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« Reply #775 on: September 23, 2012, 05:06:44 AM »

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« Reply #776 on: September 23, 2012, 06:53:29 AM »

"You have some skill with a blade."

"The women of this country learned long ago, those without swords can still die upon them."
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« Reply #777 on: September 23, 2012, 04:20:58 PM »

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« Reply #778 on: September 24, 2012, 07:34:02 AM »

"You have some skill with a blade."

"The women of this country learned long ago, those without swords can still die upon them."

Best LOTR quote  smiley
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« Reply #779 on: September 24, 2012, 11:29:50 AM »

Best LOTR quote  smiley

Best meaningful quote.

"Shall I describe it to you? Or would you like me to find you a box?"

...is my favorite.
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« Reply #780 on: September 24, 2012, 11:34:05 AM »

"You have some skill with a blade."

"The women of this country learned long ago, those without swords can still die upon them."

"If you want him, come and claim him!"

Always makes me think "Molon Labe!"

The prominence of Arwen in Jackson's LoTR was an unexpected and not unwelcome alteration to the original tale.  Glorfindel wouldn't have been nearly as intriguing as a hot she-elf with the will to go toe-to-toe with The Nine.
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« Reply #781 on: September 24, 2012, 11:39:13 AM »

Best LOTR quote  smiley

Just re-watched the trilogy this weekend. Smiley
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« Reply #782 on: September 24, 2012, 12:30:45 PM »

Best LOTR quote  smiley

Witch King of Angmar "Fool. No man can kill me..."
Eowyn: "I am no man..."
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« Reply #783 on: September 24, 2012, 06:57:21 PM »

Witch King of Angmar "Fool. No man can kill me..."
Eowyn: "I am no man..."

So annoyed by that scene. The book's version would have been FAR better.

In the movie she was afraid. She was seeking death. In the book when he threatened her, she laughed at him and then delivered that line, before the fight. Not after she had him at her mercy.

Completely messed up her character. (And made her weaker, in fact.)
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« Reply #784 on: September 24, 2012, 08:02:08 PM »

Annoyed? Really?

She was not seeking death, nor was she afraid. Resigned to a certain fate, perhaps. (As she commented on, before) She realized, after Meriadoc stabbed him with a blade of the west, that she could perhaps kill him. It was a leap of faith, and a moment of certainty.

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« Reply #785 on: September 24, 2012, 08:53:54 PM »

Annoyed? Really?

She was not seeking death, nor was she afraid. Resigned to a certain fate, perhaps. (As she commented on, before) She realized, after Meriadoc stabbed him with a blade of the west, that she could perhaps kill him. It was a leap of faith, and a moment of certainty.



It's been a while since I read the books, but I'm pretty sure she was seaking "death and glory" on the battlefield.  She couldn't get Aragorn, and so figured that was her best shot at renown.  Being resigned to a fate would have seen her follow Theoden's order to return to Meduseld and take up the throne after his death.  A fate she saw as just managing the remenants of a failed kingdom until the death blow from Mordor finally came.
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« Reply #786 on: September 24, 2012, 09:04:04 PM »

"Leave me alone, snake!"

"Oh, but you are alone.  Who knows what words you've spoken to the darkness.  In the bitter watches of the night, when all your life seems to shrink, the walls of your bower closing in about you, a hutch to trammel some wild thing in?  So fair, yet so cold, like the morning's pale spring still clinging to Winter's chill."

"Your words are poison!"
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« Reply #787 on: September 25, 2012, 03:56:28 AM »

Annoyed? Really?

She was not seeking death, nor was she afraid. Resigned to a certain fate, perhaps. (As she commented on, before) She realized, after Meriadoc stabbed him with a blade of the west, that she could perhaps kill him. It was a leap of faith, and a moment of certainty.

And you are commenting on the movie. The book made it clear she was explicitly seeking death. Merry even comments on it while they are riding to Gondor. When at Gondor, the Nazgul landed and tried to threaten her for being to stupid as to attack him for no living man could kill him.

She laughs in his face, removes her helmet and delivers "But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. ╔owyn I am, ╔omundĺs daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him." The Witch King of Angmar is the one who is afraid even if just for a moment as he now has doubt.

The movie version made her weak and afraid while fighting him. She should have been (effectively) a viking woman, a valkyrie of types. She gloried in battle. In the movie, she only taunted him when he was about to die. Yeah, still a good line, but the entire context and importance of the line is lost.

When she awakes inside of Gondor, she is depressed because she didn't die. (And because Aragorn chose Arwen and not her, which is why she wanted to die in the first place.)
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« Reply #788 on: September 25, 2012, 05:43:05 AM »

NERD FIGHT !!!!!

 Tongue Tongue Tongue
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« Reply #789 on: September 25, 2012, 05:51:28 AM »



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« Reply #790 on: September 25, 2012, 11:16:17 AM »

NERD FIGHT !!!!!

 Tongue Tongue Tongue

The best kind!
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« Reply #791 on: September 26, 2012, 07:32:25 PM »

 

Ok, I'm going to read the book again. Haven't read the books since the first movie. Not conceding the win. I'm bypassing it.

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« Reply #792 on: September 26, 2012, 07:42:09 PM »

Well, a old TV show not a movie but I thought it pithy;
"Never trust a purring tiger."  ~~ Efrem Zimbalist Jr. as Inspector Lewis Erskine in THE F.B.I.  1967.
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« Reply #793 on: September 26, 2012, 08:47:08 PM »

Our arrows will block out the sun.

Then we shall fight in the shade!
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« Reply #794 on: September 27, 2012, 03:48:41 AM »

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.
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« Reply #795 on: October 04, 2012, 03:29:32 PM »

"Donĺt touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldnĺt understand things with alloys and compositions and things withů molecular structures."
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« Reply #796 on: October 04, 2012, 06:13:43 PM »

"Donĺt touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldnĺt understand things with alloys and compositions and things withů molecular structures."

Groovy!
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« Reply #797 on: October 04, 2012, 08:08:15 PM »

And you are commenting on the movie. The book made it clear she was explicitly seeking death. Merry even comments on it while they are riding to Gondor. When at Gondor, the Nazgul landed and tried to threaten her for being to stupid as to attack him for no living man could kill him.

She laughs in his face, removes her helmet and delivers "But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. ╔owyn I am, ╔omundĺs daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him." The Witch King of Angmar is the one who is afraid even if just for a moment as he now has doubt.

The movie version made her weak and afraid while fighting him. She should have been (effectively) a viking woman, a valkyrie of types. She gloried in battle. In the movie, she only taunted him when he was about to die. Yeah, still a good line, but the entire context and importance of the line is lost.

When she awakes inside of Gondor, she is depressed because she didn't die. (And because Aragorn chose Arwen and not her, which is why she wanted to die in the first place.)
It is tough to make that work when they use CGI to make these huge super strong bad guys with 500 lb maces or giant swords. 
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« Reply #798 on: October 12, 2012, 10:12:42 PM »

"I told you not to look into the light."
"Yeah, right."
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« Reply #799 on: October 12, 2012, 10:13:07 PM »

I don't know much about boats, but I'd say that one's upside down.
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