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« on: August 10, 2014, 04:19:12 PM »

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-ferguson-teen-struggled-over-officer-s-gun-before-being/article_f9d627dc-e3c8-5bde-b2ab-7f0a3d36a083.html?mobile_touch=true

So here's the big news from my area. The cops say he assaulted a cop, and tried to take his gun. The "community" says he was running away with both hands raised. I don't know who to believe, and don't really care to find out.

No word yet on the presence of Skittles, or of white Hispanics on the police force.

Or coffee cans.
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 04:28:10 PM »

Nuke the site from orbit  Huh?
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 04:54:59 PM »

This will get interesting.  Popcorn
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 04:56:57 PM »

The cop dog looks like somebodies about to be Alpo.
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 04:59:37 PM »

I just saw that a young and volatile crowd blocked paramedics and police in the area from responding to a heart attack (I can't confirm the accuracy of the report). They'll quickly lose any public sympathy if they keep that up.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 05:01:39 PM »

Paging Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton to the red racist phone, please.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 05:24:10 PM »

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-ferguson-teen-struggled-over-officer-s-gun-before-being/article_f9d627dc-e3c8-5bde-b2ab-7f0a3d36a083.html?mobile_touch=true

So here's the big news from my area. The cops say he assaulted a cop, and tried to take his gun. The "community" says he was running away with both hands raised. I don't know who to believe, and don't really care to find out.

No word yet on the presence of Skittles, or of white Hispanics on the police force.

Or coffee cans.

East St. Louis?

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2014, 05:26:30 PM »

Fistful you scared me there for a minute.

I thought by the title you meant that APS had made Drudge.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2014, 05:36:28 PM »

Paging Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton to the red racist phone, please.

Jesse Jackson is right behind him.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 05:59:53 PM »

At this point, it's 50/50 on who to believe.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 06:58:47 PM »

East St. Louis?


Ferguson, MO. A few miles northeast of me, I believe.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2014, 08:00:39 PM »

According to Twitchy, they're now shooting at police and also apparently shooting randomly (duck fistful!), and have stolen an ATM (hooray for justice!). At this rate, they're heading for Rodney King style rioting.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2014, 08:12:50 PM »

According to Twitchy, they're now shooting at police and also apparently shooting randomly (duck fistful!), and have stolen an ATM (hooray for justice!). At this rate, they're heading for Rodney King style rioting.

*expletive deleted*ing ghetto trash.

Lock it down, blockade the hoods, let 'em burn, and return fire with effective fire. Wait for the idiots to get tired of it. Nobody in or out.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2014, 08:16:42 PM »

*expletive deleted* ghetto trash.

Lock it down, blockade the hoods, let 'em burn, and return fire with effective fire. Wait for the idiots to get tired of it. Nobody in or out.



Apparently that's now started - destroying their own neighborhood and looting liquor stores, etc. for justice:

http://twitchy.com/2014/08/10/and-the-riots-have-started-protest-escalates-in-ferguson-mo-pics-vine-video/
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2014, 08:29:23 PM »

Little brother is about 15 miles from there. I'm sure he knows but I think I'll send an email to keep his head down for a few days.

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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2014, 03:13:01 AM »

Paging Al Sharpton, Al Sharpton to the red racist phone, please.


According to the Post-Disgrace, Mr. Sharpton is en route; and a certain Crump, one of the lawyers hired by Trayvon Martin's family, has been hired by the Browns. He's an interesting choice, given the outcome of that trial.  undecided
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 04:58:40 AM »


According to the Post-Disgrace, Mr. Sharpton is en route; and a certain Crump, one of the lawyers hired by Trayvon Martin's family, has been hired by the Browns. He's an interesting choice, given the outcome of that trial.  undecided

It was not because of any failing of the lawyer(s).  The jury was defective.

stay safe.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 05:07:24 AM »

*expletive deleted* ghetto trash.

Lock it down, blockade the hoods, let 'em burn, and return fire with effective fire. Wait for the idiots to get tired of it. Nobody in or out.

This ^^ in spades.  Even more than +infinity!

Having been sent three different times as the representative of a repressive, racist, oppressive government to quell the riot and restore peace I am here to tell you that playing that game without being allowed to shoot them is Mo FunTM.

And if you let them burn down their neighborhood, be sure that your fences are high and strong enough to keep them in there afterwards.  Give C-130 crews practice dropping "humanitarian aid", and wildfire fighter tanker crews weekly practice hitting the designated shower area.  Let's see how long it takes the 90%-98% of "good folks" to deal with the riff and the raff.

stay safe.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 06:03:04 AM »

. . .  Give AC-130 crews practice dropping "humanitarian aid" . . .
FIFY . . .  Evil
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 06:25:25 AM »

And if you let them burn down their neighborhood, be sure that your fences are high and strong enough to keep them in there afterwards.  Give C-130 crews practice dropping "humanitarian aid", and wildfire fighter tanker crews weekly practice hitting the designated shower area.  Let's see how long it takes the 90%-98% of "good folks" to deal with the riff and the raff.

Yup; double-fence, absolutely enforced kill zone between, and a checkpoint where people can choose to leave permanently, after full warrant check and a drug dog sniff.
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2014, 06:59:28 AM »

I'm sure that everything will work out well, just like in Iraqistan  smiley
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2014, 07:57:00 AM »

From the report, my emphasis added:

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In a news conference Sunday morning, Belmar, the county police chief, said the Ferguson officer had an encounter with two “individuals” about noon Saturday and that Brown pushed the officer back into his car and “assaulted” him in the vehicle.

Belmar said one shot was fired by the officer’s gun inside the car during the struggle, hitting no one, and that the officer then fired multiple times as Brown ran away. Brown fell dead in the street. Belmar said the crime scene covered a distance of just 35 feet.

Belmar did not describe the reason for the initial contact, nor indicate whether police think the shooting was justified. He also did not provide any details about the person who had been with Brown.

He said the shots that hit Brown were “more than just a couple but I don’t think it was many more than that.” He said an autopsy was pending.

Shooting somebody while they are running away is illegal for absolutely anyone else in the country.  Why should police be allowed to shoot a fleeing person?  Anyone else would be tried for second-degree murder, at the very least.

Rioting and looting is absolutely inappropriate and unjustifiable.  Understandable, but unjustifiable.  Shooting someone in the back, even if they have just attacked you, is also understandable, but unjustifiable. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2014, 08:20:56 AM »

Shooting a person fleeing after they commit a violent felony is allowable in some places IIRC.

I have no opinion on this particular case as I have no knowledge of the facts.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2014, 09:41:46 AM »

TN vs Garner I bleieve is the "cop shooting people in the back decision" and it held that the person has to ofer substantial danger if they get away. So capping Hannibal Lecter making an escape attempt is legit, shooting Lootie as he runs off with his 12 pack of Heineken is not.

Speaking of Lootie, I love this guy's shirt.

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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2014, 10:36:14 AM »

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