Zimmerman Free on Bond

[Perd Hapley]

I still couldn't find any confession of criminal activity.  Quote, pls.

Yeah, I don't see it, either. I found what DeSelby's quoting, and I can see why he's taking it that way. But he's jumping to conclusions.

They do a year and dont ever open their mouth to get my *expletive deleted* pinched

Is that a confession that he deserved to get "pinched" and let an innocent take his punishment? No. It could mean his "boys" had a chance to scapegoat him for something they did, and they didn't.

[De Selby]

I still couldn't find any confession of criminal activity.  Quote, pls.

It was this part

I can hit my boy up to handle a lil somethin with my sister...They do a year and  dont ever open their mouth to get my *expletive deleted* pinched

That's slang for his friends doing prison time without informing on him, which in his words would have gotten him prison time "pinched.".  It's unambiguous that he thinks had his friends opened their mouths during their year, he'd have joined them.

Fistful, there's no reasonable way to interpret that as Zimmerman being happy that "his boys" didn't make up lies about him to get him thrown in jail.   The only reasonable conclusion is that he considers them great friends because they didn't talk to the police when doing so would have gotten him pinched.

[Jamisjockey]

It was this part
That's slang for his friends doing prison time without informing on him, which in his words would have gotten him prison time "pinched.".  It's unambiguous that he thinks had his friends opened their mouths during their year, he'd have joined them.

Fistful, there's no reasonable way to interpret that as Zimmerman being happy that "his boys" didn't make up lies about him to get him thrown in jail.   The only reasonable conclusion is that he considers them great friends because they didn't talk to the police when doing so would have gotten him pinched.

 

You're assuming a lot.  Reaching desperately.  Pathetic.

[Perd Hapley]

Fistful, there's no reasonable way to interpret that as Zimmerman being happy that "his boys" didn't make up lies about him to get him thrown in jail.   The only reasonable conclusion is that he considers them great friends because they didn't talk to the police when doing so would have gotten him pinched.

No, there's no reasonable way they could tell lies about him to make him appear guilty of something he didn't do. NBC did it, but there's no way anybody else could. It could never happen.


And even if your assumption is correct, it still doesn't show that his friends are doing his time for him, as you alleged. They could be equally or even more guilty of whatever the crime is supposed to be.

Well, bragging about beating the two charges on the same page where you brag about other people doing jail time so you dont get pinched ...

[Perd Hapley]

De Selby,

FWIW, I think most of us agree that the page puts Z in a bad light. And I would agree that his comments probably (but not necessarily) mean that he skated on a charge (of which he was guilty) because his friends didn't implicate him. I'm just not jumping to conclusions.

[TommyGunn]

What are you trying to say?? I'm smartier then those worser writers!!

What makes you think you're any betterer than anyone else?

[makattak]

It's from 2005? As in SEVEN YEARS AGO? Making him about 20 at the time of the posts? Wow, that's such condemning evidence.

Even if every single assumption you are making is true, it is still completely possible that in the intervening years he has become a more responsible person. The fact that his neighbors asked him to join the neighborhood watch (and possible head the neighborhood watch) suggests to me that he may very well be a well-respected member of their community.

And I will admit I am in the tank for Zimmerman now. The attempted lynching in the media has really earned him a GREAT DEAL of benefit of the doubt from me. 7 year old references to possible crimes from 7 or 8 years ago? Not going to sway me to join the lynch mob.

[Perd Hapley]

I will admit I am in the tank for Zimmerman now. The attempted lynching in the media has really earned him a GREAT DEAL of benefit of the doubt from me.

Shouldn't we all be hoping that Zimmerman's actions turn out to have been justified? Because if he was in the wrong, what happened that night is much more tragic.

[makattak]

Shouldn't we all be hoping that Zimmerman's actions turn out to have been justified? Because if he was in the wrong, what happened that night is much more tragic.

I am hoping that. It's just going to take a significant amount of evidence to convince me it wasn't justified given the actions of the press and the blood-sucking lawyer for the Martin family.

(Meaning not that I hope he gets off even if he was in the wrong but that it's going to take a lot of evidence to convince me he was in the wrong.)

[Tallpine]

the page puts Z in a bad light

But that was before he turned his life around        

[HankB]

Shouldn't we all be hoping that Zimmerman's actions turn out to have been justified? Because if he was in the wrong, what happened that night is much more tragic.

If some compelling evidence (credible witness, security video, conclusive forensic evidence, etc.) surfaces proving that Zimmerman attacked Martin - that is, that HE initiated violence by hitting, kicking, or grabbing Martin - whatever good will he currently has will evaporate in a matter of minutes.

[Jamie B]

Shouldn't we all be hoping that Zimmerman's actions turn out to have been justified? Because if he was in the wrong, what happened that night is much more tragic.

Yes, we should do just that.
From a SD standpoint, it would be extremely helpful.

Too many are jumping to conclusions.
Sadly, DeSelby and most of the MSM have already passed judgement by skewing their judgement to match their opinions.

What I see from the rest of gun community here is a very tempered wait and see attitude.
I respect this kind of common sense, and the openness to pass judgement upon the release of more accurate evidence.

[Perd Hapley]

Yes, we should do just that.
From a SD standpoint, it would be extremely helpful.

From most anyone's standpoint, really. If an innocent young man died because someone started a fight he didn't want, that's terrible. If Zimmerman killed him in self-defense, it might still be terrible, but at least Martin died for his own misdeeds.

[birdman]

Has anyone felt there has been a dramatic reduction in MSM time on this topic in the past week or two?

[Perd Hapley]

Has anyone felt there has been a dramatic reduction in MSM time on this topic in the past week or two?

Oh come on. We have the tanning mom now. Try to keep up.

[gunsmith]

Oh come on. We have the tanning mom now. Try to keep up.

She's guilty I hate her!

[seeker_two]

If Zimmerman shoots the Tanning Mom, would his charges be dismissed?....