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Obama and the IRS
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:33:23 AM »
Just a few random observations on this whole story:

1) Their idea of "doing something" is firing the guy in charge of the IRS who not only already resigned, but didn't even start the job until well after the audit targeting was in full swing. Shouldn't Obama then fire himself for all the stuff he claims Bush did before he (Obama) took office?

2) The comparisons (and supporting data) to Nixon shenanigans by a fairly wide spectrum of ideologies  puts a grin on my face.

3) Sadly, this is yet another issue taking away from the Benghazi atrocity. It's a serious issue, but nobody died.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/16/obama-to-meet-with-treasury-officials-over-irs-scandal/
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 10:09:05 AM »
Boehner asked a good question: Who's going to jail?

If there are no criminal prosecutions for the admitted targeting of groups for political reasons, then the Democrats will be shown to be completely corrupt and the GOP will be proven ineffectual . . . at best.  =(
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 10:18:03 AM »
I got a laugh about this listening to Rush the other day. While all of these conservative groups were having their tax-exempt status approvals held up, a pro-Obama group run by Obama's half-brother had his approved. Not just approved, but the IRS actually made his approval retroactive two years prior so that he wouldn't face criminal penalties for collecting donations for two years under the false pretense of those donations being tax exempt when in fact he hadn't filed for tax exempt status.

No favoritism with this administration.

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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 10:53:54 AM »
I got a laugh about this listening to Rush the other day. While all of these conservative groups were having their tax-exempt status approvals held up, a pro-Obama group run by Obama's half-brother had his approved. Not just approved, but the IRS actually made his approval retroactive two years prior so that he wouldn't face criminal penalties for collecting donations for two years under the false pretense of those donations being tax exempt when in fact he hadn't filed for tax exempt status.

No favoritism with this administration.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 11:30:56 AM »
Boehner asked a good question: Who's going to jail?

If there are no criminal prosecutions for the admitted targeting of groups for political reasons, then the Democrats will be shown to be completely corrupt and the GOP will be proven ineffectual . . . at best.  =(
I think every individual that so much as had a document of this incident cross his desk without at least speaking up, should be summarily fired and forever barred from working in any government position of public trust.  They have proven they cannot be trusted and the citizens' trust and confidence in the government and the IRS (which already has an image problem) is of extreme importance given the continuous stream of scandals of this administration and the slowest economic recovery in the history of the USA.  JMHO, however.

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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 12:30:03 PM »
"We can't comment on an active investigation", even though the agency to blame has already publicly acknowledged, and APOLOGIZED FOR, the offenses.

Theatre of the Absurd at it's most laughable.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 07:20:13 PM »
"We can't comment on an active investigation", even though the agency to blame has already publicly acknowledged, and APOLOGIZED FOR, the offenses.

Theatre of the Absurd at it's most laughable.
Very true, SADShooter.  However, the vast majority of the people in this country either do not care or are not paying attention.  Just watch.  I'm betting it will all blow over and be nothing more than a dim memory.  Just like Fast and Furious did.    :mad:

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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 07:31:43 PM »
Very true, SADShooter.  However, the vast majority of the people in this country either do not care or are not paying attention.  Just watch.  I'm betting it will all blow over and be nothing more than a dim memory.  Just like Fast and Furious did.    :mad:

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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 08:23:58 PM »
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 08:29:39 PM »
Given the opportunity they would still vote for him. :facepalm:

sadly i think many would :facepalm:
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 09:44:03 PM »
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 11:41:50 PM »


Now that just about nails it. I guess it must be that laser-like focus on jobs...
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2013, 02:43:02 AM »
Now that just about nails it. I guess it must be that laser-like focus on jobs...

The President/Administration's own?
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2013, 06:58:01 AM »
Obama and his various scandals has elevated tinfoil-hattery to the status of high fashion.  Yesterday it came out that the question kicking off this whole flap was planted. 

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/17/lerners-admission-was-pre-planned-public-disclosure/

The lady 'fessing up to slow walking conservative application for tax exempt status had a buddy ask the question.  The effect is that of malefactor blowing the whistle on himself.

Now why would Obama do that?  Options include limited hangout, controlled deflation, bright shiny distraction to something else, or the traditional red herring.  Punditry has the entire weekend to noodle it out.  First attempt I've read is a bright, shiny distraction to the emerging immigration "reform" bill.  We'll see.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 12:50:23 PM »
:facepalm: We sooooooooooooooooooooooo need a tongue-in-cheek smilie!!!! ;)

That would quite possibly be the first smilie that couldn't pass the language filter.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 03:47:54 PM »
Obama and his various scandals has elevated tinfoil-hattery to the status of high fashion. 

When a conspiracy is confirmed, it is no longer a "tinfoil hatter conspiracy," but mere reality.

IRS
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All fact, not theory. 
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2013, 04:00:04 PM »
Bubbling up: HHS Sec Sebelius shaking down soliciting "donations" from corporations to support Obamacare.

