ritual.)
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test tomorrow, "2-4 days" for results.
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Simple nasal swab, however accurate that may be. Day 4 of chills, cough, random aches, intermittently loose bowels and other fun stuff.
results back today. If accurate, I have the China Bat Eater's flu. Sounds like I need to hole up in the house for another week or so, and watch for shortness of breath.
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results back today. If accurate, I have the China Bat Eater's flu.
You mean the CCP bioweapon beta version. :)
I'm pretty much over mine, except that I still have a cough and some phlegm, and am still getting extraordinarily tired after any activity. Usually after a cold or something, to get over that run down feeling, I'll force myself back into cardio, like punching the heavy bag, but it ain't happening yet with this. I just got done with 1.5 hours on the tractor and I'm ready to hit the rack.
Hope you end up with just a mild case.
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Close friend of the family, fathers business partner 30+ years, late 70's maybe early 80's in the hospital with pneumonia and the China virus.
On a ventilator but is said to be doing well and getting better.
He did some traveling from Illinois down to Texas then back up with a stop in Arkansas along the way.
Came down with it right after he got back.
Multiple risk factors so there is much concern. His age, lifelong smoker (quit 3 years ago) and only one kidney.
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Receptionist at work has it. She got it from her daughter, who got it from a friend that came back from FL. The ironic thing is that the receptionist was the official temperature checker, for the few of us that were coming into work. The CEO was going in for surgery today, when he got there they sent him home because he had an elevated temperature, but before giving him a Covid test, so we will see.
Another co-worker that was WFH got it from his daughter and wife going to the mall where they both got it.
ETA: The CEO tested positive for Covid. Also, I forgot a third co-worker announced on the Book of Faces that he has Covid.
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I’d say about 1/2 of my coworkers have had it already. I’m trying to avoid it since I am out of vacation for the year:/
There’s only been one case where someone was out for more than 2 weeks- an early 20s woman was out for 2.5 months, and came back completely worthless... though she was worthless before covid, and now has a ‘medical excuse’ to be a slug.
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with the added benefit of diarrhea.
A running joke is always fun.
It's just been like a medium grade cold for both of us so far,
I also award you a medium grade for the joke. "Here's your C." >:D
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Stepson is getting better, actually went for a drive with his wife yesterday as they were going stir crazy cooped up in the house.
Wife and I still have mid-grade cold symptoms with the wife also suffering occasional bouts of nausea and vomiting. We've both had diarrhea, as well.
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Stepson is getting better, actually went for a drive with his wife yesterday as they were going stir crazy cooped up in the house.
Wife and I still have mid-grade cold symptoms with the wife also suffering occasional bouts of nausea and vomiting. We've both had diarrhea, as well.
Turns out all the crazy hoarders were right all along.
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I posted this on Facebook the other day: "I'm about ready to start licking doorknobs and just get it over with, one way or another."
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I posted this on Facebook the other day: "I'm about ready to start licking doorknobs and just get it over with, one way or another."
Same here. I don't believe most of what they're telling us. For my age and physical fitness, I'll take my chances on a disease that's 99.6 % survivable (when last I checked)
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results back today. If accurate, I have the China Bat Eater's flu. Sounds like I need to hole up in the house for another week or so, and watch for shortness of breath.
Nurse called later with some supplement recommendations. The only ones I wasn't already taking are zinc and lycine. He also prescribed a short course of an asthma drug.
In theory, I'm close to the end of when they want me to hole up. In fact, I still feel like crap. Food started tasting odd, then I lost almost all appetite. I have enough extra flesh to buffer me for quite a while. Nausea, diarrhea, intermittently, and a cough. Joy. Nurse wonders if the intestinal upset might be from some of the supplements. I'll hold off on what I didn't already take.
And when I get done, Dearest Wifey gets to hole up for a couple weeks. Right through Christmas, which is kind of a bust this year anyway.
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I've taken zinc over the years starting way back in the day when ZMA was a popular supplement for those of us who lifted weights.
My system never has had problems with zinc and it is a biggie in the world of fighting off cold/flu bugs.
Magnesium on the other hand ...
Get well soon, thanks for the update.
