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Ron Paul Wins
« on: March 04, 2008, 05:30:39 PM »
5% of the vote in his home state that is.
Guess that just wasn't what the country was looking for.
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 05:37:29 PM »
that's because people don't want a government that will leave them alone; they want one that will do things for them (or at least give that appearance).

The thought that "the people" might actually want Obama, Clinton, or McCain doesn't really fill me with optimism. 

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 05:39:09 PM »
not nice kicking a man when hes down.  and paul himself is a decent guy. his biggest liability (after foreign policy) is his disciples. the regular fanatics are bad but the lunatic fringe liberty dollar 911 was an inside job tinfoil hatters are beyond the pale. and sadly color perdeptions of a fairly honorable guy  who may lose his day job as a result of this political experiment. sad i want a third menu choice politically but in the us we either get nuts  or folks surrounded by nuts

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 05:41:17 PM »
Guess that just wasn't what the country was looking for.

I guess not. Now had he been a rabid warmonger that supports invading countries that we don't need to and destroying our economy while pissing on the constitution, maybe he would have gotten more votes.

But atleast he kept his house seat which was also on the line.
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 05:45:02 PM »
glad e kept his house seat  but even in his home district his presidential showing was lackluster

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 05:54:49 PM »
Speaking of raving nutter supporters...

Have you seen the Obamaphiles?

At least Ron Paul supporters don't faint while he's speaking.

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 05:58:56 PM »
i expect that from them  i found it disturbing the way paul drew loons like moths to a flame  and it greatly distracts from his message.  bad enough the relatively sane smug "we're the only ones smart enough to see the messiah " types but sometimes seemed the inmates were running the asylum with his supporters

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 06:04:43 PM »
Speaking of raving nutter supporters...

Have you seen the Obamaphiles?

At least Ron Paul supporters don't faint while he's speaking.
I haven't seen any Obama supporters wearing wookie costumes yet.  So I have to conclude that Obama's supporters, bad as they are, are still a cut above Paul's.

Half of Paul's message was pretty good.  Unfortunately, the other half, the stuff that really mattered to most voters, was downright abysmal.  And that's a shame.

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 06:09:41 PM »
not nice kicking a man when hes down. 

No one was kicking him. Ron was punching them in the foot with his chin! grin
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2008, 06:11:13 PM »
true enough

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2008, 06:52:15 PM »
Now that John McCain has sewn up the Republican nomination, does that mean that Ron Paul is finally going to start making his move?
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2008, 07:08:17 PM »
you guys are hard on the old man

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2008, 10:20:51 PM »
Ron Paul is a good man; a sound statesman and solid patriot. I would say rather than representative of him, low figures are an indictment of the stupidity of people flocking to truly deluded, or perhaps more likely ambitious candidates.

You can not get much more looney than taking the idea that we can have "peace and prosperity in every land" - which is where the fake purports to to be taking us that is currently in the WH. Keenly supported and defended still by a great many people who should know better.

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2008, 11:54:34 PM »
I've written about this in the past, and I'll say it again - Ron was a good candidate with a completely unprofessional campaign staff.
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2008, 05:33:29 AM »
His supporters were loons, he attracted the worst sorts of black-helicopter conspiracy nuts and odious racists, and he had a tendency to get more and more shrill if challenged in a debate. He clung to an asinine gold standard suited for the 19th century with clerks and paper, not a world where global cross-currency transactions happen trillions of times per second. And his foreign policy was a redux of Jimmy Carter.

Other than that...




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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2008, 06:40:49 AM »
As you said Mannedwolf, those two items were the main reasons I got from a guy who was anti-Ron Paul.  I don't have a problem with the guy, I am just not sure I want him as President right now. 

Now if I could have a Congress full of Ron Paul type thinkers, that would be pretty good. 
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2008, 06:47:17 AM »
When I was in his district, he got my vote for Congressman. I'd vote for him again - for Congress. By and large, Ron Paul would have made a very good domestic policy President. Not perfect by any means, but better than anyone we've seen in a long time.

Thing is, the President has other than domestic policy issues to deal with. When he stated that 9/11 was "blowback" for US policy, and further opined that islamofascists and other international terrorists would simply  leave us alone if we left the middle east, he showed himself divorced from reality by his naive idealism.

There are bad guys out there, who won't leave us alone.

Were this 1938 rather than 2008, I can picture him triumphantly waving a piece of paper above his head while he proclaimed "Peace in Our Time" . . .  
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2008, 08:39:52 AM »
Had, by some stretch of the imagination, Mr. Paul been elected president I sincerely doubt that much at all would have gotten done. Except empower congress in a way that has never been done before.

His idealism on so many subjects would have quickly isolated the office from Congress. He'd have had amazing difficulty in putting together any sort of process, and likely would have had very little success with the Republicans.

I suspect that Congress would have overridden multiple vetos on a wide range of subjects.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Single-minded idealism is GREAT.

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2008, 08:54:26 AM »
Somehow, I think RP is gonna look real good to you chuckleheads after the reality of President ObamaClintonMcCain sinks in. 

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2008, 10:41:13 AM »
Somehow, I think RP is gonna look real good to you chuckleheads after the reality of President ObamaClintonMcCain sinks in. 
I think I'd prefer President LarryMoeCurly . . . as I predicted about this election quite some time ago . . . nothing good will come of it.

The only good thing I can come up with on McCain is that we might - might - get a decent SCOTUS appointment. I know it's a long shot, but it's at least possible with him. With Obama or Clinton, we can expect count on a nominee that makes Ruth Bader Ginsberg sound like Ann Coulter by comparison.
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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2008, 12:29:25 PM »
Now that John McCain has sewn up the Republican nomination, does that mean that Ron Paul is finally going to start making his move?

Just because you "read it on the innernet news" doesn't make it true. Many of the national GOP convention delegates haven't even been elected yet, and those people are the ones who actually pick the GOP's candidate, which won't happen until August, IIRC.

Ron Paul is still very much in the race, even though the major news media, as well as administrators on small forums around the 'net, very much wish it weren't so.

Now that the GOP nomination is down to a socialist and a "real Republican", I'm looking forward to Nevada's next round of delegate elections and debates, which I happen to be personally involved in.

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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2008, 12:46:22 PM »
"Ron Paul is still very much in the race, even though the major news media, as well as administrators on small forums around the 'net, very much wish it weren't so."

what race are you talking about?  you do know he didn't even do that well in his home district?  barring all the other candidates except nader being killed his chances are pretty slim.

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2008, 12:50:09 PM »
"Ron Paul is still very much in the race, even though the major news media, as well as administrators on small forums around the 'net, very much wish it weren't so."

what race are you talking about?  you do know he didn't even do that well in his home district?  barring all the other candidates except nader being killed his chances are pretty slim.

Abe Lincoln's chances weren't so hot, either. Point being, despite misinformation (and outright, bald-faced lies), this is still a race between Paul and McCain on the GOP side.
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2008, 12:56:59 PM »
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they want one that will do things for to them

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Re: Ron Paul Wins
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2008, 01:01:09 PM »
"Ron Paul is still very much in the race, even though the major news media, as well as administrators on small forums around the 'net, very much wish it weren't so."

what race are you talking about?  you do know he didn't even do that well in his home district?  barring all the other candidates except nader being killed his chances are pretty slim.

Abe Lincoln's chances weren't so hot, either. Point being, despite misinformation (and outright, bald-faced lies), this is still a race between Paul and McCain on the GOP side.



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