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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #175 on: February 27, 2015, 12:18:43 PM »
And what is that funding?  Do you support the increase?

Road fund. I do support it because our fuel taxes go right back into road construction/improvements. Because vehicles are more fuel efficient then they were with the last increase in 1989, money was really starting to shrink and our roads/bridges are getting really bad in a lot of rural areas. Also it is a consumptive tax, you only pay it if you purchase road fuels.

I wish they would have made it a graduated tax: .03 this year, .04 next year and .03 in year 3.

I'm glad they didn't raise vehicle taxes/registration instead.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #176 on: February 27, 2015, 05:36:54 PM »
Up 32 cents here in the last four weeks, a dime just last weekend.  This is not a blip, it's on the way back up.  Anybody else but me want to predict four bucks a gallon by the end of the third quarter?
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #177 on: February 27, 2015, 07:38:36 PM »
Road fund. I do support it because our fuel taxes go right back into road construction/improvements. Because vehicles are more fuel efficient then they were with the last increase in 1989, money was really starting to shrink and our roads/bridges are getting really bad in a lot of rural areas. Also it is a consumptive tax, you only pay it if you purchase road fuels.

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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #178 on: May 09, 2015, 10:41:24 PM »
So for the first time since I've owned my diesel, fuel is 50 cents/gal cheaper than regular gas around these parts. Right around $2.90-$3.00/gal.
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« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2015, 01:32:40 AM »
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2015, 05:51:18 AM »
$3.55-$3.79 for 87 octane out here in on my way to work tonight. It'll probably be higher on my way home this morning.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #181 on: May 10, 2015, 11:04:16 AM »
Up 32 cents here in the last four weeks, a dime just last weekend.  This is not a blip, it's on the way back up.  Anybody else but me want to predict four bucks a gallon by the end of the third quarter?

Part of the jump has been the expected seasonal jump in price caused by the change over from winter to summer blend gasolines.

The price of crude oil is still the primary driver for the cost of gasoline and other distillates, and the price of crude isn't going up all that quickly right now.

We're still experiencing a significant oversupply of crude (US stores are at or near record levels).

Unrest in Yemen is playing on the price of crude, and the Saudis appear to be winning somewhat in their game of brinksmanship with the shale producers in the US and Canada.

Another factor driving prices right now are speculators who are anticipating the biggest driving season in nearly a decade in the US, which means burning a LOT more gasoline.

Then there's the fact that hedge funds and speculators took an absolute reaming over the past year, and now they're trying to get back into the markets low to hopefully recoup some of their losses.

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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #182 on: May 10, 2015, 11:45:32 AM »
$ 2.89 at the local Costco, around $ 2.93-2.95 at the other local gas stations 25 miles north of Seattle.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #183 on: May 10, 2015, 12:53:12 PM »
$3.55-$3.79 for 87 octane out here in on my way to work tonight. It'll probably be higher on my way home this morning.

I think among all the regular stuff, we're being hit because of the stupid CA special blend thing and a few current refinery problems. I'm pretty sure that's why my diesel is only relatively lower when compared to CA gasoline.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #184 on: May 10, 2015, 01:26:49 PM »
There are various plans afoot to increase our fuel tax here in SC for "roads improvement". Across the board I do not support them because the SC DOT is a financial black hole...money goes into it and is never seen again.

But anybody against increasing the taxes is labeled as against improved/safer roads. "For the roads! Why do you hate better roads?" is the equivalent of "For the children!"

 I am not against improving the roads, I am very much against pointless increases of taxes that pour yet more money into a broken state government where it will be used for anything BUT it's stated purpose. How about they take the money we already give them and use it to do their *expletive deleted*ing jobs and improve the roads...show me THAT happening and then maybe, just maybe, we can talk about an increase in taxes to fund it.















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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #185 on: May 10, 2015, 01:39:14 PM »
There are various plans afoot to increase our fuel tax here in SC for "roads improvement". Across the board I do not support them because the SC DOT is a financial black hole...money goes into it and is never seen again.

But anybody against increasing the taxes is labeled as against improved/safer roads. "For the roads! Why do you hate better roads?" is the equivalent of "For the children!"

 I am not against improving the roads, I am very much against pointless increases of taxes that pour yet more money into a broken state government where it will be used for anything BUT it's stated purpose. How about they take the money we already give them and use it to do their *expletive deleted*ing jobs and improve the roads...show me THAT happening and then maybe, just maybe, we can talk about an increase in taxes to fund it.