Yhe real slackers seem to be the Cabinet Secretaries who "don't" have a scandal/investigation underway.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2013, 06:08:47 PM »
Obama and his various scandals has elevated tinfoil-hattery to the status of high fashion.  Yesterday it came out that the question kicking off this whole flap was planted. 

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/17/lerners-admission-was-pre-planned-public-disclosure/

The lady 'fessing up to slow walking conservative application for tax exempt status had a buddy ask the question.  The effect is that of malefactor blowing the whistle on himself.

Now why would Obama do that?  Options include limited hangout, controlled deflation, bright shiny distraction to something else, or the traditional red herring.  Punditry has the entire weekend to noodle it out.  First attempt I've read is a bright, shiny distraction to the emerging immigration "reform" bill.  We'll see.

No, the hope was that it would simply be ignored and lost in the background noise.  LOOK BENGHAZI !!!
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2013, 09:43:16 AM »
Bubbling up: HHS Sec Sebelius shaking down soliciting "donations" from corporations to support Obamacare.

Yhe real slackers seem to be the Cabinet Secretaries who "don't" have a scandal/investigation underway.
"Nice little insurance company ya got there.  Be a real shame if something were to happen to it...  But really, the reason I called is to ask for your support for my <snip>"?

RICO charges are in order.  If we don't put a stop to this behavior, we'll be a third world country, requiring cumshaw for all government interactions.  Time for heads on the pikes.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2013, 12:43:57 PM »
"Nice little insurance company ya got there.  Be a real shame if something were to happen to it...  But really, the reason I called is to ask for your support for my <snip>"?

RICO charges are in order.  If we don't put a stop to this behavior, we'll be a third world country, requiring cumshaw for all government interactions.  Time for heads on the pikes.

I'm so surprised.  I would never have expected anything like this from a Chicago politician that became president.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2013, 08:43:20 AM »
The IRS thing bothers me because in my opinion it reflects partisan activities connected to the White House.  They probably can't prove it.  But I know it was the case.

Benghazi....  I'm fed up.  It was election time and the White House and his Party conspired to control the release of information, public opinion and reduce impact to the election.

Look what we're finding out about the AP business....  it saddens me.  It was an all out power grab and win at any cost effort moving toward the November 2012 election. 

I think if the truth is known, Obama would be put out of office.  I feel that his administration and Party is so corrupt and power hungry that it makes me sick to even think about it.  Where's the trust?   It was all about the election and win at any cost.  He won and look what we're finding out.  His supporters think this is all okay... that's the big difference between many Republicans and Democrats.  The Republicans have a conscious. This country is going to he-ll.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2013, 10:54:35 AM »
You know, as shocking as this all is, we shouldn't be surprised.

Obama's term in office began with blatant tyranny.

The Obama administration subverted bankruptcy laws to reward their Union supporters. THAT should have had everyone screaming for impeachment. I don't care if you like the unions and hate the bondholders, that was a complete undermining of the rule of law.

They decided, from the very beginning, that there is no equal standing before the law. If you're one of our constituencies, it doesn't matter if the law if against you- we'll ignore it.

All we seeing is the other side. If you're opposed to us, it doesn't matter if the law is for you- we ignore it then, too.


Edit: autocorrect doesn't catch "The" instead of "They"...
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2013, 11:10:58 AM »
You know, as shocking as this all is, we shouldn't be surprised.

Obama's term in office began with blatant tyranny.

The Obama administration subverted bankruptcy laws to reward their Union supporters. THAT should have had everyone screaming for impeachment. I don't care if you like the unions and hate the bondholders, that was a complete undermining of the rule of law.

The decided, from the very beginning, that there is no equal standing before the law. If you're one of our constituencies, it doesn't matter if the law if against you- we'll ignore it.

All we seeing is the other side. If you're opposed to us, it doesn't matter if the law is for you- we ignore it then, too.

My guess is that History will state that the US constitutional republic died a long time before now.
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Re: Obama and the IRS
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2013, 12:29:55 PM »
You know, as shocking as this all is, we shouldn't be surprised.

Obama's term in office began with blatant tyranny.

The Obama administration subverted bankruptcy laws to reward their Union supporters. THAT should have had everyone screaming for impeachment. I don't care if you like the unions and hate the bondholders, that was a complete undermining of the rule of law.

They decided, from the very beginning, that there is no equal standing before the law. If you're one of our constituencies, it doesn't matter if the law if against you- we'll ignore it.

All we seeing is the other side. If you're opposed to us, it doesn't matter if the law is for you- we ignore it then, too.


Edit: autocorrect doesn't catch "The" instead of "They"...

You're ight, of course. The repercussions of the auto bailout didn't resonate with "mainstream America" because "OMG! Blue-collar manufacturing jobs!" is a bit more visceral than "What? Screwing the GM bondholders? A fundamental violation of contract law!". Combine the message with a willing messenger in the complicit/sycophantic media, and here we are.

Now we learn about more investigation of journalists-this time at Fox. In 2010. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-admin-spied-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html

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