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« on: February 03, 2010, 05:45:03 AM »

Quite a collection, some captioned some not. Some graphic.

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5299444691735051906
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 01:27:22 PM »

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5299168256805655826

What are those coffin-looking things lined up along the ridge?
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 02:23:24 PM »

tanks for napalm  Evil. Full or empty? I do not know. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 07:04:17 AM »


P-51 Fuel tanks I think.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 09:28:15 PM »



Those are expendable fuel drop tanks. They extended the range of the P-51 Mustang's for long-range over-water missions. They could launch from Iwo Jima, rendezvous over Japan with B-29's from Guam or the Tinian Islands, provide cover for bombing raids, maybe do some additional ground attacks, and then return to Iwo Jima - an eight hour plus mission over open ocean with little room for navigational errors, at the limits of endurance of man and machine.

When the pilots returned (if they returned) they got a few bottles of cold beer and maybe a shower. Then in the morning they got up and did it again.  My Dad was one of these guys.

The first land-based raid on the Japanese home islands, which were from Iwo Jima in April 1945, targeted military headquarters in Tokyo and a Mitsubishi factory in Nagoya that made engines for Zero fighters. My dad led a wing of fighters on the Nagoya mission.   Take that, Mitsubishi!

These missions came shortly after Iwo was officially secured. But right after the Mustang pilots arrived on Iwo Jima in March ‘45, they were targeted for assasination by a couple of hundred holdouts of the Japanese Imperial Army who had been holed up in their tunnel and cave system. One night they infiltrated through the marine lines and attacked the fighter pilot's bivouac area, slashing open tents with their swords  and tossing in grenades. They realized the fighter pilots were the highest-value targets on the island. In fact the entire objective of capturing Iwo was to provide a base of operations for fighters, as well as an emergency landing facility for damaged or low-on-fuel bombers.

This large-scale suicide attack, the last act of organized resistance on Iwo, is what this photo, and following ones, are about:

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5299444513572897634

After a pitched night battle all of the Japanese were dead. About 15 pilots were killed.  The Japanese bodies were thrown into a bomb crated and buried.  Among my Dad’s wartime memorabilia were photos showing the same bodies, the same body-filled crater, the same shot-up tents.

All the (surviving) pilots received the Air Medal for surviving the suicide attack and for participating in the historic April 7 mission.

Notice the pilots are all wearing shoulder holsters: 

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5299164423001573010

The standard issue sidearm for pilots was a stub-nosed .38 revolver. The idea was that a pilot, whose primary weapon was a fighter plane, wouldn’t feel totally unarmed if he was shot down, and might also have an option if he didn’t want to face being tortured to death by his captors.  After surviving the suicide attack, my Dad wanted something with more stopping power and traded his .38 revolver to a Marine for a .45 semi-automatic. I wish he had hung onto the .45.  He also aquired a US Army-issue machete which he did bring home with him.  All the time I was growing up, whenever we went camping, he wouldn’t lie down to go to sleep in a tent without that machete by his side.  PTSD?  You be the judge.


This photo shows a pilot being resuced by a sub:

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5435676087503544146

Close in to the Japanes home islands, subs would stand by at designated rendezvous points. Further out, PBY Catalina flying boats did the same.  If your plane was damaged, too low on fuel, or if you were badly wounded, you would rendezvous, ditch or bail out, and (hopefully) get picked up.


What else … the casualty rate from accidents. Notice how many plane crashes you see in these photos. Some were due to shot-up planes or wounded pilots but many were simply accidents. Overloaded takeoffs, landings made too hot.  P-51’s had twitchy ground handling.  Taildragger landing gear combined with rough and/or slippery landing surfaces, and 2000+ hp in something the weight of a heavy SUV.  Open the throttle too fast and the torque would flip it on its back. Brake too hard on landing, ground loop.

Enough rambling.  My Dad never talked much about his combat experiences but these are a few tidbits he mentioned before he passed away.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 03:35:42 AM »

Excellent info, thanks for that. Thanks to your dad too,

welcome to APS, has anyone told you about the new guy buying the beer and ammo yet?  grin
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 06:06:07 AM »

Thanks for the pics DonTron.

I paid attention to the names painted on the P-51's.  My favorite is "Is this trip necessary?"  cheesy

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5435681479758034306
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 10:29:02 AM »

Those pic's really put Iwo Jima into perspective. Thanks fellas!
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 01:30:23 PM »

It's amazing to me that General "Mickey" Moore is in his own fighter and going on the same attack runs as his men!  Are there any generals that would do that today?
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 01:49:20 PM »

Thanks for the pics DonTron.

I paid attention to the names painted on the P-51's.  My favorite is "Is this trip necessary?"  cheesy

http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5435681479758034306

An understandable sentiment, given the state of his landing gear.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 05:17:28 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 09:04:03 AM »

Those are great pics.  I wondered where the dead bodies came from.  I think the post above was reversed, stand on the brakes and nose over onto your back, too much power and you ground loop.  Don't ask me about how I know about the ground loop part......chris3
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 01:22:56 PM »

It's amazing to me that General "Mickey" Moore is in his own fighter and going on the same attack runs as his men!  Are there any generals that would do that today?

Would they even be allowed to?
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