It's a problem from the local to the Federal level. I think most people would not have much of a problem with the taxes if they all went to road infrastructure. The fact that on the Federal level, they can't account for nearly 50% of the tax revenue does not make we want to jump on the "raise the tax to improve roads" bandwagon. First show me what you can do with 100% of the current tax being devoted to infrastructure, then we can talk.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #186 on: May 10, 2015, 02:05:06 PM »
There are various plans afoot to increase our fuel tax here in SC for "roads improvement". Across the board I do not support them because the SC DOT is a financial black hole...money goes into it and is never seen again.

But anybody against increasing the taxes is labeled as against improved/safer roads. "For the roads! Why do you hate better roads?" is the equivalent of "For the children!"

 I am not against improving the roads, I am very much against pointless increases of taxes that pour yet more money into a broken state government where it will be used for anything BUT it's stated purpose. How about they take the money we already give them and use it to do their *expletive deleted*ing jobs and improve the roads...show me THAT happening and then maybe, just maybe, we can talk about an increase in taxes to fund it.


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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #187 on: May 10, 2015, 10:35:54 PM »
That's why I vote against every school tax increase.  I don't care how much they need the money; they are wasting the all money that they have (mostly on superfluous highly-paid do-nothing administrators and their staffs.)

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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #188 on: May 11, 2015, 06:33:06 AM »
$2.33 or so here in Tulsa.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #189 on: May 11, 2015, 07:51:50 AM »
$2.33 or so here in Tulsa.

Must be nice, $2.59 here for 10% ethanol 87 octane.
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« Reply #190 on: May 11, 2015, 09:33:17 AM »
So here is my gripe...why are there so many summer blends?  Why can't we have a winter blend and a summer blend that is consistent across the entire US?
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #191 on: May 11, 2015, 09:35:03 AM »
Probably a lot to do with seasonal air quality and EPA requirements.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #192 on: May 11, 2015, 09:49:23 AM »
Probably a lot to do with seasonal air quality and EPA requirements.

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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #193 on: May 11, 2015, 10:10:53 AM »
So here is my gripe...why are there so many summer blends?  Why can't we have a winter blend and a summer blend that is consistent across the entire US?

Probably a lot to do with seasonal air quality and EPA requirements.

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I have asked the same question myself.  My point is why can't all gas be refined to the cleanest level required?  Oh I know, that makes too much sense. :facepalm:
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« Reply #194 on: May 11, 2015, 10:38:59 AM »
"I have asked the same question myself.  My point is why can't all gas be refined to the cleanest level required?  Oh I know, that makes too much sense."

"cleanest" has nothing to do with it. Its creating blends that supposedly address specific air quality issues in those regions.

The air quality issues affecting LA are different from those affecting DC or Albuquerque.

One size doesn't fit all.
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« Reply #195 on: May 11, 2015, 08:35:17 PM »
Honest question:  Have any of these different seasonal blends ever improved air quality enough to justify the costs of their implementation wherever they have been tried?
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« Reply #196 on: May 11, 2015, 08:43:24 PM »
Honest question:  Have any of these different seasonal blends ever improved air quality enough to justify the costs of their implementation wherever they have been tried?
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #197 on: May 12, 2015, 07:07:02 AM »
Honest question:  Have any of these different seasonal blends ever improved air quality enough to justify the costs of their implementation wherever they have been tried?

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As with everything, the jury is out, but when I first moved to DC in 1990 it wasn't uncommon for us to have a significant number of air quality alert days, sometimes as many as 20-30 a summer.

I remember more than once seeing a brown smog haze over DC.

Don't see that anymore.

Here's an article that talks about it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/05/30/code-orange-air-quality-alert-for-d-c-area-first-of-2013/


And here's an article from 2014: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/10/03/d-c-air-quality-just-keeps-getting-better-zero-code-red-days-in-2014/

2014 was extra special in DC because it was one of the mildest summers in decades.


Winter air quality has also gotten better with the introduction of oxygenated fuels.
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Re: So what's everone paying for gasoline?
« Reply #198 on: May 12, 2015, 11:12:56 AM »
As with everything, the jury is out, but when I first moved to DC in 1990 it wasn't uncommon for us to have a significant number of air quality alert days, sometimes as many as 20-30 a summer.

I suspect this has more to do with catalytic converters removing NOx.  Very few cars on the road without that tech now vs the early 90's.

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« Reply #199 on: May 12, 2015, 12:06:51 PM »
I suspect this has more to do with catalytic converters removing NOx.  Very few cars on the road without that tech now vs the early 90's.

That would be my guess also but now I wanna really know if it can be proven one way or the other


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