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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #150 on: May 21, 2015, 10:12:14 AM »
Apparently she never read the Supreme Court decision re fleeing in a high crime area. Or perhaps she's realizes fir her purposes , and hubby's , that doesn't matter


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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #151 on: May 21, 2015, 10:14:02 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 21, 2015, 10:12:14 AM
Apparently she never read the Supreme Court decision re fleeing in a high crime area. Or perhaps she's realizes fir her purposes , and hubby's , that doesn't matter


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Considering she also hadn't read Baltimore's local laws on knives, that's not a stretch to believe.
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #152 on: May 21, 2015, 02:55:43 PM »
Quote from: makattak on May 21, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
http://www.wbal.com/article/115153/2/mosby-responds-to-defense-motions-in-freddie-gray-case

After seeking as much press as possible, the prosecutor wants the judge to gag the defense.

Also, the knife being illegal doesn't matter because they arrested him before finding the knife, she says.

That's an interesting theory; also almost impossible to prove.  At what point did the detention (lawful) become an arrest (perhaps not lawful), and when exactly was the knife found?
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #153 on: May 21, 2015, 05:26:20 PM »
The grand jury has a different take. All officers indicted.

http://www.wfsb.com/story/29127927/2015/05/21/officers-indicted-in-freddie-gray-death
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« Reply #154 on: May 21, 2015, 06:47:44 PM »
Zimmerman was indicted too. Long way from conviction.
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #155 on: May 21, 2015, 08:47:49 PM »
Eh, they'll probably get some convictions, just not the ones they really want.
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #156 on: May 21, 2015, 09:24:36 PM »
I think their biggest obstacle is gonna be nailing a specific cop for a specific action. Everyone can point at someone else


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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #157 on: May 21, 2015, 09:50:35 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 21, 2015, 09:24:36 PM
I think their biggest obstacle is gonna be nailing a specific cop for a specific action. Everyone can point at someone else


You're probably right.  And yet it's pretty obvious that collectively they murdered him.  :mad:  (I know he was a lowlife, but the cops don't get to be self-appointed executioners)
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #158 on: May 21, 2015, 10:01:33 PM »
He obviously didn't die of natural causes.

There needs to be very clear answers on how a man in police custody dies of a broken spine.

What he was arrested for past or present has little bearing on the question, how did he end up dead?
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #159 on: May 21, 2015, 10:05:25 PM »
Who was the arresting officer?  Isn't that the responsible party until they find out who actually broke his neck? 
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #160 on: May 22, 2015, 05:44:32 AM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on May 21, 2015, 10:05:25 PM
Who was the arresting officer?  Isn't that the responsible party until they find out who actually broke his neck? 

It's like a chain of custody, but without the documentation.  As he gets handed from the lead arresting officer (there was more than one but unlike fighter pilots they do not split arrests) to the transport officer to the <insert magical functionary here> to the intake officer to the jailer each one assumes responsibility for his care and custody.

One of the reasons corrections officers make inmates they are picking up from a local jail is t document the physical condition - nicks, bruises, cuts, contusions, broken necks and the like.  Jailer signs off, admitting the "inventory" was correct.  Then they'd do it over again when the inmate arrived at the prison reception center.  I've heard cops state that they don't have the time to go through all that.  Maybe after a certain number of cops who lost their qualified immunity get both locked up and sued the rest will start thinking they might take the time.

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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #161 on: May 22, 2015, 09:34:18 AM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on May 21, 2015, 09:50:35 PM
You're probably right.  And yet it's pretty obvious that collectively they murdered him.  :mad:  (I know he was a lowlife, but the cops don't get to be self-appointed executioners)
It's not obvious at all.  We don't have any idea what happened to Gray.  We know the cause of death, but not who did it, or how, or when, or why, or where, or with what.  

Without any evidence it's just a glorified lynch mob.  Maybe the prosecutor has some of this missing evidence and isn't making it public.  That's possible, but I doubt it given her fubar with the knife laws.
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Re: Freddy Gray, the fellow that they are destroying Baltimore for: His Rap Sheet
« Reply #162 on: May 22, 2015, 09:39:46 AM »
Quote from: Ron on May 21, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
He obviously didn't die of natural causes.

A broken spine is a very natural way to die.  Probably even induced by organic methods.  Maybe even gluten free ones.
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