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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: just Warren on August 14, 2020, 01:27:31 AM
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I sure hadn't. (https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/12/black-man-shoots-5-year-old-in-the-head-point-blank-but-the-race-obsessed-media-dont-care/)
We know all about George Floyd and Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin because the media kept/keeps them in the news constantly.
But hardly anything about this innocent five year old.
I wonder why.
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1. Yes I had, about the beginning of the week it rolled throughmy news feed.
2. Other then the "Oh that's sad" factor, why would this be national news? It's a tragic murder, but they know who did it, they arrested him, and he's been charged. As far as I know there is not even a speculated motive. What story would you like to see on it?
Personally, my Facebook feed seems like the "alternative" media has latched on to this with a racial narrative (they don't care about white kids) that isn't evident. It's not like you know the name of the black girl killed at the protest in Atlanta either.
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2. Other then the "Oh that's sad" factor, why would this be national news? It's a tragic murder, but they know who did it, they arrested him, and he's been charged. As far as I know there is not even a speculated motive. What story would you like to see on it?
Personally, my Facebook feed seems like the "alternative" media has latched on to this with a racial narrative (they don't care about white kids) that isn't evident. It's not like you know the name of the black girl killed at the protest in Atlanta either.
The broad daylight, cold-blooded murder of a 5 year old isn't worthy of national news?
This wasn't like the ones in Atlanta, or Chicago, or the like. The child wasn't accidentally shot by gang-bangers trying to shoot other gang-bangers.1 (Which are also very bad, I should note, but a much more common crime, sadly.)
This was cold-blooded execution style murder of a FIVE YEAR OLD. In front of multiple witnesses in broad daylight. That seems to have a significant news "hook."
But because the... typesdeletes... typesdeletes... murderer was black and his victim white, it's going to be completely embargoed by the national media because it not only doesn't support their narrative, it lends support to a "wrong" narrative.
1: Yes, I know Atlanta was BLM shooting people for having the audacity to.... drive near their roadblock. It was still a matter of murdering the children while shooting at the adults. Which, from the mouths of BLM supporters themselves I have learned isn't all that bad because it wasn't like they were TRYING to kill the little girl.
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Yup, saw the name & photo yesterday and today on social media and now again here. Sad stuff.
I wonder if his family is onboard with using his death to push a narrative.
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I'm a little surprised we haven't seen a full on press for gun control coming from the usual suspects during all this crap. Because of this event and other recent shootings actually related to the actions of the insurrectionists.
As for Cannon Hinnant. This is a terrible tragedy, of that there is no debate. However I do not think there is any meaningful racial component to the killing. My opinion is that the killer is "batshit crazy" and the color of his or his victims skin is irrelevant.
The relevant issues that will likely not come to light or be discussed is the mental status of the killer, his use, if any, of illegal drugs, his use, if any, of prescribed psychotropic medications and his criminal record, if any, and his status as to being legally ably to posses a firearm.
Trying to make this one into a race based murder doesn't work for me.
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I'm a little surprised we haven't seen a full on press for gun control coming from the usual suspects during all this crap. Because of this event and other recent shootings actually related to the actions of the insurrectionists.
As for Cannon Hinnant. This is a terrible tragedy, of that there is no debate. However I do not think there is any meaningful racial component to the killing. My opinion is that the killer is "batshit crazy" and the color of his or his victims skin is irrelevant.
The relevant issues that will likely not come to light or be discussed is the mental status of the killer, his use, if any, of illegal drugs, his use, if any, of prescribed psychotropic medications and his criminal record, if any, and his status as to being legally ably to posses a firearm.
Trying to make this one into a race based murder doesn't work for me.
Yeah, I would need more info. From the story, it appears there was a relationship between the boy's father and the murderer, given the murderer was at the boy's home in the days before the murder. This might just be one of those crazy neighbor things.
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The broad daylight, cold-blooded murder of a 5 year old isn't worthy of national news?
Not really? I mean, sure I can see the story getting a run across the wires, but sustained news coverage? Sadly, children are murdered daily, and it's not national news. It's tragic, and but it doesn't hit everyone's front page.
I also don't see a racial motive here, either for the murder, or the coverage. My money is on drugs, crazy, or drugged and crazy for the murder. Again, it's tragic, and my heart goes out to the boy's family. That had to have been horrible for his father. But I don't see a conspiracy here.
I would also suspect that his family neither needs nor wants his death and it's coverage dragged through the Matt Walsh hype machine.
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Not really? I mean, sure I can see the story getting a run across the wires, but sustained news coverage? Sadly, children are murdered daily, and it's not national news. It's tragic, and but it doesn't hit everyone's front page.
I also don't see a racial motive here, either for the murder, or the coverage. My money is on drugs, crazy, or drugged and crazy for the murder. Again, it's tragic, and my heart goes out to the boy's family. That had to have been horrible for his father. But I don't see a conspiracy here.
