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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #100 on: June 27, 2009, 02:21:14 PM »
Yeah, and the main problem with Cryonics is the thawing process, IIRC. The proteins break down and you turn to mush. Suffice to say, it may be a long time -if ever- that people can be frozen, thawed, and brought back to life.

Modern cryonics doesn't freeze people at all in the usual sense.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #101 on: June 27, 2009, 03:08:03 PM »
Oh freeze me nooottttt, in the laboratoryyyyyy....  :laugh:
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #102 on: June 27, 2009, 05:57:04 PM »
Michael is going to get a chilly reception.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2009, 09:22:06 PM »
Oh freeze me nooottttt, in the laboratoryyyyyy....  :laugh:

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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #104 on: June 27, 2009, 10:27:26 PM »
No, they're Moonwalking the coffin to the grave.

Quite funny, actually. Took me a few seconds to get it.

Got it.  Bit before my time.  Still funny though, now that I understand.

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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #105 on: June 28, 2009, 02:25:04 AM »
What's sad to me is that he managed to completely upstage Farrah.  She may have been a lightweight, but she knew it and ran with it.  And her fan base was far less creepy.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #106 on: June 28, 2009, 06:45:33 AM »
Modern cryonics doesn't freeze people at all in the usual sense.
Gotcha. I looked it up just now and they do indeed use a chemical to stop ice forming.

Freaky stuff.
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This dude holds the contrary opinion that post-J5 MJ wasn't all the great.



http://pajamasmedia.com/ronrosenbaum/2009/06/27/michael-jackson-wasnt-that-good-after-he-left-the-jackson-five/

Heresy: Michael Jackson Wasn’t That Good After He Left The Jackson Five

I know this is heresy, blasphemy to the gods of the publicity industrial complex who created and destroyed the later Michael Jackson.

But I’ve let a day pass since his awful death before saying this: after the completely wonderful Jackson Five era, Michael Jackson was no longer a very interesting singer, not after he left the collaborative genius of the J-5. He became known for his dancing (wow, the moonwalk, really memorable!), for his stupid costumes (what was with the whole militaristic thing? And was the glove really all that interesting or distinctive in any way?), for one or two good songs (”Human Nature” or whatever it was officially called) and “Thriller” wasn’t one of them. Come on, do you really think that novelty concoction is worth another listen ever? (Okay I liked “Billy Jean” even though I still misremember the key lyric as “the chair is not my love”)

Then after the success of his solo comeback, fueled by nostalgia and moonwalking eccentricity, he became known for being a celebrity, famous for being famous, then famous for his eccentricities. Eccentricities that were at first harmless (Bubbles the chimp, etc.), then famous for being weird (”Neverland” the boy-pals), famous for his grotesque plastic surgeries, then famous for being an accused child-molester, acquitted of criminal charges but never able to quit the children. Then he became famous for his famous associations–buying the Beatles catalog and doing that hideously sappy “The Girl is Mine”* with Paul McCartney,”marrying” Lisa Marie Presley, etc. Famous for his famously annoying sisters. Famous for anointing himself “King of Pop” when he no longer could produce a decent pop song. And yet the idiot pop media went along with it, He was the King of Trainwreck Celebrity.

But as for his music? Can you name a single post-”Thriller” song he did?

Sorry. He and the Jackson Five created something magical. “I’ll Be There” is an immortal love song, sublimely beautiful in its simplicity. I’ll remember him with gratitude for that and the rest of the J-5 hits, and try to forget the trainwreck he became.

But in the “moronic inferno” (h/t Martin Amis) of the media “mourning” let’s not forget the real tragedy, that he long ago ceased being a talent and gave in to being a mere celebrity, the sure road to ruin.

*thanks for reader correction.



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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #108 on: June 29, 2009, 11:09:33 AM »
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #109 on: June 29, 2009, 11:11:02 AM »
While I disagree to a significant degree.

What Mr. PJs fails to recognize is how effectively Jackson fused music and visuals and in large part invented the modern music video.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2009, 11:37:18 AM »
While I disagree to a significant degree.

What Mr. PJs fails to recognize is how effectively Jackson fused music and visuals and in large part invented the modern music video.

Which means he had good videos. Good videos != great music. Influential, sure. but not zomg musical genius.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #111 on: June 29, 2009, 12:07:48 PM »
sigh.

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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #112 on: June 29, 2009, 12:36:30 PM »
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #113 on: June 29, 2009, 12:56:43 PM »
You're right, it is.

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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #114 on: June 29, 2009, 01:20:44 PM »
FTR, I give MJ more credit than the guy who wrote the article.  Off the Wall & Thriller were something to write home about, even for someone like myself who despises most all pop music.

Nothing after Thriller was worth a hoot, IMO.

I do not automatically equate popularity/sales with quality.  If that were the case, McDonald's greaseburgers would be the best burgers on the planet.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #115 on: June 29, 2009, 01:25:08 PM »
I never got the MJ thing. I guess his weirdness just overpowered his talent for me.

The only song I remember of his is Billie Jean, just because it is kind of unusual in several ways.
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Re: Michael Jackson Dead
« Reply #116 on: July 02, 2009, 03:50:37 PM »
I think GraphJam has the best summary of this issue.



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