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Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« on: October 08, 2013, 02:31:36 PM »
http://www.newburyportnews.com/local/x1442580373/Gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-Yellowstone

Yes, that's right.

Shutting down the parks, the Xanterra PRIVATE hotels included.  Not just asking people to leave... holding them under ARMED GUARD and prohibiting them from leaving until the Gestapo say you are now allowed to leave.

Dangerous, holding people under false arrest.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 03:15:09 PM »
When recreating is outlawed, only outlaws will recreate.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 03:32:24 PM »
I hope they sue the *expletive deleted*it out of those scumbags. Sounds like unlawful detention to me, but then, the government can pretty much get away with a lot of stuff we'd go to jail for.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 03:37:58 PM »
Quote from: Sergeant Bob on October 08, 2013, 03:32:24 PM
I hope they sue the *expletive deleted* out of those scumbags. Sounds like unlawful detention to me, but then, the government can pretty much get away with a lot of stuff we'd go to jail for.

I guess that they figured that a bunch of foreign senior citizens visiting the USSA wouldn't fight back ....   ;/
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 03:38:05 PM »
Bullies certainly like to pick on the weak don't they?
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2013, 04:33:36 PM »
That line is getting very close.

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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2013, 04:42:50 PM »
who is head of nps?  someone particularly obamactive?
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2013, 10:06:33 PM »
Why don't they just use the local sheriffs to lock up the park service guys on false arrest or whatever charges?
After all they are still in a given state and thats states laws apply.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2013, 10:14:51 PM »
I gotta wonder how close we are to a park ranger needing to shoot some illegal recreater in one of the closed national King's Parks.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2013, 10:19:24 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on October 08, 2013, 10:14:51 PM
I gotta wonder how close we are to a park ranger needing to shoot some illegal recreater in one of the closed national King's Parks.

The king's deer indeed. They want a challenge, close national forest and BLM to hunters. Screw the debt ceiling, the end of October will be way more entertaining then.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2013, 10:28:12 PM »
Folks, revolution has been bred out of the American population.  Bitching and moaning however, is still doable.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 10:30:50 PM »
It's already bow season here. Haven't heard of any hunting areas closed yet. (I had heard that the local COE lake had locked off the unattended boat ramps but I've since seen that is not the case.)

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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 11:00:02 PM »
Quote from: never_retreat on October 08, 2013, 10:06:33 PM
Why don't they just use the local sheriffs to lock up the park service guys on false arrest or whatever charges?
After all they are still in a given state and thats states laws apply.


This. Very much this.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 11:35:10 PM »
Quote from: never_retreat on October 08, 2013, 10:06:33 PM
Why don't they just use the local sheriffs to lock up the park service guys on false arrest or whatever charges?
After all they are still in a given state and thats states laws apply.


It would be interesting. A Northern CA Sheriff did something similar (some months before this current nonsense) after a National Forest LEO kept busting people on bogus firearms charges. I haven't looked into it since I first read about it, but the Sheriff basically forbade the Forest Service from exercising LEO functions in his county.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 11:57:13 PM »
"Officer, unless you are going to shoot me and a bunch of elderly tourists, on camera, for taking pictures go ahead and FOAD. We'll be back on the road in a minute."

Then film her reaction. [popcorn]
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 09:07:12 AM »
Quote from: dogmush on October 08, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
"Officer, unless you are going to shoot me and a bunch of elderly tourists, on camera, for taking pictures go ahead and FOAD. We'll be back on the road in a minute."

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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 09:53:34 AM »
Several of those detained were from Japan & other nations. There may be some international blowback as well...

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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 10:03:15 AM »
Quote from: seeker_two on October 09, 2013, 09:53:34 AM
Several of those detained were from Japan & other nations. There may be some international blowback as well...

If so, it will be interesting to see which direction the blowback blows.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 01:03:32 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 09, 2013, 09:07:12 AM
Would have to be a feisty American in the group the Asians? Never. The Europeans doubtful.

 Like the Asian who ran over a bunch of thugs on bikes? Most Asians are very polite and considerate people. I also think their sense of family trumps their sense of PC behavior, and that if and when they perceive a real threat they are not going to hesitate. Remember the Koreans in LA a few years back?
 
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2013, 04:21:52 PM »
Quote from: tokugawa on October 09, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
Like the Asian who ran over a bunch of thugs on bikes? Most Asians are very polite and considerate people. I also think their sense of family trumps their sense of PC behavior, and that if and when they perceive a real threat they are not going to hesitate. Remember the Koreans in LA a few years back?
 

Sorry, but he is merely of Asian extraction.  Not folks who live in various/sundry countries comprising Asia.  Like comparing apples and ourangatans.

And it really does not matter how outraged/traumatized or not the individual tourist was - what matters is how outraged/traumatized their government feels.

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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2013, 05:30:53 PM »
Were the Chinese conducting a final inspection of their latest property acquisition?
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2013, 05:36:46 PM »
Quote from: Waitone on October 09, 2013, 05:30:53 PM
Were the Chinese conducting a final inspection of their latest property acquisition?

not sure we should ask
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2013, 08:08:32 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 09, 2013, 09:07:12 AM
Would have to be a feisty American in the group the Asians? Never. The Europeans doubtful.


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Plus, in all likelihood they would be reluctant to commit to civil disobedience in a foreign country. I know I would be hesitant to do so on someone else's turf.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2013, 11:55:40 PM »
I was actually thinking the tour guide should be fiesty.
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Re: Yellowstone: Locked IN THE HOTEL UNDER ARMED GUARD over shutdown
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 09:12:30 AM »
Quote from: dogmush on October 09, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
I was actually thinking the tour guide should be fiesty.

Probably getting minimum wage to haul around a bunch of tourists and answer the same questions over and over and over. 

I don't think so.
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