Author Topic: The Incredibles; Atlas Shrugged for children (Read 15012 times)

Zundfolge · « **on:** March 20, 2005, 01:14:39 PM »

Just watched Pixar's The Incredibles last night and couldn't help but see Atlas Shrugged in the subtext.

Clearly Disney has zero control over the content of a Pixar film (which is good since Disney always comes down on the side of "the looters"). I wonder if any of the similar themes from both The Incredibles and Atlas Shrugged are beginning to resonate with people ... especially young people.

After I made my observation, I found the following article (so clearly I'm not the only one who sees the ghost of Ayn Rand lurking in The Incredibles).

http://www.objectivistcenter.org/articles/dkelley_rff-the-incredibles.asp

brimic · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2005, 02:29:42 PM »

Excellent. We just bought that movie for our son, but we haven't watched it yet.

jamz · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2005, 02:30:46 PM »

Interestingly, we watched it Friday. Great movie.

Love, James

MaterDei · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2005, 04:04:29 PM »

Excellent movie.

When was the last time we've seen an animated movie with an intact family? Seriously, when?

The entitlement society is ridiculed as is the litigious nature of society.

Excellent movie.

mtnbkr · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:32:45 AM »

MILD SPOILER WARNING

We watched it for the 2nd time last night. Two things caught my attention. First was the repeated theme regarding the idea that "everyone was special". It was pointed out that if everyone is special, nobody is (later rephrased as "once everyone is 'super' nobody will be". Second, the mother told the kids at one point that the bad guys weren't like the bad guys on their Saturday morning cartoons. They wouldn't practice restraint because they were kids, the bad guys would kill them if given the chance. So they needed to protect themselves.

Chris

SMLE · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2005, 08:20:15 AM »

Interesting. I just saw the movie on Friday. I wasn't really looking for any objectivism, but I did note the "if everyone is special, nobody is" line.

jamz · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2005, 08:37:05 AM »

All good messages. I'll watch it a few more times with my kids.

Love, James

pbhome71 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2005, 10:06:27 AM »

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They wouldn't practice restraint because they were kids, the bad guys would kill them if given the chance. So they needed to protect themselves.

I noticed that too. Pretty interesting.

Sean Smith · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:03:59 AM »

The only problem with comparing The Incredibles to Atlas Shrugged is that Brad Bird, unlike Ayn Rand, can write something entertaining.

Gus Dddysgrl · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:51:55 AM »

I love that movie. Jon and I bough tit the day it came out. If you have it you must go to the extras and watch the Jack Jack Attack video. It's great. I didn't notice the Atlas Shrugged part, but definitely liked the comments that mtnbkr mentioned.

Great movie. can't wait to take it to my parents house so the whole family can watch it together.

Gus

Phantom Warrior · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:09:11 PM »

One of my favorite parts is where Mr. Incredible grabs Syndrome's assistant and threatens to choke her. Afterwards she's talking with Syndrome and she says something like, "Carring about human life isn't a weakness. And disregard for it isn't a strength." I thought that was pretty profound. But yeah, this movie rules.

brimic · « **Reply #11 on:** March 22, 2005, 04:07:20 AM »

Watched it last night. I liked the humor in the movie, the characters seemed believeable- spouses always arguing, kids fighting eachother.

My favorite character was Frozone, cool in every sense of the word. Cheesy

Indy7373 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2005, 04:24:13 AM »

"Woman, you tell me where my supersuit is!!!"

Loved that scene.

Sean Smith · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2005, 04:29:00 AM »

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Suicide Jumper: Oww. I think you broke something.
Mr. Incredible: Well, with counselling I think you'll come to forgive me.

mtnbkr · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2005, 05:36:05 AM »

My wife like's Frozone's wife's line about her being his "greater good". Cheesy

I about died when Dash said his sister would be hungry for dinner if they were serving "tonyloaf" (instead of meatloaf). Tony was her crush in case you missed it...

Bomb Voyage talking trash to Buddy in french was amusing too.

The entire movie rocked. Cheesy

Chris

Nightfall · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2005, 10:14:48 AM »

Watched it last night. Loved it. The whole movie had a great style, with great characters.

jamz · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2005, 05:12:59 PM »

NO CAPES!!!!!1

Love, James

doczinn · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2005, 07:50:01 PM »

I opened this thread, then saw the movie before reading any posts. Loved it. The "everyone is special" thing is one of my pet peeves.

Stickjockey · « **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2005, 08:59:47 PM »

Good evening, everyone.
This is the jockeys wife.
The Incredibles, is a wonderful movie. I first saw it with my sister, and we laughed untill we cried. Edna Mode is the quintessential Designer. I also loved the comment about the Supermodels.
But, I digress.
Isn't it a small step from going from The Incredibles to X-Men.
We at first honor the gifted and great. But soon come to fear and hate them, because of the same gifts.
Just a thought.
Melissa

Cool Hand Luke 22:36 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 24, 2005, 05:04:39 AM »

Pixar & Lucas films owns Disney creatively, and will own them in a physical sense before too long. Eisner has trashed that company and should have been given the boot years ago.

K Frame · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:14:25 AM »

Everyone IS special, folks.

In their own pathetic way...

Greg Levy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:47:13 PM »

Deep thoughts indeed, Jocky's wife...

Here's an even deeper one:

Edna Mode was done by one of the MALE producers...he was just reading the voice in one of their meetings while they looked for an actress, and he was drafted on the spot!

I greatly enjoyed the movie, but, completly missed the objectivism...I did like the digs at litigation though

greg

Sean Smith · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2005, 04:16:17 AM »

Edna Mode's voice was that of the director, Brad Bird.

atek3 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:51:30 AM »

Edna Mode had the funniest lines in the movie. The best was

"spoiler"

when they were in edna's inner sanctum and she does the retinal scan and voice print analysis.
"Edna Mode" *gun turrets pop down* "Plus one"

that was some funny stuff

atek3

Glock Glockler · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2005, 12:36:08 PM »

Great Movie! Plenty of Atlas Shrugged in there but like Sean said, the Incredibles was actually good:D

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Author Topic: The Incredibles; Atlas Shrugged for children (Read 15012 times)

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