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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2008, 10:27:12 AM »
Yes, Mike Huckabee.

Ahh yes, Mr "We need to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards."

YA THEOCRACY!

Shush.  He's the new Conservative-in-Chief.  Taunting and criticism will not be tolerated.

The Constitution, fortunately, isn't easily amended. So that really is not something I am worried about too much.

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2008, 10:35:36 AM »


Beautiful. Because when you can't debate with substance, just resort to petty insults.  rolleyes

C'mon, that was hardly petty.  Awesome quality, clear message, no facts.... that would make a GREAT movie poster.  Don't be so mean. 
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2008, 10:49:18 AM »
I wonder... I wonder how many Ron Paul supporters are actually democrats.
 
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »
Probably a good chunk.  So what?

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2008, 10:51:39 AM »
I wonder... I wonder how many Ron Paul supporters are actually democrats.
 
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Probably a lot of older ones who voted for and still think Jimmy Carter was right, too.


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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2008, 10:53:31 AM »
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Odd, he has 25 times more delegates that Ron Paul...

Yeah, and he paid about $1 million per delegate.  And he's supposed to be some kind of business genius?

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2008, 12:05:05 PM »
Yeah, and he paid about $1 million per delegate.  And he's supposed to be some kind of business genius?

Romney paid millions of dollars from his own pocket putting his wallet where his mouth is and running for a public office which would shorten his life and would never ever pay back the money he has already spent on it. And you bust him for it? What is wrong with you?  shocked

It is my belief that putting particular political stances aside, it is exactly people like Romney that we need to be electing - people that have it all and do not NEED to be in office but run for it out of desire to make changes in this country. I'd trust him 1,000 times more than the typical politicians, whose primary motivation is stuffing their faces and their pockets through the levers of power at their disposal.

This country will only grow weaker, more socialist, and more messed up, if the culture continues to move towards condemnation of personal success. People that are so bitter about such success are almost invariably those that wait to suck on the fedgov tit as well. Apparently stealing from other people through taxation is more honorable that making out big on your own in the real world.

Also, I am glad I did not register as Republican to vote in the primary. It is clear there is something seriously wrong with the party if it would choose a pinko liar like McStain over a businessman who at least professes the right conservative stances on a series of issues.

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2008, 12:07:04 PM »
Yes, the Ron Paul campaign is a DEMOCRATIC PLOT.

He's been a sleeper agent since 1978.
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2008, 12:42:03 PM »

Also, I am glad I did not register as Republican to vote in the primary. It is clear there is something seriously wrong with the party if it would choose a pinko liar like McStain over a businessman who at least professes the right conservative stances on a series of issues.

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2008, 01:06:37 PM »
Yeah, and he paid about $1 million per delegate.  And he's supposed to be some kind of business genius?
It is my belief that putting particular political stances aside, it is exactly people like Romney that we need to be electing - people that have it all and do not NEED to be in office but run for it out of desire to make changes in this country.

Bush was pretty well off before he ran for president also, and look what we got from that.
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2008, 01:10:39 PM »
Funny, I'm doing just fine with finances. Better than I was under Klinton.

The funny part is how you don't realize you're doing worse.
Try to buy a house - they're all over the place, nobody can sell, but you're not going to find one that doesn't cost 50% more than it did 8 years ago, at least not near a city.
Go fill your gas tank, that'll cost you twice what it did 8 years ago.
Neither of these goods costs much different than they did 8 years ago if you were to purchase them using weighed gold, and the world's supply of gold hasn't appreciably changed, which means that the dollar is crashing.
I am also "doing just fine with finances", thank you.  My point is that when the destruction of the dollar is manifested in every market, neither of us will be fine, unless we get 70-100% raises. 
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2008, 01:12:13 PM »
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running for a public office which would shorten his life and would never ever pay back the money he has already spent on it.

If you believe that, I have to ask what is wrong with you?  They all leave better off than when they went it. 