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In theory, I'm close to the end of when they want me to hole up. In fact, I still feel like crap. Food started tasting odd, then I lost almost all appetite.
While I'm over the bioweapon, oddly, I just a couple of days ago discovered I lost my sense of smell. I can't recall if that happened when I had the full-on symptoms, but I don't think so. I was getting some cinnamon for my oatmeal the other days, and realized I couldn't smell it. I usually strongly smell it from feet away. I stuck my nose right in the container, and I could barely smell it. Tested a few other food items with a strong smell, and same deal. I read one "long haul" article that said this can go on for weeks after initial symptoms.
Kind of a bummer that I also can't smell my Christmas tree. =(
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My Folgers 1850 Pioneer Blend coffee tastes absolutely fabulous since the beer virus has had its way with my taste buds. When my taste buds finally get back to normal I have a feeling I may need to find a better coffee as I may be very disappointed in the original flavor that I enjoyed.
The wife brought me a piece of cinnamon toast today. I could barely taste the cinnamon. Normally it's a strong pleasant flavor to me.
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While I'm over the bioweapon, oddly, I just a couple of days ago discovered I lost my sense of smell. I can't recall if that happened when I had the full-on symptoms, but I don't think so. I was getting some cinnamon for my oatmeal the other days, and realized I couldn't smell it. I usually strongly smell it from feet away. I stuck my nose right in the container, and I could barely smell it. Tested a few other food items with a strong smell, and same deal. I read one "long haul" article that said this can go on for weeks after initial symptoms.
Kind of a bummer that I also can't smell my Christmas tree. =(
That is part of the temptation of getting cinnamon sticks or toast. Hope you get better.
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Close friend of the family, fathers business partner 30+ years, late 70's maybe early 80's in the hospital with pneumonia and the China virus.
On a ventilator but is said to be doing well and getting better.
He did some traveling from Illinois down to Texas then back up with a stop in Arkansas along the way.
Came down with it right after he got back.
Multiple risk factors so there is much concern. His age, lifelong smoker (quit 3 years ago) and only one kidney.
Still in the hospital, off the ventilator.
Now they are waiting for his blood 02 levels to rise back to normal.
He is in good spirits and chomping at the bit to go home.
It was categorized as covid-19 related pneumonia. I may have got the technical name wrong, I'm not sure my dad relayed the correct term.
Regardless, his prognosis is good so that is a relief to everyone.
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Just got a text from the husband of a couple I've been friends with for the last 15 years or so, his wife tested positive for Covid 4 weeks ago and in the hospital with spreading pneumonia, on a CPAP with oxygen. Can't seem to keep the pneumonia from spreading with antibiotics and other drugs. We're the same age, lives in Iowa, 3 hours from me. This sucks, she is his world.
She ended up in ICU on a vent the next day after I posted, today she went off the vent and appears to be on the path to recovery. So 6 days on a vent. Fingers crossed.
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Classmate's mother died the day after Thanksgiving from secondary complications (grossly obese, COPD from being a two pack a day smoker).
We're going to a funeral tomorrow for a family friend who died at 53. Unbelievably quick relapse after being well on the way to full recovery. Four days from feeling fine to dead.
Several family members have had it to varying degrees, ranging from a 102 deg fever for a week to nothing more than a headache and sniffle.
SWMBO and I have dodged it so far.
Brad
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Found out today the operator that was on shift yesterday came down with a fever last night. A few of us were there yesterday. Our COVID procedure means everyone who can stay out of the control room does. So I am working from home. Apparently, the operator's wife came up positive today and he was getting tested today. So I am just trying to make sure my nutrition is good and get plenty of rest. Just in time for Christmas.... =)
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Still in the hospital, off the ventilator.
Now they are waiting for his blood 02 levels to rise back to normal.
He is in good spirits and chomping at the bit to go home.
It was categorized as covid-19 related pneumonia. I may have got the technical name wrong, I'm not sure my dad relayed the correct term.
Regardless, his prognosis is good so that is a relief to everyone.
Friend of the family was released a couple days ago. His O2 levels still aren't back up to normal but they allowed him to go home. He could have stayed in longer but he did not want to be in the hospital any longer.
