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Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« on: February 02, 2008, 12:57:53 AM »
S'long as I can prove that I'm above, say, eighteen years old. ID shown as verification, no forms or any transaction records.

If you don't think so, please tell me why, and what controls should be in place to determine who can own a M60 machinegun?
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 01:35:40 AM »
hell yah.   

"but you'll shoot your eye out."   grin

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2008, 03:51:06 AM »
Because a crew-served heavy weapon could be used to hold up a convenience store, of course.  cheesy

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2008, 04:46:19 AM »
because it's a horrendous POS and its precursor, the 1919, or its successor, the 240G are far superior weapons.  get some standards, man!

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2008, 04:48:15 AM »
Well...you should be able to prove that you:

A.  Do not have forearms with a circumference larger than 8 inches.
B.  Own no bandannas.
C.  Are not Rambo.

Anyone caught with an M60 and any combination of the previous attributes is to be assumed plotting terrorist acts.

Or am I thinking of another gun?

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 04:58:51 AM »
Well, a semi-auto M60 is available, with nothing more required than a gullible customer, a fat bank account, and a phone call to Warshington...

A full-auto needs a fatter bank account, six months, and sign-offs... I've never heard of age restrictions on NFA - are there?
 
Oh, and you'll need to send it to one of the specialists and have it reworked for reliability, if it hasn't already.

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 06:32:01 AM »
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Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?

Of course.  No questions asked, other than "Cash or credit?"

You should also be able to buy one on the AlGoreInternet and have it shipped anywhere you like.  Or buy one at Wal-Mart.  Or better yet, Sam's Club, since you will need to bulk buy your ammo.

You'll find that most people here on APS are pretty much pro-freedom.
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 07:56:26 AM »
A.  Do not have forearms with a circumference larger than 8 inches.

Pfft, my wrist is 8.25.
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 07:59:45 AM »
You'll find that most people here on APS are pretty much pro-freedom. 

There goes that thread.   laugh


For some reason, I assumed he meant a fire-cracker.   undecided


Because a crew-served heavy weapon could be used to hold up a convenience store, of course.  cheesy

Is an M60 considered a heavy weapon?  Well, I'm sure it's heavy after a few miles of road march, but other than that...
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2008, 08:09:39 AM »
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Is an M60 considered a heavy weapon?  Well, I'm sure it's heavy after a few miles of road march, but other than that...

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2008, 08:32:34 AM »
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Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?

Of course.  No questions asked, other than "Cash or credit?"

You should also be able to buy one on the AlGoreInternet and have it shipped anywhere you like.  Or buy one at Wal-Mart.  Or better yet, Sam's Club, since you will need to bulk buy your ammo.

You'll find that most people here on APS are pretty much pro-freedom.
  Pretty much mirrors my thoughts. 

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2008, 08:39:59 AM »
Of course not.

NO ONE should be allowed to buy an M60 over the counter.

They stink.

An MG42, on the other hand...
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2008, 08:48:30 AM »
Well, a semi-auto M60 is available, with nothing more required than a gullible customer, a fat bank account, and a phone call to Warshington...

A full-auto needs a fatter bank account, six months, and sign-offs... I've never heard of age restrictions on NFA - are there?
 
Oh, and you'll need to send it to one of the specialists and have it reworked for reliability, if it hasn't already.



Do you honestly think that the artificially inflated NFA market for full-auto counts as "available?"

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2008, 09:36:10 AM »
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2008, 10:31:01 AM »
Mail order would be better.  laugh
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2008, 10:47:00 AM »
I would say that I prefer to buy mine the usual way - out of the back of the NRA trucks at gun shows and PTA meetings, but that'd be giving too much away...
 
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2008, 11:32:56 AM »
I dream of a world in which I can buy alcohol, tobacco, and firearms at the same drivethrough window and use them all before I get home...
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2008, 11:53:24 AM »
Didn't they used to come as the surpise in a cracker jack box?

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2008, 12:22:46 PM »
Well, a semi-auto M60 is available, with nothing more required than a gullible customer, a fat bank account, and a phone call to Warshington...

A full-auto needs a fatter bank account, six months, and sign-offs... I've never heard of age restrictions on NFA - are there?
 
Oh, and you'll need to send it to one of the specialists and have it reworked for reliability, if it hasn't already.



Do you honestly think that the artificially inflated NFA market for full-auto counts as "available?"



Given every definition of "available" I've ever read, yes.

Now I wouldn't say the current legal process was "convenient", "affordable" or even "Constitutional", but those weren't part of the original question.
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2008, 03:16:03 PM »
I'll play this straight.  Serious answer, no sarcasm.

The 2nd Amendment to the U. S. Constitution was written and adopted as part of the checks and balances owned by the citizens of the United States against the various governments within these United States.  From that perspective, the only plausable answer to the thread question is "Yes".

Without the power to physically resist the government and governmental incroachment, promises of freedoms listed on paper are meaningless.
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2008, 04:36:58 PM »
Over, under, along side, through, & any other way in relation to the counter.

I would prefer to see mine come & get dropped on the porch by the lovely brown truck of fun & gadgets, however.
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2008, 06:26:07 PM »
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Are not Rambo.

Seriously, I'm going to reveal something here. My last name IS Rambo. So leave us alone, dammit!


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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2008, 08:58:16 PM »
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Is an M60 considered a heavy weapon?  Well, I'm sure it's heavy after a few miles of road march, but other than that...

We didn't call it "The Pig" for nothing.


Is that whence the name?  Never had the honor of humping the 60 for very long, never wanted to.

We fired the 240/MAG-58 in OSUT, so I could never get too excited by the 60. 
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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2008, 09:03:26 PM »
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Are not Rambo.

Seriously, I'm going to reveal something here. My last name IS Rambo. So leave us alone, dammit!


And I prefer the BAR or an FN MAG 58.

A full-auto BAR in 30-06 is a fun thing.  grin

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Re: Should I be able to buy an M60 over the counter?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2008, 09:13:00 PM »
Well, I think it's poorly balanced, and not all that ergonomic. I think the designer was going for "futuristic ray gun" and instead got "pig iron."
 
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