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What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« on: December 10, 2007, 07:42:49 AM »
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MODERATOR: It's the presidential forum, the Republican one.
We're going to talk about something else. Now we're going to talk
about Latin America. A week ago, exactly a week ago, Venezuela
rejected changes to the constitution, but the president, Hugo
Chavez...

(APPLAUSE)

President Hugo Chavez has insisted that he's going to propose
them again. Many consider him a threat to democracy in the region.
If you were elected president, how would you deal with Chavez? Let's
start with Congressman John Paul -- Ron Paul, sorry.

PAUL: Well, he's not the easiest person to deal with, but we
should deal with everybody around the world the same way: with
friendship and opportunity to talk and try to trade with people.

(AUDIENCE BOOING)

PAUL: We talked to -- we talked to Stalin, we talked to
Khrushchev, we've talked to Mao, and we've talked to the world, and we
get along with people.

PAUL: Actually, I believe we're at a time where we even ought to
talk to Cuba and trade and travel to Cuba.

(AUDIENCE BOOING)

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/991cc1aa-b60f-421b-b3da-51592fe3cec2

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2007, 07:44:32 AM »
The Cuba embargo is remarkably stupid.
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2007, 07:46:48 AM »
The point is that Paul was talking to a bunch of Miami Cubans. Message, audience, clue, etc.

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2007, 08:22:01 AM »
He said what he believes is right, regardless of what the audience wanted to hear. 

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2007, 08:32:08 AM »
You think Ron Paul was going to win over an audience of Cuban exiles?
You think Ron Paul believed for a second that they were going to back his campaign wholesale or something?

It's his Tancredo move - Tancredo knows he can't make headway in a Spanish debate so he boycotts it out of principle/playing to his base. Paul does the same, only he shows up.
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2007, 03:15:23 PM »
I'm with the group that says the quickest way of bringing modern times and democracy to Cuba, is to reopen trade.
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2007, 08:06:51 PM »
The point is that Paul was talking to a bunch of Miami Cubans. Message, audience, clue, etc.

If anything that screams intergrity and honesty. A man who does not change his beliefs to get votes, regardless of the audience. It just further reassures me that I am right in my support of Ron Paul.
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2007, 08:18:21 PM »
It screams an idiot who has no clue what to say on a public podium, to me. Someone who shoves their foot in their mouth at Mach 2 every debate, getting resounding boos from the audience.

Yeah, that's what you want addressing foreign heads of state.  rolleyes

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 08:26:04 PM »
It screams an idiot who has no clue what to say on a public podium, to me. Someone who shoves their foot in their mouth at Mach 2 every debate, getting resounding boos from the audience.

Yeah, that's what you want addressing foreign heads of state.  rolleyes

So what is the opposite of what Ron Paul did? Someone would lie and deceive? Someone who would bend and shift his stance to cater to whomever he was speaking to? Apparently you want someone who will coddle and bow to whatever audience happens to be in front of him. Yeah, thats exactly what I want. Someone who doesn't know how to stand his ground and say what he believes. rolleyes

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 06:20:22 AM »
There's a difference between being a fraud and showing some discretion.  You don't get anything done in Washington by pissing off the people you speak to.  Ron Paul needs to find a way to be honest about his beliefs without insulting his audience.  That isn't particularly easy, but it is a necessary skill for the job he's applying for.

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 06:26:03 PM »
The point is that Paul was talking to a bunch of Miami Cubans. Message, audience, clue, etc.

Yeah--what an idiot. Doesn't he know that a politician is supposed to lie to please his audience? Any other republican candidate would have lied his dupa off. Where does that delusional moron get off giving his honest position straight up like that?

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2007, 12:47:45 PM »
The Cuba embargo is remarkably stupid.

Amen.  Nothing makes it easier for a dictator to remain in power than to cut him off from the outside world.  You can raise generations of people who have no idea what outside world is all about. 
Whatever Ron Paul is smoking, I wish he'd pass it around Washington.
Lets face it.  All the other candidates in both parties are full of the same old *expletive deleted*it.  Hot air, promises, tax and spend policies.  Ron Paul has a proven track record of not being full of *expletive deleted*it. 
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2007, 02:15:44 PM »
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It screams an idiot who has no clue what to say on a public podium, to me. Someone who shoves their foot in their mouth at Mach 2..........

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You don't get anything done in Washington by pissing off the people you speak to.

Those comments are hilarious coming from GWB apologists.   laugh

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2007, 03:02:52 PM »
Ron Paul has a proven track record of not being full of *expletive deleted*it. 
Ha!

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2007, 03:41:11 PM »
I can't believe it's almost 2008 and we still don't do business with Cuba. I think everyone else in the world does. We could use another country in the world that just might buy American products.

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2007, 03:50:11 PM »
From what I've read, Cuba has some really nice 50s vintage cars down there. Parts are hard for them to obtain.
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2007, 03:51:06 PM »
Whatever he's smoking, you're not inhaling enough of it--COMMIE!!!!

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2007, 03:55:10 PM »
Whatever he's smoking, you're not inhaling enough of it--COMMIE!!!!

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2007, 04:01:30 AM »
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It screams an idiot who has no clue what to say on a public podium, to me. Someone who shoves their foot in their mouth at Mach 2..........

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You don't get anything done in Washington by pissing off the people you speak to.

Those comments are hilarious coming from GWB apologists.   laugh

Riley, your annoying propensity to misrepresent people is becoming more than simply annoying.

I think GWB is well-meaning but incompetent, and always have.

Stop making up positions and acting like they belong to other people here simply because they don't agree with you.

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2007, 06:53:33 AM »
never mind...

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2007, 06:59:52 AM »
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Quote from: Antibubba on December 12, 2007, 08:51:06 PM
Whatever he's smoking, you're not inhaling enough of it--COMMIE!!!!

 


RP is  certainly not a commie.  Try Libertarian!  Its the new conservative!

Uh, Jamis, my response was to the original post.

What are YOU smoking?
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2007, 12:27:57 PM »
I can't believe it's almost 2008 and we still don't do business with Cuba. I think everyone else in the world does. We could use another country in the world that just might buy American products.

Agreed.

How much crap are we buying from China every year?  And they really are Commies.  shocked  We also buy lots-o-stuff from our buddy, Hugo, down in Venezuela.  Lots of gun-folks would like to see the Norinco import ban lifted so we can buy even more commie-made stuff.

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2007, 01:51:18 PM »
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It screams an idiot who has no clue what to say on a public podium, to me. Someone who shoves their foot in their mouth at Mach 2 every debate, getting resounding boos from the audience.


that we expect placating speeches from our politicians really does speak volumes.
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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2007, 05:00:47 AM »
Yep; get a clue - UNIVISION. We know how Univision - and the GOP leadership and other candidates - feel about Ron Paul. And we can of course rest assured the audience was not seeded in any way. Those boos were a natural reflection of audience opinion Wink

The "Democrats", current and former "Republicans" have all but built the current emerging superpower threat called China. I do not recall anyone booing Bush, Clinton or Bush Sr on that subject in the past. Cuba is right on our doorstep, a small country - and an easy target for absorption and assimilation if gone about the right way.

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Re: What IS Ron smoking now? The univision debate...
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2007, 01:03:18 PM »
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It screams an idiot who has no clue what to say on a public podium, to me. Someone who shoves their foot in their mouth at Mach 2 every debate, getting resounding boos from the audience.


that we expect placating speeches from our politicians really does speak volumes.


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