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Title: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: p12 on October 13, 2020, 11:18:46 PM
And a cardiologist appointment too!!

Jogger comes across a mountain lion with young. Is stalked / chased for 6 minutes.

I find this really intense.  At one point he realized he should have brought his gun.

Damn straight skippy.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL7pMX3Re2A&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL7pMX3Re2A&feature=share)

Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: Big Hairy Bee on October 14, 2020, 12:03:51 AM
Damn lucky dude--had she gotten him imagine the views!
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: Ron on October 14, 2020, 09:21:02 AM
My first thought was pick up some big rocks.

I read in an article that crouching down around big cats is seen as an act of aggression, so I guess the time to grab a rock is when it's as far away as possible. 

This would be a case where if he had a firearm, a warning shot in the dirt in front of her might have shortened the length of the interaction.

Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: grampster on October 14, 2020, 09:43:21 AM
Jogging where things live who will eat you is never a good idea. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: AJ Dual on October 14, 2020, 09:45:51 AM
It was said that in the beginning of the video that a cub was visible darting into the woods, and the cougar was just possibly driving the jogger away.

But yeah, I'd have been chucking rocks a lot sooner myself as well.
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: charby on October 14, 2020, 09:51:21 AM
My first thought was pick up some big rocks.

I read in an article that crouching down around big cats is seen as an act of aggression, so I guess the time to grab a rock is when it's as far away as possible. 

This would be a case where if he had a firearm, a warning shot in the dirt in front of her might have shortened the length of the interaction.



I would of started backing up as soon as I saw the kittens, then rocks.
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: Ben on October 14, 2020, 09:56:13 AM
My first thought was pick up some big rocks.

I read in an article that crouching down around big cats is seen as an act of aggression, so I guess the time to grab a rock is when it's as far away as possible. 

I thought about that too. Picking up a rock would have likely led to a charge that didn't stop.

I had a similar incident with a mama black bear a few decades ago. I was backpacking by myself in Sequoia and there were tons of bears out at that time. Rocks and shouting scared them all off as they usually do. Except for one. I saw a bear sitting maybe 30' off the trail and it wouldn't go no matter what I did. I (maybe stupidly) decided to just continue on figuring the bear would sit there. It (she) didn't. She charged me and you've never seen a guy run backwards so fast in your life. She stopped after maybe 50' and just started doing aggressive display at that point. Which was also the point where I finally caught that at the opposite side of the trail, up in a tree, were two cubs. I had walked right between her and them.

Because of the terrain, there were no easy ways around them other than back where I was coming from. I ended up scootching my ass down a semi-cliff to the creek below, and wading for a good 1/4 mile until I found a place to climb back on to the trail.
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: MechAg94 on October 14, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
Yeah, approaching baby animals in the wild is not safe.  Then again, maybe it didn't like being called a kitty cat.  It sure seemed to follow up a fair distance.  

I was wondering how hard it would be to carry a walking stick jogging.  Something to help keep it out of claw range.  A gun would be easier to carry.  Maybe a big knife also.
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: MechAg94 on October 14, 2020, 10:13:42 AM
At some point, would he have gotten scared enough to put away the phone?
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: Ben on October 14, 2020, 10:51:37 AM
I was wondering how hard it would be to carry a walking stick jogging.  Something to help keep it out of claw range.  A gun would be easier to carry.  Maybe a big knife also.


Carrying a walking stick while running would be incredibly burdensome. A knife might be better than bare hands, but I think the old saw, "There's no winners in a knife fight" doubly applies when dealing with a mountain lion (or even a cougar).

The guy mentions that he wishes he had his gun. That would certainly have been the best option.
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: p12 on October 14, 2020, 05:27:14 PM
Would bear spray deter a big cat?
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: MillCreek on October 14, 2020, 05:34:05 PM
Could I distract a cougar with the laser sight on my M17?  Would it chase the green dot?
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: charby on October 14, 2020, 05:49:43 PM
Would bear spray deter a big cat?

Yes
Title: Re: Jogger needs a new pair of drawers
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 14, 2020, 06:33:37 PM
Would bear spray deter a big cat?

It might shoot you.