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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #425 on: July 16, 2013, 12:36:07 PM »
The federal/DOJ lynch mob might have some problems getting the verdict they want:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/15/trayvon-martins-family-has-little-chance-for-recou/

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Montre Carodine, a law professor at the University of Alabama Law School who specializes in U.S. race relations, says the burden of proof in a federal hate crime prosecution would require the Justice Department to show that Mr. Zimmerman killed Trayvon because of his race, and that such a standard is “higher than what state prosecutors were unable to prove in a second-degree murder case.”

IIRC, I remember reading that Zimmerman grew up with two foster siblings that were black.  He also volunteered as a mentor of two black teenagers, in a really bad part of town.  He also went all Don Quixote against the Sanford Police Dept after the beating of a homeless black man by the son a SPD officer.  


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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #426 on: July 16, 2013, 12:45:35 PM »
If .gov argues that Zimmerman shot Martin because the latter was black, I can see the defense asking "So . . . if a white hispanic person were beating the snot out of Zimmerman, breaking his nose and pounding his head against the concrete, you're saying Zimmerman would have held his fire and absorbed the ground-and-pound beating to avoid harming a white hispanic? He only shot to defend himself because his attacker was black?"
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #427 on: July 16, 2013, 01:49:55 PM »
So here's the real question:
If the DOJ, run by a black man, who's boss is also black, declines to press any kind of federal charges, will the race baiters shut the *expletive deleted*ck up finally?  Arguably the two most powerful black men in the world, I might add. 
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #428 on: July 16, 2013, 01:55:02 PM »
So here's the real question:
If the DOJ, run by a black man, who's boss is also black, declines to press any kind of federal charges, will the race baiters shut the *expletive deleted* up finally?  Arguably the two most powerful black men in the world, I might add. 

Nope. Too much money in it for them to give up their cash cow.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #429 on: July 16, 2013, 02:39:02 PM »
Second, some idiot just said that there needs to be a law that requires half of the jury to be the same race as the victim.  Think that will work next time a white person is the victim,  and blacks are excluded fromnthe jury pool...

Judged not by the color of their skin but the content of their character... What's the rest of that again?
So here's the real question:
If the DOJ, run by a black man, who's boss is also black, declines to press any kind of federal charges, will the race baiters shut the *expletive deleted* up finally?  Arguably the two most powerful black men in the world, I might add. 

Fail, we'll just declare them not really black enough.


I'm wondering if Zimmerman has enough meat for a lawsuit of his own against everyone for false arrest. When you have the original police and DA not hauling him in it should be a pretty clear shot that he was a political prisoner. Then there is the former police chief and the It guy, I hope everyone who pressed this case home gets hammered.

The rioting mob of incomplete thought is not demanding justice for Trayvon, they are demanding injustice for Zimmerman. If he had been found guilty I would have took it as further proof you don't go to court to get justice, I have to be exceedingly careful about what I consider self defense, and that the fix was obviously in. Short of griping on APS I don't see myself rioting because a court didn't deliver the right verdict. All the Jamie Foxx types are crying that the fix was in from the start when it is obvious that they only ever saw one outcome.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #430 on: July 16, 2013, 02:57:21 PM »
The news keeps referring to Martin as "unarmed." Apparently, if people have weapons, it's OK to shoot them. We should all start carrying throw-downs.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #431 on: July 16, 2013, 02:59:54 PM »
He had arms damnit
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #432 on: July 16, 2013, 03:05:34 PM »
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #433 on: July 16, 2013, 03:07:14 PM »
Another question. Is "he shouldn't have gotten out of the car," a little like, "she shouldn't have been dressed like that, in that neighborhood"?
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #434 on: July 16, 2013, 03:15:40 PM »
Another question. Is "he shouldn't have gotten out of the car," a little like, "she shouldn't have been dressed like that, in that neighborhood"?

I have silenced a few people on another board I frequent who are using the logic that GZ should have stayed in his car, and this would have never happened, by stating if TM had stayed home on that dark, rainy night, none of this would have happened. Funny, but, I haven't gotten a single reply to that yet.  ???

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #435 on: July 16, 2013, 03:48:23 PM »
Here is an amazing article from huffingtonpost... [barf] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/6-decisions-trayvon_n_3600690.html
At least most of the commentators are tearing it apart.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #436 on: July 16, 2013, 04:58:52 PM »
A friend posted this on FB today:

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4, count em, FOUR people on the planet, and Cain goes and kills Abel. It's not a race thing, it's a people thing.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #437 on: July 16, 2013, 05:04:04 PM »
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FOUR people on the planet, and Cain goes and kills Abel. It's not a race thing, it's a people thing

Did Abel jump out of the bushes and knock Cain down and start beating him  ???
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #438 on: July 16, 2013, 05:12:38 PM »
Did Abel jump out of the bushes and knock Cain down and start beating him  ???

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #439 on: July 16, 2013, 05:16:58 PM »
It's getting worse and worse  :facepalm:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/16/holder-wades-deeper-into-zimmerman-battle-calls-for-review-stand-your-ground/

My god - what kind of a bizarro world did I walk into  ???


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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #440 on: July 16, 2013, 05:24:55 PM »

My god - what kind of a bizarro world did I walk into  ???

Apparently the kind where the concept of self defense is "senseless".

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it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods," Holder said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/16/holder-wades-deeper-into-zimmerman-battle-calls-for-review-stand-your-ground/#ixzz2ZFJx54di
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #441 on: July 16, 2013, 05:25:50 PM »
I guess when you're giving machine guns to Mexican drug lords I can see why you'd worry that Americans being able to shoot back could lead to dangerous conflicts.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #442 on: July 16, 2013, 06:07:09 PM »
If I didn't know better I'd almost think they are trying to provoke states into standing up and telling the feds to FOAD.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #443 on: July 16, 2013, 06:36:52 PM »
Holder can say all he wants.  State law issue.  Unless he's ready to do what my step-grandmother has been predicting this administration would do, declare the USA to be the First American Empire, and declarenall state laws void to be replaced by the Imperial Code, then he can have a nice day and go away.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #444 on: July 16, 2013, 07:00:17 PM »
I thougt Bush was going to do that ???
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #445 on: July 16, 2013, 07:05:27 PM »
Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #446 on: July 16, 2013, 07:08:17 PM »
What a lovely 'shop. Totally conducive to the racial healing in these troubled times.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #447 on: July 16, 2013, 07:19:08 PM »
 :rofl:

Wanna talk about cundice to the racial healing in these troubled times? An associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Department of Religious Studies thinks God is a white racist. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/16/upenn-professor-goes-on-blog-rant-over-zimmerman-verdict-claims-god-is-white/?intcmp=trending
Apparently she is as much an associate professor, what is different between an associate professor and a professor?, of religious studies as Obama is on Constitutional law.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #448 on: July 16, 2013, 07:58:07 PM »
At least the picture is humorous, in its own particular, race-baiting way.

As someone said earlier, about Obama, the left is not the least bit interested in racial harmony. They only want more hatred and division.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #449 on: July 16, 2013, 08:04:05 PM »
Holder can say all he wants.  State law issue.  Unless he's ready to do what my step-grandmother has been predicting this administration would do, declare the USA to be the First American Empire, and declarenall state laws void to be replaced by the Imperial Code, then he can have a nice day and go away.

I think that the Obama Junta already think that's the way it is.
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