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 31 
 on: Today at 07:54:08 AM 
Started by zahc - Last post by WLJ
How long before panicky people start shooting people? I fear it may just take a little nudge with some people which will fuel a stronger dem and rino push for gun confiscation  

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A group of armed vigilantes cut down a tree and dragged it across a manĺs driveway in Maine to force him to quarantine in his home amid fears he could be infected with the coronavirus, officials said.

A man residing on Cripple Creek Road in Vinalhaven, an island off the coast of Maine, called authorities around 3:35 p.m. Friday to report a group of people with guns had cut down a large tree and dragged it in front of his driveway, blocking access to the main road.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/maine-coronavirus-armed-vigilantes-chop-down-tree-block-driveway-force-neighbor-quarantine

 32 
 on: Today at 07:27:17 AM 
Started by zahc - Last post by Ben
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-america-constitution/608665/

Funny how there is has been such little resistance to these unconstitutional power grabs.

 angry


Relevant and interesting side discussion. Replace "virus" with "X". I think there are a lot of instances where people talk big about freedom, but like so many other things (e.g., 9/11), they fold pretty quickly for "safety" and "free money".

Devil's advocate: I wonder how many of these constitutional infringements we'd see if people took some basic responsibility to voluntarily give up a few luxuries as a response to the virus. Spring Break comes to mind.

 33 
 on: Today at 07:15:23 AM 
Started by zahc - Last post by Angel Eyes
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-america-constitution/608665/

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Red and Blue America Agree That Now Is the Time to Violate the Constitution
People of both parties seem rather okay with undermining core civil liberties in order to fight the pandemic.

Funny how there is has been such little resistance to these unconstitutional power grabs.

 angry

 34 
 on: Today at 07:03:57 AM 
Started by zahc - Last post by Mike Irwin
Pennsylvania closed its liquor stores and people are pissed.

There have also been a number of articles in state papers and news sites about how the closure could affect alcoholics.

 35 
 on: Today at 07:03:29 AM 
Started by MillCreek - Last post by MillCreek
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/world/africa/france-sahel-west-africa-.html

I have been paying almost zero attention to this, but seems to be a morass for the French and the other Europeans. 

 36 
 on: Today at 06:55:21 AM 
Started by Nick1911 - Last post by Nick1911
Unless there is an input that was missed, then your math going forward is all trash.

Probabilities have no ontology, ie the model is not reality.

Not only do I hope you're wrong there is always a probability you are 😉

Sure.  Models are just predictions about the future.  There's a chance it will be totally wrong.  We can't know everything that's going to happen, just make predictions based on what has happened in the past.

I hope I'm totally wrong too.   undecided

 37 
 on: Today at 06:45:30 AM 
Started by Nick1911 - Last post by lee n. field
As a general rule, hospitals and clinics are cancelling routine appointments, surgeries and anything that does not absolutely need to be in the hospital.  This is to free up capacity for a COVID surge and to reduce the possibility of other patients and staff being infected.   Accordingly, the non-COVID patient census is dropping like a rock, and providers and staff are sitting around with nothing to do and are being furloughed.  You can't put a surgeon or a pediatrics nurse on duty taking care of ICU or COVID patients; they don't know what they are doing.  Who is being hired are ICU providers and nurses, and respiratory therapists.  Right now, if you want to do a temp gig as an ICU nurse in a NYC hospital, the temp agencies are offering you $ 5000/week.

Will pass that on to my brother, who is in fact an ICU nurse.

---edit to add---

Bro sez:

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Yup. Pretty much same here. Lots of staff furloughed. Lots of information at cross purposes, too. I got an email from the big boss, saying we should stay home if sick. I read an article in the RR Star, some bigwig at Mercy Health tells the reporter that employees with cold symptoms are to stay home. So I email my boss. Hey boss, I sez, I got a sore throat that won't go away, come into work? She sez, you don't got a fever, you come into work.


 38 
 on: Today at 06:44:24 AM 
Started by Nick1911 - Last post by Ron
It turns out, that's how math works!

There are people who feel fine today, who were infected this morning, who will die in (on average) 8 days from today.  Even with no new infections, there are people walking around today, who don't know they have covid19, are not diagnosed, and who will be dead in a week.

Unless there is an input that was missed, then your math going forward is all trash.

Probabilities have no ontology, ie the model is not reality.

Not only do I hope you're wrong there is always a probability you are 😉




 39 
 on: Today at 06:41:16 AM 
Started by Nick1911 - Last post by freakazoid
What's the daily flu death rate?  Pretty sure Corona is now the number one daily fatal communicable disease in the world.

Italy's total case count has slowed, but their death rate is still going up.

According to the CDC, in the past 10 years in the US alone anywhere from about 33 a day up to about 167, or about 1 every 44 minutes down to 1 every 9 minutes. 2011 was exceptionally low and 2018 looks like it is exceptionally high.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Perhaps for everyone's safety we should keep everyone locked up in their house to stop the spread of the flu. If not, who are we willing to sacrifice to the flu just for a little freedom?

 40 
 on: Today at 06:31:24 AM 
Started by zahc - Last post by Ben
Ha ha - Booze is an essential service in Idaho.  laugh

https://mix106radio.com/why-idahos-liquor-stores-have-been-deemed-essential-under-the-stay-home-order/

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