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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2016, 03:15:21 PM »
Wife and I just started watching season 1 last night.  It's going to take a while to get thru this one; I can't binge watch anything anyway (don't like watching TV that long), and she can only handle one episode at a time.

One thing that bothers me about shows like this is how easily I think I could kill people in that situation (targets of opportunity with an icepick or knife or poison rather than a gun or explosives.)  Stab the Obergruppenführer while passing on the sidewalk, abandon the knife and keep walking.  Wife says I would be very useful in the Resistance.

Biggest flaws I've noticed in the show so far are anachronisms: the prevalence of color TV (both receivers and broadcasts), and people using "*expletive deleted*ing" as an all-purpose adjective/adverb.  But can you really have anachronisms in an alternate reality?  ;/

ETA: I'm up to episode 5, but Wife has binge-watched the entire first season :laugh:
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2017, 10:52:40 PM »
Just finished Season 2. Excellent. There had better be a season 3 though! :)
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2017, 12:05:00 AM »
This show is one reason I don't need cable or satellite.  Good stuff.

On season two, episode two.

Was saying to myself late in season one, "You know your world is in a hell of a place when Adolf Hitler is the more reasonable alternative." 

Then I remembered that in (real-life) WWII AH _was_ the more reasonable mass-murdering totalitarian dictator and we backed the only dictator on the planet worse than AH (Go USA!)  And that what is portrayed in TMITHC is something like what the folks behind the Iron Curtain dealt with.  TMITHC: our alternate history.  Iron Curtain: E Europe's reality.

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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2017, 12:07:51 AM »
This show is one reason I don't need cable or satellite.  Good stuff.

On season two, episode two.

Was saying to myself late in season one, "You know your world is in a hell of a place when Adolf Hitler is the more reasonable alternative." 

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That's where I am.  Fixin' to go watch S2 E3 right now...
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2017, 06:52:09 AM »
Finished up season 2. Wow


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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2018, 04:33:22 PM »
Just finished Season 2. Excellent. There had better be a season 3 though! :)

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Season 3 starts October 5th.  Trailer is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xunwv3rRWYo

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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2018, 04:36:21 PM »
I finally started watching The Expanse.  Amazon sucks you in with free season 1 and 2, then charges you to watch season 3.  Great series.  I keep wanting to stay up entirely too late to watch one more episode. 
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2018, 04:53:09 PM »
The thread necromancer strikes again.

Season 3 starts October 5th.  Trailer is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xunwv3rRWYo



It's about freakin' time! I'm getting sick to death of these practically two year gaps between seasons on some of these shows that I really like.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2018, 05:05:20 PM »
It's about freakin' time! I'm getting sick to death of these practically two year gaps between seasons on some of these shows that I really like.

My pet peeve is the mid-season "breaks" that they like to do nowadays.  Just show the whole damn season already.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2018, 05:16:28 PM »
My pet peeve is the mid-season "breaks" that they like to do nowadays.  Just show the whole damn season already.


Yes, that too. I don't understand either thing. Maybe the core audience likes that and we're just old? Or maybe it's marketing that gets people to buy the previous seasons to catch up and remember what the hell is going on?

All it does for me is make me want to mark my calendar for JAN2022 with, "Check on these shows from three years ago and now maybe you can watch them all at once."
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2018, 05:20:31 PM »
Is this included in amazon prime?


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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2018, 07:41:23 PM »
Is this included in amazon prime?

Seasons 1 and 2 are included.  I believe Season 3 is as well, but I'm not 100% certain.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2019, 10:57:47 PM »
As you all probably know, the fourth and final season of 'The Man in the High Castle' is now out on Amazon Prime.  A fitting end to the show and well worth your time.  Ten episodes of approximately one hour each.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2019, 11:30:52 AM »
Never saw the show, but the Man in the High Castle books is horrid.  Please don't read.

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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2019, 09:57:47 PM »
Sadly, I have to give a thumbs down.

The first two seasons were phenomenal. Then (coincidentally after Trump was elected), the dumbass, political pushing, SJW writers that Amazon and Netflix hire went full throttle.

Season three was a gayfest for no other reason than to suddenly throw a bunch of gay characters and their lovemaking in. They made no sense to the rest of the plot, and in fact significantly went off the rails from the plot that was building through seasons one and two.

Season four. The Black Communist Resistance. Communism is the wave of the future for the US. That American flag is an evil relic. The Founding Fathers made a promise they didn't keep, but the commies will fix that and give everyone a happy life. Hurray for reparations! Clearly the millennial SJW writers have no idea how many more people died under communism than national socialism. In fact the western states would have been better off remaining under the barbaric rule of Japan. And that ending scene? It made no sense.  I even went all over the Internet looking in case I missed something, but no, it made no sense.

This is like the sixth show between Amazon and Netflix that I loved in the beginning, but then got destroyed in its last seasons (again, coincidentally over the last two years) with the commie pinko SJW political stuff.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2019, 10:11:55 PM »
Sadly, I have to give a thumbs down.

The first two seasons were phenomenal. Then (coincidentally after Trump was elected), the dumbass, political pushing, SJW writers that Amazon and Netflix hire went full throttle.

Season three was a gayfest for no other reason than to suddenly throw a bunch of gay characters and their lovemaking in. They made no sense to the rest of the plot, and in fact significantly went off the rails from the plot that was building through seasons one and two.

Season four. The Black Communist Resistance. Communism is the wave of the future for the US. That American flag is an evil relic. The Founding Fathers made a promise they didn't keep, but the commies will fix that and give everyone a happy life. Hurray for reparations! Clearly the millennial SJW writers have no idea how many more people died under communism than national socialism. In fact the western states would have been better off remaining under the barbaric rule of Japan. And that ending scene? It made no sense.  I even went all over the Internet looking in case I missed something, but no, it made no sense.