In a conversation with a couple of coworkers who were out with the china virus earlier this fall, they both said they are starting to doubt the narrative about it in the media. Obviously they aren't doubting it exists but both said if we weren't in the midst of a pandemic they would have thought they just picked up a nasty flu.
At work we haven't had anyone have to quarantine since before Thanksgiving so that is a good sign.
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Found out today the operator that was on shift yesterday came down with a fever last night. A few of us were there yesterday. Our COVID procedure means everyone who can stay out of the control room does. So I am working from home. Apparently, the operator's wife came up positive today and he was getting tested today. So I am just trying to make sure my nutrition is good and get plenty of rest. Just in time for Christmas.... =)
So I thought this one guy was okay, but apparently he never go over it. He had fever again last week and his wife was admitted to the hospital. Apparently he was also as I heard today he was released, but his wife will be in there a few more days.
Everyone else at work is okay so no one is in a hurry for him to come back.
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My brother told me my estranged sister has the 'rona.
She lives in a nursing home. She has had several strokes, is diabetic and has high blood pressure. He was able to "visit" here over the weekend via phones at a window. She is only mildly sick. She described it as a moderately bad cold.
Apparently even with the nursing home's strict policies one or more of the staff came to work infected and passed it around to the residents
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Lost my cousin to it today. He was 52.
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Lost my cousin to it today. He was 52.
My condolences Lennyjoe, so sorry to hear that.
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Found out my 82 year old neighbor passed away Monday. Over the the last few years he has had multiple heart problems/congestive heart failure issues, several low order strokes and a variety of other health issues. over the weekend he had another "minor" stroke and was complaining of chest pains/heart attack symptoms. The hospital tested him for covid and he was positive. So, another covid death.
He was a pretty good neighbor and an interesting character. We always got along and shared produce with him and his wife while she was still alive and took him cantaloupes when I had any.
During the '70s he worked for Peabody Coal and was at the level where if they needed him for something in a hurry they would frequently send out a helicopter to pick him up. The one day said helicopter failed at beating the air into submission adequately and succumbed to gravity in a what I have heard was a fairly spectacular fashion. My neighbor was the only survivor and he had suffered a traumatic head/brain injury. It took several years for him to recover and he wasn't really the same person after the accident. I'm a year older than his son and we ran around together some back in the '70s so I had met him but didn't really know him then.
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Man, I guess I'm one of those CCP bioweapon long haulers. I still have a pneumonia-like cough, mostly as I hit the rack and through the night, and my *expletive deleted*ing sense of smell hasn't come back. I didn't lose my sense of smell until a couple of weeks after I was over the one week of being pretty sick, which I thought was weird. As I've been reading about it though, there seem to be a lot more people like me with the "delayed reaction". Apparently it can take several months or more for the "long haul" symptoms to end.
I can live with the cough, but not being able to smell bacon cooking for breakfast is just outrageous! :laugh:
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In August/September 2019 I went to the ER for a serious nosebleed. Soon after that I got clobbered with the worst cold I ever had... to the point where I would cough when the chest x-ray tech asked me to raise my arms. So I don't know how anyone could tell anything with that movement just as the x-ray was taken.
But it was one mizzible effing cold. I got an Rx for some penicillin variant, and had to ask for another week's worth, which seems to have knocked it out finally.
I'm still wondering if I was one of the first victims of the chinkbug. Nominal onset of the epidemic was in March-April of 2020 (~4-5 months later) , but these things aren't like turning on a light switch, like, you know, click and "Oh, there's an epidemic!"
My present Doctor says I don't need a test, either by nose swab or blood draw, so I don't know. I'm waiting for my insurance provider to let me know when I can get my first vaccination shot.
I'm in one of those high-risk if I get it (82yo) but low risk to get it in the first place since I only go out once a week for provender and observe all the precautions re mask and hand-washing. I keep forgetting about the six-foot "rule" though.
Terry, 230RN
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My wife and I both have it.
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My wife and I both have it.
Well, it was nice knowing you, Boomhauer.
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My wife and I both have it.
Sorry to hear that. Hope she gets well soon. =D
Oh, and you too. >:D
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Sorry to hear that. Hope she gets well soon. =D
Oh, and you too. >:D
Lol thanks. I actually have no symptoms, she has normal cold symptoms plus can’t taste or smell which is what prompted us to get tested. I’m just hoping not to lose my taste lol I have quarantine snacks to eat
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Y'all get better soon. Hope it all breaks down to be an annoying "cold".
