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« Reply #125 on: November 16, 2010, 10:55:55 AM »

TSA procurement specifications require the ability to transmit and/or save said images.  TSA promises they are not using the features they require.

Well, I can't imagine that they would lie about that, do you ...?

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« Reply #126 on: November 16, 2010, 11:50:27 AM »

As much as most of you hate NJ and bash everything about it. Here is my state rep in action. (and he shoots too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9HNEtrvEE
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« Reply #127 on: November 16, 2010, 12:33:12 PM »

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Pat-Down-at-Airport-Too-Up-Close-Too-Personal/81u8F_uhYkeLo_pg3NHWWA.cspx

Another source for the 2nd person mentioned in the infowars story. Not going for the first, radio DJ, makes a living blowing things out of proportion, pretty much pics or it didn't happen territory for me.

There oughta be a Godwin like law for use of Newsmanx, WND, MSNBC, or Alex Jones links.

The veracity of the "news" outlets does little to change the fact about how utterly corrupt and un-American the TSA is.
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« Reply #128 on: November 16, 2010, 12:33:27 PM »

Whether or not the machines can save the pictures, any idiot with a cellphone camera can make a copy.  They just have to get a clear picture of the screen.

I bet it's already been done.
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« Reply #129 on: November 16, 2010, 02:17:17 PM »

Whether or not the machines can save the pictures, any idiot with a cellphone camera can make a copy.  They just have to get a clear picture of the screen.

I bet it's already been done.

But it's against the law to take pictures of the scanner screen!

stay safe.
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« Reply #130 on: November 16, 2010, 02:27:22 PM »

us marshalls at a courthouse does not equal tsa  i don't care how loud alex jones says it
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« Reply #131 on: November 16, 2010, 02:30:45 PM »

The story is perfectly consistent with past reports.  That said, I'll wait for more reliable outlets to confirm the story before I start writing letters.  IF THE STORY IS TRUE, we are looking at a deliberate provocation.  Not even fed.gov can be that stupid by concluding there will be no pushback.
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« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2010, 02:55:14 PM »

Ya know, the backscatter images from the Gizmodo video certainly didn't look all that detailed to me.  Huh?
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« Reply #133 on: November 16, 2010, 03:10:04 PM »

Ya know, the backscatter images from the Gizmodo video certainly didn't look all that detailed to me.  Huh?

Neither do our spy sat pictures that we give out to other people. There is such a thing as derezzing a picture or video.
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« Reply #134 on: November 16, 2010, 03:10:32 PM »

Ya know, the backscatter images from the Gizmodo video certainly didn't look all that detailed to me.  Huh?

They admit that.

But if you read the article...

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A Gizmodo investigation has revealed 100 of the photographs saved by the Gen 2 millimeter wave scanner from Brijot Imaging Systems, Inc., obtained by a FOIA request after it was recently revealed that U.S. Marshals operating the machine in the Orlando, Florida courthouse had improperly-perhaps illegally-saved images of the scans of public servants and private citizens.

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While the fidelity of the scans from this machine are of surprisingly low resolution, especially compared to the higher resolution "naked scanners" using the potentially harmful x-ray backscatter technology, the TSA and other government agencies have repeatedly touted the quality of "Advanced Imaging Technology" while simultaneously assuring customers that operators "cannot store, print, transmit or save the image, and the image."
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« Reply #135 on: November 16, 2010, 03:49:22 PM »



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« Reply #136 on: November 16, 2010, 04:53:27 PM »

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« Reply #137 on: November 16, 2010, 05:03:00 PM »

us marshalls at a courthouse does not equal tsa  i don't care how loud alex jones says it
Yeah, they are probably much more qualified and more ethical. 
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« Reply #138 on: November 16, 2010, 05:22:47 PM »

us marshalls at a courthouse does not equal tsa  i don't care how loud alex jones says it


That makes it okay, then.
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« Reply #139 on: November 16, 2010, 06:06:03 PM »

If this keeps up, won't people just stop flying, to the point that airlines pressure TSA to be less Ultraviolet* with the searching?

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_%28film%29

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« Reply #140 on: November 16, 2010, 06:27:52 PM »

If this keeps up, won't people just stop flying, to the point that airlines pressure TSA to be less Ultraviolet* with the searching?

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_%28film%29


Actually, it's more Total Recall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWIHv7a6luY
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« Reply #141 on: November 16, 2010, 07:17:08 PM »

the proper response is for passengers to go zardoz in their travelling wear
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« Reply #142 on: November 16, 2010, 07:21:17 PM »

Perhaps the way to fight back is to ridicule the TSA monkey.  Psychological warfare:  "You must have the crappiest job in the world, handling people's balls all day.  How do you keep from just shooting yourself in the mornings?"  And of course, "Who's your daddy?"  (Use your imagination for other more degrading things to say to turn the tables on the halfwit who is trying to humilate *you*)

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« Reply #143 on: November 16, 2010, 07:49:50 PM »

the proper response is for passengers to go zardoz in their travelling wear

Taking it to the logical extreme, I suspect that flying cross country wearing nothing but a TSA-issued Tyvek suit is not all that far off.
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« Reply #144 on: November 16, 2010, 07:59:26 PM »

Wonder what would happen if you ID'd the TSA goons' cars and started putting Pedo-Bear stickers on them at random times.....
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« Reply #145 on: November 16, 2010, 08:00:21 PM »

Wonder what would happen if you ID'd the TSA goons' cars and started putting Pedo-Bear stickers on them at random times.....

You, sir, are evil.  I like that.
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« Reply #146 on: November 16, 2010, 08:03:51 PM »

Considering some of the local gals working at our bases when Viet Nam was a big deal could smuggle out a 40mm HEDP round for a M79/M203 up their love canal, the only way to be sure no 'splosives get on a plane is a cavity search, "Deep, and hard."

FTR, I'm fairly certain a 40mmHEDP round going off in the cabin is going to bring down anything smaller than a jumbo jet.

Scratch that, even a cavity search will not find 'splosives that have been placed in the large intestine similar to the way a colonoscopy is performed.  No telling how much 'splosive one could store in the large intestine along with a radio receiver and detonator.
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« Reply #147 on: November 16, 2010, 08:14:08 PM »

some one should show up with the tyvek suit over a borat thong and disrobe for the TSA
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« Reply #148 on: November 16, 2010, 08:30:51 PM »

At some point a risk/benefit assessment needs to be done.

Obviously we cannot secure ourselves against EVERY eventuality. No, no, no, we cannot. It's not possible.

Somewhere, in the near future, a person - maybe not even a terrorist - is going to smuggle something into a plane. A gun, a knife, something. Then there's going to be mucho media whining about HOW THAT WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

Somewhere, eventually, someone will commit a terrorist attack on a plane.  Maybe they will do it by smuggling weaponry on board. Maybe they will place an anti-aircraft landmine [these DO exist] near the runway. Maybe they will do a million other things. Maybe we will get lucky on that day and only one or two people will die. Maybe hundreds. I do not know.

Somewhere, one of two things will need to happen:

Either people - or a subgroup thereof - will put their foot down and decide that they'd rather live with, say, 1% annualized chance of a terrorist attack than sacrifice more liberty and property and prosperity to try and bring it down further.

Or the surveillance state will expand forever, and the terrorists would have won.
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« Reply #149 on: November 16, 2010, 08:58:34 PM »

The Soviet's bankrupted themselves trying to keep pace with and ensure their security against us during the Cold War. The various violent Islamic groups are now doing the exact same thing to us, but for a whole lot cheaper on their end of the deal.
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