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« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2008, 11:45:13 PM » |
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Should see if Derek will just sell the domain name for a flat price. Be easier for him than going to court if all he wants to do is line his pockets. Oleg offered to buy it back for $75,000. Derek refused, apparently. |
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« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2008, 11:45:24 PM » |
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Rich Lucibella would not be happy if we buy Derek off. He helped to set up THR in the first place. His exact comment: "Don't negotiate with terrorists." I tried negotiations despite his advice. Negotiations yielded no results and Derek was slowly removing my and other staff members' access to the site functions.
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« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2008, 11:47:57 PM » |
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Good enough. Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2008, 11:51:51 PM » |
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This couldn't have been timed better to hurt the RKBA community if it were planned that way.
Someone want to send an e-mail to Apple A Day so we can get Hurricane Flu II on here or some other location?
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« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2008, 11:55:18 PM » |
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Quick note - I deleted personal information references.
APS still has standards that have not been replaced by lynch mob mentality, or at least I didn't get the note.
Yeah, it isn't a good thing, and I'd be plenty torqued if I were Oleg, too.
However, you want that individual's personal information, go dig it up yourself, and then keep it to yourself. You want part of the action, name yourself as a co-litigant.
Lest we forget, until legal actions have been decided, Derek still hold the keys to this forum, too. Remember how much online poo gets flung as this whole deal goes down, nothing would stop a pissed-off website admin from just shutting APS down pending that resolution. He's already done it to THR. Regardless of the reason(s), be it Mutiny, Hostile Takeover, Staff Insurrection, Subterfuge, Infighting, My **** Is Bigger Than Your ****, Anti-RKBA Infiltrators, whatever - more of the story will surface, as HSO alluded to previously in this thread. In the meantime, let's keep the conjecture down to a mild roar, ok?
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« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2008, 12:00:42 AM » |
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You want part of the action, name yourself as a co-litigant. Yeah, I'm in on that. Email on the way to Oleg. |
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« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2008, 12:01:18 AM » |
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Speaking of odd stuff... Thu, Sep. 25th, 2008, 07:41 pm
Going to court. Oleg, how did you manage to post that in the future? (Or is LiveJournal off by 24 hours?)  |
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« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2008, 12:05:04 AM » |
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Speaking of odd stuff... Thu, Sep. 25th, 2008, 07:41 pm
Going to court. Oleg, how did you manage to post that in the future? (Or is LiveJournal off by 24 hours?) I've noticed that LJ's timestamps can be a bit...creative ever since it was taken over by its new Russian owners. I have to wonder if they went low-bidder on their DBA. |
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« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2008, 12:06:41 AM » |
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I posted it "a day ahead" to keep the post at the top of my page.
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« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2008, 12:46:49 AM » |
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TFL has deleted the thread regarding this issue. Don't know if a specific post triggered that, or just the overall tone.
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« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2008, 12:53:48 AM » |
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I dunno, it is pretty apparent to me why TFL closed down the thread on the issues Oleg and Dereck are having over the control of THR. With all due respect for Oleg (and there is much respect)... Sorry folks. We have a tried and tested rule here on TFL. We Don't publicly discuss other Boards.
I'm leaving the initial post of the other thread in this one, as it serves for the notification and contact information.
Please, Take all other posts about this to PM or Email. |
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« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2008, 12:55:07 AM » |
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Ah, didn't see that, I just got the 'you don't have permission to access this thread' page
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Sindawe
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« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2008, 01:00:10 AM » |
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Gotcha... took me a few minutes to find the sticky this morning.
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« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2008, 01:13:01 AM » |
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Oleg, et.al:
Well this is a fine mess. As I see it, the truth is known, and it can't be re-written, or warped. It has always been common knowledge that THR is Oleg's baby. There are a lot of folks here who will bide out time until this resolves. In the event you decide to take a new name for THR, let us know. We'll all filter in there. Just a shame that Derek had to take The Low Road.
Keep your spirit up, Oleg, and everyone else,
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Guns are good;
Guns are great;
Please Lord help those us hate.
Give us this day our daily lead,
and hunting land we?ll call a spread.
If I should die here on this day,
I pray for guns in Heaven with which to play.
Amen,
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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2008, 01:17:58 AM » |
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Latest message: I'll have the board up shortly after 11 o'clock EST. I realize everyone is anxious for the board to be live again. Thank you for your patience. Gonna be a rough ride, folks. |
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roo_ster
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« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2008, 01:27:45 AM » |
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Oleg:
I suspect you are trying to clean up this mess as best as possible, but some thought as to preventing a like occurrence in the future might be in order.
I have a little IT experience and am moderately paranoid & sneaky, but APS member RevDisk seems to have the needle pegged on the IT, paranoid, & sneaky detectors. Might be a good resource to query on securing THR in the future.
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lee n. field
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« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2008, 01:38:54 AM » |
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Sent a bit your way. THR down and Freerepublic.com with a current database problem. <pout, pout>. Well, an Internet fast will do me good.  |
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« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2008, 01:41:56 AM » |
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Oleg,
I currently work for a pretty high powered hosting provider. While i doubt I could get you hosted for free or low cost where I work, I'd be more than happy to help out if you'd need it with manpower or advice. While i'm sure you're getting tons of offers, consider it one more.
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« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2008, 02:18:31 AM » |
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Well isn't this something.
I can't believe people would actually side with this Derek guy. Oleg, you've got my support. I may scrape up some money this week for the cause.
Since most of us only know a tiny piece of one side of the situation, it might be more believable if you knew something of the other side. Its hard to side with anyone in the absence of any real information. In any case, a rogue admin is a very dangerous situation for a web site. THR has a message saying it will be back up after 11 est. Its 1115 est and still not up. I wonder what the game is. |
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« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2008, 02:23:50 AM » |
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I'm again going to ask everyone to keep the speculation, name calling, etc., to a minimum, please. Well, when it comes to name calling, keep it to zero, please.
Absolutely do NOT post personal information for anyone involved in this matter anywhere on this board. Doing so will result in an instant and permanent ban.
As Oleg has stated, this appears to be going for litigation.
Anything that is said on this site, as it belongs to Oleg and was intended to be an adjunct to THR, could potentially affect any litigation. Please keep that in mind as you post.
Also, when THR comes back up, please do not go in there with a vengeance. Again, any activities there by members who have posted here could conceivably affect any litigation.
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« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2008, 02:25:40 AM » |
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Check sent.
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« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2008, 02:27:00 AM » |
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Also, when THR comes back up, please do not go in there with a vengeance. Again, any activities there by members who have posted here could conceivably affect any litigation.
I would say "just don't go in there." Nothing is louder than an empty room. |
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« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2008, 02:28:02 AM » |
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I would say "just don't go in there."
Nothing is louder than an empty room. I think that's a wise move. Just spectate quietly for now. No reason to go in making noises, get banned, all that silliness. Just watch from the sides for a while. Just gun talk and business as usual for now. |
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« Reply #73 on: September 25, 2008, 02:39:48 AM » |
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Back up...
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« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2008, 02:41:19 AM » |
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It's back. I read Derek's explanation, and also TheBluesMan was able to post an announcement opposing Derek, however it is now gone. I'm staying clear of THR.
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