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 81 
 on: March 31, 2020, 02:49:12 PM 
Started by Ron - Last post by bedlamite
Went to my physical therapy session this morning. Got screened for fever at the door to the facility. When I checked in I was handed a mask.
They told me to keep the mask and reuse it on Thursday.  Face Palm!

https://youtu.be/2w9M6K9vSUM?t=1433
https://youtu.be/2UdtKssU7po?t=834

 82 
 on: March 31, 2020, 02:47:24 PM 
Started by fistful - Last post by RoadKingLarry
Quote
But, she graduated with a Bachelor's in Fine Arts, and there's only so much you can do.


So, basically, no real marketable skills... grin

 83 
 on: March 31, 2020, 02:44:31 PM 
Started by Ron - Last post by RoadKingLarry
Went to my physical therapy session this morning. Got screened for fever at the door to the facility. When I checked in I was handed a mask.
They told me to keep the mask and reuse it on Thursday.  Face Palm!

 84 
 on: March 31, 2020, 02:02:22 PM 
Started by fistful - Last post by Hawkmoon

But, she graduated with a Bachelor's in Fine Arts, and there's only so much you can do.  cheesy

WHOA!

My undergraduate degree is in Fine Arts. You watch yer mouth, Mate.

 85 
 on: March 31, 2020, 01:53:42 PM 
Started by Mike Irwin - Last post by Hawkmoon
At one time, my home state required me to appear in person to renew my carry permit. I maintain a Pennsylvania permit for when I visit a friend who lives near Philadelphia. Pennsylvania allowed me to renew by mail.

A few years, in a massive flip-flop, my home state decided to allow me to renew by mail. At about the same time, Pennsylvania began requiring renewals to be made in person. I have now gone through two renewals in PA under that system, each one involving a trip that used up all of a VERY long day. I wonder if they will waive the in person requirement or extend the renewal window.

 86 
 on: March 31, 2020, 01:33:52 PM 
Started by zahc - Last post by Nick1911
Ok Google warrior! One thing you don't live here, I do.

Is residency a requirement to discuss the political and economic conditions occurring in a particular place?  Tongue

GOP is in charge in the legislative and gov office (since 2016) and by law they have cut income and property taxes, you can research that. If you chart says the revenue is coming in is going up, where the *expletive deleted*ck is the new money coming from and why the *expletive deleted*ck are they ending or cutting programs and services if this revenue is increasing??

Now that's a good question, which hopefully cordex can find an answer to.

If income and property taxes have been cut, and spending per person is going up, where's the money coming from?  Or, has the population decreased?  Have real wages increased?

If the state is ending or cutting programs and services, but spending per person is going up, where is that money being spent?  Huh?

 87 
 on: March 31, 2020, 01:26:40 PM 
Started by Ron - Last post by Jamisjockey
Two cases were travelers, and two were "community contact" but no word on the other cases AND still no word on severity.

We've got 7 in my county.

One of my worries is that if DC or the inner suburbs become overwhelmed, they start bringing victims out to our hospitals.  We're only about 45 minutes out of DC.


 88 
 on: March 31, 2020, 01:22:25 PM 
Started by zahc - Last post by Jamisjockey
I must say that I would not have predicted the bay area to be doing relatively well at this point.
Californians seem to have taken the social distancing seriously early on. 
Meanwhile, in NYC, thousands flocked out to see the USNS Comfort dock. 

 89 
 on: March 31, 2020, 01:18:32 PM 
Started by zahc - Last post by charby
Yes, that's called inflation, which I already addressed but I'd be happy to do so more explicitly.  From what I could find, inflation from 1983 to 2016 is something like an average of 3% a year or 191% total.  Add in the original amount and you're looking at essentially tripling the 1983 amount to achieve a rough equivalence with the 2016 amount.  So if state revenue per person were $1,673.88 in 1983 then in 2016 you'd expect it to be something like $5,021.64.  

