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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2009, 01:13:01 PM »

Unfortunately, our dogs recycle their own waste. I wish they didn't.

I'm so sick of hearing about what I can do to be green and save the planet that I just don't care anymore. I believe in sensible conservation, but I'm so tired of hearing about it. The media need to just shut up about it already.

If a dog has a big carbon footprint, just think about a child. Pretty soon the environmentalists will start calling people with children "Breeders" and stuff and saying we need to control the human population.

Oh, wait...
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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2009, 03:01:29 PM »

Speaking of crunchy tootsie roll treats in a litter box, I once knew a dog that enjoyed cleaning up after pigs on the farm.  I wouldn't let him lick me afterwards, but I guess he was at least an environmentally-friendly creature.   grin

I can go you one better than that.  grin

When we lived in logging camp and had an outhouse back in the trees, the huskie puppies would ... well, you don't want to know what they did, but I didn't have to dig a new hole for quite a while  shocked
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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2009, 03:04:40 PM »


We need another name for people who like self-reliance, alternate energy, conserving resources, etc. but as a choice, versus ramming the concept down people's throat in a regulatory and snooty "Prius owner" kind of way.


I think it used to be "smelly hippie".  Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2009, 03:43:37 PM »

Back at home our dogs liked to eat the horse poop sometimes,  cheesy I wonder how big of a carbon footprint a horse makes.
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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2009, 04:22:41 PM »

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Kelly Jeffery, a Paraparaumu german shepherd breederwho once owned a large SUV, said eliminating traditional pets was "over the top".

Rin Tin Tin, a retired German Shepherd cinematic "personality," said eliminating eco-architects would be a good start but difficult to achieve because they are mostly skinny little [bleeps] and not especially tasty, so there's little incentive to eat them.
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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2009, 04:23:49 PM »

I'm so sick of hearing about what I can do to be green and save the planet that I just don't care anymore.

I'm with you, except I never cared much in the first place.  Unless I become Amish or go live with an indigenous Amazon tribe, there will never be anything about my lifestyle that's even remotely environmental and, if you're reading this, yours either.

The bottom line is that I'm not willing to make those kinds of sacrifices.  I enjoy my modern, convenient lifestyle, and I'm not dense enough to believe that throwing a few cans and scraps of paper in a bin once a week will even slightly make up for it.  I know many people who live just as I do, who fill that silly bin once a week and feel gut-wrenchingly guilty about how they live..  rolleyes
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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2009, 05:15:18 PM »

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there will never be anything about my lifestyle that's even remotely environmental and, if you're reading this, yours either.

Easy, killer.

Some of us actually do a fair bit to recycle or otherwise keep that trash bin from overflowing each Thursday morning, whether mandated by municipality or a conservationist upbringing.

No need to denigrate us for that choice.

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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2009, 03:36:12 AM »

Some of us actually do a fair bit to recycle or otherwise keep that trash bin from overflowing each Thursday morning, whether mandated by municipality or a conservationist upbringing.

Perhaps I should have explained better that the people I am denigrating are the ones who use just as many resources as I do, but get on their high horse about being environmentally responsible when the ONLY thing they do about it is throw a few cans and newspapers in a 2' X 1.5' box once a week.
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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2009, 06:59:40 AM »

I meant my comment to poke fun at my own lack of flexibility.
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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2009, 08:27:45 AM »

What would be the point of replacing a pet that is not socially acceptable to eat with another that is?  We still wouldn't eat it.  Also, how many people stop with just one rabbit?  There would likely be more of them than the dogs and cats now.
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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2009, 09:16:08 AM »

So basically, if I make a donation to the dog pound for euthanasia, I 'm good to go on that new Hummer? Vexing situation for sure.
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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2009, 09:20:41 AM »

What would be the point of replacing a pet that is not socially acceptable to eat with another that is?  We still wouldn't eat it.  Also, how many people stop with just one rabbit?  There would likely be more of them than the dogs and cats now.
They don't even get that right. Dogs, cats etc = pets. Cows, chickens, pigs = yummy food.
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« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2009, 04:13:50 PM »

They don't even get that right. Dogs, cats etc = pets. Cows, chickens, pigs = yummy food.
But they are not even yummy food if they are made into pets.  Pets are pets.  They are not generally eaten by their owners.
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« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2009, 04:21:33 PM »

But they are not even yummy food if they are made into pets.  Pets are pets.  They are not generally eaten by their owners.
What's a little childhood trauma compared with saving the planet?  grin
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« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2009, 04:49:11 PM »

Maybe if we fed our dogs ethanol, we'd be more enviro-conscious.....


....either that....or stupid people...there seems to be a lot of those around lately....  grin
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2009, 07:12:09 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2009, 07:12:52 PM »

You find the best pictures, Harold.... cheesy
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« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2009, 07:13:51 AM »

Easy, killer.

Some of us actually do a fair bit to recycle or otherwise keep that trash bin from overflowing each Thursday morning, whether mandated by municipality or a conservationist upbringing.

No need to denigrate us for that choice.

I read something a while back that said the techniques used to reprocess recyclables into usable raw materials usually consume more resources than producing those same raw materials anew.  The reason was that we have much more/better capital infrastructure set up around producing new materials, and therefore the processes that produce the raw materials from scratch tend to be slightly more efficient in their use of resources.

It was interesting food for thought.  "Recycling is good" may not be as axiomatic as we all think it is.
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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2009, 07:28:54 AM »

Having been downwind from the rendering plant in Omaha, NE, I concur wholeheartedly.   undecided
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« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2009, 07:44:31 AM »

I have always found it interesting that the enviros push "recycle" the most from their mantra of "reduce, reuse, recycle". They actually have that in the right order regarding effective conservation of resources, but recycling gets all the advertising. Personally, I think it goes back to my Prius Owner theory that things like recycling are more "showy" of someone "doing something" so it's more popular than the other two.

I don't have the engineering background to give an expert opinion, but common sense seems to indicate to me that recycling things like certain paper, batteries, and some metals (like cash for clunkers cars) is going to create at least as much pollution and hazardous byproducts (maybe more) as producing them from scratch.
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« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2009, 09:03:01 AM »

Producing dogs from scratch isn't too difficult.  grin

Though some folks do prefer to get recycled dogs from the pound Wink
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« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2009, 09:48:31 AM »

PETA has a lot to answer for ...
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« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2009, 02:42:08 PM »

I trust my Golden Retreiver more than most of the non-family humans that I have interacted with.

I will not be eating or selling her too soon............

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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2009, 09:04:44 PM »

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  I'm not dense enough to believe that throwing a few cans and scraps of paper in a bin once a week will even slightly make up for it.  I know many people who live just as I do, who fill that silly bin once a week and feel gut-wrenchingly guilty about how they live.

I recycle all of my plastic, metal, and glass.  Either I run it down to the collectors for a little gas money, or I leave it in the alley "for the homeless". Wink  I don't do it out of guilt or for self-righteousness, but because it seems sensible.  It seems so normal that when I go somewhere where recycling bins aren't available I find myself carrying my containers home.
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« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2009, 04:04:59 PM »

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"A lot of people worry about having SUVs but they don't worry about having Alsatians and what we are saying is, well, maybe you should be because the environmental impact ... is comparable."

My dog has already put in a call to Cass Sunstein about a lawsuit.
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