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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2008, 04:13:31 PM » |
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Well, *expletive deleted*. I never read much of Derek's stuff, but I had a degree of respect for John Shirley. Even used to read his blog a bit. Not anymore. Good luck Oleg. I wish I could contribute, but I'm a bit financially disadvantaged at the moment myself, so I guess my well wishes will have to do.  |
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2008, 04:16:31 PM » |
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I don't understand what's going on with DZ, but you've got my support, Volk. I definitely do not want to see APS or THR disappear. Their value will never decrease as far as I'm concerned. Really valuable tools in the firearms and civil rights communities.
Take care, man. It doesn't sound like you're losing your cool at all, but let me know if I should send kava.
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2008, 04:29:36 PM » |
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When I wake up tomorrow:
1. This thread will be gone
2. THR will be a regular disco-ball of banner ads with zombie moderators
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2008, 04:32:01 PM » |
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I got really depressed after getting the boot from THR, lots of people like
me really only have their love of gun activism to get through some of life's
curve balls.
I will be getting back on my feet soon-hopefully I can kick in a few bucks.
I pray though that its not necessary to go to court and it can go back to friends helping friends.
thr-gunsmith.
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2008, 04:39:11 PM » |
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Just freaking swell. One of the best firearms stops on the 'net laid low by stupidity & greed. They banned me on TFL for arguing about the NRA (I realize I was in the wrong and joined the NRA) so I guess that's all she wrote for me. Thanks, Derek. Douchebag.
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2008, 05:16:31 PM » |
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If APS goes away I will cry. Where's my checkbook.......
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Zomg blog!If government is the answer, it must have been a really, really, really stupid question.
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2008, 05:18:55 PM » |
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If APS goes down or is otherwise screwed with, I propose we all meet at thefiringline.com, to figure out what to do next. Without APS, we have no way of keeping in touch.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2008, 05:20:51 PM » |
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This is crazy, Even though I'm not doing to well on money I will try to send a few bucks your way. |
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2008, 05:24:29 PM » |
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If APS goes down or is otherwise screwed with, I propose we all meet at thefiringline.com, to figure out what to do next. No thanks.  Someplace new, sure. |
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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2008, 05:25:33 PM » |
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temporarily, until we get something else sorter out, so the group doesn't fall apart. How about Glocktalk, or calguns.net then? Some place we can all agree to meet to work this out.
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2008, 05:27:59 PM » |
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If APS goes down or is otherwise screwed with, I propose we all meet at thefiringline.com, to figure out what to do next. No thanks. Someplace new, sure. What issue do you have with TFL? We need someplace to go, and TFL is well known..... |
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Zomg blog!If government is the answer, it must have been a really, really, really stupid question.
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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2008, 05:31:14 PM » |
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If APS goes down or is otherwise screwed with, I propose we all meet at thefiringline.com, to figure out what to do next. No thanks. Someplace new, sure. What issue do you have with TFL? We need someplace to go, and TFL is well known..... You think THR is the only place that has mods with issues who have knocked people off for petty politics? I'll leave it at that. I would think one of the "set up free board" things might suffice temporarily. Yahoo used to absolutely blow, is there anything better now? |
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2008, 05:32:02 PM » |
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I may have a domain that I can set simple machines up on. It's a business one that I own that is not getting much business (actually zero at the moment). I'll check tomorrow when I get home from work. It would give us a temporary place to go until this gets sorted out. Perhaps we could port the existing APS db over to it. I don't know a lot about how to do it, actually, so some assistance would be required.
Would that be acceptable to Oleg and Co., and everyone else?
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2008, 05:32:13 PM » |
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I just had a quick email conversation with Oleg. He owns the APS domain name, so if APS goes down, he will move us to another place.
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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2008, 05:32:46 PM » |
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If APS is closed, I simply re-point the registry to another server. So it will be back.
Derek locked me and everyone else off the server though, so APS db is a hostage, same as THR db.
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2008, 05:35:07 PM » |
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If APS is closed, I simply re-point the registry to another server. So it will be back.
Derek locked me and everyone else off the server though, so APS db is a hostage, same as THR db.
Coolness.  Thanks for your effort in this, I was going to send along a donation tomorrow. |
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2008, 06:49:40 PM » |
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deleted - we still have standards here at APS...
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM » |
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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2008, 09:17:23 PM » |
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cleaned up Deleted to take the High Road.
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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2008, 09:42:03 PM » |
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Gents (and Ladies, and Fistful  ), OV will have his hands full....in the event that this site goes down, you can email me at: mrgoldblatt@yahoo.com. I will give whatever updates I have.... Oleg- feel free to use me as an info source as needed... I will state publically and for the record that I side with Oleg on this. |
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« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2008, 09:55:45 PM » |
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Sorry to hear what's going on with my 2 favorite sites. I'm with Oleg on this one. Funds on the way to support the cause.
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« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2008, 10:00:18 PM » |
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Un-effin' believable...  Derek went pirate. How old is he? Kinda broke myself right now so I'll hold back in reserve for the moment and see how things go but if funds are needed down the way I'll scrounge something together. Falade@snet.net First name Mark. |
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« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2008, 11:06:41 PM » |
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John Shirley is the only one who sided with Derek. He claims that I can't be trusted with the welfare of The High Road.
A couple are waiting on the side-lines. The rest (20+) are with me. The questions and answers are more complex than that. This has been going on in the background for nearly two months and the debate has gone from lively to ugly. Who's siding with who depends upon which of the myriad questions is being asked. The discussion has turned acrimonious and has resulted in some Mods saying it's a private matter between Oleg and Derek and withdrawing from the discussion to do their "jobs" until a resolution comes about. A couple of Mods have resigned. Certainly, almost all of the Staff thinks Derek should transfer complete control of THR to Oleg, but there are layers beyond that where not everyone agrees. Plenty of folks shouting past each other. In my opinion complete trust in anyone no longer exists amongst the Staff at THR. |
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« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2008, 11:27:56 PM » |
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Interesting? Maybe. However, I don't think it would be a good idea to stir the pot any more than necessary. Oleg is handling it and I think harassing Derek will only make it tougher for him.
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« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2008, 11:36:07 PM » |
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Interesting? Maybe. However, I don't think it would be a good idea to stir the pot any more than necessary. Oleg is handling it and I think harassing Derek will only make it tougher for him. If his plan is to place banner ads and make some money, he needs to know he won't have many customers. Even if Oleg can't get the THR name back the site will sink pretty quickly without him and many others that would leave. No members, no ad click through revenue. Should see if Derek will just sell the domain name for a flat price. Be easier for him than going to court if all he wants to do is line his pockets. I've been on THR pretty much from day one and I don't think I ever saw Derek post a single thing about firearms or 2A anyway. |
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