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Re: Improper search
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2013, 04:38:37 PM »
Seriously. What were the people involved thinking? Did the doctors not think they'd lose their medical licenses? Why didn't a nurse pick up a phone and call the legal department or administration? While the cops know they have immunity, you would think that as human beings they might consider what they were doing as wrong. Warrantless invasive surgical practices should NOT be the line in the sand they crossed, but it's a fairly blatant one.

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Re: Improper search
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2013, 11:51:58 PM »
The solution to this type of problem is simple, economical and readily available. Evil prevails because we continue to let it.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2013, 09:44:50 AM »
The solution to this type of problem is simple, economical and readily available. Evil prevails because we continue to let it.

Significant difference between outrage and bombast from a keyboard and actually doing something.


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Re: Improper search
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2013, 10:47:07 AM »
The interesting thing was how far they pushed it- a freaking colonoscopy can have deadly consequences- the just could not admit they had made a mistake- actually,he was lucky it was done with the Doc's there-other wise they WOULD have "found" some drugs.


Perforated colons and sepsis are no fun. I have personal experience with the "sepsis" part, and have signed the consent form for colonoscopy three times (yes, it does mention "perforated colon"). I hope he didn't sign a consent form.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2013, 11:27:31 AM »
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/11/william-norman-grigg/politely-stand-up-for-your-rights/

I guess this becomes a non-event after LRC and Grigg report it  ;/
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2013, 11:27:32 AM »
And a pattern emerges...  http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.UnqbGxBnAy5

Same scenario, same drug dog alerts on the seat of the car.  Cops get a warrant and the guy is violated in the same way at the same medical center, nothing is found.
This also mentions the drug dog is required to recertify every year and had an expired certification.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2013, 07:38:58 PM »
And a pattern emerges...  http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.UnqbGxBnAy5

Same scenario, same drug dog alerts on the seat of the car.  Cops get a warrant and the guy is violated in the same way at the same medical center, nothing is found.

Coincidence.

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Re: Improper search
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2013, 07:47:32 PM »
Coincidence.

Nothing to see here, move along ... move along.

Just another isolated incident  ;)
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2013, 08:31:20 PM »
And a pattern emerges...  http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.UnqbGxBnAy5

Same scenario, same drug dog alerts on the seat of the car.  Cops get a warrant and the guy is violated in the same way at the same medical center, nothing is found.

It doesn't mention who the officers were in this "Isolated Incident" but, I'd say that department needs some serious looking into and offenders jailed, especially those at the top who allow such BS to go on.

Could say a lot, but I'll just boil it down to this: Were someone to face trial for taking the law into their own hands after this kind of mistreatment, I would dearly love to be on the jury.

Save me a seat. :mad:
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2013, 03:49:33 PM »
I'd be very interested to see how that unnamed officer who asserted the suspect had a history of hiding things in his anal cavity works out.  David Eckert? Ohhh, I thought we were talking about Dave Edwards!  Oh ho ho, honest mistake.    :police:
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2013, 04:06:19 PM »
And yet another reason to wonder why we don't see more killdozer type events.

'Dorner' is the new killdozer.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2013, 04:07:14 PM »
'Dorner' is the new killdozer.

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Re: Improper search
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2013, 10:03:40 AM »
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The irony is strong in this one.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2013, 11:30:15 AM »
No one said hero. But that kind of event; someone with a grudge against Law enforcement/ gov going off with a few weapons and targeting the avatar of their angst is much more likely to be common then a killdozer. If only because of the lower capitol investment needed.

In some cases it's even understandable. Not condoning it mind you, but I could understand it.

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« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2013, 11:34:27 AM »
No one said hero. But that kind of event; someone with a grudge against Law enforcement/ gov going off with a few weapons and targeting the avatar of their angst is much more likely to be common then a killdozer. If only because of the lower capitol investment needed.

In some cases it's even understandable. Not condoning it mind you, but I could understand it.

i can too
i could even condone hunting someone who did you a real wrong.  someone who guns down a guys kid and her fiancee?!  different folks have different moral standards i guess. and i've never considered mine to be very high but they are too high for that
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2013, 11:42:50 AM »
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But that kind of event; someone with a grudge against Law enforcement/ gov going off with a few weapons and targeting the avatar of their angst

You mean like the recent LAX shooting? I think we can expect more such poorly-directed blowback by the less-well-adjusted in the future.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2013, 02:50:23 PM »
i can too
i could even condone hunting someone who did you a real wrong.  someone who guns down a guys kid and her fiancee?!  different folks have different moral standards i guess. and i've never considered mine to be very high but they are too high for that

FTR, that "kid"was an adult, not a 13YO toting an airsoft.

Still an innocent party used as a tool in Dorner's revenge plan, but at least Dorner got positive ID before opening fire.  Which is more than the local yokels can claim.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2013, 07:09:07 PM »
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2013, 09:36:09 PM »
I have to wonder what judge/magistrate would authorize an invasive search on that affidavit.  There's not a judge I've ever worked with who would authorize an invasive search on that crap.  But, I work in Ohio, where judges are elected, and this crap would cost you an election when it got out.  Anyone know if New Mexico judges are elected?
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« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2013, 10:37:24 PM »
There's not a judge I've ever worked with who would authorize an invasive search on that crap.

Teehee.

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Re: Improper search
« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2013, 03:52:29 AM »
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this crap would cost you an election when it got out.
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Seriously !?!

No! Chris no...

Yea I know that wasn't intentional.

Anyway.
Here is hoping some legal sanction is handed down, I am not keeping my hopes up for it to be anything worth while. I hope he at least gets a huge payout from it.
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2013, 07:53:19 AM »
Here is hoping some legal sanction is handed down, I am not keeping my hopes up for it to be anything worth while. I hope he at least gets a huge payout from it.

Yep, that way the taxpayers get it where the sun doesn't shine. 

Oh, and I wonder just how much this would be trumpted from the rooftops by the MSM had the races of those involved had been reversed?
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Re: Improper search
« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2013, 11:02:31 AM »
Yep, that way the taxpayers get it where the sun doesn't shine.
As well they should, for voting in a bunch of <censored> who allow this stuff from their police force. Maybe, just maybe, some of the voters will see sharp increases in their taxes and learn that it DOES matter who they elect.
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