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 91 
 on: January 17, 2019, 07:11:56 AM 
Started by MechAg94 - Last post by MechAg94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hURgA_BNSGc

Mama bear goes after black bear that is too close.  The black bear goes up a tree and the other bear goes up after it.  It is impressive just how fast both of these bears move not only over the ground, but up the tree.  

I live on the Texas Gulf Coast and this makes me want to get a bear gun.  I am not sure 45/70 is enough, but a guide gun sounds like a good start.  

 92 
 on: January 17, 2019, 07:07:12 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by Ben
Because the Dems have two calculations at play here:
1) federal workers are mostly democrats and a core constituency that won't switch sides (Trump froze federal pay this year as well)
2) they cannot hand Trump a win on the wall, as it's one of his major campaign promises.


Agree that those are two of their primary considerations. At some point I'm thinking they are going to overplay that hand. Right now I think it's still 50/50, or leaning a bit more to "Trumps fault" than theirs in public opinion. The longer this goes, especially with dems doing "obstruction" stuff, this could start running much more to "dems fault". Especially if Trump holds the SOTU*. There's another caravan of several thousand on their way up here, the timing of which could coincide with the SOTU. Depending on how Trump presents the SOTU, that could really increase "pro wall" (or pro multi-faceted border security) public opinion. It could force the dems to the table.

On the RIF stuff, I think that's a little dangerous. It could really backfire on Trump. IIRC, there was an "early retirement" option offered during Clinton. I can't remember if it coincided with that shutdown or was offered outside that. I know a lot of feds that would jump at an early retirement option that froze or disappeared their FTEs after they left. It would be a minor outlay of cash that reducse govt with little backlash. Admittedly it's a drop in the bucket.

Though Jamis (posted while I was typing) makes a good point: How do you weed out the slackards? The people I know that would take an early retirement mostly actually do good and necessary work. They would leave just to get away from the bullshit. Most of the slackards are slackards in real life as well, and couldn't afford to take an early retirement. They've got a good thing and know they would have a hard time getting a good job elsewhere, because they're slackards.

About the only way to RIF is to look at places like the EPA and eliminate entire program offices, versus picking and choosing employees. Which wouldn't really be a RIF, and also wouldn't weed out the good employees from the bad.


* He should absolutely hold the SOTU on time, in the Senate. All Senators and some of their guests get a seat. Other available seating goes to House reps by seniority. As the House is "the People's House" I find it interesting that a speaker even has the authority to refuse a President the SOTU, simply because they don't like him. "The People" have the right to hear what he has to say.

 93 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:57:30 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by jamisjockey
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html

Looks interesting, but I really doubt it will happen.

I've heard this from a few people. But looking at the list of agencies from this shut down, what's there to really cut?  rif'ing a few tens of thousands of federal employees is a drop in the bucket.  
People get wrapped up in the "non essential" bullshit.  
Would you like to know what kind of non essential stuff isn't being done in my agency right now?
Aircraft and aircrew Inspections
Aircraft registrations
Commercial drone waivers
Procedures and airspace work
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Let me tell you a little story:
IAD built a third runway a few years back.  As part of the modernization of our equipment and procedures, we've been in the process of revamping all the instrument arrivals approaches to take full advantage of this.  We expected to have it completed by the end of this year. These procedures would give us the ability to maintain a high arrival rate under almost all circumstances with less personnel needed to do so.  It will save airlines time and money.  
That project is now halted and will fall months behind schedule.  At the same time, UAL is planning to increase traffic to IAD.  Metro is full steam ahead on the IAD line that will connect IAD to DC via light rail/metro, which is expected to increase passenger counts for IAD.  Other airlines are looking at increasing flights to IAD.  
The people who were spearheading that work on our end are either deemed "non essential" and on furlough, or were controllers on detail who've been kicked back to the operation.

I know there are plenty of federal employees who *expletive deleted*ck about most of the day and don't do any real work.  The idea that Trump knows exactly who they are, and has a master plan to rif out the lazy and useless ones is laughable.

 94 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:53:04 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by MillCreek
I read the article on the Galveston plan.  Solely from the standpoint of managing the plan's assets, I would also eliminate withdrawal as a lump sum if the lump sum is over a set amount. Periodic payments or annuity only.  Not from the perspective of retirees not managing their money well, but to avoid a run on the fund.

 95 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:45:30 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by jamisjockey
I find it interesting that Pelosi is doing this "because shutdown". That says she expects the shutdown to still be in place on 29JAN. Doesn't sound like someone who wants the gov opened back up.

Also "security concerns" is extremely laughable.

Because the Dems have two calculations at play here:
1) federal workers are mostly democrats and a core constituency that won't switch sides (Trump froze federal pay this year as well)
2) they cannot hand Trump a win on the wall, as it's one of his major campaign promises.

 96 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:39:56 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by BTR
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html

Looks interesting, but I really doubt it will happen.

Oh, that would be AMAZING!!!  Here's hoping!   shocked

 97 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:23:48 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by Ben
I heard a suggestion that if the SOTU is canceled, Trump should rent a big stadium somewhere and hold his own rally/State of the Union.  It would be epic.

I find it interesting that Pelosi is doing this "because shutdown". That says she expects the shutdown to still be in place on 29JAN. Doesn't sound like someone who wants the gov opened back up.

Also "security concerns" is extremely laughable.

 98 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:19:41 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by MechAg94
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html

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In only five more days of the already "longest government shutdown in history" (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html#ixzz5csHd5byV
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Looks interesting, but I really doubt it will happen.

 99 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:18:36 AM 
Started by Ben - Last post by MechAg94
I heard a suggestion that if the SOTU is canceled, Trump should rent a big stadium somewhere and hold his own rally/State of the Union.  It would be epic.

 100 
 on: January 17, 2019, 06:10:53 AM 
Started by RoadKingLarry - Last post by Ben
Do as we say, not as we do:


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