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Title: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: MillCreek on September 07, 2020, 06:50:04 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/19/magazine/boogaloo.html?fbclid=IwAR10XI5tQj1oFtAZdznKLAMKngOzvDOFaGSqrenQ0Mqg0rsNPza4h_cxl1o

I learned some things from this article.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: fistful on September 07, 2020, 07:32:44 AM
I like how they don't allow the boogaloo-ers to actually be opposed to racism. They just "claim to be."  ;/


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Ben on September 07, 2020, 07:44:28 AM
Couple of things from the article:

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Amid the hysteria about nonexistent vans full of Antifa supersoldiers, actual heavily armed militia groups around the country stepped in to provide what they saw as protection to communities, often with the encouragement of lawmakers.

I'm not sure anyone but the MSM would refer to antifa as "supersoldiers". Most all the right wing oriented stuff I read refers to them as rioters, looters and other rabble. I haven't seen anything on the right that acknowledges any real training. To not make a blanket statement, I'm sure there is a small percentage that has taken some training, maybe even the same classes many of us take. But I think that's a very small percentage. Most of these antifa seem to have learned their "supersoldier" techniques from Grand Theft Auto.


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In Idaho, in the first week of June, armed men and women lined Coeur d’Alene, standing guard outside restaurants and slugging liquor at crowded bars. Some wore Hawaiian shirts. Most wore tactical gear. Farther north, in Sandpoint, a county commissioner warned on Facebook of a looming threat. “We are hearing from other sources of protesters coming to the county courthouse,” he wrote. “It would be great to have some of the Bonner County folks come out to counter anything that might get out of hand.” A small group of white, teenage Black Lives Matter protesters found themselves being followed and outnumbered by armed men in full tactical gear.

This was reported on quite differently at the state level - even (with the exception of the commie Idaho Statesman) by somewhat left leaning news sources. BLM people were actually thanking armed local citizens that were walking the streets in CDA.



Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Ron on September 07, 2020, 08:07:26 AM
Bummer, it wants me to log in or subscribe.

Anyone here actually know or run across a boogaloo guy?

I thought it was only a meme.





Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: WLJ on September 07, 2020, 08:13:10 AM
Bummer, it wants me to log in or subscribe.

Anyone here actually know or run across a boogaloo guy?

I thought it was only a meme.



Only place I've seen "real" ones are on the live feeds burning, looting, spray painting buildings, smashing windows, harnessing and murdering peaceful for justice protesters.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Ben on September 07, 2020, 08:17:19 AM
Bummer, it wants me to log in or subscribe.

Anyone here actually know or run across a boogaloo guy?

I thought it was only a meme.


I didn't have an issues, it popped right up for me. I just scrolled up and the "sign up" thing disappeared.

Also, the reader comments are most telling regarding the urban/rural divide. What these people are calling militias, I have been calling ordinary neighbors for the last year and a half.

Also, the body armor I ordered is getting delivered this week. I need to check my stored clothing box to see if I still have a Hawaiian shirt in there.  =D


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: bedlamite on September 07, 2020, 08:28:40 AM

I'm not sure anyone but the MSM would refer to antifa as "supersoldiers".


That's how they do propaganda. Change the oppositions argumens in subtle but significant ways, then claim it's false.

Fact: There are no vans full of Antifa Supersoldiers

Also fact: there are busses full of BLM/Antifa LARPers



Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Ron on September 07, 2020, 08:43:50 AM
That's how they do propaganda. Change the oppositions argumens in subtle but significant ways, then claim it's false.

Fact: There are no vans full of Antifa Supersoldiers

Also fact: there are busses full of BLM/Antifa LARPers

"supersoldiers" in order to mock those pointing out that antifa is using actual surveillance and communication tactics.

These people are evil.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: freakazoid on September 07, 2020, 05:56:44 PM
Bummer, it wants me to log in or subscribe.

Anyone here actually know or run across a boogaloo guy?

I thought it was only a meme.


It is a meme. I don't know if the MSM actually thinks it's a real thing but they seem to like to apply the word randomly to whatever they see fit.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: MillCreek on September 07, 2020, 06:48:49 PM
Since the PNW is a hotbed of people espousing these beliefs, I have read a great deal on this topic.  The boogaloo and its adherents are very real and I have encountered many such people on forums just like this.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: fistful on September 07, 2020, 08:58:58 PM
Since the PNW is a hotbed of people espousing these beliefs, I have read a great deal on this topic.  The boogaloo and its adherents are very real and I have encountered many such people on forums just like this.

"We got both kinds o' crazy - boogaloo AND antifer!"

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ObWnwOy0oyU/hqdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Ron on September 08, 2020, 03:47:39 AM
Since the PNW is a hotbed of people espousing these beliefs, I have read a great deal on this topic.  The boogaloo and its adherents are very real and I have encountered many such people on forums just like this.

Probably just like the KKK and militia's, mostly Feds larping, catching a bunch of dysfunctional disaffected nobodies making plans they would never try and pull off without their undercover Fed friends encouragement and "help".

What kind of forums do you hang out on? You should be careful where you hang out!


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Silver Bullet on September 08, 2020, 08:27:05 AM
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A small group of white, teenage Black Lives Matter protesters found themselves being followed and outnumbered by armed men in full tactical gear.

