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« on: November 10, 2010, 11:33:13 AM »

Hot 20-something woman only person singled out for nekkid-scan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGvsAgpfig

Flight Attendants (mostly women) protest new procedures:
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/lifestyle/travel/flight-attendants-union-upset-over-new-pat-down-procedures

Pilots seriously oppose:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=7774593

TSA pats down breasts, crotches:
http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/2010-10-29-tsa-pat-downs_N.htm

TSA Says they don't molest anyone:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-no-fondling-groping-or-squeezing-is-taking-place-at-airports.html



AZ says:  I'm not flying.  I won't put up with an HOA, let alone draconian dick-head crap like this.  I always walk away from heavily policed authoritarian inspection stations.  Seems more and more people are getting fed up.

I hope the Tea Party candidates that won office take a good look at the Patriot Act, DHS and the TSA in the next 2 years.

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2010, 11:51:00 AM »

But AZ, these measures are for your safety. And the inspectors are wearing cool blue nitrile gloves, so what's to worry?

Seriously, the inspectors I've dealt with recently have been courteous and professional. Still irks me to go through all the screening crap while contemplating all of our other virtually unguarded vulnerabilties.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 12:05:57 PM »

But AZ, these measures are for your safety. And the inspectors are wearing cool blue nitrile gloves, so what's to worry?

Seriously, the inspectors I've dealt with recently have been courteous and professional. Still irks me to go through all the screening crap while contemplating all of our other virtually unguarded vulnerabilties.

SADShooter, it is just a security show to put the cattle public at ease.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2010, 12:22:54 PM »

Mooo, er, thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2010, 12:33:54 PM »

Neither my wife or I will ever fly again.  I refuse to be treated like this.  Vote with your money, if no one is flying, the airlines will demand the TSA change their policies.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2010, 12:44:43 PM »

I have to fly periodically for work, but no longer do so for non-work purposes.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2010, 12:45:54 PM »

Neither my wife or I will ever fly again.  I refuse to be treated like this.  Vote with your money, if no one is flying, the airlines will demand the TSA change their policies.
As an airline employee, I have no complaint with that approach.

I avoid the TSA whenever I can. I can't stand that organization.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 01:47:16 PM »


Screw this.  I'm not flying.  And I'm writing my newly elected Congresscritter and carefully explaining that I'm not voting at the future, as well as encourage others to give their money and votes to someone else, if this agency is not decimated or completely eliminated.  It is more of a threat to the United States than any terrorist organization. 

I encourage others here to do the same. 

Someone once told me a good argument about the limitations of government was to ask someone the following question.  "Would it be acceptable for a government to sexually assault someone?"   Today, we are faced with that question.  It's not theoretical, or a "one off" incident.  Does the US government have the right to sexually assault hundreds of American citizens each and every day?
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 01:47:22 PM »

I was wondering when the revolt would begin. 

Two things to watch for.  First, look for stories regarding vested interests by security bureaucrats in the companies that manufacture whole body scanners.   Second, look for stories about excessive radiation exposure for those who use the scanners. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 02:09:52 PM »

Screw this.  I'm not flying.  And I'm writing my newly elected Congresscritter and carefully explaining that I'm not voting at the future, as well as encourage others to give their money and votes to someone else, if this agency is not decimated or completely eliminated.  It is more of a threat to the United States than any terrorist organization. 

I encourage others here to do the same. 

Someone once told me a good argument about the limitations of government was to ask someone the following question.  "Would it be acceptable for a government to sexually assault someone?"   Today, we are faced with that question.  It's not theoretical, or a "one off" incident.  Does the US government have the right to sexually assault hundreds of American citizens each and every day?

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 04:41:57 PM »

Offer to "split the fuel cost" with a private pilot if he "just happens" to be flying in the general direction you want to go.  angel
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2010, 05:23:50 PM »

I was wondering when the revolt would begin. 

Two things to watch for.  First, look for stories regarding vested interests by security bureaucrats in the companies that manufacture whole body scanners.   Second, look for stories about excessive radiation exposure for those who use the scanners. 

Remember, Senators, Congressmen, and the bureaucrats have exempted themselves from insider trading laws.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2010, 06:30:23 PM »

Remember that they are not satisfied with ruining air travel...the DHS wants to control EVERYTHING. Remember that they want to mount backscatter xray machines on trucks and look in your house...


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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2010, 08:01:23 PM »

Meanwhile all the dangerous stuff is being loaded into the cargo bays of your aircraft by illegal aliens er, undocumented workers er..islamic fanatic tribalist despots family oriented people who have traveled thousands of miles on foot who only want to work jobs Americans don't want, with very little scrutiny.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2010, 09:01:16 PM »

Remember, Senators, Congressmen, and the bureaucrats have exempted themselves from insider trading laws.