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I forgot to update this thread.
I had it a few weeks ago. Just minor cold symptoms for 6 days, then I lost taste and smell. 100.1 fever for a couple hours on night 8, then I slept for 13 hours and woke up mostly symptom free. Medication was a few courses of alka-seltzer, mucinex and a daily emergen-c supplement. And LOTS of hot tea, with a touch of medicinal rum some evenings for a hot toddy. Still can't smell anything, taste is mostly back. Compared to how some people have gotten wrecked by this, I got lucky. There but for the grace of God go I...
Never got tested, I refuse to add to the governors weekly whine fest about increasing numbers. Most of my closer acquaintances got it, and enough positive tests among them and similar symptoms was enough. I'm up to 17 that I know got it. No deaths (touch wood)
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My wife is having a most unpleasant time with rashes, hives and bumps driving her nuts. It’s a side effect she never anticipated.
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My wife is having a most unpleasant time with rashes, hives and bumps driving her nuts. It’s a side effect she never anticipated.
It's ebola.
Brad
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My wife is having a most unpleasant time with rashes, hives and bumps driving her nuts. It’s a side effect she never anticipated.
she sure she doesn't have shingles?
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she sure she doesn't have shingles?
I’m not sure if it’s a possibility or not. She did not have Chickenpox as a child, instead her age was the first to get the chickenpox vaccine. She does have the wildcard factor of having lupus, it is dormant currently.
The bumps and rashes and such pop up randomly and disappear a couple hours later only to emerge a few hours down the road again.
It is better than more severe symptoms of the Kung Flu such as needing a vent or oxygen at least.
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I’m not sure if it’s a possibility or not. She did not have Chickenpox as a child, instead her age was the first to get the chickenpox vaccine. She does have the wildcard factor of having lupus, it is dormant currently.
The bumps and rashes and such pop up randomly and disappear a couple hours later only to emerge a few hours down the road again.
It is better than more severe symptoms of the Kung Flu such as needing a vent or oxygen at least.
"It might be a tumor"
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A new technician at work had his Father going into the hospital yesterday with COVID. He survived the night, but the doctors told the family to not expect it. Holding on so far.
Another coworker's wife tested positive this morning and had a fever. I was in contact with him yesterday (half of us were).
The other coworker who had it over Christmas recovered and it back working. His wife was still using an O2 machine last I heard. They both got hit pretty hard by it.
They say there are more cases around here and it looks like that is the case. The one good thing is it seems the treatment at the hospital has improved over what I would hear 10 months ago.
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The bumps and rashes and such pop up randomly and disappear a couple hours later only to emerge a few hours down the road again.
I just talked to a Nurse friend that is positive. She has asthma and feels like crap but the thing she said that stood out was she was getting random breakouts of hives and a rash that come and go. With your wife and now her that makes two people I have heard of that happening to now. Interesting to me.
bob
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Last February, had something that basically felt like I spent an hour in the CS gas training building... Sinuses dumped for over 48 hours straight, I swigged Nyquil, and slept on my stomach with my head hanging over the side of the bed. Shortly afterward, one of my cow-orkers got sick as a dog, and then fast-forward to December 14, came down with a crud, hit an Urgent Care, got tested, negative, but ran a fever between 100-102 for about a week and a half.
The doctor was hitting on me. She said I had a cute bronchitis. I was flattered.
My boss and another cow-orker just came back to work from two-week quarantines.
Here in St. Louis in the City (I now live in South City, and if I NEVER go back to Cranklin County, it will be too soon), we're at about 328 deaths with the 'Rona, out of a population of a bit over 319,000. Somewhat over half, maybe significantly over half, were patients in skilled nursing facilities.
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An observation from my gentrified, 90+% voted for Clinton, neighborhood.
The folks who are getting hurt the worst are the fully woke.
They have businesses that they CANNOT open, unless they be decried as being less than woke.
The "working" diner? They're open as max as possible with the Democrat administration restrictions.
