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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #375 on: April 19, 2013, 08:58:07 PM »
So riddle me this, why is this terrorism, but fort hood wasn't?

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #376 on: April 19, 2013, 09:01:05 PM »
Because when it was labeled terrorism the labeler thought a white guy did it.

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #377 on: April 19, 2013, 09:06:53 PM »
Because when it was labeled terrorism the labeler thought a white guy did it.

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #378 on: April 19, 2013, 09:08:34 PM »
And he's in custody.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #379 on: April 19, 2013, 09:15:49 PM »
Question asked in front of the idiot tube just now...

Will this be a Federal prosecution case, or will the state of Massachusetts have a swing at it?

I said Federal, because of the FBI's involvement, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #380 on: April 19, 2013, 09:24:48 PM »
if no state lines have been crossed, what makes this different than a standard murder case that would make it federal?
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #381 on: April 19, 2013, 09:28:06 PM »
He would get life without the possibility of parole in MA, for 3 or 4 counts of murder.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #382 on: April 19, 2013, 09:30:16 PM »
if no state lines have been crossed, what makes this different than a standard murder case that would make it federal?

Terrorism as a crime.  Instant federal. 

Because when it was labeled terrorism the labeler thought a white guy did it.
And he's in custody.

So is Hassan.  Both are US citizens, both committed acts of terrorism.

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #383 on: April 19, 2013, 09:30:31 PM »
Doesn't terrorism fall under the feds jurisdiction?
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #384 on: April 19, 2013, 09:30:45 PM »
That is awesome that they took him alive. We need to know where his other bombs are, who he's working with. Get the waterboard ready!


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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #385 on: April 19, 2013, 09:31:24 PM »
if no state lines have been crossed, what makes this different than a standard murder case that would make it federal?

My understanding is that something about the use of explosives ups the ante to federal levels.  And labeling it terrorism.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #386 on: April 19, 2013, 09:31:45 PM »
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it wasn't Sunil Tripathi.   [tinfoil]
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #387 on: April 19, 2013, 09:39:20 PM »
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it wasn't Sunil Tripathi.   [tinfoil]
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #388 on: April 19, 2013, 09:48:43 PM »
Excerpt from the live coverage

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #389 on: April 19, 2013, 10:11:10 PM »
Btw, I think you mean "Madrassa.". Madras is a fabric.

Madras is also a town in Oregon.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #391 on: April 19, 2013, 10:30:07 PM »
Because when it was labeled terrorism the labeler thought a white guy did it.

Well, technically he is Caucasian.

As in from the Caucasus region.

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #392 on: April 19, 2013, 10:31:00 PM »
I'm glad they caught this Joker  ;)
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #393 on: April 19, 2013, 10:47:19 PM »
Madras is also a town in Oregon.

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #394 on: April 19, 2013, 11:06:01 PM »
Pretty ill already with all the facebook right wing ranting about martial law and trampled rights. Yes, the town was locked down, yes house searches were made. I don't see the reports of pet dogs getting shot, citizens curb stomped or herded to secret camps. Yes the para-military show was in full swing today. But have you seen how Russians fight Chechens? You got doods unknown running around with proven workable bombs and shooting first it is a little out of the realm of our libertarian peace officer/B. Fife ideal. Sure I'd love to shoot a terrorist, but if you live there what are you going to do? Patrol your yard with your AR-15 and shiny p-mags? I'm sure the cops will instantly recognize you as the great samaritan from the land of internet and let you carry on. Or, considering they were concerned with offing plainclothes cops, they might just react really negatively to an unknown with a gun. So, I'm guessing you would play the lockdown game unless random Chechen tried to take over your house.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #395 on: April 19, 2013, 11:08:02 PM »
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But have you seen how Russians fight Chechens?

Hell, Putin is liable to raze the town they were originally from just because of the negative light it has shone on the motherland!!!


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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #396 on: April 19, 2013, 11:23:43 PM »
Pretty ill already with all the facebook right wing ranting about martial law and trampled rights. Yes, the town was locked down, yes house searches were made. I don't see the reports of pet dogs getting shot, citizens curb stomped or herded to secret camps. Yes the para-military show was in full swing today. But have you seen how Russians fight Chechens? You got doods unknown running around with proven workable bombs and shooting first it is a little out of the realm of our libertarian peace officer/B. Fife ideal. Sure I'd love to shoot a terrorist, but if you live there what are you going to do? Patrol your yard with your AR-15 and shiny p-mags? I'm sure the cops will instantly recognize you as the great samaritan from the land of internet and let you carry on. Or, considering they were concerned with offing plainclothes cops, they might just react really negatively to an unknown with a gun. So, I'm guessing you would play the lockdown game unless random Chechen tried to take over your house.

I would hide indoors (armed) whether they told me to or not.  =|  Nobody's getting inside (cop or Chechian) without a major battle, but it's the dogs they have to worry about more than me. 

I would ask them for a warrant if they wanna come in the house, but would not interfere under the circumstances when they barged in without one.  If I don't at least ask for a warrant, it's like inviting a vampire in.
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #397 on: April 19, 2013, 11:43:51 PM »
As would I.

I know they were looking for the remaining bomber, but one still must ask if the end ALWAYS justifies the means. The Constitution and all that...
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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #398 on: April 20, 2013, 01:03:10 AM »
I highly doubt they were kicking down doors in the search like certain folk imagine so. Or violating the 3rd amendment.  :rofl: Seriously the tinfoil mad hatters are getting on my nerves about as much as the *expletive deleted* hippies.

More likely like this, as posted by a LEO on another forum

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I've done door to door searches before (though not like this), and you end up with one of the following at any given house:

1. No one answers, no signs of forced entry. You check the outside of the house for the BG or signs of activity, move on.

2. No one answers, signs of forced entry or a door open. You go in and clear the house. Why? Because you are looking for a dangerous person, they could have a hostage inside.

3. Someone home, they answer the door. You talk to them. If you find it plausible that they could be harboring the BG, you request permission to come in and look. If they refuse, you have to decide if you have PC to get a warrant, or the exigent circumstances to bypass one.

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Re: Two explosions close to the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
« Reply #399 on: April 20, 2013, 01:52:38 AM »
I can imagine some futuristic Libertarian solution where all the grandma's and school kids had hawg-legs strapped on every day, and just had shot the bombers, and 10mm is a "ladies caliber", like some damn L. Neil Smith novel. And the bomber bros. would have been Swiss Cheese last night.

That said, this crap plays out in the world we have, not the one we want.

From a fair-minded realistic perspective, can anyone even begin to imagine the absolute *expletive deleted*it-storm and blame that would ensue if the guy had been holding some family hostage in suburban Boston for days, or had shot them, or blown them up?  :P

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