I would also suspect that his family neither needs nor wants his death and it's coverage dragged through the Matt Walsh hype machine.
You don't think the constant racist drumbeat that white people are evil and deserve to be killed doesn't affect crazy people?
Yes, he is likely crazy, but that doesn't mean he didn't think this little white boy deserved to die simply for being white.
FURTHER, do you think the left would have done the LEAST bit of circumspection and mitigation of motive had the races been reversed?
This is a perfect example of their rank hypocrisy and it's worth pointing out how evil our enemies are that they think a murdered 5 year old is sad, but a worthy price to pay for getting what they want.
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that doesn't mean he didn't think this little white boy deserved to die simply for being white.
Did you just pull this theory out of your backside, or is it actually based on something?
it's worth pointing out how evil our enemies are that they think a murdered 5 year old is sad, but a worthy price to pay for getting what they want.
huh? Who is "the enemy" in this and how do you know they think that? I'm not sure how any blame can be spread past the guy who pulled the trigger.
I would also suspect that his family neither needs nor wants his death and it's coverage dragged through the Matt Walsh hype machine.
Agreed. Never waste a tragedy doesn't just apply to the left.
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Did you just pull this theory out of your backside, or is it actually based on something?huh? (1)
Who is "the enemy" in this and how do you know they think that? I'm not sure how any blame can be spread past the guy who pulled the trigger.(2)
Agreed. Never waste a tragedy doesn't just apply to the left. (3)
(1) I've got far more backing for this theory than for most "hate crimes" in that a crime actually occurred.
(2) The enemy is the people who want me and people like me dead. (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-24934979) And who have said so repeatedly. (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/-some-white-people-may-have-to-die-uga-teaching-assistant-under-fire-for-facebook-post/908340952/) That seems to me to be a good definition of "the enemy (https://www.foxnews.com/us/drexel-professor-draws-ire-after-posting-white-genocide-tweet-on-christmas)."
(3) In this case, it's an opportunity for highlighting the absolute hypocrisy of the left. "If it bleeds, it leads" is not the cause of the sensationalism but rather "All the news that fits, we print" is the modus operandi. This is clearly a case that could inflame racial tensions, but UNLIKE ones that would make black people angry at white people, this one would operate in reverse. Thus, the media had ensured that there will be no mention of a five year old murdered in cold blood with a gun to his head on a public street.
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This case would only "inflate racial tensions" in folks who are already racist, and looking for a race card to play.
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So how many know LeGend Taliferro's name?
How much press and calls for gun control after the largest mass shooting of the year so far?
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I think the left is being quiet on gun control in large part because they don't want it to be a front and center issue during the election cycle.
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So how many know LeGend Taliferro's name?
How much press and calls for gun control after the largest mass shooting of the year so far?
I know his too. Because those children being murdered simply for being in the way of gang violence matter, too. I am angry about ALL the murders of children. My point is that the left seems to have a very selective outrage about murders and this case simply illustrates it even better.
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I know his too. Because those children being murdered simply for being in the way of gang violence matter, too. I am angry about ALL the murders of children. My point is that the left seems to have a very selective outrage about murders and this case simply illustrates it even better.
I mean, if it’s not a black felon with a mile long rap sheet that got yeeted by the popo it ain’t newsworthy nor riot worthy ya know
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(3) In this case, it's an opportunity for highlighting the absolute hypocrisy of the left.
Yes, how could I have missed what an opportunity this is?
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/832977f/2147483647/resize/400x/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fs3-origin-images.politico.com%2Fnews%2F110601_emanuel_thumbsup_reuters_328.jpg)
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Yes, how could I have missed what an opportunity this is?
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I will not be cowed into disarming before people who want me dead, so mock all you like.
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Yup, saw the name & photo yesterday and today on social media and now again here. Sad stuff.
I wonder if his family is onboard with using his death to push a narrative.
:rofl:
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The point is that if this was racially reversed we would have heard all manner of things about the killer's background and his ties to various unsavory groups, his weird Facebook and other SM postings.
They'd be all over this to condemn both whites and gun owners.
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Given how much extreme rhetoric is floating around these days on black/white racial issues, I can easily see a crazy/unhinged person taking that idea and running with it. Crazy/unhinged people don't always think logically.
That said, we really don't know enough information.
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The point is that if this was racially reversed we would have heard all manner of things about the killer's background and his ties to various unsavory groups, his weird Facebook and other SM postings.
They'd be all over this to condemn both whites and gun owners.
Had the batshit crazy shooter been white and the victim black I suspect much of the neighborhood would be little more than a smoking pile of rubble.
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The point is that if this was racially reversed we would have heard all manner of things about the killer's background and his ties to various unsavory groups, his weird Facebook and other SM postings.
They'd be all over this to condemn both whites and gun owners.
We actually keep track of things like that, so lets inject some numbers in here.