The Trendy "diner?" They still do curbside takeout, if I _ever_ see anyone sitting at their curb. And they can't open, or the trendy folks will hate on them.
The local "we serve MEAT" bars and restaurants are open as much as possible.
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Had it.
Sore throat on one side when I swallowed or yawned, felt like I had a fever but no elevated temperature. Felt a little more tired than usual for a couple days. Honestly I didn’t think anything of it at the time because it seemed more like it had to do with my left Eustachian tube instead of something more general. Then as those symptoms cleared up I suddenly lost my sense of smell. Completely. As in I couldn’t smell vinegar if I put my nose right up to it (that was actually how I noticed it). That got incrementally better but for whatever reason I still can’t smell many unpleasant odors. Food smells fine, if maybe a little muted, and fragrances in soap, deodorant and such are mild but detectable - but I don’t smell bad breath, flatulence or feces at all. Very weird.
Also spicy food isn’t as spicy. I still feel it, but way less than beforehand.
I did not die while bleeding from the eyes.
I had been working from home for a couple weeks and wearing a fresh cloth mask when I went to the store (the only time I was going out at the time) and washing my hands when I got home. I have no idea where I picked it up.
No one else in my house got it.
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Just a concept from an essential retail employee?
DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE IF YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE "IN QUARANTINE."
Now, I am pretty sure I had it at one time or another. But that magic mask ain't gonna do *expletive deleted*it. Not unless it leaves a groove in our face.
Especially if it is one of the fancy N95s with a vent. No, that does NOT impress the counter help.
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Had it.
Then as those symptoms cleared up I suddenly lost my sense of smell. Completely. As in I couldn’t smell vinegar if I put my nose right up to it (that was actually how I noticed it). That got incrementally better but for whatever reason I still can’t smell many unpleasant odors. Food smells fine, if maybe a little muted, and fragrances in soap, deodorant and such are mild but detectable - but I don’t smell bad breath, flatulence or feces at all. Very weird.
I still don't have mine back. As I mentioned earlier, mine didn't start until several weeks after the "main" symptoms were completely gone. It has changed somewhat to be similar to yours, in which it's almost selective. Just now, sticking my nose in my coffee cup, I was barely able to wake up and smell the coffee - barely detectable. I can't at all smell the body wash I use in the shower, so am constantly going around in public wondering if I stink like a hippie. :laugh:
Overall it's selective not only in what I smell, but how strongly I smell it, variably. Sometimes I don't smell a thing, sometimes I can detect it barely to moderately. Nothing is "back to normal" at this time. I just saw an MD interviewed on the TV, and she was talking about how this symptom is related to the nervous system, which is a little worrisome.
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I still don't have mine back. As I mentioned earlier, mine didn't start until several weeks after the "main" symptoms were completely gone. It has changed somewhat to be similar to yours, in which it's almost selective. Just now, sticking my nose in my coffee cup, I was barely able to wake up and smell the coffee - barely detectable. I can't at all smell the body wash I use in the shower, so am constantly going around in public wondering if I stink like a hippie. :laugh:
Overall it's selective not only in what I smell, but how strongly I smell it, variably. Sometimes I don't smell a thing, sometimes I can detect it barely to moderately. Nothing is "back to normal" at this time. I just saw an MD interviewed on the TV, and she was talking about how this symptom is related to the nervous system, which is a little worrisome.
Same thing here.
I can't smell ANYTHING. Like the whole shop smelled like rancid nasty burned gear oil and I had no idea. And that *expletive deleted*it stinks.
Still thankful for an otherwise easy time. I'll take middling cold symptoms and taste/smell issues over getting put on a ventilator.
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So I still have no sense of smell. I've been reading about this "smell training":
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201201/smell-training-might-speed-the-senses-return-after-covid
I'm trying to find an online training on how to do it, as most articles so far just talk about it, but have no step by step references. I just had bacon and eggs for breakfast and am sick and tired of not being able to smell the bacon. :laugh:
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So I still have no sense of smell. I've been reading about this "smell training":
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201201/smell-training-might-speed-the-senses-return-after-covid
I'm trying to find an online training on how to do it, as most articles so far just talk about it, but have no step by step references. I just had bacon and eggs for breakfast and am sick and tired of not being able to smell the bacon. :laugh:
Obviously you are not woke enough. Wake up and smell the bacon.