This is like the sixth show between Amazon and Netflix that I loved in the beginning, but then got destroyed in its last seasons (again, coincidentally over the last two years) with the commie pinko SJW political stuff.

Prediction: the Mandalorian will similarly disappoint. Starting with season 3 after Trump is re-elected. (Season 2 will be filmed while they still think Warren or Buttijudge is going to defeat him, but season 3 will be full on RESISTANCE!!! from the insane Hollywood writers.)
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2019, 10:16:36 AM »
EXTREME SPOILERS

I agree the FIRST season was the best because they were being serious about portraying the social and political environment on both coasts, including excellent mashup architecture, music, and fashion. But after that, they got lazy and tried to carry it with plot, but it became a strange drama McGuffin-chase and basically it became plot-driven but it was a really confusing and not so interesting plot in the middle. For the last season, I was happy they simplified the plot, didn't add many shenanigans, and just made it about obtaining closure for the top few best characters.

I'm usually sensitive to gay propaganda, but I don't remember it. Sure there were a couple of characters, but it served the plot to show how they are persecuted. I mean it's san Francisco after all, do you think all the gay people would just disappear?
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2019, 11:22:28 AM »

I'm usually sensitive to gay propaganda, but I don't remember it. Sure there were a couple of characters, but it served the plot to show how they are persecuted. I mean it's san Francisco after all, do you think all the gay people would just disappear?

Colorado and NY too. Colorado seemed especially off plot to me. I could understand the underground club in NYC - it was Babylon Berlinish.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2019, 11:50:12 AM »
Persecuting gays is what Trump does in the SJW world and since Trump is a Nazi in the SJW world.........
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2019, 12:46:32 PM »
Colorado and NY too. Colorado seemed especially off plot to me.

Colorado was a nexus in The Neutral Zone. So of course there was a concentration of Undesirables there. Including if you remember,  blacks, Muslims, the albino shoe-shine kid, etc. Of course it would not resemble the real-world Colorado.

I actually didn't find the BCR overly preachy, if anything it was un-realistic in it's ideology. In a world where blacks went straight from Jim Crow to concentration camps, I would expect such a movement to arise, and desiring an ethno-state would also be realistic. And aligning with communism is also realistic in a world that never saw the Soviet Union yet (it parallels HoChiMinh actually, who actually admired America quite a lot, including Thomas Jefferson and French revolutionary thinking; he just thought communism was a next step forward which is more understandable in a world that never saw late-stage communism, such a MitHC). The BCR were portrayed as wishing to right the injustices of the past with more egalitarianism. In reality, I think it's more likely that such a movement would be more exclusionary and closer to the Black Panthers.

Overall I think the portrayal of the Nazis was probably over done. They really would have taken over Europe if they had the bomb. They would have wanted to take over US, but unless they had nuclear subs, I don't think the US would have folded so quickly because it still takes reach to field nukes. It's more likely that Nazis would have taken over Europe there would have been a nuclear standoff between US and Nazis decades later once cruise missiles and nuclear subs came around.

Also if the Nazis did take over US it would have refined its propoganda. The Master Race thing just wouldn't have worked in the US. We are led to think that they exterminated all Jews and blacks in the US and I think that's highly unrealistic. It's much more likely they would have done something like the segregated South.

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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2019, 12:58:43 PM »
Colorado was a nexus in The Neutral Zone. So of course there was a concentration of Undesirables there. Including if you remember,  blacks, Muslims, the albino shoe-shine kid, etc. Of course it would not resemble the real-world Colorado.

Sorry, I was unclear. I didn't mean Colorado in general, but whtshisname when he got to Colorado. No indications of him being gay earlier in SF, almost the opposite. Then all of a sudden he decides he wants to be some cowboy's horse when he gets to Denver. Just seemed contrived with no real tie-in to the seasons 1-2 plot.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2019, 01:02:03 PM »
Sorry, I was unclear. I didn't mean Colorado in general, but whtshisname when he got to Colorado. No indications of him being gay earlier in SF, almost the opposite. Then all of a sudden he decides he wants to be some cowboy's horse when he gets to Denver. Just seemed contrived with no real tie-in to the seasons 1-2 plot.

Granted. I forgot that part.
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2019, 01:08:57 PM »


Overall I think the portrayal of the Nazis was probably over done. They really would have taken over Europe if they had the bomb. They would have wanted to take over US, but unless they had nuclear subs, I don't think the US would have folded so quickly because it still takes reach to field nukes. It's more likely that Nazis would have taken over Europe there would have been a nuclear standoff between US and Nazis decades later once cruise missiles and nuclear subs came around.


That would be pretty close to the world in Fatherland where the cold war was between the US and Germany

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_(1994_film)
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Re: Two thumbs up for 'The Man in the High Castle'
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2019, 01:13:41 PM »

I actually didn't find the BCR overly preachy, if anything it was un-realistic in it's ideology. In a world where blacks went straight from Jim Crow to concentration camps, I would expect such a movement to arise, and desiring an ethno-state would also be realistic. And aligning with communism is also realistic in a world that never saw the Soviet Union yet (it parallels HoChiMinh actually, who actually admired America quite a lot, including Thomas Jefferson and French revolutionary thinking; he just thought communism was a next step forward which is more understandable in a world that never saw late-stage communism, such a MitHC).

Okay, yeah, I wasn't thinking about no USSR (which also, interestingly, I don't recall any mention of Russia at all, though I haven't watched the early seasons since they came out, so may be forgetting).

I did read while looking up the ending that it was the intent to make the BCR into a black panther analog. I just got a little torqued over the flag and "promises not kept" thing because they'd both been in the news prior to the release of season 4, so it seemed like pandering to the SJWs.
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