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Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« on: June 03, 2008, 10:18:09 AM »
Then: 1989 Vector W-2



Now: 2008 Lamborghini Reventon. Glass cockpit?


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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 10:21:05 AM »
Wow. Only like 1 million ¬...

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 10:24:32 AM »
That bottom pic looks like the targeting computer on an X-Wing.

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 10:29:52 AM »
or the HUD from that movie Firefox, minus the cryllics

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 10:34:38 AM »
Automobile controls ought to be simple and intuitive, not ergonomic nightmares . . . these look worse than the original BMW iDrive system. (Unless they include controls to fire rockets, lay down an oil slick, and dump some caltrops.)
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 10:58:05 AM »
Hankb,

The nice thing about a glass cockpit is that all that needs doing to change things is a reprogram.

I've always thought carmakers would have been smart to make a standard sized LCD panel for their vehicles, and if they want stylistic differences just write a difference driver program. It's still have gauges, they'd just be images instead of the real thing.

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 11:00:07 AM »
Hankb,

The nice thing about a glass cockpit is that all that needs doing to change things is a reprogram.

I've always thought carmakers would have been smart to make a standard sized LCD panel for their vehicles, and if they want stylistic differences just write a difference driver program. It's still have gauges, they'd just be images instead of the real thing.

Unless it ran on Microsoft software. Crashes could be more literal.

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 11:27:27 AM »
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 12:50:34 PM »
Automobile controls ought to be simple and intuitive, not ergonomic nightmares . . . these look worse than the original BMW iDrive system. (Unless they include controls to fire rockets, lay down an oil slick, and dump some caltrops.)

For nearly $2 million, it might....  cool
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 01:06:04 PM »
Automobile controls ought to be simple and intuitive, not ergonomic nightmares . . . these look worse than the original BMW iDrive system. (Unless they include controls to fire rockets, lay down an oil slick, and dump some caltrops.)

For nearly $2 million, it might....  cool
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 04:36:04 PM »
Am I supposed to be impressed or something? My 86 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R actually talks to me and has a complete digital dash. Touchscreen HVAC on a car in 86!!
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2008, 05:35:35 PM »
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Automobile controls ought to be simple and intuitive, not ergonomic nightmares . . .

Like this!

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2008, 06:14:13 PM »
seriously, i thought those were planes at first.

i would like to point out that i can check my oil (but not change it), change my tire and drive resonably (not one speeding ticket, thank you very much) but beyond that i know nothing about cars. and i admit it so there.

i will point out that the lamborgina does not translate. i think that the little letters in circles are the gear its in (so its in neutral?) and the other side seems to have fuel gauge and such (but where's the speed?) and the top has a picture of a steering wheel (is that supposed to mean something?) 
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2008, 06:22:08 PM »


the car is in neutral, so no speed registers in the green circle
we seem to be idling at 2500, 40 percent fuel capacity,
coolant is at 80 degrees C, oil temp & pressure are in range

fire the flux capacitor at 80

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2008, 06:25:34 PM »
but whats the top thingy?

and if you tell me its for aiming rockets i am so buying one!
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2008, 06:28:18 PM »
its for aiming rockets
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2008, 06:31:43 PM »
its for aiming rockets

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 03:57:18 AM »
but whats the top thingy?

and if you tell me its for aiming rockets i am so buying one!

G-meter. But yeah, it does look like a targeting system.

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2008, 06:38:34 AM »
This is what I was talking about. (And, there's nothing new under the sun).

Site's in French, but here's the page with the result pics.

http://zcarcockpit.free.fr/FR_Description_LeResultat.html

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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 09:19:50 AM »
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2008, 02:19:32 PM »
seriously, i thought those were planes at first.


Eh, the Lamborghini's dash is nothing compared to what is going on in general aviation these days. The lowly Cessna 172 comes with a pretty advanced glass cockpit. The Lamborghini's dash looks like a cheap cockpit mockup from a crappy 1980's movie. Many aircraft (particularly Cessna's single engine piston line) are only available with a glass cockpit. This is relatively new in aviation, a product of the late '90s and particularly the 2000s.

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Even experimental aircraft are getting into the game. We have all kinds of stuff nowadays, and it has all happened in just a few years...I mean, even in the '90s we were just going through the GPS revolution. If the carmakers want to look at some futuristic stuff, they need to pay some attention to general aviation. Cars just started getting widespread panel mount GPS in the past few years.



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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 02:39:58 PM »
True mil spec's cockpit displays are light years ahead of the Lamborghini's display.  Having worked on everything from B-52's and A-6's up to the F-22 I can tell you the real ones are incredible.  A modern fighter cockpit display system costs more than the car.

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2008, 03:16:39 PM »
Having flown a B-52 or three, I can tell you that eyeballing 8 of each gauge and throttle (glass cockpit - what's that?) makes the Lamborghini's dashboard look like a lazy Sunday afternoon. Wink



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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2008, 03:17:03 PM »
All the military aviation news mags make much gesticulation and masturbation about "all glass cockpit" upgrades in existing fleets or new aircraft rollouts. Pilots I had gave a disdainful sniff at our aircraft and it's "steam gauges." (Pitot static, direct read, and other such barbaric stuff) I dunno, that all glass stuff is pretty cool until the power goes out... A car needs water temp, oil pressure, and RPM. Nothing more.
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Re: Mil-Spec inspired car dashboards then and now...
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2008, 03:48:44 PM »
but whats the top thingy?

and if you tell me its for aiming rockets i am so buying one!

G-meter. But yeah, it does look like a targeting system.
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