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Obviously you are not woke enough. Wake up and smell the bacon.
:O
Surely you mean the gluten-free, bacon flavored soy strips.
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:O
Surely you mean the gluten-free, bacon flavored soy strips.
They smell like sadness and despair.
[barf]
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And, another tech in the PC side of the business sounds like he's come down with "teh covids!". That'll make 3 out of the 4 of us.
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Another coworker came down with COVID...or so it appears. He needs to get tested. Woke up with a low grade fever and loss of sense of smell. At least I haven't see him since Friday. Definitely more people in my circle have been catching it.
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Wife's sister has it. She says she is having moderate cold symptoms. She's a dental assistant lots of close contact with the general public.
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Thought the #1 spawn had it...took him to pediatrician and got the test (late Thursday afternoon). Test was sent to area Children's hospital (pediatrician is not connected to that hospital in any way, totally different health system but all the kid Covid test goes to the hospital.) Come Friday (next day) SWMBO gets a call from the School Nurse telling us the Covid test for #1 spawn is negative. She is in no way in his continuum of care, they are 100% remote right now. I'm sure something we signed gave them the ability to look at his record, so that is on us but going forward *expletive deleted*ck No are you getting your hands on my kids' records. The school nurse then called SWMBO again today asking what the results of the Strep test was, we had it done at the same time as the Covid test, and SWMBO was very cold to the nurse.
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Well, this not being able to smell *expletive deleted*it is now more than a bother.
Last night I guess Steve did his usual "sneak onto the bed while Ben is asleep" thing, then promptly got sick and threw up on the foot of the bed. I slept through it and just saw the barf this morning when I got up, which soaked through the comforter and the sheets. His barf usually smells terrible. He has barfed in the house a couple of times before at night and the smell woke me up (I usually have a much better than average sense of smell). This time I slept right through it all.
I can only imagine what the bedroom smells like this morning. I've been washing all the bedsheets and spraying deodorizer everywhere since 0500 this morning. I'm starting to get paranoid about what other smells I'm missing, like expired milk that I might be drinking. Gets you to thinking just how much we rely on our sense of smell "in the background" as it were, in our daily lives.
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Mine has been returning slowly. Still not great but I have noticed a definite and regular improvement.
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"then promptly got sick and threw up on the foot of the bed."
Seren did that trick a few weeks ago.... right after eating a mess of raw ground turkey that I mixed in with her kibble.
The smell wasn't terrible, but the optics were a freak show...
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So Ben, do you have any propane/natural gas appliances in the house? I wonder if you could smell a leak.
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So Ben, do you have any propane/natural gas appliances in the house? I wonder if you could smell a leak.
I do (propane) and that's always a worry. I have a propane detector, but it's from Amazon, so you always have to wonder about quality.
I'm looking a trying this or similar to see if I can speed up my olfactory recovery:
https://www.fifthsense.org.uk/smell-training/
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Old couple at my church got it a few weeks ago. She tested positive but had no symptoms and never got sick. He (much older, mid-80s I think) started out with what he thought was a bad cold (and might have been at first.) I suspect his cold was why they were tested but I don't know. O2 levels were bad so they put him on oxygen and kept him in the hospital for about a week. Never entubated. His oxygen level was fine but only if they had the flow rate set pretty high. Finally sent him home with an oxygen concentrator or tank or something when they got the flow rate down. Preacher stopped by for a visit last week and said Bill looked and sounded better than he has in months. Bill died yesterday; don't know if it was covid or what.
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Just keep a candle lit in the house at all times.
That will let you know if there's a propane leak or not. :O
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Just keep a candle lit in the house at all times.
That will let you know if there's a propane leak or not. :O
Yes. :lol: If it's propane rather than natural gas you'll want to put the candle in the basement. (with NG I'm not sure that it matters)
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Yes. :lol: If it's propane rather than natural gas you'll want to put the candle in the basement. (with NG I'm not sure that it matters)
I believe methane is generally lighter than air.
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Just got this text earlier from my sister, Mario is my brother-in-law.