Remember that they are not satisfied with ruining air travel...the DHS wants to control EVERYTHING. Remember that they want to mount backscatter xray machines on trucks and look in your house...


Remember, Remember the 5th of November...
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2010, 09:48:57 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2010, 09:51:21 PM »

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I hope the Tea Party candidates that won office take a good look at the Patriot Act, DHS and the TSA in the next 2 years.
And when they do, I hope they won't like what they see.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2010, 03:00:24 AM »

Meanwhile all the dangerous stuff is being loaded into the cargo bays of your aircraft by illegal aliens er, undocumented workers er..islamic fanatic tribalist despots gang-related individuals family oriented people who have traveled thousands of miles on foot who only want to work jobs Americans don't want, with very little scrutiny.

Missed one....


Wonder how the higher-level TSA types would react if some of their personal info (including peeping-tom pics) ended up spread out on the Internet?.....
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2010, 06:40:37 AM »

Missed one....


Wonder how the higher-level TSA types would react if some of their personal info (including peeping-tom pics) ended up spread out on the Internet?.....

Add Senators, congresscritters, and other high-ranking .gov officials, because sadly, that will likely be the only way they would step in. Until Nancy Pelosi gets the boob squeezing procedure mentioned in the video, this is for the good of Americans. Why do you hate it? Are you anti-American?
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2010, 07:11:29 AM »

Remember, Remember the 5th of November...

So, you wanna draw, hang, and quarter those responsible?  I'm in, as long as we give them the opportunity to jump from a height to break their neck before the festivities begin.

Or blow the whole deal to Hades?

Frankly, I consider them traitors (and worthy of a traitor's end) rather than myself a revolutionary.  No good reason to ruin such beautiful neoclassical architecture, as the foundations are worthy.  It is the white and black trash additions that are not up to code that must go.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2010, 07:38:37 AM »

Frankly, I consider them traitors (and worthy of a traitor's end) rather than myself a revolutionary.  No good reason to ruin such beautiful neoclassical architecture, as the foundations are worthy.  It is the white and black trash additions that are not up to code that must go.

Bingo.  I've met extremely view people that want to overthrow America or whatnot.  Everyone, and I mean everyone, is pissed at the US government to varying degrees.

When we've gotten to the point that US government employees are allowed and required to commit sexual assault on a daily basis, the individuals doing so are the problem and a threat to their country.  Any person willing to do such things should never be allowed to be a government employee, nor be put in any position of trust.  Yet such individuals who voluntarily demonstrate that they are unworthy of trust are "trusted" with the security of our country? 
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2010, 07:44:43 AM »

Think they would let you fly if you wore Zed's outfit with flip flops?

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2010, 04:48:26 PM »

TSA is union, man!  Solidarity!!!  Stand against the commoner!!  Death to freedom!!  Long live the Cube!!!
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2010, 07:41:41 AM »

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"We spend my child's whole life telling him that only mom, dad and a doctor can touch you in your private area, and now we have to add TSA agent and that's just wrong," he told Reuters. "At some point the terrorists have won."

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AA55S20101111

The man's right. When we are so crippled by fear that we can excuse children being molested in front of their parents and being necessary the terrorists have won.

Seriously what happened to those sniffer machines that blew air on you to detect explosives. I went through one at LAX in '04 IIRC, and that was a breeze. Like a metal detector only you have to stand there for a couple of seconds longer and you get a nice cool blast of air that hits you for a second. They had them 6 years ago, why can't they bring those back in force, it would save our dignity and the TSA a lot of controversy.  Sometimes I seriously think that some folks in to gov just sit around all day and think "What can we get away with today?"
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2010, 08:13:41 AM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AA55S20101111

The man's right. When we are so crippled by fear that we can excuse children being molested in front of their parents and being necessary the terrorists have won.

Seriously what happened to those sniffer machines that blew air on you to detect explosives. I went through one at LAX in '04 IIRC, and that was a breeze. Like a metal detector only you have to stand there for a couple of seconds longer and you get a nice cool blast of air that hits you for a second. They had them 6 years ago, why can't they bring those back in force, it would save our dignity and the TSA a lot of controversy.  Sometimes I seriously think that some folks in to gov just sit around all day and think "What can we get away with today?"

IIRC they were all pulled from service, since they found that the units were unreliable.

Ah yes here it is: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/21/Airport-bomb-detector-system-scrapped/UPI-32061242921540/

Again Security Theater Show for the public.
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