Instead we see $7,912.32.  But even if all the increase were straight inflation and not actual increase in government budget, I'm still not seeing the "cut, cut, cut" when it comes either to taxation or to spending, which was - if I'm not misunderstanding you - your original claim that Republicans and "their funding sources" were pushing to the presumed detriment of your state.
Which is it?  You don't want the government to cut taxes at all because you want higher taxes to pay for more services (reference your "cut, cut, cut" statement), or you don't want them to play the stupid shell game where they change where they're taxing you because they end up taxing you more?  Those positions seem to be at odds with each other.
 Huh?
That's an interesting story, and maybe there is even some truth in it somewhere, but I don't think population (or population density, or whatever it was you were implying) is the defining factor for the overall cost of government per person.  I pulled the stats for the largest state, the smallest state, and all the ones around Iowa and put them below if you are curious to put numbers to your idea.  I'm not seeing any indication of any sort of clear relationship there.

I've seen you push the "Our state government is too small and it is wrong for the Republicans to cut taxes!" line a number of times before, and while I do appreciate you challenging the baseline on this forum, upon actually looking at the numbers it seems to me that you are arguing from false ideological assumptions instead of facts.

Population vs taxation per person.
StatePopulationTotal tax revenue per personState and local tax revenue per person
California39,512,223$18,366.02 $11,499.58
Connecticut3,565,287$24,789.57 $9,817.97
Utah3,205,958$12,037.01 $6,810.39
Iowa3,155,070$15,776.97 $8,848.79
Nevada3,080,156$15,282.68 $7,906.74
Arkansas3,017,825$13,259.35 $6,840.93
Wyoming578,759$18,504.61 $10,230.39

Ok Google warrior! One thing you don't live here, I do. GOP is in charge in the legislative and gov office (since 2016) and by law they have cut income and property taxes, you can research that. If you chart says the revenue is coming in is going up, where the *expletive deleted*ck is the new money coming from and why the *expletive deleted*ck are they ending or cutting programs and services if this revenue is increasing??



 90 
 on: March 31, 2020, 12:57:31 PM 
Started by zahc - Last post by cordex
Those charts are faulty because goods and services cost more than what in 1983 then why they do in 2016.  Households also make more money then what they did in 1983.
Yes, that's called inflation, which I already addressed but I'd be happy to do so more explicitly.  From what I could find, inflation from 1983 to 2016 is something like an average of 3% a year or 191% total.  Add in the original amount and you're looking at essentially tripling the 1983 amount to achieve a rough equivalence with the 2016 amount.  So if state revenue per person were $1,673.88 in 1983 then in 2016 you'd expect it to be something like $5,021.64.  

Instead we see $7,912.32.  But even if all the increase were straight inflation and not actual increase in government budget, I'm still not seeing the "cut, cut, cut" when it comes either to taxation or to spending, which was - if I'm not misunderstanding you - your original claim that Republicans and "their funding sources" were pushing to the presumed detriment of your state.

I wish they wouldn't cut taxes because a tax cut in one area, is usually a bigger tax increase in another. Cut property taxes and there is a local sales tax increase to pay for what property taxes paid for, etc.
Which is it?  You don't want the government to cut taxes at all because you want higher taxes to pay for more services (reference your "cut, cut, cut" statement), or you don't want them to play the stupid shell game where they change where they're taxing you because they end up taxing you more?  Those positions seem to be at odds with each other.

Iowa also has 3.1 million people, not a huge tax base so one should expect taxes to be higher than a smaller sized state with more residents.
Huh?
That's an interesting story, and maybe there is even some truth in it somewhere, but I don't think population (or population density, or whatever it was you were implying) is the defining factor for the overall cost of government per person.  I pulled the stats for the largest state, the smallest state, and all the ones around Iowa and put them below if you are curious to put numbers to your idea.  I'm not seeing any indication of any sort of clear relationship there.

I've seen you push the "Our state government is too small and it is wrong for the Republicans to cut taxes!" line a number of times before, and while I do appreciate you challenging the baseline on this forum, upon actually looking at the numbers it seems to me that you are arguing from false ideological assumptions instead of facts.

Population vs taxation per person.
StatePopulationTotal tax revenue per personState and local tax revenue per person
California39,512,223$18,366.02 $11,499.58
Connecticut3,565,287$24,789.57 $9,817.97
Utah3,205,958$12,037.01 $6,810.39
Iowa3,155,070$15,776.97 $8,848.79
Nevada3,080,156$15,282.68 $7,906.74
Arkansas3,017,825$13,259.35 $6,840.93
Wyoming578,759$18,504.61 $10,230.39

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