Since they're following them anyway, they should follow the BLM back to their cars/houses and photograph license plates/addresses.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: dogmush on September 08, 2020, 08:42:11 AM
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A small group of white, teenage Black Lives Matter protesters found themselves being followed and outnumbered by armed men in full tactical gear.
Since they're following them anyway, they should follow the BLM back to their cars/houses and photograph license plates/addresses.

They say that like being surrounded, outnumbered and followed by folks who look like they might commit violence is worrisome, or makes them fear for their safety or something.....


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: WLJ on September 11, 2020, 05:37:39 AM


Justice Department charges 2 with plotting to support Hamas, shoot cops in Minnesota
https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-boogaloo-bois-attempted-to-join-forces-with-hamas-to-overthrow-us-government-prosecutors
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Two American citizens with ties to a far-right extremist group have been charged with trying to support Hamas, a Palestinian terrorist group, and plotting violent attacks in Minnesota.

Michael Robert Solomon, 30 and Benjamin Ryan Teeter, 22, were taken into custody Thursday night in Minneapolis, the Justice Department said.

Prosecutors say the men are members of a group called the Boogaloo Bois, a faction of a subgroup known as the Boojahideen. They were allegedly conspiring with Hamas to sow discord amid racial justice protests in Minnesota by shooting cops, blowing up a courthouse and killing politicians.

Boogaloo's Arrested for allegedly supporting Hamas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvlNmxeRxcM


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Ron on September 11, 2020, 05:46:32 AM
The Boogaloo lives!  :laugh:


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 11, 2020, 05:58:03 AM
Boogaloo Lives Matter!


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: RocketMan on September 11, 2020, 06:22:57 AM
Boogaloo supporting Hamas?  That doesn't smell quite right.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: bedlamite on September 11, 2020, 06:27:19 AM
Of course, they are members of an internet meme. That makes perfect sense now.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: MechAg94 on September 11, 2020, 06:57:17 AM
I wonder what they were planning a few years back when the zombie apocalypse was all the rage?


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: kgbsquirrel on September 11, 2020, 07:34:01 AM
Boogaloo supporting Hamas?  That doesn't smell quite right.

That's because it is total bullshit.  A huge portion of Big Igloo supporters are veterans who were just fighting hamas in the sandbox.  Yeah that sounds poorly contrived.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: fistful on September 11, 2020, 02:20:40 PM
"racial justice"  :rofl:


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: French G. on September 11, 2020, 06:37:25 PM
I'm just going to two jobs and trying to enjoy my garden. The cosplayers on both sides can have it. When the world forces me to finally get my big igloo cooler out of storage I imagine a few other grumpy old men will be feeling the same way.  [popcorn]


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Boomhauer on September 12, 2020, 01:37:33 AM
That's because it is total bullshit.  A huge portion of Big Igloo supporters are veterans who were just fighting hamas in the sandbox.  Yeah that sounds poorly contrived.

This. I’ve seen a few Boog pages In the past, and I have seen purely libertarian/anti communist content.

The seizure of CNN’s branding though...that was masterful😂


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: gunsmith on September 14, 2020, 11:58:08 PM
I recall hearing a long time ago that Hawaiin shirts were good for concealment of full size pistols .

 I've seen pictures of guys in those shirts at counter protest but am unaware of any members


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: TommyGunn on September 15, 2020, 06:09:52 AM
I recall hearing a long time ago that Hawaiin shirts were good for concealment of full size pistols .

 I've seen pictures of guys in those shirts at counter protest but am unaware of any members

It worked for Thomas Magnum.....  [popcorn] [tinfoil]  =D


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: Big Hairy Bee on September 15, 2020, 10:43:49 AM
It worked for Thomas Magnum.....  [popcorn] [tinfoil]  =D

It helps conceal my full size gut


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: French G. on September 15, 2020, 08:45:27 PM
I recall hearing a long time ago that Hawaiin shirts were good for concealment of full size pistols .

 I've seen pictures of guys in those shirts at counter protest but am unaware of any members

I took to wearing cuban type shirts and more subdued hawaian shirts twenty years ago just because they are the perfect concealment shirt.

Maybe we should start a rumor that the boog boys all like photog vests so we can get the 80 year old IDPA guys wound up.


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: HeroHog on September 15, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
Wore loud Hawaiian style shirts a lot in my years as a Blues/Funk/Classic Rock drummer and FM Classic Rock DJ.
(http://herohog.com/images/music/bootsie/bootsiedanielsband01.jpg)
(http://herohog.com/images/Faces/DrSpeed.jpg)
(http://herohog.com/images/Faces/speedym.jpg)


Title: Re: NYT: Inside the boogaloo
Post by: 230RN on September 16, 2020, 03:15:46 AM
I recall hearing a long time ago that Hawaiin shirts were good for concealment of full size pistols .

 I've seen pictures of guys in those shirts at counter protest but am unaware of any members

That could've been me who mentioned it.. I recall remarking about it more than ten years ago.  I'm not claiming any originality, but I think I brought it up to the old packing dot org website.  I was only referencing the idea I had picked up from someone else.

I also mentioned it here, once, while I was still working in Denver (yich).  I had seen a couple of Hawaiian shirts on the streets and commented  on it.  I also mentioned it here very recently:

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=62909.msg1270908#msg1270908