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2008, 01:26:03 PM »
I wonder how a McCain/Huckabee team would fair out against Hillary/? or Obama/? in the run for the house?


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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2008, 01:37:52 PM »
If you believe that, I have to ask what is wrong with you?  They all leave better off than when they went it. 

Then please explain to us exactly how he would have recovered the millions he has already spent on the election. Also compare how much he would have otherwise made in the private sector running his business as opposed to drawing a measly 400k from the taxpayer per year for the top post in the greatest country in the world. Please also explain exactly what price should be put on the time and health of somebody as wealthy and old as he is.

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2008, 02:25:06 PM »
Anyone been listening to "conservative" talk radio since Mitt's "suspension"?......

Today will be remembered as the day "conservative" talk radio died and the Republic was injected with slow poison....
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2008, 03:12:46 PM »
I wonder how a McCain/Huckabee team would fair out against Hillary/? or Obama/? in the run for the house?

Well, given that 3/4 of the country wants out of Iraq, probably not so good.
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2008, 03:14:07 PM »
I wonder how a McCain/Huckabee team would fair out against Hillary/? or Obama/? in the run for the house?

Well, given that 3/4 of the country wants out of Iraq, probably not so good.

Can you specify where this oft-repeated "3/4" number comes from, besides someone's posterior orifice at moveon.org?

It's like the VPC's "3/4s of Americans want handguns banned". Same sh__, different agenda.

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2008, 03:55:11 PM »
If you believe that, I have to ask what is wrong with you?  They all leave better off than when they went it. 

Then please explain to us exactly how he would have recovered the millions he has already spent on the election. Also compare how much he would have otherwise made in the private sector running his business as opposed to drawing a measly 400k from the taxpayer per year for the top post in the greatest country in the world. Please also explain exactly what price should be put on the time and health of somebody as wealthy and old as he is.

I'm reminded of the Simpsons bit from when Homer became head of the Union.

Homer: So what's this job pay?
Carl: Nothing...
Homer: D'oh!
Carl: ...unless you're crooked.
Homer: Woohoo!
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2008, 05:34:28 PM »
I wonder how a McCain/Huckabee team would fair out against Hillary/? or Obama/? in the run for the house?

Well, given that 3/4 of the country wants out of Iraq, probably not so good.

Can you specify where this oft-repeated "3/4" number comes from, besides someone's posterior orifice at moveon.org?

It's like the VPC's "3/4s of Americans want handguns banned". Same sh__, different agenda.

It isn't scientific data but, most of the people I know think we should get out.
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2008, 06:55:44 PM »
How do they swing, politically Bob?
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2008, 07:10:42 PM »
Most of them are fairly conservative.
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2008, 07:33:47 PM »
I don't think there are many that would say we need to stay in Iraq indefinitely and in large numbers. The big difference among the crushing majority is WHEN to pull out. To cut and run or to pull out gradually as the Iraqis get on their feet. That is why such estimates as "3/4" are inaccurate at best and outright dishonest at worst.

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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2008, 08:36:46 PM »
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Anyone been listening to "conservative" talk radio since Mitt's "suspension"?......
 

No.  Why?
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2008, 08:40:42 PM »
I wonder how a McCain/Huckabee team would fair out against Hillary/? or Obama/? in the run for the house?

Well, given that 3/4 of the country wants out of Iraq, probably not so good.

Can you specify where this oft-repeated "3/4" number comes from, besides someone's posterior orifice at moveon.org?

It's like the VPC's "3/4s of Americans want handguns banned". Same sh__, different agenda.

Here is an interesting article about Bush and his administration as well as their actions...

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Poll: Bush approval mark at all-time low

(CNN) -- Beset with an unpopular war and an American public increasingly less trusting, President Bush faces the lowest approval rating of his presidency, according to a national poll released Monday.

Bush also received his all-time worst marks in three other categories in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll. The categories were terrorism, Bush's trustworthiness and whether the Iraq war was worthwhile.

