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Balog
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« on: September 30, 2014, 01:24:56 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/30/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Be interesting to see how it got here. The fact that it's in a border state is especially interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2014, 01:59:57 PM »

Minimal comfort in the fact it's not down the corridor from me, which I expected on opening the link.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2014, 02:09:35 PM »

Relevant.

http://wrair-www.army.mil/Documents/TropMed/Feb-2012/%2819%29%20Kortepeter_Hemorrhagic%20Fevers_February%202012.pdf
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2014, 02:10:57 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2014, 02:11:23 PM »

So what are you going to do? Seal the your house with duct tape and refuse to come out?

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2014, 02:17:01 PM »

So what are you going to do? Seal the your house with duct tape and refuse to come out?



 Face Palm!

I'm going to keep informed. If further steps are required later I'll take them. I thought about making smart ass comments to people on internet forums who were trying to be helpful and disseminate useful information, but I don't have that kind of time.

CDC is reporting the guy flew in from Liberia, reported symptoms on the 24th, was not hospitalized until the 28th. 4 days of being infectious out in the wild, be interesting to see how much it spread from that.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2014, 02:20:49 PM »

http://www.uptodate.com/contents/epidemiology-pathogenesis-and-clinical-manifestations-of-ebola-and-marburg-virus-disease
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2014, 02:24:23 PM »

I'm waiting for something like this to pop up in India or China.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2014, 02:31:56 PM »

I'm waiting for something like this to pop up in India or China.

That will be a game changer


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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2014, 02:38:19 PM »

That will be a game changer


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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2014, 02:52:07 PM »

I'm waiting for something like this to pop up in India or China.

Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan/similar would be much worse than China or India. China and India have a lot of modern hospitals and plenty of doctors.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2014, 02:58:11 PM »

Face Palm!

I'm going to keep informed. If further steps are required later I'll take them. I thought about making smart ass comments to people on internet forums who were trying to be helpful and disseminate useful information, but I don't have that kind of time.

CDC is reporting the guy flew in from Liberia, reported symptoms on the 24th, was not hospitalized until the 28th. 4 days of being infectious out in the wild, be interesting to see how much it spread from that.

So if Ebola is found in one person in your current city and your boss is requiring you to go to work or lose you job, what will you do?
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2014, 03:29:41 PM »

So if Ebola is found in one person in your current city and your boss is requiring you to go to work or lose you job, what will you do?


Troll people on APS with ridiculous hypotheticals? Or would that be taking over your territory?
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 03:40:40 PM »

Troll people on APS with ridiculous hypotheticals? Or would that be taking over your territory?

If I am a troll then you are Chicken Little.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 03:50:32 PM »

Meh. There have been 450 cases of various hemorrhagic fevers in the us in the last 25 years and the mortality rate here is always much less than elsewhere. Not sweating it yet.


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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2014, 03:51:38 PM »

So if Ebola is found in one person in your current city and your boss is requiring you to go to work or lose you job, what will you do?


I'll take "More information, please" for a thousand, Alex.

It's like the fact that there are several vials of different strains of smallpox floating around out there and one of the likely corridors of transport in down the middle of where I live.  But without additional information I just don't know whether to be scared out of my wits, check to see if my last inoculation is still any good, or go get a seat and watch the chaos-monkeys.

While you are scrounging up more information would you please tell me if you have stopped beating your wife.

stay safe.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2014, 03:55:23 PM »

I'll take "More information, please" for a thousand, Alex.

It's like the fact that there are several vials of different strains of smallpox floating around out there and one of the likely corridors of transport in down the middle of where I live.  But without additional information I just don't know whether to be scared out of my wits, check to see if my last inoculation is still any good, or go get a seat and watch the chaos-monkeys.

While you are scrounging up more information would you please tell me if you have stopped beating your wife.

stay safe.

We got West Nile and Chikungunya reported where I live, hasn't slowed life down yet.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2014, 03:58:59 PM »

West Nile out here too. The world still turns.
There is a lot of money to be made with fear, and political goals


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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2014, 04:02:45 PM »

If I am a troll then you are Chicken Little.


Your posts in this thread are definitely trolling.

This is something that has the potential to become a problem. I am posting information about it. ZOMG CHICKEN LITTLE!!!

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2014, 04:06:16 PM »

Your posts in this thread are definitely trolling.

This is something that has the potential to become a problem. I am posting information about it. ZOMG CHICKEN LITTLE!!!

 rolleyes

How can Ebola become a problem in the US? US is not third world Africa.
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2014, 04:14:21 PM »

How can Ebola become a problem in the US? US is not third world Africa.

It seems we are going to see how well your hypothesis holds up.

Allowing folks from countries experiencing Ebola epidemics to fly into major population centers and potentially infect US citizens?

Sounds like a problem to me; even if only one person is infected and dies stateside from exposure to this guy, it's a problem.



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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2014, 04:15:27 PM »

I am reminded of the folks trying to hang the recent enterovirus outbreak on the "brown hordes" . When in fact it was identified in the 60's in California


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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2014, 04:20:02 PM »

It seems we are going to see how well your hypothesis holds up.

Allowing folks from countries experiencing Ebola epidemics to fly into major population centers and potentially infect US citizens?

Sounds like a problem to me; even if only one person is infected and dies stateside from exposure to this guy, it's a problem.





Influenza kills thousands of Americans each year, so lets close our borders and end all international travel into the US.
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2014, 04:22:06 PM »

I am reminded of the folks trying to hang the recent enterovirus outbreak on the "brown hordes" . When in fact it was identified in the 60's in California


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Yea, my concern of pandemic has nothing to do with the best way of dealing with ebola (isolation/quarantine) and is a manifestation of my latent racism  Face Palm!

Who cares if a few (or many?) people die an unimaginable death as long as its in the name of fairness, diversity, inclusion and multiculturalism right?



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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2014, 04:23:29 PM »

Influenza kills thousands of Americans each year, so lets close our borders and end all international travel into the US.

Why don't we send your wife to the airport to be the personal greeter for flights coming from pandemic stricken countries?

Ebola is not the flu, don't act the fool.
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