According to the 2018 US Criminal Victimization report from 2018 (The most recent published) There were 563,940 "violent incidents" where the victim was black. Of those in 10.6% of them, the offender was white. So 5977 Blacks victimized by whites. The 2018 total Violent crime rate was 382.9/100,000 and murder was 5.3/100,000 so murder is 1.38% of all violent crime. To make life simple we are going to call that 1.5% and assume that it holds +/- steady across races.
If we do that we can assume that 1.5% of those 5977 victimizations by racist whites were murder. which is [abacus sounds] 89.6. Call it 90 ish. one every 3 or 4 days. The media has the chance to push this narritive that you think they are twice a week. Go ahead and name all 90 black people killed by whites in 2018 from the voluminous news coverage.
Sure, this one is more tragic because the victim is a kid, and it appears to be one of those truly random attacks that hit american's psyches pretty hard because there's no way to reassure yourself you aren't next.
But there's no evidence of a racial bias either in the reporting or racial motive (yet) in the attack. Trying to make one is, ironically, actually doing what you are accusing the news of doing.
If you have evidence beyond vague "I know it would be different if the races were reversed" by all means, share it as I'd like to see it. But I have 90(ish) deaths per year that say the news media doesn't run with, and neighborhoods don't burn, for every incident of white on black murder.
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All that above said,
I have started seeing some truly despicable posts scrolling by on FB about the kid deserving it because he is white, so there are at least some extremists on the other side as well. It seems like some folks are going to make things about race no matter what.
It does warm my black little heart that those folks on my feed are there because they've been doxxed. Not at all against doxxing someone that posts a 5YO deserves to die just for being white.
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Can we break that 90 number down?
How many of these killings were criminal-on-criminal? Because no one cares about that.
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We actually keep track of things like that, so lets inject some numbers in here.
According to the 2018 US Criminal Victimization report from 2018 (The most recent published) There were 563,940 "violent incidents" where the victim was black. Of those in 10.6% of them, the offender was white. So 5977 Blacks victimized by whites. The 2018 total Violent crime rate was 382.9/100,000 and murder was 5.3/100,000 so murder is 1.38% of all violent crime. To make life simple we are going to call that 1.5% and assume that it holds +/- steady across races.
If we do that we can assume that 1.5% of those 5977 victimizations by racist whites were murder. which is [abacus sounds] 89.6. Call it 90 ish. one every 3 or 4 days. The media has the chance to push this narritive that you think they are twice a week. Go ahead and name all 90 black people killed by whites in 2018 from the voluminous news coverage.
Sure, this one is more tragic because the victim is a kid, and it appears to be one of those truly random attacks that hit american's psyches pretty hard because there's no way to reassure yourself you aren't next.
But there's no evidence of a racial bias either in the reporting or racial motive (yet) in the attack. Trying to make one is, ironically, actually doing what you are accusing the news of doing.
If you have evidence beyond vague "I know it would be different if the races were reversed" by all means, share it as I'd like to see it. But I have 90(ish) deaths per year that say the news media doesn't run with, and neighborhoods don't burn, for every incident of white on black murder.
Your analysis is flawed. 90 deaths per year and I will put money on it being ZERO deaths of children.1
You honestly believe that if some white tweaker walked up to a black child and murdered him in cold blood, the news wouldn't plaster it all over the country?
.... Were you in a coma for the Zimmerman trial? Because that's what they claimed happened. Imagine what it would have been like if it were actually true.
1: Unless you count Hispanic gang bangers in that number. I will bet that at least one child is murdered by Hispanic gangs in crossfire with black gangs every few years given the proximity of such gangs in most urban areas.
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Also, in addition to to criminal-on-criminal violence, we should know how many killings were the result of domestic violence and how many were robberies of innocent folk turned lethal.
The last two, like the first would not have the racial angle so would not interest propagandists.
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A few paragraphs down, there is a partial list of "white lives" no one cares about.
http://jewishworldreview.com/0620/hughes061620.php3
I agree with those who see something askew with the coverage of this story, compared to how other stories are covered. I'm just not sure you understand why you see something wrong.
Should this be a national news story? Maybe. It's not the first time a local murder story was so heart-rending or strange or tragic or frightening that the whole country wanted to know about it. Harambe got more press than this kid. His story has just as much to recommend it as the George Floyd story. Except for not being filmed, of course.
Is there any evidence Hinnant's killing was racially-motivated? No, but we could say the same for George Floyd.
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Very few murders should be national news. They should be top-story local news. If murders become too commonplace to lead (or is it lede?) the local news, then that's newsworthy.
Over-reporting of murders that do support a narrative is a problem.
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my right friends and left friends both have really different takes.
poor kid :'(
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Very few murders should be national news. They should be top-story local news. If murders become too commonplace to lead (or is it lede?) the local news, then that's newsworthy.
Over-reporting of murders that do support a narrative is a problem.
And under-reporting murders that counter such...
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A Breonna Taylor billboard getting defaced with red paint is getting far more coverage here as in big banner headlines vs a towards the bottom barely noticeable little box