Bush's 37 percent overall approval rating was two percentage points below his ranking in an October survey. Both polls had a sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. (Watch: The last Bush Democrat? -- 2:02)

Sixty percent of the 1,006 adult Americans interviewed by telephone Friday through Sunday said they disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as president.

The White House has said it doesn't pay attention to poll numbers and the figures do not affect policy.

"We have a proud record of accomplishment and a positive agenda for the future," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters Wednesday.

"We look forward to continuing to talk about it. I mean, you can get caught up in polls; we don't. Polls are snapshots in time."

Bush, who received high marks after the terrorist attacks of 2001, also rated poorly in the new poll for his policy on terrorism. For the first time, less than half -- 48 percent -- of those surveyed said they approved of how the president was handling the war on terror. Forty-nine percent said they disapprove.

In November 2001, Bush had an 87 percent overall approval mark and an 86 percent rating on terrorism.

Bush has been under fire from Democratic lawmakers for the way his administration made the case to invade Iraq in 2003 and how it has handled the conflict since then.

The president fired back in a speech Monday, accusing Democrats of "playing politics." (Full story)

In the new poll, 60 percent said it was not worth going to war in Iraq, while 38 percent said it was worthwhile. The question was asked of about half of those surveyed and had a margin of error of five percentage points. The results marked a decline in support of seven percentage points from two months earlier.

Bush's lowest approval ratings came on two issues that divide his own Republican Party.

On federal spending, 71 percent disapproved of his performance and 26 percent approved. The approval rating was the same on immigration issues, and the disapproval mark was 65 percent.

Sixty-one percent of respondents disapproved of Bush's handling of the economy, and 37 percent approved.

The country appears to be split on whether Bush is a strong president and whether or not Americans personally like him.

When asked about his abilities, 49 percent of those surveyed said he was a strong president and 49 percent said he was a weak leader.

About 50 percent of people polled said they disliked Bush, with 6 percent claiming to hate the president.

Bush's overall approval mark matched the 37 percent rating of newly elected President Clinton in June 1993. (Interactive: Second-term slump)

When asked if they trust Bush more than they had Clinton, 48 percent of respondents said they trusted Bush less, while 36 percent said they trusted him more and 15 percent said they trusted Bush the same as Clinton.

For the first time, more than half of the public thinks Bush is not honest and trustworthy -- 52 percent to 46 percent.

A week ago, President Bush campaigned for Virginia gubernatorial candidate Jerry Kilgore, who lost the election a day later to Democratic Lt. Gov. Tim Kaine. (Full story)

In the poll, 56 percent of registered voters said they would be likely to vote against a local candidate supported by Bush, while 34 percent said the opposite.

Only 9 percent said their first choice in next year's elections would be a Republican who supports Bush on almost every major issue.

Forty-six percent said the country would be better off if Congress were controlled by Democrats, while 34 percent backed a GOP majority.

A large majority of Republicans -- 80 percent -- approve of Bush's performance, compared with 28 percent of independents and 7 percent of Democrats. Those results had a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Vice President Dick Cheney's approval rating has dropped 14 points since the start of the year, down from 54 percent in January to 40 percent.

His chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, resigned last month after he was indicted on charges including obstruction of justice and perjury. Libby is accused of lying to investigators and a grand jury investigating the disclosure of the identity of a CIA officer whose husband criticized the White House case for war. (Full story)
  
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Re: Romney bounces from race
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2008, 01:36:25 AM »
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Anyone been listening to "conservative" talk radio since Mitt's "suspension"?......
 

No.  Why?

In a 18-hr span, everyone from Rush to Savage has gone from "Vote Romney--he's the only conservative" to "Vote McCain--he can unite the party".  And they're saying McCain will appoint conservative justices to SCOTUS.....just like they said about Bush in 2004 just before he nominated Harriet Myers......

Turned my stomach.....
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