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Title: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2020, 04:38:06 AM
Looks pleasant to shoot.  :laugh:

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2020/1/30/review-magnum-research-thunder-snub-bfr-in-45-70-govt/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=insider&utm_campaign=0520

(https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3563107/006_bfr3in_shop_ready_01s.jpg?preset=list720)


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 26, 2020, 05:49:02 AM
When you absolutely, positively want to blind everyone in the room (and also cover everything in sooty little bits of unburned propellant).

Brad


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 26, 2020, 05:51:23 AM
When you absolutely, positively want to blind everyone in the room (and also cover everything in sooty little bits of unburned propellant).

Brad
At some point you are transitioning from killing a big animal with a big bullet to scaring a big animal with a huge muzzle blast and flash.  

I didn't see any mention of velocities with that snubby.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Pb on May 26, 2020, 05:52:47 AM
 :O


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 26, 2020, 05:55:37 AM

I didn't see any mention of velocities with that snubby.


You could probably throw the thing faster than the bullet will exit the bore.

Brad


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Ben on May 26, 2020, 05:56:52 AM
It actually seems to be a good deal larger than my first image would indicate. Looks to be about the overall size of my 5" barrel .45 Vaquero.

(https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3563094/013_bfr3in_holster_01s.jpg)


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 26, 2020, 05:59:44 AM
It's just a BFR with a contoured cylinder and a foot less barrel.

Brad


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: fistful on May 26, 2020, 06:10:25 AM
"Thunder snub"  :laugh:


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: bedlamite on May 26, 2020, 06:11:20 AM
At some point you are transitioning from killing a big animal with a big bullet to scaring a big animal with a huge muzzle blast and flash.  

I didn't see any mention of velocities with that snubby.

Look about 2/3 of the way down the article:

(https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3563086/021_bfr3in_results_01s.jpg)


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: charby on May 26, 2020, 07:11:26 AM
Look about 2/3 of the way down the article:

(https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3563086/021_bfr3in_results_01s.jpg)

No thank you, the .454 Casull slaps hard enough. Still have your big bore?



Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: bedlamite on May 26, 2020, 07:36:42 AM
No thank you, the .454 Casull slaps hard enough. Still have your big bore?



624 is gone, but I still have the Redhawk and SBH


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: BobR on May 26, 2020, 07:39:32 AM
I like it!!!

It would make for a very interesting caliber matching set, a Sharps and the pistol. Maybe go modern and get a Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70 to go with it.

bob


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: dogmush on May 26, 2020, 07:49:44 AM
Energy looks kinda .44 mag-ish, but with a cooler name.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: charby on May 26, 2020, 08:01:40 AM
Energy looks kinda .44 mag-ish, but with a cooler name.

What sort of .44 mag loads are you creating?


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: HankB on May 26, 2020, 08:26:49 AM
I'll pass on this - I just don't like the grips on a single action revolver when it comes to something with heavy recoil; I manage much better with the grips on a DA revolver, be it S&W or Ruger.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: dogmush on May 26, 2020, 08:32:21 AM
What sort of .44 mag loads are you creating?

None, I only have 1 .44 and don't shoot it enough to reload for it.  Just went to Wiki and looked. ME ranged from 741 ft-lb (240gr@1180FPS) to 1533 ft-lb (340gr@1425FPS) with the middle ground loads being 1100-1200ish ft-lbs.  We have now exhausted my knowledge of .44 mag ballistics.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 26, 2020, 11:27:55 AM
Look about 2/3 of the way down the article:

(https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3563086/021_bfr3in_results_01s.jpg)
That is better than I thought it would be.  I guess the barrel is not as short as some of the snubby revolvers.  Maybe it looks worse in comparison to the length of the cartridge. 


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: WLJ on May 26, 2020, 05:10:02 PM
Bond Arms at one time made a 45-70 derringer. Remember seeing a youtube video where each shot was followed by a bunch of obscenities


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Cliffh on May 26, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
Is it an optical illusion or is the cylinder longer than the barrel?


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: French G. on May 27, 2020, 03:58:55 AM
How much blue dot can we shove in the case? Always seemed to be the go to powder with 10mm if you wanted to set the indoor range on fire.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Fly320s on May 27, 2020, 04:22:57 AM
Is it an optical illusion or is the cylinder longer than the barrel?

Looks like it.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on May 27, 2020, 01:34:46 PM
My favorite line from the article:

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And I went into this knowing that the levels of recoil with heavy loads would be memorable, if not downright 'educational.'


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Jim147 on May 27, 2020, 01:42:22 PM
Watched a gun show before switching over to launch coverage this afternoon. They had the short barrel 1895 in .45-70 in the dark series it would be a great pair.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: zxcvbob on May 27, 2020, 01:47:47 PM
Is it an optical illusion or is the cylinder longer than the barrel?

They are about the same; not sure which is longer.  Part of it might be an optical illusion because where the barrel where is screwed into the frame it's obscured but it still counts.  .45-70 brass is just over 2 inches long, plus the bullet.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: WLJ on May 27, 2020, 01:55:25 PM
Watched a gun show before switching over to launch coverage this afternoon. They had the short barrel 1895 in .45-70 in the dark series it would be a great pair.

One of my favorite guns to shoot is my Marlin 1895 Guide gun in 45-70. It's never fails to put a smile on my face with Buffalo Bore or Grizzly loads. My wallet is crying though at $3-4 blown with every pull of the trigger with those loads.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: Jim147 on May 27, 2020, 05:33:20 PM
I cast and roll my own so I could shoot it a little cheaper. I just don't have the cash to get one.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: 230RN on May 28, 2020, 07:44:00 AM
Bond Arms at one time made a 45-70 derringer. Remember seeing a youtube video where each shot was followed by a bunch of obscenities

As an unnamed amateur ballistician once remarked, "If the gun weighed the same as the bullet, it would be just as deadly to the shooter as the shootee."

I guess we're getting closer to that nowadays.

I'm not signing this one so I can remain unnamed.


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: WLJ on May 28, 2020, 07:49:01 AM
I cast and roll my own so I could shoot it a little cheaper. I just don't have the cash to get one.

If anything gets me back into reloading it's 45-70.
In the meantime a gun shop here was closing a while back and I bought most of their left over 45-70 ammo stock real cheap. Got enough to last awhile plus I'll have a bunch of brass for if or when I get back into reloading. 


Title: Re: Howz About a .45-70 Snubby?
Post by: WLJ on May 28, 2020, 08:12:10 AM
If you do reload 45-70 be aware that Hornady Leverevolution brass is cut a touch shorter than normal. Due to the flex tip bullet they use they had to shorten the brass to keep the overall length the same as normal 45-70 ammo.


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