"Marios mom was admitted into the hospital tonight. She got the first dose of the covid vaccine last week. Tested positive for covid several days later. She was feeling sick and now she is in the hospital with covid pneumonia. His brother and sister in law tested positive after the shot and were feeling sick but have improved. Keep you posted."
She texted me a little later and said they were starting her on remdesivir.
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That's pretty nasty - - - getting vaccinated and then catching the disease before the vaccine takes effect. :-[
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The way I understand it, the vaccine isn't to keep you from catching the virus, it's to lessen the severity if/when you do catch it.
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The way I understand it, the vaccine isn't to keep you from catching the virus, it's to lessen the severity if/when you do catch it.
I keep hearing more tales of getting vaccinated then later ending up hospitalized with the disease, I wonder if the variants out there are more numerous than they are saying. Makes me think. Also makes me think I need to do some reading of journals.
bob
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The way I understand it, the vaccine isn't to keep you from catching the virus, it's to lessen the severity if/when you do catch it.
That's what I thought also.
It sounds like they were given the two step version which is the mRNA "vaccine".
The J&J vaccine is actually a true inoculation from what I gather.
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Update, as soon as she was admitted they put her on O2, not a ventilator, she started doing better within a couple hours.
As mentioned previously they also started her on Remdesivir right away.
She was moved to the ICU last night but is in good spirits this morning, still has difficulty in breathing.
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The way I understand it, the vaccine isn't to keep you from catching the virus, it's to lessen the severity if/when you do catch it.
That's not really what I've heard. The Johnson & Johnson is said to be that way; 60% effective in keeping you from getting sick, but much higher per cent in keeping you from getting very sick or requiring hospitalization.
But what do I know? I'm not a doctor, or even played one in a TV show. [tinfoil]
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Lost my mother in law from previous marriage of 25 years on Sunday. Her husband had symptoms in Dec, tested negative, and she had no symptoms but tested positive. 2 weeks later she developed breathing issues. Apparently she had Interstitial Lung Disease that was lying unknown in her lungs and it progressed due to Covid.
She went to hospital with labored breathing, tested negative in Jan and was released. Again all was fine for a couple of days and didn't have any breathing issues until 2 weeks ago when she started labored breathing again. This time they admitted her and she never recovered. Kidney failure and lung issues eventually wore her out. She was 78 years old
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My condolences LJ, so sad to hear of your loss.
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Update, as soon as she was admitted they put her on O2, not a ventilator, she started doing better within a couple hours.
As mentioned previously they also started her on Remdesivir right away.
She was moved to the ICU last night but is in good spirits this morning, still has difficulty in breathing.
She is doing well enough that they moved her out of the ICU yesterday.
My sister was already begging our parents not to get the vaccine and now she is apoplectic.
My mother was a no go without any input from anyone, my father and his wife have been on the fence as to getting it or not.
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She is doing well enough that they moved her out of the ICU yesterday.
My sister was already begging our parents not to get the vaccine and now she is apoplectic.
My mother was a no go without any input from anyone, my father and his wife have been on the fence as to getting it or not.
They kept her in the hospital for a while until her O2 levels came back up to normal.
She came home a couple days ago.
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They kept her in the hospital for a while until her O2 levels came back up to normal.
She came home a couple days ago.
Nice to hear something positive, glad your sister has made the turn.
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Nice to hear something positive, glad your sister has made the turn.
It's my sisters mother in law, thanks though!
I'm not getting clear answers as to whether this was an adverse reaction to the vaccine or if she had contracted nearly simultaneous with getting the vaccine. Everyone is saying reaction to vaccine.
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Just heard that a former high school classmate of mine passed due to COVID. It seems that his father may also have passed due to COVID last month.
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Wife is having a terrible side effect from the Kung flu...all cooking smells like *expletive deleted*it to her. Like literal *expletive deleted*it. This started up about three weeks ago.
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Wife is having a terrible side effect from the Kung flu...all cooking smells like *expletive deleted*it to her. Like literal *expletive deleted*it. This started up about three weeks ago.
Oddly, the smell of feces is one of the few smells I have not regained.
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One of the managers for my company is in the hospital. Got put on a ventilator over the weekend. He is holding on so I hope he recovers. A coworkers father spent 6 days in the ventilator before getting better.